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song in this world you only need one song
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philanthropist I take it nothing never
giving up on the love tip let your light

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shine like the sunshine a celebration no
separation you got a love song I got a

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love song we in the love song

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Hello lovely people.

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This is Stacey Frazier pronouns are she
and they I really appreciate you tuning in

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to Koope radio co -op radio and the
monthly show That I host called racism on

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the levels this is part of the Austin
Cooperative Radio Hour collective and the

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purpose of the show is how

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to explore how the man -made construct of
race operates at the internal,

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interpersonal, cultural, institutional,
and systemic levels with a focus on

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creative possibilities for a liberated
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I am a justice movement weaver, a
facilitator, a guide, a Kingian

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nonviolence trainer, and mother to a
radiant five -year -old named Rumi.

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This show's purpose is to hold space.

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for storytelling, information sharing with
greater Austin area folks who center

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equity, liberation, justice, and
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Be they healers, guides, storytellers,
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visionaries, builders, caregivers, and or
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Shout out to Deepa Iyer for framing these
roles within the social change map.

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So the views expressed here are not
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Directors, staff, volunteers, or
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We are broadcasting recorded on stolen
indigenous land and indigenous people, the

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Tonkoa, the Coiltacan, Comanche, Sana,
Humanos, and many other peoples faced

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inconceivable losses and attempted a ratio
due to violent settler colonialism.

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and this show centers justice.

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So I want to take a moment as I do every
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you to think about how you can engage in
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So my show today, I originally had two
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One guest is here in spirit.

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Hi, Rochelle out there.

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Hopefully you're tuning in.

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So I'm gonna be the messenger for an
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and also to play one of Rochelle Tyrell's
songs and later in the show.

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Sitting here in the flesh next to me is
Tyra Clark.

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So Tyra, welcome to the show and thank you
for coming and holding space with me

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today.

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Peace and blessings.

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Thank you so so much Stacey for having me
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Thank you.

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So we're going to dive into your work,
Tyra, momentarily, but I do want to put on

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folks radar a couple of upcoming community
events and announcements.

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The first actually came from Rochelle
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in person, but this event is happening
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It is HEAL.

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It's the first annual health.

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Equity Advocacy and Leadership Summit.

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Houston Tillotson University from eight to
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Health Equity Advocacy Leadership,
Cultivating Authentic Collaboration for

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Health Equity Initiatives within Medicare
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implementing practical strategies to
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So I invite you to take a look at that.

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You can register online, hcdi .com forward
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hcdi .com forward slash heel.

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So that is announcement number one.

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And then number two is one of my
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White Supremacy Austin is hosting an
evening, a screening of Ava DuVernay's

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Origin, which is a film inspired by
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Our Discontent.

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It's at East Side Cinema on Hargrave
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If you are tickets are $12 if we don't
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to attend so Go ahead and feel free to
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to to get Subsidy for for that don't want
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there and be in community with us My email
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All right, so let's move into our
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So please introduce yourself, the pieces
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relevant to today's conversation.

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We were just having that talk about, all
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of my identity am I gonna wear today?

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So share any parts of your identity that
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as that will serve our conversation.

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Thank you for this gentle space and time.

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So yeah, which part of my identity do many
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But I do want to start off saying that I'm
Austin, Austin Rays.

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Shout out to my Maplewood Mustangs, Oh
Henry Mustangs.

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I'm also Austin High alumni.

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deep roots in Austin.

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And I sort of hail from what used to be
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That's where my ancestors come from, my
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And then as I've grown and the family has
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How can we uplift people?

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the Blackland community once upon a time
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space in Austin where Black business
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care of their community in a reasonable
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And so, but we, it took a village and
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Gentrification and displacement has taken
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back in the day.

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So since I come from that, I'm trying to
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people who are, you know, their quality of
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them a hand up, you know, because that's
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So just sorry, I have a long route, but
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to keep on rolling up my sleeves and get
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Yeah, if you hadn't said it, it would have
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So what are your Austin roots and what is
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Black land neighborhood.

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I am reading a very interesting book that
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It's called Shadows of a Sunbelt City, the
Environment, Racism and the Knowledge

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Economy in Austin.

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It is by Elliott Treder.

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It's available at Austin Public Library to
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talks about the Blackland neighborhood and
how the University of Texas acquired and

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was responsible for developing most of the
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lot of Black folks from that specific
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So yeah, Shadows of a Sunbelt City.

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I'm reading it right now.

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So yeah, absolutely.

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So you said you're...

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Grandparent, grandfather.

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Long line here.

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And then my mother, who's a phenomenal
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She's a pastor here in the city and
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spiritual work.

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She took on his mantle.

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You know, I kind of took on hers as with
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But for sure, it started with the
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set the tone for, you know, how we're
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village, you know, and take responsibility
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I appreciate that.

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So let's turn to your organizing interests
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start jumping wherever.

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As far as interest goes, I'm a hybrid.

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I, by trade, do mental and behavioral
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I've worked with, and I apologize for the
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worked with probationers of the state in
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I've worked with at -risk youth.

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So I guess my interests are people, and
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who need help working out the knots.

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Maybe there's something in their life that
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whatever reason, have a knack for that.

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And also enjoy help, you know, because
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least for me anyway, it also helps me.

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I'm learning and stepping into my calling
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So I'm interested in people, mental and
behavioral health, and then I'm also

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interested in film.

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production of a mid -career writer
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I didn't used to be a name dropper, but
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I've, I work with Martin Jones.

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He's the studio director here and for
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And certain lines of work that have
interned for director Rich, director

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Richard Linklater and just a lot of really
cool stuff in the community to sort of

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bolster the production, the film
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So film production, mental health,
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every now and then.

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But those are for sure the interests.

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And they're heavier interests, they're
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but those are what helps me, you know,
help my heart and my mind grow for sure.

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Yeah, thank you for that.

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I'll invite a reframe on the name dropping
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What it is, really, it's also giving
flowers to evoke Kydada and Shaka from

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Writers Against the Store.

