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Alrighty, welcome back, welcome back.

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It's been a crisp 24 hours, but we are
back with another one because the Leafs

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played and there's so much more to talk
about because what should have been a

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normal game, Sans Morgan Riley, I guess,
turned out to be a game Sans Morgan Riley

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and a couple other people.

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So we'll have that to talk about.

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And the suspension came out.

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So welcome back, everybody.

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Oh, that was supposed to play the intro.

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That was supposed to play the intro.

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There it is.

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side.

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No, that was me.

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I just clicked and it didn't click.

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I gave you a note.

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Okay, so Leafs late night where it's never
too late for the Leafs Roscoe and Sudi

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tonight Presented by Inside the Rink and I
am NOT wearing a Leafs hat this time

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because the one that I wore last night was
hurting my head if you stuck around for

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the post credit scene You will see that it
left a mark on my head and I was getting a

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headache by the end of that episode So we
were going messy today.

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I need a haircut

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He's the same that tells you you need a
haircut buddy.

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it is.

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So five whole games for Morgan Reilly.

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So guesses were everywhere from, you know,
Brian Hayes and the crew were saying two

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or three.

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We had some Leaf haters saying it's going
to be 10.

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We had some people that are negative Leaf
fans saying it's going to be 10 just

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because that's what we think of George
Paros.

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I said seven being said about five or six.

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What do you think it was gonna be?

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I said it was going to be four.

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Okay, so, I mean, like I said, everybody
was all over the place.

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There was no telling what was going to
happen because if there's one thing the

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Department of Player Safety is known for,
it is inconsistency.

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Their consistency for inconsistency is
rather remarkable.

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To your point, everyone was guessing
between two and 12 games.

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So that pretty much sums it up right
there, right?

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No one actually knew what to expect
because you can't go unprecedented.

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It changes every fucking time.

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Yep.

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And it came out today that Leafs have been
the most suspended team under George

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Paros.

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So, you know, there's reason to think it
could be as high as 10, right?

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Like, it's so stupid.

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So obviously the number comes out at five.

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But what was weirder is the timing.

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So Kevin Weeks puts this out.

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And I don't think we've ever seen a
suspension, a suspension leaked like this.

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where it becomes erased.

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there.

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So the fact that it did get leaked is kind
of, you know, it raises some eyebrows,

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right?

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Yeah, and I forget what the wording was.

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Like, I guess it's a scoop race.

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I don't know what the actual term is.

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But the fact that people were looking to
be the first ones to get on this is weird.

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Like, this is usually just an announcement
from the department after they contact the

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GM and the player from what we understand.

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And then it gets announced.

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And that's how everybody hears about it.

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Exactly.

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It's an announcement after a meeting with
a department.

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It's an internal affair.

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It's a suspension.

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Like, I don't.

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This is something that has never happened.

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there is no one that should know about
this before the two GMs are owners of the

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teams, right?

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Like, it's insane that it happened.

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Yeah, so in case you missed the pregame
show, Dredger, Drager basically alluded to

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and kind of confirmed through further
conversation on it that the league didn't

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or the the team and player didn't find out
until Twitter did.

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Like when Kevin Weeks put that out,
everyone found out, which is insane.

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Like the Morgan Reilly and the Leafs
should not find out from Kevin Weeks on

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Twitter.

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That's absolutely bonkers.

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And there were other reporters talking on
X today saying like, you know, everyone

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knew about this this afternoon.

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Like it's never happened before, but we
all knew before they put it out.

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Yeah, the whole thing is crazy.

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Like I expected more than five games.

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I thought it should have been less.

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So maybe five is a middle ground type of
thing.

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But they came up with the reasoning to
write and they said that there was no

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previous engagement.

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So Greg shouldn't have been expecting
anything.

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But I think that's inaccurate.

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Right.

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For what he did, he should have been
expecting some type of retaliation.

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Maybe not a cross check that, to be clear,
hit his arm and then rode up.

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I don't think it was incredibly malicious.

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I don't think he rally met to him in the
face.

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but he had to have known that there was
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did.

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Everybody's been talking about this.

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He's the heel of the sends now.

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He's playing into this character.

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He knew exactly what he was doing like

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of play like they have Valentine's cards
over this like it's him taking a slap

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shot.

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It's the guy's not hurt like why are we
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like everybody's playing into this.

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It's reigniting the Battle of Ontario.

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Leaf fans are pissed because it's like
just not pissed in a well.

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I mean, some people are pissed at the
amount of games, but like for the actual

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incident, I think it's you know, we're
angry because he did something to

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purposely aggravate us.

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Like it's at the point it had its effect.

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Like this is what sports is.

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This is the rivalry between these guys.

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I'm glad it's finally hitting this point
after fucking 20 years, it seems.

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I bet, yeah, even on his team, like a guy
like Giroud or Jacques -Martin, they must

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have been shaking their head at this
because that's not the way that they play

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hockey.

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No, and I mean, look, I know he's
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Matthew's saying he's never seen this at
any level other than the All -Star game.

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Like, it's just, it's, this is a time when
you miss Don Cherry.

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know that someone has to go get them.

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Like it's, it's not even a question.

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Yeah, for George Paros, like go to YouTube
and search George Paros.

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It's not going to be highlights of him
scoring that show up.

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It's him fighting people.

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Like you're telling me this guy is not
going to assume like this guy's not enough

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of a hockey player to know that if you
take a slapshot point blank with five

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seconds left on an open net, you're not
going to get jumped by somebody like that

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is ludicrous.

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You're 100 % not wrong.

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Like, isn't he an Ivy League student as
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I don't know.

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Honestly, I'm too young to really remember
him playing.

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I just looked up Colton Orr beating the
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badly.

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But yeah, that was a thing that happened,
George Paros.

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He's only 44.

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When did he stop playing?

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Part of the 2007 Stanley Cup winning
Anaheim Ducks.

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So I should remember this guy.

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College, Princeton University.

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Yeah, no sludge.

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Like this guy knows what's up.

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If you just look at the stats, I
fractions, it has been very lopsided

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towards the Leafs.

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Not to sound like a homer, but...

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fourth smartest athlete in sports by
Sporting News.

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In sports, not hockey.

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And you're telling me this guy can
confidently sign off on a report that says

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Ridley Grigg was unsuspecting in this
situation.

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Or he can't run an operation where he
can't have a leak.

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He doesn't have the chance to tell the
owners or GMs what's going on first.

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Somebody else needs to be in charge of
this and it shouldn't be somebody that was

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a hockey player to be quite honest.

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I don't know.

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This is.

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the whole thing is making me feel like a
homer, but like the facts are facts.

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Yeah, the rule book is a sham and this
whole league just kind of calls shit by

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the day.

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I like what Riley did.

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I wish he hit him maybe on above the pants
and the ribs or something, but he did what

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he did.

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And sent a message to the team.

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And look how they played tonight.

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Yeah, so moving on, I guess we find out
five games and we think that's going to be

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the only person we're down.

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And obviously we find out right before the
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ripping through the team.

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I don't know what the hell is going on.

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Like we find out Timmons has mono.

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So that's one thing.

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He's not part of this, but Gio was out and
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this.

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And the.

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the fan duel didn't know either.

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Nobody knew, like, McMahon wasn't even
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was like when they took the ice they were
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like...

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Man, like for both of them to be pretty
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So.

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Yeah, and for it to be that last minute,
like they really wanted to and the team

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doctor must have stepped in and be like,
guys, you're going to throw up on the

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bench.

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the whole dynamic of the game tonight
shifted, right?

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Everybody's roles changed.

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Everything changed.

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Yeah, and I mean, like Brian Hayes said,
too, like anybody who's a Leaf fan knew

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that this was going to be this kind of
game.

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Like any time we're down the stars, like
after the game, they even said without

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Riley, the Leafs are like 15 and two for
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it's the same deal.

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Any time these guys go down, it's the team
comes through as a collective and plays a

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completely different style of game where
they're not relying on setting up a couple

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of guys to score and then playing defense
the rest of the time.

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tonight.

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I thought Matthews had a few chances, but
like he wasn't overly noticeable.

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It was everyone like Domi, it was
Robertson, it was like man, they all up

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their game like times 10.

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They were just huge tonight.

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They got way more ice time and they just
played a whole different style of game

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that they would normally be called on to
play.

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Yeah, and I think because they don't know
how long Mitch and JT are going to be down

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for, I think they might have been trying
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Matthews tonight.

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They were playing a really good defensive
game, like both of them were focusing more

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on.

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minutes into the game there's only 12
shots against?

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That's a really good defensive effort from
top to bottom.

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The first period they only had like three
shots.

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Yeah.

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like, it was like 26 minutes, I'm like
almost.

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Yeah, that's insane.

