WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.600 Well, Jeff, today we're talking about Paul's joy at the 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:03.799 church's repentance. 3 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.000 Yes, this is a big challenge to us, and I 4 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:08.519 think maybe if we can learn to apply it, our 5 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:11.080 lives would be so much better for sure. So he's 6 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:12.880 Chris and I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible guys. 7 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:27.160 All right, Jeff, So we have another segment today and 8 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.079 it is dad jokes. So you and I both have 9 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.600 not looked at this, and so we just decided that 10 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:34.840 I'm going to just read them to you. 11 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.200 Just read them, right, this is brand new to us. 12 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:39.920 Yeah, So we're just gonna read them and hopefully, by 13 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:42.479 the way, people hear these and they use them in 14 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:44.359 some sort of setting and they think of us. 15 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:47.200 Which, by the way, we're kind of dad joke aficionados. 16 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:50.880 Oh yeah, sure, yeah, I text dad jokes to you sometimes. 17 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.880 Yes, you do. All right, here we go. There's five 18 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:59.200 of these. Excuse me. Number one, who was considered as 19 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:00.320 the smartest man in the. 20 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.880 Bible, Oh Solomon? 21 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:06.719 No, Abraham because he knew a lot. 22 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.159 Oh no, okay, there's a Sunday School joke for you. 23 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.560 A lot was Abraham's nephew. Yes, yes, he knew a lot. 24 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:20.560 Yeah, that's funny, right, Okay, it was really bad, really bad. 25 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:23.400 It was a churchy one. These are all churchy? Actually, 26 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:27.840 how come they didn't play cards on the arc? 27 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:29.159 Oh? 28 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:31.840 I don't know, because Noah was standing on the deck. 29 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.519 Oh great, No, I'm not even gonna laugh. 30 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:36.480 At These are bad. 31 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:37.400 These are terrible. 32 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:41.280 Where's the where is the Bible? Where in the Bible 33 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:43.879 is the first mention of a tennis match? 34 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:45.359 Oh? 35 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.799 I don't know when Joseph served in Pharaoh's court? 36 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:51.680 Oh no, these are really bad. 37 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:56.680 These are okay, okay, okay, okay. Noah most likely got 38 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.959 milk from the cows on the arc. What did he 39 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:01.120 get from the ducks? 40 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:11.960 I don't know. It's so stupid, So he got dumb 41 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:12.719 I don't know. 42 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:13.960 Quackers? 43 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:16.120 Oh no, these are terrible. 44 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.599 Yeah, these are these are whoever chose these? 45 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:21.159 Goodness? Okay, here we go, all right, we're gonna blame. 46 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.199 We're gonna blame Kyle or Deserte, Yes for sure. Okay, 47 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:27.360 number five, that was quacker. 48 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:30.479 It's so bad. Okay, how about this one. How do 49 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.520 we know Peter was a rich fisherman? A rich fisherman, 50 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:36.680 I don't know by his net income? 51 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:41.000 Oh no, yeah, these are really bad. 52 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:42.240 Yeah. 53 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.520 I think all of his income was net income, wasn't it. 54 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.560 Yeah? I think so. Yeah. I don't think he did 55 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:50.000 anything besides Casta's nets or mend his nets. 56 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:50.520 There you go. 57 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:57.800 Yeah, well I'm glad. I'm glad that's over those over Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay, So, 58 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.879 if you grew up in day school or if you 59 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.719 grew up in church, and you know, maybe you liked him. 60 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:04.120 I don't know. 61 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.080 Do you remember do you remember the one who's the 62 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:11.319 smallest person in the Bible, No, Peter because he fell 63 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:12.199 asleep on his watch? 64 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:13.719 Oh wow? 65 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:14.919 Do you ever see that one? 66 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:20.360 No? That was pretty bad too. 67 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:22.520 So many bad puns and jokes like that. Okay, anyways, 68 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:24.280 we need to move on from that one. 69 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:25.919 Yes, that was we need to recover. 70 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.159 That was rough. Well, we're going to read the rest 71 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:33.800 of chapter seven, and here Paul is just expressing his 72 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:38.039 joy at the fact that the church repented. Yes, but 73 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:41.919 I want to say, do you remember we're reading along 74 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:45.680 in chapter two of this book, tewod Corinthians and he goes, 75 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:47.840 and I really wanted to go come and visit you, 76 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:49.520 but I had to go to Macedonia, remember right? 