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What does the future of
roofing sales hold for?

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Well, in this video I'm gonna share
with you my three predictions on the

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future of roofing sales, and I believe
that these changes are going to be

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occurring within the next 36 months.

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That's right.

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These three big changes will impact you
and me both over the next three years.

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Now, as I lay these out, some of
the stuff might be a little scary,

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but I don't want you to feel afraid.

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And the reason.

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With change, we can either jump on the
wave and surf it and be in the forefront,

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or we can let that wave crash through
us and we're left there tumbling on the

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bottom of the ocean, getting smacked into
the, into the sand or into the coral reef,

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and watch everybody else coasting that
wave, having a good old time pass us by.

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And by the way, being slammed
on the bottom of the ocean

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under a wave, not very pleasant.

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Been there.

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Hey, welcome or welcome back.

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My name is Adam Besman, the roof
strategist, and everything I do here on

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my channel is designed to help you and
your team smash your income goal and give

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every customer an amazing experience.

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And I've had the opportunity to
help thousands of sales reps just

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like you overcome the same sales
challenges that you're probably facing.

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in the video description below.

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All right, my prediction of the few,
uh, the, the biggest three changes that

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we're gonna face and, and I invite you,
please drop a comment, share your thoughts

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whether you agree, whether you disagree,
and what items that I may have missed.

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Now, full disclosure, I've shot
this video about five times.

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And I've trimmed it to the, to the main
three that I think are, are really the

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things that we need to be focused on.

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So let's skip the fluff and
jump right in, shall we?

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All right.

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Number one prediction.

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I see an emerging trend in private
equity in corporatization coming

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into the roofing industry, we
see people gobbling up companies.

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We see other companies merging
with other companies, and.

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I believe just like our utility
companies are trying to create

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these, uh, monopolistic practices,
I see this coming with the.

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Roofing industry, there's all
of this money coming in, and

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with that money, we see massive
technological advancements now.

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So the future of roofing sales, you're
like, Dude, you just wrote the word

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technology, so I wanna break this down.

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What kind of technology
am I talking about?

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I believe in the next three years, we
are going to see people moving into

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systems to, to try to sell a roof online.

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We're looking for ways to cut the, they're
looking for ways to cut sales people out.

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How do we eliminate our, one of our
biggest expenses, which is roofing?

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Salespeople that earn a commission.

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And I know that there are
people developing in, working on

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methods to sell a roof online.

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And again, remember I said
there's nothing really to be.

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So I want to ask, especially to all of
my storm restoration contractors out

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there, think I want you to ask yourself
this question, What percentage of the

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roofs that I sell does the homeowner
say when you first approach them?

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I don't have any problem with my roof.

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I dunno what you're talking about.

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Now for most companies, that's between 70
to 90%, which means 70 to 90% of people

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don't even know they have a problem.

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We're in direct sales.

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We show up at their house to
help them identify the problems

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they weren't even aware of.

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And this is why I think, and it drives
me nuts, I see people that are like,

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Adam, oh, storm sales isn't real sales.

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And I'm like, Oh, it's not.

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You mean?

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Anyone can show up at a stranger's house
unannounced with no brand recognition

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and get an opportunity to hop up on
the roof when they think the roof

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is fine, show them that they have a
problem, and then get them to take

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action on that problem and end up with
a contract for 20 some thousand dollars.

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That's pretty wild, in my opinion.

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Some restoration contractors, they
have cut their teeth in one of the most

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challenging types of sales, yet for some
reason, people push back on me and I

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always wanna say, Oh, it's not that hard.

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Then by all means, teach me the way.

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Show me.

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They're just afraid to do it and
people, it, it, I could go on and on.

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So my point is, yes, this will happen.

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There will be a new Amazon Roofing
is getting commoditized and people

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will be able to shop for roof.

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And those people, that market
segment on the, uh, level of

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awareness, if we look my, my.

