1 01:00:03,633 --> 01:00:05,034 So day two of BACE starts off 2 01:00:05,034 --> 01:00:06,069 with what they call a static. 3 01:00:06,869 --> 01:00:08,805 And a static is what like a static 4 01:00:08,805 --> 01:00:11,474 display of all of the airplanes and all 5 01:00:11,474 --> 01:00:12,775 the jets and all the things. 6 01:00:13,009 --> 01:00:15,211 Yeah, that's right. So as we will see 7 01:00:15,211 --> 01:00:17,046 some of the footage, but yeah, we're just 8 01:00:17,046 --> 01:00:17,747 out here at Henderson 9 01:00:17,747 --> 01:00:18,815 Airport in Las Vegas. 10 01:00:19,515 --> 01:00:21,784 And so all the manufacturers are going to 11 01:00:21,784 --> 01:00:23,653 have their airplanes here to look at and 12 01:00:23,653 --> 01:00:25,855 walk on and touch and 13 01:00:25,855 --> 01:00:27,256 feel and all that good stuff. 14 01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:30,293 Welcome to Own the Jet by Aspen Aero 15 01:00:30,293 --> 01:00:32,161 Group, where we share perspectives from 16 01:00:32,161 --> 01:00:33,997 some of the leading voices in private jet 17 01:00:33,997 --> 01:00:35,431 ownership and business aviation. 18 01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:38,234 I'm your host, Derik Savage, along with 19 01:00:38,234 --> 01:00:39,569 my co-host, Jason Spoor, 20 01:00:39,936 --> 01:00:41,204 president of Aspen Aero Group. 21 01:00:42,138 --> 01:00:43,973 Join us as we dive deep into the 22 01:00:43,973 --> 01:00:46,109 mechanics, mindset and moments that 23 01:00:46,109 --> 01:00:47,510 define jet ownership. 24 01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:49,512 And together we'll learn 25 01:00:49,512 --> 01:00:51,547 what it takes to own the jet. 26 01:00:51,981 --> 01:00:53,650 It's going to be cool seeing the actual 27 01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:54,684 jets because everybody's 28 01:00:54,684 --> 01:00:55,885 always talking about the jets. 29 01:00:56,285 --> 01:00:57,687 But seeing the jets is a 30 01:00:57,687 --> 01:00:58,454 totally different thing. 31 01:00:59,055 --> 01:00:59,989 So what are what are some of the things 32 01:00:59,989 --> 01:01:02,725 we can expect to see here at the static 33 01:01:02,725 --> 01:01:03,726 that they have for base? 34 01:01:04,327 --> 01:01:06,396 Yeah. So a lot of what you're going to 35 01:01:06,396 --> 01:01:08,031 see here is a lot of flight departments. 36 01:01:08,031 --> 01:01:09,966 You're going to see aircraft owners 37 01:01:09,966 --> 01:01:12,135 coming out just to see the airplanes 38 01:01:12,135 --> 01:01:13,970 without having to go through a whole 39 01:01:13,970 --> 01:01:15,505 formal process to do that. 40 01:01:15,505 --> 01:01:17,473 So they're going to be able to go on like 41 01:01:17,473 --> 01:01:19,375 behind us, the Honda jet and go see what 42 01:01:19,375 --> 01:01:22,078 it feels like, sit in it and talk to the 43 01:01:22,078 --> 01:01:23,713 sales guys without having to, 44 01:01:24,313 --> 01:01:25,915 yeah, again, go through a whole formal. 45 01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:29,052 No, no, no... 46 01:01:29,052 --> 01:01:29,819 none of the Rigamarole. 47 01:01:29,819 --> 01:01:32,055 Yeah. OK. No rigmarole. 48 01:01:32,388 --> 01:01:34,090 So here you've got every, you know, every 49 01:01:34,090 --> 01:01:35,892 manufacturer, every corporate 50 01:01:35,892 --> 01:01:38,361 jet showing off what they have. 51 01:01:38,828 --> 01:01:40,063 OK. Show me your wares. 52 01:01:40,463 --> 01:01:42,131 Let's go. Let's go see. 53 01:01:42,465 --> 01:01:45,568 Let's go check out some wares here at the 54 01:01:45,568 --> 01:01:48,337 static at MBAA's BACE conference here in 55 01:01:48,337 --> 01:01:49,939 beautiful, sunny Las Vegas, Nevada. 56 01:01:50,406 --> 01:01:51,641 All right. Let's check them out. 57 01:01:59,115 --> 01:02:00,750 Exciting opportunity here. We get to talk 58 01:02:00,750 --> 01:02:02,585 to Mark from Bombardier. 59 01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:04,287 And Mark, can you tell me a little bit 60 01:02:04,287 --> 01:02:05,154 about what you do and what 61 01:02:05,154 --> 01:02:06,089 your role is here at Bombardier? 62 01:02:06,355 --> 01:02:07,824 So I'm in charge of communications for 63 01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:08,891 Bombardier, internal external. 64 01:02:09,392 --> 01:02:11,661 So at shows like MBAA BACE, it's my 65 01:02:11,661 --> 01:02:12,895 absolute pleasure to talk about 66 01:02:12,895 --> 01:02:14,097 everything that Bombardier does, 67 01:02:14,097 --> 01:02:15,631 including the wonderful jets behind us. 68 01:02:15,932 --> 01:02:17,700 Awesome. And can you tell me about the 69 01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:18,668 wonderful jets behind us? 70 01:02:18,668 --> 01:02:20,169 This is a global 6500, right? 71 01:02:20,236 --> 01:02:22,705 Global 6500. It is an absolute workhorse. 72 01:02:23,106 --> 01:02:24,340 So if you look at the interior, it's 73 01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:25,475 really designed for comfort. 74 01:02:25,908 --> 01:02:27,810 It's designed to bring you to your 75 01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:29,545 destination refreshed and offers the 76 01:02:29,545 --> 01:02:30,646 industry's smoothest ride. 77 01:02:30,646 --> 01:02:31,280 So we design our 78 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,348 wings to be very flexible. 79 01:02:32,682 --> 01:02:33,549 We can actually go bend 80 01:02:33,549 --> 01:02:34,584 one if you'd like afterwards. 81 01:02:35,451 --> 01:02:36,886 Yeah, we do. We definitely want to. 82 01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:40,189 But it really abates turbulence and 83 01:02:40,189 --> 01:02:41,257 provides the smoothest ride. 84 01:02:42,091 --> 01:02:44,427 So what can you tell me about the 85 01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:45,895 exciting things that Bombardier is 86 01:02:45,895 --> 01:02:48,030 bringing to the BACE conference this year 87 01:02:48,164 --> 01:02:49,265 and what you guys are like 88 01:02:49,265 --> 01:02:50,933 really excited to talk about? 89 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,668 So I think first and foremost, those are 90 01:02:52,668 --> 01:02:54,203 really big unveiling here. 91 01:02:54,203 --> 01:02:56,506 So in June, we secured an order for 50 92 01:02:56,506 --> 01:02:58,141 aircraft with 70 more options. 93 01:02:58,441 --> 01:03:00,143 And that was revealed as 94 01:03:00,143 --> 01:03:01,644 a new customer named Bond. 95 01:03:02,044 --> 01:03:03,713 So they're offering an innovative 96 01:03:03,713 --> 01:03:05,014 fractional service to the market. 97 01:03:05,014 --> 01:03:06,382 And that was part of our biggest 98 01:03:06,382 --> 01:03:07,416 unveiling here at the show. 99 01:03:07,717 --> 01:03:09,485 We've also announced that the global 100 01:03:09,485 --> 01:03:11,654 8000, which was already set to be the 101 01:03:11,654 --> 01:03:13,156 fastest jet in the industry, 102 01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:15,958 just got its speed a little bit ticked up 103 01:03:15,958 --> 01:03:17,894 from Mach 94 to Mach 95. 