1 00:00:11,010 --> 00:00:11,820 Ally: All right, Seth. 2 00:00:11,820 --> 00:00:15,480 We got a great congressional candidate again today. 3 00:00:15,510 --> 00:00:19,200 Mr. Vance Bostic out of New York's eighth district. 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Um, Vance is. 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Amazing. 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,190 He's just the kindest guy. 7 00:00:26,190 --> 00:00:28,320 He has a really interesting backstory. 8 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:31,680 I've done a lot of research on him through his website and his social 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:37,590 media, and you know, he is taking on establishment Dems to the. 10 00:00:38,684 --> 00:00:43,035 1000000th degree because he is opposing Hakeem Jeffries 11 00:00:43,334 --> 00:00:45,404 for his seat in his district. 12 00:00:45,855 --> 00:00:50,175 Um, Hakeem, as we know, is not only a congressperson, but he is 13 00:00:50,175 --> 00:00:51,794 the minority leader of the house. 14 00:00:51,794 --> 00:00:56,265 So it is a, a tall order to even throw your hat in that ring. 15 00:00:56,700 --> 00:00:59,280 Seth: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to talking to Vance. 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,780 I mean, he's a, another fellow millennial, uh, real New Yorker guy. 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,860 And, uh, like a lot of the type of candidates that we wanna bring on this 18 00:01:07,860 --> 00:01:13,320 show, he's a grassroots guy, progressive, uh, and so absolutely looking forward 19 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,280 to talking to another guy like that who's looking to really involve his 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,690 community in all of his decisions. 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,460 Ally: Yeah, this'll be fun. 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,050 All right, let's get into it. 23 00:01:22,050 --> 00:01:23,010 I'll see you on the other side. 24 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:23,910 Seth: Let's do it. 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,080 Ally: Hey, Seth. 26 00:01:25,170 --> 00:01:25,230 Hey, 27 00:01:26,130 --> 00:01:26,400 Seth: Allie 28 00:01:26,910 --> 00:01:28,770 Ally: got a very special guest today. 29 00:01:28,770 --> 00:01:32,400 We are taking back the name Vance. 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,230 We have a Vance with us today. 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,880 A good Vance. 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,930 The right kind of Vance Vance Bostic out of New York City. 33 00:01:39,930 --> 00:01:40,350 Vance. 34 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:40,780 Are you with us? 35 00:01:41,310 --> 00:01:41,370 Oh 36 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:43,170 Vance: yeah, I am 37 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:43,710 Ally: here ready to go. 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,770 So nice to meet you. 39 00:01:46,770 --> 00:01:48,360 Thanks for joining us today. 40 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:52,140 Um, now Vance, you're running for District eight. 41 00:01:52,140 --> 00:01:55,620 You're running for Congress in District eight of New York City. 42 00:01:55,620 --> 00:01:56,670 Is that correct? 43 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,020 Vance: That is very correct. 44 00:01:58,290 --> 00:01:58,710 Ally: Okay. 45 00:01:58,980 --> 00:02:02,400 And your district consists of, this is my research. 46 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:09,420 You can correct me of Brooklyn, Queens, Coney Island, east New York. 47 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,010 Bedford is all that sounding right? 48 00:02:12,610 --> 00:02:12,970 Vance: Okay. 49 00:02:12,970 --> 00:02:15,070 So Brooklyn and Queens are boroughs. 50 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:15,190 Mm-hmm. 51 00:02:15,430 --> 00:02:17,260 So it's, it doesn't include queens. 52 00:02:17,530 --> 00:02:17,620 Okay. 53 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:21,100 But, um, it does include, it is Brooklyn and it's like a backward 54 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:26,060 sea from like, Bedstuy Brownsville, east New York, Carnar Sea. 55 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:26,070 Mm-hmm. 56 00:02:26,470 --> 00:02:30,340 Um, mill Basin, Marine Park Sheeps at Bay, Coney Island, 57 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:32,050 Brighton Beach, Manhattan Beach. 58 00:02:32,565 --> 00:02:32,855 Okay. 59 00:02:32,855 --> 00:02:33,690 Um, all the way down there. 60 00:02:33,690 --> 00:02:36,810 So it's like a backwards sea from like northeast to South Brooklyn. 61 00:02:37,140 --> 00:02:37,530 Ally: Okay. 62 00:02:37,530 --> 00:02:38,100 Good to know. 63 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:38,820 Thank you. 64 00:02:38,910 --> 00:02:44,010 Um, so your district, you're a congress person right now in District eight 65 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,609 is minority leader Hakeem Jeffries. 66 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,209 Yep. 67 00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:51,780 So let's get into that as a constituent. 68 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:53,100 Um. 69 00:02:54,255 --> 00:02:57,315 And I'm sure you're out there talking to other people right now, obviously 70 00:02:57,315 --> 00:02:58,665 because you're running a campaign. 71 00:02:58,995 --> 00:03:04,815 What's the overall consensus or feeling in terms of how Hakeem Jeffries is 72 00:03:04,815 --> 00:03:09,855 serving not only his constituents, but serving at that federal level 73 00:03:09,855 --> 00:03:11,025 as the minority house speaker? 74 00:03:12,825 --> 00:03:17,055 Vance: I think here in Brooklyn when I'm speaking to people, people are over him. 75 00:03:17,055 --> 00:03:18,615 People are ready for change. 76 00:03:18,855 --> 00:03:22,215 Um, you know, it really frustrates me because I hear the polls 77 00:03:22,215 --> 00:03:23,235 and we all hear the polls. 78 00:03:23,235 --> 00:03:27,075 And the polls say that Hakeem Jeffries has a 70% approval rating in the 79 00:03:27,075 --> 00:03:30,645 district, but I've been out for like eight months now speaking to people 80 00:03:30,675 --> 00:03:32,895 and it's not reflecting that at all. 81 00:03:33,225 --> 00:03:33,315 Mm-hmm. 82 00:03:33,315 --> 00:03:37,005 I would say maybe one outta every 10 people actually still support him 83 00:03:37,275 --> 00:03:39,195 with a majority of people are just. 84 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:39,930 Over it. 85 00:03:39,930 --> 00:03:42,930 They're overall, the games they can see through. 86 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:44,519 All the crap. 87 00:03:44,609 --> 00:03:48,240 Um, yeah, for the most part people are done with the, the shenanigans. 88 00:03:48,299 --> 00:03:48,825 Um mm-hmm. 89 00:03:49,005 --> 00:03:52,079 And for me, as somebody running a big part of it, for the people 90 00:03:52,079 --> 00:03:55,230 who don't see through it, is about exposing his level of betrayal. 91 00:03:55,230 --> 00:03:57,030 Because I do live in the district. 92 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:59,430 I did vote for him, I did support him. 93 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,050 And I feel betrayed. 94 00:04:01,260 --> 00:04:05,880 I feel when I look at his record and when I look at his, his, uh, donor list. 95 00:04:06,290 --> 00:04:07,190 In his voting record. 96 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:09,140 I'm just, I feel very betrayed. 97 00:04:09,140 --> 00:04:12,410 I look at it and I'm like, well, he's actually not on our side. 98 00:04:12,620 --> 00:04:16,430 Like one of the things that prompted me to running was when I saw him 99 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:19,730 at like union rallies and giving speeches and smiling and pictures. 100 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,280 But then I, like, I look at his voting record and he's voting for 101 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:25,159 union busting and he's voting, he's voting against unions. 102 00:04:25,159 --> 00:04:27,800 And I'm like, this is a major problem. 103 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,670 Um, so. 104 00:04:28,970 --> 00:04:31,460 Most people see it, most people are over it. 105 00:04:31,460 --> 00:04:34,790 There's a few people that actually still support him, but we're, we're chipping 106 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:38,540 away at them for sure to make sure that his level of betrayal is exposed. 107 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,260 Ally: Yeah. 108 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:42,410 I have my own personal opinions about Hakeem Jeffries. 109 00:04:42,410 --> 00:04:45,890 Obviously I don't live in your district, but just seeing him as the 110 00:04:45,890 --> 00:04:49,490 minority leader of our party, um. 111 00:04:49,890 --> 00:04:51,420 I'm very disappointed. 112 00:04:51,420 --> 00:04:54,060 I don't feel like he's meeting this moment at all. 113 00:04:54,570 --> 00:04:57,870 Um, obviously I'm sure you feel the same that we do. 114 00:04:58,170 --> 00:04:58,290 Yeah. 115 00:04:58,350 --> 00:05:01,020 Um, our democracy is in real trouble right now. 116 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:04,830 We are in peril as a country and we need leaders that are 117 00:05:04,830 --> 00:05:06,450 willing to stand up and fight. 118 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,970 I see leadership like that, um, with people like Jasmine Crockett and a OC. 119 00:05:12,335 --> 00:05:16,505 Consistently fighting, um, against the worst impulses of 120 00:05:16,505 --> 00:05:18,005 Trump and his administration. 121 00:05:18,245 --> 00:05:21,724 But I have not seen that out of Hakeem Jeffries at all. 122 00:05:21,815 --> 00:05:22,145 Vance: No. 123 00:05:22,354 --> 00:05:22,625 No. 124 00:05:22,625 --> 00:05:25,205 And that's like, that was one of the things, um, also, I mean, 125 00:05:25,205 --> 00:05:28,625 there's a lot of things that prompted me to run, but feeling. 126 00:05:29,565 --> 00:05:32,745 That I don't feel represented by him feeling that he 127 00:05:32,745 --> 00:05:34,094 doesn't represent Brooklyn. 