1 00:00:00,192 --> 00:00:03,526 Hey everybody, welcome to Poduty in the News for Tuesday, March 2 00:00:03,622 --> 00:00:07,245 17th. It's St. Patty's Day. I got a great guest joining me 3 00:00:07,245 --> 00:00:10,579 today. We're talking 6 live news stories about live news 4 00:00:10,676 --> 00:00:14,202 podcasting recorded live from the stage. It's Scott 5 00:00:14,202 --> 00:00:17,745 Edwards. Scott, do you know what time it is? Ladies and 6 00:00:17,745 --> 00:00:19,861 gentlemen, it's Poduty time. 7 00:00:20,871 --> 00:00:24,622 Let's rock it. St. Patty's Day. I 8 00:00:24,622 --> 00:00:25,616 got my cocktail. 9 00:00:31,900 --> 00:00:35,474 What time is it? Oh, 10 00:00:36,099 --> 00:00:38,825 oh, it's time for 11 00:00:38,825 --> 00:00:40,957 Poduty and the News. 12 00:00:42,255 --> 00:00:46,022 Poduty and 13 00:00:46,022 --> 00:00:49,565 the News, the only live news podcast 14 00:00:49,565 --> 00:00:52,434 about podcasting from the state. 15 00:00:52,610 --> 00:00:55,143 Poduty and the News. 16 00:00:55,816 --> 00:01:00,113 Poduty 17 00:01:00,385 --> 00:01:03,719 and the News, the only live news 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,818 Podcast about podcasting from the 19 00:01:06,882 --> 00:01:11,266 stage. 20 00:01:12,807 --> 00:01:16,179 Oh, the only live news podcast about podcasting from the stage. It's 21 00:01:16,356 --> 00:01:20,129 Scott Edwards. Scott, welcome to the show. What happened to the music, man? I 22 00:01:20,129 --> 00:01:23,742 was just getting my dance on. Hey, good to be here, Jeff. 23 00:01:23,822 --> 00:01:27,355 Great. Uh, what a wonderful setup. I wish I was there on stage with you. 24 00:01:27,435 --> 00:01:31,236 It looks amazing. Well, we'll have to get you here someday. One of 25 00:01:31,236 --> 00:01:34,830 the things I love the most is a guest that brings their own sound effects, 26 00:01:34,846 --> 00:01:38,553 and so far you've knocked two out of the park. I love it. Well, you 27 00:01:38,553 --> 00:01:42,254 know, you never know when something is, is gonna go the other way. Yeah. 28 00:01:42,577 --> 00:01:46,118 All right, settle down, settle down. The dancing girls are off to the 29 00:01:46,118 --> 00:01:49,793 side. Yeah, those people have seen this show, I'm guessing. 30 00:01:52,361 --> 00:01:56,082 But Scott, looking back through your history, the website scottscomedystuff.com 31 00:01:57,192 --> 00:02:00,866 your Verbal Ninja production. But the thing that really catches my attention 32 00:02:00,866 --> 00:02:04,621 about your story is Laughs Unlimited comedy clubs in 33 00:02:04,653 --> 00:02:08,311 California, when this was a time when comedy clubs 34 00:02:08,584 --> 00:02:12,402 weren't all that well established across the country. And you're very 35 00:02:12,595 --> 00:02:16,189 early to this. And the parallel that I'm seeing is you were 36 00:02:16,189 --> 00:02:19,944 starting these comedy clubs, you, as it was becoming a thing, as 37 00:02:19,976 --> 00:02:23,489 it was growing, as the public was starting to accept it as a, like, a 38 00:02:23,489 --> 00:02:26,891 form of entertainment to go out for the night a night out, go see a 39 00:02:26,955 --> 00:02:30,757 comedian. And here we are in 2026 trying to build a 40 00:02:30,805 --> 00:02:34,655 theater very similar to the comedy club model for a 41 00:02:34,655 --> 00:02:38,296 place for people to go perform podcasters, or 42 00:02:38,408 --> 00:02:41,953 go perform their podcast and have a night out, enjoy it. And we're 43 00:02:41,953 --> 00:02:45,723 showing the community that, hey, this is a form of entertainment. So 44 00:02:45,723 --> 00:02:49,573 there's a lot of parallels between what you built in the early '80s 45 00:02:50,295 --> 00:02:53,343 and what we're trying to do today. I'd love to hear some of those your 46 00:02:53,343 --> 00:02:56,952 early comedy club stories about, you know, what were you 47 00:02:56,952 --> 00:03:00,481 thinking when you're like, okay, there's got to be a place for people to, to 48 00:03:00,481 --> 00:03:04,235 perform this type of art? Well, I, I'm so glad you asked, 49 00:03:04,251 --> 00:03:07,956 Jeff. It's been really a lot of dumb luck. In fact, in the late 50 00:03:07,956 --> 00:03:11,116 '70s, I was, uh, somebody 51 00:03:11,533 --> 00:03:15,159 said, hey, we need some music for a wedding. And so I 52 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:18,896 formed a company called Sounds Good Music, and we were spinning records 53 00:03:19,249 --> 00:03:22,888 in a thing called Disco. Long before the 54 00:03:22,904 --> 00:03:26,750 movie Saturday Night Fever made it a big deal. And when we were spinning 55 00:03:26,846 --> 00:03:30,676 records and doing weddings and bar mitzvahs and birthday parties in schools, 56 00:03:31,734 --> 00:03:35,387 there really nobody understood what disco was. They just liked dancing 57 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:39,169 to the music, kind of like your opening. It's really fun and exciting and 58 00:03:39,345 --> 00:03:43,095 anybody could dance to it, right? And then the movie 59 00:03:43,192 --> 00:03:46,679 came out. Disco got really hot. And there was a 60 00:03:46,679 --> 00:03:49,956 disco in every town in the country. It was pretty 61 00:03:49,972 --> 00:03:53,184 incredible. So I kind of lucked into the timing on that. Well, 62 00:03:53,604 --> 00:03:56,867 fast forward a few years and I'm on a short 63 00:03:56,932 --> 00:04:00,424 vacation down in Los Angeles. And my dad, who had a great sense of humor, 64 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,061 says, you got to go by this little satellite club of The Comedy 65 00:04:04,061 --> 00:04:07,632 Store. It's in Westwood, right by UCLA University, and 66 00:04:08,050 --> 00:04:11,712 check it out. And I go in and I was with my 67 00:04:12,018 --> 00:04:15,788 then-girlfriend, soon-to-be wife, soon-to-be ex-wife. Whoop! And 68 00:04:15,788 --> 00:04:19,461 I had a great time. It was my first exposure to live 69 00:04:19,493 --> 00:04:22,765 comedy. And people listening to Jeff's show, you got to know 70 00:04:23,246 --> 00:04:26,871 this is in the late '70s where comedy, especially 71 00:04:26,871 --> 00:04:30,688 stand-up comedy, was just kind of the entertainment break between 72 00:04:30,784 --> 00:04:34,249 jazz bands or strippers at a strip club. I mean, it 73 00:04:34,249 --> 00:04:38,002 wasn't considered mainstream entertainment. It was more of a filler. 74 00:04:38,499 --> 00:04:42,140 Well, I loved it to death. I met Dave Coulier that night, George 75 00:04:42,268 --> 00:04:45,891 Wallace, Sandra Bernhardt. And I said, man, I gotta get into 76 00:04:46,019 --> 00:04:49,416 this. Much like disco, I just got the idea, really 77 00:04:49,416 --> 00:04:53,166 somebody else's idea, stole it and made it my own. Jeff, 78 00:04:53,246 --> 00:04:56,948 the rest is comedy history. You're right. A 79 00:04:57,076 --> 00:05:00,826 lot of times you hear stories from that era and people were doing comedy at 80 00:05:00,858 --> 00:05:03,951 bowling alleys and the backs of Chinese restaurants. 81 00:05:04,528 --> 00:05:08,310 And they're just really good. No, I didn't mean to cut 82 00:05:08,310 --> 00:05:12,063 you off. I, I I don't know how this Riverside works, but if we're 83 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:15,801 both talking, I'm the one that counts. I'm the guest. But no, Jeff, what were 84 00:05:15,849 --> 00:05:19,539 you saying? The way that the comedy clubs were kind of established— 85 00:05:20,021 --> 00:05:23,759 they weren't really established because back then people, you would hear stories about people 86 00:05:23,791 --> 00:05:27,610 doing comedy in bowling alleys or the back of Chinese 87 00:05:27,626 --> 00:05:31,428 restaurants, that there really wasn't a set place. But there was 88 00:05:31,556 --> 00:05:35,391 this rising of talent, this rising of this new medium. That was 89 00:05:35,729 --> 00:05:39,439 really catching on, and you saw the wave and kind of 90 00:05:39,503 --> 00:05:43,021 caught that wave as that art form was really growing. 91 00:05:43,615 --> 00:05:47,358 To be honest, Jeff, I was actually a little ahead of the curve. So 92 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:51,180 when I opened my chain of comedy clubs with the help of Dave Coulier, Bob 93 00:05:51,229 --> 00:05:54,730 Saget, George Wallace, and Garry Shandling, I opened in 94 00:05:54,923 --> 00:05:58,505 August of 1980, and that was the year 95 00:05:58,697 --> 00:06:02,501 that I was the 12th. That's like you know, 10 plus 2, the 96 00:06:02,565 --> 00:06:05,947 12th full-time comedy club in the entire U.S. 97 00:06:06,332 --> 00:06:09,747 That's how new and unusual it was. It was the Improv in L.A. and New 98 00:06:09,763 --> 00:06:13,530 York. There was the Comedy Store in L.A. There was a club up in Seattle, 99 00:06:13,931 --> 00:06:17,233 one in Boston, but they were very rare. And I opened up 100 00:06:17,457 --> 00:06:20,920 Laughs Unlimited, all comedy showroom, 101 00:06:21,321 --> 00:06:24,992 in August 1980. My very first show, the opening act, 102 00:06:25,072 --> 00:06:28,680 making $100 for the week. Gary Shanling. You may 103 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,530 remember him from a few shows, Larry Sanders Show and stuff. And my 104 00:06:32,530 --> 00:06:36,364 feature act was a talented magician, and the headliner was the one and 105 00:06:36,380 --> 00:06:40,215 only George Wallace, who went on to have his own theater show at the 106 00:06:40,247 --> 00:06:43,824 Flamingo in Las Vegas for over a dozen years. Really 107 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,369 funny people. And what's great, and like you mentioned, 108 00:06:47,402 --> 00:06:51,123 stand-up comedy wasn't really a known thing. In fact, I was 109 00:06:51,220 --> 00:06:54,942 using the banquet room of a restaurant and I would have to set up every 110 00:06:54,942 --> 00:06:58,712 night for my shows. And it was so new that 111 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,723 the only way I got going was these guys introduced me to 112 00:07:02,787 --> 00:07:06,316 people. So Dave Coulier introduced me to Bob 113 00:07:06,316 --> 00:07:09,814 Sagan. Bob Sagan introduced me to Shanling, and Shanling 114 00:07:10,247 --> 00:07:13,905 introduced me to Paula Poundstone, and, and goes on and on. 115 00:07:14,162 --> 00:07:17,771 And it was just an exciting time. It was kind of like the 116 00:07:17,787 --> 00:07:21,607 Wild Wild West because There was no framework 117 00:07:22,121 --> 00:07:25,523 for clubs at that time. It was very new and I 118 00:07:26,133 --> 00:07:29,953 picked