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Estimation of the market is that
about 70% of the roofing industry

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in the US is driven by severe
weather, hail, wind, or hurricane.

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When we see pretty much everywhere from
Arizona and Utah, all the way up through

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the Midwest, through the Dakotas in every
single state up until about Pennsylvania,

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straight south, that main segment.

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Majority of the market
is driven by storms.

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We get states like California,
Washington, Oregon, and in the northeast.

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Those places don't get storms
in the same frequency, but they

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still get some specifically
severe weather being on the coast.

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Now, the reason I say that is if we
look at the market, I'm gonna say

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that, oops, let me erase that here.

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I'm gonna predict, and, and by the way,
this is where I'm looking for, for you

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to say, agree, disagree, push back.

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That's all good.

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If we were to carve out a
segment, I'm gonna say that storm.

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takes up about this much of the market.

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Here we've got retail, These
are elective roof replacements.

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And then again, we've got,
within retail, we can grab out

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a sliver of new construction.

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So in fact, let's do that right now
because the buy roof online people,

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that's not gonna impact new construction.

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That's a whole different kele of fish.

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These systems are designed
to sell, um, sell roofs to

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people who know they need it.

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So we got retail and then we
have, I'm just gonna write new.

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Construction there.

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So this technology I don't believe is
gonna impact the store market as much.

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Emerging technologies to
identify damage, speed up the

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process, all that will impact us.

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But I'm not super concerned about the
technology to cut the sales person out

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because generally speaking, these folks
don't even know they have a problem.

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We got the retail market.

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People who jump online need a
new roof, New roof replacement.

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Yeah, this could.

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Retail folks more, which
again, we still serve.

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But I just wanted to paint this picture
of what I see in the market and why people

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that say Adam do more stuff on retail.

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I do a lot on retail, but I'm gonna be
frank with you on YouTube, it doesn't

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perform as well cuz most people are
capitalizing on storms and the only

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time they're turning into retail is
when there's not a lot of storms.

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And a good company should
be able to handle both.

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All right, so there's my prediction on
the technology side, the main thing.

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A bunch of money coming in, private
equity coming in, technology companies

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growing, and the capability of companies
that are out there now exceeding

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to make the process faster and to
cut the salesperson out, all right?

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That's the main thing.

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Cutting the salesperson out.

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How do we sell a roof online?

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How do we estimate on autopilot?

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How do we present automatically?

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And how do we give the homeowner control
to, to select their options and go?

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And again, I do believe this will
be often a race to the bottom

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because on a big decision for
someone being in someone's home.

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I think there's gonna be some
market adaptation until people

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are even comfortable saying,
I bought this roof online.

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I didn't talk to anyone until I literally
gave a deposit for a $20,000 system.

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10 grand Uhuh.

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I just, there's gonna be some
human element involved and I think

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that we've got some time to adapt.

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So there we have it.

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Number one is technology Now, number.

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. And by the way, again, drop in the
comments if you agree or disagree.

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If you think this number is totally
skewed, I'd love to hear from you.

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This is my, what I've seen from
serving folks in every state, but,

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uh, your opinion matters, so drop it.

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All right.

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When I say drop it, I mean in the
comments, not drop your opinion.

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All right.

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Number two, what I see is price pressure.

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Now I'm gonna break this down
to both storm and retail.

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What do I mean by price pressure,
uh, at today's current, at

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the time of this record?

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, we've got some supply chain issues.

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We have material availability issues, and
we have the cost of roofing skyrocketing.

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When I got into the business in
2011, we were fighting to get 300 a

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square and that same market today is
selling at six 50 to 6 75 a square.

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Now that doubling more than
doubling of that price took a

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bit over a decade, but in today's
economy, we are seeing seven to 12.

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Percent price increases on raw
material per quarter, which means

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that the cost of roofing is compound.

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Pretty much four times faster
than the stock market, and who

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knows what that's gonna look like.

