1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,760 Welcome to the We Are More podcast. 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,600 My name is Alyssa. 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,600 And my name is Bri. 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,600 We are two sisters passionate about all things faith and feminism. 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,520 We believe that Jesus trusted, respected, and encouraged women to teach and preach His 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,520 word. 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,720 And apparently that's controversial. 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Get comfy. 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,960 Hello! 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Hello! 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Welcome to episode 10. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,320 The second mini episode we've done, I guess. 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,880 We're a whole decade old. 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,880 A whole decade. 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,880 That's what 10 means, right? 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,200 Do you want to know what's really sad? 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,720 This year I will have been out of college for a decade. 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,720 That is sad. 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,360 That is so sad. 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,600 I am also old. 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,640 I've been out of college for 75,000 years. 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Wow, that's a lot. 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,120 I knew the dinosaurs. 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,120 Oh. 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,120 In college? 26 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,120 They were my professors. 27 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,120 Oh. 28 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,120 That's exciting. 29 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,200 What did you learn about, Bri? 30 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,200 Tree stars. 31 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Hey, that's a great movie. 32 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,200 Series of movies? 33 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,880 They never ended. 34 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,880 No. 35 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,520 I'm surprised they're not still making them. 36 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,520 They might. 37 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,960 We should probably say what movie this is. 38 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:31,880 The Land Before Time series, if you haven't caught on to it. 39 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Who hasn't seen that? 40 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:34,640 Anyone younger than us, Bri. 41 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,760 They don't do those anymore. 42 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,640 I think I saw something that they were making a new one, but it was like a different animation 43 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,480 style so it really weirded me out. 44 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,240 I feel like the whole story of it doesn't seem like it would translate super well to 45 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,240 now. 46 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,240 Dinosaurs? 47 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:55,040 No, like the depressing cartoon style. 48 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,880 Just ask Disney, they love to depress you. 49 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,160 They do, but not quite as much as they used to love to depress you. 50 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,800 See here's my theory. 51 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,040 They depress you with their cartoons so then you have to go to Disney World to be happy 52 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,040 again. 53 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,680 They've caught us. 54 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,280 They have us hook, line, and sinker. 55 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,720 I literally, like, I've, we're what, two and a half-ish months out? 56 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,040 Like 82 days. 57 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:28,920 From our trip to Disney, our millionth trip to Disney, and I have crossed over. 58 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:29,920 I know. 59 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:33,560 Like the moment we bought the plane tickets it was like, okay, all I want to do now is 60 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,080 watch the YouTube Disney videos and be a psycho. 61 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,880 I want to plan out every snack I'm going to eat while I'm there and also every outfit 62 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,560 that I'm going to wear while I'm there. 63 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,680 And I think I'm going to dress in theme every single day. 64 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,680 Wow. 65 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,720 That's a lot of commitment. 66 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,960 I don't have that level of commitment. 67 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,000 I'm probably not going to do that, but I do have a pair of alien ears. 68 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 You do. 69 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 I'm going to get that purse. 70 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 The little alien purse. 71 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,960 That was very cute. 72 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,480 I always have a desire to theme what I wear, but I just… 73 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,480 That's a lot of commitment. 74 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,360 I'm not that kind of an organized person. 75 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,360 Yeah. 76 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,360 I've always said that. 77 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,840 So anyway. 78 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaking of movies and cinema. 79 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,880 Great transition, Bri. 80 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,880 Nice work. 81 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Today we're talking about Bridgerton. 82 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,400 So we said for these mini episodes that we wanted to, like, talk about something super 83 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,160 current that's going on in the world. 84 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,560 And if you've been living under a rock, Bridgerton… 85 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,280 You still may have heard of it. 86 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Bridgerton season 3, part 1 came out a little while ago, and part 2 comes out June 13th. 87 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,960 But I feel like by the time this comes out, you probably will have seen it. 88 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,620 Although I don't recommend that you watch it. 89 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:44,880 Watch at your own risk. 90 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Yeah. 91 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,840 It's very graphic. 92 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,320 You know, there's actually a service. 93 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,520 It's called VidAngel. 94 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,520 I saw that. 95 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Yeah. 96 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,640 So we used to use it way back in the day, and it filters out stuff for you. 97 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,120 So if you didn't want to see nudity, or you don't want the cussin, you know… 98 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,180 There's lots of cussin. 