104 01:03:18,427 --> 01:03:20,129 But what that does is it actually will 105 01:03:20,129 --> 01:03:23,432 give customers 800 nautical miles more at 106 01:03:23,432 --> 01:03:24,567 very high speed cruise 107 01:03:24,567 --> 01:03:26,169 or what we call ultra high speed cruise. 108 01:03:26,169 --> 01:03:27,203 So you're in the Mach 92 109 01:03:27,203 --> 01:03:30,473 range of of your of a mission. 110 01:03:30,473 --> 01:03:31,874 So really just pushing the boundaries of 111 01:03:31,874 --> 01:03:34,010 what speed is in business aviation and 112 01:03:34,010 --> 01:03:36,112 just our whole portfolio here on display. 113 01:03:36,412 --> 01:03:38,181 We're proud of like the Challenger 3500, 114 01:03:38,181 --> 01:03:40,016 which is also behind the 6500 here, 115 01:03:40,316 --> 01:03:41,684 just continues to be the best selling 116 01:03:41,684 --> 01:03:44,487 super mid-sized platform and lineups for 117 01:03:44,487 --> 01:03:45,388 it with a lot of interest. 118 01:03:46,355 --> 01:03:48,224 So for the layperson like me, I see all 119 01:03:48,224 --> 01:03:50,726 the Bombardier models and I see there are 120 01:03:50,726 --> 01:03:51,527 a lot of Challenger models 121 01:03:51,527 --> 01:03:53,262 and a lot of global models. Can you tell 122 01:03:53,262 --> 01:03:54,297 me the difference between those two? 123 01:03:54,664 --> 01:03:55,932 Well, it's really about what you want to 124 01:03:55,932 --> 01:03:56,766 do with your aircraft. 125 01:03:57,333 --> 01:03:58,668 So if you're starting with a Challenger 126 01:03:58,668 --> 01:04:00,937 3500, that's operators who 127 01:04:00,937 --> 01:04:02,405 are flying in North America. 128 01:04:02,405 --> 01:04:04,240 It's a coast to coast. You load it with 129 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,975 eight passengers, full fuel, and it'll 130 01:04:05,975 --> 01:04:07,643 just cover North America for you. 131 01:04:07,844 --> 01:04:09,245 If you're looking at transatlantic, 132 01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:10,479 that's where you step 133 01:04:10,479 --> 01:04:11,681 up to a Challenger 650. 134 01:04:12,081 --> 01:04:13,182 You have a wide cabin. 135 01:04:13,482 --> 01:04:14,884 This is something that's becoming a, you 136 01:04:14,884 --> 01:04:16,385 know, in the 4000 plus nautical mile 137 01:04:16,385 --> 01:04:17,854 range aircraft category. 138 01:04:18,254 --> 01:04:19,956 And then the Globals, that's really it's 139 01:04:19,956 --> 01:04:20,890 in the name. It's global. 140 01:04:21,257 --> 01:04:23,526 So starting with the 5500 to the 6500, 141 01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:26,195 those are refreshed aircraft with brand 142 01:04:26,195 --> 01:04:27,129 new Rolls-Royce engines. 143 01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:28,231 So a lot more efficient 144 01:04:28,231 --> 01:04:29,265 than previous generations. 145 01:04:30,066 --> 01:04:31,167 But that's where you really start getting 146 01:04:31,167 --> 01:04:33,536 that trans oceanic range. 147 01:04:34,036 --> 01:04:35,404 And then if you want to cover the world 148 01:04:35,404 --> 01:04:37,106 completely, that's where 149 01:04:37,106 --> 01:04:38,608 the Globals 8000 comes in. 150 01:04:39,108 --> 01:04:41,444 So the Globals 8000, it's a no compromise 151 01:04:41,444 --> 01:04:43,246 for cabin space aircraft. 152 01:04:43,579 --> 01:04:45,548 It can land with steep approach at low 153 01:04:45,548 --> 01:04:46,883 speeds with flaps and slats. 154 01:04:47,250 --> 01:04:49,585 It can go the fastest. It has the Globals 155 01:04:49,585 --> 01:04:51,454 7500 actually has 150 speed records. 156 01:04:51,654 --> 01:04:53,522 So it's the record of records. No 157 01:04:53,522 --> 01:04:54,590 aircraft platform has 158 01:04:54,590 --> 01:04:55,925 singly captured more. 159 01:04:56,325 --> 01:04:58,060 And the 8000 is just going to be the 160 01:04:58,060 --> 01:04:59,562 basic pinnacle of business aviation. 161 01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:01,364 So that's like flying 162 01:05:01,364 --> 01:05:02,265 a hotel room around. 163 01:05:02,732 --> 01:05:05,301 So you say the 8000 is going to be and 164 01:05:05,301 --> 01:05:06,535 it's not yet available for 165 01:05:06,535 --> 01:05:07,336 purchase. Is that correct? 166 01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:09,171 It's available for purchase. The first is 167 01:05:09,171 --> 01:05:10,373 delivering this year. 168 01:05:10,940 --> 01:05:12,942 Gotcha. So they're just now rolling off 169 01:05:12,942 --> 01:05:15,411 of the factory floor and 170 01:05:15,411 --> 01:05:16,479 to their first customers. 171 01:05:17,013 --> 01:05:17,747 So the first production 172 01:05:17,747 --> 01:05:18,814 flight flew this year. 173 01:05:19,282 --> 01:05:20,616 It's now in completions and we're looking 174 01:05:20,616 --> 01:05:22,084 forward to deliver it to the first 175 01:05:22,084 --> 01:05:23,185 customer by the end of the year. 176 01:05:23,586 --> 01:05:25,054 So in terms of range, if we're talking 177 01:05:25,054 --> 01:05:26,956 about like the 6500, for instance, right? 178 01:05:27,323 --> 01:05:29,525 If I'm based on the West Coast and this 179 01:05:29,525 --> 01:05:31,927 is global, what are my options 180 01:05:32,094 --> 01:05:33,362 as far as where I can travel to? 181 01:05:33,562 --> 01:05:35,164 Well, a good a good example of what we 182 01:05:35,164 --> 01:05:37,566 did recently with the 7500, for instance, 183 01:05:37,566 --> 01:05:40,102 was a speed record from San Luis Obispo, 184 01:05:40,102 --> 01:05:42,972 California to London in about nine hours. 185 01:05:43,572 --> 01:05:45,274 So if you look at like the Global 6500, 186 01:05:45,541 --> 01:05:47,343 you're looking at, you know, 10, 12 hours 187 01:05:47,343 --> 01:05:49,412 of range, 7500, even longer. 188 01:05:49,645 --> 01:05:51,447 So this is these are just aircraft that 189 01:05:51,447 --> 01:05:52,949 at some point, you know, 190 01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:56,018 traveling in one way to go farther, 191 01:05:56,018 --> 01:05:57,586 you'd have to go basically the other way. 192 01:05:57,586 --> 01:05:58,688 It didn't go shorter because you can 193 01:05:58,688 --> 01:06:00,056 cover a lot of distance. 194 01:06:00,089 --> 01:06:01,524 But from London, for instance, on the 195 01:06:01,524 --> 01:06:03,326 Global 7500 and Global 8000, there's not 196 01:06:03,326 --> 01:06:04,827 many major cities you can't get to. 197 01:06:05,494 --> 01:06:07,863 You mentioned the and I'm gesturing here, 198 01:06:07,863 --> 01:06:10,066 it's off to the side, the partnership 199 01:06:10,066 --> 01:06:11,300 that you now have that you guys are 200 01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:12,068 excited to talk about. 201 01:06:12,068 --> 01:06:12,501 Can you tell me a 202 01:06:12,501 --> 01:06:13,269 little bit more about that? 203 01:06:13,736 --> 01:06:15,838 Yeah, so Bond is our newest customer. 