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So everybody was playing well defensively,
which, you you kind of have to when you're

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down so many guys and you've got a bunch
of rookies coming up.

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So, you know, it's good to see it's it's
not always a write off, but when it

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happens, it kind of reinforces that.

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OK, like it does seem like every time
they're going to do this.

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I don't know.

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it just talks to the depth of this team,
right?

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Because if you were to play 82 games with
this roster, you're not going to have the

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success that you would with JT and Martyr.

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But with them out for a couple of games
and Riley out, it just really shows that

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people can step up on this team.

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You also have the added bonus of people
having absolutely zero playbook on you for

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a couple of games because like the Leafs
for six years have basically been the same

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couple of players that run everything.

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So everyone knows the few moves they have.

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You know, they can update it every now and
then, but they know what to expect.

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They know.

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Yeah, they know who's going to take the
shot.

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They know who's going to pass.

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But when you completely throw out a
blender and take a couple of guys out,

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like throw all of your notes out the
window, especially when you found out the

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second you took the ice that two of the
guys aren't there.

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100%.

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So the other thing Fuck this second line.

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So I was curious about the shooting
percentage of this team.

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So I sent this out earlier today I was
doing a little stat research.

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So there's seven guys on the Leafs that
have over a 10 % It's actually over 11 %

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Matthews is the highest I think at 19
Reeves Ryan Reeves has the second high

239
00:11:38,488 --> 00:11:42,228
shooting percentage on the team So you can
kind of take him out of the list because

240
00:11:42,228 --> 00:11:47,534
it doesn't count Same with Robertson
doesn't really play enough minutes to be

241
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considered either and Yarncroak's been
injured.

242
00:11:49,894 --> 00:11:55,034
So really you've got four guys that have
over a 10 % shooting percentage.

243
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The next one is David Camp at eight and a
half.

244
00:11:58,444 --> 00:12:04,674
And I had to really go a couple pages down
the list to find where he ranks in the

245
00:12:04,674 --> 00:12:05,354
rest of the league.

246
00:12:05,354 --> 00:12:07,594
Like what does eight and a half mean?

247
00:12:07,734 --> 00:12:12,062
That's 376th in the league for shooting
percentage.

248
00:12:12,062 --> 00:12:16,072
Domi and Bertuzzi are like five and five
or six and a half or something.

249
00:12:16,072 --> 00:12:18,602
So they're like 500th.

250
00:12:18,602 --> 00:12:19,173
That's

251
00:12:19,173 --> 00:12:23,203
Bertuzzi is never going to score an NHL
goal again, so we can just not think about

252
00:12:23,203 --> 00:12:24,063
that anymore.

253
00:12:24,063 --> 00:12:27,903
But Domi, that's a pretty low number for
him.

254
00:12:28,023 --> 00:12:29,723
He's a playmaker.

255
00:12:29,723 --> 00:12:31,433
I don't expect his numbers to be up.

256
00:12:31,433 --> 00:12:32,523
They shouldn't be that low.

257
00:12:32,523 --> 00:12:35,203
But for Bertuzzi to be that low,
especially with everyone he's been playing

258
00:12:35,203 --> 00:12:39,963
with, and the amount of posts he's hit,
the amount of times he's been just robbed

259
00:12:39,963 --> 00:12:43,643
or missed, this list luck can't keep up,
right?

260
00:12:43,743 --> 00:12:45,582
Statistically, it can't.

261
00:12:45,582 --> 00:12:48,952
I would argue for Domi, if you're a
playmaker, your shooting percentage should

262
00:12:48,952 --> 00:12:52,162
be higher because you're not taking as
many shots and the ones that you do take

263
00:12:52,162 --> 00:12:54,768
should be in opportune positions.

264
00:12:54,987 --> 00:12:58,047
He had a great one in opportunity
recession tonight and I just don't think

265
00:12:58,047 --> 00:13:01,927
he has the shot to beat NHL goaltenders
right now.

266
00:13:02,247 --> 00:13:06,747
Like Bittington saw it in coverage and he
still gloved it no problem.

267
00:13:06,747 --> 00:13:08,883
That's as hard as Domi will ever shoot.

268
00:13:09,006 --> 00:13:10,206
96 miles an hour.

269
00:13:10,206 --> 00:13:11,956
I that was a that was a good shot from.

270
00:13:11,956 --> 00:13:14,166
Yeah, it was 96 and it was.

271
00:13:14,546 --> 00:13:16,971
I was surprised Bennington got it, but.

272
00:13:16,971 --> 00:13:20,251
bit more with some movement, lateral
movement and like some screens, maybe he

273
00:13:20,251 --> 00:13:23,569
will score a bit more, but he just doesn't
have a great shot.

274
00:13:23,758 --> 00:13:27,788
No, but I guess to my point, like we've
talked about how much the top guys are

275
00:13:27,788 --> 00:13:32,708
carrying, but it's not like, you know, you
see sometimes these guys in the bottom

276
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line will have like a 50 % shooting
percentage or something because they never

277
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shoot.

278
00:13:35,778 --> 00:13:37,328
But when they do, oh, look at that.

279
00:13:37,328 --> 00:13:38,458
It goes in.

280
00:13:38,478 --> 00:13:40,598
We're not even getting any of that.

281
00:13:40,598 --> 00:13:45,668
Like the guy, the amount of times I've
seen Domi and Bertuzzi have a puck just go

282
00:13:45,668 --> 00:13:49,798
across the line with no one touch it or
just sit in the crease where no one knows

283
00:13:49,798 --> 00:13:52,566
where it is, is absolutely insane.

284
00:13:52,718 --> 00:13:56,701
Like, I've never seen guys not be able to
just touch it in.

285
00:13:56,701 --> 00:14:00,531
hasn't had a goal go off his ass, his
chest, even his face.

286
00:14:00,531 --> 00:14:01,771
Like that's all he needs.

287
00:14:01,771 --> 00:14:05,051
I think is just for a fluke goal like that
to happen.

288
00:14:05,051 --> 00:14:08,091
Lower your shoulders, relax your arms a
little bit.

289
00:14:08,091 --> 00:14:10,291
Stop clenching the stick so tight.

290
00:14:10,291 --> 00:14:12,270
Since sometime early December.

291
00:14:12,270 --> 00:14:18,590
Yeah, it's it's crazy watching how hard
they try like that line the second line

292
00:14:18,590 --> 00:14:22,858
was so good tonight, but oh my god, they
were never gonna score

293
00:14:24,491 --> 00:14:28,401
I find Nice has a little bit of an issue
where he's got a pretty big body and he

294
00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:33,281
puts himself in front of the net, but he's
still like a foot away from the goalie's

295
00:14:33,281 --> 00:14:33,791
line of vision.

296
00:14:33,791 --> 00:14:37,511
If he's directly square up, I think he's
going get a lot more tips off his body

297
00:14:37,511 --> 00:14:42,412
stick and screens, but he has not been
doing that yet this year.

298
00:14:42,412 --> 00:14:47,062
funny, I thought Nylander's goal was
actually nice at the beginning.

299
00:14:47,062 --> 00:14:47,912
I was like, oh, great.

300
00:14:47,912 --> 00:14:48,442
Nice.

301
00:14:48,442 --> 00:14:49,342
Nice tip that in.

302
00:14:49,342 --> 00:14:50,602
And I'm like, wait, what the hell?

303
00:14:50,602 --> 00:14:51,161
How did?

304
00:14:51,161 --> 00:14:54,091
I was like, finally, all right, off his
ass, great.

305
00:14:54,091 --> 00:14:56,791
Out of the way, now he's going to start
producing.

306
00:14:58,171 --> 00:14:59,211
No.

307
00:14:59,951 --> 00:15:01,598
But Bobby McSnipe.

308
00:15:01,598 --> 00:15:03,398
Bobby McSnipe.

309
00:15:03,398 --> 00:15:08,208
So those first two goals, like it wasn't
like the guy got a couple of garbage ones

310
00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,798
in an empty net or like these were
beautiful.

311
00:15:10,798 --> 00:15:12,378
Are you joking?

312
00:15:13,518 --> 00:15:16,277
Oh, my God, it was so good.

313
00:15:16,277 --> 00:15:19,082
had no business scoring from there, but
like, I'm so glad he did.

314
00:15:19,082 --> 00:15:24,102
business scoring like at all, let alone
two, then three.

315
00:15:24,102 --> 00:15:28,622
That empty netter is like a highlight reel
for the decade empty net goal.

316
00:15:28,622 --> 00:15:31,590
Like he was absolutely not meaning to do
that.