77 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:49.759 Yeah? 78 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:55.599 Then the last five chapters was him chasing rabbits other things. 79 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:00.520 And now verse five is so anyway, right, and now 80 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.199 he's back to talking about Macedonia. 81 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.719 Well, it's the Middle Eastern way of talking about things. Yeah. 82 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:09.400 So in other words, we generally when we communicate, we 83 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:11.759 do it linear, right, we go from point A to 84 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.240 point b. But in the Middle East, and even today, 85 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.439 people sort of talk around the subject. So they'll sort 86 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:21.160 of talk all around it. And so Paul in this letter, 87 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.040 keeping in mind that Corinthians wasn't chapters and verses, it 88 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.399 was a letter, and so yeah, for him, it was 89 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:29.519 just a few paragraphs ago, right, right, But for. 90 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:32.240 Us it's like four pages, five pages, right, And then 91 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:36.199 he goes, so anyway, verse five. When we arrived in Macedonia, 92 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:38.759 there was no rest for us. We faced conflict from 93 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:41.439 every direction, with battles on the outside and fear on 94 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:45.000 the inside. But God, who encourages those who are discouraged, 95 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.639 encouraged us by the arrival of Titus. His presence was 96 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:50.120 a joy, But so was the news he brought of 97 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.759 the encouragement he received from you. When he told us 98 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:54.800 how much you longed to see me, and how sorry 99 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:56.959 you are for what happened, and how loyal you are 100 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.240 to me. I was filled with joy. I'm not sorry 101 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:01.120 that I sent that of your letter to you, though 102 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.040 I was sorry at first, for I know it was 103 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:05.639 painful to you for a little while. Now I'm glad 104 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:07.959 I sent it, not because it hurt you, but because 105 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:10.079 the pain caused you to repent and change your ways. 106 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:12.360 It was the kind of sorrow that God wants his 107 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:14.879 people to have. So you're not harmed by us in 108 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.319 any way. For the kind of sorrow God wants us 109 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.399 to experience leads us away from sin and results in salvation. 110 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.879 There's no regret for that kind of sorrow, But worldly sorrow, 111 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.439 which lacks repentance, results in spiritual death. Just see what 112 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:31.160 this godly sorrow produced in you. Such earnestness, such concern 113 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:35.240 to clear yourselves, such indignation, such alarm, such longing to 114 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:38.319 see me, such zeal, and such readiness to punish wrong. 115 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.480 You showed that you have done everything necessary to make 116 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:45.199 things right. My purpose then was to write about who 117 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.480 did My purpose then was not to write about who 118 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.040 did the wrong or who was wronged. I wrote to 119 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:52.560 you so that in the sight of God you can 120 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.120 see for yourselves, how loyal you are to us. We 121 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:58.240 have been greatly encouraged by this. In addition to our 122 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.519 own encouragement, we were actually delighted to see how happy 123 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.040 Titus was about the way all of you welcomed him 124 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.319 and set his mind to ease. I had told him 125 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.199 how proud I was of you, and you didn't disappoint me. 126 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:11.839 I've always told you the truth, and now my boasting 127 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:14.240 the Titus has also proved true. Now he cares for 128 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:16.439 you more than ever when he remembers the way all 129 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.920 of you obeyed him and welcomed him with such fear 130 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.319 and deep respect. I'm very happy now because I have 131 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:28.040 complete confidence in you. So he's saying, you know, hey, 132 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:30.000 I didn't come down to you. I did wind up 133 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.439 having to go on to Macedonia. But Titus came, and 134 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.720 he came and encouraged me while we were discouraged. And 135 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:36.800 I think that that's interesting. He said, you know, we 136 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.600 had battles on the outside and fear on the inside. 137 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.800 So we've talked a lot about his courage, and we've 138 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:47.000 talked a lot about his struggles and his physical confrontations. 