the way I wanted to go. Some clubs were different. I 119 00:07:29,985 --> 00:07:33,147 was considered an A-room. A lot of the guys that worked for me went on 120 00:07:33,196 --> 00:07:36,935 to sitcoms and movies and TV shows. But I did a lot of 121 00:07:36,951 --> 00:07:40,707 open mic work and worked with some great people 122 00:07:40,804 --> 00:07:44,560 long before they were famous. And it was, it was really an exciting 123 00:07:44,672 --> 00:07:48,348 time. And I'm going to say one more thing. Much like disco, where it 124 00:07:48,364 --> 00:07:52,059 went from being in every city. When I 125 00:07:52,059 --> 00:07:55,850 opened up, I was the 12th club in the country. That's 1980. By 126 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:59,175 1985, they had taken over all those 127 00:07:59,288 --> 00:08:02,661 discos, and now there was 1 or 2 in every major city. So 128 00:08:03,127 --> 00:08:06,741 it went from 12 to maybe 200 in just a matter of a few 129 00:08:06,757 --> 00:08:10,500 years. Yeah, I love that your first show, your— 130 00:08:10,613 --> 00:08:14,243 it was— it's 2 of the greatest legends in comedy, and that's how you 131 00:08:14,243 --> 00:08:17,805 started. Yeah, well, you know, nobody really knew 132 00:08:17,997 --> 00:08:21,814 them at the time. It was much like Bob Saget. And I 133 00:08:21,910 --> 00:08:25,229 got a great story for you. Do you have time, Jeff? I'd love— I'd love 134 00:08:25,277 --> 00:08:28,581 to hear a Bob Saget story. Oh, Bob Saget was a 135 00:08:28,581 --> 00:08:31,916 tremendous guy and a great friend. He really helped me out a lot in getting 136 00:08:31,932 --> 00:08:35,395 started. In fact, he helped produce and star in my first 137 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:39,003 two TV commercials, and he didn't even charge me for it. 138 00:08:39,404 --> 00:08:42,499 But the really exciting thing was we were such good friends and 139 00:08:42,996 --> 00:08:46,750 comedy was still so new. He called me up and he goes, hey, I'm coming 140 00:08:46,846 --> 00:08:49,701 up in a couple of weeks and I need to bring a friend with me 141 00:08:50,391 --> 00:08:53,358 to open the show. And I said, Bob, hey, anything you want, 142 00:08:54,545 --> 00:08:57,962 no problem. So a couple of weeks go by and this guy 143 00:08:58,074 --> 00:09:01,907 comes up and he knows nothing about comedy. And Bob's there to teach him 144 00:09:02,645 --> 00:09:06,286 how to do stand-up. So I'm showing the guy how to, you know, where to 145 00:09:06,351 --> 00:09:09,719 look, how to interact with the audience, how the mic works and all the kind 146 00:09:09,719 --> 00:09:13,088 of technical stuff. And Bob's writing material for him. 147 00:09:13,570 --> 00:09:17,035 And that guy worked for a whole week for no money, and he was 148 00:09:17,099 --> 00:09:20,790 practicing and practicing a set. And then the very next 149 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:24,609 week, he did a short version of that set on his 150 00:09:24,705 --> 00:09:28,139 very first TV show called Bosom Buddies. 151 00:09:29,599 --> 00:09:33,161 And the star was Tom Hanks. Yeah, 152 00:09:34,894 --> 00:09:38,648 that, that's incredible. Great stories. And 153 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:42,342 just just to be there as this is developing and, 154 00:09:42,921 --> 00:09:45,860 and really, you know, immersing yourself. And that's kind of what we talk about now 155 00:09:45,909 --> 00:09:49,700 with podcasting. This is the time, like, immerse yourself in things that 156 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:53,458 are happening, the current events. These are those roots that are getting planted 157 00:09:53,458 --> 00:09:56,960 right now in this industry, you know, similar to what 158 00:09:56,976 --> 00:10:00,414 happened in comedy 40, 40, 50 years ago. It's pretty 159 00:10:00,446 --> 00:10:04,205 incredible just to see it, kind of how things are cyclical and 160 00:10:04,301 --> 00:10:08,041 new things are coming up and new things are developing. And those 161 00:10:08,073 --> 00:10:11,551 great stories, those great legends that came from that time period are also going to 162 00:10:11,599 --> 00:10:15,108 start to come from this time period too in the podcast arena. 163 00:10:15,428 --> 00:10:19,274 Yeah. And ladies and gentlemen, for those actually listening, Jeff was just saying how fricking 164 00:10:19,354 --> 00:10:23,088 old I am. So thank you very much, Jeff. But yes, I'm an old guy 165 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,982 and I had a lot of fun when I was young. But you're right. Podcasting 166 00:10:26,982 --> 00:10:30,828 was very similar to disco and stand-up comedy for me. I first 167 00:10:30,828 --> 00:10:34,228 got into it about 7 years ago. Podcasting was not 168 00:10:34,356 --> 00:10:37,986 nearly as popular as it is now. And I started 169 00:10:38,436 --> 00:10:41,681 a small audio podcast that 170 00:10:42,130 --> 00:10:45,407 ended up doing very well and it still continues. And it's been 171 00:10:46,162 --> 00:10:49,905 a real joy because the focus of my podcast, I'm 172 00:10:49,937 --> 00:10:53,390 sure you could never guess, is stand-up comedy. So I got a 173 00:10:53,390 --> 00:10:57,085 chance to showcase entertainment from back in the '80s and '90s, 174 00:10:57,165 --> 00:11:00,984 but also new young comics. And then I interviewed a lot of the comedy 175 00:11:01,177 --> 00:11:04,993 industry professionals, and that makes my little 176 00:11:05,025 --> 00:11:08,858 podcast— I was doing it kind of for selfish fun, but now it's 177 00:11:08,858 --> 00:11:12,530 kind of a history of the life of comedy as 178 00:11:12,947 --> 00:11:16,732 an actual industry, entertainment industry, that's not only enjoyed 179 00:11:16,732 --> 00:11:20,244 by millions but is respected and a big part of our 180 00:11:20,260 --> 00:11:23,996 entertainment world. Not to keep coming back to podcasting, 181 00:11:24,028 --> 00:11:27,846 but the way comedians have really infiltrated podcasting 182 00:11:27,942 --> 00:11:31,487 over the last 10 to 15 years, the way they've adopted and 183 00:11:31,487 --> 00:11:35,017 grown and really kept connecting with their audiences in new 184 00:11:35,081 --> 00:11:38,562 ways. Podcasting has been that medium, and I listened to some episodes. 185 00:11:38,947 --> 00:11:42,749 It is, it's like this history of comedy. You're hearing some of these stories, some 186 00:11:42,797 --> 00:11:46,632 of the acts, you're hearing some of the behind-the-scenes things. It's over 187 00:11:46,648 --> 00:11:50,354 at ScottsComedyStuff.com. We'll have the links in the show notes. 188 00:11:50,803 --> 00:11:53,833 Go check out the site. Check out the content on there. Check out the history 189 00:11:54,185 --> 00:11:57,726 on that podcast. It's really incredible. And the podcast is called 190 00:11:57,726 --> 00:12:01,252 Stand-Up Comedy, your host and MC. And that was a selfish 191 00:12:01,316 --> 00:12:04,937 plug. But if you get a chance, it is interesting. And if you like 192 00:12:04,937 --> 00:12:08,703 stand-up comedy, you'll enjoy it. But you're absolutely right, Jeff. Stand-up comedy, 193 00:12:08,751 --> 00:12:11,828 much like podcasting, is just building its 194 00:12:11,876 --> 00:12:14,904 foundation. Foundational. Foundational. 195 00:12:15,577 --> 00:12:18,798 We're fondling each other. I don't know. It doesn't feel right. But 196 00:12:18,943 --> 00:12:22,469 it's a foundation for future 197 00:12:23,014 --> 00:12:26,381 interaction with our audiences. And I think you're 198 00:12:26,621 --> 00:12:29,875 totally on point that comedy has gone from 199 00:12:30,484 --> 00:12:34,316 the stage to television to then social media, 200 00:12:34,412 --> 00:12:36,512 and now it's into podcasting. And why? 201 00:12:37,842 --> 00:12:41,305 Because you're reaching a new and extended audience 202 00:12:41,770 --> 00:12:45,008 each and every time you're on. You know, when I started my podcast, I had 203 00:12:45,008 --> 00:12:48,566 a pretty good following, but in Northern California, and then it was all of 204 00:12:48,598 --> 00:12:51,871 California, then it was half the US, and then it was 205 00:12:52,513 --> 00:12:56,270 all the US. Well, now, 6 and a half, 7 years later, 206 00:12:56,687 --> 00:13:00,203 I'm number 2 in Haiti. I mean, 207 00:13:00,395 --> 00:13:03,975 come on, you can't beat that. I'm the number 2 comedy show in Haiti. 208 00:13:04,312 --> 00:13:06,881 Whoop whoop! The kids are excited. 209 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:15,887 Scott, thank you for sharing those stories with me. As I found out, 210 00:13:15,951 --> 00:13:19,547 you know, through podcasting, that I enjoy comedians 211 00:13:20,286 --> 00:13:24,058 more off the stage. I enjoy the backstories, how learning 212 00:13:24,138 --> 00:13:27,702 how jokes came together, learning about those stories 213 00:13:27,702 --> 00:13:31,474 about being on tour and the things that you don't hear on the stage. 214 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:35,343 Those have become so interesting to me, and it's given a whole new light 215 00:13:35,728 --> 00:13:38,746 to what it takes to be a comedian, how difficult it is to be a 216 00:13:38,746 --> 00:13:42,213 comedian, what it— what you have to actually grind through 217 00:13:42,695 --> 00:13:46,401 to become an established comedian. And those stories all come to 218 00:13:46,465 --> 00:13:50,280 life because comedians have adopted podcasting as a way 219 00:13:50,312 --> 00:13:54,159 to share more with their audience. Exactly. In fact, 220 00:13:54,175 --> 00:13:58,007 in the comedy club world with comics, what they do is they 221 00:13:58,071 --> 00:14:01,661 get on stage each and every night and they're writing material, trying 222 00:14:01,694 --> 00:14:05,509 material, moving words around, getting the timing just right 223 00:14:05,925 --> 00:14:09,693 so that when it gets to be the perfect set at a comedy club, 224 00:14:09,773 --> 00:14:13,267 then they can go on to TV or into a movie and they've got that 225 00:14:13,315 --> 00:14:17,147 timing, they've got that material. Well, what's great about broadcasting 226 00:14:17,243 --> 00:14:20,962 is not only are you getting that material, but a lot of people just 227 00:14:21,010 --> 00:14:24,777 like you, Jeff, like the behind the scenes, what it took 228 00:14:24,777 --> 00:14:28,544 to build the foundation of that joke, how many times or how 229 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,263 many different ways was it performed before it became the joke we all 230 00:14:32,407 --> 00:14:36,255 know. You know, uh, waiter, there's a fly in my 231 00:14:36,255 --> 00:14:40,038 soup. You know, I mean, who knows where that started, uh, but it, uh, 232 00:14:40,551 --> 00:14:43,308 I heard in the beginning it was a penguin, not a fly. But you know, 233 00:14:43,532 --> 00:14:47,059 you never know what's going to happen in comedy. And what's great about 234 00:14:47,059 --> 00:14:50,395 podcasting is that not only can share the actual 235 00:14:50,491 --> 00:14:54,277 entertainment, the jokes as they're, uh, you know, crushed in from 236 00:14:54,582 --> 00:14:58,127 coal into a diamond and are really funny, but also 237 00:14:58,528 --> 00:15:01,961 where they got that lump of coal and what made them, uh, get that 238 00:15:01,961 --> 00:15:05,443 idea and what did they do to hone that over and over to make it 239 00:15:05,443 --> 00:15:09,132 funny. And that is interesting to a lot of people, at 240 00:15:09,197 --> 00:15:13,015 least the, the two on this stage. Yeah, I could hear those 241 00:15:13,047 --> 00:15:16,767 stories all day and it it adds another level 242 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,436 that you don't expect. You do end up hearing the polished 243 00:15:20,484 --> 00:15:24,186 routine, the one that's been crafted over a year or year and a 244 00:15:24,250 --> 00:15:27,647 half to get to that perfect 7 minutes for a 245 00:15:27,711 --> 00:15:30,708 Tonight Show or the perfect hour for a special. 