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You're listening to the Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. I think we need to

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find a new way to open.
Well. I always we were like,

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hey, we're here. Hey yeah, but it's just because we maybe maybe

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our listeners don't know this. This
is a good way to open is to

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tell our listeners that we think that
not preparing there's a strength in that well,

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that the whole thing is ad libbed. Yeah, like there's a there's

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I mean, obviously there could be
a disc The whole concept of the of

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this podcast is it's two guys opening
the Bible and talking about it. Like

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if we were sitting in the coffee
shop and you and I just got together.

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It's a devotional thing. This isn't
like that both of us prepared to

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come in and debate the Bible.
That would be a different kind of show.

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Instead, what we're trying to do
is talk about how the fact that

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the Bible can be understood. If
you're a student of the Bible, you

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should be able to open it,
talk about what's on the page in front

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of you. You have a meaningful
conversation. Then we horse around a lot

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because we take our faith very seriously. We just don't take ourselves too seriously,

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right, right, So so consequently
we think that a lot of it

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is best at lib because there's some
value in that. So so anyway,

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so I just so, other than
the fact that Desiree gives us a show

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sheet that says, hey, be
silly for five minutes and then go talk

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about this topic, right, other
than that, we don't really have a

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plan. Yes, well that's a
good way to open. There, we

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did it. There you go.
We did a different opening. So we

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don't know why you're listening because we
don't have a plan, right exactly what

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we kind of do. But okay, so our segment today is called guess

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the word. It's kind of like
taboo. And if you're watching on the

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YouTube, you know where you visually
can see this. We're going to try

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to put the words that I'm not
allowed to say right across the bottom of

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the screen. Because that's really the
challenge. The challenge is harder for me.

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Just say, if you're watching on
the YouTube, did I yes,

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you did? You're hey? By
the way, you so it used to

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be called Facebook. Did you know
that? Yes? I know that.

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Okay, all right, so years
ago, but it was never called YouTube.

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Alright, alright you all right,
So so here we go. Okay,

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first word for there's no other way
to be happy in Jesus but to

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trust and obey. There it is
there you go, all right. I

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wasn't allowed to say listen, comply, submit, children or parents? Oh

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wow? Yeah, right, you
have to sing trust and obey old Baptist

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hymn. That's right, that's right. That's page ninety eight. I'm just

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kidding. I don't know. I
don't know, Okay, it depends on

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I actually do know that. I
only know the first, second, and

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fourth verses, right, that's you
never sing the third verse because nobody knows

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the third verse. That's right in
anyone. Okay, This next one is

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okay, ready the sower in the
seat? Is this? What is it?

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Farmer? Oh it's a parable.
Yeah, it's a pair. Well

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that's ok. I wasn't allowed to
say tail, Jesus story, miracle or

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Samaritan. Okay, right, so
uh so how about that arible? Yeah

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parable? All right? How about
this one? Oh goodness gracious? Uh

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wow. Uh When you stab a
goat on an altar, it's called a

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sacrifice there it is. Wow.
I wasn't allowed to say offering, blessing,

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worship, sheep or God. Okay, wow, that was hard to

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come up with that. When you
stab, make it as gruesome as possible.

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Thank you. Sorry, Okay,
all right, here we go.

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Next word, our next big day
coming up for heritages. Sunday, No,

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the big one, A big one, yes, Easter. That's right.

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I wasn't allowed to say Sunday spring. I was not saying holiday or

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Jesus or resurrection, and I was
going to My instinct was to say something

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about the Easter bunny, but I
couldn't even say bunny. And I was

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like, you, you'll never get
that because without the word easter, okay,

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because I was like, go non
religious, then everybody's like soacritigious.

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Yeah, that's right. Then you
would have been kicked off the Bible.

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You'd have been the secular guy.
That's right. All right, How about

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this one? Okay, last word? When I say to you that you

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don't owe me anymore, that is
called what forgiveness? That is exactly right.

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Wow, that's right. I was
thanks man. I wasn't allowed to

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say ask, repent, apology,
sorry, or pray. Wow. Yeah,

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and you got there. I did, so. There it is.

