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Unknown: Yeah, I wish we just
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there. Yeah, well, it's funny.
You bring that up. Somebody on

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your crew, like, well, into the
tour, commented like, Oh, I

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didn't realize you guys were
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still in a van. Oh, my, that's
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hang out because, like, we
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No, we just to keep up with your
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soon as we got off stage. 2021

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you guys were in a van, and now
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Entertainer of the Year, a
Grammy you played on the new

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record. You probably have an
awesome drum tech. People are

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throwing gear at you. They're
like, here's a jacket. Kid.

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Throw this jacket on, wear it on
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This is the rich Redmond show.

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I was thinking, what should we
kind of pivot and talk about

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today? And then I noticed that
you were wearing yet another car

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hard shirt, but it's in a
different color, olive green,

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which is very you like it,
right? Flattering, yeah,

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it's good. I just go to the
Tractor Supply and pick them out

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some

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I just wonder, if you both bulk,
bulk purchase, where you have

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one for every day of the week.
The

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thing is, it looks good. It's
durable. Okay, check them out.

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Tractor supply.com,

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go to your local tractor
supplying for

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for sponsors, right as well.
We're sponsorless right now. I

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hear Tractor Supply

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has money for that kind of
thing. We could use some of that

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money. And Tractor Supply, we'd
love some of your money.

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I was listening to some old
episodes where we had, you know,

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Angie and Kelly McCarthy rock
were sponsoring things and and,

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you know, you produce the ads,
and there's some pro level

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stuff.

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It's like when in Wayne's World,
when everything was sponsored?

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Yeah, yeah. It's like, you know,
I just cracked open another

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bottle of pure life water. Well,
you stop, for some reason, I

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have two open bottles next to
me, and I opened up another one.

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So pure life, for when you want
purity in life, I

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like how you're breaking the
fourth wall and looking right

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into the camera.

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And so this is a new thing that
we're trying to start.

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Obviously, we have begun the
episode of the rich Redmond

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show. It's usually very
exciting. We talk about things

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like music, motivation and
success. Those are the three

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things that come up without
fail. But today we, you know, we

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have had the grant cardones on.
We have had the Victoria Jackson

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Bradley. We've had Bradley on
which I read his book. It's good

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the hard way, the hard way,
lessons he's learned in life the

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hard way. So you don't have to
That's right. And so I've been

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enjoying that with my morning
coffee. And we've had on guys

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like Huey Lewis, great stuff.
But we people want to know about

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drummers, because, you know,
this is the songwriting capital

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of the world, Nashville,
Tennessee. Someone's writing a

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hit song right now, but without
that drummer to bake the cake,

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to build the foundation, this is
just poetry swimming around the

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ether, swimming around the
uterus. We make things happen.

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So let's get into it. I'm really
excited for this young man today

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and hailing from Laurel,
Maryland, apparently it's 20

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minutes from DC, big city boy
celebrating 10 years in

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Nashville. I met him really
early on. We were on tour

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together in 2021 he is the
touring and recording drummer

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for the award winning country
recording artist Lainey Wilson.

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Look at this. Seven CMAs, six
ACMs. She's a Grammy winner,

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Entertainer of the Year, and
this was all in under five

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years. Our friend Matt Nolan,
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up, buddy? Hey man, thank you
guys for having me.

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Yeah, thanks for coming. You
were you're so punctual.

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Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, I
live just a bit away from here.

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You're in the Herm Exactly.
That's what me Kurt and Tilly

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used to call it, because we have
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house in Hermitage and
Donaldson, yeah. And we were, it

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was great, because in those days
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you're right by the airport.

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It's fantastic on fly dates.
Just there. It's a very quick

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Uber ride, yeah, but yeah, it's
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and more cats are ending up in.
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you in a band house, or are you
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fiance, Fallon, and I have a
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about four years, so it's great
the transition away from band

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house, living. Fiance,

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congratulations, man, thank you.
What do you guys? Is it like a

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loose date or

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no, we're set when we're we're
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March 20 I didn't get an
invitation, but no, rich Neither

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did I. No, it's a thing, man.
You know, it's like, I get it

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because, you know, just call me
Ross. I'm the divorce guy. I

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believe in love. I keep getting
married. But you've got to feed

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these people. You've got to, you
know, and God forbid, the cash

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bar. I get the cash bar, though,
because this is, like, you know,

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bunch of musicians, hey, drunks,
you have to

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rock the cash bar. Her

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rock to Casper. Give me some
good apps. All right, nice. So

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are you keeping it intimate?
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you know, trying to keep it
small, it ended up working out

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to where we actually got a
Saturday, nice. And

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did you clear it with with Miss
Wilson? So it was like, Hey,

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we're not gonna add something.
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to, yeah, here's the thing, the
best of her ability, right?

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You've been married while you
were with Jason. Yep, you went

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through a wedding. You're about
to go through one. Do you invite

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your boss? Is that? Yeah?
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Invite your boss. Yeah, yeah,
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It's like, you know, when I
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there three months before my
wife and I got married, and my

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boss was like, I'm not invited.
I'm like, Dude, I just moved

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here three months ago. I just
met you. And he's like, I'd

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still like to be invited. I'm
like, I'm sorry. I'll think

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about that next time. I'm 25 I
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it's 2000 miles away. Awkward.
Sure you're invited. If you can

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make it, we'll have you. Hey,

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you know what I gotta tell you,
Jim, I'll tell you. I tell you

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to invite Jason. I'll tell you
off camera. Okay, I'll tell you

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off camera. But there is a
wedding happening very soon with

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one of my students. And I have
mentored this kid for like, 15

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years. I did not get invitation,

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like things that make you go,
Hmm, what did I do?

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last married,

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oh, with um, Cindy. Cindy tried
to think what our marriage was

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like. I remember the the

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I mean, he hosted your
engagement party at his house, I

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would think that you probably
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Dude, I'm blanking, man, really,
yeah, I really am. Wow,

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all I've got is your your
student might have assumed

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you're just busy. Yeah, because
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That makes everyone feel better.

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Oh, my God, you know what? You
know, I just, I think you're a

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delightful guy. I have a little
guilt, because when you were out

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on the road with us in 2021 I
think that I was still carrying

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around this weird I had a rough
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okay, and emotionally, as we all
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some people were just like,
Dude, it's fine, man. I wrote my

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best songs during that period. I
was great. It's like, Man, I

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went through most of it in Los
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zombie apocalypse. It was so
intense and so strict, and it

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just got in my mind. And so when
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in 21 we were still scrubbing up
and testing up. And, yeah, I

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wish we just had hung a little
bit more out there. Yeah,

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well, it's funny. You bring that
up. Somebody on your crew, like,

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well, into the tour, commented
like, Oh, I didn't realize you

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guys were driving yourself, like
we were still in a van. Oh, my,

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that's what I thought. We didn't
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we weren't into it or something.
No, we just to keep up with your

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tour busses, we had to leave as
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2021 you guys were in a van, and
now there's seven CMAs, six

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ACMs, an Entertainer of the
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new record. You probably have an
awesome drum tech. People are

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throwing gear at you. They're
like, here's a jacket. Kid,

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throw this jacket on. Wear it on
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Jacket. Yes, drums now, but not
yet. You know, well, you're a

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sonar guy. Hey, I'm with sonar,
and happy to be they've been

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great. They've been very
helpful, nice, but, yeah, but

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we talked about that yesterday
on another episode, that sonar

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is really going on the offense?
Yeah, they're getting

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aggressive. They're getting
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So I've noticed, I'm not privy
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I've noticed some additions.

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You know, KHS is, it's May it's
maypex. KHS sonar, right? So, is

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it one of your go to guys,
Henry, go is Henry?

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Is my, my sonar Artist
Relations, okay, so I

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know Henry, so it's the best I'm
gonna text Henry right after

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this thing. Let's because Henry
and I were like, drinking

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buddies at the red door for
like, a decade, okay, when he

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was working at innovative
percussion.

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Well, in a past life, you played
sonar, right? I did for for a

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decade,

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right? Yeah. And I loved all the
drums I had the I had the S

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class I had the the lights, and
I had the SQ twos rescue one was

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SQ one, sq two, sq two. And I
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the S Class kit, 22, inch kick,
1216, and I recorded that, are

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you going to kiss me or not?
2011 Thompson square song on,

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and it was so it's kind of like
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history.

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What's their high line? Like,
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right? Is it SQ too? Yeah.

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Well, this particular year, it's
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yeah, ordinarily the SQ two

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because, you know, Mercedes has
an S class. And it's the

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flagship of the brand, yes. So
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connection to Mercedes there.
They made these drums in the 70s

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and 80s called the phonic,
sorry, the pharaoh manganese

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snares, yes. And apparently they
really had the same metal that

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Mercedes made the hood, or
admits out of really? Yeah, they

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source the metal in the exact
same place. I wonder if they

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have a kinship. Well, other than
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by chance, looking for a, you
know, one off guy to endorse for

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a Huey Lewis and a news tribute
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that sounds like exactly what

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they're that's what they're
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for. Jim is in a Huey lose
tribute band, and they are

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playing may 28 at City winery.
That's the city winery, and me

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and about 10 other drummers are
gonna have a giant like last

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supper type table, that's right,
and we're gonna drink wine and

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eat pizzas and watch you sit
there judge me and laugh. No

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judging, but that's right,
that's a tough book, man. He's

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got this one song. It's 12
minutes. It's a 12 minute medley

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with a bunch of pushes and
figures, and it goes into Boys

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Are Back of town. There's a 16
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to go back

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into, like, a New Orleans, New
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And Jim doesn't play all the
time, you know what I mean. But

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he's getting back into it, yeah,
first very,

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very first day. Yeah, we're
three months out from it.

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Hey, so you're not, um, you're
not a girl. So I can ask you how

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are, correct on both fronts. I'm
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yeah, because the girls don't
like that. So 36 that is a great

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time. I would say it's a great
time in a man's life, I had a

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great time between 36 and like
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things were happening late. It
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I agree, Work Life has been
good. Home Life is great, yeah,

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you know, enjoying some things
that have come from all the hard

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work up to this point, yeah, you
know. So, yeah, it does feel

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good.

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36 is going okay, soak it up. So
before you connected with Laney,

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you spent some time with Maggie
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and then the Morrison Brothers
Band. Tell us about that,

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because I have some experience
with the Morrison Brothers

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Band. Do I not? You do?

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Yeah, the Morrison Brothers Band
was a country rock band my

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brother now we're in, and that
was a band we moved to Nashville

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with. And for those of you
listening, I first met rich. We

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were writing songs. This is, I
don't know how much of that

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you're still doing. I'm not
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but yeah at that time, yeah and
yeah. So we got introduced and

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met on a songwriting
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yeah, that was,

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that was really so it's fun. We
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the song we wrote that

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day. I'm sure, if I look hard
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I could probably pull it

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out. Yeah, I'm wondering if
there's a iPhone recorder demo

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I do. And I remember you brought
your, your hand drum, yeah, your

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Jim Bay, yeah, that was the
percussion on the work tape. I

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love

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it because you can make it sound
like a kick and a snare and it

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and then once you get that, that
iPhone recorder out, it

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compresses it delightfully,
yeah, you know. But yeah, no,

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it's, I would say it's hard to
keep both of those worlds alive,

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you know. So I had my publishing
deal for five years, and my

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buddies, Curt and Tully, you
know, Curt and Tully, they kind

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of kept going with it, yeah, and
I asked to not up my deal again.

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But you're at a point where you
don't, man, you don't need a

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deal. You can just write great
songs and you have great

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relationships.

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Yeah, I would say where it's
where it's ended up is I

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wouldn't want a publisher to
feel like they didn't have my

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focus. And now, yeah, while
there was a time in my life

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where I was aggressively
pursuing a publishing deal,

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yeah, it doesn't seem offhand
like a publisher would feel like

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they were getting the most of me
well, because you only have

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three days a week to play with.
Yeah, we still write, you know,

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situationally, it makes sense.
And we, we've written with Laney

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here and there, you know. Well,

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that is really smart, because
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the room next to her and she
hears something she likes you

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like, hey, yeah, come check this
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Yeah, I wish that would have
more often. But she doesn't seem

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to be pressed for good ideas.
They're, yeah, they're flowing

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right now, yeah, you gotta, you
gotta muscle in to get her

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attention when it comes to
songwriting.

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So all these great experiences
you guys have done all the you

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know, the Grand Ole Opry gotta
do that you got tonight. Show,

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Kimmel today. Show, Good Morning
America. Dallas Cowboys,

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Thanksgiving Day, I think we did
some sort of thing like that.

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Fun. I was really upset that
they didn't have turkey for us.

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They had chicken, fried chicken.
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no, we had turkey. Yes, because
you guys are, you

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know, great. ACM, CMAs, people,
choice words. Any good memories

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here? Favorite, green rooms.
Favorite. At situations.

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Oh, I don't know the green
rooms. I'm sure you know it.

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They all look the same. Every
loading dock looks the same. I

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know, you know,

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we don't really see Jim was
like, you haven't seen Mount

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Rushmore? I was like, I have,
no, I haven't seen the Grand

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Canyon.

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I haven't personally been to the
Grand Canyon. I have personally

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been to Mount Rushmore once.
Yeah, but yeah, there's

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certainly some performances that
stand out. Yeah. But yet, the

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minutia, the daily stuff, it's
crazy, how it does kind of run

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together. Now, what

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do you do to keep your sanity?
Are you like a are you workout

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guy? Are you a reading guy? Or
you go find a local coffee shop?