246 00:15:31,477 --> 00:15:35,323 But it didn't just happen. It's not magic that somebody can put 247 00:15:35,323 --> 00:15:39,008 an hour together. It takes days or months, 248 00:15:39,473 --> 00:15:43,193 month after month after month. Months and a year sometimes to get 249 00:15:43,193 --> 00:15:47,012 to that level, to be able to have that hour. And you need 250 00:15:47,012 --> 00:15:50,413 to— I like to know, you know, how's the sausage made? And that's really what 251 00:15:50,462 --> 00:15:54,168 you get with podcasting. Exactly. A lot of bad sausage. But 252 00:15:54,232 --> 00:15:58,019 anyway, what you want is that experience. I 253 00:15:58,019 --> 00:16:01,629 think your concept of podcasting, Jeff, is so 254 00:16:01,645 --> 00:16:05,271 fresh because if you had a 255 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:08,897 comic on your stage right now, what I would do if I was 256 00:16:08,929 --> 00:16:12,687 producing it is I would introduce this comic, he'd come out and do 257 00:16:12,703 --> 00:16:16,447 like his tight 5-10 minute set, shit he's been working on 258 00:16:16,544 --> 00:16:19,853 for years and years, get a nice big applause, get the audience 259 00:16:19,853 --> 00:16:23,694 engaged in it, and then sit him down and have a 260 00:16:23,694 --> 00:16:27,405 podcast interview where you can dig deeper, get 261 00:16:27,405 --> 00:16:31,213 information, learn about it. And trust me, that comic is still going 262 00:16:31,213 --> 00:16:34,362 to be entertaining in the conversation. And that's what in 263 00:16:34,459 --> 00:16:37,893 podcasting we're looking for. It's a sharing of information 264 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:41,932 while being entertained. There's a— you're not going to 265 00:16:41,948 --> 00:16:45,442 believe this— there's a gentleman from Pittsburgh. He was a comic in the '90s, Loaf 266 00:16:45,442 --> 00:16:49,193 Thomas. He's been coming out to some of my meetups and he's putting 267 00:16:49,225 --> 00:16:52,495 together a show very similar to that. It's going to have— he's going to host 268 00:16:52,495 --> 00:16:55,508 the night and bring out 3 comedians with him. 269 00:16:56,422 --> 00:16:59,868 And they're each due 7, 10 minutes, just kind of work the crowd, you know, 270 00:17:00,125 --> 00:17:03,779 be loose. And then after that, they're going to sit down and 271 00:17:04,052 --> 00:17:07,401 just talk about stuff, talk about the set, talk about how some of the jokes 272 00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:11,086 came together, and do like a little mock interview, a little panel for the 273 00:17:11,086 --> 00:17:14,691 audience. And I think it's going to be a great concept. And hearing it from 274 00:17:14,691 --> 00:17:18,136 you saying, hey, this is a direction we should go in, I feel a lot 275 00:17:18,152 --> 00:17:21,420 better about this. I think it's coming up towards the end of April. We haven't 276 00:17:21,436 --> 00:17:25,170 set a date yet, but— well, people, mark your calendars because Jeff is 277 00:17:25,266 --> 00:17:28,855 on to a great idea, and don't want to miss that show because 278 00:17:28,951 --> 00:17:32,653 not only will you see some great live comedy entertainment but you'll get a 279 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:36,473 chance to interact with the comics as Jeff asks them questions and 280 00:17:36,505 --> 00:17:40,132 let them kind of share their experience. Because trust me, 281 00:17:40,501 --> 00:17:44,273 stand-up comics are all a little goofy, right? And so the way they come up 282 00:17:44,273 --> 00:17:47,836 with their material and work it out is never a straight line. 283 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:51,206 It's always tangents and things they try. And 284 00:17:51,575 --> 00:17:55,266 it's an amazing artwork. 285 00:17:55,668 --> 00:17:59,454 You know, comedy is part of the variety arts. And I think it's just so 286 00:17:59,534 --> 00:18:03,060 creative, but that creativity in what 287 00:18:03,060 --> 00:18:06,555 makes comedy unique compared to oil paintings 288 00:18:07,212 --> 00:18:10,818 or even songs by musicians is that 289 00:18:10,818 --> 00:18:14,233 stand-up comedy success is based directly on 290 00:18:14,505 --> 00:18:18,256 audience interaction and audience response. And being 291 00:18:18,352 --> 00:18:22,103 able to bring that into a podcast, not only the entertainment, but then 292 00:18:22,135 --> 00:18:25,661 the behind-the-scenes conversation, I gotta tell you, 293 00:18:25,886 --> 00:18:29,654 Genius. Whoop whoop. Any sound effects for 294 00:18:29,654 --> 00:18:33,391 genius? I like the— I don't know if I have anything. 295 00:18:33,439 --> 00:18:37,272 Let's see. Uh, all 296 00:18:37,785 --> 00:18:41,458 right. Well, Scott, Scott's Comedy Stuff dot 297 00:18:41,458 --> 00:18:44,344 com. All the links will be in the show notes. I could do this so 298 00:18:44,344 --> 00:18:46,958 that we could just throw out the stories and I could keep talking about comedy, 299 00:18:47,472 --> 00:18:51,048 but we do have 6 news stories to get to about live podcasting. We're going 300 00:18:51,064 --> 00:18:54,623 to tie in all this history that we're talking about to some current 301 00:18:54,623 --> 00:18:58,053 events, to how people are performing podcasts now, some of the 302 00:18:58,053 --> 00:19:01,836 conferences, some of the live shows, and all this stuff Scott's going to 303 00:19:01,965 --> 00:19:05,780 pull on all that history that he has for Laughs Unlimited, the comedy 304 00:19:06,068 --> 00:19:09,274 shows, the tours, all those things that have built up 305 00:19:09,916 --> 00:19:12,849 Scott's repertoire. I think that's— I'm learning to speak French. 306 00:19:13,683 --> 00:19:17,450 Those are going to apply to these current events. Yeah, no, no, 307 00:19:17,466 --> 00:19:21,185 it goes, uh, you know, we're taping this on St. Patty's Day, so it goes, 308 00:19:21,762 --> 00:19:25,339 uh, right along with the green I'm wearing because I believe in 309 00:19:26,350 --> 00:19:28,597 being a tribute to the 310 00:19:29,881 --> 00:19:33,620 St. Patrick's Day people and the loving Irish and their drinking. 311 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:38,323 I think what you're talking about is incredible. And just to give 312 00:19:38,323 --> 00:19:42,126 everybody in the audience a little bit more about me, what was 313 00:19:42,159 --> 00:19:45,256 amazing about stand-up comedy is it opened up the world of 314 00:19:45,513 --> 00:19:49,060 producing to me. And not only did I do live stage 315 00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:52,816 shows, 6, 7 nights a week for over 21 years. But 316 00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:55,706 I produced several live concerts up to 317 00:19:55,706 --> 00:19:59,173 12,000, 15,000 people. I did 2 318 00:19:59,334 --> 00:20:03,058 television series and 1 TV special for Fox. I 319 00:20:03,107 --> 00:20:06,815 did a lot of radio, produced a couple of bands, took 320 00:20:06,863 --> 00:20:10,700 them to records, and comedy really 321 00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:14,585 opened the door for me. And it's just 322 00:20:14,585 --> 00:20:18,213 so exciting that podcasting is the bridge to let me 323 00:20:18,663 --> 00:20:22,115 relive and share not only those stories, but I'm still 324 00:20:22,211 --> 00:20:25,808 interacting with comics today, which makes my retired 325 00:20:25,808 --> 00:20:29,581 life much more fulfilled. Yeah, it's got to be great. Just, you sit 326 00:20:29,581 --> 00:20:33,355 down and start telling these stories, go have coffee with some old friends that 327 00:20:33,355 --> 00:20:36,662 you connected with over the years, and just reliving those moments 328 00:20:36,662 --> 00:20:40,115 and what was built and what was accomplished in that time 329 00:20:40,837 --> 00:20:44,191 is not to be You know, not under— not, it's not 330 00:20:44,191 --> 00:20:47,896 underwhelming to hear these stories. Like, these are impressive stories of the 331 00:20:47,977 --> 00:20:51,554 foundations of comedy and the beginnings of those humble 332 00:20:51,586 --> 00:20:55,243 beginnings. But Jeff, how does it relate to today's news? 333 00:20:56,142 --> 00:20:59,767 Well, would you like to find out? Let's jump into it. Ladies and 334 00:20:59,767 --> 00:21:03,344 gentlemen, Poduty presents the news on podcasting on 335 00:21:03,456 --> 00:21:07,242 Podcasting News. The news on the only live 336 00:21:07,242 --> 00:21:10,901 news podcast recorded from the stage. This is, uh, this 337 00:21:10,917 --> 00:21:14,578 first one is coming to us from Spotify out in Germany. They built this 338 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:18,431 club called the Legends Club, and it's, it was exclusively 339 00:21:18,528 --> 00:21:22,301 for podcasters who have had 100 million streams. So, you know, 340 00:21:22,381 --> 00:21:26,058 obviously these are bigger podcasters in Germany, but they're building these 341 00:21:26,090 --> 00:21:29,848 small theater spaces, these intimate spaces for 342 00:21:29,848 --> 00:21:33,573 people to come in and listen to these podcasts and be 3 or 343 00:21:33,621 --> 00:21:37,459 4 rows away to get that feeling of when you're listening to 344 00:21:37,475 --> 00:21:40,702 a podcast, you kind of feel like you're in the room. Well, in this case, 345 00:21:40,943 --> 00:21:44,716 you're actually in the room, and you're only 4 or 5 rows away 346 00:21:44,716 --> 00:21:48,506 from the, the main speakers. And this concept is very 347 00:21:48,506 --> 00:21:51,829 similar to what, you know, I'm showing you and demonstrating here in this theater space. 