204 01:06:16,339 --> 01:06:18,140 They've signed for 50 aircraft and 205 01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:19,942 they've also signed a first 206 01:06:19,942 --> 01:06:21,143 of a kind service agreement. 207 01:06:21,711 --> 01:06:23,179 So what we have is a full 208 01:06:23,179 --> 01:06:24,313 turnkey offering for them. 209 01:06:24,313 --> 01:06:25,381 You get the aircraft, you get 210 01:06:25,381 --> 01:06:27,850 maintenance, you get parts all in one 211 01:06:27,850 --> 01:06:29,218 contract that really makes it easier 212 01:06:29,452 --> 01:06:31,120 and more accessible for their customers. 213 01:06:31,654 --> 01:06:33,089 And we're proud to be able to offer that 214 01:06:33,089 --> 01:06:34,223 kind of full suite of services. 215 01:06:34,523 --> 01:06:36,959 So it's going to be innovative, first of 216 01:06:36,959 --> 01:06:37,960 its kind in the industry. 217 01:06:38,194 --> 01:06:39,795 And we're going to develop our service 218 01:06:39,795 --> 01:06:42,765 network to prepare for their 219 01:06:42,765 --> 01:06:44,734 entry into service in 2027. 220 01:06:45,301 --> 01:06:46,869 How important is the service part of the 221 01:06:46,869 --> 01:06:47,970 business for Bombardier? 222 01:06:48,003 --> 01:06:48,838 It's everything. 223 01:06:49,338 --> 01:06:50,673 So we want to make sure that, you know, 224 01:06:50,906 --> 01:06:52,641 aircraft are dispatch available, that we 225 01:06:52,641 --> 01:06:54,143 have parts everywhere we need to, 226 01:06:54,243 --> 01:06:56,212 that we're quickly doing turns in our 227 01:06:56,212 --> 01:06:57,580 service centers with really 228 01:06:57,580 --> 01:06:58,881 high skilled OEM technicians 229 01:06:59,048 --> 01:07:00,850 so that people can get their availability 230 01:07:00,850 --> 01:07:02,985 of aircraft absolutely optimized. 231 01:07:03,386 --> 01:07:05,054 And to do that, we've announced a really 232 01:07:05,054 --> 01:07:06,455 large expansion in the US. 233 01:07:06,756 --> 01:07:08,057 We finished a big wave of 234 01:07:08,057 --> 01:07:09,125 expansions around the world. 235 01:07:09,625 --> 01:07:10,626 So we've quadrupled our 236 01:07:10,626 --> 01:07:11,527 facility in Singapore. 237 01:07:11,794 --> 01:07:12,895 We've opened one in Melbourne. 238 01:07:13,396 --> 01:07:16,699 We've really gone big in Hill London. 239 01:07:17,099 --> 01:07:18,334 We're building a paint shop there, but 240 01:07:18,334 --> 01:07:19,402 now we're focusing on the US. 241 01:07:19,602 --> 01:07:20,369 So the first announcement 242 01:07:20,369 --> 01:07:22,405 came right before the show. 243 01:07:22,872 --> 01:07:24,774 We are setting up a new service facility 244 01:07:24,774 --> 01:07:26,575 in Fort Wayne, Indiana to really put 245 01:07:26,575 --> 01:07:27,343 ourselves right in the 246 01:07:27,343 --> 01:07:28,110 heart of the Midwest. 247 01:07:28,310 --> 01:07:29,412 So we cover that region. 248 01:07:29,678 --> 01:07:30,846 It's going to work very well with our 249 01:07:30,846 --> 01:07:33,282 main parts depot in Chicago, but then 250 01:07:33,282 --> 01:07:33,883 looking at more 251 01:07:33,883 --> 01:07:35,384 facilities to expand across the US. 252 01:07:35,751 --> 01:07:36,852 So it sounds like Fort Wayne is going to 253 01:07:36,852 --> 01:07:38,087 be a pretty big hub for 254 01:07:38,087 --> 01:07:39,688 things happening with Bombardier. 255 01:07:40,056 --> 01:07:40,356 Absolutely. 256 01:07:40,623 --> 01:07:42,892 And we're really going into the community 257 01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:44,360 now, starting to recruit technicians, 258 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,394 create a pipeline to 259 01:07:45,394 --> 01:07:46,429 create high skilled jobs. 260 01:07:46,429 --> 01:07:48,330 But that's kind of how we operate in all 261 01:07:48,330 --> 01:07:50,166 of the communities around the US. 262 01:07:50,166 --> 01:07:52,334 We try to have local relationships with 263 01:07:52,334 --> 01:07:54,703 schools to train technicians, keep the 264 01:07:54,703 --> 01:07:55,671 pipeline going because 265 01:07:55,671 --> 01:07:56,539 brick and mortar is great. 266 01:07:56,572 --> 01:07:57,973 But if there's no one to turn a wrench, 267 01:07:58,574 --> 01:08:00,009 we're not helping our customers more. 268 01:08:00,009 --> 01:08:01,243 So it's about convenience and care, and 269 01:08:01,243 --> 01:08:02,044 that starts with having the 270 01:08:02,044 --> 01:08:02,912 right people in our facilities. 271 01:08:03,746 --> 01:08:04,013 Awesome. 272 01:08:04,647 --> 01:08:06,415 And you said we can 273 01:08:06,415 --> 01:08:07,683 bend the wing on the 6500. 274 01:08:07,683 --> 01:08:08,384 Is that something we can 275 01:08:08,384 --> 01:08:09,385 go ahead and take a look at? 276 01:08:09,385 --> 01:08:10,152 Let's do it. 277 01:08:10,152 --> 01:08:10,486 All right. 278 01:08:11,153 --> 01:08:13,122 So flexible wings starts with the 279 01:08:13,122 --> 01:08:16,125 fundamental design of how Bombardier puts 280 01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:18,928 flexible mindsets into 281 01:08:18,928 --> 01:08:20,096 all wings for the global. 282 01:08:20,096 --> 01:08:22,565 That starts with having slats and flaps. 283 01:08:22,765 --> 01:08:24,467 I love that it's flexible mindsets, too. 284 01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:25,568 It's like we want to stay 285 01:08:25,568 --> 01:08:26,969 flexible in our approach to things. 286 01:08:27,169 --> 01:08:28,003 Why is it flexible? 287 01:08:28,204 --> 01:08:29,472 What's the reasoning for this? 288 01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:30,739 It has to be flexible so 289 01:08:30,739 --> 01:08:31,607 you have the smoothest ride. 290 01:08:32,007 --> 01:08:34,210 So if the wing absorbs turbulence, the 291 01:08:34,210 --> 01:08:35,945 turbulence doesn't translate into the 292 01:08:35,945 --> 01:08:36,812 cabin for the passengers. 293 01:08:37,213 --> 01:08:39,648 So all the way to just holding your 294 01:08:39,648 --> 01:08:42,351 drinks in a more comfortable way, to 295 01:08:42,351 --> 01:08:45,454 helping passengers, animals, just have a 296 01:08:45,454 --> 01:08:46,422 smoother ride throughout 297 01:08:46,422 --> 01:08:47,656 the entirety of the flight. 298 01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:49,125 It's something that's fundamental. 299 01:08:49,592 --> 01:08:52,461 And if you miss it at the design level of 300 01:08:52,461 --> 01:08:54,663 the plane, you can't make up for it. 301 01:08:54,663 --> 01:08:56,499 So if you don't have this, it's just a 302 01:08:56,499 --> 01:08:57,399 rougher ride and it 303 01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:58,434 just kind of sucks, right? 304 01:08:58,434 --> 01:08:58,634 Exactly. 305 01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:00,636 And it's impossible to have without slats 306 01:09:00,636 --> 01:09:02,371 because you have to have an optimized 307 01:09:02,371 --> 01:09:03,939 wing, which is small and 308 01:09:03,939 --> 01:09:05,274 slender for high-speed crews. 