1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,460 Unknown: That was one of them times I was in a dressing room 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,700 in Galveston one night, and the oaks were like 20 minutes late, 3 00:00:05,790 --> 00:00:09,000 and I walked - I'm in the dressing room by myself, and the 4 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:13,350 bushes walked in, and I entertained them for like 15 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,100 minutes by myself, which was wild. I had so many questions I 6 00:00:17,220 --> 00:00:20,570 wanted to ask about different things, but I didn't. Did 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,530 you kill Kennedy? 8 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:24,560 He knows who did. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,200 Welcome to a podcast about music and entertainment. Before it all 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,120 goes down the disposal, this is Circling the Drain. 11 00:00:41,030 --> 00:00:43,420 Hey, welcome back to Circling the Dray, and of course, Johnny 12 00:00:43,570 --> 00:00:46,180 Boseman, Johnny B here, Jay Harper over there. 13 00:00:46,570 --> 00:00:50,110 I wasn't sure it was really Johnny B. Are you not wearing a 14 00:00:50,230 --> 00:01:00,750 Waylon Jennings shirt? Oh, Jay, single way I can tell it's 15 00:01:00,870 --> 00:01:01,590 really you these 16 00:01:01,710 --> 00:01:03,240 days, you know, you know better 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,730 than all right. Well, good to see you, Johnny B, and good to 18 00:01:05,790 --> 00:01:09,870 know it's really you. And, of course, James Patrick - I keep 19 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:12,480 referring to him. I just think that's a great name, James 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,080 Patrick. It's nice and good, Karthy. Good first names. Yeah, 21 00:01:16,650 --> 00:01:16,710 yeah, 22 00:01:17,370 --> 00:01:20,690 I could be on the news. James Patrick, for your 6o'clock 23 00:01:21,050 --> 00:01:22,700 nightly night holy news, 24 00:01:22,970 --> 00:01:25,010 or you could be a morning guy, James Patrick. 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Yeah, almost like always, always heard your porn name was 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,710 your first and middle name. What would be your porn name? Mine 27 00:01:36,770 --> 00:01:38,030 would be Chip Terry. Wow, 28 00:01:41,750 --> 00:01:42,940 mine would be kneel down, 29 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,820 I think I might add a rap edge to it, and be warm pee 30 00:01:54,310 --> 00:02:01,710 or big pee, yeah, big D, yeah, and I don't mean Dallas, but 31 00:02:01,740 --> 00:02:04,770 before we venture off into really craziness, which we will 32 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:08,250 anyway, but I've been looking forward to getting this guy on 33 00:02:08,370 --> 00:02:11,310 for quite a while now, but he's always working, he's always 34 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,180 working, but we found some downtime, you know, this guy, he 35 00:02:15,390 --> 00:02:20,210 has been around for a long time, you know, his father, William 36 00:02:20,270 --> 00:02:24,590 Lee Golden from the Oak Ridge Boys, but this cat, he is one of 37 00:02:24,620 --> 00:02:27,830 my favorite singers. I will go down in history saying this. 38 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:30,770 He's one of my favorite entertainers. Chris Golden has 39 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:32,180 joined us. How you doing, brother? 40 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:35,450 Doing great, Johnny P. It's great to be with you today. You 41 00:02:35,570 --> 00:02:35,900 too, Jay. 42 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:39,230 All right, Dave, great to meet you. I can't believe it's, you 43 00:02:39,260 --> 00:02:42,760 know, I've been kind of around you for years, but never had a 44 00:02:42,820 --> 00:02:44,050 chance to meet you. So, it's cool. 45 00:02:44,349 --> 00:02:46,599 Well, we're gonna have a good time today. Maybe we'll get to 46 00:02:46,659 --> 00:02:47,199 know each other. 47 00:02:48,219 --> 00:02:48,279 So, 48 00:02:48,519 --> 00:02:52,149 yeah, we may be scared of one another. Who knows? But no, he's 49 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:56,139 award-winning. If you ever get a chance to go see Chris live, I 50 00:02:57,279 --> 00:03:00,989 would suggest you do so. He plays everywhere, in fact, 51 00:03:01,169 --> 00:03:02,069 churches everywhere. 52 00:03:02,340 --> 00:03:03,030 I do that too. 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:03,660 Theaters, 54 00:03:04,109 --> 00:03:04,169 yeah, 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,440 you name it. This guy will show up, and I mean, you will be 56 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:08,340 entertained 57 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,850 every invitation, an answer to a prayer, big time. 58 00:03:11,969 --> 00:03:15,359 There you go, my brother. But he comes from a very, very rich 59 00:03:15,899 --> 00:03:18,809 musical family. And were you born in Alabama? 60 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:22,550 I was. I was born in Brewton, Alabama, it's a little.on the 61 00:03:22,670 --> 00:03:27,350 map down there, right? You know, it's really close to the Florida 62 00:03:27,410 --> 00:03:28,100 state line. 63 00:03:28,220 --> 00:03:28,280 Yeah, 64 00:03:29,029 --> 00:03:33,499 about 70 miles south of Pence of Montgomery and about 40 miles 65 00:03:33,649 --> 00:03:35,119 north of Pensacola, Florida. 66 00:03:35,390 --> 00:03:37,940 Yeah, in fact, I think you're close to where my father was 67 00:03:38,060 --> 00:03:41,590 born. He was born in a little town called Boothton, which is 68 00:03:41,710 --> 00:03:43,840 no longer there. It's called Booth now. 69 00:03:44,289 --> 00:03:45,639 Wow, but the ton went 70 00:03:46,689 --> 00:03:50,829 away. I think a ton of working left at that time. 71 00:03:50,950 --> 00:03:53,680 Well, the actual community that we grew up in was called 72 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:57,040 Dixonville, and it's.. it is on the state line. So, my 73 00:03:57,130 --> 00:04:01,290 grandfather had the last farm, actually it's the first farm 74 00:04:01,530 --> 00:04:04,680 south of the airport, and the last farm in Alabama, so the end 75 00:04:04,710 --> 00:04:08,520 of the cotton field is Florida. Yeah, and my dad was born right 76 00:04:08,610 --> 00:04:12,660 there on the state line, and my.. I interviewed my 77 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:16,380 grandmother before she passed away, and you know about the 78 00:04:16,620 --> 00:04:20,750 places that she had lived growing up, and in her 90 years 79 00:04:21,170 --> 00:04:24,110 she had lived in four or five, I think it was five different 80 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:27,500 homes, but you could see one from the other. She never moved 81 00:04:27,620 --> 00:04:33,020 out of that quarter mile circle there. So the dad was born on 82 00:04:33,020 --> 00:04:37,520 the backside of our family farm on the Florida line, you know, 83 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:40,240 like the right by the road, and the middle of the road is the 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,510 Florida line, so you could literally throw a rock over it, 85 00:04:43,630 --> 00:04:50,890 you know? When you were five, so that's where we come from. This 86 00:04:52,030 --> 00:04:54,670 don't let this city big city accent fool you, 87 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:57,730 but you know 88 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,630 there's something about that red Alabama clay, I mean. Some great 89 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,280 talent has come out of Alabama. 90 00:05:02,430 --> 00:05:05,160 Yeah, well, down there is kind of where the white sand makes 91 00:05:05,190 --> 00:05:09,630 the red clay. All the creeks and stuff are just solid white sand. 92 00:05:09,690 --> 00:05:12,210 It's beautiful down there, so sort of where the white sand 93 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,170 makes the red clay. And red clay roads, white sandy banks, you 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:16,260 know. 95 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:19,829 There you go. Does your dad still have the house on, was it 96 00:05:19,889 --> 00:05:20,959 Oeno Island down there. 97 00:05:21,380 --> 00:05:24,200 No, I think he lost that in the second divorce. 98 00:05:26,930 --> 00:05:28,070 Happened to all of us, brother. 99 00:05:30,650 --> 00:05:30,710 Yeah, 100 00:05:31,310 --> 00:05:33,890 I hate that, because that half sounded so cool. 101 00:05:34,070 --> 00:05:35,360 It was, it was, 102 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:35,810 in fact, 103 00:05:35,929 --> 00:05:39,469 I saw it from, from a distance. It was a frame, real 104 00:05:39,830 --> 00:05:42,700 well. No, not that. That one wasn't. It might have had a 105 00:05:42,730 --> 00:05:45,280 little bit of an A-frame to it, but it had - it was kind of a 106 00:05:45,460 --> 00:05:49,270 built-around one big main room kitchen, and then just four 107 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:52,120 bedrooms off to the sides, but you know, like everything down 108 00:05:52,210 --> 00:05:57,250 there on stilts and a deck out back. And he had about 150 foot 109 00:05:57,370 --> 00:06:00,810 pier. We used to go at the end and watch the dolphins come by, 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,520 it was great, 111 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,000 tough life. 112 00:06:03,150 --> 00:06:07,230 Yeah, had Kenny Staper was a neighbor, and he come over 113 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:11,280 sometime, the sneer, yeah, pretty cool. Yeah, 114 00:06:11,790 --> 00:06:16,380 so the whole family, all of you guys seem to have followed in 115 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:19,770 your dad's footsteps, because your brother Rusty and you both 116 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,930 got into music. 117 00:06:21,049 --> 00:06:25,309 Well, you know, it was something that Dad, my dad, and his sister 118 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,909 got their start. Music's not something that just started with 119 00:06:28,999 --> 00:06:33,889 my dad. My great grandfather, who had been my dad's 120 00:06:33,979 --> 00:06:37,459 grandfather, he was a holiness preacher, and he played the 121 00:06:37,459 --> 00:06:41,149 fiddle, and he had a radio show called The Old Country Church 122 00:06:41,419 --> 00:06:45,189 Hour on W EBJ in Brewton, Alabama, and my dad and his 123 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,969 sister Lynette, she played the mandolin, piano, and acoustic 124 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:53,049 guitar, and she taught my dad how to play and sing harmonies, 125 00:06:53,979 --> 00:06:56,469 and when they were kids, you know, but I think dad would have 126 00:06:56,469 --> 00:07:00,249 been 10 or 11 years old, they would go over there on Saturdays 127 00:07:00,369 --> 00:07:04,709 and taped the radio show, and they got to be, they were 128 00:07:04,799 --> 00:07:08,729 featured singers on the radio show when he was just a kid. So 129 00:07:09,269 --> 00:07:12,119 my mama's side of the family too, she's one of eight brothers 130 00:07:12,179 --> 00:07:15,629 and sisters, and they all played instruments and sang, they all 131 00:07:15,689 --> 00:07:19,289 played piano, guitars. My granddaddy on my mama's side 132 00:07:19,379 --> 00:07:25,969 played the fiddle and and the saw, when he brought that saw 133 00:07:26,299 --> 00:07:28,699 out at Thanksgiving and Christmas, you knew it was gonna 134 00:07:28,729 --> 00:07:40,599 be a party, anyhow, man. But yeah, so all everything I know 135 00:07:40,689 --> 00:07:49,569 about the saw, I learned anyway. He would bow that would bow the 136 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:55,839 saw. They all played instruments and sang, and so whenever they 137 00:07:55,989 --> 00:07:58,689 sang together, it's like, you know, a lot of family - every 138 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:02,129 family get together on both sides of my family always wound 139 00:08:02,219 --> 00:08:05,159 up around the piano when it was over. After the meal, they'd all 140 00:08:05,249 --> 00:08:07,649 get together and sing, and that's just the way it was, man. 141 00:08:07,799 --> 00:08:14,159 So, music came pretty easy for us, but I gotta say, man, I was 142 00:08:14,279 --> 00:08:21,409 blessed this past Monday, just a couple of days ago, of being 143 00:08:21,469 --> 00:08:24,709 invited to sing down at the Opry House for the Inspirational 144 00:08:24,769 --> 00:08:25,849 Country Music Awards, 145 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,390 yes sir, 146 00:08:26,479 --> 00:08:30,229 and they named me their musician of the year, and a lot of those 147 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,589 folks know me as a singer, but my lot, a lot of them may not 148 00:08:33,619 --> 00:08:36,109 know, is I play most of the instruments on the records that 149 00:08:36,199 --> 00:08:40,179 I do. Oh yeah, but when I got up there, it just kind of hit me, I 150 00:08:40,269 --> 00:08:43,989 thought, well, man, I probably wouldn't have been standing 151 00:08:44,049 --> 00:08:46,149 there, you know. First off, without the good Lord and my 152 00:08:46,299 --> 00:08:50,529 family, but my brother, Rusty, God rest his soul, when he was a 153 00:08:50,619 --> 00:08:54,759 little boy, he saw the Beatles on TV. He wanted to be Ringo, so 154 00:08:55,359 --> 00:08:59,229 he started banging on Charlie chip cans and pots and pans 155 00:08:59,319 --> 00:09:03,389 until they got him a little kid of drums and kind of a cheap 156 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:07,469 kit, and to see if he would get serious with it, and before long 157 00:09:07,589 --> 00:09:11,099 he was about 11 when they, he got a set of Rogers drums, and 158 00:09:12,149 --> 00:09:15,749 and he got good enough to go out on the road with the singing 159 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:18,449 Rambos, which I don't know if you know Dottie Rambo, I mean, 160 00:09:18,629 --> 00:09:22,759 you know, she was the most prolific songwriter, her and 161 00:09:22,819 --> 00:09:27,199 Bill Gaither ever in gospel music. So he was out on the road 162 00:09:27,259 --> 00:09:31,549 with them when he was 13 years old. Then he played with them 163 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:34,099 for a little while, went out with the Oaks at 15, playing 164 00:09:34,159 --> 00:09:39,949 drums, and he saw Elton John on TV, and he said, "Man, I want to 165 00:09:39,949 --> 00:09:43,869 play piano, so he taught himself to play piano, and 166 00:09:44,530 --> 00:09:44,590 he 167 00:09:44,890 --> 00:09:48,160 was playing second keys with the Oaks, but he went out with Larry 168 00:09:48,250 --> 00:09:51,610 Gatlin playing on his records, and, and in concert when he was 169 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:55,120 17. So, all that being said, you know, Rusty was trying to be 170 00:09:55,270 --> 00:09:56,500 like Ringo and Elton, 171 00:09:56,889 --> 00:09:56,949 yeah, 172 00:09:57,220 --> 00:10:00,990 and I was just trying to be like Rusty, yeah. Was trying to play 173 00:10:01,110 --> 00:10:04,860 stuff just to keep up with him, and I remember one night we were 174 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:09,510 fighting over the drumsticks. He was four years older than me, so 175 00:10:09,630 --> 00:10:14,820 he usually won those deals, but I probably.. I'm sure I showed 176 00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:18,120 out and was crying, you know? I was.. I was a big powder of our 177 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:23,960 family. Some things never changed, maybe. But anyway, I 178 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:29,630 was, I was pouting, and my dad took me up to the bedroom, and I 179 00:10:29,780 --> 00:10:33,920 thought he was gonna whip me, but he pulled out this guitar 180 00:10:34,070 --> 00:10:37,160 case, and he had a guitar, and he said, 'Hey, man, instead of 181 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:39,530 y'all fighting over these drumsticks, and you fighting 182 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:42,760 over the same thing, he said, maybe if you learn how to play 183 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:46,570 something else, y'all can play together, and you then you won't 184 00:10:46,570 --> 00:10:47,110 be fighting 185 00:10:47,230 --> 00:10:47,560 it, or 186 00:10:48,070 --> 00:10:48,730 move, and that was 187 00:10:49,270 --> 00:10:52,510 my dad, right then and there, taught me three chords, and I 188 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:55,540 remember the first song that he taught me was Home on the Range 189 00:10:56,710 --> 00:11:00,040 of All Things, it's a cowboy song, you know, three, and he 190 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,090 said, with these saying three chords, you can do, you ain't 191 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:06,750 nothing but Hound Dog, you know, it's home on the Range to Hound 192 00:11:06,750 --> 00:11:11,400 Dog, and that's kind of where the guitar thing started for me. 193 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:16,920 Wow, and I was probably, I think I was in the third grade, and I 194 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:20,160 taught myself how to play guitar from that, and from looking at 195 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,180 books and the little chord charts of where to put your 196 00:11:23,330 --> 00:11:23,960 fingers and 197 00:11:24,410 --> 00:11:25,490 the Mel Bay books, 198 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:29,570 yeah, or actually just song books, you know, they would have 199 00:11:29,660 --> 00:11:32,300 the, they would have the written music, but a lot of times it'd 200 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:35,390 be guitar tabs over it with the little dots where the fingers 201 00:11:35,510 --> 00:11:38,660 went on the frets, and that's how I kind of how I learned how 202 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,720 to play, and and I remember in the third grade I did a little 203 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:49,900 show in school, and I played piano, played guitar, I played 204 00:11:49,990 --> 00:11:53,350 drums, and I did a ventriloquist act, and my brother Rusty drew 205 00:11:53,410 --> 00:11:57,190 the posters for it, and he had them all over the school, you 206 00:11:57,220 --> 00:12:02,580 know, third grade show I was going to be doing, and I've 207 00:12:02,670 --> 00:12:05,280 stayed with the rest of it, but I dropped the ventriloquist. 