139 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.560 He was, you know, stoned with stones and he was 140 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:53.319 you know, shipwrecked, and he was beaten for his faith 141 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.959 and arrested and imprisoned and all those things, and it 142 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.319 seems like he's a superhero when we talk about it 143 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:01.720 from that perspective, and he says, you know, we had 144 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:04.279 battles on the out side and we were terrified on 145 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:04.800 the inside. 146 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:08.759 Yeah. Well, people, you know that we need never to 147 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:12.319 forget that courage is not the lack of fear. Courage 148 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:14.279 is being fearful and going. 149 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.319 Through with it anyway, doing the right thing anyways in 150 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:17.000 spite of the fear. 151 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:17.279 Right. 152 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:22.240 Yeah, So he isn't superman. He just has the courage 153 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:23.879 to take the next step, to do the next thing 154 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.480 that he's supposed to do, just do the next right thing. 155 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.399 And I think that a huge part of courage, a 156 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:32.959 huge part of bravery, is just simply that one foot 157 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.639 in front of the other, do the next necessary thing, 158 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:39.360 regardless of what the outcome might be. And if you 159 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:43.000 do that next thing, you know, fifteen steps down the road, 160 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.000 you look back and go, wow, we came through a 161 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:45.800 really tough one there. 162 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.319 You know, it's funny that you just said one foot 163 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.959 in front of the other, because I just watched the 164 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.519 claymation of Santa Claus is coming to town. Oh, there 165 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.519 you go, and you know that's all. Yes, put one 166 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.720 foot in front of the other, that's right. And yeah, 167 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:01.079 we just we just watched it last night. 168 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:02.879 That was not what I was thinking, but yes, yes, 169 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:06.160 but hey, it's a great principle. 170 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:06.439 Yeah. 171 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:08.759 Hey, when I was going through cancer, I knew that 172 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.720 I didn't have any control over the circumstance, and so 173 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:14.279 I just kept telling Bonnie and my friends, you know, 174 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:15.759 I don't know what's going to happen next. I just 175 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:17.480 have to go to the next doctor's appointment, right, I 176 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:18.879 just have to go to the next test. I have 177 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.399 to go do the next thing, and then next thing, 178 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:23.720 you know, I'm having this dangerous surgery. And that was scary, 179 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.319 but you just do the next thing, and then when 180 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:27.639 you get through it, you look back and go, I 181 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.319 can't believe I've come all this way. And that really 182 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:34.399 is I think what real courage is as opposed to 183 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:36.320 you know, we tend to think of courage as that 184 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:40.000 one instantaneous decision to jump on the grenade. And while 185 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:43.799 that's incredibly courageous, normal everyday courage is not that it's 186 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.200 just doing the next necessary thing in the right way. 187 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:47.600 Yeah, hey, that's really good. 188 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:48.799 Yeah yeah. 189 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:51.679 And by the way, you know, you know, you always 190 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:53.919 imagine yourself to be courageous, you know what I mean, 191 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.759 And you always think, man, if I was that person, 192 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:58.720 I would I would I would have jumped in front 193 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.759 of the you know whatever. So I remember one time 194 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.200 I was working at a car dealership and I was 195 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:07.320 doing a test drive with some guy and he was 196 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:10.240 driving and I was, you know, the salesman in the seat, 197 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.519 and he got in a car wreck, the massive car wreck. Massive, 198 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:18.000 Oh yeah, for sure. And and the air bags go off. 199 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:20.720 They burned my arm, by the way, chemicals and all this, right, 200 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.120 and and so just boom, every air bag goes off. 201 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.600 Well immediately the chemicals look like smoke. I don't know 202 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:31.720 if you've ever seen that scene, but it's really chemicals 203 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:34.399 in the airbag, and it sort of like puffs up 204 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:36.720 and it comes out. Anyway, the point is the car 205 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:40.360 filled with this white chemical that looked like the car 206 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:44.600 was on fire. Right, So anyway, we're getting this big wreck. 