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Guy, definitely

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find the coffee shop. I try to
stay in a practice routine. It

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just seems like a thing that you
can occupy amounts of time on

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the road, yeah, working on the
hands, the pads and constructive

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way to to waste time,

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yes, so you don't get into
death, scrolling and all that

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kind of stuff. It

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happens. Yes, I'm aware that,
you know, there are better ways

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to keep your mind. I

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mean, I'll do it. I'm like, oh
my god, yeah, here's an hour.

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What am I doing? Yeah, yeah,
sucks,

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yeah. I should get into some
kind of workout routine though.

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You know, well,

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you're just naturally lean,

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yeah, I thought you were about
to say strong. You're

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naturally lean. And thank God I
didn't wear that jacket today,

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because they have the same
jacket. Was that, right? Yeah,

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just throw it on. It works. Man,
this

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is always faithful. Yeah? I was
thinking the same thing.

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Does Carhartt make a

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jean jacket type thing? Of
course, definitely they make

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it's a canvas, yeah, it's
durable. Now,

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what's the deal with that
company? Is it like a Dickies,

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kind of like work wear. Is that
how they started? Durability.

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You

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want to go out, you know, work
on the ranch, yeah, do some

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electrical work, get up on
ladders and crawl through

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addicts. This is the clothing to
wear. Car hard at Tractor

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barrel. Tractor barrel.

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Tractor barrel. Let's get

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hybrid advertisers. Let's start
a store called tractor barrel.

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Well,

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we had, we had Eric Pritchard on
the show, you know, Megan

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drummer, and he was talking
about getting barreled, you

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know, by this getting barreled
thing. He loves Cracker Barrel.

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Okay? He goes around and he eats
at all the Cracker Barrels in

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the country. And he takes a
signed eight by 11, and he has

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him framed, and he puts them on
the walls at all the Cracker

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Barrels,

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okay? And they're in black and
white. That's

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awesome. Do people not stop you?
They're like, Oh, sir, what are

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you doing? He goes, No, I just
make sure that there's like, a

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little empty space on the wall
kind of away from folks. And I

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just, he has one of those, those
stick them things, the two sided

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tape or whatever. It isn't nice.
So smart,

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the closest I think I've done in
past bands. You know, remember

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when Starbucks used to sell CDs?
Yeah? You know, sometimes you

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happen to leave five or six in
there.

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That's really smart, but, and
it's but, it's got the but they

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couldn't run it through the
register. No, obviously not. It

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was just for grassroots
marketing, you know? Yeah,

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whatever happened? Happened? Ah,
that's smart. So are you

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Starbucks guy? Because there's a
Starbucks right there. It

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happens to

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be the closest coffee shop to my
house, you know, meow. Oh, yeah.

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Did they get because I'm always
Mitch Rich

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has noted that the cup says meow
and there's a cat face drawn on

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it. I have no idea what that's
about.

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I don't know. Maybe there was a
girl that was thought you were

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meow.

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Hard to say.

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So you're always, did they do
that on purpose? By chance

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get your name wrong? Yeah. Well,
I have a friend, Stockton, hell

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big, and he is an instructor, a
drum set instructor, at the

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University of North Texas, and
he used to tour with Maynard

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Ferguson. Oh, no. So there's an
on campus Starbucks, and what he

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does every day, it's his viral
post that he puts on, and he

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just takes a picture of the
different names he gets. He goes

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to the same place every day, and
they have never gotten his name

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right. Stockton, really
interesting. No, it's like, you

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know, stick man or stock you
know, it's, it's always wrong

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every day. So,

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wow, yeah, crazy. It's, I don't
know what. I don't get Starbucks

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enough for them to screw up my
name. So you're always Mitch

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nine times out of 10. I met you.
How do you get Mitch from rich?

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I understand the obvious, yeah,
but ruh and muh,

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unless I'm a mumbler, I don't
know.

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I think it's part of like the
game within the game is they're

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going to put something other
than your actual name on. It's

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like thing no matter what. Yeah,

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it's like putting a picture up
at Cracker Barrel. Now, I guess

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you know, it's going to become
like an internet sensation of

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some sort virality,

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yeah. Now I was looking here
that you went to Loyola in New

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Orleans, and I was thinking to
myself, well, maybe that's the

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connection with Lainey, because
she's from Louisiana, too.

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She is. She's from northern
Louisiana,

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and the way that state's shaped,
it's not all that close to New

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Orleans. Yeah, yeah, I think she
did like that detail that we've

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spent time there and appreciated

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it. Yeah, did the whole band get
hired as an ensemble? No,

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I. No, definitely not. We kind
of came one by one, huh? Who?

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Who's the first to be hired so
Aslan, the guitar player and the

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band leader. He's been playing
with her since before she was

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signed. They were playing bars
together. Nice. I didn't come

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aboard until 2020. She had
recently gotten a record deal.

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My brother was the year before
me, Tommy, our bass player, was

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the year after me. He also did
some subbing. So yeah, it was

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kind of one by one. And then we
have the fantastic sav Madigan,

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who plays, really, any stringed
instrument, anything with a

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strings are bought off. I love
those guys. Yeah, she's been

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with us for over a year now,
that's awesome. So yeah, we're

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up to five piece backing band,
and

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you guys don't have a dress
code. You're allowed to be as

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hip and crazy as you want. All

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we've ever been told is, you
know, look fitting, yeah? So the

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sky's the limit. She doesn't
usually dress down on stage, no,

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as you know, it's an event,
yeah? So it can be a high bar,

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yeah? But yeah, no, they've it's
not like a dress code or

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anything.

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Yeah, you're not required to
wear bell bottoms. No,

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I would say encouraged, but not,
not required, very difficult to

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play drums. Yeah? It would
totally get stuck. Yeah, it's

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happened. It really inopportune
times before. Oh, I hate that.

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Yeah. So

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she is speaking of all the
engagements going on. She just

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got engaged

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two days ago, apparently. Huh?
She did. It was last week. Yeah.

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So are you expecting to get
invited to

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hers? I'm not sure you know
it's, it's, it's, whatever it is

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we we invited her to ours. Said,
Hey, I understand there's 1000

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reasons why this might not work
for you, and that's fine. Yeah,

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did

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you use maybe some Catholic
guilt in there? But you know,

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we'd love to see you there, but
we get it. Yeah, do what you

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need to do. He's

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doing impersonation of his

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my mother, his mother. Yeah, my
mother used to do that, gotta

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rest your soul, gotta rest your
soul. And I could actually say

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that. It makes sense now, but
there's a my mother was the kind

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of person that would be like,
Oh, where you going? We I grew

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up in the Northeast with a
cigarette in her mouth. Where

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you going? I'm gonna go out. You
know, I could be telling her,

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this is the best thing that's
ever gonna happen to me. I

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imagine this event is going to
be played in the scenes you see

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before you die. You know how you
see your life flash before your

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eyes? I anticipate this event to
be one of those things. This is

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going to be so monumental. And
I've been so looking forward to

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it. Oh, good, because when you
get back, we got something to

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talk about, sort of God, we had
to ruin it, yeah? So you could,

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you know, it's, it's effective,
right? For people who don't know

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that they're being, you know,
Rick rolled, Catholic style,

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Catholic girls, little Frank

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Zappa. So what did your parents
do? I'm sure they were

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supportive. Yeah, very

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supportive. Neither were
musicians. Both music fans,

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yeah? Dad had a big record
collection. Mom always had the

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oldies station on. And at the
time I was growing up, that

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primarily meant we were
listening to music from the, you

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know, late 50s and 60s, yeah? So
Motown, Memphis, Muscle Shoals,

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you know, little Mary wall, wall
of sound. Beatles, all of that.

440
00:23:23,300 --> 00:23:27,380
Yeah, British invasion. That
was, that was always on when we

441
00:23:27,380 --> 00:23:30,380
were riding around with mom. So
it was really their listening

442
00:23:30,620 --> 00:23:35,060
and their enthusiasm for what
they listened to that this music

443
00:23:35,060 --> 00:23:37,760
thing must have emerged from my
brother and I Yeah, so what

444
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,020
you're so with your brother? I
mean, you probably had some

445
00:23:41,020 --> 00:23:42,700
family bands pretty early on, we

446
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:46,420
did. We struggled to find some
guys that live nearby to play

447
00:23:46,420 --> 00:23:50,440
with. But once I got maybe,
like, late high school, and we

448
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,740
were starting to drive each
other around, we found some guys

449
00:23:53,740 --> 00:23:57,880
and started, yeah, playing at
coffee houses and, you know,

450
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,380
church events, whatever we could
find, yeah, you know, we would

451
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,640
go well out of our way to play
music in front of people, yes,

452
00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:07,740
and continue to do so for many
years.

453
00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:10,800
Yeah, I love that, and I love
hearing about that, because not

454
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,420
to sound like the Get off my
lawn guy, but I usually say one

455
00:24:15,420 --> 00:24:17,580
thing per episode that sounds
like, Get off my lawn. But, you

456
00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:21,860
know, the crazy kids now they're
like, learning just how to DJ.

457
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,700
And it's like, I like the idea
of, like, just being passionate

458
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:29,240
about a musical instrument and
doing and working on this craft,

459
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,880
and then finding the people to
get into a room to do the thing,

460
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:38,060
and then you're like, Yeah, play
the school prom. Heck, yeah, you

461
00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:38,360
know.

462
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,180
But no, that's, that's the
attitude, right? Whether we were

463
00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:46,540
under rehearsed, whether we had
one too few people on stage,

464
00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:51,160
whether we were too novice to be
really executing the music in

465
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,620
the set, like when you're that
age, it's just get me in front

466
00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:55,480
of people with the drum set I'm
there.

467
00:24:55,540 --> 00:24:58,300
Yeah, there's something about
when you add that audience into

468
00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,920
the room, it just, it just. It
gives it purpose, and it

469
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,700
focuses, and it's like, I'm
sending this out to you, baby.

470
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:09,240
Would you do that? You'd
actually identify somebody?

471
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,620
Would you play to somebody I
like to

472
00:25:10,620 --> 00:25:12,300
like? Do you pick people out?
Yeah,

473
00:25:12,540 --> 00:25:15,840
every once in a while, yeah,
yeah, you definitely do. I've

474
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,740
seen you do it, yeah,

475
00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:20,840
you pick people out. And that
way, you know, everybody in that

476
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,860
area kind of feels special,
right? Because they're

477
00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:27,320
like, Wow, he's really focusing.
Who tell you my ticos Torres

478
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,520
story? Um,

479
00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:32,360
is this when he was playing with
a screwdriver in his hand

480
00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:35,600
instead of drumsticks or what? I
don't know, what? What story?

481
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,420
What? No, there was one time
where he didn't have drumsticks.

482
00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:41,140
Did you have a drum? I think he
was auditioning for the band or

483
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:44,020
something, and he picked up,
like, two wrenches or something.

484
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,220
I had a guy. We had saw, we saw
Bon Jovi at Mandalay Bay, yeah.

485
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,240
And because of my connections in
radio on this particular tour,

486
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,220
Bon Jovi had like, side stage
access, where they would platoon

487
00:25:57,220 --> 00:25:59,860
people up and they got to hang
out for about 20 minutes on

488
00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:02,700
either side of the stage and
watch the band up close. And

489
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:06,600
John would come by and high five
people and stuff, and Courtney

490
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,480
and I got to go up there, and
she was in front of me, and she

491
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,780
wanted to she was a huge fan of
Jon Bon Jovi. And if you

492
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:15,240
mentioned this, she'll point to
her arm and shake. This is where

493
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,480
He sweated, right? But the whole
time, like I was just watching

494
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,140
Tiko play, and he and I just
locked eyes. And it's like, one

495
00:26:24,140 --> 00:26:26,480
of those things where you kind
of look at somebody like, hey,

496
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,900
and you kind of need to look
away. And you're like, he just

497
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:33,800
kept looking at you. He was
like, just lasers, just burning

498
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,060
holes through the back of my

499
00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:37,640
head. Something must have been
going on in his brain. He was

500
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,280
kind of just kind of looking in
that direction. He was probably

501
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,220
thinking about what he was
playing, I wouldn't take it

502
00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:42,700
personally. Oh,

503
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:45,040
I didn't take it personally. It
was just kind of off putting,

504
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,440
yeah, which, you know, something
I need to do is get off putting.

505
00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:51,340
Oh, Jim, give us. Give yourself
a good I mean, these are dad

506
00:26:51,340 --> 00:26:54,400
jokes to the extreme. I think
you have a you have a doctorate

507
00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:58,780
in and bad jokes waiting for it.
Do you know our buddy Tony Mora?

508
00:26:58,780 --> 00:27:01,680
He's like, a great session
drummer here in town. He's been

509
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,560
here 30 years anyways, right up
the road in Franklin, he's got,

510
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,700
he was the first cat in
Nashville to take his garage and

511
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:11,280
turn it into a world class
recording studio. Okay? And

512
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,220
like, he was in mixed magazine,
and all these producers in

513
00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:16,620
Nashville were, like, they had
it out for him, and they were

514
00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:18,840
sending them, like, mean
messages, Hey, man, you're

515
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,220
ruining things for people that
he just was a visionary. He saw

516
00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:25,520
that. That's where it was going.
Yeah? Jon Bon Jovi recorded

517
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,500
vocals in his studio

518
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,320
last week. That's a good reason
to reach back out to the haters

519
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,060
and be like, what were you
saying? Yeah?