348 00:21:52,407 --> 00:21:56,084 It's about connecting with your audience, connecting in new ways. 349 00:21:56,357 --> 00:22:00,163 And Spotify sees this, sees that this is a very impactful way 350 00:22:00,677 --> 00:22:04,468 to connect with the podcasters. This Legends Club that they're calling it, 351 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:08,613 I think they've done a couple of these pop-ups like this, these small intimate 352 00:22:08,709 --> 00:22:12,517 rooms where it's a VIP guest maybe, or they're 353 00:22:12,517 --> 00:22:16,180 selling tickets to bring in the fans of the show, and 354 00:22:16,212 --> 00:22:19,827 they're getting this immersive experience, something you can't just get from an 355 00:22:19,827 --> 00:22:23,393 MP3 file. This is, you know, being in the room, being 356 00:22:23,570 --> 00:22:27,249 there with the podcaster, and really getting that experience firsthand. 357 00:22:28,099 --> 00:22:31,369 Scott, when you see a stage like this, a small room, a small club, 358 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:35,409 what does that— where do you go to in your 359 00:22:35,441 --> 00:22:38,872 mind about what's possible with these types of venues and 360 00:22:39,224 --> 00:22:42,478 these types of setups? Well, I think it's interesting, Jeff, that in 361 00:22:42,511 --> 00:22:46,133 podcasting there has been a progression, and I think it's the 362 00:22:46,133 --> 00:22:49,564 natural next step. And to give an example, as I 363 00:22:49,564 --> 00:22:53,171 mentioned, my audio podcast Stand-up Comedy Host and MC has been on 364 00:22:53,171 --> 00:22:56,172 about 7 years and has a pretty large audience and 365 00:22:56,926 --> 00:23:00,554 always a lot of fun. And I've had many live interviews on that show, 366 00:23:01,260 --> 00:23:05,080 but it also led me to just a year 367 00:23:05,128 --> 00:23:08,965 ago starting my first— and I fought it for a while because 368 00:23:08,965 --> 00:23:12,335 it's been going on for about 3 years, and that's video 369 00:23:12,335 --> 00:23:16,011 podcasting, right, where people were showing the interviews 370 00:23:16,123 --> 00:23:19,879 and showing entertainment through a video podcast. So I started 371 00:23:19,879 --> 00:23:22,783 my video podcast about a year ago. But now, 372 00:23:24,145 --> 00:23:27,654 a couple years into video, what we're doing is we're 373 00:23:27,654 --> 00:23:31,004 making it, as you said, more interactive, more immersive, 374 00:23:31,436 --> 00:23:34,994 because not only is there an audio podcast, not only can you watch it on 375 00:23:35,122 --> 00:23:38,151 video if you have the time and the screen in front of you, but you 376 00:23:38,167 --> 00:23:41,500 can actually personally attend the event, 377 00:23:41,932 --> 00:23:45,666 be a part of it, be a part of the audience, and interact 378 00:23:45,762 --> 00:23:49,467 with the host and the guest. Making it, you know, 379 00:23:49,932 --> 00:23:53,095 as I said, the natural progression in the entertainment life of 380 00:23:53,143 --> 00:23:56,787 podcasting. And I am not surprised they're doing it. I will 381 00:23:56,787 --> 00:23:59,757 say I'm surprised they're doing it in Germany. There's not a lot of people with 382 00:23:59,757 --> 00:24:03,080 a sense of humor there, but hey, there's some good podcasters. 383 00:24:03,738 --> 00:24:07,495 Well, there's always this thing about when people design things in Germany, 384 00:24:08,009 --> 00:24:11,701 it has to have more than one purpose. So everything they design, like a 385 00:24:11,701 --> 00:24:15,522 bottle opener, is also like a switchblade or something like Everything has 386 00:24:15,554 --> 00:24:19,265 to have multi-purposes. So I'm sure that they designed this room 387 00:24:19,313 --> 00:24:22,927 as a podcast studio, but I'm sure if you turn the tables around, it's like 388 00:24:22,943 --> 00:24:26,606 a poker room or something too. Yeah, I heard they're doing light porn, 389 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,851 but who knows? Das, das 390 00:24:29,851 --> 00:24:33,690 gut. I speak German too. I don't know 391 00:24:33,690 --> 00:24:37,079 if you know that. Idle. Turn into das 392 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:40,822 gut. Das gut. We're going to our second 393 00:24:40,838 --> 00:24:44,368 story. Speaking of boulders, right? Where, uh, podcasters play a 394 00:24:44,368 --> 00:24:48,037 visible role at the Boulder International Film Festival, 395 00:24:48,053 --> 00:24:51,402 highlighting how podcasts are becoming part of major cultural and 396 00:24:51,819 --> 00:24:55,424 literary events. Several live podcast recordings will take 397 00:24:55,424 --> 00:24:58,437 place during the festival, including appearances from 398 00:24:58,645 --> 00:25:02,395 broadcasters and creators discussing books, culture, and 399 00:25:02,395 --> 00:25:06,032 current events. Notably, actor and podcast host Alec 400 00:25:06,096 --> 00:25:09,589 Baldwin is connected to the festival's podcast programming 401 00:25:10,006 --> 00:25:13,490 showing how podcasting is increasingly intersecting with 402 00:25:13,619 --> 00:25:17,263 publishing, journalism, and live stage conversations. 403 00:25:17,970 --> 00:25:20,506 One of the things we're seeing a lot anymore is 404 00:25:21,743 --> 00:25:25,403 conferences, events, and festivals are choosing 405 00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:29,288 podcasts as a form of entertainment during the event instead of 406 00:25:29,288 --> 00:25:32,291 having just a Q&A panel with the audience 407 00:25:33,126 --> 00:25:36,883 or a magician or even a comedian or a musician. They're using 408 00:25:36,979 --> 00:25:40,351 podcasting to fill the time, to 409 00:25:40,511 --> 00:25:44,236 entertain the audience. They're bringing podcasts up on stage as the main 410 00:25:44,236 --> 00:25:47,961 events. Well, it goes back to what I said before. It's kind 411 00:25:48,459 --> 00:25:52,216 of the progression of entertainment. You know, we talked about 412 00:25:52,409 --> 00:25:56,246 stand-up comedy starting in strip clubs and between jazz bands. Now it's an 413 00:25:56,246 --> 00:25:59,682 accepted form of pure entertainment. Well, 414 00:26:00,035 --> 00:26:03,488 then you kind of got into the social media 415 00:26:03,488 --> 00:26:07,100 stage where people were commenting on events 416 00:26:08,128 --> 00:26:11,564 and they'd go to event and then they'd talk about it on social media. Well, 417 00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:15,241 podcasting then took the place of that and went more, 418 00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:19,544 and this is what's great about podcasting, it goes deeper. So instead of a 419 00:26:19,544 --> 00:26:23,205 TikTok video or 3 minutes on an 420 00:26:23,301 --> 00:26:26,946 event, now you can actually talk for half an hour, an hour, 421 00:26:27,476 --> 00:26:30,937 on an event, about an event, from, with people from the 422 00:26:30,937 --> 00:26:34,174 event as a podcast. Well, now, 423 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:38,629 as you mentioned, Jeff, just this recent last year or so, 424 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:42,748 people are realizing that the interaction of the 425 00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:46,610 audience is so important to the experience, makes it more immersive, 426 00:26:47,042 --> 00:26:50,792 makes that event more important. They're 427 00:26:50,792 --> 00:26:54,142 now having the podcast with the guest 428 00:26:54,255 --> 00:26:57,831 about the event at the event. So what they're 429 00:26:57,847 --> 00:27:01,231 doing is they're bringing the audience into the 430 00:27:01,231 --> 00:27:05,048 podcast. And that is, I already mentioned, I'm reiterating 431 00:27:05,144 --> 00:27:08,816 myself a little bit. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But what it is, is 432 00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:12,649 where the audience can now participate. They're not just 433 00:27:12,778 --> 00:27:16,578 listening to a podcast or just watching a podcast. Now 434 00:27:16,707 --> 00:27:19,818 they're a part of the experience. And the event 435 00:27:19,834 --> 00:27:23,667 producers, the event planners love this because it makes 436 00:27:23,667 --> 00:27:27,036 the event that much more immersive, informational, and 437 00:27:27,116 --> 00:27:30,821 exciting for the audience. Easier to sell tickets. Lots of 438 00:27:30,821 --> 00:27:34,590 fun. In fact, I'm a regular at Podfest, which is held 439 00:27:34,590 --> 00:27:38,343 down in Florida where podcasters get together and talk about the 440 00:27:38,343 --> 00:27:40,252 industry and live 441 00:27:41,728 --> 00:27:45,545 interviews and interaction with Podfest as it's happening is 442 00:27:45,641 --> 00:27:49,170 one of the biggest hits of the event. One of the things I like to 443 00:27:49,218 --> 00:27:52,599 say is a nice benefit of podcasting at these 444 00:27:52,632 --> 00:27:56,434 conferences, everything at that conference is already 445 00:27:56,434 --> 00:28:00,196 about the subject that you're probably discussing. So if you're invited 446 00:28:00,228 --> 00:28:04,069 to a conference, everybody at that conference already knows, 447 00:28:04,246 --> 00:28:08,086 likes, and loves what you're talking about. That's completely different than walking into 448 00:28:08,118 --> 00:28:11,310 a comedy room in Detroit or a comedy room in Utah. 449 00:28:11,987 --> 00:28:15,251 You don't know what the audience is like or what they're expecting. But with 450 00:28:15,283 --> 00:28:18,938 podcasting, if you go to a conference that's about, in this 451 00:28:19,034 --> 00:28:22,465 case it was, you know, about TV shows and you're an actor, Alec Baldwin, 452 00:28:23,282 --> 00:28:26,905 chances are pretty good that audience has already warmed up to entertainment 453 00:28:26,905 --> 00:28:30,752 stories, to hearing about Alec Baldwin and being in that room and 454 00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:34,568 hearing those stories. So going where your audience already is 455 00:28:34,696 --> 00:28:38,127 and going where your audience has already warmed up is a great way to 456 00:28:38,431 --> 00:28:41,494 think about how do you position your podcast? How do you How do you get 457 00:28:41,494 --> 00:28:45,028 in front of the right people? Find the places they're already gathering and go there. 