207 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:48.720 I unbuckle my seatbelt and I run across the street 208 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.000 thinking the car is going to blow up. And then 209 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:53.919 and then I look over across the street. It's only 210 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.240 him and me, right, there's nobody else around, and he 211 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:00.440 is there and his seat belt is stuck, so I said, 212 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.039 I said, hurry up, I said, the car is gonna blow. 213 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:06.279 And he goes, he goes, my seatbelt stuck. And you 214 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.080 would think that I would run over and I would 215 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.960 just help him, right and risk my life because I 216 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.919 thought the car was on fire. But instead I started yelling, 217 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.000 hit the thing, hit the button. 218 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:21.320 I was. I was like, good luck, you know, good 219 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:21.879 luck with that. 220 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:24.120 And in that moment, I remember, you know, it was 221 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:25.919 all over, and I realized it wasn't on fire, and 222 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.600 I thought to myself, I can't believe I was that person, 223 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:30.960 and I like to go split second, yeah, but I 224 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.720 did not run toward the flaming car. 225 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:36.320 Well, note to self, right, I'm gonna I'm just gonna 226 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:40.240 file that one away. If you get in trouble with Chris, 227 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:41.039 you're on your own. 228 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:44.919 Well, you know, save yourself. Hopefully it was a lesson 229 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:49.120 and I have changed that a new man, hopefully, because 230 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:52.159 it's stuck with me all these years later. I'm like, well, what, 231 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:53.200 I'm like, what was that? 232 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:53.840 Yep? 233 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:54.799 It was hilarious. 234 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:59.120 So we'll keep going here. Titus is one of Paul's associates, 235 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:01.440 and one of the things we learned about leadership from 236 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.480 Paul is Paul did not just only depend on him 237 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:07.279 and his own influence. Paul was willing to develop and 238 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.240 train and send out other people to represent the message 239 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:14.200 that they were spreading, right, and so he learned to delegate, 240 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.840 and he learned to trust other leaders that he had 241 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:19.639 helped develop, and Titus being one of them. Not only that, 242 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:21.919 but you can read through this passage he's kind of 243 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:25.480 expecting the Corinthian Church to respect Titus in the same 244 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:27.720 way that they would show respect to Paul. So Paul's 245 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:31.080 not saying, oh, you know, you should give me extra respect. 246 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:33.600 He's saying, man, it just brings me great joy that 247 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:38.440 you respected and listened to and followed and obeyed Titus 248 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:41.279 like you would me. And I think that's incredibly important 249 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.679 that he's not elevating himself above all of his other 250 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.039 workers or partners, but he's saying, hey, you know, whether 251 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.840 it was me or whether it was Titus, you're honoring, 252 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:51.799 you know, the teachings that are coming there, and that's 253 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:54.720 really important. It's just an interesting side because The main 254 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:58.000 point is Titus came back with a message saying, hey, 255 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.639 remember that really harsh letter you wrote to the Corinthians, 256 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:04.559 Well it changed their lives, right, And Paul's like right. 257 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.639 And you know, it's interesting because Paul wrote, believe to 258 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.799 have written four letters, and the letter that he's referring 259 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:14.879 to actually is not First or Second Corinthians. It's it's 260 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:15.759 a third letter. 261 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:17.840 It may not be, it may not be. Yeah, So 262 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:19.480 it depends. And if you believe that First and Second 263 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:24.000 Corinthians are two books, three books or four books, right, right, 264 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.879 So it may be when he he had you know, 265 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:28.600 four or five chapters rate in a row where he's 266 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:30.879 kind of smacking them about the fact that they're allowing 267 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:34.600 sin in the church and the way that they're mistreating 268 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:37.559 their bodies and you know, all these things. So that 269 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.519 could be the one where he's kind of smacking them 270 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:42.519 on that or not. But so some theologians think it 271 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.320 it's the lost letter. But yeah, we just don't know. 272 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:48.559 Yeah, I would say I would say probably most that 273 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:51.639 I've heard through the years believe that there are lost letters. 