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The result of this is that the
price of roofing is going to

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double is two x per five years.

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That's about the projection that I've
shaken out with the math meaning.

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If someone decides today, Hey, I
don't wanna do my roof, I can get

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five years more out of it, you're
gonna see that the cost of that

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roof will double in five years.

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Uh, at today's rates, a $15,000
roof is going to be about $5,000

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more if they wait a year at 7%.

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And then at 12%, that number shoots
up to almost $9,000 on a $15,000 roof.

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Yeah, you heard me right?

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And if you want more on that, click up
here and watch this video on urgency.

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Creating real urgency true to life.

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Urgency and getting homeowners
to take action now and not

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punting the roof down the road.

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We'll do it later.

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We'll do it later.

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Cuz the truth is they're gonna be
spending just in a year, five to

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$9,000 more for the exact same roof.

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And it's not like they're getting
some fancy new phone, right?

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Same roof, same color options.

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So those price pressures.

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I believe are going to impact the roofing
space because we're gonna have to get

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creative on our financing solutions.

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But then we have storms,
so let's talk about that.

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I believe that we are going to see
pressure from insurance companies both

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on policy coverage and deductibles.

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Okay.

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What we're already seeing, by the way,
is coverage on the, um, uh, roof surface.

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We're seeing exclusions, we're
seeing special deductibles

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for hail, wind, or hurricane.

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Um, and I do do believe
that's gonna gonna continue.

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D Duck de bull.

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Sorry, I can't spell and
talk at the same time.

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This price pressure is
gonna have to, to, to.

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Have us adapt on how we serve and what
we offer, including financing as well

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as option number three, which I'll
be talking about here in a minute.

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Price pressure, retail
price pressure insurance.

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We got pressure on the retail side from
the, the industry at large, and then we

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have pressure on the insurance side due
to these rising costs and rising claims.

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With coverage and deductible issues,
the insurance companies are trying

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to cut themselves out, and we're also
seeing that they're trying to pay less.

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Right?

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We're seeing this a lot on carriers, the
common claims, and in fact, uh, at the

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time of this filming, we're bringing a
special guest into the Pitch Pro movement.

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Uh, drew subtle with total scope to
talk about dealing with this stuff.

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So, um, yeah.

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It's common.

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I post it in the group.

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What do you want Drew to cover?

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Main thing, coverage,
disputes, lack of coverage.

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Playing games on not paying
out, moving to other platforms

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outside of Xactimate to estimate.

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So if you're interested in that, by
the way, and you do end up becoming a

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Pitch Pro movement member, if there's
links in the description, um, that

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recording will be available for you.

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So that's number two is price, pressure.

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And then the biggest threat.

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Number three is, it's funny, it's a
threat, but it's also an opportunity.

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And it starts with an ask.

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Can you guess it?

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Solar.

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All right.

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Now I'll tell you first.

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I was very resistant.

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I, I posted, in fact, in some of the
industry Facebook groups do believe in

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solar to the people who are selling it.

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And surprisingly to me, I was shock.

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Most salespeople didn't believe
in the economics of solar

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to do it on their own home.

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I sat through presentations,
I'm like, Ah, I ain't into this.

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And it wasn't until I started to uncover
a new way to do solar, to integrate

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solar with a roofing company for both
retail and storm that it really clicked.

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And through learning this have helped
the company, uh, end up doubling their

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revenue in 90 days, going from 1.2.

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Per month to about 2.5 million per month
end growing by integrating the two.

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And in fact, we actually just had a
gentleman inside the Pitch Pro movement.

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Cause we had our first solar
sales training session in

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the pitch pro movement.

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And I'm pulling up this,
uh, this image right now.

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He says to me, he goes, uh,
another 22 kilowatt system closed.

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That's 42 kilowatts in two days.

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Check this out.

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Uh, homeowner.

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Homeowner getting a
roof paid by insurance.

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After he called me out to look at it,
the repair job turned into $120,000 sale.