309 01:09:05,674 --> 01:09:07,176 But then for low-speed performance, you 310 01:09:07,176 --> 01:09:08,677 really need to make that wing as possible 311 01:09:08,677 --> 01:09:10,646 to land, especially in steep approach 312 01:09:10,646 --> 01:09:12,915 airports like Lugano or when you're 313 01:09:12,915 --> 01:09:14,149 trying to get into London City. 314 01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:15,351 So that's where the slats 315 01:09:15,351 --> 01:09:16,452 and flaps really come in. 316 01:09:16,952 --> 01:09:19,288 The next level of it is on the Global 317 01:09:19,288 --> 01:09:21,223 7500, where because of the size of the 318 01:09:21,223 --> 01:09:22,758 aircraft, the wing is much bigger. 319 01:09:23,259 --> 01:09:25,094 So what we've done on the 7500 is 320 01:09:25,094 --> 01:09:27,163 actually split the outboard aileron. 321 01:09:27,630 --> 01:09:29,698 So when it's at high speed, only a part 322 01:09:29,698 --> 01:09:31,000 of it will move so that the 323 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,234 wing could continue to flex. 324 01:09:33,102 --> 01:09:35,237 So that's just how we think about 325 01:09:35,237 --> 01:09:36,839 passenger comfort, but it goes all the 326 01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:37,573 way into wing design. 327 01:09:38,107 --> 01:09:39,909 Nice. So we can see that flex just 328 01:09:39,909 --> 01:09:40,643 standing here, right? 329 01:09:40,809 --> 01:09:42,244 So I can flex it a little 330 01:09:42,244 --> 01:09:43,546 bit with just one finger. 331 01:09:43,546 --> 01:09:43,812 Yeah. 332 01:09:43,846 --> 01:09:45,414 So you really just get that little push 333 01:09:45,414 --> 01:09:47,316 on it and you see the wing starts to go. 334 01:09:48,050 --> 01:09:49,418 But if you really want 335 01:09:49,418 --> 01:09:50,953 to have at it, go for it. 336 01:09:51,186 --> 01:09:51,554 All right. 337 01:09:51,921 --> 01:09:52,922 Watching that flex. 338 01:09:54,323 --> 01:09:54,823 Pretty good. 339 01:09:55,291 --> 01:09:55,691 Pretty good. 340 01:09:56,292 --> 01:09:58,027 And all of that reduces turbulence for 341 01:09:58,027 --> 01:09:58,727 the passengers inside. 342 01:09:59,194 --> 01:10:00,563 Because inside, if you look down the 343 01:10:00,563 --> 01:10:02,865 wing, there's not much movement, right? 344 01:10:02,865 --> 01:10:03,566 It's all out here. 345 01:10:03,866 --> 01:10:04,066 Exactly. 346 01:10:04,767 --> 01:10:05,467 So that's the whole idea. 347 01:10:05,668 --> 01:10:06,835 Can I do this? 348 01:10:06,835 --> 01:10:07,303 Can I like? 349 01:10:07,303 --> 01:10:07,503 Please. 350 01:10:07,770 --> 01:10:07,970 Okay. 351 01:10:08,304 --> 01:10:10,773 So if I'm messing with it, like I'm the 352 01:10:10,773 --> 01:10:12,541 air, I'm the cloud, right? 353 01:10:12,541 --> 01:10:13,175 I'm the turbulence. 354 01:10:14,443 --> 01:10:15,544 They aren't feeling it in there. 355 01:10:15,844 --> 01:10:16,045 Exactly. 356 01:10:16,212 --> 01:10:16,412 Correct. 357 01:10:16,712 --> 01:10:16,912 Nice. 358 01:10:17,346 --> 01:10:17,546 Cool. 359 01:10:18,013 --> 01:10:18,781 So yeah, wing flex. 360 01:10:19,281 --> 01:10:21,584 It's something that will give you a 361 01:10:21,584 --> 01:10:22,818 better ride and a smoother ride. 362 01:10:23,052 --> 01:10:23,752 So that's something, if 363 01:10:23,752 --> 01:10:24,520 you're going to own the jet, 364 01:10:25,321 --> 01:10:26,722 might be something you want to consider 365 01:10:26,722 --> 01:10:28,490 as you're looking at jets to own, right? 366 01:10:28,557 --> 01:10:29,225 Definitely want to 367 01:10:29,225 --> 01:10:30,392 check, do I have slats? 368 01:10:30,926 --> 01:10:31,794 Do I have slats? 369 01:10:32,094 --> 01:10:32,494 Slats. 370 01:10:33,028 --> 01:10:34,163 Just like a smooth-- 371 01:10:34,163 --> 01:10:35,164 Only bombardier has them. 372 01:10:35,164 --> 01:10:35,531 Yeah. 373 01:10:35,531 --> 01:10:36,999 Just like having a smooth bed, you want 374 01:10:36,999 --> 01:10:39,034 to smooth slats with that too. 375 01:10:39,268 --> 01:10:39,501 Okay. 376 01:10:39,802 --> 01:10:40,002 Nice. 377 01:10:40,336 --> 01:10:40,536 Cool. 378 01:10:40,769 --> 01:10:41,604 Mark, thanks again, man. 379 01:10:41,904 --> 01:10:42,404 Thanks for stopping by. 380 01:10:50,012 --> 01:10:51,447 I'm here with Aaron White from Aspen Aero 381 01:10:51,447 --> 01:10:54,116 Group, and Aaron works with people to buy 382 01:10:54,116 --> 01:10:56,051 and sell and work on the transaction of 383 01:10:56,051 --> 01:10:57,586 the jet itself and the 384 01:10:57,586 --> 01:10:58,354 purchasing of the jet. 385 01:10:59,321 --> 01:11:00,723 Aaron, what are you excited to see here 386 01:11:00,723 --> 01:11:01,490 at the static today? 387 01:11:02,324 --> 01:11:04,093 Well, I'd love to see the new 388 01:11:04,093 --> 01:11:05,861 manufacturers, what they're releasing, 389 01:11:06,462 --> 01:11:08,731 whether it's actually out right now or if 390 01:11:08,731 --> 01:11:09,732 they've just unveiled it. 391 01:11:10,466 --> 01:11:11,800 So, yeah, excited to see some of the 392 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,335 bigger manufacturers of Gulf Streams, 393 01:11:13,335 --> 01:11:14,236 Bombardier aircraft, 394 01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:16,338 obviously Falcon's got a nice bird, 395 01:11:17,206 --> 01:11:18,974 but also just enjoy kind of seeing some 396 01:11:18,974 --> 01:11:20,809 of the more unique aircrafts. 397 01:11:20,809 --> 01:11:21,510 We've got the Husker over here. 398 01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:22,945 Falcon's got a nice bird. 399 01:11:23,145 --> 01:11:23,712 Yes, sir. 400 01:11:24,146 --> 01:11:24,546 I love it. 401 01:11:24,546 --> 01:11:25,214 They like to fly. 402 01:11:25,914 --> 01:11:27,349 But yeah, no, it's good to get out here, 403 01:11:27,349 --> 01:11:28,384 good to get exposure, good 404 01:11:28,384 --> 01:11:29,952 to get on these aircrafts. 405 01:11:29,952 --> 01:11:31,587 It's easier to advise clients once you've 406 01:11:31,587 --> 01:11:32,988 sat in it, you understand, hey, 407 01:11:33,222 --> 01:11:35,524 you might need a little bit taller, or 408 01:11:35,524 --> 01:11:37,059 you kind of learn the specs of it, 409 01:11:37,059 --> 01:11:38,293 you kind of get the feel of it. 410 01:11:38,394 --> 01:11:40,396 So it helps with, you know, showing the 411 01:11:40,396 --> 01:11:42,197 client where to go and what their mission 412 01:11:42,197 --> 01:11:43,265 is and what makes sense. 413 01:11:43,732 --> 01:11:44,266 All right, great. 414 01:11:44,266 --> 01:11:44,933 So we were able to track 415 01:11:44,933 --> 01:11:46,235 down Trevor here with Epic, 416 01:11:46,468 --> 01:11:48,170 and Trevor's going to talk to us about 417 01:11:48,170 --> 01:11:49,505 what Epic has going on at base. 418 01:11:50,673 --> 01:11:53,375 Behind me, we have one of their, what 419 01:11:53,375 --> 01:11:54,710 model of plane is this? 420 01:11:54,710 --> 01:11:56,412 This is the E1000AX. 421 01:11:56,912 --> 01:11:58,414 So it's our latest version of 422 01:11:58,414 --> 01:12:00,716 the E1000 line of airplanes. 