520
00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:36,800
Because, you know, as these as
commercial studios are

521
00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:42,700
demolished, yeah, it's not a big
deal to have somebody, a

522
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,760
celebrity, go to someone's
basement, right, to record

523
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,440
something. Yeah, it's very
common,

524
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,960
because it's like, now they're
getting so more access

525
00:27:50,140 --> 00:27:53,980
accessible, yeah, you know what
I mean, yeah. I mean, but then

526
00:27:53,980 --> 00:27:57,100
again, I'm biased, because I've
been around celebrity for a

527
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:59,800
majority of my professional
life. Yeah, you got to get used

528
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,760
to them here. You know, you
actually put your pants on one

529
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,660
leg at a time, but

530
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:07,020
when you do make gold records,
yeah? Hey, do you have a place

531
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:09,120
for you to kind of make some
noise at the house, or they do

532
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:13,020
little recording? Yeah? I have a
converted garage. That's

533
00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:18,420
what you did, yeah? So is it
completely soundproofed?

534
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:24,320
No, no. The exterior walls have
been modified so that hopefully

535
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,240
it's not so obvious what's going
on,

536
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:31,640
so the doors don't go up, or if
they do, it's just another wall

537
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,780
in front of it. I

538
00:28:32,780 --> 00:28:35,840
wish, yeah, it wasn't a massive
space to begin with. So there

539
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,080
are very obvious things that
most studios do that we were

540
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,920
just going to lose too much
square footage on but yeah,

541
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,320
reducing the amount of volume
that leaked out into the

542
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,120
neighborhood seemed like a
useful and a polite idea.

543
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,580
There's got to be a level of
forgiveness from neighbors if

544
00:28:51,580 --> 00:28:53,680
it's during the day. Yeah,

545
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,380
yeah, they're all pretty cool.
We're close with our neighbors,

546
00:28:56,380 --> 00:29:01,200
and the house closest to that
room, there's folks that rent

547
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,920
that. So really, we kind of
lucked out. If they had a

548
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,920
problem with it, I'm not sure
they could really affect much.

549
00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:11,580
That's good, but no more lucky.
You know that everybody's just

550
00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:13,320
cool. Everybody's looking out
for each other.

551
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:14,880
More than anything, it's more of
like

552
00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:19,980
it's sending a smoke signal out
into the universe. Come rob me.

553
00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:20,840
You know what I mean,

554
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,900
exactly, exactly. So it was
important to us to be a little

555
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:26,600
bit more discreet about it. And
I can hear two other musicians

556
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,060
on our street. I mean, so you're
never far,

557
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,820
Alex, I heard the first Garage
Band the other day across the

558
00:29:31,820 --> 00:29:34,520
street in my neighborhood. Yeah,
it was a guitar it must have

559
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,820
been a kid with his drums and a
guitar player just having a

560
00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:40,700
ball. Now, that just warms my
heart.

561
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:43,300
It really does, because that's
what that's where we came from.

562
00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:47,380
That's where I came from. Yeah,
man, no, in a garage totally.

563
00:29:47,380 --> 00:29:50,800
And you know, those guys play
if, as long as they can decently

564
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,800
play it's not annoying, yeah,
you know, yeah. So I'd imagine

565
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,260
that even if it's loud, but
hearing somebody play their

566
00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:59,560
instrument tastefully, you don't
really mind it, yeah, I wouldn't

567
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,200
think so. You know, yeah,

568
00:30:01,380 --> 00:30:04,320
yeah. And as long as it's not
gratuitous, you know, I'm not,

569
00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:08,640
I'm not banging away at midnight
or strange hours, or six in the

570
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,180
morning, you

571
00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:13,020
know, you know, 10 to 6am is
kind of when I want to practice

572
00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:14,580
my blast beats. That's a

573
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:18,240
fantastic time to practice. My
favorite time to practice, yeah,

574
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:21,500
the way home life is right now,
that's not the routine I've

575
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:22,820
ended up in. Oh,

576
00:30:22,940 --> 00:30:24,620
you know, Sepultura hour at 4am

577
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,820
how many dates are you guys
doing these days?

578
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:36,080
This coming year? I think we're
shooting for 75 ish the last two

579
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,900
years. No, sorry, the last four
years, it's been considerably

580
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:42,760
more. Yeah, the year we were out
with you guys, we were somewhere

581
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,720
up near 150

582
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,120
and it was like 180

583
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,960
then 150 again, in last year was
120

584
00:30:50,380 --> 00:30:54,100
but the 100 something was in a
van. You guys went to the bus in

585
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,600
2022 right, yeah,

586
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,580
that sounds right, yeah, I
believe so. So

587
00:30:57,580 --> 00:31:00,540
that's when she really kind of
hit. Was around that time. Yeah,

588
00:31:00,540 --> 00:31:00,720
we

589
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,740
had our first, I say we she had
her first big hit while we were

590
00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:08,820
on the road with you guys. Yeah?
Because I remember the moment we

591
00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:11,880
found out it went number one. We
had a cake. And I remember there

592
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,460
was guys from yours band and
grew and they're celebrating

593
00:31:14,460 --> 00:31:18,240
just eating, eating all the
cake. Yeah, I remember I offered

594
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,240
someone I was walking around.
They were like, invite all the

595
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,020
guys. And I was like, Hey, do
you want you want cake? And

596
00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:26,960
somebody thought I was making a
reference to something else.

597
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,880
They thought it was code for
something. I was like, No, we

598
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,120
literally have cake. Would you
like some? I was like, Man,

599
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,660
you've been hanging out with
with yours band too long. Most

600
00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:38,540
people mean, do you want a piece
of cake?

601
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,920
Yeah, cake has a different
meaning, though, I guess,

602
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:47,500
anyway. But yeah, it was, it was
a steady climb from there, you

603
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:51,580
know, I was around the first
times we noticed people starting

604
00:31:51,580 --> 00:31:55,600
to sing along. And then when we
started noticing people singing

605
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,040
along to songs that hadn't been
radio singles, nice, you know.

606
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,480
And you just start observing
this evidence that things are

607
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200
kind of coming together. Yes,
you know, and we're all

608
00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:09,000
it's more fun when they're
singing along.

609
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:13,800
It does. But I mean, and you
know, that's as well as anybody,

610
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,900
um, when the songs are doing
good and the albums are doing

611
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:23,960
good, and hopefully the record
label and management are feeling

612
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,500
like things are going okay. It
takes the pressure a little bit

613
00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:33,200
off of what you and I do. Yeah,
you know, it's, it's not unheard

614
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:40,220
of for various people or things
to get kind of, I don't know,

615
00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:43,960
assessed as part of the problem.
Yes. So yeah, it's great when

616
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,520
things are just going, going

617
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,560
smashing. Well, yeah, our sing
along song. Back in my days with

618
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,180
Connecticut, white bread Jim was
the every episode, the esteemed

619
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:02,100
crowd favorite, what's up your
butt? That was the Sing along.

620
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:02,640
Oh, I'll tell

621
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,180
you what's up. My butt just went
to go get to my physical today,

622
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:08,100
and I told the guy, no,

623
00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:12,600
I'm not even sure how much that
was made up. No,

624
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,120
that's not made up at all. Okay.

625
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,320
We were going half and half. He
played kind of like an early rap

626
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,040
rock band in Connecticut, okay,
yeah. They were like, I guess

627
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,240
you could, you could probably
say an early version of what

628
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,840
Limp Bizkit became, yeah, okay,
yeah. People still love that

629
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,140
stuff they do. I could never,
ever see at the time, like, I

630
00:33:33,140 --> 00:33:36,020
can't, how are we ever going to
play arenas with this kind of a

631
00:33:36,020 --> 00:33:38,780
band? Yeah? You know, the songs
that we had were absolutely

632
00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:39,620
disgusting, but

633
00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:41,800
you would have had to tour
relentlessly, and you would had

634
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,180
to get the support of a label,
because all that machinery has

635
00:33:46,180 --> 00:33:47,080
to come together to

636
00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:49,540
never would have had we were way
ahead of our time. Yeah, it

637
00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:50,920
never would have happened in 94

638
00:33:51,340 --> 00:33:54,100
Well, it's good for you to think
to yourself, hey, we were, we

639
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,500
were first on scene. That's
right, we were too early.

640
00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:59,440
And it's still people still
like, you know, some of the fans

641
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,860
still like, going back and it's
on YouTube. You can listen to

642
00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:02,700
all the songs. Yeah.

643
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,180
I mean, when we say that, when
we when we cut hick town, it was

644
00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:10,560
drop de tuning, and I'm riding
on crashes and slamming rim

645
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,000
shots. I'm like, I don't know.
Man, this sounds dangerous. I

646
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,700
don't know if people are gonna
like this. And now it's, seems

647
00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:18,120
polite,

648
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:23,719
you know, Well, Jim, I was gonna
say that genre got a little bit

649
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,059
of a shot in the leg. You know,
in the last couple years, it

650
00:34:26,059 --> 00:34:28,759
might be time for you guys to,
you know, consider a reunion.

651
00:34:28,759 --> 00:34:30,379
Reunion, yeah, it's

652
00:34:30,379 --> 00:34:34,759
actually been discussed. And my
wife is like, you dude, the kids

653
00:34:34,759 --> 00:34:39,139
can't see you up there. You
know, you were 18 at the time

654
00:34:39,139 --> 00:34:41,019
when that, when you did all
that. Wow.

655
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,220
Jimbo, 18 year old. Jimbo, Body
for Life. Jim,

656
00:34:47,739 --> 00:34:53,079
we had a bunch of songs. Fat Bo
cornhole, ukopia, gosh, can I

657
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:56,619
even say the one that's about
now, why not? Your chin is my

658
00:34:56,619 --> 00:34:59,079
ball. Rest. That was a I was
that was our ballad. That's a

659
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,140
great place for him. Yeah. Oh,
it's really nice.

660
00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:05,100
I really don't see Laney cutting
these, but

661
00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:10,380
Well, actually, that ties into
this next thing I'm seeing. Did

662
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:12,660
you play on the wiggles new
album? I

663
00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:14,940
did not. Okay, no, wait

664
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:17,820
a minute, what? There is another
Matt Nolan. He's a symbol

665
00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:18,360
designer.

666
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,020
There's, yeah, there's a
handful. There's the symbol

667
00:35:21,020 --> 00:35:24,800
designer Matt Nolan, who makes
some unbelievable sounding stuff

668
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,860
interesting to not talk to him
or played any of it in person.

669
00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:32,060
Yeah. And then there's a another
cat in town. Matt knows a

670
00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:35,120
keyboard player and a
songwriter, yes, yeah. And

671
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,220
we've, we've had to get to know
each other over the years,

672
00:35:37,220 --> 00:35:40,060
because we've ended up with each
other's checks before. Oh,

673
00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:43,360
really, no, yeah. And there was
a time where we were both

674
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,280
playing for people on on Broken
Bow, yeah. And so, you know, you

675
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,420
gotta mystery

676
00:35:49,420 --> 00:35:51,220
is hit music, right?

677
00:35:51,220 --> 00:35:55,900
The reason why I asked about the
wiggles here is Laney is

678
00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:58,240
featured on their next album.
Oh, wow.

679
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:01,800
Wiggles surprised me. No, I
didn't have anything to do with

680
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,460
them. Laney

681
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:05,100
is doing an incredible amount of
collaborations. I mean, she's

682
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:08,760
singing with everybody. He's
like, Jelly Roll, and it's a

683
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,420
hardy or, you know, I mean, just
all the cats. And then do you

684
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:14,640
guys do some of that stuff live,
where you put some of these

685
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,480
voices on track?

686
00:36:16,140 --> 00:36:21,200
We've never put voices on a
track. We do usually play at

687
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,040
least a few of those in the set.
And she just sings the whole

688
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,580
song. This past year, yeah, she
just did a medley of all the

689
00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:32,600
duets, and it was during her
solo acoustic moment, wow. So

690
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,060
yeah, she just, you know, that's
smart, rearranged the things to

691
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:35,780
make sense, just

692
00:36:35,780 --> 00:36:37,880
her. That's good time for you
guys to go pee. If you want to

693
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,740
go pee, great, great time to use
bathroom.

694
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,460
I love that. And then every once
while, I've been lucky these,

695
00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:44,860
these people would, you know,
happen to be in the same place

696
00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:47,680
at the same time and come up and
do it with us. And that's which

697
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,260
is nice, because in a short
amount of time, your resume has

698
00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:53,200
exploded, because now you have
performed with Jelly Roll. You

699
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,420
have performed with all the
cats, man, you know,

700
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,020
technically,

701
00:36:56,020 --> 00:36:59,440
yes, it feels like it's, you
know, kind of a by default, but

702
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:01,260
yeah, technically, yes, it's
great.

703
00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:04,440
Hey, man, you know, I this the
what we had a whole episode

704
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:08,760
where we kind of were me and
Travis McNabb were just totally

705
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,180
riffing on, like, when can you
claim someone and put them on

706
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:15,780
your resume and say, like, look
at is there? Is there another

707
00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:20,780
Matt Nolan that has played with
Jelly Roll? And the answer is

708
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:25,220
no, and, and you were on that
stage, and you deserve to be on

709
00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:28,100
that stage, and you provided the
serious backbeat for that guy to

710
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:31,040
do his thing. That's going on
your resume,

711
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:36,020
dude? Yeah, it depends on what
the situation is. It has before

712
00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:37,760
it doesn't always, yeah, I like
that.