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Flowers for the Living.

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I mean, let's give flowers for the living,
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And so that's it.

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And now, since we're waxing here, because
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a plant parent to a lot of plants and I
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So, you know, I show up as a human being
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So I am a busy bee and I am like spreading
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name dropping is cross pollinating.

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And we have a lot of audience members and
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have a lot of programming dedicated to
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So thank you for doing that because you're
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mentioning.

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I love that.

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Ooh, I like that reframe.

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Hey, we're just handing each other gifts.

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The master at work.

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All right.

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So, so the show.

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Yeah, go for it.

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Feel free.

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I have an open source Creative Commons.

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The, now we're having too much fun, I
gotta focus.

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So this show is called Racism on the
Levels and you know, racism is a

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pervasive, sticky, seemingly everlasting,
I can't wait to not have a show called

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this, everything of the past, but what in
your racial identity, in your racial

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background, in your communities, why do
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feel the need to do what you do and how
can that address some of the ills that

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racism has brought upon people?

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Definitely, it's such a good question.

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So I've actually firsthand personally
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And I hate to say this, because I love my
city and this town, and it's growing and

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redesigning itself.

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But Austin has, it's come a long way, you
know, but in this particular town,

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especially since the 1928 master plan,
which I'm not sure too many people are

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familiar with that.

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But the structural racism and then, you
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experienced, and when I say structural
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and the gentrification.

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In fact, my family, my grandpa, he used to
have a Piggly Wiggly, he used to have a

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Piggly Wiggly shop where he played his
piano and gave people food.

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right there off of Mayna Road.

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It's now the Salty Sal, but that used to
be our home, you know?

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So little things like that, right?

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And then of course, racism was also just
recently, Austin made racism a public

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health crisis, like an issue.

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They've acknowledged that.

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It affects our health.

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So, um, I know you have to, I mean, it's
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I mean, formally, right.

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That oppression is obvious, right?

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Captain obvious.

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When you, when you are shut out of, you
know, resources and, um, you, there's,

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there's things, there's things taken from
you and your life, your quality of life is

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compromised.

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It's heavy stress, you know, it's
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which is also where I step in with that
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access to resources or you've lost your
home or you've lost your job because of

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some discrimination.

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And of course that's extreme, but that's,
that is what happens.

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And,

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And what do you do when racism is the
insidious underbelly of these things that

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are happening in our lives that we are
muted on a little bit, so to speak, or

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just trying to be like, hey y 'all, y 'all
see this, this is real and don't Nobody

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likes to talk about racism in a party.

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Like, hey y 'all, let's talk about racism
tonight.

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But we're gonna talk about it.

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Yeah.

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As long as we have access to bikes.

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Right.

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That's what we're doing here.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So it's in there.

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It's a fabric.

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Yeah.

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It's here.

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And I, yesterday I went to a rally and I
got to give Brother Cornell West a 90

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second bear hug.

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And that was so filling to my heart.

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So I'm going to use his words on this
because he, he, he, he says, you know, it

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doesn't just.

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affect the chocolate community, it affects
the vanilla community.

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And I am a vanilla flavored person.

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And so this racism is toxic to everybody.

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Everybody, it's different ways and I'm not
saying it's equal.

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So I'm just gonna like be very explicit
about that.

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But in order to not confront and work to
create actively alternatives, that...

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is absolutely toxic to a vanilla bodied
person.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There is no humanity in racism at all.

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Solace.

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Yeah, there is it.

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I'm glad you brought that up too, because
it's not, yeah, we all have different

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vantage points and perspectives and I
can't diminish or, or minimize someone's

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experience just because of the color of
their skin.

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We all have

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most of us have been through some type of
process where it violated us and racism,

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although it's kind of elusive sometimes,
if you're not educated or aware, it might

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roll right over you.

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And that's why I saw, actually another
reason why I've just, as I've grown, I'm

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becoming more civic minded because you
can't, at some point you do have to

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challenge it.

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you know, and say, hey, like this is, this
is happening.

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And it also might be happening to my
sister, my brother, or my friends, no

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matter what we look like.

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And we, we have to stand as a united front
and, and be, um, if we can't do anything

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like monetarily or depending on your
circumstances, then we could at least

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like, in my instance, I've, you know,
we're me and myself and, uh, another young

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lady who's awesome here, Maria Brown
Spence.

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we came up with a project that will tackle
some of these issues that you just, you

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know, we just didn't see people trying to
tackle racism through the grief law space

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like we have, but you know, that's our
solution, that's our resolution.

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Hey, can't do the work on a national scale
maybe, but on a hyper local level, here's

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our take on sort of combating racism.

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on all sides, diverse perspectives.

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So tell me if I came up with this
terminology on the way over here or if you

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use this in your narrative about your
project.

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I was thinking, okay, for social media,
what is this?

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What are we talking about today?

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And I was like, we're talking about grief
justice.

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Yeah.

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Do you use grief justice as, as a
terminology because

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It's a social justice issue too, but yeah,
for sure.

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So for sure.

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So what is, what does racial justice look
like in grief and healing?

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Racial justice and grief and healing.

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Um, I think it's a bit of, well, with
grief, it's disenfranchised.

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When you experience grief, it can feel
disenfranchising.

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Um...

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You can feel left out and looked over and
depleted and, cause grief is so

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multifaceted.

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So the grief justice work or the social
justice work is really just like

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illuminating, suppressed, repressed voices
that have experienced certain levels of

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disenfranchisement.

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that are sometimes most times connected to
racism and exposing that talking about it

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getting some therapy in place or tools
equipping the folks that were serving

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through this project giving them tools to
be able to Fight back for lack of a better

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term, but just do the work through the
grief and to overcome some of the stuff

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that's

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sort of blowing in the wind with all of
the challenges they're coming up against

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with the racism.

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Yeah.

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So, um, or maybe in other words to reclaim
their power, reclaim their power.

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Absolutely.

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That that disempowerment may have happened
due to racial trauma.

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So it's, it's yeah.