317
00:15:31,955 --> 00:15:35,145
And you know what, like everyone shits on
Keith and stuff, but good for him for

318
00:15:35,145 --> 00:15:38,675
putting him out there because he knew that
was going to pump the boys up and that

319
00:15:38,675 --> 00:15:40,686
was, I think that was a move for the
players.

320
00:15:40,686 --> 00:15:43,806
Yeah, and it speaks a lot to Leafs Nation.

321
00:15:43,806 --> 00:15:47,726
Everybody was kind of split on, hey, the
net's empty.

322
00:15:47,726 --> 00:15:51,826
I know McMahon has two, but should we put
Pertuzzi out there?

323
00:15:51,826 --> 00:15:56,346
Like, I almost would rather...

324
00:15:56,346 --> 00:16:01,166
I'd rather Pertuzzi just get a fucking
goal than this kid who has two goals in

325
00:16:01,166 --> 00:16:04,086
his entire career getting a hat -trick.

326
00:16:04,086 --> 00:16:04,713
Ugh.

327
00:16:04,713 --> 00:16:06,843
going to cut you a check behind the doors.

328
00:16:06,843 --> 00:16:07,633
A little bonus.

329
00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:09,273
Don't tell anybody, but.

330
00:16:09,273 --> 00:16:10,936
Pertuzzi needed this more.

331
00:16:10,936 --> 00:16:11,726
Ugh.

332
00:16:11,726 --> 00:16:13,006
But no, you're absolutely right.

333
00:16:13,006 --> 00:16:17,756
After all the shit that Babcock took, it's
nice that Keith in this situation where he

334
00:16:17,756 --> 00:16:21,796
absolutely didn't have to puts out Camp
and what was it?

335
00:16:21,796 --> 00:16:23,326
Camp, McMahon and Greger.

336
00:16:23,326 --> 00:16:24,045
My God.

337
00:16:24,045 --> 00:16:26,795
things like that go a long way for the
boys.

338
00:16:26,990 --> 00:16:29,690
Gregor though, that breakaway.

339
00:16:29,690 --> 00:16:36,000
I wanted him to like have a little more
patience, trust yourself, like take that

340
00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:36,700
extra move.

341
00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:40,240
He kind of just shot it at the end of the
circle.

342
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,093
I don't know.

343
00:16:41,093 --> 00:16:43,509
doesn't even take breakaways in practice,
man.

344
00:16:43,950 --> 00:16:48,310
But like, you gotta think, all these guys
were the best player on their team at one

345
00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:48,870
point, right?

346
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:53,099
Like they were all, they all have that
capability, whether they've tested it out.

347
00:16:53,099 --> 00:16:56,089
They're playing there for a reason, like
these guys are the best in the world.

348
00:16:56,089 --> 00:16:57,454
They're so good.

349
00:16:57,454 --> 00:16:58,814
Yeah, I just, I don't know.

350
00:16:58,814 --> 00:17:03,414
That's where you want to see it to know
that he's got the confidence and needs to

351
00:17:03,414 --> 00:17:03,864
be here.

352
00:17:03,864 --> 00:17:05,670
And that was just kind of a...

353
00:17:06,187 --> 00:17:08,697
Yeah, it might have been like a small
little right flag.

354
00:17:08,697 --> 00:17:09,838
Maybe he doesn't right now.

355
00:17:09,838 --> 00:17:16,318
Yeah, just because everybody did play so
well, one who didn't that I just want to

356
00:17:16,318 --> 00:17:19,518
give two seconds of grief for.

357
00:17:20,198 --> 00:17:22,998
Justin and I talked a lot about Lilligran
last night.

358
00:17:23,298 --> 00:17:28,498
He had a rough game, like everybody played
like Geo had a good game, Brody played

359
00:17:28,498 --> 00:17:28,937
well.

360
00:17:28,937 --> 00:17:31,857
Jim had a really nice dive on a 2 -on -1
that he broke up.

361
00:17:31,857 --> 00:17:33,070
That was huge.

362
00:17:33,070 --> 00:17:38,610
Oh, and speaking of dives, what about that
one Robertson with the complete 360, like

363
00:17:38,610 --> 00:17:40,230
stands up with it too?

364
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:41,151
Are you kidding?

365
00:17:41,151 --> 00:17:44,491
The amount of energy that could like he's
actually playing healthy for the first

366
00:17:44,491 --> 00:17:47,171
time maybe in his whole career like fully
healthy.

367
00:17:48,051 --> 00:17:49,451
And he's so quick.

368
00:17:49,451 --> 00:17:51,291
He's got so much energy.

369
00:17:51,291 --> 00:17:52,551
He's fun.

370
00:17:54,286 --> 00:17:56,166
Oh, sorry.

371
00:17:59,342 --> 00:18:02,382
But sorry, what was I gonna, what was I
fucking?

372
00:18:02,602 --> 00:18:03,462
Oh, Lillagren.

373
00:18:03,462 --> 00:18:07,402
Yeah, so he definitely had the roughest
game of everybody tonight.

374
00:18:07,502 --> 00:18:11,112
Kind of, he was highlighted on that first
goal by St.

375
00:18:11,112 --> 00:18:15,542
Louis there, obviously was unable to tie
up the stick as was broken down by

376
00:18:15,542 --> 00:18:15,882
everybody.

377
00:18:15,882 --> 00:18:17,382
So I don't need to go into that.

378
00:18:17,382 --> 00:18:23,242
And just the times where he's the last man
on the blue line there and I've seen it

379
00:18:23,242 --> 00:18:25,787
skip over his stick, like a couple times,
yeah.

380
00:18:25,787 --> 00:18:28,017
selection too is like right terrible.

381
00:18:28,017 --> 00:18:31,404
It was right in the shins of the person
defending or trying to block it.

382
00:18:31,404 --> 00:18:33,575
Oh, so many times he gets people on the
feet.

383
00:18:33,575 --> 00:18:37,095
is crazy because like when we drafted him
this guy had such high up like offensive

384
00:18:37,095 --> 00:18:42,325
upside And you just don't see it right now
and he used to see it even like two years

385
00:18:42,325 --> 00:18:43,715
ago one year ago

386
00:18:44,174 --> 00:18:50,014
Yeah, and I was reminded today, it's been
seven years since we drafted him.

387
00:18:51,214 --> 00:18:56,324
Yeah, he was taken in the same draft as
Robert Thomas, who we played against

388
00:18:56,324 --> 00:18:56,974
tonight.

389
00:18:56,974 --> 00:18:59,747
Like, that's just to compare the
development level.

390
00:18:59,747 --> 00:19:04,387
you think like he's feeling just tonight,
a lot of pressure, Riley's out first game.

391
00:19:04,387 --> 00:19:08,407
Hopefully he bounces back for these next
four games because this is a huge chance

392
00:19:08,407 --> 00:19:09,239
for him.

393
00:19:09,834 --> 00:19:12,974
like this is kind of his last chance in my
opinion.

394
00:19:12,974 --> 00:19:13,283
I mean,

395
00:19:13,283 --> 00:19:16,713
I don't think if he does anything in the
next couple of games, you have to really

396
00:19:16,713 --> 00:19:19,883
think about packaging him for something.

397
00:19:20,142 --> 00:19:26,262
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would have liked
to see last year as being his last chance

398
00:19:26,262 --> 00:19:28,972
because they did give him a lot of
opportunities and then they kind of went

399
00:19:28,972 --> 00:19:33,355
into this year like, I don't know, I guess
you're with Gio on the third pair.

400
00:19:33,355 --> 00:19:38,695
If he's not going to be offensive, he's
too light and like not gritty enough to be

401
00:19:38,695 --> 00:19:40,875
on a bottom three for defense.

402
00:19:40,935 --> 00:19:44,215
So he's kind of stuck right in no man's
land.

403
00:19:45,055 --> 00:19:46,917
And he still got some value.

404
00:19:46,970 --> 00:19:52,420
They're not meant to be bottom line
players, but there's never going to be an

405
00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:56,900
opportunity for them to take like this
team has so few opportunities to take top

406
00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:57,990
line spots.

407
00:19:57,990 --> 00:20:01,510
Defense is definitely not going to be one
when you've got Riley and Brody.

408
00:20:01,510 --> 00:20:02,650
Like that's kind of it.

409
00:20:02,650 --> 00:20:03,810
The first pair is there.

410
00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:05,229
We've locked up McCabe.

411
00:20:05,229 --> 00:20:08,142
showed nothing that he'll like supersede
those people.

412
00:20:08,142 --> 00:20:10,352
No, and look what happened when we brought
Benoit up.

413
00:20:10,352 --> 00:20:13,082
He jumped over him in a matter of two
months.

414
00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:13,907
Like...

415
00:20:13,907 --> 00:20:18,577
was going to be a solid four to six, five
to six probably, but he's great at what he

416
00:20:18,577 --> 00:20:22,286
does and he knows his role and Lily is not
playing his role.