208 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:13,560 Remember that was it? I forget who, who the.. they had a record 209 00:12:13,740 --> 00:12:17,880 album for this thing, and it was.. they.. it was a Jimmy 210 00:12:18,030 --> 00:12:20,780 O'Day or something like that. Yeah, like you know, they would 211 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:24,170 say, you know, instead of saying the B, like Johnny B, 212 00:12:24,619 --> 00:12:24,679 yeah, 213 00:12:24,889 --> 00:12:29,569 it would say use the letter D, and it's like, you know, the Doy 214 00:12:29,929 --> 00:12:35,539 daughter basket doll, just keep doing it over and over, you 215 00:12:35,569 --> 00:12:42,729 know. It took me a lot of years, but you know, then it finally, 216 00:12:43,239 --> 00:12:45,969 it finally hit me when I got a little older. They were on an 217 00:12:46,119 --> 00:12:50,319 album, I couldn't see what they were doing. They were actually 218 00:12:50,349 --> 00:12:55,479 going, the boy bought a basketball, it sounded just like 219 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:59,770 it. It's good thing you got out of that business. 220 00:13:00,010 --> 00:13:04,350 I did. I got out of.. did I never could get my D's. 221 00:13:10,110 --> 00:13:13,290 Well, you and Rusty, I mean, you guys played music a lot 222 00:13:13,380 --> 00:13:15,360 together. I remember, in 223 00:13:15,450 --> 00:13:15,660 fact, 224 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:21,290 I've told this story many times, but I played a gig when I was 225 00:13:21,350 --> 00:13:25,700 trying to be a musician, be an entertainer, but it was this 226 00:13:25,790 --> 00:13:29,480 little club called, I think, it was the Music Row Club, it's on 227 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,080 Music Row, 228 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:30,380 yeah, 229 00:13:30,709 --> 00:13:33,859 and I think Alan Cartier may have owned that place, 230 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:34,820 I don't remember, 231 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,330 and Buddy Jennings, Waylon's son did the sound, I remember that, 232 00:13:38,719 --> 00:13:38,779 yeah, 233 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:42,310 but you guys, I was a night that you guys were playing, 234 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:43,330 was it the Golden Spear? 235 00:13:43,930 --> 00:13:43,960 I 236 00:13:44,140 --> 00:13:44,320 think the 237 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:44,890 Goldens, 238 00:13:45,010 --> 00:13:46,180 it was the Goldens, I think. 239 00:13:46,450 --> 00:13:46,540 Okay, 240 00:13:46,990 --> 00:13:52,360 and and you guys were so nice because you know we had to, we 241 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,450 were gonna have to set up around your stuff because you were the 242 00:13:55,630 --> 00:13:59,080 main attraction, we were just opening, but the way you guys 243 00:13:59,140 --> 00:14:02,220 were so nice because you told my guys, you said, 'Hey, man, use 244 00:14:02,340 --> 00:14:04,620 our stuff if you want to, that way you don't have to set up 245 00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:08,850 yours. And most, most, you know, most headline acts don't do 246 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:09,210 that. Yeah, 247 00:14:09,330 --> 00:14:11,970 well, I don't know, anybody could be any harder on drums 248 00:14:12,030 --> 00:14:15,030 than I was. So it's like you're not gonna hit them any harder 249 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,410 than I am, bro. Go for 250 00:14:16,590 --> 00:14:19,320 it. How many enemy instruments do you play? 251 00:14:19,890 --> 00:14:20,690 Whatever's left, 252 00:14:20,690 --> 00:14:24,050 because I've seen you do, I mean, I've seen you drum, I've 253 00:14:24,170 --> 00:14:27,260 seen you play piano, and you play guitar, 254 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:29,030 mandolin, 255 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:30,140 yeah, everything, 256 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:30,650 and the saw, 257 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:31,460 right? 258 00:14:32,750 --> 00:14:34,790 I can pull out the saw if I have to, 259 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:37,700 and ventriloquist if asked, right? 260 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:41,919 I've been blessed, man, it's just I'll try to play anything. 261 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:42,219 You know 262 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,580 what's the most obscure one that you play? Mouth harp, maybe. 263 00:14:46,210 --> 00:14:49,180 Oh, well, anybody do that. You just got to be careful with the 264 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:57,100 teeth on that. I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't play 265 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,140 a lot of wind instruments. I do play harmonica. And stuff like 266 00:15:01,260 --> 00:15:05,220 that, but you know, Forrest read instruments, I never, and you 267 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,190 know, trumpets and you know saxes and stuff like that. 268 00:15:08,999 --> 00:15:12,269 So, do you ever read music, or you just all Nashville number 269 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:12,659 system? 270 00:15:12,750 --> 00:15:17,640 No, sir, I don't read, but I, I do know the Nashville number 271 00:15:17,730 --> 00:15:20,280 system. Oh, yeah, had to, had to learn that pretty quick, 272 00:15:20,460 --> 00:15:20,550 right? 273 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,480 Yeah, but I don't read, never did learn how to be, you know, 274 00:15:23,570 --> 00:15:27,380 and I, that's what I, I've said it a lot of times, only God 275 00:15:27,470 --> 00:15:29,930 could take a boy up to Flunk Band in high school and say, 276 00:15:30,140 --> 00:15:32,000 'Hey, man, I'm gonna make you a music guy, 277 00:15:34,610 --> 00:15:35,150 God thing, 278 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,710 yeah, it is a God thing. So, 279 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:39,769 how did you get Nick? I didn't, you know, a lot of people around 280 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:43,239 Nashville, and especially people that have been here for a long 281 00:15:43,359 --> 00:15:44,769 time, will remember Golden Spear 282 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,770 well. You'd have to be here for a little while. It actually 283 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,520 started with when I got out of high school. It was the boys 284 00:15:51,850 --> 00:15:52,210 band, 285 00:15:52,420 --> 00:15:52,480 yeah, 286 00:15:52,659 --> 00:15:56,229 and my brother Rusty. It was Greg Gordon who sang with the 287 00:15:56,349 --> 00:16:03,119 Imperials. He also, he sang lead with the boys band, Steve 288 00:16:03,359 --> 00:16:07,709 Sanders, who at one time took my dad's place with those boys, he 289 00:16:07,859 --> 00:16:12,359 was in that band, and my brother Rusty, and they were putting a 290 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:17,189 group together, and I wound up playing drums with them for 291 00:16:17,189 --> 00:16:19,829 about a year and a half, they were going to take a year and a 292 00:16:19,889 --> 00:16:23,089 half, they were going to take about a year off, and they went 293 00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:25,729 out to Caribou Ranch, signed to deal with Electra Asylum 294 00:16:25,819 --> 00:16:28,669 Records, and back then it was a pop album. This is before 295 00:16:28,789 --> 00:16:33,199 Wrestler's Heart. It's a pretty, you know, I'm saying all that 296 00:16:33,199 --> 00:16:35,119 because I just saw Larry Stewart a while ago. Oh, 297 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,170 yeah, yeah, yeah, 298 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:38,870 my buddy Larry, we played together some. I got to play 299 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,040 drums with those guys for 300 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:40,400 a while. 301 00:16:40,669 --> 00:16:41,199 He brought that 302 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:46,690 first season, and, but it was kind of before that sound became 303 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,760 popular in country music. What we were doing was a little too 304 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:54,340 pop for country and a little too country for pop, but it was 305 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,760 called the boys band, but it wound up being on, you know, 306 00:16:57,910 --> 00:17:01,510 released on the pop charts and stuff, and it was, yeah, we 307 00:17:01,750 --> 00:17:05,850 thought it was country compared to Blondie, and some of that 308 00:17:05,970 --> 00:17:08,970 stuff, but back then, you know, they played a wide variety of 309 00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:13,410 things on rock and roll radio and pop radio. Yeah, they would 310 00:17:13,470 --> 00:17:16,380 play anything from, you know, Journey to the Eagles, and, you 311 00:17:16,410 --> 00:17:18,120 know, the Eagles stuff at Sound Country. 312 00:17:18,810 --> 00:17:18,990 Yep, 313 00:17:19,170 --> 00:17:19,350 that was 314 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,610 more country than anything on country radio right now. I mean, 315 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:31,280 Ben Gile wanted to join a country band, so anyhow, man, it 316 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:36,830 started out as the boys band, and we recorded an album at 317 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:39,860 Electris, I mean, at Caribou Ranch in Netherland, Colorado, 318 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,900 and did that for a little while. I wound up playing with a group 319 00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:46,420 from Canada called Cedar Creek for just a little while. 320 00:17:46,690 --> 00:17:47,530 Yes, we're tall, though. 321 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,640 And then we came back to the started doing the Golden Spear 322 00:17:51,850 --> 00:17:55,900 thing, and it was more of Americana rock and roll kind of 323 00:17:56,140 --> 00:18:00,100 thing, Tom Petty-ish, and we still had a lot of country 324 00:18:00,220 --> 00:18:03,210 influence because we had that three part harmony going even 325 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:06,900 with Golden Spear. We went down to Muscle Shoals, we tried 326 00:18:07,020 --> 00:18:09,690 kicking every, you know, we'd write five songs, go record 327 00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:12,780 them, try to get a record deal, you know, pass. They didn't, 328 00:18:12,780 --> 00:18:15,150 Nashville didn't kind of quite know what to do with us, and 329 00:18:15,570 --> 00:18:21,830 sometimes, you know, that son of one of can be a strike against 330 00:18:21,860 --> 00:18:23,600 you for in certain circles, 331 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:24,230 and that 332 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,150 drives me crazy, because I've met so many, so many kids that 333 00:18:29,180 --> 00:18:32,390 have come from, you know, country, like Robin Young, you 334 00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:35,030 know, Farron Young's son, he was a great talent, 335 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:40,250 a man, you know, we're so proud to have been still making music 336 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,780 and all that, but we, during that time, we went to Muscle 337 00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:47,200 Shoals. I was mainly the drummer at that time. I sang a couple of 338 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:52,090 songs in the show. We went down to Muscle Shoals, and we went to 339 00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:55,300 their B room, Roger Hawkins and David Hood, who were the two. 340 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,600 They were part of the Mount Rushmore of Muscle Shoals and 341 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,200 rhythm sections, really, Barry Beckett was coming to Nashville 342 00:19:04,290 --> 00:19:07,860 and producing Lori Morgan and some other people like that, and 343 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Roger and David kind of wanted to do a little bit of a dip 344 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:15,990 their toe in that thing, that production thing, for a little 345 00:19:16,020 --> 00:19:19,740 while, so we went down there, they sort of took us under their 346 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,090 wing and taught us how to make records, muscle show style, and, 347 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,680 and that education I wouldn't take anything for, but we went 348 00:19:27,710 --> 00:19:31,490 down there, and we had about 35 songs that we had written at 349 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:36,080 that time, and we went into their bee room, and we just 350 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:40,010 recorded everything like a live show, we went down it, so they 351 00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:45,100 could hear what all we did, and out of those 35 songs, we picked 352 00:19:45,220 --> 00:19:48,970 three to re-record, and it happened to be all three that I 353 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:52,420 was singing, and they said, "Man, it's got a little bit more 354 00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:56,350 of a country influence to it. You live in Nashville, you got 355 00:19:56,530 --> 00:20:00,720 country roots, you know, gonna take a little. Bit of the edge 356 00:20:00,930 --> 00:20:03,600 off of some of the guitar sounds and make it a little more 357 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:09,690 palatable to Nashville Radio, and that wound up leading to our 358 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,190 developmental deal that we had with CBS at the time, and so we 359 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:18,030 wound up recording an album for CBS, my brother and I. What my 360 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,680 man Rusty actually with Golden Spear, we dropped, you know, 361 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,420 went from Golden Spear and Mark - it was Mark Spear we had grew 362 00:20:26,570 --> 00:20:29,390 up with Mark in the gospel world too, and it was a type thing 363 00:20:29,420 --> 00:20:33,080 that Mark said, "Man, this more country direction wasn't really 364 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,260 what he was into at the time. He was the singer and one of the 365 00:20:36,380 --> 00:20:40,570 main writers, lead guitar player. He hung with it for a 366 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,240 little while, but he came to us, and he said, "Man, I want a 367 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:55,390 divorce. So we had, we just went with the Goldens that time, and 368 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:59,170 me and Rusty had actually sort of split at the time. Rusty was 369 00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:02,100 doing some things with Dee Murray and playing with another 370 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800 group here in Nashville, and I went over to Memphis and 371 00:21:04,830 --> 00:21:09,450 recorded some things together, brought it back and took it to 372 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:14,400 CBS, who we never did do a deal with CBS with the Golden Spear 373 00:21:14,580 --> 00:21:19,500 Goldens thing at that time, but I was bringing the stuff to CBS 374 00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:23,150 as a solo act, and I had recorded some things over there 375 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:26,210 in Memphis. Three songs with Larry Client Crane from John 376 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:29,150 Mellencamp's band. Kenny Lovelace played fiddle on it. 377 00:21:29,660 --> 00:21:32,330 He, he's with the killer, you know? He was, he plays guitar 378 00:21:32,420 --> 00:21:35,630 with him, but he's a great fiddle player. And Michael 379 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,680 Rhodes played bass, and I played the rest, I think, between me 380 00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:45,400 and Larry Crane from Mellencamps, man, and brought it 381 00:21:45,460 --> 00:21:50,710 over there, and we got a deal that day, and they said, you 382 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:54,970 know, what we've got like a dozen guys on our label right 383 00:21:55,030 --> 00:21:59,110 now, would you think about doing a group, and I said that would 384 00:21:59,170 --> 00:22:04,110 just kind of been nine months ago that we sort of went had a 385 00:22:04,170 --> 00:22:07,950 group together for three years, it broke up, and I said I would 386 00:22:08,010 --> 00:22:13,170 not, and groups break up, but families for life, and I'll do a 387 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:14,070 thing with my brother. 