99 00:04:04,180 --> 00:04:08,880 You can select what you don't want to see, and it'll kind of just like blip over that. 100 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,400 I feel like with Bridgerton, you probably would end up with about 30 seconds left of 101 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,400 an episode. 102 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,400 There's not going to be a lot. 103 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Sorry, mom. 104 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,840 But we thought it would be fun to go through… 105 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:30,280 Bri has been listening to all the little clips and everything to talk about some of 106 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:34,960 the societal issues, I guess, in Bridgerton. 107 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,240 So if you don't know, Bridgerton is like, think Pride and Prejudice meets Gossip Girl, 108 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,800 is how I would best describe it. 109 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,400 And Julie Andrews narrates it. 110 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,400 She's lovely. 111 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,400 She's magical. 112 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,400 A treasure. 113 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,480 And inappropriate. 114 00:04:52,480 --> 00:05:01,040 But it's about this family from the Regency era, so think like 1811 through 1820. 115 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,400 And it focuses on the elite society in London. 116 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,960 So the fancy pantses. 117 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,840 They hang out with the Queen, you know? 118 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:09,960 They do hang out with the Queen. 119 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,960 It seems like… 120 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,000 Is that a thing that people do? 121 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Maybe the elite people did? 122 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 I don't know. 123 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,640 The Queen has such nice wigs. 124 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,600 Oh, she does. 125 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,480 She must be in pain all the time. 126 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,680 Did you know? 127 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,440 So the wig that she wore… 128 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:30,760 You know, remember, it's in, I think, the last episode of the first half of the third 129 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,760 season? 130 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,760 It's very complicated. 131 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,000 We split season 3 up. 132 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 And one of the episodes… 133 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Because Netflix hates us. 134 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Because Netflix wants you to pay multiple months and not just pay for one month and 135 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,480 be done. 136 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,400 It is wrecking me. 137 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,120 But her wig, the one that has… 138 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,480 I think it's like a carousel inside of it? 139 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Do you know that took two years to design and create? 140 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,920 Oh my gosh. 141 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,840 When they were filming season 1, maybe? 142 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:02,240 Oh my gosh. 143 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,880 I don't know why it was that impactful that they were like, two years, that feels like 144 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,840 a reasonable amount of time to do this. 145 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:10,840 It is. 146 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:14,480 And I've always said that. 147 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,960 But I think I wanted to talk about Bridgerton today because I think it's a fantastic example 148 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,240 of how conservative Christian communities are living in the past. 149 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,240 I love that. 150 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,880 I mean, I don't love that, but I love the comparison. 151 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:33,400 Well, they make so many comments on it, like about women, and they're clearly being like, 152 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:39,880 obviously, this is the Regency era, 1811, blah, blah, blah, and how they viewed women. 153 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,320 So obviously today, it is not the same. 154 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Whereas they would say that quote and the conservative Christians would be like, yeah, 155 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,960 I agree. 156 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,240 So give us an example, Brie, of a quote like that. 157 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,720 So the Bridgertons have eight siblings and each different… well, they're based off 158 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,640 of books by Julia Quinn, but each different season focuses on a different sibling from 159 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,120 the Bridgerton family. 160 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,520 So the first season focuses on the oldest daughter. 161 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,520 And it's all about marriage. 162 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,640 So it starts out with her being presented to the Queen, which essentially means she's 163 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,520 able to be married now. 164 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,960 And up until that point, her mother and her governess and her maids, whatever, have taught 165 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:29,240 her everything that she needs to know in order to be a perfect wife and attract a very suitable 166 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,520 husband with a title. 167 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,920 Her husband in that season is very attractive. 168 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,940 Not a lot of facial emotions, but he has a nice face. 169 00:07:38,940 --> 00:07:45,080 So in season one, kind of spoilers, but the drama is that her brother has kind of ruined 170 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,720 it for her because he's trying to find the best possible suitor for her. 171 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,840 But in the process of doing that, he's made her look kind of snobbish. 172 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,880 And so she's fighting with her brother. 173 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,040 And the quote is, it's my duty to protect you. 174 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,880 And then she says, and what of my duty? 175 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:12,240 She says, you have no idea what it is to be a woman, what it might be like to have one's 176 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,920 entire life reduced to a single moment. 177 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,580 This is all I have been raised for. 178 00:08:16,580 --> 00:08:17,580 This is all I am. 179 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:19,200 I have no other value. 180 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,960 If I am unable to find a husband, I will be worthless. 181 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,520 I feel like just mic drop right there. 182 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,520 I know. 183 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,340 Because you think, of course that's not true. 184 00:08:29,340 --> 00:08:32,880 Like us in 2024, we're looking at that and we're like, of course that's not true. 185 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,040 Of course you have value. 186 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,960 But the conservative Christian world does not see women that way. 187 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:47,200 And especially for me coming from like, I'm single and I'm 29. 