128 00:05:34,455 --> 00:05:38,955 Mm. Feeling that he has been a hindrance towards any progression we could make. 129 00:05:39,195 --> 00:05:43,335 These are the things that I was like, we can't keep being held back by this guy. 130 00:05:43,635 --> 00:05:43,815 Yeah. 131 00:05:43,815 --> 00:05:46,725 We need people that actually want to be public servants. 132 00:05:46,725 --> 00:05:48,795 We don't need more career politicians. 133 00:05:49,305 --> 00:05:50,295 I'm tired of that. 134 00:05:50,505 --> 00:05:53,505 People don't get involved in the process of voting. 135 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,140 Because they don't feel heard. 136 00:05:55,140 --> 00:05:55,830 They don't feel seen. 137 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:56,880 They don't feel represented. 138 00:05:57,030 --> 00:05:58,770 Therefore, they don't even participate at all. 139 00:05:59,099 --> 00:05:59,250 Mm-hmm. 140 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,000 What I would like to do is to change that entire thing. 141 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,000 When I, when I think about running for Congress and getting elected 142 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,480 and being in the position, I wanna be more than a representative. 143 00:06:09,780 --> 00:06:12,150 I want to be a teammate with the people. 144 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:13,890 Like I have this idea of. 145 00:06:14,190 --> 00:06:17,250 What bills I go to vote on in, in the house. 146 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:21,300 I want to run polls in my district to see how the constituents 147 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:23,100 want me to vote on those bills. 148 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:23,810 I love that. 149 00:06:23,810 --> 00:06:26,430 Uh, and it's, it's a way to involve the people in the process. 150 00:06:26,670 --> 00:06:32,760 I want my office to be just a, a hub for constituent services for not just 151 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:36,330 for services for them, but for ways to help out in the political process. 152 00:06:36,659 --> 00:06:40,320 Um, I think it's about getting people involved more in including 153 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,150 them in every step of the way. 154 00:06:42,450 --> 00:06:43,650 That's how we get people. 155 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:45,030 To participate. 156 00:06:45,359 --> 00:06:45,900 Yeah, we, 157 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:46,979 Ally: that's fantastic. 158 00:06:46,979 --> 00:06:52,049 I mean, we have seen, especially over this last year, a lot of people that have 159 00:06:52,049 --> 00:06:56,549 been voted into Congress are MIA, you know, even when it comes to spending time 160 00:06:56,549 --> 00:07:01,830 in their offices, conducting town halls, um, listening to their constituents, 161 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:05,159 responding to their constituents, they've just fallen off the face of the earth. 162 00:07:05,490 --> 00:07:10,440 So I think that's a great way to approach service, um, being a public servant. 163 00:07:10,635 --> 00:07:10,905 Right. 164 00:07:10,905 --> 00:07:10,965 Yeah. 165 00:07:10,965 --> 00:07:12,734 Is really connecting with the public. 166 00:07:13,094 --> 00:07:13,215 Vance: Yeah. 167 00:07:13,215 --> 00:07:15,164 And that's something that I say all the time is that I'm running 168 00:07:15,164 --> 00:07:18,315 for the job of public service, not for the job of politician. 169 00:07:18,645 --> 00:07:18,825 Ally: Mm-hmm. 170 00:07:19,065 --> 00:07:22,905 Vance: Like I, I, I don't have a political background, but I have a 171 00:07:22,905 --> 00:07:24,825 background in hospitality and in service. 172 00:07:24,825 --> 00:07:26,685 And that's what I think we need in Congress for now. 173 00:07:26,865 --> 00:07:28,065 We need real public servants. 174 00:07:28,065 --> 00:07:30,405 We don't need another career politician with a low degree. 175 00:07:30,765 --> 00:07:32,055 I'm tired of seeing that. 176 00:07:32,055 --> 00:07:33,344 Look at where they got us. 177 00:07:33,405 --> 00:07:34,995 We need people who care about humanity. 178 00:07:34,995 --> 00:07:36,195 And that's what I'm running for. 179 00:07:36,255 --> 00:07:36,315 Yeah. 180 00:07:36,315 --> 00:07:37,485 I'm running for public service. 181 00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:38,669 Ally: I agree. 182 00:07:39,030 --> 00:07:40,979 So let's, let's talk about you. 183 00:07:41,309 --> 00:07:43,770 Um, I scoured your website. 184 00:07:43,770 --> 00:07:45,989 I wanted to get to know as much as I could about you. 185 00:07:46,409 --> 00:07:51,690 Um, I found kind of your journey to this moment really inspiring, talking about 186 00:07:51,690 --> 00:07:56,700 how you grew up, some of the challenges that you faced, um, you know, from 187 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:58,830 youth all the way to young adulthood. 188 00:07:59,130 --> 00:08:01,710 So just talk to us about you, right? 189 00:08:01,770 --> 00:08:05,010 What is your journey that brought you to this moment of 190 00:08:05,010 --> 00:08:07,200 deciding to run for congress? 191 00:08:07,890 --> 00:08:11,640 Vance: Yeah, well, definitely, like I said, um, for as long as I 192 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,730 could remember when I was a kid, I wanted to be a starving artist 193 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,780 like that was living in New York City, living in Brooklyn doing art. 194 00:08:18,810 --> 00:08:20,940 I was like, I gotta work in like the food industry. 195 00:08:20,940 --> 00:08:23,760 I gotta work in hospitality and I'm gonna be like a starving artist and I'm 196 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,969 gonna make art at night and I'm gonna work in service in the day and just 197 00:08:27,060 --> 00:08:29,070 always work in service for the people. 198 00:08:29,070 --> 00:08:30,030 That's something that I've always. 199 00:08:30,719 --> 00:08:31,530 I loved doing. 200 00:08:31,530 --> 00:08:33,990 I've always, um, wanted to pursue that. 201 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:37,289 I've never really done anything outside of that. 202 00:08:37,500 --> 00:08:41,640 Um, every job that I've had has been a service job of some sort. 203 00:08:41,970 --> 00:08:45,960 Um, whether it is when I was a Carney back in the day and I used to travel 204 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,990 the East coast of the United States with the carnival, um, literally 205 00:08:48,990 --> 00:08:51,189 working amusement rides, and that was. 206 00:08:51,365 --> 00:08:52,805 Such a good time in my life. 207 00:08:52,865 --> 00:08:57,605 Or I used to work at a catering hall doing five star Italian weddings 208 00:08:57,605 --> 00:08:59,045 out here in Brooklyn as well. 209 00:08:59,285 --> 00:09:01,835 Um, and even just doing stuff like that. 210 00:09:01,835 --> 00:09:03,485 I've worked on several different food trucks. 211 00:09:03,635 --> 00:09:07,205 I've done, uh, catering events for all types of things. 212 00:09:07,665 --> 00:09:10,875 And that's just really kind of been my, my overall focus. 213 00:09:10,875 --> 00:09:13,785 Even when I did event photography, when I was working in nightlife, 214 00:09:14,145 --> 00:09:17,295 I got into that because I was watching other event photographers. 215 00:09:17,295 --> 00:09:20,355 I was looking at their photos and I was like, people just look drunk. 216 00:09:20,355 --> 00:09:21,675 They look a mess, they look sweaty. 217 00:09:21,944 --> 00:09:25,365 And I knew that I could make the community, and specifically 218 00:09:25,365 --> 00:09:26,834 I worked in LGBT nightlife. 219 00:09:26,834 --> 00:09:27,135 Mm-hmm. 220 00:09:27,375 --> 00:09:29,714 Um, so I wanted to make people look beautiful. 221 00:09:29,714 --> 00:09:32,474 And I would Photoshop all my photos and I would edit sweat off of them. 222 00:09:32,474 --> 00:09:34,064 I would fix like girls' makeup. 223 00:09:34,305 --> 00:09:35,474 I would make people look. 224 00:09:35,475 --> 00:09:38,685 Beautiful in these settings when they were just having fun and 225 00:09:38,685 --> 00:09:42,285 letting, and that to me was another way of servicing the community. 226 00:09:42,585 --> 00:09:46,575 Um, and that's just kind of like, been my, my journey. 227 00:09:46,575 --> 00:09:50,745 I, um, I will say I'm not the greatest with academics. 228 00:09:50,745 --> 00:09:53,715 I didn't, I, I ended up dropping out of high school. 229 00:09:54,135 --> 00:09:56,265 Um, and a lot of this was because I put work first. 230 00:09:56,295 --> 00:09:58,395 I, I, somebody, I grew up in poverty. 231 00:09:58,395 --> 00:09:59,115 I live in poverty. 232 00:09:59,475 --> 00:10:00,705 I've always had to. 233 00:10:00,995 --> 00:10:04,594 Put work ahead of my own education at most times. 234 00:10:05,135 --> 00:10:05,225 Mm-hmm. 235 00:10:05,226 --> 00:10:06,665 Um, but I dropped outta high school. 236 00:10:06,875 --> 00:10:11,675 Uh, I ended up getting my GED back in like 2013, like right at the time where they 237 00:10:11,675 --> 00:10:13,444 were like changing the way the test was. 238 00:10:13,535 --> 00:10:13,625 Mm-hmm. 239 00:10:13,685 --> 00:10:16,564 I was like, oh, this is the moment I have to get it now before they do this. 240 00:10:16,985 --> 00:10:19,175 I was like, I, I don't know what's gonna be on that next version 241 00:10:19,175 --> 00:10:20,255 of the test, but this is it. 242 00:10:20,255 --> 00:10:20,944 I gotta get it done. 243 00:10:21,185 --> 00:10:24,935 And I ended up, I pa I passed, I got my GED and again, I went back 244 00:10:24,935 --> 00:10:26,225 into, I wanted to go to school. 245 00:10:26,225 --> 00:10:28,625 I, I wanted to go to college and get a degree and I never did. 246 00:10:28,954 --> 00:10:32,910 I. I went back to work and I kind of had to, you know, we, we gotta survive. 247 00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:33,810 We have to work. 248 00:10:33,810 --> 00:10:35,070 That's kind of just the system. 249 00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:35,280 Yeah. 250 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:36,630 Unfortunately, that's 251 00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:37,680 Seth: the millennial plight. 