713
00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:40,880
Now tell me, when did you did
you get formal training, like,

714
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,360
you know, reading, music,
rudiments, all that kind of

715
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,460
stuff. What they were in the
school band? Yeah,

716
00:37:45,460 --> 00:37:48,340
I had a brief foray with the
school band, like, you know,

717
00:37:48,340 --> 00:37:51,580
third grade or so. Played
trumpet for a couple years,

718
00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:55,420
great. And, like, Grant, like
Greg Bissonnette plays the

719
00:37:55,420 --> 00:37:55,840
trumpet,

720
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,440
does? Yeah, yeah, that, that
didn't take, you know, and I got

721
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,300
out of the organized band stuff
for a while. Got back into it in

722
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,240
high school, this time,
percussion, yes, but yeah, I was

723
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,240
playing drum set on the side
before that, yeah, and that,

724
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,240
that always held my attention.
But by high school, it was like,

725
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,640
Cool. If you want to play in the
jazz band, you got to play in

726
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,220
the other band, yeah. And that
means you need to be able to

727
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,660
read. So started working on
that.

728
00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:26,300
Does that help you with your you
ever scribble out some little

729
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:28,580
charts to help you get through
something last minute? Yeah,

730
00:38:28,580 --> 00:38:29,480
absolutely.

731
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:32,060
I wasn't much good at it, and by
the time I got done school, I

732
00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:35,840
was a decent reader. Yeah, yeah.
It still comes in very handy.

733
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:36,260
Page

734
00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:41,980
38 of the syncopation book, that
one, you know, well, I'm just

735
00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:45,880
assuming that, you know, Johnny
vodakavich at Loyola would be,

736
00:38:45,940 --> 00:38:48,880
you know, pushing you and your
reading and all that kind of

737
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,120
stuff.

738
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,100
Yeah. So the way it worked, when
I was there,

739
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,640
you usually studied with Johnny,
like, your junior and senior

740
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,780
year, and it was a guy named
Wayne Moreau. You took lessons

741
00:39:00,780 --> 00:39:05,100
with freshman sophomore year,
and he was more of the technical

742
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,640
instructor, and he would make
sure your your reading was up to

743
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,940
a certain level, yeah. And if
you held the sticks poorly, like

744
00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:15,600
I did, you'd get an earful about
that once a week. Yeah. By the

745
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:21,500
time you were with Johnny, it
was like very stylistic approach

746
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,920
related stuff. We did a lot of
listening. We did as much

747
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,120
listening as we did play to

748
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,720
the history of New Orleanian
music. Yeah, and you know, it's,

749
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,780
there's a lot of specific things
about the New Orleans style, but

750
00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:38,360
somehow, it's not super
technical. You need some

751
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,060
technique to play that, that
material, but, you know, then

752
00:39:43,060 --> 00:39:47,020
you throw it away, not like a
very, I don't know, classroom

753
00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:49,960
oriented kind of thing. You
learn by watching guys and

754
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,660
hearing guys do it. So the most
I ever got from Johnny was

755
00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:55,120
sitting right next to him while
he's playing, yeah, you know.

756
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:55,900
And

757
00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:59,380
then would you take advantage of
that, that environment, and go

758
00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:03,900
down and. To watch her and Riley
and, of course, Stanton and

759
00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:04,500
yeah,

760
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:08,520
saw her in three or four times.
Whenever he was playing with his

761
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,220
group or with somebody at snug
Harbor that was like the

762
00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:15,240
intimate jazz club in town, he
would usually start the show

763
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:19,320
with a tambourine, and he would
his band would be on stage

764
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,400
playing. He'd walk in from the
back playing tambourines. And

765
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:26,300
there was times where he would
take a solo on the pipes, you

766
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:28,940
know, on the wall, behind the
scenes, smart, slick,

767
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,760
like that. Slick, did you become
friendly with Stan

768
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:34,880
I met Stanton a handful of
times. We're not buddies, but

769
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,800
I've seen him play, oh man, I
don't know, probably 2030, times

770
00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:43,180
with now that I think about it's
been way more than that. And

771
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:47,380
I've probably seen galactic 20
times, yeah, yeah,

772
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:52,120
all the time. He like, is part
owner of tippity is, I think

773
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,760
I know I heard they, they made
sure that that place stayed

774
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,820
open, and that people learned
the history that club. And,

775
00:40:57,820 --> 00:41:01,440
yeah, yeah. They've been really
great to music in that city. I

776
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,280
love New Orleans.

777
00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:05,700
Incredible place to visit. I
don't know if I would live

778
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:07,140
there, but yeah, it's

779
00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:11,400
awfully hot and humid for a lot
of the year. Yeah and yeah.

780
00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:16,860
Weather wise, you're you pretty
much, you can count on some

781
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:20,120
hurricane, yeah, shuffling. Do
you

782
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,540
ever have the fried alligator?
Yeah? Oh, yeah. It's just like,

783
00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:26,540
tastes like chicken, yeah,
little tough can be Yeah,

784
00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:29,180
I had that for the first time in
Baton Rouge. Yeah. Now is a

785
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:30,380
baton rouge or Rouge.

786
00:41:30,860 --> 00:41:33,440
I've always heard Baton Rouge
rouge, because I've heard it

787
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:33,620
like

788
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:38,000
Bruges with a hard G bat in
Rogue rogue. But with Baton

789
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,680
Rouge, I did a lot of filming
down there for a dealership, and

790
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,320
it was always kind of nice,
because in the afternoons,

791
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,720
probably during the day, you'd
always have like, a pop up

792
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,300
thunderstorm, yeah? And then it
would clear out, you'd get that

793
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:53,200
kind of post thunderstorm sunset
during the spring, typically.

794
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,340
And I'm like, you know, I said
it's, it's kind of gloomy at

795
00:41:57,340 --> 00:42:00,480
times. I said, but your sunsets
are spectacular, yeah? And

796
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,360
they're like, oh, it's not
because of, you know, the

797
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:09,060
environment. It's because of all
the refineries, just like, you

798
00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:12,780
know, putting stuff out into the
the atmosphere. It makes the

799
00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:14,280
sunlight list look really cool.

800
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,480
That is funny, buddy. Oh my god,
yeah, I will say this. I miss

801
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,640
those cotton candy sunsets in
Los Angeles. Man, my God, every

802
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,060
night

803
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,960
we get some spectacular sunsets
here, though, you could get some

804
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,260
cotton

805
00:42:27,260 --> 00:42:30,800
candy stuff here, yeah, but it's
like, you can count on it every

806
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,520
night, craning Brontosaurus,
palm trees, and then the most

807
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,780
beautiful cotton candy sky. And
you're like, I don't want to be

808
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,280
anywhere else right now. Yeah,

809
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:43,180
yeah. We're on a hot streak
right now with LA, it's rained

810
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,160
the last three times I've been
there.

811
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,620
They may need it. Well, yeah,

812
00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:52,720
but by all accounts, it's not
common. Now.

813
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:55,780
Where were you guys playing out
there? Did you I bet you guys

814
00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:59,560
did a small little show with all
the suits at The Troubadour. Do

815
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,480
you ever play there.

816
00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:03,960
I played the Troubadour with
Maggie rose one time. Yeah, but

817
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,040
this last Laney show was at the
Greek first time there was

818
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,700
pretty cool. Man,

819
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:12,300
gorgeous. That had to be
awesome. Man, it's great. Yeah,

820
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:15,360
I saw a blondie there. That's
amazing. Yeah, it's like, it's

821
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,440
like, 10,000 people or
something. It might be less.

822
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,740
It's comp some. It's a smaller
Hollywood Bowl,

823
00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:25,520
exactly, yeah, yeah. So the bowl
is has become the bucket list

824
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,960
out there this year, our la
shows at the forum. Ah, which is

825
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,300
really cool. The history there.
It's, I might as well be called

826
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:34,160
the house that Fleetwood Mac
built.

827
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:39,980
Yes, you know, we were all set
there to play there the weekend

828
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:46,360
before, huh? Now the weekend
after the Vegas stuff. So we

829
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,880
never did it, but maybe we'll do
it at some point.

830
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,320
You know Jason, I'm sure he can,
kind of, if he wants, whenever

831
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,240
he wants to, know, they'll make
they'll make time, they'll

832
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:58,840
cancel the game, but they don't
even play there anymore. What am

833
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,260
I saying? What's that the Lakers
don't play there. Oh, now

834
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:02,460
where do the Lakers play? Buddy?

835
00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:09,420
Get on the Google later.
Crypto.com, arena, right? Yes.

836
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:11,160
Is it Staples Center? Unless,

837
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,220
yeah, yeah, formerly state.
Crypto.com,

838
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,480
arena,

839
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,640
not catchy.

840
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:22,880
Crypto.com, I use them. That's
not into crypto at all. You guys

841
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,540
get into

842
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:27,620
that? Not a ton, no, just a
little bit about it, yeah, you

843
00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:31,700
know. But I've never tried to
buy or sell an NFT.

844
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,120
I've never done that. I've
bought and sold crypto. Yeah,

845
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,980
no, yeah. I've got, I got into
it back when in 2018 I think,

846
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,580
yeah. And it was like just
jumping through hoops just to

847
00:44:42,580 --> 00:44:46,420
get you had to go through like,
three or four different levels

848
00:44:46,420 --> 00:44:50,140
just to make a purchase, right?
Yeah, we're still early, guys,

849
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,640
right? Well, I can't afford it.
Bitcoins on sale, I know,

850
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,460
but I don't know if I mean How
much for one whole Bitcoin right

851
00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:58,660
now, 80 grand.

852
00:44:58,720 --> 00:44:59,740
80 Some, yeah, 80

853
00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:05,580
some. Something right now, but
you can buy a Satoshi. I'm

854
00:45:05,580 --> 00:45:10,200
looking it up. So a Satoshi is
the are like the nickels, dimes,

855
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,740
quarters of $1 the subdivision.
So they're called Satoshi

856
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,480
subdivisions, subdivisions, and
there's 100 million Satoshis in

857
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,160
each Bitcoin. So you can buy a
bunch of Satoshi stack those

858
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,600
sets, as they say, yeah, yeah.
So you could buy a portion of a

859
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,260
Bitcoin and eventually aspire to
be a whole coiner at some point,

860
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:33,140
because there's only 21 million
of them, right? So,

861
00:45:33,260 --> 00:45:35,840
ah, let me pay my taxes first
and then see what happens. Hey,

862
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,140
hold out. You might not have to.
I know. Maybe there won't be an

863
00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:43,120
IRS. That'd be great, but I do
want my Social Security.

864
00:45:45,460 --> 00:45:47,980
Okay, I do. I mean, don't you?
No

865
00:45:49,420 --> 00:45:51,160
Man, No, I want it. I

866
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,900
hope you get it too, because
we're all you know,

867
00:45:53,740 --> 00:45:56,260
because you, I think you either
have to pick your Social

868
00:45:56,260 --> 00:46:00,160
Security, or if you have an
income that exceeds it, you

869
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,640
can't have both. You got to pick
one or the other, from what I

870
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,480
understand. So I'd rather exceed
my monthly income. Well, I think

871
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,760
we all went, but, yeah, yeah.
But as, like, it's not going to

872
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,040
amount to much by the time you
get it, but it's like, hey, as,

873
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,340
like, a Hail Mary, I would love
to have it as an option. Yeah,

874
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,140
you know. So tell us about this
new record. Bro, you are on the

875
00:46:19,140 --> 00:46:21,860
new record because I was
listening to all the new tracks.

876
00:46:21,860 --> 00:46:24,740
I'm like, everything is so tight
and dry, and it's just a whole

877
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:27,860
different approach. I wonder who
played on this. And I was like,

878
00:46:27,860 --> 00:46:32,000
going through my idea of like,
because I know how every session

879
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,400
drummer in Nashville kind of
approach this thing and and

880
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,780
sounds. And

881
00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:39,140
it's you, man, congrats. Thank
you very much, man, and

882
00:46:39,380 --> 00:46:41,480
be cool to yourself on the
radio, right?

883
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,240
Yeah, that was a trip. It was a
trip, I have to first say and

884
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,220
give a shout out to Fred eltrin.
We love friends, and a lot of

885
00:46:51,220 --> 00:46:55,000
what you're hearing may or
probably is Fred playing yeah

886
00:46:55,660 --> 00:46:59,800
and yeah, because of the two
drummers thing, my

887
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,660
responsibilities song to song
kind of changed around. And so

888
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,460
on one tune, it could have been
a very Augs perk kind of role

889
00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:12,720
for me. Maybe I was playing a
kit where we ran it through

890
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,600
effects and so it was a dry kit,
wet effects kit, yeah, thing.