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Reclaiming power in that way.

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Absolutely.

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And another big grief justice work, a part
of grief is now more than ever, because

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homelessness is exploding, but
displacements and gentrification.

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And then the loss of financial resource or
economic resources has been the biggest

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compromise with the grief social work.

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Because with grief, grief is you can lose
anything.

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Oh, sorry, grief, you can lose anything.

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You can not just something tangible.

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The intangibles are there too.

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So yeah, we try to give them what they
need to have the talking points to with

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the trauma that they're trying to unravel
and recover from and then give them some

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hope.

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Like I think with this work, you need to
be anchored in hope and then you need to

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know that there's some restitution coming.

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you know, there's some type of healing
coming.

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You just have to, you get it.

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You get that healing when you're in the
trenches doing the work, you know?

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So yeah, this is.

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Yeah.

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The work is the medicine.

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The work is the medicine.

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Yes.

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The work is the medicine.

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If you're just joining us, you are tuned
into racism on the levels.

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And my guest today is Tyra Clark.

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And Tyra is, Tyra and I are discussing,
well first went through Tyra's deep, deep

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roots.

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back to her grandpa who ran a store on
Maynard and Blackland and man that sounds.

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Robert Fudd Shaw, Texas Bear House Blues
player if y 'all ever want to look him up.

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Yes, thank you for that.

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So we are talking about you talked about
your film interests and backgrounds.

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So tell me how Change Grief came about as
a project and what it is.

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For sure.

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I think we kind of did cart before the
horse on that a little bit.

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So what is change grief?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And this is great now.

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So change grief and shout out to Maria
Brown Spence who's my partner in this

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change grief project and and really the
lead Maria is she's a veteran here and she

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owns the locally.

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Uh, she, she owns the, um, nonprofit, I'm
sorry, the grief loss nonprofit chain, uh,

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hearts to heal.

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I was supposed to call it change.

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Um, the founder, the, she's the founder of
hearts to heal a local, uh, grassroots

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nonprofit here in Austin.

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And in fact, I want to say, and I could be
wrong on this, but I think she's the only

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black owned grief loss, uh, nonprofit
resource here.

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I could be wrong, but she, or she's one of
few.

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Um, so that's another, uh, really.

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pivotal reason why I wanted to connect
with Maria, just because of the space

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she's in.

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I know the grief loss landscape,
especially for communities, for

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underrepresented communities and
communities of color, the grief loss

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landscape is, there's lack there, there's
lack of supplies, there's lack of

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resources, there's lack of information and
education.

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So we teamed up to sort of build the
capacity in this space and her and I met

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back when.

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2020 when the pandemic hit and did some
community, really community counseling, we

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did just an open forum for folks to join
as a pain when the pandemic hit.

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And I think when snow bed hit, we just,
through the black leaders collective,

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which her and I are a part of, we were
able to open up a space where people could

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just vent about what's going on with them.

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And that was nice.

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And then through that process, her and I
decided to,

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I guess stick together.

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She reached out to me and said, Hey, I
have this idea about a change grief

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project and I really, you know, I think
you should be on and we should take it

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here.

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And, and so it was her idea because she's
in this space and we've worked together

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before and then we're aligned both her and
I do mental health and behavioral health

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work.

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So it just made complete sense to, to
stick with this, uh, you know, latch onto

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this, stick it out and then build on it
together.

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And then Change Grief Project is really
about, it's an organic community grief

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project.

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It's about meeting people where they're at
and changing the way we talk about grief.

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So, you know, not, it's not, it shouldn't
be taboo.

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You shouldn't be grappling with the
nuances of grief individually or alone.

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It should also be in community.

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And,

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A lot of us have gotten away from that
reality because we've been stripped of

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community because of the pandemic.

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Thank you, pandemic.

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And our, and our worlds have been
shattered and we might not know how to get

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back to community the way we should to
sort of, you know, just, um, help

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conversations like this grow and
strengthen us.

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Yeah.

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And there's a racial overlay on that
because who didn't have access to the

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testing, who didn't have access to the
information when the pandemic hit.

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So.

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You just hit on something right there
relevant to the show.

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So we're going to be right back.

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We got to pause for station traffic and
we'll pick it back up.

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Awesome.

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My guest today is Tyra Clark.

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And we are talking about grief and loss
and racial justice around that and the

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work that Tyra is doing in the community.

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in collaboration with Hearts to Heal and
the Change Grief Project, which I want to

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continue to shine a light on and elevate
for folks.

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So prior to the break, but also I want to
give a shout out to my friend Shoyinka

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Rahim, who has from the get -go provided
as a gift her music for this show.

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And so you were just listening to Yum
Vibrations by Shoyinka Rahim.

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Shoinka and you can find Shoinka online.

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She is her project is Bebo Love, B -I -B
-O Love and that's short for Breathe In

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Breathe Out, Bebo Love and it's meditative
and it's powerful and it's guttural and

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you're gonna keep hearing Shoinka's music
on my show.

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So the Change Grief Project we were...

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we were at the origin and we made it to
the pandemic and where did you go from

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there?

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Yes.

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So we started the creative development
process project, because I'm laughing

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because if you know anything about grief,
it's a life.

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It's a life.

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long things sometimes, that there's no
time limit on how much you how long you

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grieve for something.

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And it's a heavy topic.

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It's a it's heavy subject matter.

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So like racism.

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Yeah.

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Like you don't show up to a party and say,
let's talk about grief.

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Exactly.

467
00:36:30,706 --> 00:36:32,746
It's both laugh or cry.

468
00:36:32,746 --> 00:36:33,366
That's right.

469
00:36:33,366 --> 00:36:34,366
That's right.

470
00:36:34,386 --> 00:36:35,286
That's right.

471
00:36:35,286 --> 00:36:36,316
Laugh and cry.

472
00:36:36,316 --> 00:36:37,186
Laugh and cry.

473
00:36:37,186 --> 00:36:38,726
And that's the full spectrum.

474
00:36:38,726 --> 00:36:43,006
The joy and the pain, which is the bedrock
of grief.