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It's fantastic. Now hopefully you played
along and hopefully you tried to beat Jeff

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with the answers. We forgot to
ask you to do that, but hopefully

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you did it. Awesome. Good, Well there you go. See I

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can read your mind. Yes,
I know what you're thinking right now?

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What am I thinking? Got you? Shut up? No, I was

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thinking I forgot to look at the
topic of the scripture. Oh okay,

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which is Jesus teaches about the Holy
Spirit. Yes, exactly. So he's

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been peppering all of his teachings over
the last several days. Right now,

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You've got to remember all of these
teachings over the last several days have been

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on the walk from the Upper Room
to the Mount of Olives, right But

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for us, which by the way
we're taking it, it's not that far

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of a walk. No, no, no, it's it's how long would

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you say this? I don't know. We walked from the top of the

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Mount of Olives down into the Kidron
Valley and then up to the Eastern Gate,

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and not the Eastern Gate but the
Lion's Gate I think, which is

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near the Eastern gate a mole and
a half. Yeah, it's probably in

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a leisurely stroll, not more than
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think Yeah, I would think so
too. Yeah, because it's a steep

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hill going in both directions. But
yeah, Anyways, so Jesus has been

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peppering this conversation with the Holy Spirit. He keeps referring to the Holy Spirit

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as the advocate it right, or
the helper, And so here we go.

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In John chapter sixteen, verse five, Jesus says, but now I'm

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going away to the one who sent
me. Not any or not one of

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you is asking where I'm going.
Instead, you grieve because of what I've

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told you. But in fact it's
best for you that I go away,

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because if I don't, the Advocate
won't come. If I do go away,

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then I will send him to you, and when he comes, he

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will convict the world of its sin
and of God's righteousness and of the coming

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judgment. The world sin is that
it refuses to believe in me. Righteousness

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is available because I go to the
Father and you will see me. No

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more judgment will come, because the
rule of this world has already been judged.

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There is so much more I want
to tell you, but you can't

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bear it now. When the Spirit
of Truth comes, he will guide you

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into all truth. He will not
speak on his own, but will tell

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you what he has heard. He
will tell you about the future. He

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will bring me glory by telling you
whatever he receives from me. All that

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belongs to the Father is mine.
This is why I said, the Spirit

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will tell you whatever he receives from
me. Yeah, so this is his

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absolute declaration that I'm leaving you,
but I'm not leaving you alone. And

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the thing that always blows me away, and it really does, I mean

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not literally, but you know I'm
not spontaneously combusting or blowing away in the

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wind, but it does blow me
away when I hear him say, it's

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better for you that the Holy Spirit
comes. Right. So think about Jesus

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is there in person and has grown
up among men. He's lived a sinless

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life. He's guiding them, They're
following him closely. They have more of

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an they have more of an intimate
relationship with the creator of the universe.

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While on Earth, then, it
would be fair to say than anybody in

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history while on Earth, right,
because there's obviously relationships in heaven, but

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on earth, is is there anybody
else? Because you know the rest of

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us. You know, in the
Old Testament they look forward to the cross,

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right, and then up to this
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we have you know, maybe maybe
it's a little unfair to include us,

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but I would even include us.
I would say they're there walking and talking

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with Jesus. Anyway. That's the
point is you had his mom and his

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brothers and sisters. Yeah, they
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yeah, or however long because he
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sisters, so however old they were. And Jesus promises that these twelve are

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going to sit on twelve thrones and
judge the twelve tribes of Israel, right

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right, And then he looks at
them and says, however, it's better

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for you that I go away,
never to return. It's better. And

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so if God promises that it's not
only just good, but betters it would

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be hard to even imagine in that
moment. But yet the Holy Spirit is,

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you know, in us, right, So the Holy Spirit comes in

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us, and so things change at
this point because that's a concept that is

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a blow you away concept because at
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right, He had an address.
He had a central location, the Holy

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of Holies, in the middle of
the temple, you know, And in

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the Holy of Holies was just a
small room on the innermost part of the

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temple. And soon when Jesus dies
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the veil rips in two that separates
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The God, God's presence floods out. And now all of a sudden,

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God ceases to be at an address. And now the Bible says,

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we are the temple of God,
right right, and God is in us.