417
00:20:22,286 --> 00:20:27,183
No, unfortunately, and it doesn't seem
like they're like because

418
00:20:27,183 --> 00:20:30,943
training Sandeen because those were two
young guys who were supposed to come up.

419
00:20:31,843 --> 00:20:34,177
Then we bet on Lily instead of Sandeen.

420
00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:37,293
Lily over Sandeen and now here we are
with...

421
00:20:37,293 --> 00:20:39,971
hasn't really showed that much either to
be fair, but...

422
00:20:40,558 --> 00:20:45,048
Yeah, and I mean, look, not every draft
pick pans out, but I don't think they gave

423
00:20:45,048 --> 00:20:48,898
any opportunity for this one to go in the
right direction.

424
00:20:48,898 --> 00:20:49,381
And now.

425
00:20:49,381 --> 00:20:53,761
question though, because a lot of our
forward traffics, you know, have all these

426
00:20:53,761 --> 00:20:57,991
are core four minus bars and everything,
but we haven't had like a really big

427
00:20:57,991 --> 00:21:00,317
defensive pick that's hit.

428
00:21:01,390 --> 00:21:09,427
Well, I think it's hard to like know that
a defensive defenseman is developing well.

429
00:21:09,427 --> 00:21:11,691
like there's no question about it.

430
00:21:11,692 --> 00:21:15,832
Yeah, it seems that those guys get picked
up later in their careers and kind of move

431
00:21:15,832 --> 00:21:20,052
around teams as far as offensive ones
like, yeah, it's it's tough because once

432
00:21:20,052 --> 00:21:24,692
you have Morgan Riley, like you don't
you're not looking for somebody to to take

433
00:21:24,692 --> 00:21:25,222
that spot.

434
00:21:25,222 --> 00:21:28,342
And it seems like every time they have
tried to trade for somebody that's that

435
00:21:28,342 --> 00:21:30,462
same type of player, it never works out.

436
00:21:30,742 --> 00:21:35,242
So this team has been in a really strange
defensive spot, like they don't really

437
00:21:35,242 --> 00:21:37,822
know what to put around Morgan.

438
00:21:39,723 --> 00:21:41,853
There's I've been saying for a long time.

439
00:21:41,853 --> 00:21:43,103
I think Toronto.

440
00:21:44,083 --> 00:21:46,923
The perfect guy was when Muzzin first came
to the Leafs, right?

441
00:21:46,923 --> 00:21:47,833
Like I was nasty.

442
00:21:47,833 --> 00:21:48,523
He was quick.

443
00:21:48,523 --> 00:21:51,683
He'd have a great outlet pass and he had a
heavy shot.

444
00:21:51,683 --> 00:21:54,803
What the Leafs don't have is like a threat
from the point right now.

445
00:21:54,803 --> 00:21:57,943
You have a threat that Riley will go in
and pinch.

446
00:21:57,943 --> 00:22:00,023
Easier offense and defense, right?

447
00:22:00,023 --> 00:22:04,883
But you don't have someone who can just
blast it that will draw other teams

448
00:22:04,883 --> 00:22:09,475
wingers out to your D and give more room
to Matthews, Tavares and Marner.

449
00:22:09,739 --> 00:22:12,459
And that's just not a dynamic that the
Leafs have right now.

450
00:22:12,459 --> 00:22:14,350
So other teams are defending against it.

451
00:22:14,350 --> 00:22:16,770
They need Benoit with a slap shot.

452
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:18,310
You know?

453
00:22:19,210 --> 00:22:22,819
Like, it's getting to the point where...

454
00:22:22,819 --> 00:22:25,774
Kaber had like a massive Slapshot and was
a little quicker.

455
00:22:25,774 --> 00:22:28,064
Yeah, see McCabe is almost that too.

456
00:22:28,064 --> 00:22:32,644
Like I feel like they get almost there
with so many guys, but just Lillagren is

457
00:22:32,644 --> 00:22:37,324
the one that every time they bring someone
in, it's they push him down a spot in the

458
00:22:37,324 --> 00:22:37,914
lineup.

459
00:22:37,914 --> 00:22:39,914
And I like to bring it back to what you
said.

460
00:22:39,914 --> 00:22:43,724
I think March 8th is coming up in two
weeks, three weeks now.

461
00:22:43,724 --> 00:22:47,514
I think they really got to see is this
something that we're going to keep rolling

462
00:22:47,514 --> 00:22:52,542
the dice on every year or is it, you know,
somebody else's to deal with now?

463
00:22:53,525 --> 00:22:57,755
It's a really big question for them
because he's had so many opportunities at

464
00:22:57,755 --> 00:23:01,775
this point and he's just, where is it
going to be in this team?

465
00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:06,121
His value might never be higher right now,
but it's not even that high.

466
00:23:06,262 --> 00:23:07,402
Yeah, but exactly.

467
00:23:07,402 --> 00:23:09,462
It can only go down at this point.

468
00:23:10,422 --> 00:23:13,402
Look, it's good to have depth and
defensemen would going into the playoffs,

469
00:23:13,402 --> 00:23:18,502
but I feel like with what you've got out
of all the other guys, like I would rather

470
00:23:18,502 --> 00:23:22,112
if someone's injured, I'd rather see
Lajoie play a couple of games or Ligason

471
00:23:22,112 --> 00:23:23,607
than than have.

472
00:23:23,607 --> 00:23:28,617
obviously he's got mono now, but like even
a guy like Haber, like that hit he laid on

473
00:23:28,617 --> 00:23:31,327
Sunquist tonight, no one else does that at
least.

474
00:23:31,327 --> 00:23:36,661
He brings something that no one else does
on the D and that's what Lily has to do.

475
00:23:37,486 --> 00:23:39,406
Yeah, and yeah, exactly.

476
00:23:39,406 --> 00:23:42,166
I just think it's not working right now.

477
00:23:42,166 --> 00:23:42,790
So...

478
00:23:43,211 --> 00:23:45,678
That's so huge on him too when they
drafted him.

479
00:23:45,678 --> 00:23:47,538
Yeah, me too.

480
00:23:47,658 --> 00:23:50,578
And Sandeen too, it was sad to see him go.

481
00:23:50,578 --> 00:23:54,578
And I was high on both of them, you know,
just the prospect of having like we talked

482
00:23:54,578 --> 00:23:57,078
like you were saying, we never have
defensive prospects.

483
00:23:57,078 --> 00:24:00,859
Finally, there were two that were, you
know, decently talked about.

484
00:24:00,859 --> 00:24:05,859
he had Mondo in his last season in
juniors, so he slipped a bit to the Leafs

485
00:24:05,859 --> 00:24:10,867
and we got him and he'd almost rather have
him right now.

486
00:24:11,382 --> 00:24:11,942
Yep.

487
00:24:11,942 --> 00:24:13,912
On the plus side, Samsonov.

488
00:24:13,912 --> 00:24:16,682
Another decent game from him, finally.

489
00:24:16,682 --> 00:24:17,087
Yep.

490
00:24:17,087 --> 00:24:17,747
thought he looked good.

491
00:24:17,747 --> 00:24:19,207
He looked cool, calm in the net.

492
00:24:19,207 --> 00:24:21,007
He made the saves he had to make.

493
00:24:21,007 --> 00:24:23,638
The one I blame on Lily, not him.

494
00:24:23,638 --> 00:24:26,738
Yep, unfortunate tip right in front of
him.

495
00:24:26,958 --> 00:24:30,201
Other than that, limited shots and limited
danger, so...

496
00:24:30,201 --> 00:24:33,671
really good defensively, like you said,
like the amount of shots they had going

497
00:24:33,671 --> 00:24:37,325
into the last eight minutes of the game
was a 12.

498
00:24:37,646 --> 00:24:40,946
Yeah, and I mean, most of that came from
the Leafs going down short handed.

499
00:24:40,946 --> 00:24:44,836
Oh my God, what about McCabe getting his
nose bloodied up every game and getting

500
00:24:44,836 --> 00:24:46,046
nothing for it?

501
00:24:46,046 --> 00:24:49,066
Like good on Domi for running in like, no,
no, no, no, no.

502
00:24:49,066 --> 00:24:52,316
We don't slam our friends into the boards
like that.

503
00:24:52,575 --> 00:24:55,075
no, come on now, that's not happening.

504
00:24:55,695 --> 00:24:59,835
He had two fucking stuffies up his nose,
his eyes were just watering.

505
00:24:59,895 --> 00:25:03,595
The guy's a warrior though, like getting
fixed up on the bench and even have to go

506
00:25:03,595 --> 00:25:05,001
back to the dressing room.