274 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:55.559 Well, if First Corinthians wasn't the harsh letter, then how 275 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:57.960 harsh was this lost letter, oh for sure, because I 276 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.000 mean First Crinthians. He just smacks them up the whole time, 277 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:02.279 right right, Yeah, So remember. 278 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.960 That Babylon v thing read it was so good. So anyway, 279 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:08.960 so when he's referring to he was referring to that 280 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:10.879 and he says, hey, you know, I know it caused 281 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:14.879 you pain, and I'm glad I send it now, not 282 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:18.320 because it hurt you, but because it caused you to repent. 283 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:21.840 So he said, that's the difference between godly sorrow and 284 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:25.360 worldly sorrow, because worldly sorrow leads you to death because 285 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.440 it has no hope in it, it has no repentance, 286 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:32.320 it has nothing of God in worldly sorrow. But godly 287 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.360 sorrow is something that contains with it something you know good. 288 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:39.039 And then and he just says, you know, it actually 289 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.000 carries with it all the different things, and he unpacks 290 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:46.039 that idea and he says, you know, godly sorrow has 291 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.759 led you to repentance, it's led you to you know, commitment, 292 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:52.799 all these different things. And I think that that's a 293 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:54.840 that's a good that's a good point because sometimes when 294 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.080 we read scriptures we can see that. Obviously, when he's 295 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:02.399 talking about Macedonia and and letters. All of this is 296 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:06.960 pretty much like circumstantial. In other words, it's meant. It's 297 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:10.840 meant to be between Paul and them. There's not really 298 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:13.639 too much application you can really grab from that other 299 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:17.919 than the things we've sort of pointed out. But when 300 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:20.000 he says, hey, let me tell you about the difference 301 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:23.159 between godly sorrow and worldly sorrow. Now, this is something 302 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:27.039 that connects directly to something that's true today. It's true 303 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:31.159 of God, and it's true of his followers experiencing God. 304 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.000 And so therefore we're like, oh, here's a piece of 305 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.879 information that has to do directly with us, and so 306 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:40.039 godly sorrow is a good thing. 307 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:43.519 Well, we live in a society today where everybody's so 308 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:47.320 easily triggered that it's shocking that it's an acceptable thing here. 309 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.960 That Paul confronted them about their sin and expected them. 310 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:53.240 Knew that it would cause pain, he said, didn't want 311 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.159 to cause you pain. Matter of fact, I kind of 312 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:57.879 regretted writing a letter for a minute. But what I 313 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:01.960 knew is that pain would cause sorrow, and that sorrow 314 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:06.519 then would hopefully cause you to repent, so worldly sorrow 315 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:10.200 being Oh, I feel bad that I got caught or 316 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.919 I don't like the consequences of what happened. That's worldly 317 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.639 sorrow as opposed to godly sorrow, which leads to repentance. 318 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.159 Repentance means I changed my mind, I change my behavior, 319 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.879 I move away from myself and back to God. Right, 320 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.440 that be godly sorrow. And so you know there is 321 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:29.759 something about this that as parents, the consequences to our 322 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:32.480 children's bad behavior has to exceed the benefits of the 323 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:36.320 bad behavior, right, which means it's going to cause sorrow. 324 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.320 There's going to be weeping and wailing. They're going to 325 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:40.879 be crying about the fact that you said no, or 326 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:42.879 that there's a consequence that you know, they didn't do 327 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:44.679 what they're supposed to do and now there's a consequence 328 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:48.799 to it. They're going to act like you're killing them, right, 329 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.879 that it's a single worst thing ever, or teenagers slamming 330 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:56.080 doors and yelling, you know, at you and stuff. But 331 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:59.480 the goal is not to punish for the sake of 332 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:03.960 making them shamed or whatever. The goal is that godly correction, 333 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:09.679 good correction always leads to changed behavior, change mind, change behavior. 334 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:13.240 And it's not just when somebody comes back and says 335 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:17.240 I'm sorry I'm sorry needs to be measured against what 336 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.279 are you sorry for? Are you sorry because you got caught, Well, 337 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:22.879 then that's not real repentance. Are you sorry because you 338 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.720 don't like the consequences, Well then that's not real repentance. 