458 00:28:45,414 --> 00:28:49,044 Well, and you're so right about that, Jeff. And again, I relate 459 00:28:49,044 --> 00:28:52,771 everything to the stand-up comedy industry, but as you mentioned, uh, 460 00:28:52,819 --> 00:28:55,807 it used to be done in the back of a Chinese restaurant. Well, guess what? 461 00:28:55,871 --> 00:28:59,646 That wasn't where quote unquote the comedy audience was. You had to try 462 00:28:59,646 --> 00:29:03,068 to create it, and it made it very difficult, but those difficulties 463 00:29:03,485 --> 00:29:07,276 really helped the comics hone their material. Well, then you put 464 00:29:07,276 --> 00:29:11,036 stand-up comedy in a stand-up comedy club, and 465 00:29:11,116 --> 00:29:14,394 that audience is there for comedy. So they're much more receptive, 466 00:29:14,828 --> 00:29:18,588 much more open to whatever the entertainer is going to say. And not 467 00:29:18,588 --> 00:29:22,364 only was that beneficial to the entertainers that they had an audience that 468 00:29:22,364 --> 00:29:26,157 was there for comedy, but it made it better for the audience 469 00:29:26,157 --> 00:29:29,981 because they knew there was a symbiotic relationship between 470 00:29:30,013 --> 00:29:33,516 the comics and the audience because they were having a shared 471 00:29:33,789 --> 00:29:37,572 moment. That will never happen before, will never happen again. 472 00:29:37,636 --> 00:29:41,161 That show, that moment, that joke is only going to 473 00:29:41,161 --> 00:29:44,974 happen once in time, and they were a part of it. You move that into 474 00:29:45,087 --> 00:29:48,612 event planning and doing podcasting interviews and event, 475 00:29:49,076 --> 00:29:52,842 you've now taken something that was maybe up on a shelf as an 476 00:29:52,842 --> 00:29:55,966 audio or a video file, and now you're in it. 477 00:29:56,527 --> 00:30:00,212 You're a part of it, and you can engage with it, maybe 478 00:30:00,212 --> 00:30:03,835 change what happens. You know, ask a question that takes the guest down a 479 00:30:03,835 --> 00:30:07,461 different path. I mean, it's so much more fun, so much more 480 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:11,296 interactive. It really helps build the audience for 481 00:30:11,296 --> 00:30:15,116 whatever topic. At Podfest, it's about podcasting. But like you said, 482 00:30:15,629 --> 00:30:19,368 at a TV show event, and then you have a podcast about TV shows, 483 00:30:19,721 --> 00:30:23,412 guess what? Everyone's engaged in that topic and now they're a 484 00:30:23,412 --> 00:30:27,071 part of the excitement. It really builds 485 00:30:27,408 --> 00:30:30,039 all that energy and excitement to the benefit of everybody. 486 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:35,271 Yeah, the thing that I didn't recognize when I started this, and you, you 487 00:30:35,351 --> 00:30:39,139 hit on it, about somebody goes in to see that comedy show, that's 488 00:30:39,283 --> 00:30:43,007 that performance, the way that it happened that night is the only time 489 00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:46,168 it's going to happen like that in the history of the world. And same with 490 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,747 podcasting. You and I can't go to Cleveland tomorrow and do this 491 00:30:49,747 --> 00:30:53,518 show. This show is happening once and one time only with these 492 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:56,359 6 stories, with you and I talking about these things. 493 00:30:57,096 --> 00:31:00,862 Either you're there or you're not. And it's so unique and it's 494 00:31:00,862 --> 00:31:03,971 so special to have that performance, to have that live show. 495 00:31:04,724 --> 00:31:08,570 It's not going to happen again. It'll never repeat itself unless 496 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:12,160 you're there immersed in the moment or you catch the recording, but 497 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,942 you'll never see it performed again. We're not taking this show on the road. 498 00:31:16,647 --> 00:31:19,243 Yeah, I mean, things you just never know are going to happen. 499 00:31:21,294 --> 00:31:24,872 Boing! Well, let's go to Sydney and see what's going to happen 500 00:31:25,306 --> 00:31:28,983 at the radio. Podcasters and writers are uniting 501 00:31:29,481 --> 00:31:32,628 at the Sydney Writers Festival. Wait a minute, is this a 502 00:31:32,628 --> 00:31:36,369 protest or are they uniting for fun? This one 503 00:31:36,417 --> 00:31:40,014 is for fun, I think. Fun and profit. Ah, that's 504 00:31:40,014 --> 00:31:43,610 always good. Profit is always good. Yes, I'm an entrepreneur. 505 00:31:44,349 --> 00:31:47,769 We've got radio hosts, journalists, authors, and podcasters will record 506 00:31:47,801 --> 00:31:51,510 conversations in front of live audiences throughout the event. This 507 00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:54,914 approach treats podcast conversations the same way literary 508 00:31:54,946 --> 00:31:58,479 festivals have traditionally treated author talks and panel 509 00:31:58,479 --> 00:32:02,107 discussions, reinforcing the idea that podcasts are 510 00:32:02,172 --> 00:32:05,415 becoming an accepted format for live cultural 511 00:32:05,624 --> 00:32:09,172 dialogue. And kind of sounds like we've hit on this story already, but 512 00:32:09,461 --> 00:32:13,058 again, going to the places where your audience is already 513 00:32:13,090 --> 00:32:16,863 meeting is one of the best strategies for your podcast. If 514 00:32:16,863 --> 00:32:20,652 you're thinking about what can I do beyond just recording at home in 515 00:32:20,652 --> 00:32:23,927 my mom's basement, how can I take this on the road, or how can I 516 00:32:23,927 --> 00:32:27,555 meet people who are like me? Start thinking about conferences, start thinking 517 00:32:27,555 --> 00:32:31,135 about events and festivals. There's things in your industry 518 00:32:31,697 --> 00:32:35,421 that are already supporting what you're trying to build, right? 519 00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:39,386 And participating is so important because it, again, it 520 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:43,737 connects you to the industry, to the people in the industry, to 521 00:32:43,817 --> 00:32:47,459 the topic. What's great about the writers event 522 00:32:47,908 --> 00:32:51,258 is that everything we're talking about, whether it's podcasting, 523 00:32:51,370 --> 00:32:55,200 comedy, even music, it all starts with the 524 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,047 written word. And you have to be able to sit down and 525 00:32:59,047 --> 00:33:02,877 write down a thought to build on it. And I know 526 00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:07,477 some people think that in stand-up comedy that the comics 527 00:33:07,477 --> 00:33:11,291 use their acting skills to make it sound like they— ooh, I just came 528 00:33:11,339 --> 00:33:15,025 up with this idea of driving down the street and something funny happens. Oh, there's 529 00:33:15,025 --> 00:33:18,456 a cow. I'm going to go right over it. Right? No, no, no. He had 530 00:33:18,456 --> 00:33:22,176 to sit down, write down the basics of that concept, 531 00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:25,913 that joke, and build upon it, 532 00:33:26,474 --> 00:33:30,179 doing it over and over and over again. Much like a writer writes 533 00:33:30,323 --> 00:33:33,979 a poem or a short story or a novel. It doesn't just sit 534 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:37,075 down and flow out of the pen or out of the typewriter or out of 535 00:33:37,075 --> 00:33:40,474 a computer. I'm sorry, it's 2026. It is 536 00:33:40,811 --> 00:33:44,660 rewritten and rewritten and rewritten. And then you have your editor look at it 537 00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:48,575 and the subeditor and the executive editor. And it is worked on 538 00:33:48,591 --> 00:33:51,625 over and over. And I think what they're finding is 539 00:33:52,203 --> 00:33:55,800 podcasting is a part of 540 00:33:55,896 --> 00:33:59,637 that whole experience of writing. And I 541 00:33:59,685 --> 00:34:02,961 think it's just great that in Australia they're bringing those people 542 00:34:02,977 --> 00:34:06,718 together to not only write and talk about the topic of 543 00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:09,993 writing, but by using podcasting, they can now 544 00:34:10,379 --> 00:34:14,007 see it happen right before their eyes. How does that idea come 545 00:34:14,055 --> 00:34:17,874 about and how did you build on that idea using your own experiences 546 00:34:17,986 --> 00:34:21,806 or somebody else's? And a podcast, as I've mentioned a couple of times, 547 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,849 goes deeper than regular conversation. If you're having a good 548 00:34:25,849 --> 00:34:29,428 interview, right? I mean, much like you, Jeff, because you're amazing, 549 00:34:29,925 --> 00:34:33,616 you have to ask a great question and then shut up and 550 00:34:33,616 --> 00:34:36,729 listen, right? That's the key to being a good 551 00:34:36,906 --> 00:34:40,660 interviewer is that you have to be prepared. You 552 00:34:40,756 --> 00:34:44,347 have to have written something yourself, ask the right questions, 553 00:34:44,684 --> 00:34:48,098 and then let your guest bring their experiences and their 554 00:34:48,146 --> 00:34:51,977 opinions and their ideas to the public. And in Sydney, Australia, 555 00:34:52,009 --> 00:34:55,712 they're doing it in the right way through this writers event. It's exciting. 