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You see that pretty, pretty nuts.

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So what we see is through these
financing vessels provided by solar,

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we're able to have a competitive edge
by integrating not roof and solar, but

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I want you to think of roof with solar.

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But the problem is the confusion.

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Sales reps don't know what
to sell, how to sell it.

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Am I pitching solar or
roofs and integrating these?

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Usually ends up where companies fail.

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The sales rep runs around,
what do I sell today?

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Do I lead with roof?

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Do I lead with solar?

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And then the deals fall apart
and they don't have a hook.

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There's no urgency.

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And it truly is an art cuz this is,
the solar sale is a bit more complex.

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It really, it's financial arbitrage.

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It's that simple.

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But you can't say to homeowner, Don't
worry, I got a great arbitrage product.

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They don't get that.

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So we need to learn how to communicate
and, and I think that in the next

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three years, if companies aren't
doing solar with their roofs,

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they're gonna start losing deals
to competitors who can offer better

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financing options opened up by solar.

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Who homeowners are gonna want solar
due to the new tax credits at 30%?

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And due to the domestic manufacturing
tax credits, that can bump that up to a

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40% tax credit, if that, uh, system is.

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, um, excuse me, if the, uh, uh, raw
manufacturing is done in the us.

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So if panels are made in the
US and there's all these little

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nuances, but uh, again, that's
a deeper discovery for later.

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And then you have state tax incentives
on top of it, which means, like in

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Illinois, there are some circumstances
that you can get at 50 or above 50%.

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Tax deductible systems.

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So if your company or you are not in a
position or know how to sell solar, offer

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solar the right way to win more business
and, and truly double your business.

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I do think that you will struggle in our
market because again, solar, when we can

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turn an insurance claim into a roof solar
combo, we're really in an amazing spot

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for that homeowner and I'll share more.

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And in fact, I have my new solar sales
system, uh, being released very, very

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soon now, we've been behind the scenes.

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Rolling this out with this one company,
again, going from 1.2 million a

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month to, uh, 2.5 million a month in
rising, You saw what what Marcos was

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able to do by bringing a repair into
$120,000 sale for roof solar combo.

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And in fact, the last company, we just
rolled this out, they sold a $39,000

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solar system on top of a $35,000 roof.

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And that was also an insurance claim.

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So there you have it.

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My three big predictions for
what I think we're gonna see

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putting pressure on our in.

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Don't worry, we can't adapt.

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Number one is gonna be technology
attempting to cut the salesperson

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out by automating certain processes.

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I do believe that we have a large part
portion of the market that will be the

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last to adapt, and I don't think that the
human element will be removed entirely.

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I do think that our roles might
change in time, but time will tell.

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Number two is price, pressure
from the retail market.

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With the cost of goods skyrocketing
through inflation, material

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availability, and oil prices.

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Then on the insurance side, we
got our coverage issues and we're

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gonna need to adapt on that front.

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And the final piece here is solar.

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We'll need to, at some point
jump on board and learn how to.

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Integrate this model or we're gonna get
left behind as our competitors offer

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solutions that we simply cannot touch.

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And there you have it.

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Now what did I miss?

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What predictions do you have
over the next three years?

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How do you think our
industry's gonna change?

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And what, what threats
do you think we face?

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Share your comments below so we
can use this to all grow together.

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And that's what I love
about the community here.

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And thank you for being such a
valuable part of it in investing

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your time with me today.

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Now, just cuz our time here is about,
Up doesn't mean your and my time has to.

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So if you haven't yet done it,
hop in right here and download a

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free copy in my pitch, like a pro
roofing sales training video library.

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And if you didn't do it, watch
this video here on urgency to talk

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about those price increases to get
homeowners over the edge to buy a

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roof now and not wait a year or more.

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And believe me, you're gonna
provide better service, have happier

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customers, and win more business.

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That's all for now, and I
will see you on the next one.