252 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:39,540 Vance: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 253 00:10:39,540 --> 00:10:40,080 That's it. 254 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,199 It it's, we're stuck with work and it holds us back from 255 00:10:43,230 --> 00:10:44,760 being our true selves, right? 256 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:45,150 Yeah. 257 00:10:45,180 --> 00:10:49,800 Um, and then finally the pandemic happened, uh, in 2020. 258 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,800 And instead of sitting home when my job closed, instead of sitting 259 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,770 home, I ended up going back to school and actually getting my degree. 260 00:10:55,890 --> 00:10:59,610 And through those years from getting my GED to, um, the pandemic 261 00:10:59,610 --> 00:11:01,895 happening from 2013 to 2020. 262 00:11:02,340 --> 00:11:05,880 I have found a love for accounting and through working in the restaurant 263 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,800 industry, front of house, back of house, um, doing like some managerial tasks, 264 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,670 I fell in love with the process of accounting and I wanted to learn it more. 265 00:11:14,670 --> 00:11:16,950 And I've always, uh, for years I was like, I really wanna get a degree. 266 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:21,390 I really wanna go to, to restaurants and get into the office and really help 267 00:11:21,390 --> 00:11:23,910 them thrive with my knowledge of front of house, with my knowledge of back of 268 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:27,600 house, going into the office and then just being able to help restaurants 269 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,290 really thrive to their, um, fullest was something that I really wanted to do. 270 00:11:31,290 --> 00:11:32,130 So I ended up. 271 00:11:32,205 --> 00:11:34,575 During the pandemic, instead of sitting at home doing absolutely 272 00:11:34,575 --> 00:11:37,665 nothing, I enrolled in school and literally the process happened so fast. 273 00:11:37,845 --> 00:11:38,865 Like it was like August. 274 00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:40,185 I was like, I should do this. 275 00:11:40,395 --> 00:11:41,685 Like I have the time now. 276 00:11:41,955 --> 00:11:44,115 And then like September I was like in classes. 277 00:11:45,195 --> 00:11:45,255 Wow. 278 00:11:45,255 --> 00:11:45,855 And, and, and, yeah. 279 00:11:45,855 --> 00:11:48,555 And I spent, I got my associate's degree two years. 280 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:51,735 Um, then I went and I got my bachelor's degree. 281 00:11:51,915 --> 00:11:55,125 I did my bachelor's in public accounting, business management, and finance. 282 00:11:55,455 --> 00:11:56,025 Um. 283 00:11:56,430 --> 00:11:57,540 Then another two years. 284 00:11:57,750 --> 00:12:00,090 And then I did my master's degree. 285 00:12:00,090 --> 00:12:03,450 I was like, you know, I got, I got accepted into this program and I was 286 00:12:03,450 --> 00:12:06,330 like, it was like a one more year and I only needed a certain amount of credits. 287 00:12:06,330 --> 00:12:09,090 And I was like, I could, I could actually have a master's degree, 288 00:12:09,090 --> 00:12:10,380 like who would've ever thought. 289 00:12:10,620 --> 00:12:11,340 And I did. 290 00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:14,520 I ended up getting my MBA, um, my Master's in business Administration. 291 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:15,120 Good for 292 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Ally: you. 293 00:12:15,805 --> 00:12:19,255 Vance: And I, in five years, I did it in five years, but those, that's incredible. 294 00:12:19,435 --> 00:12:21,505 Was some of the hardest five years of my life. 295 00:12:21,505 --> 00:12:24,775 Like I was doing winter, spring, summer, fall, almost six classes 296 00:12:24,775 --> 00:12:26,305 a semester, like it was a 297 00:12:26,305 --> 00:12:26,395 Ally: lot. 298 00:12:26,395 --> 00:12:31,225 I know people that have gotten accepted into the Fast Track 299 00:12:31,225 --> 00:12:33,745 Master's program as an undergrad. 300 00:12:34,694 --> 00:12:37,245 And they're lucky to get it done in five years. 301 00:12:37,245 --> 00:12:39,314 That's remarkable that you were able to do that. 302 00:12:39,525 --> 00:12:39,765 Vance: Yeah. 303 00:12:39,765 --> 00:12:39,974 Yeah. 304 00:12:39,974 --> 00:12:43,334 Oh, I, I did remember, so I did, it started with my associates in 2020, 305 00:12:43,334 --> 00:12:46,935 and then I ended with my master's in June, 2025 is when I graduated. 306 00:12:46,939 --> 00:12:47,030 Okay. 307 00:12:47,035 --> 00:12:47,685 That's incredible. 308 00:12:47,685 --> 00:12:48,405 This last year. 309 00:12:48,675 --> 00:12:49,189 Yeah, and I, I went. 310 00:12:49,555 --> 00:12:54,594 Through all of it, um, five years straight, uh, three degrees, and 311 00:12:54,594 --> 00:12:56,040 I did it and I was good for you. 312 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,775 Through the, I did a kicking and screaming. 313 00:12:57,775 --> 00:12:59,395 I'll say that the whole time. 314 00:12:59,395 --> 00:13:02,665 I complained about all of it the whole entire time. 315 00:13:02,665 --> 00:13:03,745 I was like, I don't know. 316 00:13:04,015 --> 00:13:06,055 And also it was like I'm 38 years old. 317 00:13:06,055 --> 00:13:07,435 I haven't been to school in years. 318 00:13:07,435 --> 00:13:09,055 I was never really that good at school. 319 00:13:09,055 --> 00:13:12,714 And so adapting to the process of being a full. 320 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,680 Grown adult, uh, in college after not being in school for so many years. 321 00:13:17,890 --> 00:13:21,160 Like, I just kept comparing myself to students in my class that 322 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,160 were, they felt ready, like they just got done with high school. 323 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,319 They felt like, like they were ready for it. 324 00:13:26,319 --> 00:13:29,829 And I was still like, how do I, how do I even do any of this? 325 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Ally: Yeah. 326 00:13:30,130 --> 00:13:32,020 Vance: Like how, how do I, how do I study? 327 00:13:32,050 --> 00:13:37,839 Like it was, it was a, um, an experience, but I will say where they had me on 328 00:13:37,839 --> 00:13:40,300 academics, I had them on life experiences, 329 00:13:40,305 --> 00:13:40,395 Ally: yes. 330 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:45,210 Vance: So that was like the one contracts that I did notice in school was they 331 00:13:45,210 --> 00:13:49,530 were, they were just not, they didn't have any experience in actual living life 332 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:51,300 where I did, I had a lot of experience. 333 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:53,580 I had a lot of work experience, like real world. 334 00:13:54,330 --> 00:13:55,830 Stuff going on that they didn't like. 335 00:13:55,830 --> 00:13:58,410 Well, they were ready for school, but I was ready for the world. 336 00:13:58,560 --> 00:13:59,010 Ally: Yeah. 337 00:13:59,100 --> 00:14:00,450 And that's really beneficial. 338 00:14:00,450 --> 00:14:04,200 I think a lot of times when people go back to school as an adult. 339 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:04,560 Mm-hmm. 340 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,110 Um, the experience is so much, it's, it's harder because, as you said, you 341 00:14:10,110 --> 00:14:14,400 have to readjust to school life, but it's easier in the sense that you have, so 342 00:14:14,430 --> 00:14:18,975 you, you, you have found your place in the world and so you're really focused. 343 00:14:19,545 --> 00:14:22,935 On what it is that you wanna accomplish by being in school. 344 00:14:22,935 --> 00:14:27,495 Where some kids, you know, they, they apply to school, they get accepted, 345 00:14:27,525 --> 00:14:29,025 and then they're like, now what? 346 00:14:29,055 --> 00:14:31,065 I have no idea what I wanna be when I grow up. 347 00:14:31,065 --> 00:14:34,785 And you're just spending all of this money getting out of school, potentially with 348 00:14:34,785 --> 00:14:36,585 a degree you may never do anything with. 349 00:14:36,735 --> 00:14:36,825 Mm-hmm. 350 00:14:37,275 --> 00:14:38,655 So I, I really commend you for that. 351 00:14:39,015 --> 00:14:39,345 Yeah. 352 00:14:39,345 --> 00:14:42,615 Seth: And I know, like through my experience, like when I graduated college, 353 00:14:42,675 --> 00:14:44,745 you know, right out of the recession. 354 00:14:45,135 --> 00:14:50,205 I mean, I was incredibly confused because I'm getting out into the work 355 00:14:50,205 --> 00:14:51,975 field and I'm, you know, I'm learn. 356 00:14:52,005 --> 00:14:55,425 I'm learning how to live, you know, independently. 357 00:14:55,845 --> 00:14:59,925 But at the same time, I'm looking for a job and there's no jobs. 358 00:15:00,195 --> 00:15:02,145 My entire field was, was taken up. 359 00:15:02,145 --> 00:15:06,195 I mean, we had a couple of part-time jobs and that's what I ended up doing. 360 00:15:06,345 --> 00:15:09,225 And uh, you know that, that is a huge advantage for you. 361 00:15:09,675 --> 00:15:12,825 So that is, uh, that's, that's something that I, that I envy you on for sure. 362 00:15:12,975 --> 00:15:17,265 I, I wanted to get back to, to Keem Jeffries though, because for me, 363 00:15:17,745 --> 00:15:19,665 I, what's been so disappointing. 364 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,580 His leadership for me is just the fact that he hasn't been 365 00:15:23,580 --> 00:15:25,475 able to whip the votes in. 366 00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:30,780 In the face of the incompetency we see from the Trump administration. 367 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:34,260 I mean, this should be a situation where, you know, where they were. 368 00:15:34,290 --> 00:15:37,530 They, they pretty much lost their entire lead in the house. 369 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:39,150 It's from five to two. 370 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,920 And Hakeem to me, should be able to make some things work, but I feel like. 371 00:15:44,535 --> 00:15:50,145 He can't because he has certain loyalties and he's also apparently lost touch with 372 00:15:50,145 --> 00:15:53,805 his district in New York, and I feel like everything is kind of distracting 373 00:15:53,805 --> 00:15:59,685 him from what his main responsibility really is to the people in New York. 374 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:00,250 Yeah. 375 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,810 Vance: No, I, I completely agree. 