475
00:36:44,006 --> 00:36:46,206
But yes, it's heavy subject matter.

476
00:36:46,206 --> 00:36:52,206
So the creative development process we
took on this project has been extensive,

477
00:36:52,206 --> 00:36:57,614
you know, like three, four years into or
two, three years actually into the making.

478
00:36:57,614 --> 00:37:04,094
And we're finally at a space where we can,
we just recently, we're about to launch a

479
00:37:04,094 --> 00:37:11,094
kind of like soft launch promo,
promotional portrait spotlight series for

480
00:37:11,094 --> 00:37:12,334
this project.

481
00:37:12,594 --> 00:37:18,834
But portrait light series, we took
pictures of community members who had deep

482
00:37:18,834 --> 00:37:21,494
repressed stories that we wanted to
highlight.

483
00:37:21,554 --> 00:37:26,474
And we worked with Lita Harrison, who's a
great photographer here in town.

484
00:37:27,310 --> 00:37:29,310
who helped us get that done.

485
00:37:29,310 --> 00:37:32,630
But through the creative development
process, we've been able to launch, soft

486
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:38,750
launch a portrait series and then finally
dip into or start the docu -series portion

487
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:45,770
of this changed grief project, which it
should be, it's gonna be about four part

488
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:47,190
series.

489
00:37:47,310 --> 00:37:51,770
And we're just going to, and this is all
since the pandemic up until now, Maria and

490
00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:52,870
I have.

491
00:37:53,454 --> 00:37:55,354
really chiseled it down.

492
00:37:55,354 --> 00:38:00,014
Like, you know, this is how we're going to
tell this story and highlight voices and

493
00:38:00,014 --> 00:38:00,634
faces.

494
00:38:00,634 --> 00:38:06,974
And it's going to be, you know, a portrait
series so people can can talk about it on

495
00:38:06,974 --> 00:38:08,674
their own time.

496
00:38:09,394 --> 00:38:11,714
A docu -series so they can watch it on
their own time.

497
00:38:11,714 --> 00:38:14,014
And then we're also we also have community
connections.

498
00:38:14,014 --> 00:38:18,094
So throughout the year, people could come
and actually will do grief work, will hold

499
00:38:18,094 --> 00:38:20,214
space for support groups for free.

500
00:38:20,214 --> 00:38:22,510
You know, this is extremely accessible.

501
00:38:22,510 --> 00:38:28,140
Because that's one thing not just grief or
racism will do is it will it's a barrier.

502
00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:34,530
It will shut you out of things and the
downward spiral is initiated.

503
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:41,030
So, you know, to combat that and to make a
positive turn spin on things we have

504
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:44,730
different points people can connect with
with the projects.

505
00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:46,520
And that's just through the creative
conversations.

506
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,550
We're like, hey, we want to make sure that
everyone gets a taste and a.

507
00:38:49,550 --> 00:38:53,290
piece of this, no matter what time they
come in on the project, they'll still be

508
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:57,530
able to get the healing conversations they
need and heal through art, which is

509
00:38:57,530 --> 00:39:00,490
another thing we're trying to sort of
highlight.

510
00:39:00,490 --> 00:39:09,990
Art is a form of, it's a form of healing,
yes, but it's also when you can express

511
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:16,030
yourself in a raw way, in an unapologetic
way, you'll be able to...

512
00:39:17,166 --> 00:39:24,246
You know thrive become a high functioning
citizen and turn your life around Yeah, so

513
00:39:24,246 --> 00:39:30,926
um and to Or help the next person, you
know, yeah, because I think that's when we

514
00:39:30,926 --> 00:39:39,326
do Survive through what we've been through
and can give back This is a part of that

515
00:39:39,326 --> 00:39:44,646
process to the project is meant to sort of
empower and liberate and give people the

516
00:39:44,646 --> 00:39:46,510
courage to

517
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:53,010
Tell their story and then from there the
chain reaction is You know each one teach

518
00:39:53,010 --> 00:39:57,470
one, you know, we'll lift up the next
person and then the recovery begins each

519
00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:58,810
one teach one I love that.

520
00:39:58,810 --> 00:40:05,250
So, um, I was looking over to my comrade
michelle manning scott who's running the

521
00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:12,770
board graciously as always, um for these
conversations and uh rachelle terrelle who

522
00:40:12,770 --> 00:40:13,830
was

523
00:40:14,126 --> 00:40:19,006
going to be on the show today is a great
example of what you're describing because

524
00:40:19,006 --> 00:40:24,986
this show's concept, this episode's
concept came about through me casting

525
00:40:24,986 --> 00:40:33,246
Annette out to my network saying I'm
looking for a guest who centers BIPOC and

526
00:40:33,246 --> 00:40:35,006
disability justice.

527
00:40:35,026 --> 00:40:39,986
And since music is one of my other
concentric circles of communities, Pat

528
00:40:39,986 --> 00:40:43,694
Bukta said Rochelle, Rochelle New Music.

529
00:40:43,694 --> 00:40:49,774
So Rochelle and I connected and Rochelle
told me about, and I'm not gonna tell

530
00:40:49,774 --> 00:40:56,414
Rochelle's story, I'm gonna let Rochelle
tell her own story when we can reschedule,

531
00:40:56,414 --> 00:41:06,214
but it was out of grief, grieving and
caring for her father that was the

532
00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:11,054
catalyst for a lot of the music that she
is creating and putting out in the world.

533
00:41:11,054 --> 00:41:16,734
And so right before we went on air, she
sent me a track and I want to play that

534
00:41:16,734 --> 00:41:17,554
right now.

535
00:41:17,554 --> 00:41:19,184
It's a small track.

536
00:41:19,184 --> 00:41:22,974
I'm not sure if it's a whole, if it's an
excerpt or the full track, but it's Bevo

537
00:41:22,974 --> 00:41:23,694
Blues.

538
00:41:23,694 --> 00:41:26,314
So let's give that a quick listen.