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So just as God existed inside the
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now God exists inside us, in
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that's what Jesus is packaging in that. And of course he knew all that,

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right, they didn't understand that,
But think about how cool that is.

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So I heard a past one time
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he goes, you have God in
you? I know it was it

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was Louis Giglio, And Luis Giglio
said, so you have God in you?

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He goes don't underestimate how awesome that
is. Because we look back at

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the Old Testament stories and we think, Man, when I get to Heaven,

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I'm gonna ask questions, like,
you know, I go and I'm

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gonna go up to Moses. I'm
gonna say, Moses, what was it

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like to go up on the mountain
and see the burning bush? And wasn't

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that awesome? And Moses is gonna
say, yeah, it was great.

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But let me ask you. I'm
getting emotions talking about it, he says,

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let me ask you, He goes, what was it like to have

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the creator of the universe inside you
and the power of God living in you

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that you were able to walk through
you know, life and have that kind

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of power accessible inside of you.
Because I never got to experience that,

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And most Christians are gonna go,
I don't know. I never really thought

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of it that way. The power
God in us right, and the devil

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has us believing it's nothing right,
And so I mean, it's such an

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emotional concept, you know. And
then to think like we're the privileged ones,

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you know, not Moses or sees
the burning bush, right, and

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not Joshua who sits in the tent
of the meeting and all these different things

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that they've witnessed. It's us today
right now. We're the ones that have

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the privilege because Jesus said it and
we're living in it. It's better right

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now. It's better on several levels. So certainly you're going to receive the

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Holy Spirit. It was also better
because if Jesus didn't go die, didn't

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shed his blood, didn't resurrect,
didn't ascend back to the Father, we

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couldn't be saved. That's right,
right, So that's going to be better

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too, right, So it's both
of those pieces together. So then he

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has referenced the Holy Spirit several times, often calling him the advocate, and

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then also talking about he calls him
the helper. He's the spirit of truth,

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right, So there's these different references. As an advocate, he is

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the one who goes between us.
We know that the Book of Romans tells

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us that the Holy Spirit prays for
us with groanings we can't comprehend, meaning

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as we pray, the Holy Spirit
intercepts those prayers, takes them to God

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and communicates on a level we can't
can't imagine. One of the benefits of

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that then is you can't mess up
and praying right. A lot of a

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lot of young Christians feel nervous about
praying What if I mess up right?

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What if I write? What Spirit? It's like, I got you,

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I got it. Don't worry.
I know what you mean. I know

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your thoughts, your intent, what
you're trying to say, what you mean,

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what you're asking for. I know
all that, right, And so

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it's that That's why I often I'll
find myself saying, God, I'm not

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exactly sure what your will is,
but that's what I want, is your

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will, And knowing that the Holy
Spirit can translate, Hey, this is

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this is what he's asking for.
What it's like, It's like that when

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you see those movies, you know, the brilliant code breakers on the ones

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who see patterns that's right, and
you're like, wow, he's such a

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great code breaker. That's the Holy
spirits part of the Holy Spirit's job sorting

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it out out. And then this
idea of being the comforter. Certainly,

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Jesus talks a lot about persecution.
He talks a lot about the difficult things.

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I've heard many people who've talked about
being in prison and they were alone

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and the only thing they had was
the Holy Spirit, you know, comforting

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them, reminding them. And almost
always they would talk about how the Holy

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Spirit kept bringing back different scriptures that
they had memorized, that they had studied,

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that they learned. The Holy Spirit
would bring those back to memory when

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they felt like there was no other
helper, right, the Holy Spirit do

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that. He also says that the
Holy Spirit will teach you in all truth.