376 00:16:03,870 --> 00:16:08,610 Um, a big part of the problem is the way that he hasn't been able, as the 377 00:16:08,610 --> 00:16:11,790 house minority leader, he doesn't have control over the Democratic party. 378 00:16:12,030 --> 00:16:16,800 And to see like these few Democratic like members step out and vote against things 379 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,970 that would actually help the people is really frustrating when he's supposed to 380 00:16:20,970 --> 00:16:24,395 be, like, he claims that he has everything in control, that he's like the leader. 381 00:16:25,060 --> 00:16:26,260 But that's not what we're seeing. 382 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,140 Um, and then even when it comes to the district, like yeah, like 383 00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:31,720 people in the district, they're, they're definitely over him. 384 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,340 People are ready for a change here. 385 00:16:33,550 --> 00:16:37,330 And I think overall, you know, whatever the case is, he's been in, he's been 386 00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:41,140 in the establishment for so long and he has loyalties to everywhere else. 387 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,680 Um, he's just tapped out of what is needed in this moment. 388 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,780 He is not the right person for the job. 389 00:16:46,930 --> 00:16:47,020 Mm-hmm. 390 00:16:47,260 --> 00:16:48,880 Um, there are so many other people. 391 00:16:49,010 --> 00:16:52,250 In Congress right now that would be better leaders, um, 392 00:16:52,250 --> 00:16:53,720 that will make better speakers. 393 00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:56,569 I don't foresee Hakeem becoming speaker of the house. 394 00:16:56,569 --> 00:16:58,189 I it cannot happen. 395 00:16:58,189 --> 00:16:58,250 Yeah. 396 00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:00,080 Um, at all. 397 00:17:00,110 --> 00:17:03,410 Uh, and more importantly, I think he needs to leave and not be 398 00:17:03,410 --> 00:17:04,730 representative of the district. 399 00:17:04,910 --> 00:17:07,849 We need people who actually live our very real lived experiences. 400 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:14,140 In these positions, writing laws for us, not taking money from lobbyists and also 401 00:17:14,290 --> 00:17:18,880 letting lobbyists write legislation so our Congress people can pass it for them. 402 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:22,329 It, the entire system is just, it's, it's just not working. 403 00:17:22,510 --> 00:17:23,530 And it all has to change. 404 00:17:23,650 --> 00:17:26,410 And I will say it's not just Hakeem Jeffries, that's the problem. 405 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,250 It's the entire establishment, like almost every single 406 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:31,840 representative needs to be replaced. 407 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,860 Um, it's unfortunate that Hakeem is in the position that he is, 408 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:37,510 and he is as weak as he is. 409 00:17:38,295 --> 00:17:38,595 Yeah. 410 00:17:38,980 --> 00:17:39,270 Ally: Yeah. 411 00:17:39,315 --> 00:17:43,245 Seth: And Ali, I know you and I were very disappointed to hear, you know, 412 00:17:43,245 --> 00:17:47,955 the how the Save Act passed through the house, you know, along those margins. 413 00:17:47,985 --> 00:17:54,315 And once again, Hakeem Jeffries is, you know, found wanting, coming up 414 00:17:54,315 --> 00:17:56,445 short in the task that he's been given. 415 00:17:56,775 --> 00:17:57,870 Ally: Yeah, absolutely. 416 00:17:58,050 --> 00:18:00,790 Vance: And, and his reply to that was, oh, I didn't do it. 417 00:18:01,575 --> 00:18:04,545 Like, okay, you didn't vote for it, but you're the leader of the party, 418 00:18:04,785 --> 00:18:05,115 Ally: right? 419 00:18:05,235 --> 00:18:06,285 Vance: Like, aren't you supposed to be these books? 420 00:18:06,570 --> 00:18:06,850 The buck 421 00:18:06,850 --> 00:18:07,090 Ally: stops 422 00:18:07,090 --> 00:18:07,530 Vance: with you. 423 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:07,930 Ally: Yeah. 424 00:18:08,180 --> 00:18:09,795 Where is the accountability? 425 00:18:10,215 --> 00:18:10,425 Vance: Yeah. 426 00:18:10,425 --> 00:18:14,415 So even though you didn't do it, the the, the responsibility is yours. 427 00:18:14,565 --> 00:18:14,835 Absolutely. 428 00:18:14,835 --> 00:18:16,785 Like, I blame everything that's going on in the party. 429 00:18:16,785 --> 00:18:18,225 I'm completely blaming Haem. 430 00:18:18,225 --> 00:18:18,315 Mm-hmm. 431 00:18:19,575 --> 00:18:22,245 That's just, and that's just like the, the price that comes with being a leader. 432 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,730 Ally: Mm. Yep. 433 00:18:23,910 --> 00:18:24,630 Absolutely. 434 00:18:25,140 --> 00:18:28,170 Um, well, you know, I love your backstory. 435 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:30,600 I love that you were able to get back into school. 436 00:18:30,690 --> 00:18:35,730 Um, and I think you're, you're a people person, it just exudes from you. 437 00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:38,910 And our previous guest that we had on last week, he's running for 438 00:18:38,910 --> 00:18:44,370 Congress in Virginia and you know, he said, what we all have been 439 00:18:44,370 --> 00:18:47,185 thinking and saying is we're tired of. 440 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:52,890 Um, our congress, our politicians being made up of former business 441 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:55,050 executives and lawyers, right? 442 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,660 These people are woefully out of touch with the struggle of day-to-day Americans. 443 00:19:00,930 --> 00:19:03,120 You have worked in the service industry. 444 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:07,590 You're clearly a people person that is not only willing, but happy to 445 00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:09,330 connect with people in your community. 446 00:19:09,660 --> 00:19:12,870 And I think that's what we're really looking for going forward. 447 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:14,220 So, um. 448 00:19:14,419 --> 00:19:18,500 I just applaud you for taking everything that you've been through 449 00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:23,120 and focusing that in on giving back to your community in this way. 450 00:19:23,125 --> 00:19:23,605 I think it's great. 451 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:24,960 Vance: Yeah. 452 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,215 I mean that was, I just wanna add to that real quick. 453 00:19:27,215 --> 00:19:27,495 Mm-hmm. 454 00:19:27,575 --> 00:19:31,050 That was kind of the thing that motivated me towards running. 455 00:19:31,050 --> 00:19:34,380 Like when I was thinking, when I was contemplating it, uh, and I 456 00:19:34,380 --> 00:19:37,050 was going back and forth with my own self trying to figure out like, 457 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:38,430 is this something like I can do? 458 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:39,480 Is this something I want to do? 459 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,620 Like, how can I commit to this? 460 00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:42,480 And before I made the commitment, like that was the 461 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,095 thing is like realizing that a. 462 00:19:44,909 --> 00:19:47,429 Because I don't come from money, because I worked in hospitality. 463 00:19:47,429 --> 00:19:49,320 I, I, money's not gonna sway me. 464 00:19:49,379 --> 00:19:49,469 Mm-hmm. 465 00:19:49,709 --> 00:19:53,010 That's one thing that I, I'm very confident in my stance with the 466 00:19:53,010 --> 00:19:56,340 way I don't care for capitalism and the process entirely. 467 00:19:56,639 --> 00:20:02,010 Um, and then also it was just about my loyalty to people, my love for humanity. 468 00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:05,459 Those are the things that pushed me to wanting to do it. 469 00:20:05,459 --> 00:20:08,639 And also like my disregard for like, publicity and attention. 470 00:20:08,639 --> 00:20:12,209 Like, I, these are things that, that we need in our representatives. 471 00:20:12,270 --> 00:20:12,449 Mm-hmm. 472 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:17,760 Um, and those are the things that I. Feel like I embody and that's when I made the 473 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,389 dec. That's what came down to the final line, to making the decision to actually 474 00:20:21,389 --> 00:20:25,020 commit to the process of running for Congress was those aspects right there. 475 00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:30,090 My, my attention to my love for humanity and the way I don't care for money and 476 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:33,840 the way I don't care about publicity and the way that I'm also like extremely 477 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,620 self-reflective and can take criticism to assess, and I have a, and I have a very. 478 00:20:37,775 --> 00:20:38,555 Thick skin. 479 00:20:38,735 --> 00:20:41,735 Um, but I'm also like funny and can joke around about things. 480 00:20:41,735 --> 00:20:43,835 Like those are the things that I, those are the qualities I believe 481 00:20:43,835 --> 00:20:45,335 that we needed and we need people. 482 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:46,320 Ally: Yeah. 483 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,190 Real people. 484 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:48,090 Real people. 485 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:51,840 I agree with you and I looked through your, your platform and 486 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,830 some of the policies that you plan on, um, on campaigning on. 487 00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:59,940 A lot of them are very typical of what we are looking for with 488 00:20:59,940 --> 00:21:01,410 progressive candidates, right? 