556 00:34:57,283 --> 00:35:00,890 You mentioned 3 things in there: comedians, podcasters, public 557 00:35:00,890 --> 00:35:04,384 speakers. And, you know, how do you get good at those things? And 558 00:35:04,977 --> 00:35:08,617 it's through the repetition. It's through doing it. Over and over 559 00:35:08,681 --> 00:35:12,260 again. And I've heard people describe it as it's like having like a muscle, 560 00:35:12,902 --> 00:35:16,144 and if you want to strengthen that muscle, you got to do those repetitions. You 561 00:35:16,144 --> 00:35:19,626 have to build up that muscle, and you only can do that 562 00:35:19,963 --> 00:35:23,558 by repeating it over and over again. And when you mention the comedian 563 00:35:23,574 --> 00:35:27,281 working out a joke, they may have it written down and 564 00:35:27,281 --> 00:35:31,116 they may just try one word in a different place for one night, and 565 00:35:31,116 --> 00:35:34,534 that's the only chance they get to see if that was the right move on 566 00:35:34,582 --> 00:35:37,678 that joke, and then they got to do it again tomorrow. But those 567 00:35:37,775 --> 00:35:41,400 repetitions over weeks, over months, really working out the 568 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,186 spacing, the timing, strengthening that muscle from the 569 00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:48,907 stage, strengthening how do I present this to an audience— those 570 00:35:49,019 --> 00:35:52,789 repetitions are what make you great. And that's— you can go 571 00:35:52,789 --> 00:35:56,591 to these types of festivals, you can host your show because you've done all 572 00:35:56,655 --> 00:36:00,489 those repetitions. All those previous episodes have taught you how to 573 00:36:00,489 --> 00:36:04,072 get on a microphone how to entertain a crowd, it's 574 00:36:04,282 --> 00:36:07,999 through doing it over and over and over again. It's not always the most 575 00:36:08,015 --> 00:36:11,816 glamorous way to talk about how do you get better, but you got to do 576 00:36:11,816 --> 00:36:15,156 it 100 times, 1,000 times, over and over and over. 577 00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:19,770 Well, what's interesting is a lot of people don't think about all 578 00:36:19,948 --> 00:36:23,300 entertainment this way, but whether you're a writer, a musical performer, 579 00:36:23,770 --> 00:36:27,509 an actor, a dancer, or a stand-up comic, or even a 580 00:36:27,638 --> 00:36:30,946 podcaster, what you gain from the 581 00:36:30,946 --> 00:36:34,752 experience of doing it over and over is the wisdom to doing it right, but 582 00:36:34,784 --> 00:36:38,382 you're also trying different things. You know, we always 583 00:36:38,414 --> 00:36:42,172 tell people that want to get into podcasting, quit talking about it and just do 584 00:36:42,188 --> 00:36:45,979 it, because until you do it over and over and see and hear 585 00:36:46,107 --> 00:36:49,704 your own mistakes, you won't be able to fix them. And 586 00:36:49,801 --> 00:36:53,414 it's such an important part of the experience, just like a 587 00:36:53,414 --> 00:36:57,203 writer that has to write and then it's edited and rewritten and edited again 588 00:36:57,203 --> 00:37:00,409 and rewritten again, or a joke is worked on over and over and over to 589 00:37:00,409 --> 00:37:04,256 get the right patter down. Even a magician, when they're doing an 590 00:37:04,256 --> 00:37:07,655 illusion, they have to talk. It's called the patter 591 00:37:08,104 --> 00:37:11,887 of a trick, and they want to get that just right and the timing 592 00:37:11,935 --> 00:37:15,686 just right because, you know, the audience is looking here while over here they're doing 593 00:37:15,702 --> 00:37:19,405 the magic, right? And it all has to come together, 594 00:37:19,725 --> 00:37:23,557 and it's done through practice over and over and over. And I know your audience 595 00:37:23,557 --> 00:37:26,987 will find this shocking. I just started public speaking last week, and 596 00:37:27,324 --> 00:37:30,500 I think I'm pretty good. Doing all right. 597 00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:34,849 Yeah, yeah, of course I've been in sales and on 598 00:37:34,882 --> 00:37:38,605 stage literally thousands of times, so I am a little 599 00:37:38,653 --> 00:37:41,895 comfortable with a microphone. But, uh, it is, uh, 600 00:37:42,168 --> 00:37:45,763 practiced, and, and much like you, Jeff, it, it is 601 00:37:45,875 --> 00:37:49,646 the definition of being a professional. Well, you 602 00:37:49,646 --> 00:37:53,466 know, somebody who's only done it once or twice, not that many 603 00:37:53,498 --> 00:37:57,270 times on camera, is our second story. Mariska Hargitay, I don't 604 00:37:57,270 --> 00:38:01,010 know if you ever heard of her, uh, you probably first time got lucky, 605 00:38:01,106 --> 00:38:04,316 I think, on this one, but she's going to be at the Napa Valley Stream 606 00:38:04,316 --> 00:38:07,687 Fest. The Emmy-winning actress Mariska Hargitay will 607 00:38:07,703 --> 00:38:11,523 participate in a live taping of The Hollywood Reporter's Awards 608 00:38:11,635 --> 00:38:15,199 Chatter podcast before receiving the festival's Icon 609 00:38:15,247 --> 00:38:18,938 Award. The conversation will take place on stage at the 610 00:38:18,938 --> 00:38:22,518 Upton Theater in Napa and will later be released as a podcast 611 00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:26,288 episode. The event highlights how podcasts are increasingly becoming 612 00:38:26,625 --> 00:38:30,460 the centerpiece of film and television festivals, allowing 613 00:38:30,636 --> 00:38:34,342 audiences to experience celebrity interviews live. 614 00:38:34,808 --> 00:38:37,631 And this is a great mix of doing a live show— 615 00:38:39,541 --> 00:38:43,086 I only get 30 minutes of this voice— it's a great, a great 616 00:38:43,086 --> 00:38:46,696 example of doing a live show, recording it in front of the audience, 617 00:38:47,017 --> 00:38:50,566 but then having this asset that you can repurpose over and over 618 00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:54,224 again as a podcast episode, as YouTube 619 00:38:54,224 --> 00:38:57,991 Shorts or vertical videos. It's a great way to, to get 620 00:38:57,991 --> 00:39:01,614 that recording in and have something to build off of for weeks to come. 621 00:39:02,439 --> 00:39:06,269 Well, and it's so true that we're all creating content, and content is 622 00:39:06,398 --> 00:39:09,916 the king in podcasting and any form of entertainment. But what's 623 00:39:10,335 --> 00:39:13,918 exciting is that she won her Emmy because she was literally the 624 00:39:13,870 --> 00:39:17,692 youngest person on Law Order. I mean, that show's been on for 50 freaking years. 625 00:39:17,871 --> 00:39:21,412 So I mean, for her to get on the show, it's and, and Survive, 626 00:39:21,765 --> 00:39:25,100 an episode, got her the Emmy. But I think the fact that her mom was 627 00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:29,029 Jane Mansfield is even more impressive, 628 00:39:29,462 --> 00:39:33,150 because when you're the daughter of a huge celebrity and movie 629 00:39:33,166 --> 00:39:36,838 star like Jane Mansfield, it really gives you a 630 00:39:36,918 --> 00:39:40,270 different view of the world. So she understood before she 631 00:39:40,831 --> 00:39:44,022 got into acting the hard work, the dedication, 632 00:39:44,455 --> 00:39:48,304 the, the so many nos you're going to get as you're trying get into fame. 633 00:39:49,572 --> 00:39:53,200 It's never like they say, oh, you're, you're found, 634 00:39:53,586 --> 00:39:57,101 you know, like Marilyn Monroe, and all of a sudden she's a star. And Jayne 635 00:39:57,133 --> 00:40:00,537 Mansfield was just there and boom, she's a star. No, these were 636 00:40:00,569 --> 00:40:04,406 actresses that worked, you know, really hard doing soap commercials 637 00:40:04,502 --> 00:40:08,210 and in selling condoms, and all of a sudden, you know, they got fame and 638 00:40:08,274 --> 00:40:11,870 fortune. She was able to pass that— Jayne 639 00:40:11,886 --> 00:40:15,481 Mansfield, I'm saying— got to pass that on to her daughter. Who was able 640 00:40:15,577 --> 00:40:19,406 to take that experience from her mom, turned it into 641 00:40:19,438 --> 00:40:23,028 an acting career, and then win an Emmy on Law and 642 00:40:23,028 --> 00:40:26,777 Order. And who knew? Let's hear it for her. Good job. Good 643 00:40:26,921 --> 00:40:30,639 job. Good job. All right. That's enough. All right. It's just 644 00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:33,539 proof if you stick with it long enough, you could get the awards. 645 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,593 Yeah. Or be the youngest person on the oldest show ever 646 00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:41,374 recorded. The show's been on for 50 years, but she's only 45. So 647 00:40:41,374 --> 00:40:45,224 that's pretty impressive. Yeah, yeah, you never know. Well, let's 648 00:40:45,224 --> 00:40:48,866 go keep it moving. We're going to move right along here. We got Podcast Movement. 649 00:40:48,914 --> 00:40:52,604 We were talking about different types of conferences. You mentioned a podcast 650 00:40:52,604 --> 00:40:56,181 conference called Podfest. Well, Podcast Movement has announced that its 651 00:40:56,309 --> 00:41:00,048 flagship 2026 conference will take place in New York City 652 00:41:00,144 --> 00:41:03,657 for the first time, hosted at the iconic Terminal 5 653 00:41:03,689 --> 00:41:07,411 venue. The multi-day event will include an executive-level 654 00:41:07,524 --> 00:41:10,507 business summit industry networking events, and 655 00:41:10,507 --> 00:41:14,245 creator-focused programming. The move signals that podcasting 656 00:41:14,277 --> 00:41:17,790 has matured into a major media industry and is 657 00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:20,741 increasingly intersecting with advertising, technology, 658 00:41:21,319 --> 00:41:25,024 and entertainment. And they just had a smaller, uh, podcast 659 00:41:25,024 --> 00:41:28,762 movement at South by Southwest this past, uh, couple weeks ago. And 660 00:41:29,179 --> 00:41:32,852 this is another part of that conference, is, is 661 00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:37,265 growing in New York City as their flagship event. At Terminal 5 coming 662 00:41:37,281 --> 00:41:40,716 up. I believe it's in September. I don't have the— September 663 00:41:40,925 --> 00:41:44,666 17th through 18th. So this is another way, if you're thinking about 664 00:41:44,666 --> 00:41:48,181 podcasting, this is where the industry is meeting up. They're meeting at 665 00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:52,034 Podfest in Orlando, they're meeting at Podcast Movement in 666 00:41:52,066 --> 00:41:55,727 New York, and South by Southwest. There's— these events are happening. 667 00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:59,596 These are where you want to be if you're interested in podcasting. Go to where 668 00:41:59,596 --> 00:42:02,389 your audience is. Go to where people like you are at. 669 00:42:03,368 --> 00:42:07,108 Well, Podcast Movement, for anybody in podcasting, is the mothership. 