188 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,480 What happens in August when you have to say zip it? 189 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,480 You zip it. 190 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,280 I'm just going to pass away at that point. 191 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:59,200 I'm going to die at a lovely age of 29. 192 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,800 But I do feel like that when you step into a church and their first question meeting 193 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,320 you is like, oh, do you have a fiance, a husband, a boyfriend? 194 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Do you have children? 195 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,400 They only preach to married people. 196 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,200 It's very rare for people like pastors to preach to single women. 197 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:24,440 When Harrison Butker goes up and says a women's greatest accomplishment or value is to be 198 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:30,680 a wife and mother, it isolates so many women and it makes you feel like your only value 199 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:37,600 is to be a wife and mother, which is just not true. 200 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,960 Because if you see Psalms 139, pull that up. 201 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:40,960 Oh, okay. 202 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Hold on. 203 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,880 I didn't know I was getting called out. 204 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:49,360 Well that chapter talks about how much value you have in the eyes of God. 205 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,180 And it doesn't matter what you do. 206 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:59,320 It doesn't matter if you're married or single, if you have sinned or you're blameless, which 207 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,040 is not true. 208 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,920 But it doesn't matter what you do. 209 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,160 God is there and you have value because you're a child of God and that's the end of the list. 210 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,480 So verse 13 says, for you created my inmost being, you knit me together in my mother's 211 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,480 womb. 212 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,760 I praise you because I'm fearfully and wonderfully made. 213 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Your works are wonderful. 214 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,680 I know that full well. 215 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:20,680 See isn't that powerful? 216 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:21,680 It is quite. 217 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:22,680 Well, it's a Psalm. 218 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:23,680 It's supposed to be. 219 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:24,680 All of Psalms are powerful. 220 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:25,680 But it's true. 221 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:32,560 One of the things that absolutely proves your point right there is when we were in a small 222 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:40,800 church recently, we were both going and the church leaders kind of made a bigger deal 223 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,960 out of Nathan and I and wanted to get to know us and chat with us. 224 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,440 Now me to a lesser extent than my husband, but still. 225 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,680 They took you out to lunch. 226 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:50,680 Yeah, it was a whole thing. 227 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:52,760 They remembered your name. 228 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:59,960 And then Brianna was there just as many times as I was literally sat next to me. 229 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,800 And I don't think anyone spoke a word to you. 230 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,040 No, it was like you didn't exist. 231 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,840 If they did speak a word to me, it was, Oh, are you married? 232 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,260 Do you have a husband? 233 00:11:09,260 --> 00:11:12,640 And then once they find out that you don't, they don't have anything else to talk to 234 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:13,640 you about. 235 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,320 Or they say, Oh, like, how can you be single? 236 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,360 You're so pretty, which I am. 237 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,200 But that's insulting. 238 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Right. 239 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,760 And it's insulting to say that because yes, I am beautiful. 240 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,160 And I hold value on my own. 241 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,640 Yeah, you don't have to sit around and wait until you get married to suddenly have a place 242 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,000 in the church or suddenly have a place in society. 243 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,520 And I think society, obviously, society is still sexist. 244 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,240 Don't get me wrong. 245 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Look at TikTok. 246 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:54,920 But at the same time, I think society is trying up North American where we're sitting right 247 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:01,040 now society is trying to move towards single women have just as much value as married women. 248 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,760 But the church doesn't feel that way. 249 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,680 But Jesus was single. 250 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:10,080 Well, I mean, Paul says that it is better to be single. 251 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,400 And if you must get married, then to do so. 252 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,200 And I'm not saying I will never take a husband. 253 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,560 But right now in this season of my life, I am single. 254 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:24,000 And that's okay. 255 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,280 And to all of you single ladies out there, and especially if you're a little bit older 256 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,560 like I am, it's okay. 257 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:30,560 You're fine. 258 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:36,400 You can find that person if you want to online probably because where else do you find men? 259 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,340 But it's okay. 260 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:44,240 You are perfect just as you are you hold value and I love you. 261 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,480 And hold out for someone decent. 262 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Yes, do not settle. 263 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,360 Like even you know, there's so much pressure to get married. 264 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,160 And even if everybody you know is getting married, you're at that age where like you're 265 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,080 going to 45 weddings and whatever. 266 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:07,080 My gosh, if he sucks, if he's terrible, leave him. 267 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,360 Because your marriage will suck and be terrible. 268 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,120 After actually branding got engaged, I was like, I'm alone. 269 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,360 I'm so alone. 270 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:27,640 So I went through this like speed dating process I was online I was talking to all the men. 271 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,680 And I found I'm, I'm the worst person like if you tell me that something's going wrong 272 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:33,680 in your relationship. 