423 01:12:01,283 --> 01:12:03,485 It's the fastest single engine certified 424 01:12:03,485 --> 01:12:04,520 airplane you can buy. 425 01:12:05,154 --> 01:12:06,255 Also the highest flying. 426 01:12:06,889 --> 01:12:08,290 Fully carbon fiber 427 01:12:08,290 --> 01:12:09,992 construction, which is kind of unique. 428 01:12:10,259 --> 01:12:10,459 Right. 429 01:12:10,626 --> 01:12:12,494 So when you say highest flying, how high? 430 01:12:13,028 --> 01:12:14,129 34,000. 431 01:12:14,396 --> 01:12:14,797 34,000. 432 01:12:15,230 --> 01:12:15,964 With a speed of? 433 01:12:16,965 --> 01:12:19,635 We're typically cruising about 320 knots 434 01:12:19,635 --> 01:12:21,804 at 34,000 at a high speed cruise. 435 01:12:22,071 --> 01:12:22,805 What kind of range are 436 01:12:22,805 --> 01:12:23,505 you getting out of it? 437 01:12:24,273 --> 01:12:26,608 Figure at a high speed, we're going to be 438 01:12:26,608 --> 01:12:28,243 about 1200 nautical miles. 439 01:12:28,477 --> 01:12:29,745 That'll leave you an hour reserve. 440 01:12:30,412 --> 01:12:31,280 And you can do that with six 441 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,881 people on board, which is... 442 01:12:32,881 --> 01:12:34,450 So putting that into hours, that's what? 443 01:12:34,717 --> 01:12:35,617 Three and a half? 444 01:12:35,617 --> 01:12:35,984 Three-four-five? 445 01:12:36,151 --> 01:12:39,455 Yeah, figure about four hours of range 446 01:12:39,455 --> 01:12:41,890 with an hour of reserve. 447 01:12:42,291 --> 01:12:42,491 Good. 448 01:12:43,025 --> 01:12:43,692 Connectivity? 449 01:12:44,927 --> 01:12:48,063 Yeah, we have Starlink Wi-Fi on board. 450 01:12:48,931 --> 01:12:51,266 So, yep, I think we're the first ones to 451 01:12:51,266 --> 01:12:52,334 certify an external 452 01:12:52,334 --> 01:12:54,169 installation of that system. 453 01:12:54,369 --> 01:12:55,304 So it's a big advantage. 454 01:12:56,372 --> 01:12:56,772 Passenger profiles. 455 01:12:57,106 --> 01:12:58,707 So what, how many are 456 01:12:58,707 --> 01:12:59,375 you getting in here? 457 01:12:59,675 --> 01:12:59,875 And... 458 01:13:00,109 --> 01:13:02,144 Yeah, it's sixth place. 459 01:13:02,511 --> 01:13:05,013 And that pic was really designed to be 460 01:13:05,013 --> 01:13:06,415 comfortable for bigger people. 461 01:13:06,648 --> 01:13:07,683 So we get six people in it. 462 01:13:07,683 --> 01:13:08,684 Can we take their bags too? 463 01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:09,985 Yeah, you can. 464 01:13:09,985 --> 01:13:11,053 They can each have one. 465 01:13:11,787 --> 01:13:15,124 And that, I guess, would be what you 466 01:13:15,124 --> 01:13:15,991 would call a limitation 467 01:13:15,991 --> 01:13:17,626 of a smaller aircraft is 468 01:13:17,826 --> 01:13:20,729 you don't have an airliner-sized baggage 469 01:13:20,729 --> 01:13:21,663 compartment in there. 470 01:13:21,897 --> 01:13:24,032 But it very nicely fits. 471 01:13:24,233 --> 01:13:25,134 I don't know if you can see the little 472 01:13:25,134 --> 01:13:26,335 stack of bags back there, 473 01:13:26,335 --> 01:13:27,569 but six rollerboards all 474 01:13:27,569 --> 01:13:28,871 fit back behind the seat. 475 01:13:28,971 --> 01:13:31,473 This is a utility category airplane at 476 01:13:31,473 --> 01:13:32,908 its 8,000 pound gross 477 01:13:32,908 --> 01:13:34,710 weight, which is very rare. 478 01:13:35,144 --> 01:13:36,311 So, immensely strong. 479 01:13:36,745 --> 01:13:38,013 So depending on your mission, this might 480 01:13:38,013 --> 01:13:39,148 be the perfect fifth for 481 01:13:39,148 --> 01:13:40,416 somebody that might think 482 01:13:40,416 --> 01:13:43,118 they need something with more range or 483 01:13:43,118 --> 01:13:44,319 bigger or what have you. 484 01:13:44,319 --> 01:13:45,287 Yeah. But this might be a 485 01:13:45,287 --> 01:13:46,455 great way to get into it. 486 01:13:46,455 --> 01:13:46,889 Well, it's a great 487 01:13:46,889 --> 01:13:48,223 entry-level airplane, right? 488 01:13:48,223 --> 01:13:49,258 I mean, what you have here. 489 01:13:49,491 --> 01:13:51,093 So first-time buyers just 490 01:13:51,093 --> 01:13:52,227 kind of starting out slow. 491 01:13:52,427 --> 01:13:54,930 This would be a great machine for them. 492 01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:59,735 Or pilots that have other businesses and 493 01:13:59,735 --> 01:14:01,737 flying isn't their main career. 494 01:14:02,037 --> 01:14:03,071 I would say that-- 495 01:14:03,071 --> 01:14:03,672 They could have one. 496 01:14:04,106 --> 01:14:07,743 Probably about half of our owners are 497 01:14:07,743 --> 01:14:09,344 moving up out of piston 498 01:14:09,344 --> 01:14:11,246 aircraft and advancing their 499 01:14:11,246 --> 01:14:12,648 flying and their capabilities. 500 01:14:13,615 --> 01:14:15,083 Probably a quarter of our owners are 501 01:14:15,083 --> 01:14:16,518 moving down out of bigger aircraft. 502 01:14:16,885 --> 01:14:18,854 So say coming out of a Phenom or out of a 503 01:14:18,854 --> 01:14:20,389 Premier jet or a Citation jet, 504 01:14:21,056 --> 01:14:22,624 because maybe they're 505 01:14:22,624 --> 01:14:23,692 moving into retirement. 506 01:14:24,126 --> 01:14:24,927 They don't have the same 507 01:14:24,927 --> 01:14:27,029 travel needs they had before. 508 01:14:27,029 --> 01:14:27,696 They don't have as many 509 01:14:27,696 --> 01:14:28,664 people to carry around. 510 01:14:29,398 --> 01:14:30,466 This is easy to fly. 511 01:14:30,666 --> 01:14:33,669 They can be insured to fly it at a much 512 01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:35,037 older age because it is 513 01:14:35,037 --> 01:14:36,371 a turboprop versus a jet. 514 01:14:36,805 --> 01:14:39,074 So a lot of advantage is there, but 515 01:14:39,074 --> 01:14:40,008 they're not giving up 516 01:14:40,409 --> 01:14:42,344 what they were used to and capability 517 01:14:42,344 --> 01:14:43,712 from those bigger aircraft. 518 01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:47,049 And then I'd say the other quarter are 519 01:14:47,049 --> 01:14:49,351 what people are making lateral moves. 520 01:14:49,685 --> 01:14:51,453 Maybe coming out of some of our direct 521 01:14:51,453 --> 01:14:52,554 competitors into the 522 01:14:52,554 --> 01:14:53,989 Epic now that they're 523 01:14:54,156 --> 01:14:57,459 ready to trade in or retire their current 524 01:14:57,459 --> 01:14:59,094 version of a single engine turboprop. 525 01:14:59,995 --> 01:15:01,830 So what about Return to Land? 526 01:15:02,331 --> 01:15:03,232 Do you have Return to Land? 527 01:15:04,233 --> 01:15:06,568 Under its many names, we just call it 528 01:15:06,568 --> 01:15:07,369 what Garmin calls it, 529 01:15:07,369 --> 01:15:08,070 which is out of land. 530 01:15:08,303 --> 01:15:10,906 So yeah, Emergency out of Land is 531 01:15:10,906 --> 01:15:12,407 included in that five 532 01:15:12,407 --> 01:15:13,976 great 1 million dollar price. 