539
00:41:26,314 --> 00:41:29,608
This came out of grief, this creation.

540
00:41:38,478 --> 00:41:40,774
I think I know better

541
00:41:43,854 --> 00:41:48,486
Just a little while, just a little
while...

542
00:41:55,886 --> 00:41:59,526
Sitting close at me, they got a rollback.

543
00:42:03,054 --> 00:42:09,002
Got the monghorn sitting cold side and
snake got a rollback.

544
00:42:13,006 --> 00:42:20,046
Just a little while, a little while longer

545
00:42:32,366 --> 00:42:38,598
just a little while a little while longer

546
00:43:59,342 --> 00:44:02,348
Hmm so

547
00:44:04,430 --> 00:44:05,620
That was so good.

548
00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:09,230
That is a salve to the soul.

549
00:44:09,530 --> 00:44:12,810
That is a salve to the soul.

550
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:22,210
So, Rachelle, you can find Rachelle, the
Instagram handles Bevo Blues, B -E -V -O

551
00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:30,430
-B -L -U -E -S, and Rachelle runs Bevo
Blues Coffee Shop, which you can also find

552
00:44:30,430 --> 00:44:32,422
online and...

553
00:44:32,654 --> 00:44:36,794
And I'm gonna, I hope that we can
reschedule and then Rachelle will tell the

554
00:44:36,794 --> 00:44:38,822
fuller story of that.

555
00:44:41,102 --> 00:44:49,822
Alchemy that we just heard right so um
Yeah, so yeah, so do you um so What is

556
00:44:49,822 --> 00:44:52,502
your connection with Rochelle?

557
00:44:52,502 --> 00:44:53,012
Perfect.

558
00:44:53,012 --> 00:44:59,562
Yeah, I was just about to say rest in
power to her father T -bone But our

559
00:44:59,562 --> 00:45:05,082
connection was and I know that I know her
father also just passed as well because

560
00:45:05,082 --> 00:45:08,518
she was a part of our portrait spotlights
series and

561
00:45:08,654 --> 00:45:18,574
for change grief and just a beautiful soul
Rochelle is awesome woman and the way she

562
00:45:18,574 --> 00:45:23,754
told her father's story and you know, just
kind of how grief has shaped her.

563
00:45:23,754 --> 00:45:30,234
It was absolutely profound and I'm so glad
we were able to reconnect through this

564
00:45:30,234 --> 00:45:30,584
way.

565
00:45:30,584 --> 00:45:36,114
I think after she did the project, she
might have just connected the dots between

566
00:45:36,114 --> 00:45:37,518
what you needed and.

567
00:45:37,518 --> 00:45:40,658
But yeah, Rochelle's amazing.

568
00:45:41,158 --> 00:45:46,058
And I just am actually just learning her
extensive music background and her

569
00:45:46,058 --> 00:45:46,458
father's.

570
00:45:46,458 --> 00:45:49,798
Her father's, he did, he was a poet.

571
00:45:49,798 --> 00:45:51,288
So I've learned.

572
00:45:51,288 --> 00:45:54,038
And of course, you said she'll share her
story.

573
00:45:54,038 --> 00:45:57,418
But yeah, we've connected through the
project and that's the way it's supposed

574
00:45:57,418 --> 00:45:59,038
to be.

575
00:45:59,798 --> 00:46:02,478
We've connected on a deeper level through
the project.

576
00:46:02,478 --> 00:46:06,318
And I cannot wait to share.

577
00:46:06,318 --> 00:46:14,018
space and heart space, my, you know,
everything with more people to build

578
00:46:14,018 --> 00:46:15,998
community, community like that.

579
00:46:15,998 --> 00:46:22,978
You know, we met, you know, on a, on this
tipping point and to, and to a whole space

580
00:46:22,978 --> 00:46:23,578
for each other.

581
00:46:23,578 --> 00:46:27,098
But now that we are, have grown with each
other and know that about each other, we

582
00:46:27,098 --> 00:46:31,578
can sort of look out, take care of it, you
know, just be the eyes and ears that you

583
00:46:31,578 --> 00:46:32,654
didn't know you needed.

584
00:46:32,654 --> 00:46:36,784
You know and that's what community is and
we hopefully we'll get back to that.

585
00:46:36,784 --> 00:46:43,614
Yeah, or maybe maybe we do know But we
have no hope or a bright and earlier like

586
00:46:43,614 --> 00:46:48,274
we we know we need people we need each
other and we need community because things

587
00:46:48,274 --> 00:46:54,894
are some things are too heavy to hold by
yourself, right and every person Walking

588
00:46:54,894 --> 00:47:00,968
around is holding crushing Chama crushing

589
00:47:02,350 --> 00:47:04,310
Beliefs.

590
00:47:04,310 --> 00:47:13,990
Yeah that You know, man, I Believe mostly
are untruths right and this but but but

591
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:19,950
those are heavy and so Collective care is
what this is about collective care.

592
00:47:19,950 --> 00:47:20,750
Absolutely.

593
00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:25,590
So this is an antidote I think the project
what you've described to me so far to what

594
00:47:25,590 --> 00:47:26,694
is

595
00:47:28,750 --> 00:47:33,850
what the way our society is structured is
trying to make us isolated and

596
00:47:33,850 --> 00:47:38,210
individualistic because then that
disempowers us.

597
00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:43,280
And then we can continue to row the boat.

598
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,210
And be oppressed.

599
00:47:45,210 --> 00:47:46,990
And be oppressed.

600
00:47:46,990 --> 00:47:50,010
It's like, what world?

601
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:50,920
Right?

602
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,010
What dystopian nightmare are we living in?

603
00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:54,534
Because we are in it.

604
00:47:57,006 --> 00:48:01,586
And my favorite word is love.

605
00:48:01,586 --> 00:48:03,966
My second favorite word is hope.

606
00:48:04,106 --> 00:48:10,806
And I cannot remember and I'm going to
bring it up later online to whoever said

607
00:48:10,806 --> 00:48:12,666
hope is a choice.