273 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:36,800 I'm like, leave him. 274 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Because I did. 275 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:43,400 Like the first guy that I was dating in that season. 276 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,960 He explicitly was like, Oh, yeah, my dream for marriage is for me to be the head of the 277 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,080 household the spiritual lead. 278 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,220 And I went off. 279 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:53,960 I was like, absolutely not. 280 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:54,960 That's not what I'm looking for. 281 00:13:54,960 --> 00:14:00,320 I'm looking for a partnership someone who values me beyond just being a wife or a mother. 282 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,720 And he's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally agree. 283 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,960 That's what I meant. 284 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,920 That's what I meant was I want a partnership too. 285 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,680 And I was like, See you bye. 286 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:12,680 I think that's a fair see you bye. 287 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:19,280 And then the other guy was like, Well, I see us dating for about a year and then engaged 288 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,960 for about a year and then you don't want to have babies like when you're super old. 289 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,960 So we should start having babies pretty quickly. 290 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,840 And I was like, Whoa, and he's like, Well, what do you think? 291 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,840 Let's keep talking about it. 292 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,080 And I was like, I actually don't want to talk about this right now. 293 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,540 You're making me very uncomfortable. 294 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:36,040 And I want to stop this conversation. 295 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:41,320 He goes, he threw my age in my face and was like, Well, you're this age, we need to start 296 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,320 talking about this. 297 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,360 And I'm like, you'd been dating for what, like three months? 298 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,360 Maybe. 299 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,200 I was like, this is a good enough reason for me to leave you. 300 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,200 Goodbye. 301 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,560 But see, okay. 302 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,160 When you talk about it like that, it sounds flippant, like, Oh, well, fine, I'm just done. 303 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,480 But those are very serious warning signs. 304 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Yeah. 305 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,680 And if you're seeing those three months and honestly, I think it was less than three months, 306 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,240 it's time to go. 307 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,240 Yeah. 308 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,440 And that would be my advice to people out there in the dating world. 309 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,080 Like you said, don't settle. 310 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:18,520 And if those warning signs or someone is making you feel that uncomfortable that quickly, 311 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:19,520 it's not worth it. 312 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,520 No, it's not. 313 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,320 There are so many people out there. 314 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Well, I think again, we place so much value and church but also society as a whole on 315 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:34,840 marriage, on having that love marriage relationship that you see on TV. 316 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,840 On Bridgerton. 317 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,840 On Bridgerton. 318 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:43,960 That it seems like as long as we can get down the aisle, everything's going to be fine. 319 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,960 And that is not true. 320 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,560 Not at all true. 321 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Don't set yourself up for failure. 322 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,200 Look for someone who's worth your time. 323 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,800 Because you've said like the first year of marriage was the hardest for you, right? 324 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,760 So hard. 325 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Because you're trying to combine your life with somebody else's. 326 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:07,400 And so if you're not too strong people whose goal is to be there for the other person, 327 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,400 whose goal is to make this marriage work, it's not going to work. 328 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,400 You're screwed. 329 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,360 Like just give up now. 330 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,460 Like that sounds so bad, but really don't put yourself in that position. 331 00:16:18,460 --> 00:16:20,280 Don't walk down the aisle. 332 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,280 Be a runaway bride. 333 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,280 I don't care. 334 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,120 Like if that's better for you, being a runaway bride is going to be a whole lot better than 335 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,760 walking through a messy divorce in five years with kids and dealing with all of that. 336 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,760 It's not worth it. 337 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,320 Bri, what's another quote from Bridgerton? 338 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,040 I would love to hear another. 339 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,040 Okay. 340 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,840 So this comes from season two. 341 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,840 Season two. 342 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:40,840 The worst of the seasons. 343 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,840 It's not good. 344 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,360 But there's only been two and a half so far. 345 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,360 That's fair. 346 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,880 But it's still the worst. 347 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Although the main girl in that season is stunning. 348 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,520 She's beautiful. 349 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,520 So beautiful. 350 00:16:52,520 --> 00:17:00,400 But the second season focuses on the oldest son, which I think is an interesting change 351 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,080 from like the daughter's perspective of season one. 352 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:09,240 And now we're in the son's perspective of season two and his job is to find a wife. 353 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:14,400 So his family legacy lives on so he can have an heir. 354 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,280 Well complicated stuff happens. 355 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,000 Anyways, he falls in love with a older woman, older for the time. 356 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,000 She's 26. 357 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,160 He's still younger than he is. 358 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:30,160 And she, I would say, doesn't conform to the traditional lady-like society because she's 359 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,000 not out looking for a husband really. 360 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 She's trying to find one for her sister. 