891
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,100
And then there's five or five or
so songs on the album where it's

892
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:26,540
two of us playing drum set wide
open same time. There are five

893
00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:30,140
specific songs on the album
where our kits were right next

894
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:33,860
to each other, not baffled, so
basically bleeding into each

895
00:47:33,860 --> 00:47:37,220
other's mics, sharing rooms, all
that kind of thing. So yeah, it

896
00:47:37,220 --> 00:47:38,180
was great. That is

897
00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:41,740
so fun. And and the snare drum
choices. I mean, some of them,

898
00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:44,920
like, and then some of them were
like, like, it was, they're

899
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,880
cranked up. It had like, this
nice overtone, and then sounds

900
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,060
like one of them was maybe,
like, like, you know, your

901
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:54,580
little jungle snare that you
have, like, super tight with

902
00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:56,620
like, a jingly type thing on it.
Yep, I

903
00:47:56,620 --> 00:48:00,120
can think of exactly the one
you're talking about. Yeah, the

904
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,200
precedent they've kind of said
is more organic kind of drum

905
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,180
sounds, yes. So older, bigger
kits with some muffling Tubby

906
00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:13,560
kind of, you know, kicking toms,
yeah, and then yeah, like a fat,

907
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,720
but, like, maybe slightly
dampened snare thing, yeah. So

908
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:19,320
yeah. Jay

909
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,840
Joyce. Jay Joyce, so

910
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,220
that, so you do it at his place,
yep. And, and you enjoyed the

911
00:48:25,220 --> 00:48:27,800
process. It was like it wasn't
one of these looking at your

912
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,540
clock, wow. Kind of a process.

913
00:48:29,660 --> 00:48:33,140
Absolutely not. I mean, first
off, the the material that she

914
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:35,540
kept bringing in, because we
didn't, we didn't have these

915
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:38,420
tunes to live with for very far
in advance, they, they sent us

916
00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:41,140
some stuff. Yeah, you know, a
couple days before that's

917
00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:43,900
good, yeah? Because then you
don't overthink it exactly,

918
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:47,680
you know, you don't want to come
in with a too much of a road

919
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,160
map, because then it becomes
this unlearning challenge when

920
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,640
somebody wants to change this
thing, yeah? So yeah, it's

921
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,640
helpful to be slightly familiar
with the tune, but not so much

922
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,420
to where you've already made
decisions that are going to get

923
00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:01,500
overruled, yeah,

924
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,040
but, yeah, man, no. Jay's
brilliant.

925
00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:10,200
Laney's amazing in the studio.
She's one of those people who

926
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,600
really, really enjoys being
there.

927
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,740
And she just, you know, she's
like,

928
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:21,620
creatively, totally in the zone.
You know, she's just

929
00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:27,620
so nice and outgoing and
enthusiastic and sincere. She

930
00:49:27,620 --> 00:49:30,980
sings great. And she's, you
know, got the whole image thing.

931
00:49:30,980 --> 00:49:33,800
She just doubled down on that
thing with the bell bottoms and

932
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,820
all that. It's like, as she's
tender age of 32 right? I mean,

933
00:49:37,820 --> 00:49:39,020
it's pretty incredible.

934
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,160
Yeah, it's really good. But so,
yeah, to answer your question,

935
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,620
man, it's it was definitely not
boring time there. Yeah, and you

936
00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:50,860
know, the pressure's on. Not
everybody has their their road

937
00:49:50,860 --> 00:49:55,720
guys in there. So we, we
definitely understood what we

938
00:49:55,720 --> 00:50:00,240
had to do to to be invited to
come back to the Father. Going

939
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:04,140
day, yeah, and it happened,
yeah, well, next day. But you

940
00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:07,140
get this because you've been
doing this for quite a long time

941
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:08,940
with the band you to work with.
Yeah, it's

942
00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:13,020
very nice to do to wear both the
hats, because then there becomes

943
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,140
a a pride and an ownership that
it goes deeper. Because yes,

944
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:21,200
you're not just regurgitating
Exactly.

945
00:50:21,260 --> 00:50:25,520
It would be difficult to find
somebody who cared more about

946
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,180
Jason's record yes than you do
Yeah, and you're gonna play in

947
00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:31,580
such a way that stems from that,
you know, but at the

948
00:50:31,580 --> 00:50:35,000
same time and, you know, and
this musical economy and the

949
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,660
idea of having a steady job in
the music business, you know, if

950
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:41,860
your only job is to regurgitate
at a high level,

951
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:46,840
still pretty good. Oh, man,
pretty good job. Yeah, no issues

952
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:51,100
there, yeah, you know, yeah,
man, it's, well, that's cool,

953
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:51,880
and your parents

954
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,700
got to be super proud, because
they can go crank up the radio.

955
00:50:54,820 --> 00:50:58,960
That's my son, I guess so. It's
my son on the drums. That's my

956
00:50:59,020 --> 00:51:02,280
son's my two sons. Yeah,

957
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,360
my mom tells me when she sees
anyone CMT, or when she hears us

958
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,980
on the radio, things like that.
Yeah,

959
00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:10,920
I will, my mom will call me.
She's like, I heard your

960
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,160
tambourine on the latest trace
Atkins song you were telling me

961
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,940
about. It's very loud in the
mix, nice. It's like, you know,

962
00:51:17,940 --> 00:51:20,540
it's like, I'm playing a
tambourine on beat four. And my

963
00:51:20,540 --> 00:51:21,620
mom is proud of me. So

964
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,560
now I got to bring up, you know,
the obvious. Recently, we had

965
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,700
the Grammys, yes, yes, yeah.
And, you know, Beyonce was in

966
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:32,840
the category that Laney was in,
yeah, a lot of people. There

967
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,440
were mixed reviews and
reactions. Let's say on, you

968
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,920
know, what had happened in terms
of a little bit of controversy?

969
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,880
I guess you could say, Sure,
what was her take on that? I

970
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,880
know we talked about it before
the show, but, you know, can you

971
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,800
speak to that at all? Yeah. So

972
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,840
I saw her about a week before we
didn't perform, so that those of

973
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,160
us in the backing band, we
didn't go well, yeah? And she

974
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,360
told me she's like, you know,
seems like Beyonce is gonna win.

975
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,860
And I was like, Yeah, you know,
I mean, this is unbelievable

976
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:07,800
category. This year. It was
Beyonce, Post Malone, Casey

977
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,660
Musgraves, Chris Stapleton and
Laney. It's insane, yeah. So if

978
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:17,580
I'm not mistaken, well, let me
just say things I'm I can feel,

979
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:20,840
uh sure about, yeah, all those
people deserve Grammys, and most

980
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,840
of them have already won them,
Laney included. So the company

981
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,440
in that category was like, kind
of crazy, yeah. And so yeah, she

982
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,840
was like, I wouldn't get your
hopes up. I'm pretty sure

983
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,660
Beyonce is going to win this.
And she felt really good about

984
00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:38,600
that. Yeah, you know, she's so
supportive of this movement

985
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,520
that's been drawing new
listeners to country music,

986
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,680
yeah? And diversity and women in
country music, yeah, you know,

987
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,720
she's a really, really strong
supporter of, you know, shaking

988
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:55,900
things up, yeah? And it it
reaching people that it didn't

989
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:58,420
used to, yeah, you know. So

990
00:52:58,660 --> 00:53:03,840
this is the music of the people.
Modern country music is the new

991
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:05,520
rock and roll.

992
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,660
Well, and like, we half absorbed
rock, you know, and pop got the

993
00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:10,260
other half

994
00:53:10,260 --> 00:53:18,900
Yes, you know, yeah, because, I
mean, modern rock is kind of in

995
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:21,860
the shitter. I mean, we are.
It's a rough period for modern

996
00:53:21,860 --> 00:53:25,520
rock. I listen to the station,
you know, the buzz or whatever,

997
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,040
and I'm trying to keep up with
the stuff, and I can't tell the

998
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,860
bands apart. And it's just, it's
just rough. I mean, there's,

999
00:53:30,860 --> 00:53:34,280
where's the Stone Temple Pilots
and the, you know, the sound

1000
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,600
gardens, and it's, it's just a
it's, it's in a slump, and we

1001
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,080
have taken all the fans, which
is a good thing. It

1002
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,100
just evolved, yeah, you know, I
mean, again, getting back to the

1003
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:49,180
Beyonce thing, I could see what
you're saying. And I love the

1004
00:53:49,180 --> 00:53:52,720
fact that she was like, you
know, from afar, she was happy

1005
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:56,680
for but it's so funny to watch
the reactions when they called

1006
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,920
out her name. Even she looked
shocked, like, really, I'm

1007
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,040
getting one for, for what I did
in country and not my main

1008
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,700
genre, okay, yeah, because that
was her first time, she

1009
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:10,380
ends up with both of them,
right, right?

1010
00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:12,720
Yeah, big win. She's got

1011
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:17,760
to, Yep, yeah, man, crazy. A lot
of statues. I wonder where these

1012
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,560
people put these statues, you
know? I mean,

1013
00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:22,700
on a shelf, yeah, a shelf like
you see behind us, that's right

1014
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:23,120
there. That's

1015
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,240
right, yeah. I think it usually
happens in the order of trophy

1016
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:29,240
and then shelf, right? You know?
I think you end up putting a

1017
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,940
shelf. The best place for that
trophy to go. I don't think you

1018
00:54:31,940 --> 00:54:34,220
put it on a shelf that was
already there. It's like where

1019
00:54:34,220 --> 00:54:36,440
Michael Scott would put his
Dundies, right?

1020
00:54:38,540 --> 00:54:40,840
I used to have a whole shelf
full of my awards. I have no

1021
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,480
idea where my awards are now, at
this point, I think they're in a

1022
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,440
box in my closet.

1023
00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:49,600
Yeah, you know, I've been trying
to downsize and do the Feng Shui

1024
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,140
and just be a little bit more
minimalist, minimalist,

1025
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,980
minimalist. Remember when we
interviewed Peter Stormare, the

1026
00:54:56,980 --> 00:55:02,340
actor and musician he played in
a. And in Constantine, you know,

1027
00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:06,000
with key now, Reeves, he played
Satan, and he was the guy. He

1028
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,840
came down. He was like, covered
in mud and and it was all in

1029
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,260
white. He was all in white,
which was not the obvious

1030
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:15,780
choice, no, but he's the perfect
pick for that. He was the

1031
00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:19,860
perfect pick. But he goes, he
goes, I have no art on my walls.

1032
00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:23,300
I have very minimal furniture,
eye heels. I don't even have a

1033
00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:27,320
junk drawer, so if he doesn't,
but that's so hard to do. What

1034
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:29,720
happens when you're looking for
a stapler, when you're looking

1035
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,260
for a scissors, when you're
looking for, you know, some

1036
00:55:33,260 --> 00:55:37,400
pens, you gotta have some of
this stuff.

1037
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,660
Yeah, I don't think I could go
without a junk drawer. A catch

1038
00:55:40,660 --> 00:55:43,960
all. It's a catch all. I would
be pretty, pretty impressed

1039
00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:48,880
with, with Fallon and I if we
could do without that. Yeah,

1040
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,440
man, I don't know where we go.

1041
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,380
Speaking of actors at the time
of this recording, how about

1042
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,420
Gene Hackman? I saw

1043
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,360
that on the way here. They said
it was a carbon

1044
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,860
monoxide, like he may have been
from a carbon monoxide. Was it

1045
00:56:01,860 --> 00:56:05,520
really because his wife and his
dog went, they passed as well,

1046
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,860
well? Because that would have to
be, that makes sense. It does

1047
00:56:07,860 --> 00:56:11,280
make sense. You know, I have the
carbon monoxide, but he was 95

1048
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,340
years old. They had a great run,
man, he probably would have kept

1049
00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:14,940
killing. I

1050
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:18,540
know you're taken out by car
with CO two.

1051
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,460
You got to have the, the the
alarms in your house,

1052
00:56:22,820 --> 00:56:25,520
we have them. Yeah, yeah, you
that's terrible. They got them.

1053
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,780
Yeah, yeah. I just

1054
00:56:26,780 --> 00:56:29,780
put the alarms in the house, the
smoke alarms, where you don't

1055
00:56:29,780 --> 00:56:32,240
have to change the batteries for
10 years. They don't need

1056
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:35,120
anything. They're not going to
chirp for a decade. But when

1057
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,220
that 10 years comes, the years,
it's going to be like that

1058
00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:39,980
episode with Phoebe, where she's
trying to stop the chirping fire

1059
00:56:39,980 --> 00:56:42,820
alarm and she can't figure out
how to do it. Are they nickel

1060
00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:46,060
batteries or lithium? I don't
know. I just had the handyman do

1061
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:48,460
it. They're energized. Chris
Swanson, if anybody's looking

1062
00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:51,460
for an amazing do anything handy
man. Chris Swanson, now if

1063
00:56:51,460 --> 00:56:53,800
you're looking for a garage
door, or if you're looking for

1064
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,720
LED lighting, then you have to
call Jim McCarthy.

1065
00:56:55,780 --> 00:56:58,360
That's right. That's right. But
are they? Are they ever ready

1066
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,860
batteries or Duracell? I don't

1067
00:57:01,060 --> 00:57:03,660
know, the finest that money can
buy. This is the portion

1068
00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:07,320
of the show where I try to make
it as boring as possible.

1069
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,100
Oh, my God, you it

1070
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,560
is tanking

1071
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,560
so well, I should say too, like,
if I'm the guest on here, like,

1072
00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:21,260
that's not a great sign of life
for this. Well, it was great

1073
00:57:21,260 --> 00:57:24,860
while it lasted. No, the the
good interviews you guys had,

1074
00:57:24,860 --> 00:57:27,140
we're all very grateful for.
We're supposed

1075
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,140
it was so good. We have to, we
have to kind of balance it out

1076
00:57:30,140 --> 00:57:31,160
now, and that's my job.