339 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:27.840 You have to come to a place where you've changed 340 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:31.360 your mind, You're changing your will. Your will is changing. 341 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:34.080 And that's the responsibility of parents with their children. That's 342 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.840 the responsibility of leaders with their followers. That's the responsibility 343 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.840 with pastors with their church members. That's the responsibility. That's 344 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.480 what God does with us is His goal is to 345 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.639 change our heart and our will to align with his. 346 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.799 Yeah, so we love the Life Application Study Bible. And 347 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.200 one of the notes down here talks about how Paul 348 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.919 affirmed the Corinthians for the right response for the correction 349 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.159 that he had given them, and he said, it's difficult 350 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:01.840 to accept criticism, correcttion, and a rebuke with poison grace. 351 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.839 It's much more natural to be defensive and then counterattack. 352 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:09.480 We hear criticism, we respond with self pity and self justification, 353 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.200 thinking we really don't deserve it. And then he says 354 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.279 we can be angry and resentful, and he says, but 355 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:21.160 a mature Christian should graciously accept constructive criticism, seriously evaluate 356 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:24.119 it and by the way, that's really important, and then 357 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:27.160 grow from it. And by the way, I also want 358 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:31.160 to read. Another note that's pretty cool is in verse 359 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.319 nuver ten. He says, sorrow God wants us to experience 360 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:38.119 can result and change behavior. But to many people sorrow. 361 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.880 To many people, they're only sorry for the effects of 362 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:44.480 their sins, for being caught, which is world to sorrow. 363 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:47.640 And then he goes on he says this compare Peter's 364 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:53.240 remorse and repentance with judases, bitterness, and active suicide. Both 365 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:56.960 disowned Christ, but one repented and was restored to faith 366 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:00.880 and service. The other did not. Great example, isn't it. 367 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:03.480 Yeah. I can remember a few weeks ago we were 368 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:05.000 in a meeting and I don't know why. I was 369 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.240 just been out of shape the whole day, feeling just 370 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:12.440 mildly grumpy about everything. Marry this probably, and I popped 371 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:16.039 off about somebody who wasn't in the room. Remember, So 372 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:20.839 I'm just frustrated and I said some things that were 373 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:24.920 not untrue. Sure, It's just it was something I should 374 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.559 have directly addressed the person with instead of saying it 375 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:31.480 in front of another team, right, And so you're like, dude, 376 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:33.519 you're kind of being a jerk about this person that's 377 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:34.079 not in the room. 378 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:35.720 You know, well, I texted. 379 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:38.200 You texted it to me. Yeah, And I'm like, well, 380 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:41.680 now you're being a jerk right in my head, and 381 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:43.799 why do I pay these people to tell me that 382 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:45.799 I'm doing a bad thing? And then as I'm sitting 383 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.480 there in that meeting, more and more where I'm like, oh, 384 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:51.279 he's right, man, and I didn't want you to be right. 385 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:55.599 And then finally, as I'm evaluating what you said, everything 386 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.759 you said in that text was true, it was right, 387 00:18:58.000 --> 00:18:59.839 and you did it in a in a great way. 388 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:02.440 You know, it wouldn't have been inappropriate for you to 389 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:05.440 confront me in that moment in front of everybody, because 390 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.880 I was misbehaving in front of everybody, but you did 391 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:12.160 confront me privately, which was perfectly acceptable as well. And 392 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:14.119 then as I sat through that meeting, more and more 393 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:15.799 and more I went from being kind of mad that 394 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.400 you confronted me, to well, he's mostly right, to dude, 395 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:22.799 I shouldn't have done that, to oh, man, I'm sorry. 396 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:25.680 Right in that course of that conversation, and I think 397 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:28.519 that that's the benefit of having people that you can 398 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:31.799 trust because I know you mean no damage to me. Ever, sure, 399 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:33.680 and I don't mean any damage to you. I don't 400 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:35.720 want to hurt you. I want everything that we do 401 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:37.359