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He'll guide you in all truth.
Right, So one of those things

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when we don't know what is true
and what's not true, instead of just

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trying to sort it out logically all
the time, although logic is part of

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what God's given us, it's a
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to show us what is true and
to point out what his fault, I

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think it's super important. He also, the Holy Spirit, he says,

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is here to convict the world.
So, you know, I find myself

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a lot of times looking for an
opportunity to share the gospel. I was

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just talking with a group of pastors
here about the idea of, you know,

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encouraging their people to write down the
names of thirty people that they know

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who aren't believers and just pray that
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people of their sin and of their
need for Jesus, so that when you

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show up to have a spiritual conversation
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And it reminds me of do you
remember when Joshua was afraid to fight

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and God said, I'm going to
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or I'm gonna go before you.
With Moses, it was both I'm behind

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you and in front of you.
Right, I'm completely surrounding you. You

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know, a lot of times I'll
pray God, go ahead of us before

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this service even begins today, go
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the people on their way in that
need to hear from you. Or go

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ahead of me. I'm getting ready
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Go ahead of me, and hopefully
over the weeks or the months that

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I've been praying for this guy ahead
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of drilling into him and preparing.
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He convicts the world of his sin, he calls to repentance, and then

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it says that he reveals God's standards
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uh every morning for like thirty years
when I you know, I've been a

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pastor for just like you, like
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And I'm telling you, I think
I'm not sure. There's a Sunday that

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goes by when I say my prayers
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I'll pray, like even on the
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early, you know, it's always
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say, God, I want you
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because it's so comfortable, I'm praying
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no, I have to get out
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but that has been a prayer I
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ever been a part of church,
because it's that same thing what you're saying,

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which is the conviction, and then
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of us, right, And I
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always think of the people because it's
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and I just I just pray that
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no, no, I can't do
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They just get out of bed anyway, go ahead. It also says,

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so if you're miserable in the morning
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up and then you can't go back
to sleep and all that stuff, and

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you're trying to and you're trying to
stay comfortable. Just know Chris is praying

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that God makes you uncomfortable doing and
I unapologetically do I really do. It's

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Chris's fault. You can next time
you see him. Next time God does

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that wakes you up and won't let
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wind up walking in the doors of
the church, walk right up to Chris

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and tell him it's your fault.
Yeah, thanks a lot. Is just

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roll over again. It's raining.
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reveal the standard of God's righteousness to
anyone who believes right. And and that's

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that's important for us because Jesus isn't
physically on earth anymore, so the disciples

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could look at Jesus and know what
the standard was. And for us,

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you know, not having Jesus in
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need the Holy Spirit too. And
that's why the Holy Spirit will use our

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conscience. A lot of times,
the Holy Spirit will will lean in us

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and go, hey, you know
that's not the right direction, or that

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is that wise for you or whatever. He's helping us understand what the standard

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of righteousness is. And then he
we know that. Paul tells us he

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also seals us. He's the one
that seals us, and Jesus kind of

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references it that we were in righteousness
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He seals us until the day of
redemption, until Jesus comes back. We

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are are sealed in Christ through the
Holy Spirit and Jesus. Four. Yeah,

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so there's so many things that the
Holy Spirit does. But can I

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point out one thing? Yeah,
Jesus says, I guess I pointed out

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like six things. But Jesus says, the Holy Spirit doesn't draw attention to

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himself, and the Holy Spirit doesn't
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play in the Holy Spirit, claiming
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they're doing all these amazing things in
the Holy Spirit and all these things.

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It's the Holy Spirit, the Holy
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Spirit, the Holy Spirit. But
the Holy Spirit doesn't talk about himself,

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and the Holy Spirit doesn't bring attention
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some kind of new revelation. He
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him. Jesus is the Word,
the Word of God. Right, So

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the Holy Spirit isn't bringing attention to
himself and isn't trying to get you to

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just play in the power of the
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is to point us to Jesus and
his finished work on the Cross. That's

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his job. Yeah. Yeah,
So there's always a thing that whenever I

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hear a person pray and they don't
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to Jesus. I never I never
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on because technically it's Father, Son, Holy Spirit, one God, three

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persons, right, But in my
mind I always think, oh, theologically,

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if you really want to get technical, every single reference in the scripture

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talks about us being reconciled to the
heavenly Father. So our relationship was broken

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to the heavenly Father, and our
relationship is with the heavenly Father Jesus the

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mediator who brings us back so that
we can pray to and Jesus always pray

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to the Father, right, So
you can pray to Jesus if you want.

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I'm sure that that's fine since there
are one God, three persons.