388 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:14,460 Yeah, 389 00:22:15,210 --> 00:22:17,430 I'd love to, you know, because he was writing some of the songs 390 00:22:17,550 --> 00:22:20,990 I was recording anyway, and said, you know, we've been a 391 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,830 team since birth, and families don't break up, so I'll do 392 00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:29,360 something with my brother, and that's how kind of the Goldmans 393 00:22:29,450 --> 00:22:30,140 got back together. 394 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,020 Well, you guys were really good together, you and Rusty. Well, 395 00:22:33,710 --> 00:22:35,000 you just had a great sound. 396 00:22:35,210 --> 00:22:38,450 He was the rocker, and I was, you know, he was. I sang more 397 00:22:38,450 --> 00:22:42,670 about Mama and Home, and he sang more about stoned on love? Yeah, 398 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,190 he was the rocker man. 399 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,360 He was man. 400 00:22:49,420 --> 00:22:49,690 He was a 401 00:22:49,780 --> 00:22:50,140 force. 402 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,980 Boy, anytime he was on stage, I mean, I've never seen a dude. He 403 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,920 just comes alive. He would come alive on stage. 404 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:57,250 He had 405 00:22:57,340 --> 00:22:58,990 kicked that piano stool, and oh 406 00:22:59,260 --> 00:22:59,320 yeah, 407 00:22:59,710 --> 00:23:04,740 he would give it his best Elton Jerry Lee ever. He was there to 408 00:23:04,890 --> 00:23:07,890 put on a show, but you know, we all come from a long line of 409 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,430 look at me. 410 00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:09,030 Yeah, 411 00:23:13,710 --> 00:23:13,890 you know, 412 00:23:14,370 --> 00:23:18,000 well, and I love that. You guys see, I loved when your dad put 413 00:23:18,060 --> 00:23:23,120 together this group that had come out just a couple of years 414 00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:25,700 ago, after Covid, really around Covid time, 415 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:25,940 yeah, 416 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:29,120 and didn't he, that's that was the whole impetus for that was 417 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,170 that he got tired of watching, you know, the negative stuff on 418 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:34,940 news, just sitting around. 419 00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:39,320 Well, man, I'll backtrack just a little bit on that golden still, 420 00:23:39,530 --> 00:23:44,950 so whenever we, you know, we did an album for CBS Records, and 421 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,090 then the classic National Story, you know, Sony comes in by CBS, 422 00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:53,590 and we're one of 20 people that get cut, so we wound up without 423 00:23:53,620 --> 00:23:56,560 a deal for a while, but we had a great live show, and we were 424 00:23:56,650 --> 00:23:59,710 playing, we had Halsey Company booking us, and you know, we 425 00:23:59,830 --> 00:24:03,000 were playing every fair and festival in the country, man. We 426 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:09,960 did all the farm maids and all these big, you know, 10 act, you 427 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:13,500 know, sweat fests that they have out there. We did all of those, 428 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:16,890 and we had a great live show. That's the thing that kept us 429 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:22,400 going, was our live show, and TNN people would see us, you 430 00:24:22,460 --> 00:24:25,370 know, on doing the Ralph Emery show. We used to beg them to be 431 00:24:25,580 --> 00:24:27,920 on there, but they finally figured out we loved to 432 00:24:27,950 --> 00:24:31,760 entertain, and they called us a lot to be on there, and you 433 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,210 know, we'd go to Independence, Kansas, and people would, you 434 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,300 know, they, they had seen us on TV a bunch of times, we had 435 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:43,000 videos and stuff, so that kind of kept us going until we wound 436 00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:49,270 up over at Capitol Records, and has wound up Blake Chancey 437 00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:51,820 produced that album, and I thought it was kind of cool, 438 00:24:51,850 --> 00:24:55,120 because Ron Chancey had produced our dad. Yeah, so it was the 439 00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:58,030 second generation Blake used to come out and run sound for us, 440 00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:01,350 and there he was producing us. The Dixie Chicks and all these 441 00:25:01,470 --> 00:25:06,990 other people, you know, and so during the time where we did our 442 00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:10,680 first album was the during the time that we were in the studio 443 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:14,520 and Dad found out he was not going to be with the Oak Ridge 444 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,050 Boys anymore, they had decided they were going to try to cut 445 00:25:19,140 --> 00:25:24,860 too big a limb off the tree at the time, and so there wasn't 446 00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:28,190 social media and stuff like that going on, but the phone was 447 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:30,680 ringing off the wall. So we said, "Hey, man, why don't you 448 00:25:30,740 --> 00:25:37,160 come to the studio with us? And he did. We got him on a couple 449 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:40,900 of songs. Whenever we went out, we were taking photos for we 450 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:44,650 were trying to keep him away from telephone and love on him 451 00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:47,530 and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, he come, our Alan Messer 452 00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:50,410 was taking all the photos, and he was taking, so when the 453 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,190 record company got some of these photos back, some of them had 454 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,280 dad in them, and they said, Hey, man, what's going on? You know, 455 00:25:57,370 --> 00:26:00,550 we signed this signs you and your brother and now your dad, 456 00:26:00,730 --> 00:26:06,420 that's not, you know, and if I had any inkling, a lot like I do 457 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:10,260 now, you know, when you're 26 years old, yeah, we'll do 458 00:26:10,350 --> 00:26:11,580 whatever you say, yes 459 00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:11,700 sir. 460 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:15,120 Now I'd say, well, that was then, and this is now, and we're 461 00:26:15,180 --> 00:26:17,970 gonna be like, the, you know, we're gonna cut, he's a golden 462 00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:18,120 too, 463 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:18,570 yeah, 464 00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:21,800 and we're go out, we would have probably, you know, done that if 465 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:27,740 I'd, but what wound up happening is he recorded for Polygram, we 466 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,210 recorded for a different label, Capital, and at one time CPS, 467 00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:39,530 and we had separate booking agencies and management, but we 468 00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:42,910 toured together, so what we did is, like, you know, we got to 469 00:26:42,970 --> 00:26:46,030 work twice as much that way. Whenever dad would get a 470 00:26:46,090 --> 00:26:48,850 booking, they'd, you know, our agents knew each other, and 471 00:26:48,850 --> 00:26:51,610 they'd say, "Well, hey, for I know the little scratch, you can 472 00:26:51,670 --> 00:26:55,450 get this up and come and ban on the, you know, Capitol Records. 473 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,330 They got a single out doing pretty good right now, and so, 474 00:26:58,510 --> 00:27:01,050 you know, we would get to open the show, and then he had come 475 00:27:01,230 --> 00:27:04,590 out, we'd take a step back, kind of like the band did with Bob 476 00:27:04,650 --> 00:27:09,570 Dylan, and that's that was sort of our model that we used, it 477 00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:12,810 was kind of a one two punch, yeah, so we did that for a long 478 00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:15,660 time, whenever we would get booked, we'd say, hey man, you 479 00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:17,820 know, for an extra little scratch, you can have this 480 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,200 legendary Oakridge Boy, you know, William Lee Golden come 481 00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:23,630 out with us too, so we toured together, 482 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:24,530 yeah, but 483 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,600 we recorded separately to go full circle back to what you 484 00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:32,780 were talking about, as during that pandemic that was the first 485 00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:35,780 time that we had ever recorded together, other than the, you 486 00:27:35,810 --> 00:27:40,190 know, him being a guest singer on a song, kind of a background 487 00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:43,150 vocalist on song, or whatever. So this was the first time we'd 488 00:27:43,210 --> 00:27:48,010 ever been in the studio and recorded, and we wound up doing 489 00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:49,090 34 songs. 490 00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:53,440 Oh yeah, and they were fun. I mean, they, they did a lot of 491 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:56,560 covers that were really good, like I loved your version of 492 00:27:56,710 --> 00:28:00,400 Take It Easy and the Eagles. I loved your version of Southern 493 00:28:00,550 --> 00:28:01,060 Accents. 494 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:01,570 I'm pretty 495 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:01,740 sure I 496 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,780 still, in fact, I made you sing that at a church. 497 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:10,050 You did well. It was that last verse about Mama praying. It 498 00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:11,880 kind of pulled it all 499 00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:18,660 off, Rusty. I mean, I usually don't like to hear people do 500 00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:23,570 covers of Bob Seger, but man, he nailed Hollywood nights. Oh, 501 00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:24,530 God, 502 00:28:24,860 --> 00:28:28,010 he sure did, man. And you know, it was a lot of cover stuff, 503 00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:31,730 because whenever we first got together and started doing it, 504 00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:35,450 it was gospel songs. Dad wanted us to do these gospel songs. 505 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:38,960 Some of them we didn't even know that it was songs of his 506 00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:44,530 childhood, and we learned all those and sang them, and then it 507 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,890 kind of turned into he wanted to do some old time country stuff 508 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,530 with, you know, some Chris Christofferson, and just some 509 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,810 old, old, old tunes, and yeah, stuff like that, we didn't 510 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,780 really, you know, and then it kind of wound up being it 511 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,630 started out as one thing and it sort of just kept evolving, we 512 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,030 thought, well, we got enough gospel songs for a gospel 513 00:29:09,150 --> 00:29:12,120 record, now this is old time country stuff, now let's do 514 00:29:12,270 --> 00:29:16,620 something a little more southern or rock type of stuff, so we 515 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:19,320 wound up doing three albums together there and a ton of 516 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:24,530 videos, and yeah, man, it was a lot of fun, and we're still, as 517 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:28,940 it went on, my kids came on, you know, they've all got records, 518 00:29:29,030 --> 00:29:29,120 and 519 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,860 oh my god, they're talented, 520 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:31,280 ain't they? 521 00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:35,120 Oh my, you are, you are very blessed, they really are, man, 522 00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:36,860 your daughter, my gosh, 523 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,170 yeah, she's great, man, 524 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:39,380 yeah, 525 00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:43,780 she's so proud of my kids, and it's like just another 526 00:29:43,870 --> 00:29:46,330 generation. I always tell people, man, they passed me a 527 00:29:46,390 --> 00:29:50,110 long time ago. I remember when Elijah was in, like, the sixth 528 00:29:50,170 --> 00:29:54,160 grade, man. He, Ronnie McCrory from the McCorrys, he called me 529 00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:56,770 on the road one time. He said, "I just want you to know, man, 530 00:29:56,860 --> 00:30:00,720 I'm I'm pretty jaded musically, but I just saw your. Son singing 531 00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:02,340 a school play, and cried like a 532 00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:02,790 baby. 533 00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:06,960 He said he has got it, man. 534 00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:07,680 He does, 535 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:10,680 and he's had it for a long time, and Elizabeth's the same way. 536 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Yeah, so they passed me a long time ago. 537 00:30:13,650 --> 00:30:16,410 Well, it just gives you hope that the family name is going to 538 00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:17,610 continue on in music. 