507
00:25:05,678 --> 00:25:07,978
I mean, at that point, there's nobody to
take your spot.

508
00:25:07,978 --> 00:25:09,335
So you kind of have to come back.

509
00:25:09,335 --> 00:25:15,715
But like he's becoming to me like the
heart and soul of that D almost.

510
00:25:16,095 --> 00:25:20,555
Just like what he brings for the team like
to rise him up.

511
00:25:20,755 --> 00:25:21,595
Oh.

512
00:25:22,478 --> 00:25:26,518
Yeah, I do like that he, like you said,
he's got an identity.

513
00:25:26,518 --> 00:25:27,818
He knows what he's there for.

514
00:25:27,818 --> 00:25:28,838
He's got a job.

515
00:25:28,838 --> 00:25:29,611
He does it.

516
00:25:29,611 --> 00:25:32,129
He's mostly reliable.

517
00:25:32,270 --> 00:25:33,230
Yeah.

518
00:25:33,410 --> 00:25:34,315
Mostly, yeah.

519
00:25:34,315 --> 00:25:36,533
of FutureLeaf per echo?

520
00:25:37,390 --> 00:25:42,780
See, this, I've been looking through the
trade list and his is a name that I didn't

521
00:25:42,780 --> 00:25:45,290
really think about that much until I saw
him plank tonight.

522
00:25:45,290 --> 00:25:46,476
I was like, you know what?

523
00:25:46,699 --> 00:25:56,766
the term the term isn't it like six years
at seven seven at six or six or seven

524
00:25:56,766 --> 00:25:59,786
Colton Pareco, cab friendly.

525
00:26:00,286 --> 00:26:02,186
How many years you got left, boy?

526
00:26:02,186 --> 00:26:05,746
Oh my god, he signed until 2030 for six
and a half.

527
00:26:05,746 --> 00:26:06,686
Okay.

528
00:26:06,739 --> 00:26:08,878
And his production's already falling off
of it.

529
00:26:08,878 --> 00:26:11,219
He's got a he's got a no move.

530
00:26:11,219 --> 00:26:12,259
is he too?

531
00:26:12,259 --> 00:26:14,377
Is he like older than Brody already?

532
00:26:14,414 --> 00:26:16,734
He is...

533
00:26:16,734 --> 00:26:17,638
30.

534
00:26:18,163 --> 00:26:19,313
Eww.

535
00:26:21,198 --> 00:26:27,388
So you'd have him until he's 31, two,
three, four, 36, at six and a half

536
00:26:27,388 --> 00:26:28,078
million.

537
00:26:28,078 --> 00:26:29,308
Yeah, no thanks.

538
00:26:29,308 --> 00:26:30,117
I don't wanna.

539
00:26:30,117 --> 00:26:33,431
two years you don't worry about you can
figure out afterwards, but the floor.

540
00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:39,390
got a modified no trade clause in the last
two years and a no trade clause for every

541
00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:40,770
other year.

542
00:26:41,330 --> 00:26:43,410
Yeah, it's not an easy thing.

543
00:26:43,410 --> 00:26:46,874
Like, I don't think he'd waive it to go to
Toronto either.

544
00:26:48,043 --> 00:26:48,907
No?

545
00:26:49,814 --> 00:26:53,034
I don't know, maybe but I see.

546
00:26:54,034 --> 00:26:58,574
Well, again, I don't see the Leafs having
the money to take that on like six and a

547
00:26:58,574 --> 00:26:59,614
half for that.

548
00:27:00,034 --> 00:27:07,354
Look, you're if you these off the books,
you've got a couple of those random like

549
00:27:07,354 --> 00:27:10,354
Murray and some of these LTIR contracts
come off the books.

550
00:27:10,354 --> 00:27:11,252
I don't know.

551
00:27:11,403 --> 00:27:15,263
There's a whole bunch of like, Jomi,
Bertuzzi, there's a lot of things in the

552
00:27:15,263 --> 00:27:15,957
air.

553
00:27:16,046 --> 00:27:19,426
I just don't know if you can make it work
at the deadline this year.

554
00:27:20,146 --> 00:27:23,266
Like the Leafs are spending the most money
of any team right now.

555
00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:25,386
I don't know how you find six and a half.

556
00:27:25,866 --> 00:27:29,673
And I don't know if Colton Pereyko is
really the guy.

557
00:27:29,673 --> 00:27:31,883
think he's the guy to do it.

558
00:27:32,723 --> 00:27:35,663
Like I said, his stats have been falling
off a little bit the last two years, so

559
00:27:35,663 --> 00:27:37,803
he's already a bit of an indecline.

560
00:27:37,803 --> 00:27:41,765
So if he gives you two good years, then
you get stuck with four shit ones.

561
00:27:42,030 --> 00:27:47,570
So I know they're not like super awesome,
but the team is not super awesome either.

562
00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:51,670
I brought up a couple weeks ago, Andrew
Peek and Adam Bogwist.

563
00:27:51,730 --> 00:27:58,950
They're both right -handed and they make 2
.75 and 2 .6 and they are 23 and 25 and

564
00:27:58,950 --> 00:28:00,310
Columbus is shit.

565
00:28:00,390 --> 00:28:05,820
So like I got shot down for that one, but
I don't really like, why is that crazy?

566
00:28:05,820 --> 00:28:07,193
Like, are they that bad?

567
00:28:07,193 --> 00:28:10,923
age, I think, and the control of the
amount of money that they're making.

568
00:28:10,923 --> 00:28:13,275
That's extremely valuable for teams.

569
00:28:14,048 --> 00:28:22,568
Yeah, I guess it would be a lot to get
them, but I mean, two years on bogquist,

570
00:28:22,568 --> 00:28:25,008
one after this year and two years for peak
after this one.

571
00:28:25,008 --> 00:28:27,507
So it's not like it's crazy term.

572
00:28:27,507 --> 00:28:29,987
an interesting team because like they
always don't want to spend too much money,

573
00:28:29,987 --> 00:28:30,987
but they're stuck with Lanny.

574
00:28:30,987 --> 00:28:32,887
They're stuck with Gujuro.

575
00:28:33,227 --> 00:28:36,987
Like they got a lot of money that they
probably don't want tied up right now.

576
00:28:36,987 --> 00:28:40,547
So if they have good contracts like that,
it'll take a lot to get them.

577
00:28:41,422 --> 00:28:45,642
Um, I guess quick little side, um,
transition.

578
00:28:45,642 --> 00:28:49,222
Do you hear about this, this Patrick Lyne
bullshit?

579
00:28:49,622 --> 00:28:55,212
Like, if anybody didn't hear, um, there
was a podcast that covers the blue jackets

580
00:28:55,212 --> 00:29:00,102
that was making jokes about Patrick Lyne,
uh, taking a leave of absence for mental

581
00:29:00,102 --> 00:29:04,862
health, um, in a very disturbing way.

582
00:29:04,862 --> 00:29:10,542
And no, it's just like what I couldn't
help but think is.

583
00:29:10,542 --> 00:29:13,882
you know, compared to us, like if any of
the Leafs took a leave of absence for

584
00:29:13,882 --> 00:29:16,052
that, like I couldn't imagine talking
about them in that way.

585
00:29:16,052 --> 00:29:21,002
Like I just like as a fan of the team that
covers the like, I don't know how you get

586
00:29:21,002 --> 00:29:21,477
to

587
00:29:21,477 --> 00:29:27,547
as a fan, just like as a human being, you
would never expect anyone on this panel to

588
00:29:27,547 --> 00:29:28,910
talk like that, right?

589
00:29:28,910 --> 00:29:34,310
No, and like, I get people are shitty and
people make shitty jokes, but like, I

590
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:35,541
don't know, as somebody -

591
00:29:35,541 --> 00:29:39,651
on that panel and the one girl, she came
out with a great statement afterwards.

592
00:29:39,651 --> 00:29:43,831
She said she didn't understand what the
joke was and she didn't find it funny and

593
00:29:43,831 --> 00:29:45,481
she severed all ties right there.

594
00:29:45,481 --> 00:29:47,831
But everyone else was kind of laughing
right in the moment.

595
00:29:47,831 --> 00:29:50,339
So it was quite obvious that they knew
what was going on.

596
00:29:51,598 --> 00:29:53,648
Yeah, so I mean, thanks for that.

597
00:29:53,648 --> 00:29:55,178
I didn't know that by that part.

598
00:29:55,198 --> 00:29:56,426
Yeah, it's just.

599
00:29:58,028 --> 00:30:01,408
Like, yeah, I get that as a human it's a
shitty thing to say, but like I'm thinking

600
00:30:01,408 --> 00:30:06,108
as somebody that covers the team and calls
themselves a fan of the team and wears the

601
00:30:06,108 --> 00:30:11,438
jersey, like to say that about somebody
that like you claim to like represent and

602
00:30:11,438 --> 00:30:15,978
I don't know, that's just something, I
just don't know how you get to that level

603
00:30:15,978 --> 00:30:18,618
of shittiness.