361 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,240 You can watch season two and you can figure all that. 362 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,920 Anyways, she is going on a hunt with the men. 363 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,520 The men. 364 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,720 And the men kind of laugh when they find out that she is going to come and they're like, 365 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,160 women do not go on hunts. 366 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,640 And she responds with, women do not or women are not allowed to. 367 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:59,560 I think that is very powerful because how often are you hearing like, girls don't speak 368 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,200 like that. 369 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Girls don't do that. 370 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Girls don't wear clothes like that. 371 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,200 Literally my whole life. 372 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,200 All the time. 373 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:14,000 And my response now and forever will be, well women do speak like that because I am a woman. 374 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,880 And I'm speaking like that. 375 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,680 Well we get that a lot from this podcast of like, well we're not being feminine when we 376 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,560 speak because we'll say, we'll talk about stuff. 377 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,800 We'll say, piss piss piss. 378 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,040 We have one of those where we say boobs like 12 times. 379 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,000 And I understand that that's not lady-like. 380 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Lady-like. 381 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,600 And I'm not saying that it's appropriate for every situation, but not because I'm a woman, 382 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,000 simply because it's not appropriate for every situation. 383 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Exactly. 384 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,920 In this particular situation with you and I sitting here laughing, making jokes, knowing 385 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,280 that we're speaking primarily to women. 386 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Not all, but primarily. 387 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,400 And that one guy on TikTok. 388 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:01,480 I think it's totally fine for us to speak like this and just be who we are. 389 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,920 Not who we are as women, not who we are as ladies, just who we are. 390 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Because you can't say that all women are the same and should speak the same. 391 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,160 Like how they say, a woman's greatest value is to be a wife and mother. 392 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,240 What is a man's greatest value? 393 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,160 You wouldn't be able to define that because you'd say, well, there's so many different 394 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,320 individual men and their callings are different. 395 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,480 It's the same for women. 396 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Right. 397 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,480 Everybody is different. 398 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Their callings are different. 399 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,480 Their likes and dislikes are different. 400 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,480 Yeah. 401 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,480 Like she wants to go out on this hunt. 402 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,000 Let me tell you, no desire. 403 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,000 No, pass. 404 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 No, thank you. 405 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,280 I like the inside. 406 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,160 But I had several female friends who love to hunt. 407 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,640 My roommate from college, shout out to Jamie, she hunts bears. 408 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,640 Love that for her. 409 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,720 If that's where she finds joy, have a super time. 410 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,720 Not where I find joy, but not because I'm a woman. 411 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Again, simply because you are Alyssa. 412 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:56,960 Because I'm me. 413 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:02,380 Well, we had this conversation last night with our mom where we said, and I'm absolutely 414 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:10,920 guilty of doing this too, but whenever a statement starts out with, as a woman, I feel this way. 415 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,840 Or not from me, but from someone else. 416 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,960 As a man, I feel this way. 417 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,200 And the issue with those statements is that you're putting yourself in the place to be 418 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,240 the speaker for all womankind. 419 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,800 As a woman, don't you think you just want to be taken care of? 420 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,960 No, not as a woman. 421 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,960 If you in your life- 422 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,080 As an individual, everyone wants to be taken care of. 423 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,160 So that's kind of a bad example. 424 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,840 But if you in your life want to be someone who's financially taken care of, who's not 425 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,800 necessarily bringing in money- 426 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,400 Hey Jack, I would love that. 427 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,400 I'm looking for a sugar daddy. 428 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,080 You can't say that. 429 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,840 That's against the whole podcast. 430 00:20:52,840 --> 00:21:01,440 I'm looking for a husband of great age, close to death, no children. 431 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,440 He needs to be wealthy. 432 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,440 You missed that part. 433 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,440 Very wealthy. 434 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 That's the really important part. 435 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,080 But the point is that those statements aren't because you're a woman or because you're 436 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,120 a man or because you're whatever. 437 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,400 It's simply because you're you. 438 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,280 You have one more quote that I really like that I want to get to. 439 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:28,200 I haven't seen season three part two yet because in my world it's not out yet. 440 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,920 But there was a quote on the trailer for it and it was so good. 441 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,520 Alyssa and I both picked up on it. 442 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,160 As soon as we saw it we were texting each other like, did you see that? 443 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,240 As we're in bed at 8 o'clock. 444 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:48,560 So season three focuses on one of the Bridgerton's sons and his best friend who becomes his more 445 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,960 than friends. 446 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,760 So this girl's name is Penelope. 447 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,640 And Penelope's mother is talking to her. 448 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,280 That's the best British accent I've ever heard. 