533 01:15:13,976 --> 01:15:14,743 I have no idea what you 534 01:15:14,743 --> 01:15:15,544 guys are talking about. 535 01:15:15,544 --> 01:15:17,412 Our Return to Land, it sounds like the 536 01:15:17,412 --> 01:15:18,647 plane's going to land. 537 01:15:19,348 --> 01:15:20,549 As bad as you push it. 538 01:15:20,816 --> 01:15:21,316 Yeah, basically. 539 01:15:21,817 --> 01:15:22,317 Yeah, yeah. 540 01:15:22,317 --> 01:15:26,054 So essentially, we've 541 01:15:26,054 --> 01:15:28,223 upgraded this to have auto throttle. 542 01:15:28,490 --> 01:15:30,425 So Garmin's auto throttle manages the 543 01:15:30,425 --> 01:15:31,260 power on the engine. 544 01:15:32,394 --> 01:15:34,029 And there's some additional components 545 01:15:34,029 --> 01:15:36,565 they put in for an auto braking module, 546 01:15:37,165 --> 01:15:39,268 some relays that control gear and flaps 547 01:15:39,268 --> 01:15:40,836 and those sorts of things. 548 01:15:41,036 --> 01:15:43,138 And then all of that together enables 549 01:15:43,138 --> 01:15:45,674 their emergency auto land system, which 550 01:15:46,308 --> 01:15:49,444 if the pilot were to become incapacitated 551 01:15:49,444 --> 01:15:51,046 or unable to continue 552 01:15:51,046 --> 01:15:53,148 flying a passenger can push a 553 01:15:53,148 --> 01:15:54,416 button that the airplane 554 01:15:54,416 --> 01:15:55,617 is the take me home button. 555 01:15:55,918 --> 01:15:56,518 Yep, exactly. 556 01:15:56,985 --> 01:15:57,386 I love it. 557 01:15:57,386 --> 01:15:59,454 And the airplane actually makes decisions 558 01:15:59,454 --> 01:16:00,822 and makes emergency calls. 559 01:16:01,089 --> 01:16:03,425 It goes and picks an airport, voids 560 01:16:03,425 --> 01:16:06,295 weather and lands the aircraft safely. 561 01:16:06,728 --> 01:16:08,764 So sounds like a fun time. 562 01:16:08,764 --> 01:16:09,631 Yeah, absolutely. 563 01:16:10,265 --> 01:16:11,833 Real quick, manufactured where? 564 01:16:12,701 --> 01:16:13,302 Manufactured in the 565 01:16:13,302 --> 01:16:14,803 US and bend to Oregon. 566 01:16:15,370 --> 01:16:16,171 American made. 567 01:16:16,738 --> 01:16:17,005 Nice. 568 01:16:17,506 --> 01:16:18,106 Love it, Trevor. 569 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:18,807 Thank you so much for 570 01:16:18,807 --> 01:16:20,008 talking to us on On the Jet. 571 01:16:20,609 --> 01:16:21,710 And I hope you have a good 572 01:16:21,710 --> 01:16:22,511 time with the rest of base. 573 01:16:22,511 --> 01:16:23,345 Absolutely, sir. 574 01:16:23,345 --> 01:16:23,979 Thank you for your time. 575 01:16:24,179 --> 01:16:24,813 All right, awesome. 576 01:16:25,047 --> 01:16:26,915 All right, I got Dante here from Aspen. 577 01:16:26,915 --> 01:16:28,684 And Dante is an aircraft broker. 578 01:16:29,051 --> 01:16:29,918 Dante, what are you 579 01:16:29,918 --> 01:16:31,086 excited to see at base this year? 580 01:16:31,954 --> 01:16:32,387 Everything. 581 01:16:32,721 --> 01:16:34,456 Like this is just an incredible event 582 01:16:34,456 --> 01:16:35,624 getting to get hands on 583 01:16:35,624 --> 01:16:36,458 with a lot of the different 584 01:16:36,458 --> 01:16:38,627 jets that are out on the market and learn 585 01:16:38,627 --> 01:16:39,995 about what sets different 586 01:16:39,995 --> 01:16:41,330 manufacturers apart from 587 01:16:41,363 --> 01:16:44,266 everybody else and identifying key 588 01:16:44,266 --> 01:16:45,334 features that will be 589 01:16:45,334 --> 01:16:46,435 important for my clients. 590 01:16:47,269 --> 01:16:47,469 Nice. 591 01:16:47,536 --> 01:16:49,304 So I noticed there's a lot of parties, a 592 01:16:49,304 --> 01:16:51,006 lot of events, a lot of things for people 593 01:16:51,006 --> 01:16:51,907 to get to know each other. 594 01:16:51,907 --> 01:16:52,574 How important is that 595 01:16:52,574 --> 01:16:53,275 aspect of the business? 596 01:16:53,675 --> 01:16:54,576 Oh, hugely important. 597 01:16:55,310 --> 01:16:56,945 Relationships is a big part of this. 598 01:16:57,779 --> 01:16:59,247 Being able to know and trust the 599 01:16:59,247 --> 01:16:59,881 individuals that you're 600 01:16:59,881 --> 01:17:01,883 working with is a key thing. 601 01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:05,354 So being able to meet up and have more 602 01:17:05,354 --> 01:17:06,088 intimate conversations 603 01:17:06,088 --> 01:17:07,756 because being on an exhibit floor, 604 01:17:08,724 --> 01:17:09,658 you're kind of limited 605 01:17:09,658 --> 01:17:10,726 on the time that you have. 606 01:17:10,726 --> 01:17:12,027 But being able to go out to those social 607 01:17:12,027 --> 01:17:12,828 events and being able 608 01:17:12,828 --> 01:17:13,895 to really dig in and 609 01:17:13,929 --> 01:17:15,597 get to know them for who they are and 610 01:17:15,597 --> 01:17:18,233 more than just their elevator 611 01:17:18,233 --> 01:17:21,136 pitch on their products is a 612 01:17:21,136 --> 01:17:21,670 big deal. 613 01:17:21,903 --> 01:17:24,206 So if I'm looking to own a jet, it sounds 614 01:17:24,206 --> 01:17:25,407 like I want to work 615 01:17:25,407 --> 01:17:26,174 with somebody that has 616 01:17:26,174 --> 01:17:27,376 these kind of relationships. 617 01:17:28,010 --> 01:17:30,512 And if they're not at base, maybe they 618 01:17:30,512 --> 01:17:31,947 don't have those kind of relationships. 619 01:17:31,947 --> 01:17:34,116 So I'm thinking out loud here as somebody 620 01:17:34,116 --> 01:17:35,150 that might want to own a jet, 621 01:17:35,183 --> 01:17:37,185 I probably want to work with somebody 622 01:17:37,185 --> 01:17:38,487 that's at these types of 623 01:17:38,487 --> 01:17:40,288 events that knows the right 624 01:17:40,288 --> 01:17:41,757 people in order to make sure that my 625 01:17:41,757 --> 01:17:42,924 transaction goes smooth 626 01:17:42,924 --> 01:17:43,992 and that I'm taken care of. 627 01:17:44,526 --> 01:17:44,726 Absolutely. 628 01:17:45,927 --> 01:17:48,730 As in anything, whether it's sales or 629 01:17:48,730 --> 01:17:49,364 personal life, 630 01:17:49,664 --> 01:17:51,767 relationships speak volumes to people. 631 01:17:52,034 --> 01:17:53,969 So if you can say that you know and trust 632 01:17:53,969 --> 01:17:54,870 an individual and you 633 01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:56,438 speak from a place of 634 01:17:57,105 --> 01:17:59,808 integrity, then that'll carry you far. 635 01:18:00,509 --> 01:18:00,776 Nice. 636 01:18:01,743 --> 01:18:04,279 As far as the different displays and jets 637 01:18:04,279 --> 01:18:05,147 and things that are out 638 01:18:05,147 --> 01:18:07,649 here at the static here at 639 01:18:07,649 --> 01:18:09,718 base, is there anything that you're just 640 01:18:09,718 --> 01:18:10,619 chomping at the bit to see? 641 01:18:10,619 --> 01:18:12,054 Is there anything that you're just like, 642 01:18:12,054 --> 01:18:13,455 man, it's pretty cool to 643 01:18:13,455 --> 01:18:14,823 know that this is here? 644 01:18:15,257 --> 01:18:15,690 Yeah. 645 01:18:15,690 --> 01:18:17,325 I mean, there's a lot of things here, 646 01:18:17,325 --> 01:18:18,527 like anything from Bombardier. 