539 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:20,480 I sure hope so, only if they want to do it, you know. And I 540 00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:27,710 got three kids, one of each, and they are all three are extremely 541 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,040 talented, very talented. Elijah plays a lot of instruments, 542 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,050 Elizabeth plays fiddle and guitar, and she comes out and 543 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,300 plays and sings with me. If she's going to be joining, we 544 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,670 just did four days together down in Florida, and then came up 545 00:30:42,730 --> 00:30:45,430 here and did the Opry House Monday night. She's going to be 546 00:30:45,670 --> 00:30:48,340 joining me. We're opening for Skaggs next week, and 547 00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:49,210 yeah, I saw that. 548 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,940 Yeah, so it made a lot of fun, man. She's comes with me. I 549 00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:53,740 thought, if I'm gonna be opening for him, I need a 550 00:30:57,010 --> 00:30:57,190 fiddle. 551 00:30:57,550 --> 00:31:00,990 And the great thing is, he's got all dudes up there? I got a 552 00:31:01,050 --> 00:31:02,370 country princess coming out, 553 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,480 dude. She is a pretty little girl, man. Well, I gotta tell 554 00:31:06,570 --> 00:31:10,620 you, too. I gotta tell the story. Here is that my wife, for 555 00:31:10,650 --> 00:31:17,640 her birthday, she said, I want Chris Golden and Marie, his 556 00:31:17,790 --> 00:31:21,650 wife, to come have dinner with us, and I said, you know, that's 557 00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:25,670 cool, and she told me that they were coming, and I really didn't 558 00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:28,400 quite believe her. I thought, yeah, I don't think that's gonna 559 00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:32,120 happen, but on the day of her birthday, I'm sitting there 560 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,890 watching an Elvis movie at home, and there's a knock at the door, 561 00:31:38,150 --> 00:31:38,960 son, a gun, there's 562 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:47,620 Chris Roust about, oh, it's one of my clambake, 563 00:31:51,070 --> 00:31:53,830 but we also found I couldn't believe my wife was giving you 564 00:31:53,950 --> 00:31:55,750 all this Elvis memorabilia. 565 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,710 I know it, 566 00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:57,850 man. We could have sold that. 567 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:04,500 Well, I don't. On 568 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,720 a music room, and, man, everybody loves Elvis. 569 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:14,040 Oh, you're not kidding. 570 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,220 Yeah, 571 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,570 I love Elvis. So, 572 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,260 man, that did you see the new one, the bass thing? 573 00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:21,290 I want to see that. I haven't seen it yet. It 574 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,030 was awesome. It was great. 575 00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:26,870 Well, see, I loved Chris, because when Glennon was giving 576 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:30,770 him all of this, Elvis, he was like a little kid. He was like, 577 00:32:31,130 --> 00:32:33,290 I begged her not to give. Well, you don't want to give 578 00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:33,650 this away. 579 00:32:33,890 --> 00:32:36,170 You don't want to give this away to me. She goes, "Oh, I do. You 580 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:36,290 know, 581 00:32:36,530 --> 00:32:36,980 she loves 582 00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:37,520 away. 583 00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:42,580 She loves Chris and Marie, and so albums, he's going, going, 584 00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:48,520 get this out to the car quick albums, 585 00:32:49,510 --> 00:32:49,630 cars 586 00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:50,830 get 587 00:32:50,890 --> 00:32:55,600 to see Elvis as a kid, man, Elvis came to the quartet 588 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,900 convention and the municipal auditorium in like early 70s, he 589 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,420 used to come there, and you know, watch the gospel groups, 590 00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:06,930 and I had heard that, you know, he had offered the Oaks that 591 00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:12,090 background gig at one time, but they had a lot of stuff going on 592 00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:16,200 themselves, but he would come, and they built this special 593 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,470 little thing for him to sit on stage, where it was almost like 594 00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:23,390 a booth that nobody knew who was behind the booth, where he could 595 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,130 almost sit on stage and watch them. He watched my brother play 596 00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:34,820 drums, and we used, you know, we knew we knew that that municipal 597 00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:37,460 auditorium and the board memorial building, we knew all 598 00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:41,320 the back out, you know, we were little backstage kids, so we, 599 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,080 you know, we grew up backstage, we could get around any of them 600 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:51,220 buildings and just ran amok the whole time. But I go out to the 601 00:33:51,340 --> 00:33:54,010 Oaks at the time, they had this I Love the Oaks stickers, and I 602 00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:57,340 was going plastering them on everything. I had a roll, I had 603 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,130 a roll of them, had a roll of these stickers, and I'm just 604 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880 going, putting them on all over, all over the hallway, and 605 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:06,600 everything. I heard the crowd just, and I went to go get a 606 00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:12,150 Hershey bar, and I was a little jubo. I had heard this, you 607 00:34:12,210 --> 00:34:15,330 know, I come running in there to see what was going, what was 608 00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:19,740 going on with chocolate all over my mouth, and they said Elvis 609 00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:22,430 just walked across the stage, it's like, oh man, I missed 610 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:23,449 it, 611 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,109 but he was there. We were in the same building, but I didn't get 612 00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:27,349 to see 613 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,420 that building, baby. 614 00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:32,509 Yeah, you know, some of my heroes during that time were 615 00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,989 like Glenn Campbell and Kenny Rogers, and I remember when the 616 00:34:35,989 --> 00:34:40,549 first edition came to came to the municipal auditorium. We 617 00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:43,359 were up in the balcony. It was sold out at the time. They were 618 00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:47,349 huge, man. My brother Rusty gets, he had the little fringe 619 00:34:47,499 --> 00:34:50,799 coat and the little, you know, Brian Jones striped bell bottom 620 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:58,509 pants, and he goes, they go to get popcorn. Rusty says, I'm 621 00:34:58,509 --> 00:35:01,049 gonna go back there and make candy and. Band, and everything, 622 00:35:01,139 --> 00:35:05,879 and so the guy that was with us that night, his friend came back 623 00:35:06,539 --> 00:35:08,849 to where we were sitting, and they said, "Where's Rusty? He 624 00:35:08,969 --> 00:35:12,509 said, "Well, he said he was gonna go meet the band, and so 625 00:35:13,379 --> 00:35:16,739 we went right backstage. He never came back to 626 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,100 the city, 627 00:35:18,269 --> 00:35:21,979 and that particular night they were given a car away. It was 628 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:24,619 like, I don't know if Bob, you know, Bob Friendly or somebody 629 00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:28,189 was sponsoring the concert, so they, they had a, you know, keep 630 00:35:28,249 --> 00:35:31,789 your ticket stub, and we're gonna give out a car halfway 631 00:35:31,969 --> 00:35:35,419 through the show. They get the, the big barrel that they spin 632 00:35:35,779 --> 00:35:39,079 with the, with the tickets and the names to draw the winning 633 00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:41,529 names. We're gonna bring out our little buddy Rusty to draw the 634 00:35:41,619 --> 00:35:47,049 weird ticket on stage with them, you know, he's like 12, 635 00:35:49,390 --> 00:35:50,200 that boy was meant 636 00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:56,140 around, he wasn't scared, he looked like he belonged with 637 00:35:56,350 --> 00:35:58,390 them, because he had the, you know, yeah, a little hippie 638 00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:00,040 outfit, it was awesome, 639 00:36:00,550 --> 00:36:04,170 yeah, now he now on his own, he didn't play Dubai a lot. 640 00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:11,430 He went over there, there was a some cousins of ours through 641 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:15,870 that, through marriage, they had a, they had a place over there, 642 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:20,220 they had a, it was a, they had American food, American drink, 643 00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:25,400 and American music going on at this place, and he would go over 644 00:36:25,460 --> 00:36:29,750 there and do these three month stints, and come back for a 645 00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:32,120 little while, and go back and do three months, and they had 646 00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:36,410 offered that to me at one time, but I had it paid insane money, 647 00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:41,500 and I had three kids, just like, man, I'm not gonna be gone three 648 00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:46,150 months any anywhere, yeah. You know, I want to come home, and, 649 00:36:47,110 --> 00:36:49,510 but he went over there, he did that for about four or five 650 00:36:49,630 --> 00:36:49,810 years. 651 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,350 He's quite 652 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,370 popular there, wasn't 653 00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:55,420 he? Was yeah, front page stories and all kind of stuff. 654 00:36:56,260 --> 00:36:56,710 Yeah, gosh, 655 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,140 yeah. So before it was over, it was just like the, you know, him 656 00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:06,720 coming out on the stage with Kenny, you know, you're talking 657 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,770 about Elvis. My hero was Glen Campbell, and I used to lay it 658 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,130 in front of that TV and watch that Glenn Campbell, good. 659 00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:19,950 Oh man, yeah. And you know, when the Mother's Brothers had their 660 00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:21,240 summer replacement show, 661 00:37:21,749 --> 00:37:21,799 yeah, 662 00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:25,820 it was the Summer Brothers Smothers show, and it was hosted 663 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,150 by Glenn Campbell, and I was like, you, I mean, he was my 664 00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:32,870 idol, and I got to work with him when I was at MCA, and got to be 665 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,750 around him, and I won't say know him, but you know, got to hang 666 00:37:35,870 --> 00:37:39,470 with him a little bit, and that was, that was so cool. Well, I 667 00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:43,690 mean, the most talented musician guy that I've ever been around, 668 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:48,520 a player's player, a singer, singer. He was a great host, 669 00:37:48,820 --> 00:37:52,990 yes, actor, funny guy. He was a man. I remember I got, you know, 670 00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:56,380 blessed to be able to be on shows with him too. Every time I 671 00:37:56,410 --> 00:37:59,470 was running, I'd say, man, I just want you to know you're the 672 00:37:59,590 --> 00:38:01,380 guy that got me hooked on hairspray, 673 00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:05,460 and we thought it was Marty Stewart. 674 00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:12,420 You got me a hooked on hairspray. Started out with a 675 00:38:12,510 --> 00:38:15,300 couple of squirts and worked my way up to a half a can a week. 676 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,840 Well, we brought up Jim Halsey a little while ago. My dad got 677 00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:24,560 involved with Jim Halsey, and they had a radio station in 678 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:31,100 Tulsa, KTOW, and when the Oaks came out, Jim, it was a 679 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,880 requirement for everybody at the station to go to these parties 680 00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:36,800 that they would have for the because they were trying to 681 00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:41,470 break the Oak Ridge Boys with country music, but one guy I got 682 00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:46,390 to hang out with a lot with my dad was Roy Clark, and I know 683 00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:50,500 that he worked a lot with the Oaks, but what a great talent. 684 00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:51,070 Oh, and 685 00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:54,310 what a great guy. My God, I love being around that guy. 686 00:38:54,430 --> 00:38:58,930 Roy was something, man, he was a force too. Now he, he took the 687 00:38:59,230 --> 00:39:04,170 Oaks to Russia before the Oaks ever had a country record, they 688 00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:07,860 were still a gospel group at the time, and they had an exchange 689 00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:11,460 program at Halsey, had kind of put together with the State 690 00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:15,330 Department, and they took an exchange program, they took this 691 00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:18,450 country music show over there, but they had to do it in front 692 00:39:18,570 --> 00:39:22,520 of the Russian consulate, or whatever, you know, whoever's in 693 00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:25,040 charge over there, they had to do their show for them before 694 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:30,350 they were allowed to perform it, and you know, they was a to 695 00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:35,720 Canaan land, I'm on my way, and they wouldn't let them say 696 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,720 Canaan, they wanted them to say Disney, and they was like, no, 697 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,010 this is a gospel song. 698 00:39:42,130 --> 00:39:42,190 Yeah, 699 00:39:42,759 --> 00:39:46,329 we can't say Disneyland, we got to say Canaan, because they 700 00:39:46,449 --> 00:39:48,549 said, well, you know, they didn't want them to use the word 701 00:39:48,699 --> 00:39:49,059 Canaan. 