Layer One

In episode five of Layer One, The Block's Kelvin Sparks and Hypha Founder Steven Gates were joined by Ava Labs General Counsel Lee Schneider and Plume General Counsel Salman Benaei, to discuss how the Senate bill turns crypto's legal foundation from sand to stone, and what that means for the next generation of builders.

OUTLINE

00:00 - Introduction

01:28 - Salman's Path: CFTC to Crypto

05:52 - Lee on Token Sales & Legal Structures

08:17 - RWA Rights & Disclosures

12:26 - What Buyers Should Care About

15:15 - Pre-IPO Tokenized Shares

18:49 - The Governance Token Question

22:03 - The Decentralization Test Debate

28:13 - What Clarity Means for Builders

36:41 - TradFi's Crypto Play

44:31 - Open vs Closed Networks

51:20 - Outro

Host/Guest links:

Salman Banaei - https://x.com/banamlas

Lee Schneider - https://x.com/leelaughs5x

Steven Gates - ⁠⁠twitter.com/stvngts⁠⁠

Kelvin Sparks - ⁠⁠twitter.com/imyoungsparks⁠⁠

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Show Notes

In episode five of Layer One, The Block's Kelvin Sparks and Hypha Founder Steven Gates were joined by Ava Labs General Counsel Lee Schneider and Plume General Counsel Salman Benaei, to discuss how the Senate bill turns crypto's legal foundation from sand to stone, and what that means for the next generation of builders.


OUTLINE

00:00 - Introduction

01:28 - Salman's Path: CFTC to Crypto

05:52 - Lee on Token Sales & Legal Structures

08:17 - RWA Rights & Disclosures

12:26 - What Buyers Should Care About

15:15 - Pre-IPO Tokenized Shares

18:49 - The Governance Token Question

22:03 - The Decentralization Test Debate

28:13 - What Clarity Means for Builders

36:41 - TradFi's Crypto Play

44:31 - Open vs Closed Networks

51:20 - Outro


Host/Guest links:

Salman Banaei - https://x.com/banamlas

Lee Schneider - https://x.com/leelaughs5x

Steven Gates - ⁠⁠twitter.com/stvngts⁠⁠

Kelvin Sparks - ⁠⁠twitter.com/imyoungsparks⁠⁠

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🚨 Breaking News

👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis

📈 Market Insights

Subscribe now 👉 ⁠⁠https://www.theblock.co/newsletters⁠⁠


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What is Layer One?

The Layer One podcast, created in collaboration with Avalanche, features co-hosts Kelvin Sparks and John Wu as they unpack the real forces driving the crypto market forward.

Through candid conversations with the industry’s true movers and shakers, the show delivers clear, grounded insights that cut through the noise.