604
00:30:20,619 --> 00:30:24,079
It's like there's nothing funny about it.

605
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:25,759
There's nothing clever about it.

606
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:27,747
I also, I don't get it.

607
00:30:27,886 --> 00:30:31,756
I just want to shout out to the people
that have been donating to Columbus and

608
00:30:31,756 --> 00:30:35,761
Ohio's mental health awareness stuff in
his name.

609
00:30:35,761 --> 00:30:40,371
of the big name reporters and Patrick
Lenny himself came out about this.

610
00:30:40,371 --> 00:30:44,181
So good for everyone for, you know,
rallying around him right now for this,

611
00:30:44,181 --> 00:30:46,945
because it's it's frankly, it's bullshit.

612
00:30:47,438 --> 00:30:56,068
Yeah, the one of the other podcasts on our
network inside the rink here, the I don't

613
00:30:56,068 --> 00:30:57,098
know how you say it.

614
00:30:57,098 --> 00:31:01,918
It's objectively speaking, but instead of
objectively, it's CBJ like Columbus Blue

615
00:31:01,918 --> 00:31:02,898
Jackets.

616
00:31:02,898 --> 00:31:05,138
So I don't know how you pronounce that.

617
00:31:05,138 --> 00:31:12,898
But anyway, they they donated in Colombia
or in Patrick Lina's name to the Ohio

618
00:31:12,898 --> 00:31:15,518
Health Mental Health Resources.

619
00:31:15,838 --> 00:31:16,430
So.

620
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:20,960
Huge shout out to them for doing that and
being better for the fan base than this

621
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,170
other podcast that doesn't even need to be
named.

622
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:25,690
So just a I don't know.

623
00:31:25,690 --> 00:31:30,710
Reminder that there are good people in the
hockey world, but there are also shitty

624
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:31,250
people.

625
00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:34,808
So, you know, just be louder than the
shitty ones and we'll all feel better.

626
00:31:35,435 --> 00:31:40,485
Yeah, and like, you know what, we're not
having a million listeners here, right?

627
00:31:40,485 --> 00:31:41,445
Neither were these guys.

628
00:31:41,445 --> 00:31:42,675
We're having fun with this.

629
00:31:42,675 --> 00:31:45,635
We're doing it because we're passionate
and we care about what we're doing.

630
00:31:45,635 --> 00:31:49,095
So when you start doing that stuff,
there's no fun.

631
00:31:49,095 --> 00:31:50,375
There's no passion.

632
00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:53,945
We got to be better than that.

633
00:31:54,414 --> 00:31:57,054
Okay, fun right turn here.

634
00:31:57,054 --> 00:32:00,900
What are we going to nickname Bobby
McMahon?

635
00:32:01,419 --> 00:32:03,479
Bobby McHattie, it's over.

636
00:32:04,499 --> 00:32:08,715
He's never gonna score three more goals
maybe in his career, but it's done.

637
00:32:09,454 --> 00:32:12,514
I've been calling him McNuggets, so I
remember when he got his other one, it was

638
00:32:12,514 --> 00:32:13,474
just, ah, McNuggets.

639
00:32:13,474 --> 00:32:16,774
And then he got two, then I got two piece,
and then he got the three piece McNuggets

640
00:32:16,774 --> 00:32:17,668
tonight.

641
00:32:17,803 --> 00:32:21,273
So when he got his second goal, I called
him Bobby McSnipe because that goal was

642
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:22,483
ridiculous.

643
00:32:23,542 --> 00:32:29,152
I mean, I think the Mick just allows it to
be very versatile, just whatever the

644
00:32:29,152 --> 00:32:32,875
situation is, throw Mick in front of it
and great, it's a Mick man.

645
00:32:32,875 --> 00:32:35,765
But you know what, there's a lot of great,
I bet you if you looked it up, there's a

646
00:32:35,765 --> 00:32:38,795
lot of great NHL players who've never
scored a hat trick.

647
00:32:38,795 --> 00:32:43,411
So Bobby McHattie, I think that would fly
really, really well in the room.

648
00:32:43,918 --> 00:32:46,638
You know what, that's probably a fair
point.

649
00:32:46,638 --> 00:32:50,757
Like players that score a lot obviously
have a number of hat tricks, but.

650
00:32:50,757 --> 00:32:52,807
done it this year, Matthews?

651
00:32:52,987 --> 00:32:55,127
That might be it.

652
00:32:55,867 --> 00:32:57,333
Martin might've got one.

653
00:32:58,702 --> 00:33:00,247
Um, I think.

654
00:33:00,247 --> 00:33:01,683
or T 'Varus did.

655
00:33:02,158 --> 00:33:02,778
Leaves?

656
00:33:02,778 --> 00:33:04,238
Where's Justin?

657
00:33:04,238 --> 00:33:06,138
Leaves Hattricks.

658
00:33:07,018 --> 00:33:09,798
Oh my God.

659
00:33:09,798 --> 00:33:10,108
Okay.

660
00:33:10,108 --> 00:33:12,018
I'm not doing this like this.

661
00:33:12,018 --> 00:33:13,158
Where is this year?

662
00:33:13,158 --> 00:33:14,378
Here.

663
00:33:16,278 --> 00:33:20,298
This year started the...

664
00:33:20,298 --> 00:33:21,038
Ryan O 'Reilly...

665
00:33:21,038 --> 00:33:22,918
John Tavares on...

666
00:33:22,918 --> 00:33:23,828
No, that was last year.

667
00:33:23,828 --> 00:33:24,458
Okay.

668
00:33:24,458 --> 00:33:27,698
Matthews, Matthews, Matthews, Marner,
Matthews.

669
00:33:28,918 --> 00:33:29,670
Yeah.

670
00:33:29,671 --> 00:33:31,331
That's insane.

671
00:33:31,631 --> 00:33:33,884
My God, he's the best school score of all
time.

672
00:33:33,884 --> 00:33:37,274
11th, October 14th, November 4th.

673
00:33:38,027 --> 00:33:42,147
I can't remember the exact numbers, but I
saw a stat just the other day.

674
00:33:42,147 --> 00:33:48,427
He's like 25 games ahead of Ovechkin for
Mount a Gula score that I already played.

675
00:33:48,587 --> 00:33:51,495
He's on a much better pace than Ovechkin
is.

676
00:33:51,534 --> 00:33:55,984
Okay, since 2013, what's that?

677
00:33:55,984 --> 00:34:03,614
There have been 32 hat tricks by Leaf
players.

678
00:34:04,014 --> 00:34:04,974
Okay.

679
00:34:05,294 --> 00:34:12,364
Austin Matthews is one, two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11 of

680
00:34:12,364 --> 00:34:13,131
those.

681
00:34:13,131 --> 00:34:15,571
He might be pretty good at scoring goals.

682
00:34:15,651 --> 00:34:17,397
I don't know if you know this.

683
00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:21,690
the Leafs' hat -tricks in the last 10
years.

684
00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:28,330
The rest of them, Nazem Kadri, Phil
Kessel, Tyler Bozak, JVR.

685
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:30,830
Yeah, Bozak got a couple in here.

686
00:34:30,990 --> 00:34:32,081
Tyler Ennis?

687
00:34:32,081 --> 00:34:32,641
a lot of tips.

688
00:34:32,641 --> 00:34:34,390
He was a big man in front of the net.

689
00:34:34,390 --> 00:34:37,050
Andreas Jansson, shout out.

690
00:34:37,350 --> 00:34:39,550
And a 6 -0 win against Philly.

691
00:34:39,550 --> 00:34:41,730
And Tyler Ennis had one.

692
00:34:42,650 --> 00:34:44,108
Jason Spezza.

693
00:34:44,555 --> 00:34:45,775
That's shocking.

694
00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:50,690
in the 7 -3 win against Vancouver two
years or three years ago.

695
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:54,690
And Ryan O 'Reilly's, other than that,
it's been the core.

696
00:34:55,190 --> 00:35:00,350
And by the core, it's basically just like
a couple from JT and the rest from

697
00:35:00,350 --> 00:35:01,550
Matthews.

698
00:35:01,710 --> 00:35:03,367
That's pretty crazy, I've never looked at.

699
00:35:03,367 --> 00:35:05,518
have been Bobby McCall up, but...

700
00:35:05,518 --> 00:35:06,868
Yeah, this is not updated.

701
00:35:06,868 --> 00:35:14,218
Now it'll, we'll have to add Bobby McMahon
as the 349th hat trick by a Leaf player.