702 00:39:50,260 --> 00:39:52,960 Interesting. So, no religious reference of any kind. 703 00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:56,380 Well, all they really had at the time were gospel records, so 704 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,720 they were trying to have an exchange, so they just said, How 705 00:39:58,780 --> 00:40:01,830 about that fair land? Well, instead of Canaan, you know, 706 00:40:02,010 --> 00:40:03,990 land, maybe to that fair land, and 707 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:04,260 yeah, 708 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:07,980 so they made compromise on some of that stuff, but Roy took him 709 00:40:08,070 --> 00:40:08,430 over there. 710 00:40:08,910 --> 00:40:09,480 Yeah, he did. 711 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:09,660 Yeah, 712 00:40:09,930 --> 00:40:10,710 I remember that. 713 00:40:10,859 --> 00:40:13,319 Yeah, wow, Roy was a force. 714 00:40:13,530 --> 00:40:16,380 Well, and Jim Halsey was a force. They, the Oaks had a 715 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:19,410 great manager in that man, he was very cool. 716 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,190 He did, he saw him when they were gospel, and he said, "Man, 717 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,920 you guys are three minutes away from making it. You need a 718 00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:27,680 country record, and if you can bring that kind of energy that 719 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,320 you've got in gospel. But they were hungry at that time, 720 00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:34,580 because gospel would kind of, you know, shunned them a little 721 00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:36,620 bit. They were getting a little too wild. And 722 00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:41,380 well, I remember too when they decided to go country, that a 723 00:40:41,410 --> 00:40:44,650 lot of gospel groups were not kind to them, 724 00:40:45,759 --> 00:40:46,089 right? 725 00:40:46,179 --> 00:40:50,169 I remember, like, they did a gig somewhere, maybe I forget where 726 00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:54,999 it was, but some gospel group said something awful on stage. 727 00:40:55,299 --> 00:40:59,439 Well, during that time, Johnny Cash also had sort of took them 728 00:40:59,529 --> 00:41:02,639 under their wing, and they were getting to play out in Vegas, 729 00:41:03,389 --> 00:41:06,929 opening for Johnny Cash, because it was the Johnny Cash show, you 730 00:41:06,959 --> 00:41:10,139 know. We had the Carter family and the Tennessee three, Carl 731 00:41:10,319 --> 00:41:13,979 Perkins, and Johnny was the last one on stage, but it was like 732 00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:18,569 they put a.. it was the Johnny Cash show, and the Oaks at that 733 00:41:18,689 --> 00:41:22,339 time were strictly gospel, and all these people thought, well, 734 00:41:22,429 --> 00:41:25,309 they're playing in nightclubs, they're out there in Sin City, 735 00:41:25,549 --> 00:41:27,649 doing that. Well, what they didn't, those narrow-minded 736 00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:31,279 folks didn't know that they were singing "Jesus is coming soon" 737 00:41:31,429 --> 00:41:32,539 on the strip, you know. 738 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,810 Well, yeah, what would Jesus.. well, into.. did Jesus not hang 739 00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:36,320 out with the 740 00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:38,270 junkies, whores, and thieves? 741 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,690 Yeah, I mean, that's that's how they got you 742 00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:42,730 inverted, those who needed a physician, 743 00:41:43,090 --> 00:41:43,600 exactly. 744 00:41:50,530 --> 00:41:53,290 What was it like? When did you realize you were growing up in a 745 00:41:53,350 --> 00:41:56,980 family that was extraordinary? When did you have that 746 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,610 realization, 747 00:41:59,470 --> 00:42:05,490 man? And that part of the country that we're from, my 748 00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:09,000 granddaddy was one of 13 brothers and sisters, and they 749 00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:13,170 are the my granddaddy was an identical triplet, it was 750 00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:18,540 Matthew, Mark, and Luke, they were Luke was the run of the 751 00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:24,950 three, and I kind of knew it from them, from the, you know, 752 00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:30,710 from my southern, my, my farm family roots are extraordinary. 753 00:42:31,610 --> 00:42:34,430 People say, you know, like, Dad's a hard act to live up to, 754 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:37,340 or whatever. His daddy was a heart, was a man's man, and he 755 00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:45,190 was a really hard act to live up to, not just, you know, he had 756 00:42:45,310 --> 00:42:49,300 so many friends in that community because he would 757 00:42:49,390 --> 00:42:52,810 always put himself last and then kind of first, and so he was 758 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,880 actually the one that was the hard one to live up to, but I've 759 00:42:58,180 --> 00:43:03,780 always been proud of my heritage and my roots, and far as you 760 00:43:03,810 --> 00:43:06,540 know, the gospel thing, I might have been when I was in 761 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,970 elementary school, when I finally kind of figured out, 762 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:11,190 hey, man, this is kind of cool, because you're around other 763 00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:14,280 kids, it was just a natural thing to mess with. My dad did 764 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,320 just a job, it was a, it was a job, you know, and what's really 765 00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,000 wild is back then, the Oaks, they couldn't afford second cars 766 00:43:23,330 --> 00:43:27,020 during that time, so that bus would go house to house and pick 767 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,590 them up like a school bus, that's nobody, they didn't have 768 00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:34,040 an office to, you know, meet at and leave your cars at, and for 769 00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:37,070 the bus lot, you know, it's like they would just, they took turns 770 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,230 driving it, and they all set their song sound system up, and 771 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,220 my dad was a sound guy. He ran it from the side of the stage, 772 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,060 and there was one man that told me, about a year ago, I was down 773 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,300 in Florida, and he showed me this old thing that he brought 774 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,740 that my dad had signed, and put our home phone number on it, and 775 00:43:56,770 --> 00:44:00,100 he said the day that I saw them, that was their third show that 776 00:44:00,250 --> 00:44:06,870 that day they had played a high school that morning, like an 777 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:10,470 assembly, trying to get them to bring their parents back for 778 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,920 that night, and then they played a fair that afternoon, and then 779 00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:15,870 went back to that same high school to 780 00:44:15,929 --> 00:44:16,799 play the show. Wow, are 781 00:44:17,279 --> 00:44:19,349 they breaking down and setting up equipment and everything? 782 00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:19,530 Yeah. 783 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,420 Oh my gosh, 784 00:44:21,410 --> 00:44:24,020 so anyway, you know, they worked hard, but far as that deal, I 785 00:44:24,110 --> 00:44:26,660 remember when I was in elementary school, the bus, the 786 00:44:26,660 --> 00:44:31,190 bus came to pick me up one time, and you know, Dad and Dwayne get 787 00:44:31,340 --> 00:44:33,440 out, and they coming down the hallways, and none of them 788 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:41,410 teachers is like, I thought, hey, man, you know they're 789 00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:44,740 pretty special, and I've made me feel so big, because you know, 790 00:44:45,070 --> 00:44:47,830 then there are all these kids on the playground, I get to wave at 791 00:44:47,860 --> 00:44:51,280 them while I'm getting on the bus, I'm going with these cool 792 00:44:51,370 --> 00:44:55,960 guys that look like gangsters, they look like good fellows back 793 00:44:56,530 --> 00:45:01,200 then, they always had the suits and the sunglasses. And the, you 794 00:45:01,230 --> 00:45:04,770 know, the hair and all that kind of stuff, yeah, they look like 795 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,950 good fellas, but yeah, man, it was probably when I was in 796 00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:10,920 elementary school, I knew that, you know, the oaks were, and 797 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,270 they were just gospel at that time, 798 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,050 right, right, right, 799 00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:16,439 and by the time I got to high school, they started having some 800 00:45:16,529 --> 00:45:19,949 country success, and, man, but it was always something, it was 801 00:45:20,009 --> 00:45:23,059 just the family business, as far as what that's what my dad did, 802 00:45:23,059 --> 00:45:23,119 you 803 00:45:23,299 --> 00:45:23,359 know, 804 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:24,350 and 805 00:45:24,829 --> 00:45:25,489 pretty cool job. I 806 00:45:27,139 --> 00:45:30,019 always tell people I was born the son of a paper mill worker. 807 00:45:30,109 --> 00:45:35,329 My dad worked at the paper mill, and for about six years, and one 808 00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:38,929 man, my brothers were little, and he wanted had dreams of 809 00:45:39,649 --> 00:45:42,999 singing, and my mom used to encourage him, and they'd go 810 00:45:43,209 --> 00:45:45,489 around seeing the different groups and stuff, and he would 811 00:45:45,549 --> 00:45:49,689 get had a little trio. My dad built his own PA, he, you know, 812 00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:52,509 put the wood together and put the speakers in it, and the 813 00:45:52,629 --> 00:45:55,599 grill cloth, and all that kind of thing, man. He built his own 814 00:45:56,349 --> 00:45:59,559 PA, and he really wanted to do that. You don't think about 815 00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:03,119 stuff like that, but my dad was, you know, everybody knows him as 816 00:46:03,179 --> 00:46:06,809 the mountain man. Oh, during that time, he, he was working at 817 00:46:06,839 --> 00:46:10,289 a paper mill and dreaming about singing, and they, you know, he 818 00:46:10,349 --> 00:46:14,669 had a microphone, and they would have a little trio, and they 819 00:46:14,729 --> 00:46:17,399 used to open shows for the Oak Ridge Boys when they'd be in 820 00:46:17,459 --> 00:46:20,819 that Pensacola, Florida, the Panhandle area, South Alabama, 821 00:46:20,819 --> 00:46:23,119 and stuff. They might get to be on the same show with them. 822 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,489 That's how he kind of made friends with some of them, and 823 00:46:25,579 --> 00:46:28,129 said, "Hey, man, if y'all ever get an opening, I'd love a shot 824 00:46:28,279 --> 00:46:34,729 at it. And they said, "Well, okay. And it wasn't - he 825 00:46:34,879 --> 00:46:36,949 actually was telling them, "I don't think the guy that you got 826 00:46:37,429 --> 00:46:42,889 in your group right now fits your image and on his job, he 827 00:46:42,889 --> 00:46:46,239 because you know they had a really cool guy named Gary 828 00:46:46,329 --> 00:46:50,979 McSpadden, and Dad loved Gary, and he thought he was cool, and 829 00:46:52,299 --> 00:46:56,049 because he looked like Elvis, and yeah, he was a great singer 830 00:46:56,199 --> 00:46:59,919 too. But anyway, I know I'm just talking in 831 00:47:00,010 --> 00:47:02,430 circles. Hey, man, you're not talking in a circle. We want to 832 00:47:02,460 --> 00:47:08,430 hear these stories before they circle the drain. Hey, full 833 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,980 circle, baby. And with gospel music, did you, did you ever 834 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,440 experience the all-night gospel sing-a-thons? 835 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:16,980 Yeah, 836 00:47:17,279 --> 00:47:19,709 because a lot of people don't, people, when they hear this, 837 00:47:19,949 --> 00:47:21,559 they don't, they don't think it was an all night. 838 00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:21,889 Yeah, 839 00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:23,810 I'm talking, it was all night. 840 00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:26,420 Well, listen, man, I was.. it was, you know, that you know 841 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,640 what I remember about it more than anything, it was first time 842 00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:35,090 I got to have coffee. Let's get these little kids jacked up on 843 00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:39,440 some coffee, like, how much sugar and cream can I put in 844 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,790 here? No, this tastes like chocolate milk. I want another 845 00:47:43,390 --> 00:47:44,230 one more. 846 00:47:44,619 --> 00:47:48,009 Well, the funniest thing ever experienced one of these.. I 847 00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:51,699 think it was in Hot Springs, Arkansas, but I was playing one 848 00:47:51,730 --> 00:47:51,850 of the 849 00:47:51,850 --> 00:47:53,470 Passion Fest. Was it the Passion? 850 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,130 It may have 851 00:47:54,130 --> 00:47:54,640 been Passion Play, 852 00:47:55,210 --> 00:47:58,090 and I don't.. I don't know if it was that or not, but it was in 853 00:47:58,150 --> 00:48:00,580 Hot Springs, and apparently 854 00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:02,010 that's Eureka Springs, I'm sorry. 855 00:48:02,070 --> 00:48:06,720 Yeah, but what was funny about this was apparently this woman 856 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,570 had brought her husband out, and he was one of these that thought 857 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,070 it wasn't all night, and they rarely take breaks, but they do 858 00:48:14,190 --> 00:48:17,580 take some breaks, and I was outside because I was already 859 00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:21,440 done, and I was outside talking to, I think it was some of the 860 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:27,110 planesmen, and this door just flies open, and it's this 861 00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:31,010 couple, and she looks just like she's in heaven, having the 862 00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:38,060 greatest time. He comes out and goes, 'Ah, shit, you didn't tell 863 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:44,320 me it's gonna be this long. No. those things were fun. Yeah, 864 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:44,740 they used 865 00:48:44,739 --> 00:48:46,059 to call them sundown to sun up. 866 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:46,689 They have a 867 00:48:46,749 --> 00:48:47,769 sundown to sun up. 868 00:48:48,279 --> 00:48:48,699 Oh, they would, 869 00:48:49,870 --> 00:48:53,020 you know, a lot of the times when they would get that many 870 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,070 groups together. I think the reason that they.. I know the 871 00:48:57,220 --> 00:48:59,620 reason that they did the sun down to sun up thing, because it 872 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,450 was, you know, and they didn't have as many air-conditioned 873 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,060 buildings back then, so they were waiting for the sun to go 874 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:06,330 down, 875 00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:07,350 exactly. 