608
00:48:12,666 --> 00:48:17,190
And it's the only choice to engage in.

609
00:48:19,214 --> 00:48:22,234
revolutionary, radical organizing work.

610
00:48:22,234 --> 00:48:24,094
You choose hope.

611
00:48:24,794 --> 00:48:27,074
You choose love because love is here.

612
00:48:27,074 --> 00:48:28,454
Love is everywhere.

613
00:48:28,454 --> 00:48:31,854
In this conversation, there's so much
love.

614
00:48:31,854 --> 00:48:32,854
Right?

615
00:48:32,934 --> 00:48:33,834
Yes.

616
00:48:33,834 --> 00:48:34,934
Yeah.

617
00:48:34,934 --> 00:48:37,524
Like deep in, you can't really affect
change.

618
00:48:37,524 --> 00:48:44,154
I feel like if you don't, you know, I've
been trained and taught and conditioned

619
00:48:44,154 --> 00:48:45,230
to...

620
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:47,670
To know that you have to change the
hearts.

621
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:54,110
You can't just change things on paper You
have to change the heart and that's you

622
00:48:54,110 --> 00:49:01,410
can't do that in a silo um, but yeah, I I
it just maybe it's the repetitiveness of

623
00:49:01,410 --> 00:49:07,170
it that we need to actually but it's going
to boil down to the to the essence of you

624
00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:13,320
know us being people and humanizing
ourselves and centering our humanity.

625
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:13,570
Yeah.

626
00:49:13,570 --> 00:49:14,862
Yeah for sure

627
00:49:14,862 --> 00:49:16,518
Um, so.

628
00:49:18,062 --> 00:49:19,322
One step at a time though.

629
00:49:19,322 --> 00:49:19,912
There's a, yeah.

630
00:49:19,912 --> 00:49:20,722
One step at a time.

631
00:49:20,722 --> 00:49:25,742
And also, well, that also brings up for me
something that I'm really glad that I took

632
00:49:25,742 --> 00:49:28,212
this jacket off recently metaphorically.

633
00:49:28,212 --> 00:49:32,022
And that is this notion of scale and
impact, right?

634
00:49:32,022 --> 00:49:38,472
Like the idea, because the dominant
narrative is impact.

635
00:49:38,472 --> 00:49:39,492
And how do you impact?

636
00:49:39,492 --> 00:49:44,462
Impact is more people and more and bigger
and productivity and growth and all of

637
00:49:44,462 --> 00:49:44,562
that.

638
00:49:44,562 --> 00:49:47,270
And sometimes impact is an,

639
00:49:47,438 --> 00:49:54,258
really what feels right is impact, it can
be one thing that you said in love to

640
00:49:54,258 --> 00:49:58,718
someone else and then that turned their
whole trajectory into a different

641
00:49:58,718 --> 00:49:59,458
direction.

642
00:49:59,458 --> 00:50:07,978
And so I no longer believe that narrative
that impact means wider versus deeper.

643
00:50:07,998 --> 00:50:08,638
Right.

644
00:50:08,638 --> 00:50:13,838
I am certainly at the point of deeper
versus wider in my life as a 44 year old

645
00:50:13,838 --> 00:50:14,738
mother.

646
00:50:14,894 --> 00:50:16,434
Yeah, I love it's deep.

647
00:50:16,434 --> 00:50:22,614
It's not for sure and maybe so We're so
aligned because I am a firm believer in

648
00:50:22,614 --> 00:50:27,414
small but mighty like that's the phrase,
you know, that's the phrase Small and

649
00:50:27,414 --> 00:50:35,054
mighty and yeah and and small Is big small
is the new big I feel like but you're

650
00:50:35,054 --> 00:50:39,154
right, but and so that's connected to the
the depth These are about deep

651
00:50:39,154 --> 00:50:43,310
conversations and one -on -one connections
that

652
00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:47,410
And one person can do so much, can change
the world.

653
00:50:48,210 --> 00:51:00,170
So honoring that exchange, you know, and
just not taking lightly how big, small can

654
00:51:00,170 --> 00:51:01,230
be.

655
00:51:01,970 --> 00:51:02,970
Or, you know, and...

656
00:51:02,970 --> 00:51:08,290
Well, even centering that...

657
00:51:08,290 --> 00:51:11,380
Decentering impact means scalability.

658
00:51:11,380 --> 00:51:12,942
And centering...

659
00:51:12,942 --> 00:51:23,542
Impact it's hard to quantify sometimes
right right quality Yeah, yeah Yeah, I

660
00:51:23,542 --> 00:51:29,232
just Reframing one one one minute at a
time for folks.

661
00:51:29,232 --> 00:51:29,542
Yeah.

662
00:51:29,542 --> 00:51:34,822
Thank you for setting that up I think
change grief is definitely a quality We

663
00:51:34,822 --> 00:51:37,682
there's impact there, but it's more so
rooted in quality.

664
00:51:37,682 --> 00:51:40,782
We're trying to slowly

665
00:51:40,782 --> 00:51:46,282
roll things out organically and because
we're seeing that that is what is actually

666
00:51:46,282 --> 00:51:53,342
working and matters and you know rushing
things or trying to keep up with the

667
00:51:53,342 --> 00:51:57,702
industrial you know whatever non -profit
you know just industrial crying.

668
00:51:58,342 --> 00:52:01,882
I mean it's just like you've got to rein
it in.

669
00:52:02,522 --> 00:52:05,242
Calm it down now.

670
00:52:05,482 --> 00:52:09,838
But seriously yeah so so um on that note.

671
00:52:09,838 --> 00:52:11,598
who are your supporters?

672
00:52:11,598 --> 00:52:17,957
And also we're trying to create this new,
we are creating this alternative future

673
00:52:17,957 --> 00:52:23,418
for ourselves, but while also operating
and surviving within the constraints of

674
00:52:23,418 --> 00:52:25,178
the system that's oppressing us.