449 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,880 I think we should go to England on our trip and you should talk like that. 450 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,080 I'm looking for the queen. 451 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,720 Too bad she's dead. 452 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,720 She's that's the way. 453 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,720 Oh the queen. 454 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Things are so sad. 455 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,720 I think she died like two years ago. 456 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,720 It's really upsetting. 457 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:28,680 Anyways, so Penelope's mother is talking to her before she gets married to Mr. Bridgerton. 458 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,560 And her quote is, your duty is to cater to Mr. Bridgerton's dreams. 459 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,560 And Penelope says, what about my dreams? 460 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,040 And her mother says, ladies do not have dreams. 461 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,440 They have husbands. 462 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,720 Does that feel like it could be a direct quote out of Harrison Butker's stupid speech? 463 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Yes. 464 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,720 Because he literally says that. 465 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,640 I wrote that in my notes. 466 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,680 Harrison Butker didn't say that as bluntly, but he did say that. 467 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,680 Absolutely. 468 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,000 It's the same message. 469 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:06,440 And again, within religious spheres, not everyone, but this is being said to women. 470 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,400 This is being taught to women. 471 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,280 You don't have dreams. 472 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,520 Your dream is to be a wife and mom. 473 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:19,700 Your job is to build up your husband's dreams and all of his desires and encourage them. 474 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:24,280 When I was younger, I did not want kids at all. 475 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,000 Now that has changed. 476 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Love my kids. 477 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 It's amazing. 478 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,440 It's funny how you and I have flip-flopped. 479 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,520 I wanted 100 children and now I'm like, no! 480 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,520 Because you saw childbirth. 481 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,680 It's really scary. 482 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:43,280 But really, I had no desire for kids and a lot of that was who I was dating at the time. 483 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,560 I didn't want it and I was fairly vocal about it. 484 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,480 You're fairly vocal. 485 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,480 Yeah. 486 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Period. 487 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,200 I'm an introvert, but I'm also kind of a loudmouth. 488 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,200 You are. 489 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,560 I don't know how that combines, but I am. 490 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:02,040 And so the rest of the family was fairly well aware of that. 491 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,920 And all the time, every time, it's like, well, you'll change your mind. 492 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,920 You'll change your mind. 493 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,920 You'll change your mind. 494 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,560 And I guess I'm a bad example because obviously I do have kids and they're wonderful. 495 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:18,680 But just the point of like, that's the message we're giving to women is, well, you just 496 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,480 really don't matter if you don't have kids. 497 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,480 That's so true. 498 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,360 That's how it feels. 499 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:29,600 That is being said to women all the time. 500 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,960 So one of the things that I've tried to be really conscious of with my daughter is she, 501 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,960 I mean, she's young, so it's not like she's making major life decisions now, but she has 502 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,000 said, I don't really want to have kids, mostly because it's going to hurt. 503 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,800 She's heard my story. 504 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,440 I'm pretty blatant. 505 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:54,640 And I've been very clear with her, if that's what you want, great. 506 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,480 If you don't want kids, great. 507 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,640 Do your thing. 508 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,360 Live whatever life you want to live. 509 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,960 If you do want to have kids, I'll be right there to support you. 510 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,320 If you don't want to have kids, I'll be right there to support you. 511 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,760 And she's so funny because there have been, you know, we come from a conservative space. 512 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,880 And so when she says things like that, she gets the same crap that I got as a kid. 513 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,680 And somebody said something to her once and I was like about to mama bear it. 514 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,560 So someone, she wants to be an astronaut, or she did. 515 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,680 Now she wants to be Taylor Swift. 516 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,000 But she, I think she still kind of wants to be an astronaut. 517 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,720 And someone had said to her, well, what are your kids going to do when you're up in space? 518 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,520 Oh, I almost lost my mind. 519 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,920 But she, no issues. 520 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Like right away she goes, someone else will take care of them. 521 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,080 They'll be fine. 522 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:53,160 And I was like, it's just so wonderful. 523 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,960 Because you, you always hope that your kids are hearing the things that you're saying. 524 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:06,000 And the fact that she doesn't have that hold on her to say, well, you must be a wife and 525 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,080 mom first. 526 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,240 If that's what she wants at the end of the day is to be a wife and stay at home mom, 527 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,320 great. 528 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,040 But that is not who she has to be. 529 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Right. 530 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,040 She gets to make that decision. 531 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,040 Yeah. 532 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:26,040 And I think that's very, it's a cool thing that I get to do and that you get to do and 533 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,280 like the people pouring into her life get to see. 534 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,560 She's a strong cookie. 