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But but well, every person who
came to Jesus and needed him to help

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them, he was they were talking
to God, right, right, right?

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Could you help me out? That's
right, that's right. But in

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my mind, I'm like, it's
better and more spiritually, it's more theologically,

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it's more theologically accurate. Yeah,
okay, So in the same way,

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in the same way, people say
this phrase all the time and they

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always say like, Holy Spirit come
down, and I always think the Holy

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Spirit's here, right, It's like, I understand what you're meaning, but

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theologically that's not correct. And then
they'll say, uh, okay, wow,

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the Holy Spirit was really present in
that worship service today or that gathering

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whatever it was, and man,
we were filled with the spirit like we've

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never been filled before, right to
which I'm saying, like, I understand

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what you're saying. The Theologically,
if you want to get technical, we

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believe based on what Jesus says is
that when you become a Christian, when

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you put your faith, in trust
in Christ, you receive the Holy Spirit,

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and you'll never ever be filled more
with any more Holy Spirit than you

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have right now. You have all
the Holy Spirit you need right now.

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There's never a time where the Holy
Spirit leaves you ever, right, I'll

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never leave you nor forsake you.
There's never a time where you have less

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the Holy Spirit than you have more
the Holy Spirit. Because theologically speaking,

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when those times where you say,
man, the Holy Spirit was really present

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and I had more of the Holy
Spirit, that's not accurate, accurately or

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true. It means that the Holy
Spirit had more of you, right,

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That's what it means. It means
that there was a time where you experienced

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a really great thing and you didn't
have more of the Holy Spirit. The

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Holy Spirit had more of you.
And so again I'm not going to rebut

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anybody who says that and I know
what they mean, you know, and

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it's a great thing to sell it, right, but theologically it's not true.

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You have all the Holy Spirit you
need right now if you're a follower

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of Christ. So let's let's let's
maybe straight away and just sort of you

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know, re you know, begin
to rethink how we say that because that

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also is a little bit of a
danger there, right. So it's like

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it's like, man, our services
are way more holy spirit filled than your

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services. Right now, nobody would
ever probably say that they do. But

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that's they do. They do on
a semi regular basis. Yeah, okay,

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but but but you see what I'm
saying. It sort of paints the

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picture that God is more present here
than it is here. But if you

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want to get theologically correct, it
just means that that that that this group

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over here wasn't as submitted to the
Holy Spirit, possibly in some cases right

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right, So there's a lack of
God's price. You see a comment on

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boy, I really feel like I
feel like the Spirit moved me. Yeah,

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but what they're saying is the Spirit
was in this service, right well,

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the spirits with all the blieve all
the time. So I think it

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was Tozer who used to say it
was either Tosar or Tory, one of

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those old great preachers who said the
question is not how much of the spirit

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do you have? But how much
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Spirit have? Right right? And
I think that that's the bigger issue for

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us to understand. It's all about
surrender. So if you want God's Spirit

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to move in you, it's about
you surrendering to the Spirit, right,

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right, because He's already in you. Right, That's what Jesus says.

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Don't you know that? What Paul
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temple of God. God lives in
you, and so it's a surrender issue.

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But yeah, and then you know
it's because of the Holy Spirit that

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Jesus tells us, Hey, You're
going to do greater things than me,

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right someday, which these are all
in this same conversation here, so good.

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Yeah, And I heard one time
that that's our time coming up.

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I heard one time that said,
if you think about from a thirty thousand

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foot view of the Bible, the
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seems to be that God the Father
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He's the one that has the will
for your life. It's Jesus is always

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pointing to. It's the will of
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and and such is the case of
the person of God in our lives.

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Right. So God, God has
the will for you. God the

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Father, and then Jesus, I've
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the work of the Father, the
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And then and then it's the Holy
Spirit's job in our lives. Who's

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the completer of the work, the
completer of the work and all of these

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things. You know, if you
think about every role that you described,

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the roles that the Holy Spirit has
in our lives, it is to bring

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about our faith into completion. And
he's the completer of the will of the

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Father in our lives. So it's
really cool. Well, hey, that

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looks like it's our time, and
we will see you next time, hopefully

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on the Bible. Guys,