647 01:18:18,860 --> 01:18:20,662 Like I'm a huge fan of their stuff. 648 01:18:20,662 --> 01:18:21,096 Pilatus. 649 01:18:22,864 --> 01:18:25,033 Honda Jet is a great company too. 650 01:18:25,033 --> 01:18:27,235 But we're constantly working with people 651 01:18:27,235 --> 01:18:29,271 who are looking more in that mid-market. 652 01:18:29,304 --> 01:18:31,139 That's why Bombardier is one that I'm 653 01:18:31,139 --> 01:18:31,873 really excited to be 654 01:18:31,873 --> 01:18:34,409 able to get inside of and be 655 01:18:34,409 --> 01:18:35,977 able to talk with them and learn more 656 01:18:35,977 --> 01:18:37,112 about what they've got coming. 657 01:18:37,746 --> 01:18:37,913 Nice. 658 01:18:37,913 --> 01:18:38,346 So hopefully we'll 659 01:18:38,346 --> 01:18:39,247 get a chance to do that. 660 01:18:39,581 --> 01:18:40,749 Dante, thank you so much for talking to 661 01:18:40,749 --> 01:18:42,451 me and look forward to 662 01:18:42,451 --> 01:18:43,151 seeing you more at base. 663 01:18:43,285 --> 01:18:43,518 Yeah. 664 01:18:43,518 --> 01:18:44,119 Thanks for having me on. 665 01:18:52,227 --> 01:18:53,695 We're about halfway through day two here. 666 01:18:53,695 --> 01:18:56,064 The static was a lot of fun, but we have 667 01:18:56,064 --> 01:18:57,032 come back to the trade show. 668 01:18:57,032 --> 01:18:58,467 There's a lot of people at the trade show 669 01:18:58,467 --> 01:18:59,167 on the trade show floor 670 01:18:59,167 --> 01:19:00,235 that we still need to talk to. 671 01:19:00,535 --> 01:19:02,003 So we are going to go see 672 01:19:02,003 --> 01:19:03,839 what else base has to offer. 673 01:19:04,506 --> 01:19:06,908 So NBAA is all about aviation. 674 01:19:06,908 --> 01:19:08,844 Apparently somebody brought a spaceship. 675 01:19:08,844 --> 01:19:11,313 So we're here talking to Adam from 676 01:19:11,313 --> 01:19:14,750 OTTO Aerospace about the- 677 01:19:15,083 --> 01:19:16,451 is it the Phantom 3500? 678 01:19:16,451 --> 01:19:17,352 Phantom 3500, yes. 679 01:19:17,819 --> 01:19:18,854 Dude, you have to tell me about this 680 01:19:18,854 --> 01:19:20,088 because this thing looks insane. 681 01:19:20,088 --> 01:19:21,890 It doesn't have any-- there's no like 682 01:19:21,890 --> 01:19:23,759 visible doors, windows panels. 683 01:19:24,025 --> 01:19:25,827 It's like Flight of the 684 01:19:25,827 --> 01:19:26,862 Navigator or something, right? 685 01:19:27,429 --> 01:19:28,930 So yeah, tell me about it. 686 01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:29,231 Yeah. 687 01:19:29,231 --> 01:19:30,599 So we're with OTTO Aerospace, 688 01:19:30,599 --> 01:19:32,167 and this is our Phantom 3500. 689 01:19:32,167 --> 01:19:33,668 It's our launch product. 690 01:19:33,668 --> 01:19:34,736 It's our first aircraft 691 01:19:34,736 --> 01:19:35,670 that we'll come out with. 692 01:19:36,705 --> 01:19:37,439 And while not a 693 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,007 spaceship, we do fly a lot higher. 694 01:19:39,241 --> 01:19:40,976 So we fly at about 51,000 feet. 695 01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:42,911 So you know, you go westbound, you're 696 01:19:42,911 --> 01:19:43,745 going over the jet stream. 697 01:19:43,745 --> 01:19:45,514 But our total mission here at 698 01:19:45,514 --> 01:19:46,915 OTTO Aerospace is using 699 01:19:46,915 --> 01:19:48,183 what's called laminar flow, 700 01:19:48,183 --> 01:19:49,584 which is the orderly flow 701 01:19:49,584 --> 01:19:52,020 of a fluid over a surface. 702 01:19:52,487 --> 01:19:52,754 Right? 703 01:19:52,754 --> 01:19:53,755 In this case, it's air. 704 01:19:53,788 --> 01:19:55,724 And what that allows us to do is we take 705 01:19:55,724 --> 01:19:57,159 the energy required for 706 01:19:57,159 --> 01:19:58,793 flight out by about 50%. 707 01:19:59,561 --> 01:20:01,129 So when you do that, what you get is 708 01:20:01,129 --> 01:20:02,230 instead of what-- sometimes 709 01:20:02,230 --> 01:20:03,431 you hear of a vicious cycle. 710 01:20:03,765 --> 01:20:05,133 We have what's called a virtuous cycle. 711 01:20:05,367 --> 01:20:06,701 So everything starts to get lighter. 712 01:20:06,701 --> 01:20:08,136 So if you see our engines on there, 713 01:20:08,136 --> 01:20:10,172 they're Williams FJ44-4 engines. 714 01:20:10,572 --> 01:20:12,807 They've got about 13, 14 million hours of 715 01:20:12,807 --> 01:20:14,109 operational space out there. 716 01:20:14,676 --> 01:20:15,577 They look really small 717 01:20:15,577 --> 01:20:17,012 on an aircraft this size. 718 01:20:17,012 --> 01:20:18,146 And that's intentional, right? 719 01:20:18,146 --> 01:20:20,148 We don't need the propulsion that you 720 01:20:20,148 --> 01:20:21,149 would normally need for 721 01:20:21,149 --> 01:20:22,784 an aircraft of this size, 722 01:20:23,118 --> 01:20:25,420 because we cut that weight down in half. 723 01:20:25,420 --> 01:20:26,521 So it's a super-mid aircraft. 724 01:20:26,788 --> 01:20:28,223 It's a max range 3500 725 01:20:28,223 --> 01:20:29,357 nautical mile aircraft. 726 01:20:29,925 --> 01:20:31,092 But instead of being about 40,000 to 727 01:20:31,092 --> 01:20:32,994 42,000 pounds max takeoff weight, 728 01:20:33,228 --> 01:20:34,462 we're at 19,000 729 01:20:34,462 --> 01:20:35,864 pounds max takeoff weight. 730 01:20:36,298 --> 01:20:37,065 So when you look at that 731 01:20:37,065 --> 01:20:38,733 overall weight of the aircraft, 732 01:20:38,733 --> 01:20:41,236 we're roughly half of what others in this 733 01:20:41,236 --> 01:20:43,772 space, in this Supermid category, are. 734 01:20:44,072 --> 01:20:46,208 I can imagine it takes a lot less fuel. 735 01:20:46,441 --> 01:20:47,676 And that's a big 736 01:20:47,676 --> 01:20:49,811 expense with flying private. 737 01:20:50,111 --> 01:20:51,213 You have to pay for a lot of fuel. 738 01:20:51,213 --> 01:20:51,479 Absolutely. 739 01:20:51,746 --> 01:20:55,984 So compared to competitors in that space, 740 01:20:55,984 --> 01:20:56,685 in the Supermid space, 741 01:20:56,985 --> 01:20:58,987 we're about 60% more fuel efficient. 742 01:20:59,754 --> 01:21:01,389 So you have massive reduction in fuel. 743 01:21:01,890 --> 01:21:02,791 You also have about 744 01:21:02,791 --> 01:21:04,859 overall operating costs, 745 01:21:04,859 --> 01:21:05,460 the direct operating 746 01:21:05,460 --> 01:21:06,494 costs on an hourly basis, 747 01:21:06,795 --> 01:21:09,164 of about 40% less, including fuel, 748 01:21:09,164 --> 01:21:09,931 maintenance, et cetera. 749 01:21:10,465 --> 01:21:13,568 The other benefit of it is, from a 750 01:21:13,568 --> 01:21:14,669 sustainability perspective, 751 01:21:14,669 --> 01:21:15,470 you're cutting out a 752 01:21:15,470 --> 01:21:17,505 huge amount of fuel, right? 753 01:21:17,839 --> 01:21:19,274 We also fly higher. 