1077
00:57:31,220 --> 00:57:32,120
Okay, you know?

1078
00:57:32,420 --> 00:57:36,260
Well, um, what was like? Oh, I
was, I have still not gotten

1079
00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:40,220
around to watching any of it's
all overwhelming. Yellowstone.

1080
00:57:40,220 --> 00:57:42,880
And then the 1533 or 1890

1081
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:45,460
1883 1923

1082
00:57:46,060 --> 00:57:49,540
so she was acting on that show,
and used to play drums too,

1083
00:57:49,540 --> 00:57:51,940
right? Yeah, on several
episodes. Now, did you get your

1084
00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:53,560
were you able to get your sad
card as an

1085
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,540
actor? I was, well, they, they
offered, we're in like this. In

1086
00:57:58,540 --> 00:57:59,980
between, you could,

1087
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,940
you could have been Taft heart
lead. That's the process where

1088
00:58:02,940 --> 00:58:06,240
the producers will say, hey,
this kid, let's get him a SAG

1089
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,640
card, and they just push you
through the push the paperwork

1090
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:09,120
through.

1091
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,840
Okay, I'm not exactly sure,
yeah, but yeah. But

1092
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,320
if you, if there were willing to
do that, and are still willing

1093
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,900
to do it, you should get that
card. Yeah? Because then when

1094
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:22,640
you're in there, I was just a
good thing to to maintain,

1095
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,240
because you will be paid in a
certain way as a SAG member. Are

1096
00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:28,820
you remember the union AFM

1097
00:58:29,180 --> 00:58:33,200
also a kind of in progress
thing, but soon to be hard? Yes,

1098
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:33,620
you might as

1099
00:58:33,620 --> 00:58:37,280
well just do that, because the
thing about Tennessee, which

1100
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,480
minimizes the power of the Union
just a little bit, is the fact

1101
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:45,160
that we're in a right to work
state. Yeah. So I me, I think me

1102
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,700
and Tully are the only union
members in our band, but then we

1103
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:54,280
say we have to go do the Today
show. It's a union thing. You

1104
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,240
get paid through the Union. But
it doesn't mean that Tully and I

1105
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,140
are the only ones that get
everybody gets checked. Yeah,

1106
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,740
because Tennessee is a right to
work state, but then Tully and I

1107
00:59:04,740 --> 00:59:08,100
have to pay work dues. No one
else does

1108
00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:12,300
okay. I thought they still had
to pay their, their non member

1109
00:59:12,300 --> 00:59:16,080
dues. But you guys that are
members, are the only ones. We

1110
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,320
have to pay our memberships, and
we have to pay our, yeah, our

1111
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:24,500
work dues, so we end up coming
out, but then if we die, we will

1112
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:28,220
have a small funeral benefit
fund, yeah,

1113
00:59:28,220 --> 00:59:32,120
which I've been told is rock
solid again for

1114
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,820
a while, and then we have a
pension, which is,

1115
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,620
that's what I was talking about.
Yeah, the pension is that's hard

1116
00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:41,980
to get that dollar amount up.
Let me tell you some of the old

1117
00:59:41,980 --> 00:59:45,400
school guys like Eddie bears,
Lonnie Wilson, Chad Cromwell,

1118
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,920
Greg Morrow, Paul, I'm these
guys. They're gonna have an

1119
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,180
insane because they were in the
heyday of the velvet rope music

1120
00:59:52,180 --> 00:59:56,020
business, right? Guys like you
and I were like, kicking and

1121
00:59:56,020 --> 00:59:59,380
clawing and scratching and, you
know, the the phone rings

1122
00:59:59,380 --> 01:00:02,820
session. I. I'll be there. It's
harder to add up, because it's

1123
01:00:02,820 --> 01:00:06,180
not twice a day every day,
right? But those guys had twice

1124
01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:08,400
a day every day. God bless them.
Yeah,

1125
01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:12,840
no, it's unbelievable, yeah. And
it's a shame that there's not as

1126
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,600
much of the recording, and
therefore the, you know, the

1127
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,120
union, yeah, work that's around.
But

1128
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:22,340
now, do you do people send you
tracks? Yeah? Yeah. It's not

1129
01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:26,600
primarily how like it. For
example, this last break we've

1130
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,820
been on, I've been mostly in the
studio, yeah, whichever studio

1131
01:00:31,820 --> 01:00:34,520
that happens to be, but yeah,
people do send me stuff, and

1132
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:35,660
it's good. We're all set to

1133
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,060
now, don't under charge. Make
sure you charge a good rate,

1134
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,200
because you're worth it, right?
Right? Because there's guys out

1135
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,720
there that are under charging.
And it's, yeah, it's a race to

1136
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,920
the bottom. Man,

1137
01:00:45,220 --> 01:00:48,760
yeah. Pretty soon it's, I'll
give you 20 bucks so I can put

1138
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,360
my name once.

1139
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,840
No, I'm telling you you are
Lainey Wilson's drummer. You

1140
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,040
deserve to your whatever rate it
is. You deserve it. Thank you,

1141
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,260
man, look at that. Say right,
Jim, that's right. We're gonna

1142
01:00:59,260 --> 01:01:00,240
get these pay days.

1143
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:06,060
Okay, so, Hey, Jim, why don't we
do the Is it time for the Fast

1144
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:06,360
Five?

1145
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,100
Yeah, but they're no longer
fast. They are never fast,

1146
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:14,460
right? We can do we can switch
things up on the fly and make it

1147
01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:15,480
the funny five. Well,

1148
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,880
it's always funny.

1149
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:21,560
It is it is funny. I have a
bunch of funny questions in

1150
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,380
front of me. Okay, then, then,
why don't you try shaking it up?

1151
01:01:24,380 --> 01:01:25,580
Let me shake it up. Shake it up,

1152
01:01:25,580 --> 01:01:29,180
buddy. All right, we got the
funny five is cereal soup. Why

1153
01:01:29,180 --> 01:01:33,140
or why not? Ooh,

1154
01:01:37,220 --> 01:01:40,840
I don't know. I tend to think,
no, I'm struggling for to come

1155
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,480
up with a reason to specifically
back that up. I know there are

1156
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:50,680
cold soups, I guess, yeah, it's
not so much of a vegetable thing

1157
01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:53,260
cereal, and that's why it's kind

1158
01:01:53,260 --> 01:01:55,720
of it's a dessert, you know?
It's a breakfast. I don't think

1159
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,140
you can have

1160
01:01:56,140 --> 01:01:59,140
a soup, as if you leave it out
long enough it becomes soupy. It

1161
01:01:59,140 --> 01:02:01,740
does disgusting. Well, because
all everything dissolves in it

1162
01:02:01,740 --> 01:02:04,440
gross. How many? How many holes
does a straw have?

1163
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,000
Oh, crazy, right?

1164
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,260
Yeah, that one really depends.
Makes your brain, doesn't it?

1165
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:13,740
That's like

1166
01:02:13,740 --> 01:02:16,560
those riddles that people you
know post memes of that go

1167
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,020
viral, and you're like, I don't
know. I need a little more. What

1168
01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:19,200
do

1169
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:27,380
you mean? There's two holes. Is
there the two holes? Or

1170
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,100
is there one long hole? Is a hot
dog, a sandwich?

1171
01:02:35,060 --> 01:02:36,620
No, no, no.

1172
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,620
Those are two different things
you could be in the mood for

1173
01:02:41,620 --> 01:02:42,100
anytime.

1174
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:46,960
What's the weirdest smell you've
ever smelled?

1175
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,660
He's on a tour bus all the time.
There's a lot of smell.

1176
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,600
The loading dock can be a little
crazy. Yeah,

1177
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,860
a wharf. We we blew up a fuse
one time. We tried to replace a

1178
01:03:01,860 --> 01:03:07,140
fuse and put an incorrect one in
a PA head at my parents house,

1179
01:03:07,140 --> 01:03:09,840
and we were rehearsed in the
garage. Oh, and some, some of

1180
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,500
those electrical smells can be
kind of wild. Oh, yeah,

1181
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,320
I don't know how many, how many
questions did I ask? Three,

1182
01:03:16,380 --> 01:03:22,220
three. What's the funniest joke?
You know, by heart? Oh, God.

1183
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,540
I don't know if I know any funny
jokes by heart. I'm

1184
01:03:26,540 --> 01:03:30,140
not to traditional setup,
deliver, memorize this guy.

1185
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,780
Yeah, I just try to be
situationally funny.

1186
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:39,920
Yeah, I you know, I guess I try
to get satire, sarcasm, that

1187
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,700
kind of thing. But I'm a
terrible joke teller. Tommy from

1188
01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:46,120
our band has he could go rapid
fire right now, Tommy, he's got

1189
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,540
a town he'd crush it. Oh yeah, I
got nothing.

1190
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:50,800
Let's see

1191
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,720
toilet paper over or under, over
has to be over. Yeah,

1192
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,300
yeah. And my fiance is the
opposite. So you can, you can

1193
01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:08,340
tell who changed it. We switch
it back and forth. Yeah, it's

1194
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,220
uh, over. You pull it down
exactly.

1195
01:04:11,460 --> 01:04:13,860
But sometimes, what other way
would you do that? Yeah,

1196
01:04:14,220 --> 01:04:16,680
sometimes you have to do the
mullet with it on

1197
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,080
the back. I thought you were
talking about the wiping pattern

1198
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,440
over. Jeez. That would be,

1199
01:04:21,740 --> 01:04:22,160
how do you

1200
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,580
wipe? I hope the listeners
understand that I understood the

1201
01:04:25,580 --> 01:04:26,600
question, because

1202
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,700
it's amazing. Yeah, Jim's Jim
treated himself to a bidet. Ah,

1203
01:04:32,780 --> 01:04:36,140
I don't know how I got this far
in life without knowing about

1204
01:04:36,140 --> 01:04:38,780
that technology, that it's
wonderful,

1205
01:04:38,780 --> 01:04:41,560
but he's using cold water. I
would use hot water.

1206
01:04:42,940 --> 01:04:46,960
I don't think you want to use
hot water in that. Yeah, warm,

1207
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,860
warm, cold's fine, though, okay.
It saves so much toilet paper.

1208
01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:51,820
Wow, I

1209
01:04:51,820 --> 01:04:56,680
can't believe we're going here.
Favorite color are you just

1210
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,640
reverting back? We're

1211
01:04:58,780 --> 01:05:00,720
gonna try really fast. You. Was
gonna unpack

1212
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,920
the rest of that in the future.

1213
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:06,480
Let's say yellow. I got a yellow
drum set on the road right now.

1214
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:06,660
Yeah,

1215
01:05:06,660 --> 01:05:10,620
yellow. Yeah, nice. Okay, fast
taxi. Yellow. Drink. My favorite

1216
01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:15,180
drink. Favorite drink, Topo
Chico. Oh, nice coffee drink,

1217
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,160
meat. So many cups. Favorite
food or dish,

1218
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,200
really anything with noodles,
I'm there. Oh, yeah, like,

1219
01:05:25,340 --> 01:05:28,640
Italian food, Japanese food. And
then,

1220
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,160
what's the, what's the stuff
where they break the quail egg,

1221
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,640
and then, and then there's the
noodles. And it's a, it's a hot

1222
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,540
soup,

1223
01:05:36,380 --> 01:05:39,560
man, I'm not specifically ramen,
ramen. Oh, okay, I've never had

1224
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,320
ramen with a quail egg. I love
ramen,

1225
01:05:41,380 --> 01:05:44,800
yeah. Well, you know, the egg
breaks and the yolk kind of gets

1226
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,880
put the egg in it, yeah, oh
yeah. Favorite song of the

1227
01:05:48,940 --> 01:05:53,080
moment, or all time. One

1228
01:05:55,780 --> 01:05:59,800
that comes to mind is give me
some loving by Spencer Davis

1229
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,100
Group.

1230
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:03,420
Oh yeah, I love that stuff. Oh

1231
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,080
yeah, all the sounds on that
recording work together in like,

1232
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,160
the best way. Steve Winwood
singing, he's like, 18 on that

1233
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,820
track, he might not even be 18.
Wow. He wrote it, sang it, and

1234
01:06:14,820 --> 01:06:16,140
played organ. He's killing

1235
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,480
and I believe he might have a
place here. Steve Winwood,

1236
01:06:18,540 --> 01:06:22,580
is that right? Yeah. I think I
maybe have heard about

1237
01:06:22,580 --> 01:06:24,200
either that or his merch company
is here.

1238
01:06:25,820 --> 01:06:28,160
What either lives here or his T
shirts or

1239
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,180
warehouse, bound to be true,
okay, a favorite movie

1240
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,740
of all time, or of the moment

1241
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:41,140
of all time. We're tied between
All the President's Men and

1242
01:06:41,140 --> 01:06:44,800
Moneyball, I will never, I will
never turn either those movies

1243
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,920
off from scrolling through
channels in a hotel. One of

1244
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:48,700
those is on all his

1245
01:06:48,700 --> 01:06:51,520
presence men. Wasn't that Dustin
Hoffman, yeah. Dustin

1246
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,020
Hoffman and Robert

1247
01:06:53,020 --> 01:06:56,200
Redford and Moneyball came up
recently. Didn't

1248
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:01,080
it? As somebody else mentioned
Moneyball? Yeah. Recently, yeah,

1249
01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:01,800
yeah.