876 00:49:07,890 --> 00:49:11,100 Yeah, they done under the football lights or the baseball 877 00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:11,700 lights. Yeah, 878 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,030 but I had more fun. I mean, gospel groups were fun. I really 879 00:49:15,150 --> 00:49:18,420 enjoyed watching them perform, and then hanging out with them. 880 00:49:19,170 --> 00:49:19,380 When 881 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,260 I was in, I was like, I think I was about two weeks before I 882 00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:27,440 turned 15. I went and auditioned for this little gospel group. My 883 00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:31,610 mama was selling houses at the time. This guy, he was singing 884 00:49:31,610 --> 00:49:35,240 with the gospel group. I was, my son plays piano, and so I played 885 00:49:35,330 --> 00:49:37,880 piano, and he sang a song. He said, 'Hey, man, we're... They 886 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,720 called a month later and said, 'We're looking for a piano 887 00:49:40,810 --> 00:49:44,200 player, you want to come try. It's like, man, I was only 14 at 888 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:49,390 the time. I wound up getting the gig, and I, you know, I turned 889 00:49:49,450 --> 00:49:53,320 15, and so between 15 and almost, I was only about a year, 890 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,200 I guess, about one season, but I went out with this little gospel 891 00:49:56,230 --> 00:50:00,720 crew from Madison, and my dad kind of warned. Me, a little bit 892 00:50:00,780 --> 00:50:01,890 about it, 893 00:50:02,310 --> 00:50:02,400 then 894 00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:07,710 you know, I could make more money on the weekend than you 895 00:50:07,740 --> 00:50:10,080 know, just going out for a couple of days, and my friends 896 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,000 could work on all through the week. 897 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,420 Oh, yeah, 898 00:50:13,290 --> 00:50:16,230 so I did that Southern Gospel circuit for a little while, 899 00:50:16,590 --> 00:50:20,730 yeah, and then I have come full circle on that, and I circle in 900 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:27,170 the drain back, back to some of it. Maybe I ought to move to 901 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,880 Australia and go the other way. 902 00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:34,940 Circle 903 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,630 back the other way. 904 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,960 What was there any like a prodigal son moment musically, 905 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,330 where you kind of veered off, because when you grew up in the 906 00:50:43,420 --> 00:50:46,690 heyday of the bands, and you know, the 80s, and stuff like 907 00:50:46,750 --> 00:50:49,510 that, especially I would, in your teenage years, was there 908 00:50:49,540 --> 00:50:52,510 anything that influenced you, like that would surprise 909 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,480 somebody, you know, any hair, hair bands, or anything like 910 00:50:55,570 --> 00:50:55,750 that, 911 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,790 we were definitely a hair act 912 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,060 of 913 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,940 Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, that kind of thing, and 914 00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:06,330 say, man, we like that kind of fashion, but you know, I 915 00:51:06,450 --> 00:51:09,060 remember whenever they, the label came to us, said, you 916 00:51:09,090 --> 00:51:11,970 know, you don't look like you sound, and they wanted us to 917 00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:15,930 kind of clean up a little bit, and during that time, we knew 918 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,560 that we were, our gig was up with Capitol Records at the 919 00:51:19,710 --> 00:51:24,080 time, but we wanted them to know that we were a country act, and 920 00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:28,370 so I had the idea. We had a song called Little Piece of Land at 921 00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:32,270 the time. We were sort of a video act, and it was one that I 922 00:51:32,540 --> 00:51:35,660 loved video back then, but I took a home camera and did 923 00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:40,690 pre-production for this thing down around our hometown, and 924 00:51:40,810 --> 00:51:44,470 then we went with, then we took a skeleton crew down there with 925 00:51:44,650 --> 00:51:48,010 us and filmed, tried to recreate what I'd done with a home movie 926 00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:53,050 camera with film, and you know, videos just cost a lot more 927 00:51:53,140 --> 00:51:56,050 because of film and developing and this and that, so we knew we 928 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,570 were only gonna get one or two, we didn't want to do a lot of 929 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,680 editing, so we were planning these, I had all the shots kind 930 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,640 of planned out, but it revolved around our home movies, so we 931 00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:09,450 would go to the exact same spot where that home movie was filmed 932 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,130 and try to line the camera up, so it faded back in and out of 933 00:52:14,190 --> 00:52:18,840 time, and you know all our home movies, when we were little, 934 00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:24,680 there's like chickens running around our legs, you know, you 935 00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:30,200 know, cattle and grandma chopping wood and working in the 936 00:52:30,260 --> 00:52:34,190 fields, and yeah, yes, sir. Every, every, every, every, 937 00:52:34,310 --> 00:52:37,520 every piece of video we have, my grandmother, she's never sitting 938 00:52:37,610 --> 00:52:40,750 still, she's gathering eggs, she's hanging clothes on the 939 00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:45,490 line, she's chopping wood, she's feeding animals. She never got 940 00:52:45,490 --> 00:52:49,390 to shelling peas, she's never got to do anything other than 941 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,160 work, you know. It didn't seem like 942 00:52:51,580 --> 00:52:53,410 mine was smoking cigarettes and drinking martinis. 943 00:53:01,690 --> 00:53:03,960 Anyway, man, it was like we wanted them to know that we were 944 00:53:04,170 --> 00:53:09,540 country at the time, and far as any kind of big moment during, I 945 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,360 don't know, man, we there's been a lot of great ones. 946 00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:16,200 What's one that really sticks out in your mind, that, like, 947 00:53:16,290 --> 00:53:21,200 man, that was fun, like, like a file cabinet moment, and you 948 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,000 just kind of follow it away, you know. You're always gonna 949 00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:23,570 remember 950 00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:29,240 it. He has tough questions, 951 00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:34,760 hopefully they're good questions. 952 00:53:34,940 --> 00:53:39,920 They are what I felt like, what was the.. what was the original? 953 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,070 Just, 954 00:53:40,130 --> 00:53:42,790 just like you know, a standout moment that you're like, "Oh my 955 00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:45,700 gosh, this is.. I remember this for the rest of my life. You 956 00:53:45,730 --> 00:53:45,790 know, 957 00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:48,250 I got to play for every president one night. 958 00:53:48,849 --> 00:53:48,909 Wow, 959 00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:53,560 pretty, pretty incredible thing. I was playing drums with 960 00:53:53,710 --> 00:53:57,400 Alabama, and we did a thing down in Texas. We had played the 961 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,310 inauguration for our current president, the first time 962 00:54:02,490 --> 00:54:07,920 around, we actually played the, I think it was called the 963 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,830 Chairman's Ball. It was the night before the inauguration, 964 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,480 actually, Steve Wynn and all these busy all kind of wild 965 00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:19,230 people there. I've been so blessed to be around different 966 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:24,650 things. It's, you know, really have been blessed to be around 967 00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:29,930 certain circles, and you know the thing is, is as a musician, 968 00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:34,940 those kind of gigs, like with Restless and Alabama, and this 969 00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:38,450 and that, I did get to play with the Oak Ridge Boys for 17 years, 970 00:54:39,140 --> 00:54:41,680 but those other groups don't hire you because of who your dad 971 00:54:41,830 --> 00:54:44,890 is. You gotta be able to play to be able to sing, play, and sing 972 00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:49,090 with them. So I was proud of that, being able to do that. But 973 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,320 we did a thing down out in Texas called One America Appeal, and 974 00:54:53,350 --> 00:54:58,090 there I was, man. I had this little snare drum that my 975 00:54:58,180 --> 00:55:03,150 brother found on the side of the road. They were kids. My mama 976 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:06,870 was driving. My brother says, "I just saw a suitcase on the side 977 00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:10,140 of the road. We turn around and go get it. It was between 978 00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:13,890 Hendersonville and White House at the time, I remember. And 979 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,310 Mama said, "This has got to be somebody's room. So she took out 980 00:55:17,370 --> 00:55:21,140 an ad in the paper, "Lost and Found, and we put it in there 981 00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:25,730 for three months, so this drum just described it, what kind it 982 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,090 was, what color it was, where it was found, what was in the case, 983 00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:36,080 and that was our first real drum that went with the little Jap, 984 00:55:36,890 --> 00:55:42,200 sorry, the off brand kit, 985 00:55:42,830 --> 00:55:45,490 yeah. Sorry, what the cheap 986 00:55:47,469 --> 00:55:51,399 it was a Lud week, and we had this little drum, and man, I had 987 00:55:51,819 --> 00:55:54,729 put a set of drums together for my nephew at the time, and I 988 00:55:54,849 --> 00:55:57,489 gave it when I gave him that drum to put together with these 989 00:55:57,609 --> 00:56:01,529 other drums, it still had the same head on it that we had when 990 00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:04,409 we were kids, because we had drawn little pictures on it and 991 00:56:04,499 --> 00:56:11,669 written, you know, put an STP sticker on the side. So I told 992 00:56:11,669 --> 00:56:14,069 him, I said, 'Hey, man, you still got that drum kit? when he 993 00:56:14,099 --> 00:56:17,009 got a little older, and he said, 'No, I gave it to my cousin on 994 00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:20,479 my mama's side. I said, 'Well, man, oh, it's fine and dandy, 995 00:56:20,569 --> 00:56:23,209 but if you're not playing them, I'd like to get that little red 996 00:56:23,299 --> 00:56:26,449 drum back, because it's sentimental to me. That was my 997 00:56:26,509 --> 00:56:30,739 first reel when I got, I put a new head on it, put new wires on 998 00:56:30,829 --> 00:56:34,549 it, tweaked it out, and I played it, and that's the drum I took 999 00:56:34,609 --> 00:56:36,739 to play on that date with the Presidents. 1000 00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:39,320 A drum like that, you'd probably have to get the bearing edges 1001 00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:40,480 redone at some point, 1002 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,540 well, I never did, because it sounded so good. Oh, that's 1003 00:56:43,630 --> 00:56:46,240 just.. I call it my honey boy, and I've played it on, I've 1004 00:56:46,330 --> 00:56:50,560 played it on so many sessions, it's just got a great warm sound 1005 00:56:50,620 --> 00:56:54,220 to it. And I wound up was kind of a special moment to me to 1006 00:56:54,310 --> 00:56:56,560 look down at that little drum and know that's the one I've 1007 00:56:56,590 --> 00:56:58,660 been playing since I was five years old. 1008 00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:59,919 What it was, 1009 00:57:00,490 --> 00:57:01,170 it was a Ludwig, 1010 00:57:01,380 --> 00:57:03,240 well, or what kind of wood? Maple, 1011 00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:06,210 I don't know, man. It's just it was just a red sparkle 1012 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,540 wood. It 1013 00:57:11,459 --> 00:57:15,839 was a 1964 I do know that it was one of them, red sparkle woods. 1014 00:57:19,319 --> 00:57:23,179 Yeah, but man, I got to play that for them, and that night I 1015 00:57:23,269 --> 00:57:28,609 got to meet, you know, it was Clinton, Carter, Obama, both 1016 00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:30,079 Bushes, and 1017 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:30,740 George 1018 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,130 W. 1019 00:57:31,550 --> 00:57:35,120 We were all there together, strategic. Got to talk to Lady 1020 00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:38,420 Gaga, stop and talk to me that night. Oh, wow, it's pretty 1021 00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:45,520 cool. It was several of us there, and it was I'd also 1022 00:57:45,610 --> 00:57:48,910 gotten to play the White House, and been around the bushes 1023 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,300 before, and that was one of them times I was in a dressing room 1024 00:57:52,330 --> 00:57:55,540 in Galveston one night, and the Oaks were like 20 minutes late, 1025 00:57:55,630 --> 00:57:58,810 and I walked, I'm in the dressing room by myself, and the 1026 00:57:59,110 --> 00:58:03,060 bushes walked in, and I entertained him for like 15 1027 00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:06,930 minutes by myself, which was wild. I had so many questions I 1028 00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:10,740 wanted to ask about different things, but I didn't. Hopefully, 1029 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,730 you were.. I knew he was head of the CIA. Hey, man, what about 1030 00:58:16,229 --> 00:58:17,549 did you kill Kennedy? 1031 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:19,860 He knows who 1032 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,770 did. Well, that had to be pretty trippy, because George Bush, 1033 00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:28,130 George H.W. Bush, was a huge fan of the Oaks. I know 1034 00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:29,450 he was, and then 1035 00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:30,710 the, the, 1036 00:58:30,859 --> 00:58:33,409 his son, man, I had gotten to play the White House during 1037 00:58:33,469 --> 00:58:37,279 that, during that era too, and that night I knew that the 1038 00:58:37,429 --> 00:58:39,769 presidents were gonna be there. I was wearing the cuff links 1039 00:58:39,859 --> 00:58:43,989 that he had given us, you know, he'd give my got a pair of that 1040 00:58:44,409 --> 00:58:47,019 with a presidential seal on it. That's what I wore that night 1041 00:58:49,449 --> 00:58:52,809 anyway. Pretty, pretty surreal moment for me. That was a, that 1042 00:58:52,869 --> 00:58:57,129 was a big moment. Yeah, mainly because I'd heard later that 1043 00:58:57,189 --> 00:59:00,069 they don't, you know, the all of them don't get together in this 1044 00:59:00,969 --> 00:59:04,409 very room, unless another one is about passed away, is when they 1045 00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,169 all get together. So it was a pretty rare deal for them to all 1046 00:59:07,259 --> 00:59:09,959 get together for something like that. 1047 00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:12,330 Did they all mingle with each other and all seem to get along? 