489 00:21:01,740 --> 00:21:07,080 You talk about healthcare and you talk about, um, banning insider trading 490 00:21:07,470 --> 00:21:11,640 and protection for marginalized people, marginalized groups. 491 00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:12,600 Um. 492 00:21:13,305 --> 00:21:16,305 You know, banning Citizen United at the state level. 493 00:21:16,485 --> 00:21:19,665 These are all things we want our candidates to be talking about, but 494 00:21:19,665 --> 00:21:24,435 something that really stuck out to me, and I know this is personal to you, is 495 00:21:24,435 --> 00:21:27,945 the Artist and Gig Workers Bill of Rights. 496 00:21:28,515 --> 00:21:28,605 Vance: Yeah, 497 00:21:28,605 --> 00:21:30,945 Ally: I haven't seen that before, so I'm curious. 498 00:21:30,945 --> 00:21:31,905 Tell me what that is. 499 00:21:32,445 --> 00:21:35,085 Vance: Yeah, well, I will give some insight on the, the 500 00:21:35,235 --> 00:21:36,945 entirety of the platform first. 501 00:21:36,975 --> 00:21:41,955 Um, so when I, when I decided to run, I initially, I didn't 502 00:21:41,955 --> 00:21:43,245 wanna build a platform. 503 00:21:43,514 --> 00:21:46,155 I was like, I really, you know, my whole thing is about including 504 00:21:46,155 --> 00:21:47,085 the people in the process. 505 00:21:47,264 --> 00:21:50,445 And what I really wanted to do was include the people in the process 506 00:21:50,445 --> 00:21:52,095 of actually developing the platform. 507 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:56,139 We want, but through the process, the, the beginning days of it, everybody 508 00:21:56,139 --> 00:21:57,250 was like, no, you need a platform. 509 00:21:57,250 --> 00:21:58,330 Like, I wanna see a platform. 510 00:21:58,330 --> 00:21:59,409 Like where's your platform? 511 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,690 So I was like, fuck, now I really gotta like do something. 512 00:22:01,899 --> 00:22:05,830 So the idea was about you, like you said, it's, it's common sense things 513 00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:07,090 that we all have been asking for. 514 00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:10,000 And that's exactly the idea is we have been asking for 515 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,530 these things for far too long. 516 00:22:11,770 --> 00:22:16,360 No more asking from healthcare to housing, to getting money 517 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:17,680 outta politics, all of it. 518 00:22:18,435 --> 00:22:19,635 We need it done. 519 00:22:19,815 --> 00:22:21,885 No more asking for this type of stuff. 520 00:22:21,945 --> 00:22:25,815 So that's kind of was the idea of, of formulating what I have on my platform 521 00:22:25,815 --> 00:22:27,795 was about just doing what we want. 522 00:22:28,125 --> 00:22:28,215 Mm-hmm. 523 00:22:28,635 --> 00:22:29,805 No more asking for it. 524 00:22:30,045 --> 00:22:33,915 Um, but the artist and Gig Workers Bill of Rights is something that is super 525 00:22:33,915 --> 00:22:38,895 personal to me as an artist and as somebody that has done a ton of gig work. 526 00:22:38,985 --> 00:22:44,805 Also as, um, AI takes over everyone's job and people resort 527 00:22:44,805 --> 00:22:46,965 more to artistry and to gig work. 528 00:22:47,465 --> 00:22:49,925 We need these workers to have protections. 529 00:22:50,135 --> 00:22:53,405 Uh, and the idea is just extending our regular bill of rights for 530 00:22:53,405 --> 00:22:58,175 regular workers, um, or for everyday workers, um, to artists and gig to 531 00:22:58,175 --> 00:22:59,615 include artists and gig workers. 532 00:22:59,615 --> 00:23:01,235 Make sure they have OSHA protection. 533 00:23:01,475 --> 00:23:02,855 Make sure that they're. 534 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,270 You know, and, and all of the other policies on it 535 00:23:06,270 --> 00:23:07,200 kind of play into each other. 536 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,360 Like the healthcare definitely goes into covering that. 537 00:23:09,570 --> 00:23:12,390 So there's areas of that that's just like making sure that gig workers 538 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:15,360 aren't catching asthma attacks and dying 'cause they can't afford an 539 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,580 asthma pump or whatever the case is. 540 00:23:17,580 --> 00:23:22,350 So all of them kind of play into each other, to build off of each other, to 541 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,110 have a system that functions for people. 542 00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:27,270 And that's just kind of the idea is to make sure that. 543 00:23:27,625 --> 00:23:30,175 You know, as AI takes all of our jobs that, that we have 544 00:23:30,175 --> 00:23:31,975 protections for all these people. 545 00:23:32,274 --> 00:23:32,514 Yeah. 546 00:23:32,514 --> 00:23:33,205 Um, yeah. 547 00:23:33,205 --> 00:23:35,725 And it, and it's the one that I feel the closest to. 548 00:23:35,935 --> 00:23:39,475 Um, and out of everything on the platform, that was the one that like I wrote 549 00:23:39,475 --> 00:23:41,905 myself and that I was like, I want this. 550 00:23:41,905 --> 00:23:45,385 I need, like, this is, and I do, I do promote it at the, like, the top 551 00:23:45,385 --> 00:23:47,875 of a lot of things that I, that when I want to talk about the platform. 552 00:23:47,875 --> 00:23:47,935 Yeah. 553 00:23:48,225 --> 00:23:50,804 The Artist and Gag workers Bill of Arts is something that I kind of always am 554 00:23:50,804 --> 00:23:52,215 like, I gotta make sure I mention this. 555 00:23:52,215 --> 00:23:52,840 I, I 556 00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:53,199 Ally: love it. 557 00:23:53,199 --> 00:23:55,574 I could, I could tell when I read it that it was personal to you. 558 00:23:55,574 --> 00:23:58,034 Yeah, I could tell that this was something that was really important 559 00:23:58,034 --> 00:24:01,695 to you, which is why it stood out to me, um, and resonated with me. 560 00:24:01,695 --> 00:24:03,314 So I, and I think it's great. 561 00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:03,959 Vance: Yeah. 562 00:24:03,959 --> 00:24:04,949 And we're in New York City. 563 00:24:04,949 --> 00:24:06,600 It's, it's all artists thinking Gork here. 564 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:06,959 Ally: Yeah. 565 00:24:07,469 --> 00:24:08,010 Vance: And it's also like, you know, 566 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:09,360 Seth: go ahead. 567 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:09,764 Oh, my bad. 568 00:24:09,810 --> 00:24:09,959 Yeah. 569 00:24:09,959 --> 00:24:10,199 Yeah. 570 00:24:10,379 --> 00:24:14,939 I was gonna say like, because I, I, reason why I relate to it is that I've 571 00:24:14,939 --> 00:24:19,830 never had a full-time job, you know, like I said, graduated out of the recession, 572 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,810 still have never had a full-time job. 573 00:24:21,959 --> 00:24:25,804 I'm an independent, uh, contractor for different TV companies. 574 00:24:26,219 --> 00:24:29,459 And so a TAA company has never, uh. 575 00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:33,230 Paid for my healthcare, paid for my 401k. 576 00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:37,760 I've had to set those things up for myself and that was why, you know, 577 00:24:37,850 --> 00:24:42,200 having the Affordable Care Act was so crucial for me early on when I got 578 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,940 off of my parents' health insurance. 579 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:47,120 It really picked me up because when you get into this gig 580 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,640 economy, there are no benefits. 581 00:24:49,970 --> 00:24:51,740 You, you are on your own. 582 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:55,220 And so a a, a Gig Worker's Bill of Rights. 583 00:24:55,575 --> 00:24:57,255 Is something that I knew you were 584 00:24:57,255 --> 00:24:58,425 Ally: gonna love this one, Seth. 585 00:24:58,635 --> 00:25:00,525 Seth: Like it just like the spark went off. 586 00:25:00,585 --> 00:25:00,825 Ally: Yeah. 587 00:25:01,005 --> 00:25:02,175 Seth: And I was like, yes. 588 00:25:02,385 --> 00:25:04,965 Because when you get out, I mean, when you get outta college, 589 00:25:04,965 --> 00:25:06,555 there's no guarantees out here. 590 00:25:06,765 --> 00:25:11,085 This isn't America, 1975, there is a job waiting for you if a, if you 591 00:25:11,085 --> 00:25:14,025 have a college degree, you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to hustle. 592 00:25:14,025 --> 00:25:15,075 You're gonna have to make it work. 593 00:25:15,075 --> 00:25:16,155 So, man, yeah. 594 00:25:16,155 --> 00:25:20,535 We need protections, uh, for gig workers and, and people like us. 595 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,409 Vance: Yeah. 596 00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:23,659 No, I, I, um, I definitely love it. 597 00:25:23,659 --> 00:25:27,050 And another thing that like sparked my, my love for that particular thing 598 00:25:27,050 --> 00:25:31,970 is watching, um, the NYPD consistently throw away, like vendors fruit and 599 00:25:31,970 --> 00:25:33,230 vegetables that are on the street. 600 00:25:33,439 --> 00:25:36,620 Like, there's nothing that I hate more than seeing, just like somebody 601 00:25:36,620 --> 00:25:38,659 trying to make it through the day. 602 00:25:38,689 --> 00:25:42,080 And then just the NYPD is just rounding up all their stuff and just throwing 603 00:25:42,169 --> 00:25:43,790 fresh fruit and vegetables away. 604 00:25:44,060 --> 00:25:46,189 Like it's, it's infuriating. 605 00:25:46,189 --> 00:25:46,250 Yeah. 606 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,439 And it's, it's like there's, there's nothing that like. 607 00:25:48,715 --> 00:25:50,785 Hurts me more than seeing that. 608 00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:53,575 Like, it, it really does get to me on a very deep level. 609 00:25:53,815 --> 00:25:57,895 Um, and it's part of why, like, I also like continuously, like despise the NYPD. 610 00:25:58,675 --> 00:26:01,345 There's no need, there's no need to like do anything like that. 611 00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:04,795 There's a yeah, like, because they don't have what, a permit or a, a 612 00:26:04,795 --> 00:26:06,475 license or something to sell fruit. 