702
00:35:14,218 --> 00:35:15,502
So congrats.

703
00:35:15,851 --> 00:35:16,831
Good for him.

704
00:35:16,831 --> 00:35:18,131
What a day he's had.

705
00:35:18,131 --> 00:35:20,651
He played a great game, even defensively,
I thought.

706
00:35:20,651 --> 00:35:22,151
He played really good.

707
00:35:22,151 --> 00:35:25,971
And his other two games, I didn't think he
played that good.

708
00:35:26,271 --> 00:35:26,970
So.

709
00:35:26,970 --> 00:35:30,590
like that line's been kind of meh this
year.

710
00:35:30,590 --> 00:35:32,630
They they've had some games where it's
like, oh great.

711
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,570
They kept it in the zone the whole time.

712
00:35:34,570 --> 00:35:38,210
But other times it's like, am I watching
three Alex kerfuts?

713
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:39,499
Like, do you?

714
00:35:39,499 --> 00:35:41,249
sure what you're going to get from them
from night for night.

715
00:35:41,249 --> 00:35:43,374
And that's not great for your bottom line.

716
00:35:43,374 --> 00:35:45,834
Yeah, you don't know if they're physical,
you don't know if they're defensive or if

717
00:35:45,834 --> 00:35:46,464
they're offensive.

718
00:35:46,464 --> 00:35:47,624
They're just kind of...

719
00:35:47,624 --> 00:35:49,014
they do whatever.

720
00:35:49,163 --> 00:35:52,623
It makes it hard for the coach to put them
out at key times too because you don't

721
00:35:52,623 --> 00:35:53,742
know what you're going to get.

722
00:35:53,742 --> 00:35:59,692
No, so that's something if we're gonna
make any moves by March 8th I'd like to

723
00:35:59,692 --> 00:36:04,612
see like a veteran on the fourth line to
just give some sort of identity Like I

724
00:36:04,612 --> 00:36:09,022
mean Perry and Kessel are now off the
board as we now have heard Kessel's going

725
00:36:09,022 --> 00:36:13,942
to Vancouver So those are guys that I
would have liked to leave to you know,

726
00:36:13,942 --> 00:36:17,491
maybe get for league men But that's kind
of the type of person

727
00:36:17,491 --> 00:36:20,111
how it fits on the team, but I agree with
what you're trying to say.

728
00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:21,452
Perry, more so.

729
00:36:21,452 --> 00:36:26,692
Yeah, like somebody that has been to the
playoffs a bunch that isn't 22 and, you

730
00:36:26,692 --> 00:36:30,282
know, knows, can tell the guys, OK, we're
doing this.

731
00:36:30,282 --> 00:36:31,002
Oh, great.

732
00:36:31,002 --> 00:36:33,342
The Paxson are and OK, follow me.

733
00:36:33,342 --> 00:36:35,622
Like, it just seems they don't know what
they're doing.

734
00:36:37,099 --> 00:36:38,949
It's tough with...

735
00:36:38,949 --> 00:36:41,459
It's tough with camp though too, right?

736
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:42,899
Like...

737
00:36:42,899 --> 00:36:44,814
Just the amount he's making.

738
00:36:44,814 --> 00:36:47,310
Yeah, that was a shitty contract.

739
00:36:49,582 --> 00:36:51,728
I don't know about camp, man.

740
00:36:52,971 --> 00:36:56,991
Yeah, when he's making that much amount of
money on your fourth line and he's not

741
00:36:56,991 --> 00:37:00,811
producing as he was in previous years,
like not even close.

742
00:37:02,211 --> 00:37:07,931
And you tie like, we're trying to hail him
as like this defensive power kill dude,

743
00:37:07,931 --> 00:37:10,711
but even then he's not the same.

744
00:37:10,711 --> 00:37:13,233
That's a lot of money tied up for a fourth
line center.

745
00:37:13,934 --> 00:37:15,144
Was it two and a half?

746
00:37:16,267 --> 00:37:18,787
Yeah, for like, how, what, two or three
years?

747
00:37:18,862 --> 00:37:23,762
See look if he was one and a half which is
probably 2 .4 okay if he's one and a half

748
00:37:23,762 --> 00:37:27,772
which is probably what he's actually
valued at and that's you know being

749
00:37:27,772 --> 00:37:35,552
generous that's a whole other player that
we could have right now like that's a you

750
00:37:35,552 --> 00:37:39,982
know somebody that's been waiting for a
contract league men signing like I just

751
00:37:39,982 --> 00:37:40,883
whatever

752
00:37:40,883 --> 00:37:44,462
to bury him in the A, it's a way bigger
deal just because of his ticket.

753
00:37:44,462 --> 00:37:47,192
Yeah, somebody you can wave and maybe
somebody will pick him up, but at this

754
00:37:47,192 --> 00:37:48,490
point there's no way.

755
00:37:48,747 --> 00:37:52,407
But it's so kind of weird, like before
this year, he was so reliable too.

756
00:37:52,407 --> 00:37:57,427
Like you would have wanted him on your
fourth line, maybe not for that amount of

757
00:37:57,427 --> 00:38:00,687
money, but you would have expected a
certain amount of play from him that we

758
00:38:00,687 --> 00:38:03,139
just have not received this year.

759
00:38:03,214 --> 00:38:08,744
Well, I think to his credit, the most
change we've seen in the lineup has been

760
00:38:08,744 --> 00:38:14,462
the bottom six this year, and he's kind of
the only guy left from last year.

761
00:38:14,987 --> 00:38:16,750
Uh, yarn trucks there.

762
00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:18,470
Yeah, Yarncork's there.

763
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:22,970
But I get like for the most part that
bottom six is entirely different.

764
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:26,333
So maybe he's just.

765
00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:29,683
line to be a lot more offensive to you, so
the fourth line would have had to be

766
00:38:29,683 --> 00:38:32,303
extremely reliable defensively.

767
00:38:32,768 --> 00:38:36,808
Yeah, so I just think maybe with the new
makeup of guys there, he just doesn't fit

768
00:38:36,808 --> 00:38:38,588
in the same way that he did last year.

769
00:38:38,588 --> 00:38:42,078
And, you know, unfortunately, they're
paying for him to be better than he was

770
00:38:42,078 --> 00:38:43,019
last year.

771
00:38:43,019 --> 00:38:47,689
Yeah, at the same point, I don't feel like
he's someone you should trade and like

772
00:38:47,689 --> 00:38:52,719
throw in maybe a second round or something
just to offset the money but it's not a

773
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,011
great predicament to be in right now with
him.

774
00:38:55,022 --> 00:38:58,052
No, and that's kind of what it comes down
to with this team heading to the deadline

775
00:38:58,052 --> 00:39:00,422
is you're not in a great predicament at
all.

776
00:39:00,422 --> 00:39:03,442
Like, there's not many available players
that are going to fix the situation.

777
00:39:03,442 --> 00:39:07,972
You don't have a lot of picks and and
prospects to trade and you don't want to.

778
00:39:07,972 --> 00:39:09,802
And you don't want to move any of the big
guys.

779
00:39:09,802 --> 00:39:11,902
So like, there's really.

780
00:39:13,042 --> 00:39:15,412
Yeah, there's there's not much they can
do.

781
00:39:15,412 --> 00:39:18,382
Like, I know everyone's screaming Brad.

782
00:39:18,382 --> 00:39:21,646
And by everyone, I mean, SD like.

783
00:39:21,647 --> 00:39:22,417
everyone on Twitter.

784
00:39:22,417 --> 00:39:27,167
There's a whole faction of Twitter that is
just puke inducing.

785
00:39:27,167 --> 00:39:28,834
But yeah, we won't go there.

786
00:39:28,834 --> 00:39:33,734
what there is not everyone's asking like
what's the trade?

787
00:39:33,734 --> 00:39:37,914
I've seen a couple proposals, but really
like there's nothing out there.

788
00:39:38,395 --> 00:39:40,495
Even like as I said for Reiko, like what
are you going to give?

789
00:39:40,495 --> 00:39:42,795
How are you going to compensate for his
amount of money?

790
00:39:42,795 --> 00:39:46,045
Like Brad came in this summer.

791
00:39:46,045 --> 00:39:48,795
He's had not even half a year so far.

792
00:39:48,795 --> 00:39:54,446
Like it takes a lot more time to carve out
your own team, right?

793
00:39:54,446 --> 00:39:58,306
Well, especially when you come into the
team where all your first and second round

794
00:39:58,306 --> 00:39:59,723
picks have been traded away already.

795
00:39:59,723 --> 00:40:01,043
Yeah, exactly.

796
00:40:01,043 --> 00:40:05,483
And your core team is set, so you can't
really mess with that too much because

797
00:40:05,483 --> 00:40:07,015
there's no trade clauses.