754 01:21:19,274 --> 01:21:20,308 So we fly at 51,000 feet. 755 01:21:20,308 --> 01:21:21,209 When you start to get up 756 01:21:21,209 --> 01:21:23,144 towards 51,000, 53,000 feet, 757 01:21:23,645 --> 01:21:24,613 contrails start to go away. 758 01:21:25,513 --> 01:21:27,048 And when you start to limit at contrails, 759 01:21:27,048 --> 01:21:28,783 you're not only limiting emissions from 760 01:21:28,783 --> 01:21:29,584 the propulsion system, 761 01:21:29,851 --> 01:21:32,220 but you're also affecting the overall 762 01:21:32,220 --> 01:21:35,557 global warming effect from the aircraft. 763 01:21:35,557 --> 01:21:36,891 When you start to lose those contrails, 764 01:21:37,192 --> 01:21:39,060 if we fly 100% SAF in the engine, which 765 01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:39,895 the engine is rated for, 766 01:21:40,328 --> 01:21:41,363 and you fly at that altitude, 767 01:21:41,563 --> 01:21:43,732 you can eliminate the global warming 768 01:21:43,732 --> 01:21:46,334 effect by about 97% on that flight. 769 01:21:46,334 --> 01:21:47,469 So it's truly astounding. 770 01:21:47,869 --> 01:21:49,070 And you can do it where 771 01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:49,904 it's still cost effective. 772 01:21:49,904 --> 01:21:51,373 Without the contrails, how are you 773 01:21:51,373 --> 01:21:52,307 supposed to continue to 774 01:21:52,307 --> 01:21:53,208 control people's minds? 775 01:21:55,110 --> 01:21:55,644 It's very difficult. 776 01:21:55,844 --> 01:21:57,212 We haven't released that secret yet. 777 01:21:57,612 --> 01:21:58,313 Okay, okay. 778 01:21:58,313 --> 01:21:59,147 We're going to get to that. 779 01:21:59,281 --> 01:21:59,981 That's next. 780 01:21:59,981 --> 01:22:00,682 Okay, okay. 781 01:22:01,283 --> 01:22:02,751 So who's this for? 782 01:22:02,951 --> 01:22:06,588 Who's the market for this jet? 783 01:22:06,988 --> 01:22:07,689 Yeah, so our first 784 01:22:07,689 --> 01:22:09,691 product, the Phantom 3500, 785 01:22:09,691 --> 01:22:10,292 we've just gone 786 01:22:10,292 --> 01:22:11,893 announced with our great partner 787 01:22:11,893 --> 01:22:14,062 and our launch customer, FlexJet, 788 01:22:14,462 --> 01:22:15,897 who is a fractional service. 789 01:22:16,231 --> 01:22:18,466 And this is a business jet market. 790 01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:20,468 And that is where we're starting, under 791 01:22:20,468 --> 01:22:21,636 our Part 23 certification. 792 01:22:22,404 --> 01:22:23,705 And then we'll expand from there. 793 01:22:23,705 --> 01:22:26,074 So that traditional super mid and below 794 01:22:26,074 --> 01:22:27,442 business jet market, 795 01:22:27,442 --> 01:22:29,010 because it's a super mid capability, 796 01:22:29,010 --> 01:22:30,412 but you're operating at much lower costs. 797 01:22:30,879 --> 01:22:32,714 So we can really go after that overall 798 01:22:32,714 --> 01:22:33,515 business jet market. 799 01:22:33,782 --> 01:22:34,983 And then we'll expand from there with 800 01:22:34,983 --> 01:22:35,550 what we'll call our 801 01:22:35,550 --> 01:22:36,651 future larger aircraft. 802 01:22:36,651 --> 01:22:37,619 But we haven't come out with that yet. 803 01:22:38,186 --> 01:22:39,788 That's next, and we'll go bigger, right? 804 01:22:39,788 --> 01:22:40,789 So we'll go look at Intercontinental. 805 01:22:41,022 --> 01:22:43,091 We can look at other spaces with it. 806 01:22:43,091 --> 01:22:45,427 But we're starting where we think is the 807 01:22:45,427 --> 01:22:46,528 pragmatic place to 808 01:22:46,528 --> 01:22:47,329 start within the market. 809 01:22:48,096 --> 01:22:49,898 And a great path to a 810 01:22:49,898 --> 01:22:51,700 certification path under Part 23. 811 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,335 Working with great partners, great 812 01:22:53,335 --> 01:22:55,603 customers in FlexJet. 813 01:22:55,971 --> 01:22:57,105 And we'll go from there. 814 01:22:57,339 --> 01:22:59,874 So when can I fly on one of these things? 815 01:22:59,874 --> 01:23:00,475 When can I book a 816 01:23:00,475 --> 01:23:02,010 flight on a Phantom 3500? 817 01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:03,745 So our entry in the service, 818 01:23:03,945 --> 01:23:05,914 our EIS, is planned for 2030. 819 01:23:06,448 --> 01:23:07,215 So what you see behind you 820 01:23:07,215 --> 01:23:08,683 here with the Phantom 3500, 821 01:23:09,050 --> 01:23:10,352 we're in the process of putting that 822 01:23:10,352 --> 01:23:12,087 together now with our partners. 823 01:23:12,687 --> 01:23:13,355 And we will fly. 824 01:23:13,355 --> 01:23:14,656 We've flown prototypes and demonstrators 825 01:23:14,656 --> 01:23:15,657 in the past at auto. 826 01:23:16,391 --> 01:23:17,525 But this next one, flight 827 01:23:17,525 --> 01:23:19,194 test vehicle one of four, 828 01:23:19,194 --> 01:23:20,895 will be flown in Jacksonville, Florida, 829 01:23:20,996 --> 01:23:21,730 where we're moving 830 01:23:21,730 --> 01:23:24,065 the company to in 2027. 831 01:23:24,566 --> 01:23:25,767 And then after that, you'll have flight 832 01:23:25,767 --> 01:23:27,068 test vehicles two through four, 833 01:23:27,302 --> 01:23:29,003 which will be our certification articles. 834 01:23:29,371 --> 01:23:30,705 They'll be conforming aircraft and we'll 835 01:23:30,705 --> 01:23:32,107 go keep them through the 836 01:23:32,107 --> 01:23:32,807 rest of the certification 837 01:23:32,874 --> 01:23:35,543 process with a planned timeline of 2030 838 01:23:35,543 --> 01:23:36,311 entry in the service. 839 01:23:36,611 --> 01:23:37,212 That's awesome. 840 01:23:37,445 --> 01:23:38,513 We will get you in there in 2030. 841 01:23:38,813 --> 01:23:40,115 Honestly, this is one of the coolest 842 01:23:40,115 --> 01:23:41,316 things I've seen on the trade show floor. 843 01:23:41,683 --> 01:23:44,486 So yeah, OTTO aerospace Phantom 3500. 844 01:23:44,586 --> 01:23:47,155 Thank you so much for talking to me about 845 01:23:47,155 --> 01:23:48,490 this and showing it off. 846 01:23:48,723 --> 01:23:49,190 Yeah, cool. 847 01:23:49,190 --> 01:23:49,557 Thanks a lot. 848 01:23:49,824 --> 01:23:51,626 So thank you for joining us on our 849 01:23:51,626 --> 01:23:53,194 journey to MBAA's base 850 01:23:53,194 --> 01:23:55,096 2025 here in Las Vegas, 851 01:23:55,096 --> 01:23:56,731 where we got to learn a little bit about 852 01:23:56,731 --> 01:23:58,266 what it takes to own the jet. 853 01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:00,235 Thank you for watching Own the Jet. 854 01:24:00,635 --> 01:24:02,170 If you want to see more Own the Jet, make 855 01:24:02,170 --> 01:24:03,004 sure to subscribe to 856 01:24:03,004 --> 01:24:03,872 our channel on YouTube 857 01:24:03,905 --> 01:24:05,373 and leave a comment telling us what 858 01:24:05,373 --> 01:24:06,408 aspect of jet ownership 859 01:24:06,408 --> 01:24:07,809 you'd like to know more about. 860 01:24:08,410 --> 01:24:09,210 Own the Jet is brought to 861 01:24:09,210 --> 01:24:10,311 you by Aspen Aero Group, 862 01:24:10,678 --> 01:24:12,247 your trusted partner in private and 863 01:24:12,247 --> 01:24:13,148 corporate jet ownership. 864 01:24:13,748 --> 01:24:15,750 Learn more at Aspen Aero Group dot com. 865 01:24:16,384 --> 01:24:17,952 This has been a Savage Media production.