613 00:26:07,525 --> 00:26:09,895 Like what you're gonna throw away their whole thing. 614 00:26:10,045 --> 00:26:11,425 You could just tell them to pack up or whatever. 615 00:26:11,425 --> 00:26:12,265 It doesn't even matter. 616 00:26:12,355 --> 00:26:14,785 These people just need to protect that and that just needs to not happen. 617 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:14,909 Right. 618 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:16,409 That's just what it is. 619 00:26:17,220 --> 00:26:17,820 Ally: I agree. 620 00:26:17,879 --> 00:26:22,500 And, and you know, like I said, so many of your progressive ideas policies, 621 00:26:22,919 --> 00:26:25,020 um, remind me a lot of Zoran Momani. 622 00:26:25,710 --> 00:26:28,889 And so how are you feeling about Zoran so far? 623 00:26:29,985 --> 00:26:33,375 Vance: I, I liked, I supported Zoran all through his run. 624 00:26:33,645 --> 00:26:38,205 Um, I was out canvassing, I mean, I was doing canvassing for Zoran before 625 00:26:38,205 --> 00:26:39,735 I even decided to like run mm-hmm. 626 00:26:39,975 --> 00:26:40,605 My own thing. 627 00:26:40,754 --> 00:26:44,325 And actually it was after Zoran won the primary here in New York City. 628 00:26:44,625 --> 00:26:49,455 Um, that really sparked the, the, the want for me to run, um, shortly. 629 00:26:49,455 --> 00:26:52,275 I mean, it was, it was the beginning of when I realized that there was. 630 00:26:52,340 --> 00:26:53,449 Hope people had, hope. 631 00:26:53,449 --> 00:26:56,780 There was an electric like sense of hope all throughout the city. 632 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,199 Um, when he won that primary that I was like, oh my God, this is what's missing. 633 00:27:00,409 --> 00:27:03,865 People don't relate to their representatives, like people, and, 634 00:27:03,870 --> 00:27:05,300 and we had record breaking numbers. 635 00:27:05,449 --> 00:27:07,040 It was 'cause he inspired people. 636 00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:09,020 He gave people hope for something different. 637 00:27:09,230 --> 00:27:12,530 And we saw the turnout, we saw the people getting involved and 638 00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:13,639 I was like, that's what we need. 639 00:27:13,639 --> 00:27:16,070 We need more of that in order to get people involved. 640 00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:19,429 Because I mean, we saw for 20, 24, 90 million people didn't vote. 641 00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:19,970 Yeah. 642 00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:19,990 And that. 643 00:27:20,445 --> 00:27:21,765 Is a problem. 644 00:27:22,065 --> 00:27:26,265 Um, so yeah, no, I supported Zoran, uh, through the entire process. 645 00:27:26,265 --> 00:27:27,705 I, uh, I, I like him. 646 00:27:27,705 --> 00:27:29,535 There are things that I don't like right now. 647 00:27:29,685 --> 00:27:29,835 Mm-hmm. 648 00:27:30,075 --> 00:27:33,195 Uh, the, uh, the endorsing Kathy Holle is kind of annoying. 649 00:27:33,225 --> 00:27:33,315 Mm-hmm. 650 00:27:33,555 --> 00:27:35,565 I kind of liked her primary challenger. 651 00:27:35,865 --> 00:27:38,205 Um, I was, I was feeling 652 00:27:38,205 --> 00:27:38,625 Ally: him. 653 00:27:38,805 --> 00:27:40,905 I imagine there's some strategy behind that, right? 654 00:27:40,905 --> 00:27:40,965 Yeah. 655 00:27:40,965 --> 00:27:46,335 Because Kathy already has the gig, and if he's able to, you know, um. 656 00:27:47,850 --> 00:27:52,800 Coerce in a nice way her to get behind some of the things that 657 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,880 he wants to get done because he will need her ultimately, right? 658 00:27:57,030 --> 00:27:57,120 Mm-hmm. 659 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:01,080 To get funding for some of his, his larger policy. 660 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:02,100 Um. 661 00:28:02,150 --> 00:28:03,230 Proposals. 662 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:06,350 I can see why maybe that would be his route. 663 00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:09,980 He's, he's a pretty, he's a pretty bright guy, but I think it's, he's a 664 00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:10,910 Seth: charmer right's, 665 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:12,020 Ally: a char m charmer. 666 00:28:12,025 --> 00:28:12,265 He is, 667 00:28:12,270 --> 00:28:14,225 Seth: he charm the pants off of, of him. 668 00:28:14,395 --> 00:28:14,745 Trump. 669 00:28:14,745 --> 00:28:15,145 Donald Trump. 670 00:28:15,315 --> 00:28:15,665 Trump. 671 00:28:16,035 --> 00:28:16,385 Which 672 00:28:16,385 --> 00:28:16,545 Ally: is crazy. 673 00:28:16,765 --> 00:28:20,420 Seth: He had him rocking, uh, turtleneck for goodness sake, right? 674 00:28:20,780 --> 00:28:26,240 I mean, if, if he can do that with Trump, Kathy Ogle is, is a, is is easy street. 675 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:26,750 So I 676 00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:27,225 Ally: doesn't stand a chance. 677 00:28:28,115 --> 00:28:32,105 But I, I do think, you know, the thing that, that I, I love about how your 678 00:28:32,105 --> 00:28:37,655 policies are similar to Zo Ron's is because I feel like having, you know, um, 679 00:28:37,895 --> 00:28:42,965 representatives throughout New York City that are aligned with Zoran Mom, Donny's 680 00:28:42,965 --> 00:28:45,725 policies can make them go even further. 681 00:28:45,815 --> 00:28:46,205 Right? 682 00:28:46,265 --> 00:28:46,355 Yeah. 683 00:28:46,385 --> 00:28:47,885 You're not working against each other. 684 00:28:47,885 --> 00:28:50,520 You're all working in unison to accomplish mm-hmm. 685 00:28:50,750 --> 00:28:54,245 Very similar progressive changes in New York City. 686 00:28:54,245 --> 00:28:57,035 So I think it could be a really good partnership. 687 00:28:57,375 --> 00:29:00,495 Vance: Yeah, and that's kind of like the thing also that pushed me 688 00:29:00,495 --> 00:29:03,360 towards running was saying like, well, Hakeem is not gonna support. 689 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:06,090 What Doron wants to do for New York. 690 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:06,390 Ally: Yeah. 691 00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:10,200 Vance: And what we need in that seat is somebody that's actually going to not 692 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,280 just work with him, but build it and, and push it and, and see the vision. 693 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,070 Like that's something, as I saw the vision, and you're right, my, 694 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:20,970 my policies are very in line with what he wants to do, but it's also 695 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:22,710 about providing for the people. 696 00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:24,720 These are things that we have all been asking for. 697 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,430 So again, it goes back into just like, no more asking, but also like we need people. 698 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:33,580 To back him, to back the plan to see the vision and wants to help build the vision. 699 00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:37,060 And I fully believe that Hakeem is not for that. 700 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:37,360 Yeah. 701 00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:38,800 Um, he is, he is owned. 702 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,480 And it, the people who own him don't wanna see any of that. 703 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,450 I mean, look at how much they spent to, to try to block Zoran from 704 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:46,800 getting in in the first place. 705 00:29:46,830 --> 00:29:47,520 Ally: Exactly. 706 00:29:47,790 --> 00:29:51,600 And speaking of not being owned, I also saw you are not 707 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,220 accepting any corporate PAC money. 708 00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:57,420 You're not accepting any APAC money, so you are a true grassroots, 709 00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:58,605 progressive candidate that. 710 00:29:59,245 --> 00:30:03,745 Every five, 10, $15 donation is going to make all the difference 711 00:30:03,745 --> 00:30:07,764 in the world for somebody like you running a campaign in New York City. 712 00:30:08,185 --> 00:30:13,615 Um, before we get to how people can support you in your campaign, Seth, do 713 00:30:13,615 --> 00:30:15,360 you have any final questions for Vance? 714 00:30:16,905 --> 00:30:21,405 Seth: Uh, just, uh, who, uh, do, were there any politicians 715 00:30:21,405 --> 00:30:22,935 who inspired you on your way? 716 00:30:22,935 --> 00:30:26,835 Like, other than maybe ones that we've already talked about, maybe people in 717 00:30:26,835 --> 00:30:31,215 your family who, who really inspired you, uh, that you grew up around, or 718 00:30:31,215 --> 00:30:32,860 that you, uh, kinda see as a mentor? 719 00:30:34,155 --> 00:30:38,955 Vance: Um, you know, through the process of running I, and just even before running 720 00:30:38,955 --> 00:30:43,185 for Congress, uh, Shirley Chisholm here in, um, well, she, she is, she's not alive 721 00:30:43,185 --> 00:30:47,865 any longer, but she was, um, one of the first black, um, female representatives. 722 00:30:47,895 --> 00:30:49,995 Um, I believe it was, I wanna say it was New York. 723 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,680 10 maybe was her district. 724 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:55,230 Um, she also ran for the presidency. 725 00:30:55,290 --> 00:30:59,250 Um, she was one of the first black women to run for the presidency as well. 726 00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:01,800 Um, back in, oh man, I don't remember the days exactly. 727 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,170 I wanna say it was in the eighties that that happened. 728 00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:07,950 Um, maybe late seventies, early eighties, something in that field. 729 00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:11,160 Uh, but no, Shirley chosen is definitely somebody, she was just so aggressive. 