675
00:52:25,178 --> 00:52:35,498
And so funders, I think of timelines and
grant amounts and all of that system is

676
00:52:35,498 --> 00:52:38,238
still here and we're still going on.

677
00:52:38,238 --> 00:52:39,238
And so,

678
00:52:40,302 --> 00:52:46,682
I appreciate the concept of two
contradictions being able to survive at

679
00:52:46,682 --> 00:52:47,822
once.

680
00:52:47,822 --> 00:52:48,522
Right.

681
00:52:48,822 --> 00:52:55,172
And so your project, let's route it.

682
00:52:55,172 --> 00:53:00,462
Let's map it a little bit for people to
see who are your funders, who are your

683
00:53:00,462 --> 00:53:02,122
supporters and what's your model.

684
00:53:02,122 --> 00:53:05,742
And then maybe folks can start thinking
about how they can plug in.

685
00:53:05,742 --> 00:53:05,922
Absolutely.

686
00:53:05,922 --> 00:53:07,322
Oh, that's good.

687
00:53:08,430 --> 00:53:10,310
Such a rich conversation.

688
00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:12,710
Appreciate your time again today, Stacey.

689
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:17,670
Yeah, so our supporters, our funders,
right now, since we're still organically

690
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:27,730
growing and it's a hyper local project, we
currently have the City of Austin Economic

691
00:53:27,730 --> 00:53:32,410
Development Elevate Program supporting the
project, which is amazing.

692
00:53:32,410 --> 00:53:35,050
And we appreciate their support.

693
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:38,030
So City of Austin funded, we could say.

694
00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:43,650
And then we also have a space that really
is kind of in its resurgence stage.

695
00:53:44,370 --> 00:53:46,410
And a lot of people forget about this
space.

696
00:53:46,410 --> 00:53:51,140
So the space is called African American
Cultural Heritage Facility.

697
00:53:51,140 --> 00:53:58,850
It's off of 11th Street, which is the
cultural district here in Austin.

698
00:53:59,930 --> 00:54:03,710
And it's a phenomenal space.

699
00:54:03,710 --> 00:54:06,318
We're in the Dedrick Hamilton House,
which.

700
00:54:06,318 --> 00:54:10,248
Dedrick Hamilton used to be a freedman.

701
00:54:10,248 --> 00:54:14,318
He was a freed slave that came here and
built that house there.

702
00:54:14,318 --> 00:54:18,938
So that, well, that house is a replica of
the house, the shotgun house is a replica

703
00:54:18,938 --> 00:54:20,768
of the house that he had here.

704
00:54:20,768 --> 00:54:24,558
So there's a lot of history in the
facility that supports us where we take

705
00:54:24,558 --> 00:54:26,578
the pictures and we're doing the docu
-series at.

706
00:54:26,578 --> 00:54:28,608
That's the facility we're holding these
things at.

707
00:54:28,608 --> 00:54:34,878
And then the community activations, those
are in that space as well.

708
00:54:35,246 --> 00:54:36,306
And it's intentional.

709
00:54:36,306 --> 00:54:41,666
It's a space that is that needs to be
highlighted that the African American

710
00:54:41,666 --> 00:54:46,126
cultural heritage facility is a space for
projects like this and not enough people

711
00:54:46,126 --> 00:54:47,566
know about that.

712
00:54:47,566 --> 00:54:50,126
So and then it's accessible.

713
00:54:50,126 --> 00:54:54,366
It's it's it's I say this all the time,
but I guess but hopefully it doesn't get

714
00:54:54,366 --> 00:54:57,086
lost on the wonderful viewer listeners.

715
00:54:57,166 --> 00:54:59,906
But it's it's accessible.

716
00:54:59,906 --> 00:55:04,334
The bus line is right there on the 11th
Street so people can.

717
00:55:04,334 --> 00:55:07,734
walk there, they could be dropped off
there.

718
00:55:07,734 --> 00:55:15,494
Depending on their transportation
situation, you know, we're, there's some

719
00:55:15,494 --> 00:55:19,094
flexibility and understanding and
compassion for that.

720
00:55:19,094 --> 00:55:24,434
And so that space allows us to be able to
extend that compassion and understanding.

721
00:55:24,434 --> 00:55:27,554
So that's the two main places that support
us right now.

722
00:55:27,554 --> 00:55:30,394
Of course, I own my own production
company.

723
00:55:30,394 --> 00:55:32,832
So that supports and then Maria.

724
00:55:32,878 --> 00:55:36,138
Maria's of course, Hearths to Heal
supports the project.

725
00:55:36,138 --> 00:55:39,238
So we have those four core supporters.

726
00:55:39,298 --> 00:55:41,178
What's the name of your production
company?

727
00:55:41,178 --> 00:55:43,398
Strange Wisdom Entertainment.

728
00:55:43,658 --> 00:55:44,298
Yeah.

729
00:55:44,298 --> 00:55:46,998
So, and can I ask you where that name came
from?

730
00:55:46,998 --> 00:55:47,818
It's so cool.

731
00:55:47,818 --> 00:55:48,378
Yeah.

732
00:55:48,378 --> 00:55:56,318
So I am a PK kid, preacher's kid, and it's
just, it's just a faith based no, you

733
00:55:56,318 --> 00:56:02,318
know, moniker that I was tossed in my
spirit and I went with it, but.

734
00:56:02,318 --> 00:56:04,278
It definitely plays a role.

735
00:56:04,278 --> 00:56:10,758
The name is connected to the hard work
that I do and the wisdom that takes place

736
00:56:10,758 --> 00:56:16,738
in the heavy work that I do with the
projects that I take on like Change Grief

737
00:56:16,738 --> 00:56:17,448
and some other.

738
00:56:17,448 --> 00:56:20,758
I did a project called Catharsis, A
Journey Through Anger.

739
00:56:20,758 --> 00:56:25,538
Shout out to Deborah Valcin, the director
on that and Austin Film Society sponsored.

740
00:56:25,838 --> 00:56:28,578
But that was about anger, you know, so
just different things like that.

741
00:56:28,578 --> 00:56:31,406
But yeah, we between.