670 00:42:07,702 --> 00:42:11,137 It is one of the biggest conventions of people in the podcast industry, 671 00:42:11,491 --> 00:42:14,605 and they're helping connect the host to the guest, to the 672 00:42:14,685 --> 00:42:18,377 advertisers, to the equipment suppliers. It really is a 673 00:42:18,377 --> 00:42:22,149 catch-all for anything to do with podcasting. And for those who don't know, it 674 00:42:22,149 --> 00:42:25,841 got started in Texas and has just grown nationally. And the fact that 675 00:42:25,841 --> 00:42:29,677 they're announcing they're going to do a big event in New York is actually huge 676 00:42:29,773 --> 00:42:33,500 news. Because— and Jeff, you just brought it to your audience. This is the 677 00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:37,243 news. Podcast Movement in 678 00:42:37,323 --> 00:42:40,761 New York City is going to be huge because it gets literally 679 00:42:40,777 --> 00:42:44,231 thousands of people down to Texas. Imagine what it'll do in New York. 680 00:42:44,793 --> 00:42:48,327 And much like Podfest— now, Podfest is like the 681 00:42:49,548 --> 00:42:53,066 little brother of Podcast Movement. It's a little more intimate, 682 00:42:53,146 --> 00:42:56,487 smaller event, but it's growing. But it's been 683 00:42:56,857 --> 00:43:00,117 happening in Fort Lauderdale and in 684 00:43:00,293 --> 00:43:03,633 Orlando for the last several years. I believe it just had the 12th annual 685 00:43:04,147 --> 00:43:07,679 and it's doing very well. The guy that runs it, Chris, does an amazing 686 00:43:07,775 --> 00:43:11,452 job. But Podfest is a little bit smaller, a 687 00:43:11,452 --> 00:43:14,326 little bit more intimate. And as I said, 688 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,725 Podcast Movement is like the mothership for podcasting. 689 00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:22,723 And what's great is if you can't make it to Texas or you can't make 690 00:43:22,723 --> 00:43:26,381 it to New York, They have a live version that 691 00:43:26,397 --> 00:43:30,004 goes out much like your show, Jeff, but then they also record a lot of 692 00:43:30,004 --> 00:43:33,468 the talks and a lot of the courses and classes they teach. 693 00:43:33,853 --> 00:43:36,258 And you could pick those up through their website, 694 00:43:36,322 --> 00:43:40,106 podcastmovement.com. So if you get a chance and 695 00:43:40,106 --> 00:43:43,521 you're interested in podcasting, check out either 696 00:43:43,537 --> 00:43:46,889 Podfest or Podcast Movement and you'll find lots of 697 00:43:46,905 --> 00:43:50,753 tutorials, lots of great talks, and a lot of people 698 00:43:50,769 --> 00:43:54,589 that you can talk to about the podcast industry. And 699 00:43:55,023 --> 00:43:58,524 this one coming up next fall in New York is gonna be massive. 700 00:43:58,958 --> 00:44:02,635 And as Jeff said, if you want to get in on the ground floor and 701 00:44:02,635 --> 00:44:06,345 learn and meet all the people in the industry, Podcast Movement is a great 702 00:44:06,345 --> 00:44:10,119 place to go. It's crazy when you go to conferences for the 703 00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:13,379 first time and all these people that you've been listening to for years, 704 00:44:13,974 --> 00:44:17,732 they're just standing there having a conversation. You know, you're maybe 2 or 705 00:44:17,732 --> 00:44:21,438 3 people away they're— everybody's very friendly at the conferences I've 706 00:44:21,438 --> 00:44:24,805 been to. They want to be there to represent 707 00:44:24,805 --> 00:44:28,509 themselves, their shows, talk about the things that they want to talk 708 00:44:28,509 --> 00:44:32,246 about, talk about the experiences they've had. And most people, you'll 709 00:44:32,246 --> 00:44:35,998 find, if you're courteous and give space, that they're very 710 00:44:36,030 --> 00:44:39,767 approachable. And even though you've been listening to them for years and you 711 00:44:39,879 --> 00:44:43,230 might know them, you can still say hi to these people. You can still shake 712 00:44:43,230 --> 00:44:46,471 their hand. You can thank them for some of their episodes and You don't get 713 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,036 that kind of experience sending an email or making a social 714 00:44:50,068 --> 00:44:53,889 comment, but in these events, there's mixers and there's 715 00:44:54,323 --> 00:44:58,016 different events in the evening where they're just celebrating. They're celebrating their 716 00:44:58,016 --> 00:45:01,661 love of podcasting, and you're in the same room with some of the biggest 717 00:45:01,709 --> 00:45:05,241 movers and shakers in the industry. Yeah, Podfest throws some great 718 00:45:05,241 --> 00:45:08,998 parties, and so does Podcast Movement, and you do get a chance. What's 719 00:45:08,998 --> 00:45:12,498 interesting about podcasting, Jeff, is that it 720 00:45:12,626 --> 00:45:16,380 still really is blue-collar entertainment. In other words, anybody and 721 00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:20,054 everybody could be a podcaster if they want to. And even though there are some 722 00:45:20,166 --> 00:45:23,728 famous podcasters out there, you know, Joe Rogan, for example, 723 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,530 everybody knows the name. But most, even the really popular 724 00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:31,108 ones with hundreds of thousands of followers, there's not this 725 00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:35,038 fandom or stardom that makes them untouchable or 726 00:45:35,086 --> 00:45:38,794 unapproachable. You said it really well. You can meet and talk to 727 00:45:39,163 --> 00:45:41,924 your podcast heroes at either of these events. 728 00:45:42,534 --> 00:45:46,002 And not only will they be talking, but they're going to be out in the 729 00:45:46,002 --> 00:45:49,840 crowds before and after their talks, but also in the 730 00:45:49,856 --> 00:45:53,500 after parties. And as I said, they're very approachable. 731 00:45:53,870 --> 00:45:57,273 And as long as you don't, you know, throw yourself at them naked, they're going 732 00:45:57,273 --> 00:46:00,469 to sit and talk with you and you'll learn things, 733 00:46:00,998 --> 00:46:04,015 even if it's to go up and say, hey, man, I've been listening to your 734 00:46:04,063 --> 00:46:07,813 podcast. It inspired me. Now I have a podcast. And they're 735 00:46:07,813 --> 00:46:11,419 going to congratulate you for taking that move, taking that 736 00:46:11,419 --> 00:46:14,848 step in bringing your value to 737 00:46:14,864 --> 00:46:18,646 podcasting. The secret of podcast events, Jeff, 738 00:46:18,726 --> 00:46:22,460 is to grow more podcasters because there's all these people 739 00:46:22,476 --> 00:46:24,303 that have a voice. Let's hear it. 740 00:46:25,921 --> 00:46:29,239 Yeah, I don't want to diminish what they've 741 00:46:29,367 --> 00:46:32,204 achieved, but micro-celebrities in this 742 00:46:32,204 --> 00:46:35,827 micro-environment where they're not walking around with 743 00:46:35,955 --> 00:46:39,209 10 bodyguards surrounding them, they're not being 744 00:46:39,642 --> 00:46:43,457 bombarded by paparazzi, they're in the crowd, they're walking the same 745 00:46:43,553 --> 00:46:47,224 hallways as you, they're wearing the same badges as you, the name badge, 746 00:46:47,961 --> 00:46:51,792 and they're just approachable. And it's surreal, I think, the 747 00:46:51,824 --> 00:46:55,495 first time you get to experience that, you know, you're just walking down the 748 00:46:55,495 --> 00:46:59,044 hallway with Legends in Podcasting, and they're just 749 00:46:59,044 --> 00:47:02,883 friendly people. They're just, they're just like you and I. Yeah. And 750 00:47:02,883 --> 00:47:06,705 what's nice about Podfest and Podcast Movement is they're both known for 751 00:47:06,738 --> 00:47:10,560 having breakout rooms or open discussions where 752 00:47:10,609 --> 00:47:14,367 5 or 6 people will sit at a table and one of the people 753 00:47:14,367 --> 00:47:17,805 might be a really experienced podcaster and you got 3 or 4 newbies 754 00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:21,900 and they're all talking and sharing ideas and experiences. And 755 00:47:21,932 --> 00:47:25,634 that kind of connection, as we talked about earlier, 756 00:47:26,082 --> 00:47:29,704 when it comes to events, having that live interaction, that, 757 00:47:30,104 --> 00:47:33,822 that connection to the industry and to the people in the industry can 758 00:47:34,014 --> 00:47:37,844 only allow you to build your dream when it comes 759 00:47:37,876 --> 00:47:41,514 to podcasting. It really is an exciting time to be a 760 00:47:41,562 --> 00:47:45,248 podcaster. Yeah, I love it. If you get a chance, even if 761 00:47:45,248 --> 00:47:49,043 there's smaller events in your neighborhood near you, check them out, go 762 00:47:49,043 --> 00:47:52,310 support those local creators, support what people in your 763 00:47:52,585 --> 00:47:56,207 area are building. And then when you can get out to the Podfest, get out 764 00:47:56,224 --> 00:47:58,889 to the podcast movement and take it up to the next level. 765 00:48:00,341 --> 00:48:04,053 Exactly. I agree. I mean, I tried to build myself up. I 766 00:48:04,053 --> 00:48:07,782 drop in occasionally on an AA meeting and talk about myself and, you know, 767 00:48:07,862 --> 00:48:10,560 it always makes for a great podcast addition. 768 00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:15,017 Just start setting up your recording and say, 769 00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:19,081 hey, I'm Scott. I know this is anonymous, but I want 770 00:48:19,081 --> 00:48:22,815 to talk. Well, let's go. Our last 771 00:48:22,815 --> 00:48:26,004 story in a venue with— this is the kind of place that I would love 772 00:48:26,036 --> 00:48:29,353 to do a show. It's in New Orleans. It's in a small 773 00:48:29,625 --> 00:48:33,231 bar. It's, uh, the Rights to Ricky Sanchez podcast recorded a live 774 00:48:33,247 --> 00:48:37,077 episode at the historic Preservation Hall in New Orleans 775 00:48:37,077 --> 00:48:40,794 after a Philadelphia 76ers game. Hosts 776 00:48:40,794 --> 00:48:44,595 Spike Eskin and Mike Levin were joined by guests including 777 00:48:44,691 --> 00:48:48,093 NBA insider Jake Fisher, musician Amos Lee, 778 00:48:48,543 --> 00:48:51,913 and poet Maya Kang. The show blended sports 779 00:48:51,913 --> 00:48:55,604 commentary, storytelling, humor, and live performance in front of a fan 780 00:48:55,604 --> 00:48:58,991 audience, demonstrating how podcasts can transform 781 00:48:59,456 --> 00:49:02,730 fan communities into a live entertainment experience. 