535 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Yeah. 536 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,560 And I hope that that's something that we're doing for whoever's listening, but that you 537 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,920 can do it for the younger women in your life, whether they're your kids or not. 538 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,920 Yeah. 539 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,440 She's not my kid. 540 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,960 Like whoever's life you get to pour into, I hope you can give them that confidence to 541 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,600 say, I'm going to be who I want to be. 542 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,400 I'm going to follow the dreams that God gives me, not the dreams that God gave my husband 543 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,840 or if I choose not to take a husband. 544 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:11,440 You know, I hope that for us all that we can move into that space finally. 545 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Something else I wrote on my notes is about just power dynamics. 546 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:27,320 It just, it seems so desperate to keep this patriarchal society, this very like 1950s 547 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,360 view of marriage. 548 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:35,840 It seems desperate at this point because there's so much information out there disproving these 549 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,780 traditional gender role beliefs. 550 00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:45,280 It seems like, well, if I lose this power, then who am I? 551 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,280 You know? 552 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,980 Well, then I mean, I think that that's hitting the nail on the head. 553 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:57,200 This has been so ingrained in generations of men that this is who you are. 554 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,120 And if this isn't who you are, then you're weak. 555 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:04,400 You're not fulfilling what God wants of you and you're useless to us. 556 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,440 Jesus wasn't that. 557 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:14,760 Jesus wasn't this like, take charge, must be in control, manly man. 558 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,600 That's never said in the Bible. 559 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,840 It's nowhere. 560 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:23,800 Jesus was a quiet leader who put himself last. 561 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,640 And for anyone out there who wants to be a leader, that's the best kind of leader you 562 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,960 can be, man or woman. 563 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:39,200 So we love Pride and Prejudice, and we always have, as long as I can remember. 564 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,520 Oh yeah. 565 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:46,240 When I say that, I mean the four hour long BBC special with Colin frickin' Fur. 566 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,240 He is beautiful. 567 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:57,880 But we used to watch that regularly all the time, at least probably quarterly. 568 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,240 We watched that entire thing, if not more. 569 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,480 So we're watching it today, because why not? 570 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,280 It ties into Bridgerton. 571 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000 They're both regency. 572 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,600 And one of the things that I picked up on, and we were sitting watching it and I was 573 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,680 like, oh, I gotta talk about this in the podcast. 574 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,240 Elizabeth is walking, so her sister Jane, Jane is the oldest. 575 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,120 I feel like if you haven't seen this, there's going to be some context issues. 576 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,000 But Pride and Prejudice has been around for a long time. 577 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,240 I feel like there's very few spoilers. 578 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:38,920 So Jane is sick and she is staying with Mr. Bingley, who she's interested in. 579 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,480 Not like staying with him, staying with him. 580 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,160 She was over there and she got sick. 581 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,280 And apparently in Regency England, you can't travel three miles when you're sick. 582 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,040 So they like keep her there and bring the doctor and whatever. 583 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,000 So her sister Lizzie walks over to Mr. Bingley's house. 584 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,960 So it's like three miles, she walks it, sounds like a terrible time to me. 585 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,960 I'm not a walker. 586 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:02,080 Plus she's in like 45 skirts. 587 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,000 It's not a good time. 588 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,440 But she decides to walk. 589 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:12,040 And it's like a big thing with her mom that she goes walking with her sisters, whatever. 590 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,720 So she gets there and one of Mr. Bingley's sisters who is staying with him, they're 591 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,320 like making fun of her a little bit because she's country and a little bit hickish and 592 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,480 whatever. 593 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,400 And so the one girl is talking about Lizzie's skirts and she goes six inches deep in mud, 594 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,720 I swear. 595 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:37,080 So the other sister says that Lizzie walking was some kind of conceited independence. 596 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,880 So I wrote it down. 597 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:46,880 And I just, again, this Regency era, but still also applicable to what we talk about modern 598 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,560 day, all the girl chose to do was walk. 599 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,600 She did something slightly out of like the normal line of things. 600 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,600 The feminine expectation. 601 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,560 Now, if a man had walked, that wouldn't have been odd at all. 602 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,360 But because she's a woman, her walking was like, that's a little unfeminine. 603 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,880 That's a little weird. 604 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,440 So now we're going to say she's conceitedly independent. 605 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,920 I feel like that's secretly said to someone, like if you are a feminist in the Christian 606 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,320 world, it's like conceited independence. 607 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,480 My gosh, I feel like that should be our tagline. 608 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,760 We are more the conceitedly independent sisters. 609 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,200 I think that's good. 610 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,200 I think it is. 611 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,380 I'll put it up next time. 612 00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:39,200 One of the characters in Bridgerton that is a feminist is Eloise. 613 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,160 She's one of the sisters, Bridgerton sisters. 614 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:51,320 And she is looked at as very different because she has these like feminist viewpoints, which 615 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,040 are very different for the Regency era. 616 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,040 She wants to go to college, right? 617 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,520 Yeah, she wants to go to college. 618 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,140 She doesn't really want to get married. 