730 00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:12,570 She was the, um, unthought. 731 00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:13,740 Embossed, yes. 732 00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:16,080 I dunno if you've heard that, that phrase, but that was her. 733 00:31:16,290 --> 00:31:17,235 Um, and. 734 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,910 Yeah, she's somebody that I, I, I, I've watched, uh, documentaries on her now 735 00:31:23,030 --> 00:31:27,290 and I'm just pulling inspiration from her just because she is aggressive and she 736 00:31:27,290 --> 00:31:29,270 just was a take no shit kind of person. 737 00:31:29,270 --> 00:31:30,950 And she did what she wanted to do. 738 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:33,260 And that's something that I would love to emulate. 739 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:35,990 And as, especially as somebody who's from Brooklyn, she's from Brooklyn also. 740 00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:36,410 Mm-hmm. 741 00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:37,460 Like, that's just what we need. 742 00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:39,920 'cause we can see Hakeem who's taken all the shit. 743 00:31:39,945 --> 00:31:40,034 Yes. 744 00:31:40,485 --> 00:31:40,605 Seth: You know 745 00:31:41,145 --> 00:31:41,715 Vance: what I mean? 746 00:31:41,804 --> 00:31:43,635 Like, like he was taking it all. 747 00:31:43,665 --> 00:31:43,754 Mm-hmm. 748 00:31:43,995 --> 00:31:45,284 So it's just like, we don't need that. 749 00:31:45,284 --> 00:31:47,745 We need people who are gonna stand 10 toes down on business 750 00:31:47,745 --> 00:31:49,905 and Shirley just was that person. 751 00:31:50,235 --> 00:31:54,855 Um, and she's definitely somebody that I am trying to emulate and feed off of that 752 00:31:54,855 --> 00:31:56,985 energy as I run through this process. 753 00:31:56,985 --> 00:32:00,230 And I mean, it's, it does get discouraging sometimes the entire process. 754 00:32:00,435 --> 00:32:02,230 I mean, I'm just a regular person trying to run. 755 00:32:02,625 --> 00:32:06,465 For a federal office, and it is not the easiest thing I keep telling people. 756 00:32:06,645 --> 00:32:10,335 This is the longest job interview and application process I 757 00:32:10,335 --> 00:32:12,465 have ever done in my life. 758 00:32:12,705 --> 00:32:14,115 Um, it is, it is. 759 00:32:14,265 --> 00:32:15,315 It is something. 760 00:32:16,245 --> 00:32:17,145 It's an experience. 761 00:32:17,175 --> 00:32:21,795 Um, but I think penetrating through that gate kept wall is something that is so 762 00:32:21,795 --> 00:32:26,625 important, uh, to show that a, we need regular people in there, but also it 763 00:32:26,625 --> 00:32:28,330 doesn't have to be locked the way it is. 764 00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:28,810 Mm-hmm. 765 00:32:28,889 --> 00:32:32,264 I think that there is a way to enter into the system and to be 766 00:32:32,264 --> 00:32:37,035 aggressive and unapologetic about it, um, to remove those barriers. 767 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,399 That they have put in place to keep us out. 768 00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:42,080 That way they have a lock on it all. 769 00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:45,050 Um, but Shirley Chisholm definitely represents all of that, and that's 770 00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:47,750 somebody that I definitely look up to in this process for sure. 771 00:32:48,139 --> 00:32:48,200 Ally: Yeah. 772 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,740 That's great. 773 00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:50,389 That's awesome. 774 00:32:50,629 --> 00:32:52,250 Um, okay. 775 00:32:52,490 --> 00:32:54,110 Vance Bostic the good. 776 00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:55,445 Vance the good. 777 00:32:55,445 --> 00:32:56,720 We're reclaiming the name. 778 00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:57,750 Vance: Yeah. 779 00:32:57,780 --> 00:33:00,120 Although I will say I'm not always so good, but 780 00:33:02,430 --> 00:33:03,510 Ally: nobody is. 781 00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:05,370 But you're not, you're definitely not. 782 00:33:05,370 --> 00:33:06,930 The other Vance that we're talking about. 783 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,040 Not even close. 784 00:33:08,155 --> 00:33:09,540 Vance: My, my name was given to me. 785 00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:10,410 I didn't choose it. 786 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,370 Ally: Yes. 787 00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:12,360 And I love it. 788 00:33:12,690 --> 00:33:15,330 And I love it, and I love that we're reclaiming it for good. 789 00:33:15,780 --> 00:33:19,350 So Vance, tell people how they can support you. 790 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,090 You have a, I know you have a website. 791 00:33:21,390 --> 00:33:24,150 You wanna give your website any socials that you have out there. 792 00:33:24,524 --> 00:33:25,185 Vance: Yeah, for sure. 793 00:33:25,365 --> 00:33:27,945 Um, you can totally go and check out my website. 794 00:33:27,945 --> 00:33:31,365 I fully recommended go check on my Ballotpedia questionnaire. 795 00:33:31,365 --> 00:33:33,105 It was one of the first things that I had wrote. 796 00:33:33,435 --> 00:33:35,264 Um, and it is extremely personal. 797 00:33:35,264 --> 00:33:38,655 I let a lot of like, insight, um, into there, into my perspective. 798 00:33:38,685 --> 00:33:42,615 But my website is, uh, Vance Beef for NY eight at uh, no 799 00:33:42,675 --> 00:33:44,294 Vance Beef for NY eight.com. 800 00:33:44,475 --> 00:33:47,385 I was about to say@gmail.com, like it was my email, no. 801 00:33:48,075 --> 00:33:49,560 Um, is van B for NY eight. 802 00:33:49,935 --> 00:33:53,475 Um, dot com and you can, all my links are on there. 803 00:33:53,475 --> 00:33:56,445 If you want to check out my socials, I would definitely say go to my 804 00:33:56,475 --> 00:33:59,715 Instagram, which is vance.b.nyc. 805 00:33:59,775 --> 00:34:00,135 Ally: That's where 806 00:34:00,135 --> 00:34:00,555 Vance: I got you. 807 00:34:01,485 --> 00:34:05,655 And then you can, you can check my, my link tree that is in my bio. 808 00:34:05,835 --> 00:34:09,675 And if you wanna participate in the campaign outside of donation, you can also 809 00:34:09,675 --> 00:34:11,235 find the donation links on everywhere. 810 00:34:11,535 --> 00:34:14,535 Um, but if you wanna participate in the campaign and help build 811 00:34:14,535 --> 00:34:16,695 this movement, uh, join my Discord. 812 00:34:16,875 --> 00:34:19,545 I have a Discord that's acting as my campaign headquarters. 813 00:34:19,545 --> 00:34:21,705 You can also get to that in my link tree in my bio. 814 00:34:22,065 --> 00:34:24,195 Um, and, and that's where we're we're. 815 00:34:24,275 --> 00:34:26,585 Coming together and working together. 816 00:34:26,585 --> 00:34:28,895 This is how we include the people in the process. 817 00:34:29,075 --> 00:34:31,175 I mean, you can help formulate my policies. 818 00:34:31,175 --> 00:34:35,255 I'm rewriting, I'm rewriting policies all the time, or I'm adding new ones to it. 819 00:34:35,255 --> 00:34:36,785 That's not up yet, but we're in the background. 820 00:34:36,785 --> 00:34:39,455 We're working on some new platforms that we wanna add on. 821 00:34:39,635 --> 00:34:41,850 Um, there's people helping formulate that kind. 822 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,180 Uh, bringing the plan that I originally had with having the community for, 823 00:34:46,180 --> 00:34:49,690 uh, build those, those platforms, um, that's something that we would do. 824 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,480 Um, you can help with opposition research. 825 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,410 If you got some dirt on Hakeem, you want to help out, um, help 826 00:34:56,410 --> 00:34:58,210 me, tell me at all I want to know. 827 00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:58,480 Mm-hmm. 828 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:02,020 Um, if, if you do design, you can help design things. 829 00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:06,970 If you want a canvas and door knock, like any, any way to participate, 830 00:35:07,210 --> 00:35:09,250 the campaign is open for the public. 831 00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:10,930 It's, it's something that I want everybody. 832 00:35:11,375 --> 00:35:14,195 Involved in, um, nothing is gate kept here. 833 00:35:14,465 --> 00:35:20,855 Um, so yeah, definitely go to my website, follow my socials, uh, and we gotta make a 834 00:35:20,855 --> 00:35:22,805 reach because Hakeem is a household name. 835 00:35:23,165 --> 00:35:24,185 Everybody knows him. 836 00:35:24,185 --> 00:35:27,695 And if he wins, just because he's known, it'll be a real shame. 837 00:35:27,970 --> 00:35:29,260 Ally: Yeah, I agree. 838 00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:31,395 It's been a real pleasure talking to you, Vance. 839 00:35:31,395 --> 00:35:31,995 Um, thank you. 840 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,820 Obviously, I wish you the best of luck. 841 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,750 We'll make sure that everybody knows how to, to reach out to you and to 842 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:40,720 connect with you and to support you. 843 00:35:41,110 --> 00:35:42,430 Um, and let's stay in touch. 844 00:35:42,430 --> 00:35:43,720 Tell us how things are going. 845 00:35:43,930 --> 00:35:45,070 We're gonna be following you. 846 00:35:45,460 --> 00:35:49,360 Um, primaries for New York's for your district. 847 00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:49,630 Mm-hmm. 848 00:35:49,870 --> 00:35:50,710 When are they happening? 849 00:35:51,135 --> 00:35:54,135 Vance: So primaries are June 23rd. 850 00:35:54,555 --> 00:35:54,585 Okay. 851 00:35:55,005 --> 00:35:59,355 And I believe the early voting starts, it's like 12 days before that. 852 00:35:59,385 --> 00:35:59,415 Okay. 853 00:35:59,415 --> 00:36:00,495 I believe they are in New York. 854 00:36:00,495 --> 00:36:01,065 I could be wrong. 