742
00:56:31,406 --> 00:56:36,646
us, Maria and I at the city of Austin and
the African American cultural facility,

743
00:56:36,646 --> 00:56:39,176
that's what that's the foundation of the
project right now.

744
00:56:39,176 --> 00:56:44,006
But we're hopefully can branch off, you
know, if you're listening now and you're

745
00:56:44,006 --> 00:56:48,106
open or you want to sponsor a project,
definitely reach out.

746
00:56:48,126 --> 00:56:53,246
You can find me on Instagram, Tyra T
Clark, and then the change grief project

747
00:56:53,246 --> 00:57:00,826
on Instagram to change grief and reach out
and let us know you know how we can.

748
00:57:00,910 --> 00:57:03,680
how you want to support or how we can
collaborate or how we can help you really.

749
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:09,270
I'm a firm believer in adding value first
and then seeing how you can help me.

750
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:12,670
So we'll start that conversation and then
go from there.

751
00:57:12,670 --> 00:57:13,260
But yeah.

752
00:57:13,260 --> 00:57:18,670
Did, um, when is your next, um, event or,
um, activation?

753
00:57:18,670 --> 00:57:19,320
Yes.

754
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,360
Oh, great question.

755
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,230
So remember I said we're slow rolling.

756
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:26,950
Um, I know judgment assigned to this
question at all.

757
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:30,558
So urgency is not a bone in my body that I
like to highlight.

758
00:57:31,150 --> 00:57:33,210
They're quiet that down.

759
00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:34,730
Bless you for your grace.

760
00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:42,670
We plan on gently tackling our portrait
spotlight series exhibit, which will be,

761
00:57:42,670 --> 00:57:46,910
we hope, open to the public end of April,
May.

762
00:57:46,910 --> 00:57:51,590
And it'll be the exhibit will be in the
cultural heritage space that I mentioned

763
00:57:51,590 --> 00:57:54,670
earlier off of 11th Street.

764
00:57:54,702 --> 00:57:59,422
So that's the next date end of April and
exhibits and then our docu series kicks

765
00:57:59,422 --> 00:58:03,782
off in May the end of May and and then we
have one I'm gonna be online.

766
00:58:03,782 --> 00:58:07,642
Are you gonna have a an event that's or
both?

767
00:58:07,642 --> 00:58:13,042
Well, the that'll be you talking about
these the exhibit the docu series docu

768
00:58:13,042 --> 00:58:16,822
series will well that's gonna be oh, we're
out what's gonna live.

769
00:58:16,822 --> 00:58:17,372
I'm sorry.

770
00:58:17,372 --> 00:58:20,442
Yes online streaming platforms.

771
00:58:20,442 --> 00:58:24,390
Eventually, we're still working out the
kinks of when we do finally get it done.

772
00:58:24,526 --> 00:58:30,286
Where we wanted to live but it'll first
it'll be on our website and then or a

773
00:58:30,286 --> 00:58:35,026
hearts to hills website And then it'll be
on streaming platforms for sure YouTube

774
00:58:35,026 --> 00:58:40,366
things like that and then we'll do
community screenings and it'll be it'll be

775
00:58:40,366 --> 00:58:44,586
great looking forward to attending and
sharing widely

776
00:58:45,198 --> 00:58:46,178
All right, Tyra.

777
00:58:46,178 --> 00:58:52,118
Well, we are out of time today, but I wish
you so much love and blessings and success

778
00:58:52,118 --> 00:58:57,358
with this project and the work you're
doing in lifting up our collective

779
00:58:57,358 --> 00:58:58,138
community.

780
00:58:58,138 --> 00:59:01,218
And we're going to keep holding each other
for a long time, I think.

781
00:59:01,218 --> 00:59:03,058
Thank you so much.

782
00:59:03,058 --> 00:59:06,078
I, the feeling is extremely mutual.

783
00:59:06,378 --> 00:59:09,258
Thank you for your precious time today and
shout out to co -op.

784
00:59:09,258 --> 00:59:10,388
Thank you.

785
00:59:10,388 --> 00:59:10,698
Yes.

786
00:59:10,698 --> 00:59:12,188
Shout out to co -op.

787
00:59:12,188 --> 00:59:12,718
Um,

788
00:59:12,718 --> 00:59:15,398
Coop .org, we stream all of our shows.

789
00:59:15,398 --> 00:59:18,848
I'm gonna be archiving this online and
sharing it on socials.

790
00:59:18,848 --> 00:59:25,258
My email once again is stacey, S -T -A -C
-I -E, at k -o -o -p .org.

791
00:59:25,418 --> 00:59:27,198
Thank you for tuning in.

792
00:59:27,198 --> 00:59:36,378
The music you heard at the top and mid and
going out on was from Shojenka Rahim.

793
00:59:39,918 --> 00:59:45,058
Up next is Writing on the Air with Mindy
Reed and remember in all things and

794
00:59:45,058 --> 00:59:48,612
always, love is the highest level.

795
01:00:15,214 --> 01:00:21,434
in this world you only need one song to
live your life like you visualize a

796
01:00:21,434 --> 01:00:27,234
philanthropist, I take it nothing never
giving up on the love tip let your light

797
01:00:27,234 --> 01:00:32,684
shine like the sunshine a celebration, no
separation you got a love song?

798
01:00:32,684 --> 01:00:36,012
I got a love song, we in the love song

799
01:00:49,582 --> 01:00:54,162
Travel the world, sharing your time With
the young and the old and the rich and the

800
01:00:54,162 --> 01:00:57,806
poor The conversation, let it move your
soul

801
01:00:59,374 --> 01:01:03,692
You got a love song, I got a love song, we
in the love zone.

802
01:01:13,422 --> 01:01:21,002
You see, I'm a gift, you're a gift
Together we create melodies with harmonies

803
01:01:21,002 --> 01:01:27,462
We're making peace for the world to see
You got a love song, I got a love song We

804
01:01:27,462 --> 01:01:28,562
in the love song