619 00:31:57,140 --> 00:32:00,520 She doesn't want to come out to society because that totally freaks her out. 620 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160 When you say come out to society, we mean- 621 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,520 Be presented to the Queen. 622 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,520 There you go. 623 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,520 And say that you're ready for marriage. 624 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,880 Our idea of coming out is very different in 2024. 625 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,940 Imagine how unfortunate. 626 00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:17,960 She goes to college and she graduates and she has to hear Harrison Butchers' money. 627 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Your greatest value is to be a wife and mother. 628 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:32,240 So in season two, she is presented to society and she's compared to her sister who is like 629 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,360 the perfect lady. 630 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,720 So she's being compared to her sister and the quote is, she's talking to her mom. 631 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,040 She goes, I know that they are comparing me to Daphne. 632 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,520 I can never live up to that. 633 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,080 I do not want to live up to that, but it does not make it any easier to know you are constantly 634 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,880 disappointing people just by walking into a room. 635 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,400 How many times as a single person have I felt that way? 636 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,560 Every time I enter a holiday gathering alone, they're like, oh, you haven't found a husband 637 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,080 yet. 638 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,960 Constantly disappointing people. 639 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,680 And I feel like just that viewpoint needs to change. 640 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,320 Sometimes I feel like that with this podcast too. 641 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,280 We are so far away from what we grew up believing. 642 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:26,320 I think whenever we go into larger gatherings, this topic comes up a lot of the podcast or 643 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,840 feminism or whatever. 644 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,760 People know that we like to talk about it and so they like to push our buttons a little 645 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,320 bit sometimes or just have a conversation. 646 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,560 And it's the same thing. 647 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:43,320 It feels like we're constantly disappointing you just by being who we are. 648 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,840 Being conceitedly independent. 649 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:55,720 But I think because we are conceitedly independent, we are able to move past that to some degree 650 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,720 and because we have each other. 651 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760 Yeah, I think that's a big thing. 652 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:05,080 We have our parents who are very supportive of who we are, of the podcast, of the opinions 653 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,600 we have on things. 654 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,520 And that allows us to feel safe and secure. 655 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,520 And a little bit empowered. 656 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,520 Yeah. 657 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,520 Yeah. 658 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,520 Not everybody has that. 659 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,520 Yeah. 660 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,000 And you think about someone in that situation like the quote you just read and absolutely 661 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,640 they feel constantly disappointing. 662 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:29,000 And that's a big ask for somebody to step out and say, no, what I've been taught is 663 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,280 wrong. 664 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,480 And now you don't have any support anymore. 665 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,480 Right. 666 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,640 Now, who are you? 667 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,600 You're not your beliefs anymore because your beliefs have changed. 668 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:48,400 It makes it a lot easier to conform to someone that you are not. 669 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,660 Yeah. 670 00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:53,440 Sometimes you want that feeling of acceptance. 671 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,400 I mean, even for us, the easier path certainly would be, certainly with all the churches 672 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,760 we've had to go through lately, it would be to just say, yeah, this is fine. 673 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,400 I'll just pretend that I believe this stuff. 674 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,480 I could have married that man who wanted to have all my babies. 675 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,560 I don't think he wanted to have your babies. 676 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,560 He did. 677 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,080 He wanted to have them and birth them. 678 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080 He wanted to be the first man pregnant. 679 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,120 I mean, that's a better deal for you. 680 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,120 I know. 681 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,120 Childbirth is not a great time. 682 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120 Maybe I should call him. 683 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880 Please don't. 684 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,720 So next week we have an episode coming up. 685 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,440 We just recorded it. 686 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:41,960 It's our part three of the submission series and it is about the passage where Paul calls 687 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,760 men the head of women. 688 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,840 So we're going to talk through that. 689 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,160 It's a super fun one. 690 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,040 Well, maybe fun's not the right word. 691 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,080 I would say it's about the same as everything else. 692 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,360 We laugh a lot because we're at great times. 693 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,360 Yeah. 694 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,360 All right. 695 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,360 So we'll see you then. 696 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,760 We hope you guys have enjoyed this. 697 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,040 Please follow us on our social media. 698 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,800 Our TikTok, our Instagram, our Facebook. 699 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,800 That's it. 700 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,800 That's it. 701 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,800 YouTube. 702 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,800 We have YouTube. 703 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,800 Boom tube. 704 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,800 Okay. 705 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,800 We'll see you guys next week. 706 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,800 Bye. 707 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,800 Love you guys. 708 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,800 Bye. 709 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:46,800 Bye.