1048 00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:15,570 Oh no, 1049 00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:19,140 like they 1050 00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:23,210 were still on two teams, man. Oh, really? Yeah, that That's 1051 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,850 real, because you always imagine you always hear, like, behind, 1052 00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:28,730 you know, when the cameras are off, it's like professional 1053 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,840 wrestling. They're all like, you know, well, yeah, I can see that 1054 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,230 to some degree. They were in the same room, it was not very many 1055 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,080 of them in there, but I've just remembered that, you know, 1056 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,590 Carter and Obama were standing there together, and then the 1057 00:59:41,590 --> 00:59:44,050 Bushes were together, and then Clinton was just.. he was 1058 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:44,560 everywhere. 1059 00:59:44,620 --> 00:59:45,460 He was looking for interns. 1060 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,550 What, but you know, George H.W. Bush, Clinton used to hang out 1061 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,320 with him quite a bit. Kenny Buckbird, yeah. He, in fact, he 1062 00:59:56,410 --> 00:59:59,950 called himself I'm the black sheep of the family guy. 1063 01:00:00,750 --> 01:00:03,270 Different problem child, I like going to islands. 1064 01:00:05,429 --> 01:00:07,829 What's wild is, you know, those got to go up there a bunch to 1065 01:00:07,889 --> 01:00:11,669 Kenny Punk Port, and Dad was told me that talk about 1066 01:00:11,759 --> 01:00:15,779 something, so you know one of his moments would have to be 1067 01:00:17,099 --> 01:00:19,709 sitting there in a sauna and a nothing but a toggle with 1068 01:00:21,539 --> 01:00:29,899 President this 1069 01:00:30,860 --> 01:00:31,430 water's cold, 1070 01:00:34,610 --> 01:00:35,420 it's a little nipple, 1071 01:00:38,450 --> 01:00:40,070 like sausage 1072 01:00:41,810 --> 01:00:42,490 gladiator movies, 1073 01:00:46,060 --> 01:00:47,110 you watch gladiator movies. 1074 01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:53,260 When you played the White House, did the Secret Service go over 1075 01:00:53,410 --> 01:00:56,050 your kit, and you know, check it out? 1076 01:00:56,349 --> 01:00:59,979 No, sir. But the one thing about that, that I remember, I 1077 01:01:00,099 --> 01:01:05,309 remember them, you know. Honestly, I'm gonna let you on a 1078 01:01:05,309 --> 01:01:13,019 little secret. I'm a spoiled. I never set my stuff up. I wasn't 1079 01:01:13,049 --> 01:01:18,089 there when they went through everything, but I remember that 1080 01:01:18,179 --> 01:01:20,899 day they said, now listen, this, you know, whenever you meet the 1081 01:01:21,019 --> 01:01:23,629 queen, you know you don't reach out, you know you don't touch 1082 01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:27,109 the queen, right? You don't, you just kind of bow to the queen or 1083 01:01:27,169 --> 01:01:29,629 the king or whoever, the princess, whatever. There's a, 1084 01:01:29,629 --> 01:01:32,989 the president don't shake his hand unless he puts this out to 1085 01:01:33,169 --> 01:01:35,389 you, you know, you don't shake their hand. 1086 01:01:35,780 --> 01:01:35,840 Yeah, 1087 01:01:36,110 --> 01:01:40,990 you just, you know, so during the show, man, he walks up on 1088 01:01:41,110 --> 01:01:46,030 stage, he's looking around. I know we're on a podcast. I don't 1089 01:01:46,030 --> 01:01:48,160 know if these cameras work, but soon as he went, soon as he 1090 01:01:48,250 --> 01:01:56,410 looked at me, and he kind of nodded like that, my arm just 1091 01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:58,600 went. 1092 01:02:01,060 --> 01:02:01,800 I couldn't have 1093 01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:05,490 it. Did he respond? 1094 01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:07,020 Oh, yeah. Oh, good. Yeah, 1095 01:02:07,530 --> 01:02:08,160 didn't leave you hanging. 1096 01:02:08,429 --> 01:02:08,789 No, sir. 1097 01:02:09,209 --> 01:02:11,639 Gosh, there it happened to you where you go to shake somebody's 1098 01:02:11,789 --> 01:02:14,039 hand and they don't see you, and you're sitting, you're like, 1099 01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:16,499 like Don 1100 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:16,980 Henley. 1101 01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:17,730 Yeah, 1102 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:18,480 there you go. 1103 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,970 I'll see myself out, or 1104 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,980 Joe Biden shaking hands with nobody. 1105 01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:32,389 Mitch McConnell moments, total freeze. 1106 01:02:34,310 --> 01:02:37,010 What kind of.. what's your kid configuration? What do you like? 1107 01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:37,820 Two up, two down, 1108 01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:38,300 drums. 1109 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,830 Yeah, I'm a drummer. I'm a nerd that way. Okay, man, 1110 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,680 I got a hybrid kit. I got a hybrid kit. I got an old, it 1111 01:02:47,890 --> 01:02:51,100 would be considered Master Series now, but it was, it was a 1112 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,090 Pearl Custom Shop at the time. I wanted 10 by 1012, by 1214, 1113 01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:01,440 1416, 2222 So my kick is pretty 1114 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:02,940 22 is 1115 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:04,620 a pretty deep kick, 1116 01:03:05,820 --> 01:03:07,350 that's Alex Van Halen size kick, 1117 01:03:07,410 --> 01:03:08,880 that's my shells, right? 1118 01:03:09,060 --> 01:03:09,990 Oh my gosh, 22 1119 01:03:10,739 --> 01:03:16,379 shells, I got DW hardware, Lud Wiggins, Rogers snare drums, I 1120 01:03:16,469 --> 01:03:21,709 got a Sabian ride, I got mine, all crashes, I got Zildjian 1121 01:03:21,979 --> 01:03:26,629 hats, I got a Yamaha stool, and I classed just total hybrid 1122 01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:27,169 kids. So, 1123 01:03:27,230 --> 01:03:29,780 basically, you're advertising to everybody, especially the symbol 1124 01:03:29,810 --> 01:03:33,620 manufacturers. I am for sale, I mean, an endorsement. 1125 01:03:33,769 --> 01:03:36,619 I was not endorsed by anybody. I always went with what sounded 1126 01:03:36,649 --> 01:03:39,619 best, as far as, like, the, you know, Zildjian symbols. I love 1127 01:03:39,739 --> 01:03:45,189 Zildjian, man. And, but I would, I love that Sabian ride. It just 1128 01:03:45,219 --> 01:03:48,339 sounded great to me, and I'd have to hear, you know, people. 1129 01:03:49,389 --> 01:03:51,459 It's that sound in my head that I was chasing, 1130 01:03:51,819 --> 01:03:51,879 yeah, 1131 01:03:52,450 --> 01:03:53,770 from my childhood, mainly. 1132 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:54,820 Yeah, which 1133 01:03:54,940 --> 01:04:00,270 were that, but I'm not beholden to any company for, for that, 1134 01:04:00,510 --> 01:04:05,070 you know, I just went with what sounded best to me at the time. 1135 01:04:05,610 --> 01:04:09,000 Maybe you get endorsements from all of them. The symbols are the 1136 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,310 ones that you got to watch, man. Those are the.. I mean, he 1137 01:04:11,370 --> 01:04:15,150 couldn't freaking 1000s of the symbols outweigh them, price the 1138 01:04:15,180 --> 01:04:17,250 drums sometimes, most of the time. 1139 01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:20,130 Well, that's kind of why I went with mine, all for a little 1140 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,700 while, because I was going through them, man. I was, go, 1141 01:04:22,820 --> 01:04:26,480 you know, I remember the old, in the old days. Maybe I were just 1142 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,500 younger, but it didn't seem like I would go through symbols as 1143 01:04:30,620 --> 01:04:34,010 much back then. I would have the same symbol for all these, you 1144 01:04:34,010 --> 01:04:37,880 know, till I.. we were opening for Louisiana LaRue, and I guess 1145 01:04:37,970 --> 01:04:46,480 that guy's got it now. I left it on stage, you know, but anyhow, 1146 01:04:47,140 --> 01:04:50,740 I was going through them with the Oaks. I was going one or two 1147 01:04:51,070 --> 01:04:53,200 crashes a year, and it just seemed like it was too much, 1148 01:04:53,350 --> 01:04:55,660 man. And then I started trying these models. They had a two 1149 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,020 year warranty on it, like if it, you know, messes up in two 1150 01:04:59,170 --> 01:05:02,520 years, bring it back. Back, so I thought, well, that's, you know, 1151 01:05:02,790 --> 01:05:06,600 at this rate I would have, you know, I would be better ahead if 1152 01:05:06,660 --> 01:05:10,560 I tried those miles out, and I wound up loving them, and it's 1153 01:05:10,650 --> 01:05:15,540 been way over two years, and never, never, nothing ever went 1154 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,390 wrong with them, but that's not the, I don't know if it's a 1155 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,500 different kind of metal they started using than what they did 1156 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,290 on the Vantage stuff, I don't know if they started putting, 1157 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,330 you know, yeah, making them watering them down a little bit, 1158 01:05:29,390 --> 01:05:31,220 the metal, so I don't know, 1159 01:05:31,610 --> 01:05:34,520 I mean, to offer an awardee on a symbol is just ludicrous, but I 1160 01:05:34,550 --> 01:05:37,670 mean it goes just as to show you that they, the profit margins 1161 01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:39,170 and those things must be massive, 1162 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:39,740 yeah, 1163 01:05:39,980 --> 01:05:42,160 but how much does it really cost to make one of them? I mean, 1164 01:05:42,220 --> 01:05:46,240 it's probably a lot of, well, that's where that's my stupid 1165 01:05:46,330 --> 01:05:48,160 geeky business mind that goes there, but you know, 1166 01:05:48,490 --> 01:05:51,760 some of them are hand hammered, yeah, some of them are machine, 1167 01:05:52,450 --> 01:05:52,510 yeah. 1168 01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:57,009 So, if anybody ever gets it, now, are you going to do any 1169 01:05:57,099 --> 01:05:59,919 more shows? Because you do these great shows in Gallatin at the 1170 01:06:00,939 --> 01:06:04,739 Gallatin Theater. I love those shows. Are you? I 1171 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,460 sure hope so. The last one was the, I think, the best one we've 1172 01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:15,210 ever done. The last one, and I sure hope to. That started out 1173 01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:17,400 as an album release party. 1174 01:06:18,030 --> 01:06:18,090 Yeah, 1175 01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:21,229 had a new album out, and I wanted to do an album cover, I 1176 01:06:21,259 --> 01:06:24,349 was looking for a small theater to do with this album cover in, 1177 01:06:25,219 --> 01:06:28,519 and it was long and narrow, and I had the little colored scone 1178 01:06:28,669 --> 01:06:32,749 lights going up. Palace Theatre's the oldest movie house 1179 01:06:32,869 --> 01:06:37,129 in the state of Tennessee. It is still operating. It's tiny, but 1180 01:06:39,799 --> 01:06:42,579 there's.. it doesn't seed as many as it used to. The people 1181 01:06:42,609 --> 01:06:44,049 are bigger now. Did you know that 1182 01:06:47,470 --> 01:06:49,570 spread them out a little bit? Yes, we're Americans, we 1183 01:06:52,899 --> 01:06:53,799 land issue. Yeah, 1184 01:06:54,250 --> 01:06:56,830 I also like the Temple Theater too. That was, 1185 01:06:57,490 --> 01:06:59,860 that's a great one too. And we're talking about going up 1186 01:06:59,950 --> 01:07:02,520 there, but I've got the palace reserved for this October. 1187 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:03,150 Sometimes 1188 01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:03,570 awesome, 1189 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,270 mid-October, I'll probably be back down there with my family, 1190 01:07:06,330 --> 01:07:09,240 and we just call it family and friends. And I used to have a 1191 01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:13,200 lot of friends come with me and get up and do a song or two, and 1192 01:07:14,490 --> 01:07:16,860 I wound up being more of the host, where I just kind of 1193 01:07:16,890 --> 01:07:20,070 bringing people out all the time, but now my family has come 1194 01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:24,020 on so much that just like featuring them a lot. 1195 01:07:24,169 --> 01:07:26,299 I don't blame you. They are very talented, but 1196 01:07:26,510 --> 01:07:26,960 they are, 1197 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,470 and you know, if you ever, you know, if Devin O'Day has ever, 1198 01:07:30,830 --> 01:07:33,830 you know, God bless her, I love her, but if she's ever, you 1199 01:07:33,860 --> 01:07:36,770 know, she can't do it, or you know, bring you on like she does 1200 01:07:36,860 --> 01:07:40,810 sometimes, we'd be glad to do. Yeah, 1201 01:07:40,990 --> 01:07:42,640 I think we could swing that. What do you think? 1202 01:07:42,759 --> 01:07:45,519 I think so. Or, if Devin wouldn't mind a couple of guys 1203 01:07:45,609 --> 01:07:46,059 being up there, 1204 01:07:46,210 --> 01:07:48,100 no, she'd love to be right in the middle of, yeah. 1205 01:07:48,310 --> 01:07:50,770 Oh, I love her, man. She is a sweetheart. 1206 01:07:50,860 --> 01:07:51,370 She is, 1207 01:07:51,849 --> 01:07:54,519 but I would suggest to anyone that if you ever get a chance to 1208 01:07:54,579 --> 01:07:58,209 go see Chris, no matter, he's on the road all the time. That's 1209 01:07:58,209 --> 01:08:00,719 why I had a hard time getting him in here, because I had to 1210 01:08:00,779 --> 01:08:03,449 look at his schedule. The dude's constantly on the road. 1211 01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:05,879 Well, I gotta keep it rolling. 1212 01:08:06,029 --> 01:08:06,749 That's right, baby, 1213 01:08:06,869 --> 01:08:07,019 gotta 1214 01:08:07,169 --> 01:08:12,299 keep it rolling. I got 478,000 miles on that vehicle 1215 01:08:14,730 --> 01:08:16,500 van. You can't give that up, can you? 1216 01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:20,580 No, it's like a part of the family now. 1217 01:08:21,750 --> 01:08:23,810 Yeah, you get sentimental about the vehicles, 1218 01:08:24,110 --> 01:08:28,220 so whenever I turned over 300,000 miles, I had this song 1219 01:08:28,460 --> 01:08:30,860 out, and a video of this got this van going through the 1220 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,300 cotton fields back home, and it's the song is called 1221 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,360 Grateful, and it's mainly called Grateful for the Road That Lies 1222 01:08:38,420 --> 01:08:41,410 Ahead, you know, it's the name of this song, I'm grateful for 1223 01:08:41,470 --> 01:08:44,590 the looking back, I'm thankful, and I'm grateful for the road 1224 01:08:44,650 --> 01:08:53,980 ahead, and you know, the one upstairs. Anyway, I wrote, I 1225 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:58,180 wrote Chevrolet. I knew that Ron Chancey had some contact with 1226 01:08:58,270 --> 01:09:00,690 them, did all those like a rock commercials with.. I thought, 1227 01:09:00,810 --> 01:09:03,240 man, you know, I'm gonna try to.. I would love to be able to 1228 01:09:03,270 --> 01:09:05,790 do it, you know. I thought this was just the best song for their 1229 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:10,290 whole next 10 year theme, man, of you know, turning the keys to 1230 01:09:10,350 --> 01:09:13,290 the old one in, getting the new car, looking in the rear view 1231 01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:17,730 mirror, you know, whatever. And I, so I wrote them, I sent them 1232 01:09:17,790 --> 01:09:21,350 that video, and I wrote to their department, I said, you know, 1233 01:09:22,790 --> 01:09:26,060 try to make it like just like my father and his father before 1234 01:09:26,150 --> 01:09:28,970 him. I'm a Chevy man, you know, and I just went through this 1235 01:09:29,060 --> 01:09:32,660 whole thing. I travel the byways and the back roads all across 1236 01:09:32,780 --> 01:09:36,560 America. I'm a troubadour, and this is what I do, and I'd love 1237 01:09:36,590 --> 01:09:41,720 to, you know, be considered for the consider this song. Said, 1238 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,550 well, congratulations on 300 miles to show you how much we 1239 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,370 appreciate you. We're gonna send you a free oil change. 