855 00:36:01,065 --> 00:36:01,425 Don't go. 856 00:36:01,425 --> 00:36:03,345 I don't know when early voting starts exactly yet. 857 00:36:03,345 --> 00:36:03,435 Yep. 858 00:36:03,795 --> 00:36:06,285 But, um, the primary date is June 23rd. 859 00:36:06,555 --> 00:36:07,245 Ally: June 23rd. 860 00:36:07,305 --> 00:36:07,635 Okay. 861 00:36:07,905 --> 00:36:11,235 So let's stay in touch between, uh, now and then and just 862 00:36:11,235 --> 00:36:12,255 see how things are going. 863 00:36:12,255 --> 00:36:14,805 'cause I'm really looking forward to big things from you. 864 00:36:15,404 --> 00:36:15,795 Vance: For sure. 865 00:36:15,795 --> 00:36:16,185 For sure. 866 00:36:16,185 --> 00:36:16,605 Definitely. 867 00:36:16,605 --> 00:36:18,884 Especially with the ballot access happening right now. 868 00:36:18,884 --> 00:36:20,595 The next big hurdle is getting on the ballot. 869 00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:24,645 So if we don't make the ballot we're it's all fucked, it's all downhill from there. 870 00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:24,860 Yeah. 871 00:36:24,865 --> 00:36:24,975 Yeah. 872 00:36:24,975 --> 00:36:25,965 So that's really the focus. 873 00:36:25,965 --> 00:36:28,455 And that's due April 2nd Okay. 874 00:36:28,455 --> 00:36:31,980 Is when, uh, ballot access stops, and then we have until April 875 00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:35,715 10th to get everything bind and submitted to the Board of elections. 876 00:36:35,715 --> 00:36:35,745 Okay. 877 00:36:36,075 --> 00:36:37,245 In order to get on the ballot. 878 00:36:37,305 --> 00:36:38,535 Um, yeah. 879 00:36:38,535 --> 00:36:41,955 So by hopefully late April, May-ish, we'll, mm-hmm. 880 00:36:42,725 --> 00:36:43,895 If I made the ballot or not. 881 00:36:43,985 --> 00:36:44,675 Hopefully I will. 882 00:36:45,005 --> 00:36:45,125 We'll, 883 00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:45,430 Ally: hang on that. 884 00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:45,870 I hope you do. 885 00:36:46,055 --> 00:36:46,745 I really hope you do. 886 00:36:46,745 --> 00:36:48,455 Yeah, it's been great talking to you. 887 00:36:48,665 --> 00:36:49,385 Vance: Thank you so much. 888 00:36:49,385 --> 00:36:49,715 Yes, Bri, 889 00:36:49,715 --> 00:36:50,915 Seth: I really appreciate the time. 890 00:36:51,305 --> 00:36:51,635 Ally: Yeah, 891 00:36:51,845 --> 00:36:52,175 Vance: for sure. 892 00:36:52,175 --> 00:36:52,835 For sure, for sure. 893 00:36:52,865 --> 00:36:53,795 Ally: Thank you, Vance. 894 00:36:53,795 --> 00:36:54,245 Vance: Thank you. 895 00:36:54,245 --> 00:36:54,815 Have a good one. 896 00:36:55,475 --> 00:36:57,785 Ally: Alright, well that was Vance Bostic. 897 00:36:58,205 --> 00:37:00,965 I mean, what a great guy. 898 00:37:01,325 --> 00:37:02,735 Another great guy. 899 00:37:03,150 --> 00:37:07,260 Seth: Yeah, just a really outgoing, likable fella who's 900 00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:08,940 obviously a people person. 901 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:13,320 Uh, you know, it was so thrilling to, to see how he's gonna involve 902 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,550 his community members in, in every decision that he wants to make. 903 00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:20,970 I mean, this is not a guy who's gonna be swayed by money. 904 00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:26,220 Um, he's going to go to his constituents first, and that's maybe, that's 905 00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:29,700 probably something that, that Hakeem Jeffries has lost in the shuffle 906 00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:31,260 of being the minority leader. 907 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,370 All the, that comes with it and all the favors that you gotta, 908 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,990 you know, keep for everybody. 909 00:37:36,990 --> 00:37:38,819 I mean, I, I'm sure it's, it's crazy. 910 00:37:38,819 --> 00:37:43,740 But Vance is the type of guy who is young, he's hungry, and he is looking 911 00:37:43,740 --> 00:37:46,109 to put the focus back on New Yorkers. 912 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,279 And that's really, I think, what District Eight deserves there in New York. 913 00:37:50,549 --> 00:37:55,799 Um, very, very progressive, uh, in that same vein as an a OC. 914 00:37:55,875 --> 00:38:01,545 Was really energized by Zoran Mom's Run, and I can certainly see him collabing 915 00:38:01,575 --> 00:38:06,520 with guys like Zoran to really, you know, give New York what it needs a, 916 00:38:06,525 --> 00:38:12,194 a real plan for affordability again, so that the great city of New York 917 00:38:12,345 --> 00:38:16,875 is available to all Americans and not just people who can afford it. 918 00:38:17,790 --> 00:38:18,540 Ally: Absolutely. 919 00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:20,070 I loved that conversation. 920 00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:21,570 I loved his backstory. 921 00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:26,280 Um, all of the hard work that he did over the pandemic when most of us were just 922 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,730 kind of bed rotting and binge watching. 923 00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:33,690 You know, he was like, I'm gonna take this opportunity and go back to school. 924 00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:35,220 Something I've always dreamed of doing. 925 00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:38,070 And he accomplished so much over that. 926 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,319 Period of time and uh, and there's just something so affable, like there's a 927 00:38:43,319 --> 00:38:45,569 humanity in him that really comes across. 928 00:38:45,569 --> 00:38:49,379 He cares about people, and this is what I really wanna see we get 929 00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:51,779 back to with our candidates, right? 930 00:38:52,109 --> 00:38:56,790 Not people that are business executives or lawyers as we talked about, or real 931 00:38:56,790 --> 00:39:02,310 people with real life experiences that still are in touch with the challenges 932 00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:04,004 that we're facing day to day as. 933 00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:05,725 Everyday Americans. 934 00:39:05,995 --> 00:39:08,215 I think that Vance embodies that. 935 00:39:08,515 --> 00:39:14,109 I think that he is going to fight for other people just like him, um, in New 936 00:39:14,109 --> 00:39:20,695 York City that just wanna, just wanna have a, a, a easier go of it than we are 937 00:39:20,695 --> 00:39:22,795 experiencing right now in these times. 938 00:39:22,795 --> 00:39:23,245 So. 939 00:39:23,915 --> 00:39:26,075 Um, really hoping that he gets on that ballot. 940 00:39:26,134 --> 00:39:30,785 I think he said that was going to be decided April 2nd, or that's the deadline. 941 00:39:30,785 --> 00:39:34,475 So we should be hearing more about that, um, towards end 942 00:39:34,475 --> 00:39:36,484 of April, early or early May. 943 00:39:36,785 --> 00:39:39,575 And we'll make sure to follow up and see if he did make that ballot. 944 00:39:39,875 --> 00:39:40,745 I'm hoping he does. 945 00:39:40,745 --> 00:39:41,585 Fingers crossed. 946 00:39:41,585 --> 00:39:46,504 And then, um, if he does, we'll follow his journey up until the midterms. 947 00:39:46,835 --> 00:39:49,895 Seth: So yeah, it was, it was really inspiring to, to hear him talk 948 00:39:49,895 --> 00:39:51,815 about how he reinvented himself. 949 00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:55,890 Millennials get a a really tough, we got a really tough break of it. 950 00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:59,879 Uh, we, we, we came in the game, uh, in a time where there was a 951 00:39:59,879 --> 00:40:04,770 lot of upheaval financially and in the job markets and, you know, he 952 00:40:04,770 --> 00:40:07,049 took that time to reinvent himself. 953 00:40:07,850 --> 00:40:13,490 Um, in a time where a lot of people could have fallen into despair, he chose to rise 954 00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:15,680 above it and really give himself a shot. 955 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,160 So, uh, really, uh, great to hear that. 956 00:40:19,339 --> 00:40:23,629 And a motivated guy like that is somebody that we need in office, right? 957 00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:29,120 A guy who's gonna come in, be hungry, uh, represent the people and, uh, 958 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,529 and bring a fresh perspective. 959 00:40:31,350 --> 00:40:34,319 Ally: And, you know, he just got that MBA in 2025. 960 00:40:34,319 --> 00:40:38,460 He is right on the heels of that major accomplishment. 961 00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:42,720 This is somebody that's got a lot of fight in him and, uh, he's clearly willing to 962 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,100 fight for the people of New York City. 963 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:49,529 So, great conversation and, um, we'll see what's gonna, we'll see what 964 00:40:49,529 --> 00:40:51,450 happens with, with, uh, with Vance. 965 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:56,370 I really, I really like him for that, for that, uh, that seat. 966 00:40:57,330 --> 00:40:57,690 Seth: Sure. 967 00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:59,275 I mean, he's, he's, he's the real deal. 968 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,350 You know, he, he was a, you know, the gig, the, he is a real gig worker, you 969 00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:06,330 know, worked in the service industry. 970 00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:09,690 And I'll tell you, and I'll tell you what, Allie, again, like the, the Gig 971 00:41:09,690 --> 00:41:14,370 Workers Bill of Rights, that's something right there that could really catch 972 00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:17,009 on, and I hope that people hear that. 973 00:41:18,015 --> 00:41:22,005 Because that is the reality for so many Americans. 974 00:41:22,545 --> 00:41:23,325 Ally: Absolutely. 975 00:41:23,625 --> 00:41:25,455 Alright, another great interview. 976 00:41:25,455 --> 00:41:30,555 We'll catch up later and get into some news stories and our LOL of the week. 977 00:41:30,795 --> 00:41:31,245 Seth: Alright.