1250
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,960
Great movie. I'm big baseball
fan. And what happens in that

1251
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,280
movie, the facts that it's based
on, yeah, and it's crazy how

1252
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,500
that is. Billy Bean basically
taken over. The way baseball

1253
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:17,880
managing happens now,

1254
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,480
yeah, yeah. So are you the guy
that memorizes all the stats and

1255
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:21,500
all that stuff. No,

1256
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,740
not so much. I try to keep
current with our record and

1257
01:07:24,740 --> 01:07:26,600
who's who's in first and all

1258
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,980
that, and then Pro or college
Pro. Okay, because

1259
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,740
I love watching college
baseball, but college sports in

1260
01:07:33,740 --> 01:07:36,380
general, there's so many teams
to keep track of. It can be kind

1261
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:36,560
of

1262
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,020
like Aldean is like college all
the way it's like college

1263
01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:42,340
football, college baseball.
Well, he also likes the Braves

1264
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,600
and, well,

1265
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,460
he's a big Georgia fan. Yeah,
right,

1266
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,480
see from Maryland. Maryland
basketball was huge. We followed

1267
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,580
that really close, and we still
do. Yeah,

1268
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:55,600
no. Now, who's your who's the
baseball team that you like? Pro

1269
01:07:55,660 --> 01:07:56,380
Washington

1270
01:07:56,380 --> 01:07:59,440
Nationals, and they weren't
there when I was a kid, we just

1271
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,700
had the Orioles, and we had the
Orioles while Cal Ripken played

1272
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:06,480
for him, so that was great. But
then, other than that, we always

1273
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,600
rooted for DC teams, kind of
over Baltimore teams, not that

1274
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,260
there was a animosity, but once
the NATs came back, and I

1275
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:15,720
believe, oh four, yeah,

1276
01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:18,780
you know who I've got back into
it I have a call with tomorrow.

1277
01:08:18,780 --> 01:08:20,760
Is Brett Saberhagen, hmm,

1278
01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:24,560
that name sounds familiar. It's
a Moneyball thing, right?

1279
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,580
No, he was a World Series
pitcher, a World Series winning

1280
01:08:28,580 --> 01:08:29,480
pitcher from 1985

1281
01:08:30,199 --> 01:08:32,539
but Tully is in charge of his

1282
01:08:33,740 --> 01:08:37,580
He's on the board 501, okay,
save his wings. You see me

1283
01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:39,980
wearing the hat every now and
then. Yeah, yeah. Are you

1284
01:08:39,980 --> 01:08:43,660
interviewing him. They might be
doing a podcast. Ah, look at

1285
01:08:43,660 --> 01:08:46,960
that. I got to meet them back in
October. Wonderful people. Yeah,

1286
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:47,800
I

1287
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:48,880
met him at

1288
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,759
at someone's wedding, yeah,
yeah. He,

1289
01:08:54,939 --> 01:08:58,719
he's like, you go to meet that
guy. And the first time we saw

1290
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:02,399
him, he's got, like, really
piercing, steely blue eyes. And

1291
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,519
then you see him like in his
element, which is this point is

1292
01:09:05,819 --> 01:09:09,299
in that, you know, the wine
country of California. So he's

1293
01:09:09,299 --> 01:09:12,059
all into, you know, ranches and
horses and stuff like that. He

1294
01:09:12,059 --> 01:09:15,059
dons a cowboy hat, man. He looks
like the real freaking deal.

1295
01:09:15,599 --> 01:09:17,279
It's crazy. Wow. I

1296
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,260
can't picture me on a horse
roping and ride and us like, I'm

1297
01:09:21,260 --> 01:09:24,080
from Connecticut, you're from,
you know, yeah, that part of the

1298
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:24,620
countries.

1299
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,800
I've been instructed to wear a
hat plenty of times, but I have

1300
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,180
never ridden a horse in my life.
You

1301
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,580
mean, as far as, like, in a
video, put on the cowboy hat,

1302
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,820
yeah, yeah, for whatever
occasion, yeah. But you guys,

1303
01:09:34,820 --> 01:09:35,120
also, a

1304
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,940
lot of you guys, wear that,
those that those hipster hats,

1305
01:09:37,940 --> 01:09:39,140
those Silver Lake hats,

1306
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:40,400
guilty as George, I

1307
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,259
pulled up that picture of you.
It's a side profile, and you got

1308
01:09:44,259 --> 01:09:47,259
the hat on. No, right? Yeah,
like a Zorro had almost

1309
01:09:47,259 --> 01:09:50,799
I can't pull it off. I can't you
guys crush it. I cannot do that.

1310
01:09:50,859 --> 01:09:51,219
Thank

1311
01:09:51,219 --> 01:09:55,239
you. I feel kind of like a fraud
if I'm wearing a proper cowboy

1312
01:09:55,239 --> 01:09:58,599
hat. Yes, you know, because,
yeah, that's like, it would

1313
01:09:58,599 --> 01:10:01,199
purely be a fashion thing. Yeah,
you know, I didn't grow up with

1314
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:05,039
rodeo. I did not grow up on a
farm. I have respect for those

1315
01:10:05,039 --> 01:10:06,179
that did. Yeah, it was

1316
01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:09,780
the Indiana Jones had the
fedora. Yeah, bring that back.

1317
01:10:09,780 --> 01:10:12,300
You could probably pull that
off. There's

1318
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:15,360
definitely guys doing it. Yeah?
His was, like, leather, right,

1319
01:10:15,780 --> 01:10:16,380
something like

1320
01:10:16,380 --> 01:10:20,300
that. It was iconic. Yeah, it
was, but it was, I've been doing

1321
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:23,780
the Scally, wearing the Scally
lately? Dead news boys. Oh,

1322
01:10:23,780 --> 01:10:28,040
okay, yeah, I'll either it's my
third job of get your papers.

1323
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,240
Yeah, selling newspapers. Read
all about it. Yeah. I tried

1324
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:36,500
that very briefly, because
little George from little feet

1325
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:39,620
used to wear them sometimes. And
I was like, Oh, maybe I can get

1326
01:10:39,620 --> 01:10:41,800
away with that. Yeah, because
you can. I don't think I ever

1327
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,100
found one that looked right on
me. You know, other people, it

1328
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:45,940
looks really slick.

1329
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:51,580
I got the extra large, yeah, my
black one is an extra large, and

1330
01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:54,580
it fits my head. It's a little
tight. But then I had to get the

1331
01:10:54,580 --> 01:10:57,880
XL for the two XL for the next
one, because it was way too

1332
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,600
small for the XL. Okay, because
I have a two foot melon,

1333
01:11:02,580 --> 01:11:06,060
Jim, you're funny buddy. So
giant head, little feet, does

1334
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:08,820
that makes me think of Richie
Hayward. Richie Hayward, fan,

1335
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,600
huge fan, who's one of my
heroes? Who are your other drum

1336
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:13,080
heroes?

1337
01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:17,460
Richie Jim Keltner, nice.

1338
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:22,460
There's so many you know all the
jazz greats, specifically, you

1339
01:11:22,460 --> 01:11:25,820
know, Tony Williams and Elvin
Jones occupy a lot of my

1340
01:11:25,820 --> 01:11:28,580
listening time. All the great
you know, rock and roll

1341
01:11:28,580 --> 01:11:32,180
drummers, Ringo and Charlie and
Keith and Bonham that is

1342
01:11:32,180 --> 01:11:36,080
so nice to hear, because we get
no one dropping Tony or elvins

1343
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,160
names in here.

1344
01:11:37,340 --> 01:11:39,620
Oh man, I'm still trying to
figure out

1345
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,760
what to do with the big, well,
the big yellow kit that with the

1346
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,520
black dot heads that Tony
Williams played exactly such

1347
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,700
power. Yeah, it was amazing.
Man. He was rocking. Had that

1348
01:11:48,700 --> 01:11:52,180
fusion stuff, the that he did
with exactly,

1349
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,840
well, the fusion thing that
accounted for a lot of our, our

1350
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,360
listening for a long time, we
were, like, specifically into

1351
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,680
that. And then the straight
ahead, the interest in that jazz

1352
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,120
came a little bit later, yeah,

1353
01:12:03,300 --> 01:12:08,280
the Tony Williams lifetime that,
yeah, oh my god. And then Elvin

1354
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:15,240
is, like, again, he is like a
bashing passionate. It's, he's

1355
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,980
not soft,

1356
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,840
no, definitely not. And it's,
it's really emotional, yeah,

1357
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,720
it's like, it's like, a trip
thing when he plays. Man,

1358
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,720
it's crazy, like you are in the
motherland, like, when he plays,

1359
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,100
it's insane. He's in touch

1360
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:31,100
with something. Man, it's, it's
unbelievable. But yeah, and

1361
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:35,060
then, you know, gab procarro,
yeah, all of James Brown's

1362
01:12:35,060 --> 01:12:38,240
drummers, Purdy, yeah, I spent
some time in Muscle Shoals.

1363
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,320
That's where my fiance's from.
So, you know, Roger Hawkins,

1364
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:45,280
man, yeah, Al Jackson from
Memphis, like, I try to be aware

1365
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,200
of all of it, you know, yeah,

1366
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,720
I can hear all that stuff. And
you let the microphones do the

1367
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:54,220
work. You got a nice touch.
Drums always sound great, you

1368
01:12:54,220 --> 01:12:57,400
know, you incorporate
percussion, emulate the loops,

1369
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,540
and you're one of the only guys
I've seen in this genre that has

1370
01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:06,420
a China slash swish set
correctly.

1371
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,360
Well, there's some other
influences there, Mel Lewis. Mel

1372
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,740
Lewis and, I believe, John Riley
and Peter Erskine both did the

1373
01:13:13,740 --> 01:13:16,680
swish there because they watched
Mel do it. You know, because

1374
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,840
you get no he Mel. So Mel would
get so Jim. Mel Lewis was like a

1375
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,000
great big band drummer, and he
would play at the Village

1376
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,600
Vanguard every Monday night. And
his whole thing is he was a very

1377
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:31,220
quiet, he was a quiet big band
drummer, very, very mellow. But

1378
01:13:31,220 --> 01:13:33,680
he could drive all these guys.
And then when it would go to,

1379
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,500
like a solely section, which is
like, say, you get all the

1380
01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:38,540
saxophones and they're playing,
they're playing this whole

1381
01:13:38,540 --> 01:13:41,620
section in unison, he'd go to
the swish, yeah,

1382
01:13:43,660 --> 01:13:47,860
yep, it's got this smoky, smoky
sound. You got the rivets in it

1383
01:13:47,860 --> 01:13:49,600
too, yeah? 20 rivets in it. So

1384
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,780
it's not like he's bashing it on
the upbeats, like Carmine or

1385
01:13:52,780 --> 01:13:55,180
Billy goblin. He's because
you're just kind of letting

1386
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,320
it well. And I love the the more
rock sounding China's, yeah, you

1387
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,660
know, that doesn't seem to be
the most fitting sound for for

1388
01:14:03,660 --> 01:14:07,200
laney's music, no. But the
swish, surprisingly, like, if I

1389
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,800
have room for it, there's not a
gig I play that that is out of

1390
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,240
place on. You can't use it too
much. But, like, it's a really

1391
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:19,440
dynamic symbol, whereas the
other China's I've had, you kind

1392
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:22,280
of got to pick your spot, and
then that's what that moment is

1393
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,420
about, you know? Yeah,

1394
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:32,300
my China is the it's just fast
white lightning, and it's, it's,

1395
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,200
it's obnoxious, but, but it
works in our crazy band,

1396
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,560
yeah, I wouldn't say it's
obnoxious. It does a different

1397
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,880
thing, you know. And I got
opportunities way up there

1398
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,080
utilize that. You know,

1399
01:14:44,140 --> 01:14:47,020
it's the outfield thing. And I
remember getting my first Wuhan

1400
01:14:47,020 --> 01:14:51,100
China. The year was probably
like 1985 I'm practicing in a

1401
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:53,740
garage with my band, and I'm
just waiting, you know, Josie on

1402
01:14:53,740 --> 01:14:56,080
a vacation far away, Shasha.

1403
01:14:56,140 --> 01:15:00,960
Oh, my God, exactly. Man. Love
some of the i. Like those 80s

1404
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,980
stones records where I think
Charlie was using that UFI. P,

1405
01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:08,220
yes, China symbol. Man, that
thing sounds great.

1406
01:15:08,220 --> 01:15:11,160
Yeah. Have you seen the stones
with Jordan live? Ever

1407
01:15:11,220 --> 01:15:12,900
I have we opened for him this
year?

1408
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,680
This is I would have opened with
this. Nah. Man, I would have

1409
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,720
been like, Hey, rich. Have you
heard that we open for the

1410
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,220
stones? So where and when was
this? I

1411
01:15:22,220 --> 01:15:26,360
was in, I think June Soldier
Field, Chicago. Laney

1412
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,540
Wilson, that so cool. Did you go
backstage and talk to the guys?

1413
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:30,260
Didn't

1414
01:15:30,260 --> 01:15:32,120
get to talk to the guys, damn
it.