782 00:49:03,404 --> 00:49:06,855 And this is kind of like a variety show here. They're talking sports, 783 00:49:07,256 --> 00:49:10,673 they have musicians, they have poets, and they're doing this whole 784 00:49:10,785 --> 00:49:14,634 set in front of a live audience, just entertaining them. A night out 785 00:49:14,634 --> 00:49:18,339 in New Orleans, having some, um, what's the, what's the, 786 00:49:18,467 --> 00:49:22,172 uh, not a gimlet, the, the drink of New Orleans, like a, 787 00:49:23,198 --> 00:49:26,999 uh, Sarsaparilla? Yeah, there's a few. The Hurricane's 788 00:49:26,999 --> 00:49:30,848 the famous one. Yeah, you get those Hurricanes off the street and it's like, you 789 00:49:30,848 --> 00:49:34,344 know, 3/4 alcohol and a little bit of mixer. Uh, but the Mint 790 00:49:34,344 --> 00:49:38,151 Julep if you're into the South, you know, you have a couple things you get. 791 00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:41,813 So I've been to Presentation Hall, and it's an amazing place for 792 00:49:41,909 --> 00:49:45,507 music in New Orleans. That's what I went there for. But what's 793 00:49:45,507 --> 00:49:49,298 nice about all the entertainment places and the bars and the 794 00:49:49,298 --> 00:49:53,073 showrooms in New Orleans is they're very intimate. So even though 795 00:49:53,073 --> 00:49:56,623 these guys were able to take the stage and do their podcast, it 796 00:49:56,687 --> 00:50:00,430 wasn't like 1,000 people or 800 people. It was probably 200 797 00:50:00,702 --> 00:50:04,552 maybe a few less. It's not too huge a hall. But what's great 798 00:50:04,552 --> 00:50:08,402 is that intimacy and the interaction of a live audience. And 799 00:50:08,402 --> 00:50:11,113 because they're doing it after— did you say a Sixers game? 800 00:50:12,011 --> 00:50:15,781 Yes. Yeah. So then you got these celebrity sports 801 00:50:15,781 --> 00:50:19,470 people coming in off the cuff, no prepared material, just 802 00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:22,887 talking. And again, that's the beauty of podcasting. 803 00:50:23,304 --> 00:50:27,025 You're having a real conversation with a real person in front of a 804 00:50:27,089 --> 00:50:30,905 real audience. There's nothing more live and invigorating than 805 00:50:30,937 --> 00:50:34,576 that. And these guys picked the perfect venue. In fact, I was a 806 00:50:34,576 --> 00:50:38,230 little shocked they let them do it because this is a hot place to hear 807 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:41,708 some jazz music and other entertainment. And to have a 808 00:50:42,478 --> 00:50:46,293 live podcast in front of that audience, it had to 809 00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:48,697 be riveting and just feel the energy in the room. 810 00:50:50,172 --> 00:50:54,019 Typically don't stop the music in New Orleans to be able to even have 811 00:50:54,019 --> 00:50:57,848 the venue open for the night. Seemed like this had to be a very special 812 00:50:57,848 --> 00:51:01,569 occasion. The owners must have taken it very seriously. They, 813 00:51:01,585 --> 00:51:05,239 because it's music nonstop, doesn't matter when you're down there, 814 00:51:06,010 --> 00:51:09,625 that, that stage is having a performance on it. And to have it 815 00:51:09,625 --> 00:51:13,032 see a podcast is another, another testament to how 816 00:51:13,096 --> 00:51:16,697 popular podcasting is becoming. If they not, if they're not having 817 00:51:16,794 --> 00:51:20,179 music at Preservation Hall, they're going to have a podcast that tells you that 818 00:51:20,616 --> 00:51:24,253 those bar owners, they're those venue owners are looking at 819 00:51:24,301 --> 00:51:28,054 other streams of revenue and sometimes maybe slowing 820 00:51:28,086 --> 00:51:31,470 down. Having a podcast still fills the club 821 00:51:32,256 --> 00:51:35,158 and it's another way to keep, you know, keep people coming in. 822 00:51:35,784 --> 00:51:39,489 Yeah, and you're saying it so well, Jeff, and I think you could see the 823 00:51:39,553 --> 00:51:43,370 theme throughout this episode of your show is 824 00:51:43,546 --> 00:51:47,347 that much like stand-up comedy and musical entertainment, 825 00:51:47,796 --> 00:51:51,610 It's great to listen to, but when you're there, for example, 826 00:51:51,659 --> 00:51:54,848 a band, if you go to see, if you listen to the Eagles on the 827 00:51:54,848 --> 00:51:58,198 radio, you're going, yeah, man, that's pretty good. But you go to an Eagles 828 00:51:58,294 --> 00:52:01,532 concert and you're seeing them live, you're immersed in that 829 00:52:02,061 --> 00:52:05,811 entertainment situation. It means so much more for you. It's so much 830 00:52:05,908 --> 00:52:09,738 more fun. And the same could be said for stand-up comedy. 831 00:52:10,075 --> 00:52:13,136 You know, the analogy is that stand-up comedy in 832 00:52:13,136 --> 00:52:16,985 1985, '86 kind of got popular because Evening at the 833 00:52:16,985 --> 00:52:20,696 Improv and a couple of TV shows put stand-up comedy on TV, 834 00:52:21,307 --> 00:52:25,018 and that kind of brought comedy into the forefront of entertainment. 835 00:52:25,098 --> 00:52:28,809 Guess what, though? It's so much better when you're live 836 00:52:28,954 --> 00:52:32,295 in the comedy club, live in the room, engaging with that 837 00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:35,814 entertainer and being a part of the show. So the same for 838 00:52:35,862 --> 00:52:39,525 podcasting. It's one thing to listen to a podcast or maybe 839 00:52:39,621 --> 00:52:43,396 watch a video podcast, but if you're in an audience and 840 00:52:43,396 --> 00:52:47,071 you're there with the host and the guest and you're part of the event, 841 00:52:47,585 --> 00:52:51,356 whether you engage with it personally or just get to experience 842 00:52:51,356 --> 00:52:55,111 it live, it's going to mean so much more to you and to the host 843 00:52:55,191 --> 00:52:58,946 and to the guest than just a regular podcast. 844 00:52:59,059 --> 00:53:02,894 I mean, that's why I think, Jeff, you're making the point the next 845 00:53:02,894 --> 00:53:06,601 progression in podcasting is doing it live, because when you get 846 00:53:06,601 --> 00:53:09,939 that live audience, the energy, the interactivity 847 00:53:10,452 --> 00:53:13,512 just fills the room and everybody's a part of it. 848 00:53:14,217 --> 00:53:17,823 There's no beating that adrenaline. Yeah, it's electric. 849 00:53:18,303 --> 00:53:22,101 It's one of the most electric forms of entertainment. And we are going to 850 00:53:22,229 --> 00:53:25,962 go from one of the most electric forms to one of the most 851 00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:29,583 dangerous forms in podcasting. We're at the end of the 852 00:53:29,583 --> 00:53:33,285 show. No, I've had so much fun. And the 853 00:53:33,285 --> 00:53:36,986 most dangerous part is this is where I turn the floor completely 854 00:53:37,050 --> 00:53:40,532 over to you. You can plug, promote, talk about anything you'd 855 00:53:40,564 --> 00:53:43,597 like. Scott, the floor is yours. 856 00:53:44,336 --> 00:53:47,562 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm R. Scott Edwards and I am a 857 00:53:47,562 --> 00:53:51,334 podcaster. My audio podcast is Stand-Up Comedy, Your Host 858 00:53:51,334 --> 00:53:54,447 and MC. Check it out for great interviews and live stand-up 859 00:53:55,009 --> 00:53:58,605 comedy entertainment from the '80s and '90s. But if you like new stand-up comedy, 860 00:53:58,877 --> 00:54:02,649 go to my new video podcast, The Tag Team Talent Podcast. 861 00:54:02,890 --> 00:54:06,694 That's The Tag Team Talent Podcast, where me and a co-host introduce 862 00:54:06,662 --> 00:54:10,173 3 fresh comedy videos each and every week, including our 863 00:54:10,173 --> 00:54:13,797 classic rewind. It's always lots of fun. If you get a chance, check it out. 864 00:54:14,102 --> 00:54:17,389 And my website, the Stand-Up Comedy Podcast Network, 865 00:54:17,630 --> 00:54:21,462 showcases over 20 different comedy-based podcasts. It has 866 00:54:21,494 --> 00:54:25,262 great videos and pictures and all kinds of great stuff. Be 867 00:54:25,262 --> 00:54:27,748 sure to check it out. And it's been such an honor to be on the 868 00:54:27,748 --> 00:54:29,464 air with Jeff. Thank you, Jeff. 869 00:54:33,970 --> 00:54:37,709 Man, you're incredible. That was great. I had my own 870 00:54:37,709 --> 00:54:41,207 moment. I'm just so excited. I can't 871 00:54:41,207 --> 00:54:44,834 stand up because they might see too much. Yeah. Yeah. 872 00:54:45,460 --> 00:54:48,622 It's an above the belt show, they say. I 873 00:54:48,910 --> 00:54:52,473 don't know what that means. I'm sorry I 874 00:54:52,473 --> 00:54:56,212 mentioned my green thong for St. Patrick's Day. Sorry, folks. Just take that image out 875 00:54:56,212 --> 00:55:00,048 of your mind. So far you mentioned don't throw yourself naked at the green 876 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,671 thong. At the conventions. Don't— you don't want to throw yourself— you might get 877 00:55:03,671 --> 00:55:06,621 slapped. And there was another good one in there. Oh, the 878 00:55:06,717 --> 00:55:09,795 German room when they turn it over at the end of the night. 879 00:55:10,597 --> 00:55:14,316 So those will be some two good clips coming up. But Scott, I really, 880 00:55:14,348 --> 00:55:17,699 I truly appreciate this. This has been so much fun. I hope we can do 881 00:55:17,699 --> 00:55:21,209 this again. Love to have you back on the show. We'll do 6 more stories 882 00:55:21,306 --> 00:55:24,848 another night. Hey, it's been a real pleasure, sir. And ladies and 883 00:55:24,848 --> 00:55:28,584 gentlemen, keep watching the Poduty podcast and learn about podcast news 884 00:55:29,016 --> 00:55:32,368 each and every day from this man, Jeff. He is doing it. What 885 00:55:32,882 --> 00:55:33,974 time is it? 886 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,451 Podcast about podcasting 887 00:56:00,804 --> 00:56:04,466 from the stage. Poduty and 888 00:56:04,578 --> 00:56:08,320 the News Surprise! Poduty 889 00:56:08,593 --> 00:56:11,934 and the News Surprise! The only live news 890 00:56:12,046 --> 00:56:13,990 podcast about 891 00:56:14,214 --> 00:56:17,989 podcasting from the 892 00:56:19,530 --> 00:56:19,643 stage.