1240 01:09:54,460 --> 01:09:57,970 Come on, give a guy a break. 1241 01:09:58,180 --> 01:10:00,600 Come on, I didn't want a new van, I just. Wanted to be able 1242 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,910 to sing a song, and I could have been able to afford a new 1243 01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:06,870 band. Have you ever done any? I mean, you got such a tremendous 1244 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,110 baritone. I mean, it's the family tradition there. I mean, 1245 01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:11,910 voiceover. You ever do anything like 1246 01:10:11,970 --> 01:10:12,660 that? I have. 1247 01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:14,040 I would think so. 1248 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,270 You know what's wild. Speaking of Chancey, they had called, 1249 01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:23,270 they were doing this thing for Hines 57 and they, they were 1250 01:10:23,390 --> 01:10:27,560 looking for a hillbilly voice, and it was these two guys, mid 1251 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,780 one was kind of midwest and one was southern, and they 1252 01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:36,350 auditioned people in Houston, Atlanta, and Nashville, and when 1253 01:10:36,380 --> 01:10:41,230 I went down there to audition, they at first wanted Dad, Ron 1254 01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:43,990 Chance, he said, William Golden is the most southern sounding 1255 01:10:44,050 --> 01:10:47,170 guy I know, but what it wound up being, they were going to do 1256 01:10:47,290 --> 01:10:51,490 these live events with these two guys, where we, they would go to 1257 01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:54,790 Talladega, they'd go to Pittsburgh to the Three Rivers 1258 01:10:55,060 --> 01:11:00,510 Fest, see Sea Fest in Seattle, we'd go to upstate New York to 1259 01:11:00,750 --> 01:11:03,570 the fair to look at Georgia South Florida, we would go all 1260 01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:07,950 over the country doing these events, and they said he's too 1261 01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,820 recognizable. People, nobody will believe that this guy is 1262 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,810 Jim Bruck, because they had to use a different name, but I 1263 01:11:16,050 --> 01:11:19,470 needed something bad to happen for me, and I needed something 1264 01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:23,300 good to happen for me in a bad way, real man. I prayed that 1265 01:11:23,390 --> 01:11:26,420 night before, Lord, if it be your will, please let this come 1266 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:30,680 my way. And I went out to Bradley's barn. There was Hoss 1267 01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:31,400 Burns, 1268 01:11:31,970 --> 01:11:32,180 oh yeah, 1269 01:11:32,930 --> 01:11:34,220 Charlie, Charlie Monk, 1270 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:35,150 oh yeah, 1271 01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:39,650 all of these DJs lining up to do this thing, because they knew it 1272 01:11:39,650 --> 01:11:47,020 was going to pay good and I just, I kept thinking, how would 1273 01:11:47,170 --> 01:11:56,230 Andy Griffith do it? You know, how good is some kind of 1274 01:11:56,410 --> 01:11:57,040 extra good. 1275 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,010 Oh, and I started just thinking about all that stuff, so bam, 1276 01:12:02,070 --> 01:12:04,920 before it was over, it was nothing but it's a great taste. 1277 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:12,690 57 I went out, I did that, and we would go to these events, and 1278 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,780 they would have a big booth set up, and they would, you know, 1279 01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:18,660 cooking steaks, and they were doing this steak sauce challenge 1280 01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:24,980 between a one and 57 and so my partner was the writer, the main 1281 01:12:25,070 --> 01:12:28,970 producer on it. It would be like you writing and producing it, 1282 01:12:29,090 --> 01:12:31,760 and then all of a sudden they couldn't find anybody better 1283 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:32,900 than you for the voice. 1284 01:12:33,230 --> 01:12:33,290 Yeah, 1285 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:38,510 so the he wound up, he was just doing the other read while they 1286 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,350 were auditioning. 1287 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:39,620 Yeah, 1288 01:12:40,190 --> 01:12:42,400 we'd get there, there were people from Chicago, from the 1289 01:12:42,460 --> 01:12:45,190 Leo Burnett agency. He was from Houston, he was the guy 1290 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,500 producing it. And then you'd have Heinz people from 1291 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,050 Pittsburgh, and we'd all get together at these big events. 1292 01:12:51,070 --> 01:12:54,640 They'd fly saying, and we'd be at the Talladega. I'd say, can 1293 01:12:54,700 --> 01:12:56,920 you tell me who got the checkered flag today? If this, 1294 01:12:57,190 --> 01:13:01,260 you know, you know who came in first, or you know, I was the. I 1295 01:13:01,380 --> 01:13:03,840 was the color commentator. Hey, my name is Jim Brook. What's 1296 01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:06,480 yours? And he'd say, well, what do you do for a living? I'm a 1297 01:13:06,510 --> 01:13:09,750 school teacher. Well, see if you can't educate me about this 1298 01:13:09,780 --> 01:13:13,200 steak sauce. That was my thing. Now that you've mentioned that, 1299 01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:21,020 I'm starting to kind of.. hey, nothing beats a great Heinz 57 I 1300 01:13:21,140 --> 01:13:22,880 did 93 of those with them, yeah. 1301 01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,450 Sam Elliott, you know that kind of a thing. I mean, I come 1302 01:13:26,510 --> 01:13:29,870 across different jobs all the time for voiceover. I, you know, 1303 01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:32,330 attempt to do them as best I can, but 1304 01:13:32,450 --> 01:13:33,800 if you've got one, you think I could 1305 01:13:36,110 --> 01:13:38,060 exchange cards before you leave. Same 1306 01:13:38,570 --> 01:13:38,750 here. Hey, 1307 01:13:38,900 --> 01:13:38,960 now, 1308 01:13:40,130 --> 01:13:43,510 yeah, I mean, you know, I do the voiceover stuff too, and you 1309 01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:45,970 know, I've got a couple of agents in the specs, you know, 1310 01:13:46,330 --> 01:13:50,020 always either they want somebody that sounds like Sam Elliott or 1311 01:13:50,110 --> 01:13:50,920 Morgan Freeman 1312 01:13:53,050 --> 01:13:53,800 or Trace Edgar. 1313 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:53,980 Yeah, 1314 01:13:55,660 --> 01:13:58,930 there is a Sam Elliott sound a lot out there. Yeah, I did this 1315 01:13:58,930 --> 01:14:02,220 one, Devin, that Devin called me about, and said, "Hey, this 1316 01:14:02,310 --> 01:14:04,950 electric company's looking for it, could be a pretty big deal. 1317 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:10,560 And I learned the script, and they produced it for me while we 1318 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,680 were on. They were the guy was on Zoom while I was recording. 1319 01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:17,250 Sure. Oh, wow. And he said, "Man, can you slow it down just 1320 01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:22,040 a little bit? Can you get any lower? So it was her, I told 1321 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,960 him, I said, "Man, if we could do it at like eight in the 1322 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:33,350 morning, and I had done this script, and I didn't get it, but 1323 01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:35,870 I was sitting there watching the Super Bowl, and I hear that 1324 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:36,740 commercial was like 1325 01:14:37,670 --> 01:14:43,810 that happens to me too, like I auditioned for that, and they'll 1326 01:14:43,930 --> 01:14:46,870 say, you know, we want non-announcer, that's that's the 1327 01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:49,270 thing, non-announcer, and then you hear the fight, you see the 1328 01:14:49,300 --> 01:14:54,790 final spot, and the guy sounds like the wait a minute, what the 1329 01:14:54,910 --> 01:14:55,060 hell, 1330 01:14:55,300 --> 01:14:55,360 yeah, 1331 01:14:56,020 --> 01:14:57,460 yeah, we call them pukers, yeah, 1332 01:14:58,450 --> 01:15:01,410 well, this one's, I think they wound. Up getting the Sam 1333 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,290 Elliott sound alike, because it was locking, you know, sounded 1334 01:15:04,350 --> 01:15:04,860 just like him. 1335 01:15:04,890 --> 01:15:07,770 Can you pull off a Morgan Freeman, Morgan Freeman? It got 1336 01:15:07,770 --> 01:15:08,790 us out of like an old man. 1337 01:15:09,450 --> 01:15:11,910 No, man, I pretty much got 1338 01:15:14,130 --> 01:15:14,970 one gear. 1339 01:15:16,770 --> 01:15:17,790 So, if I need a hillbilly, 1340 01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:22,400 I'm your guy. So many applications, so many 1341 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:23,150 applications. 1342 01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:24,020 What 1343 01:15:24,140 --> 01:15:24,800 tractor supply? 1344 01:15:25,970 --> 01:15:29,000 Well, tell your dad too, that he needs to get the Goldens, 1345 01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:33,110 William Lee and the Goldens back on the on the gig circuit, and 1346 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,400 we need to see more shows, 1347 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:35,060 you know. 1348 01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:38,030 Tell him Johnny B said that if he doesn't do it, I'm gonna come 1349 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:38,480 visit him. 1350 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:43,450 I hit on it, you know, we took some photos a couple of days 1351 01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:46,030 ago, and he got in some of them. We were doing some with the 1352 01:15:46,180 --> 01:15:51,820 kids, and so, because we go out and play and sing, I've just 1353 01:15:51,850 --> 01:15:55,300 done some solo shots. They do solo things themselves, so we 1354 01:15:55,420 --> 01:15:58,180 were doing a big photo shoot. They were going to be in some by 1355 01:15:58,330 --> 01:16:02,250 themselves, some with me, and then it's like Dad was there, 1356 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,720 and we got him in it on it, and I just said, "Man, I, we sure 1357 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,560 miss getting to do all that. I wish we could do it some more. I 1358 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,960 said, "I know these kids would sure have fun with it, and he 1359 01:16:13,470 --> 01:16:16,740 said, "Well, I'd sure enjoy it too. I'm sure you know, so 1360 01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:19,710 you got Michael Sykes, he can play. 1361 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,120 We're hopeful that we'll get some more things going there. 1362 01:16:23,150 --> 01:16:26,720 Well, I hope so, man. I hope everybody will check out your 1363 01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:27,200 site, 1364 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,890 Chris golden.net I'm pretty easy to find, man. 1365 01:16:31,130 --> 01:16:31,430 You are 1366 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,150 on all the socials, and Chris Golden, Chris Golden Muse at 1367 01:16:35,210 --> 01:16:40,210 Chris golden.net and out there on bands in town. If you want to 1368 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,570 keep up with where I'm coming, and are going, 1369 01:16:43,900 --> 01:16:46,030 yeah, and go out and see him, because I'm telling you, you, 1370 01:16:46,150 --> 01:16:50,200 you will enjoy it. This guy is a great entertainer, he's a great 1371 01:16:50,350 --> 01:16:50,560 singer. 1372 01:16:50,890 --> 01:16:54,070 Got a brand new album coming here in about three weeks, it's 1373 01:16:54,160 --> 01:17:00,340 called A Better Man, and our Better Man, I wrote about half 1374 01:17:00,490 --> 01:17:03,660 of them on at this time got one called Where My People Are that 1375 01:17:03,690 --> 01:17:07,140 I'm really excited about, and it's just, I know I sing a lot 1376 01:17:07,170 --> 01:17:10,980 of songs about home and all, but it's about where my people are 1377 01:17:11,070 --> 01:17:13,560 waiting, and you know, in the third verse makes it to heaven, 1378 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,930 so that's where my people are, and that's where I want to go. 1379 01:17:16,230 --> 01:17:19,890 The further I get away, the more I want to get where they are, 1380 01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:20,310 you know. Oh, 1381 01:17:20,580 --> 01:17:24,830 exactly. And I have to tell you, your song, Home Man, that helped 1382 01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:27,650 me so much when I was going through a rough patch. 1383 01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:28,250 Well, 1384 01:17:28,430 --> 01:17:32,930 and it, no songs ever made me cry, but that one did. Yeah, 1385 01:17:33,380 --> 01:17:34,100 it's really good, 1386 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,750 man. We all hit them little patches, and look at you now, 1387 01:17:42,620 --> 01:17:47,290 I have to say, this guy on Twitter, after I was let go, he 1388 01:17:48,010 --> 01:17:50,710 really put out something inspirational out there to just 1389 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,280 really touch me. Wow, he said I would land on my feet like a 1390 01:17:54,430 --> 01:17:58,300 cat, said I was cool as a cat, and I would land on my feet like 1391 01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:58,780 a cat. 1392 01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:59,260 Well, 1393 01:17:59,560 --> 01:17:59,980 very nice. 1394 01:18:00,370 --> 01:18:02,250 I think I've about used all mine up now. 1395 01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:08,070 You can come back and see us sometime, 1396 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,390 man. That'd be a lot of fun. I appreciate this. 1397 01:18:12,540 --> 01:18:12,780 Well, you're 1398 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,230 always fun, and my wife loves you, and your wife, 1399 01:18:16,350 --> 01:18:16,530 so I 1400 01:18:16,830 --> 01:18:17,340 love her too. 1401 01:18:17,580 --> 01:18:21,230 Oh, she's sweet. Yes, she is. But definitely come back and see 1402 01:18:21,290 --> 01:18:24,980 us, and check out Chris Golden, and you can check out Circling 1403 01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:26,150 the Drain too. Tell them, 1404 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:30,050 absolutely, we're also.net that would be Circling the drain.net 1405 01:18:31,340 --> 01:18:34,940 and of course, all the social media platforms, the video 1406 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,710 platforms on social media, YouTube, Facebook, etc. Twitter, 1407 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,270 you can find us there, and of course, you can also find us on 1408 01:18:43,390 --> 01:18:46,630 all of the audio platforms, Apple Podcasts, etc. 1409 01:18:47,410 --> 01:18:48,160 Thank you, Brother Jay. 1410 01:18:48,460 --> 01:18:48,790 Yes, sir. 1411 01:18:49,090 --> 01:18:53,080 Brother Jim, well, I'll be back again. Join us here for Circling 1412 01:18:53,140 --> 01:18:53,530 the Drain.