1415
01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:37,280
But we did. We did watch them.
The deal was they had a, they

1416
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,120
had a closed off sound check,
right? There wasn't supposed to

1417
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,940
be people out watching that,
yeah, so mysteriously, like we

1418
01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:46,900
all had, you know, things we had
to accomplish on that main

1419
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:50,320
concourse that looks out over
the stage, they sound check for

1420
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:55,420
their entire allotted time. This
was the second show of a two

1421
01:15:55,420 --> 01:16:01,560
show run at that venue, and so
there was little reason we could

1422
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,860
see for them to be sound
checking that day for two hours.

1423
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,520
All this to say, like I get the
sense they really like doing

1424
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,040
this. They just like playing.
They like playing. And they go

1425
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,460
through so much material live.
You know, maybe they had to bone

1426
01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:18,420
up on some stuff they hadn't
touched in a while. But, man, it

1427
01:16:18,420 --> 01:16:22,280
was just magic watching them
sound check, wow. And yeah,

1428
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:26,300
Reggie Washington and Steve
Jordan, man, we're just trucking

1429
01:16:26,300 --> 01:16:29,000
the whole time. It was crazy.
What

1430
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:35,540
did they used to say that the so
it's Mick and Keith Richards

1431
01:16:35,660 --> 01:16:42,100
were left of the stones, right?
Yep. Yeah. Players gone as well.

1432
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:42,820
Yeah, Bill

1433
01:16:42,820 --> 01:16:46,060
Wyman is not usually touring
with them, but I think there's

1434
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:51,280
some shows here there that he
pops up and does okay. And Chuck

1435
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:55,480
Lovell was playing. He's been
touring with them for like, a

1436
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:56,980
really long time, but

1437
01:16:56,980 --> 01:17:00,780
the original bass player
departed from the is, that is,

1438
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,380
it was, uh, it was Darryl Jones
for, like, was it 20 years? So

1439
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,020
that's what I meant to say,
Daryl. Would I say? Freddie

1440
01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:09,900
Washington, yeah. Sorry, it's
Earl Jones, yeah. So,

1441
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:13,920
well, hey, you know, Mick and
Keith are left, and then Paul

1442
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,540
and Ringo are left. I mean,
yeah, come on. I see

1443
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,740
what you're saying. A super
band, yeah,

1444
01:17:21,980 --> 01:17:26,960
man, Beatles in the stones,
dude, right, yeah. Chuck

1445
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,420
Lovell was that keyboard player
that I played that TV show with,

1446
01:17:29,420 --> 01:17:32,780
you know, with Paul Rogers and
Leanne rhymes, oh, slash. And he

1447
01:17:32,780 --> 01:17:35,720
was, he was the band leader that
day. He's the band leader for

1448
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,440
the Rolling Stones for like, 30
years, yeah, if not longer, hmm,

1449
01:17:39,860 --> 01:17:41,200
crazy. I did not know that

1450
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,900
small world. He sounded great
man. And they just, you know,

1451
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,680
like I said, it seemed
incredibly sincere. What they

1452
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,160
were up there playing, and they
had Laney sit in for a tune. Oh,

1453
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,160
my God. It happens to be like
one of my all time favorite,

1454
01:17:54,220 --> 01:17:58,240
which one there's dead flowers
off sticky fingers. Wow. You

1455
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:58,600
know,

1456
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,160
I was thinking that

1457
01:18:00,820 --> 01:18:05,280
she would do that. Um, think

1458
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,000
of the tune right now, but it's
always where a guest female

1459
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,060
artist joins them on that song.
Oh, interesting.

1460
01:18:12,060 --> 01:18:13,680
See, yeah, I'm not sure which
tune

1461
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,540
are you talking about. Gimme,
shelter. Yes. Okay. I mean that

1462
01:18:18,540 --> 01:18:19,680
would make sense. That would
mean

1463
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,260
it totally makes sense. Okay,
like

1464
01:18:21,260 --> 01:18:23,960
they even let Fergie up on stage
to do that with them at one

1465
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:24,680
point, you know, thought

1466
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,900
they were doing like AC, DC. Oh,

1467
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:36,920
God, what a great band. Yeah.
Damn, incredible, incredible,

1468
01:18:36,980 --> 01:18:40,660
just like Jim Brewer bit, not a
16th note in sight. All just

1469
01:18:41,500 --> 01:18:43,300
praying to eighth notes. Just
That's

1470
01:18:43,300 --> 01:18:44,140
right, yeah.

1471
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:52,420
Awesome. You ever see the bit
that Jim Brewer does like he

1472
01:18:52,420 --> 01:18:55,300
talks about parenting. He goes,
he says, The only thing that

1473
01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:59,920
when you have kids is the music.
You got to stop listening to

1474
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:03,540
your music, and you got to
listen to this awful music, and

1475
01:19:03,540 --> 01:19:05,700
it's like, sky is blue, yet.

1476
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,840
He's like, bring buzz, buzz,
buzz,

1477
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,700
okay, I get it. And then Barney,

1478
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,420
he's like, and these guys in
these metal bands would be great

1479
01:19:16,140 --> 01:19:20,480
if they just did kids music,
man. He's like, they would be

1480
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:26,480
fantastic. You know, Angus Young
and Brian Johnson from AC DC,

1481
01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:31,700
and like, you know, he starts
doing it. You gotta watch it.

1482
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,340
It's probably better. He is
good. Yeah, you had to be there.

1483
01:19:34,340 --> 01:19:35,600
You had to be there. Totally,

1484
01:19:35,660 --> 01:19:38,600
hey, so 75 shows this year.
Yeah, man, it's already

1485
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:39,740
happening. Or is about two.

1486
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,340
We leave for Europe in two days.

1487
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,220
I love this one. We're catching
everybody right before they do

1488
01:19:45,220 --> 01:19:45,700
the thing,

1489
01:19:45,700 --> 01:19:48,400
yeah. So then it kind of, we
kind of kick off.

1490
01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:51,640
And so in Europe, are you
playing like football stadiums?

1491
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:51,820
What

1492
01:19:51,820 --> 01:19:52,780
are you guys doing? It's

1493
01:19:52,780 --> 01:19:55,840
pretty mixed. We're hitting a
bunch of different countries on

1494
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,320
this little run. We're there for
about three weeks. And I think

1495
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:07,260
the. The shows in the UK. I
don't think that was the correct

1496
01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:12,660
thing. Some of the shows are
part of a festival, yes. And so

1497
01:20:12,660 --> 01:20:15,960
I think rotating through the C
to C thing, yes, yes. So we'll

1498
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,360
be rotating through those with a
whole lineup. Those would be

1499
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,800
some bigger venues, yeah, but I
have no idea what size this

1500
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,880
place we're doing in Paris is,
or we're starting in Zurich. I

1501
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,000
don't know a lot of Paris to
play country music. It's

1502
01:20:29,060 --> 01:20:30,620
awesome. Yeah? We kind of

1503
01:20:30,620 --> 01:20:34,880
show up in and observe how big
she is there, you know? Yeah. So

1504
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,600
it might be like 1000 cap one
night and a real big one the

1505
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,580
next night. It's a lot of fun.
I'd love to

1506
01:20:40,580 --> 01:20:43,120
go to Paris. Man, that'd be
amazing. I don't know if I'm

1507
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,400
gonna do it on my dime, you
know, but I mean, if I get there

1508
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,980
on somebody else's dime, it'd be
great. And you're definitely

1509
01:20:47,980 --> 01:20:49,900
gonna be able to get your
noodles

1510
01:20:49,900 --> 01:20:53,740
Right, right? Yeah, noodles of
all types, sure. Man's right,

1511
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:54,280
dude,

1512
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:59,200
I am just happy that I'm happy
for you, and I'm proud of you.

1513
01:20:59,200 --> 01:20:59,860
Man, well, thanks

1514
01:20:59,860 --> 01:21:02,940
very much. And I want to be sure
to say this, you know, before

1515
01:21:02,940 --> 01:21:06,900
you guys kick me out of here,
first off, thanks again for you

1516
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:09,540
guys having me, but rich
especially, you know, thanks for

1517
01:21:09,540 --> 01:21:12,600
what you do for everybody. Oh
man, thanks for what you've done

1518
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:17,640
for me. You were somehow one of
the first real cats in town that

1519
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:23,240
I met, and I think you've
basically found me. Everybody I

1520
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,060
talked to who's coming up,
they'll say, oh, you know, I

1521
01:21:26,060 --> 01:21:27,980
just talked to rich for the
first time. Like, yeah, of

1522
01:21:27,980 --> 01:21:32,060
course you did. You know, you're
a great connector of people. And

1523
01:21:32,060 --> 01:21:36,800
then, yeah, we all, we all owe
you for that. And to your your

1524
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:41,080
crew with Al Dean, the time we
spent with you guys. For those

1525
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,320
who have never really had a
reason to interact with the

1526
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,800
Aldean crew, they're the best,
most professional group of

1527
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:52,720
experienced pros you could ever
meet. And so we learned quite a

1528
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,720
lot spending that time with you
guys. Well, thank you. And we

1529
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:59,140
still say in conversation. We're
like, well, Aldine and them,

1530
01:21:59,140 --> 01:22:01,920
they did it this way. Maybe we
should look into that. Wow, it

1531
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,140
had a lasting effect on
everybody. Well,

1532
01:22:04,140 --> 01:22:07,200
I just got chills, because I
really, I really feel like I

1533
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,600
like I said, at that time, I was
still kind of suffering

1534
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:13,800
mentally, and I didn't feel like
I showed up enough for you so

1535
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,440
well, like, I said, Man, we were
in the van most of that tour.

1536
01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:20,160
Anyway, I wasn't physically
there for you to show up and

1537
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,180
talk to. You know, well, man,
I'm

1538
01:22:21,180 --> 01:22:24,080
just super happy for you, and
I'm gonna try to get you this

1539
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,000
full sonar deal here. Oh,
thanks.

1540
01:22:26,780 --> 01:22:29,420
I'm cool on that one, man,
there's some other stuff, you

1541
01:22:29,420 --> 01:22:30,260
know, you could help. Well,

1542
01:22:30,260 --> 01:22:33,800
let's talk about those heads. I
would love a head deal. So do

1543
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,000
you? Are you a Remo?

1544
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:37,400
I've always played remote heads.
Yes.

1545
01:22:38,420 --> 01:22:40,340
Chris Hart, we need to make this
happen. Rich.

1546
01:22:40,340 --> 01:22:43,360
I can, I could use a DW deal,
yes, yeah, man.

1547
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,660
Well, let's see what this little
tribute band does for you.

1548
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,960
That's the CSI sting. Oh, I love
that. Oh, very poorly timed.

1549
01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:56,320
Oh, man. Well, that is so sweet,
man. Thank you so much, buddy.

1550
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,620
Of course, I'm just like, I just
love people coming in here, and

1551
01:22:59,620 --> 01:23:04,140
I just get to publicly say
congratulations, and then, and

1552
01:23:04,140 --> 01:23:07,380
then, I'm proud of them, because
this is not an easy thing to do.

1553
01:23:07,980 --> 01:23:11,640
Appreciate it. There's a lot of
luck involved. But like I said,

1554
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,100
I got some some really good
advice, and I got to watch some

1555
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:17,400
people who have some real pro
level experience. So

1556
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,660
Just promise me that now that
you have the platform, that you

1557
01:23:20,660 --> 01:23:23,060
are going to keep helping the
next generation.

1558
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,060
I'm trying. Man, if anybody
wants to talk about any of this,

1559
01:23:26,060 --> 01:23:27,080
I'm here, yeah. What's the

1560
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,020
best way for people to find you?
I check Instagram pretty

1561
01:23:30,020 --> 01:23:32,480
regularly. Yeah? So since you
slide into your DMS,

1562
01:23:32,540 --> 01:23:36,680
yeah? Man, at Matt Nolan drums
and whatever anybody's got out

1563
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,360
there fucking help, I'd be happy
to I

1564
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,080
love it, man, thank you so much
for being here, bud. Absolutely.

1565
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,080
Have a great, great year, man, I
can't wait. We're, I mean, we

1566
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,100
don't start till, till,

1567
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:48,160
uh, May, so that's awesome, man.
I hope we see you guys out

1568
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,440
there. I hope we get to do it
again and do it right, without

1569
01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:51,520
the COVID. Yeah,

1570
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,840
yeah. Jim,

1571
01:23:52,900 --> 01:23:55,840
yeah. Great kid, right? That's
right. Jason, the friend of his

1572
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,360
life, 36 years old, getting
married. He's got a great gig.

1573
01:23:58,420 --> 01:23:59,980
That's right, it's awesome.
Sounds

1574
01:23:59,980 --> 01:24:02,940
like a lot of fun, yeah, man,
thank you. Man, yeah, it was

1575
01:24:02,940 --> 01:24:04,740
great to meet you. You too. Had
a fun

1576
01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:07,440
week. Jim, we knocked out like
four or five episodes this week.

1577
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:10,620
No, we got like 500 of them in
the can. We got them in the can.

1578
01:24:10,620 --> 01:24:12,540
We love it. Hey to all the
listeners, we appreciate you,

1579
01:24:12,540 --> 01:24:15,540
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1580
01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:18,960
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1581
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,980
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1582
01:24:21,980 --> 01:24:23,060
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1583
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,660
that was people signed the show.
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1584
01:24:26,660 --> 01:24:28,580
great time. Thanks. Matt,
thanks, Jim,

1585
01:24:29,060 --> 01:24:33,860
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1586
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