798
00:40:07,566 --> 00:40:08,975
Yeah, it's like.

799
00:40:08,975 --> 00:40:11,557
flexibility is just so limited.

800
00:40:11,854 --> 00:40:15,774
Like I can look at other teams and say,
oh, this person would work or that person

801
00:40:15,774 --> 00:40:16,184
would work.

802
00:40:16,184 --> 00:40:18,634
But when it comes down to, well, what are
we going to pay for it?

803
00:40:18,634 --> 00:40:19,994
There's no answer.

804
00:40:20,154 --> 00:40:21,535
Like, I don't know.

805
00:40:21,535 --> 00:40:22,735
or then you hear the smart answer.

806
00:40:22,735 --> 00:40:24,525
We just let Marner walk at the end of his
contract.

807
00:40:24,525 --> 00:40:27,401
Like that's the dumbest thing I've ever
heard in my whole life.

808
00:40:27,702 --> 00:40:30,972
So Justin and I were talking last night
about, you know, do you punt on the year?

809
00:40:30,972 --> 00:40:34,522
And we kind of came to, you can't punt by
like, you know, give up on it and trade

810
00:40:34,522 --> 00:40:35,502
people away.

811
00:40:35,502 --> 00:40:38,492
But like, really, there's nothing you can
buy on.

812
00:40:38,492 --> 00:40:40,512
So it's kind of just you are what you are
this year.

813
00:40:40,512 --> 00:40:42,658
And I don't think it's going to be much.

814
00:40:42,923 --> 00:40:45,893
I think if you can add like a deadline
piece, that's not going to push your cap

815
00:40:45,893 --> 00:40:46,683
over too much.

816
00:40:46,683 --> 00:40:50,193
Like you say, it's not going to be very
much, but at the same time, you can't

817
00:40:50,193 --> 00:40:54,503
trade away assets on a season where
Matthews might get 70 something goals

818
00:40:54,503 --> 00:40:57,043
because what does that say to him?

819
00:40:57,323 --> 00:41:00,067
You owe it to him to at least try a little
bit.

820
00:41:00,302 --> 00:41:06,402
Yeah, the thing is, all of your assets are
valued differently at the trade deadline

821
00:41:06,402 --> 00:41:08,122
than they are in the offseason.

822
00:41:08,122 --> 00:41:14,692
And I feel like if you spend on somebody
that's overvalued, like all the whoever is

823
00:41:14,692 --> 00:41:20,772
selling the player at the deadline gets 50
% more at the deadline than they would in

824
00:41:20,772 --> 00:41:21,582
the offseason.

825
00:41:21,582 --> 00:41:21,727
Right.

826
00:41:21,727 --> 00:41:24,718
think especially this year too because
it's like there's no one really out there.

827
00:41:24,718 --> 00:41:28,748
People always overpay, like look what
Tampa gave up for Tanner Geno and Brandon

828
00:41:28,748 --> 00:41:30,605
Hagel, like that doesn't happen.

829
00:41:30,605 --> 00:41:31,335
Lisa did that?

830
00:41:31,335 --> 00:41:33,902
It would be a massacre in the media.

831
00:41:33,902 --> 00:41:34,542
Exactly.

832
00:41:34,542 --> 00:41:41,342
So I just I can't help but wonder, do the
Leafs maybe just hold on what they do

833
00:41:41,342 --> 00:41:42,442
have?

834
00:41:42,442 --> 00:41:43,422
Hold steady.

835
00:41:43,422 --> 00:41:43,832
Exactly.

836
00:41:43,832 --> 00:41:47,782
And then once the season's over, you're
going to have a whole bunch of different

837
00:41:47,782 --> 00:41:51,562
guys available and teams in different
positions once they've either not made the

838
00:41:51,562 --> 00:41:53,582
playoffs or been knocked out.

839
00:41:53,582 --> 00:42:00,582
Caps going up like why spend now to not be
able to when the market's going to have

840
00:42:00,582 --> 00:42:01,963
more for sale, you know?

841
00:42:01,963 --> 00:42:02,683
Yeah.

842
00:42:02,683 --> 00:42:07,483
Unless if you're trading for someone who
has term and money, it's going both ways,

843
00:42:07,483 --> 00:42:10,243
which I don't see a trade out there right
now for that.

844
00:42:10,243 --> 00:42:14,853
Then I tend to like hide out in your camp
right now.

845
00:42:14,853 --> 00:42:18,383
I think we're just going to hold steady
and see what happens.

846
00:42:18,383 --> 00:42:21,625
Hope to make the playoffs and hope the
core four goes crazy.

847
00:42:22,062 --> 00:42:27,262
Like, OK, the Jake McCabe Sam Lafferty
deal was something like if you do

848
00:42:27,262 --> 00:42:31,342
something like that, obviously we didn't
keep Lafferty, but where you get McCabe,

849
00:42:31,342 --> 00:42:34,102
who's locked down, what did they send for
that?

850
00:42:34,102 --> 00:42:40,722
Joey Anderson, Pavel Gogolov, a second and
a conditional first in twenty five.

851
00:42:40,722 --> 00:42:45,842
So like that, I don't hate where it's like
a couple of guys from the Marlies that you

852
00:42:45,842 --> 00:42:50,202
really weren't ever going to have in the
lineup and a future pick for some guys

853
00:42:50,202 --> 00:42:51,480
with term.

854
00:42:51,711 --> 00:42:53,151
Mm -hmm.

855
00:42:53,151 --> 00:42:54,151
Yeah.

856
00:42:54,671 --> 00:42:56,571
I think McCabe's birth itself.

857
00:42:57,031 --> 00:42:58,111
Yeah.

858
00:42:59,071 --> 00:43:02,951
The first makes it a tiny bit weary, just
not even for a draft pick, but I think

859
00:43:02,951 --> 00:43:05,571
that's good capital going forward that we
need.

860
00:43:05,571 --> 00:43:09,091
We're not in the position to groom people
right now.

861
00:43:09,091 --> 00:43:12,783
But yeah, something like that, that would
kind of make sense.

862
00:43:13,774 --> 00:43:16,494
Yeah, I don't know, fine, whatever.

863
00:43:17,301 --> 00:43:20,131
Have you looked at like TSN's top 25?

864
00:43:20,131 --> 00:43:21,710
I haven't even looked at it in so long.

865
00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:24,330
I was looking at it last night, but
there's a bunch of them.

866
00:43:24,330 --> 00:43:26,330
I'm not sure I'm trying.

867
00:43:26,330 --> 00:43:27,370
Deadline.

868
00:43:29,454 --> 00:43:32,154
Nine here, Connex, no not Connex army.

869
00:43:32,154 --> 00:43:33,834
Who do we want from?

870
00:43:34,074 --> 00:43:35,594
Let's go to TSN.

871
00:43:35,787 --> 00:43:39,807
There's also this one little wrinkle that
hasn't been spoken about right now.

872
00:43:39,807 --> 00:43:41,267
It's goaltending.

873
00:43:41,550 --> 00:43:44,290
Oh my God, we're rolling the dice.

874
00:43:44,351 --> 00:43:45,881
Wall has been...

875
00:43:45,881 --> 00:43:46,831
Did you see him on the ice?

876
00:43:46,831 --> 00:43:48,417
The shots of him tonight?

877
00:43:48,846 --> 00:43:50,955
I mean, I wasn't paying attention to it.

878
00:43:50,955 --> 00:43:52,245
It was like Leafs porn.

879
00:43:52,245 --> 00:43:56,475
He looked his ankles going in circles, it
seized, it looked great.

880
00:43:56,715 --> 00:43:58,815
He doesn't look too, too, too far away.

881
00:43:58,815 --> 00:44:03,395
However, he's got such an injury history.

882
00:44:05,695 --> 00:44:08,545
Sammy, one of the best school attendance
last year.

883
00:44:08,545 --> 00:44:10,555
This year, you don't know where you're
going to get.

884
00:44:10,555 --> 00:44:13,477
And Jones, it's such a question mark.

885
00:44:15,243 --> 00:44:17,683
Do you trade Jones because he might have
some value?

886
00:44:17,683 --> 00:44:19,630
You could probably get like a second round
pick for him.

887
00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:22,990
There's so many people looking for
goalies, honestly, like you might be

888
00:44:22,990 --> 00:44:26,591
better off trading and like if you're
ready to have Hildeby back up these.

889
00:44:26,591 --> 00:44:29,441
there first if he started heating up and
then just went with wool and j - like

890
00:44:29,441 --> 00:44:33,019
that's a huge question that really no
one's talking about right now.

891
00:44:33,358 --> 00:44:36,558
Like, obviously the safest thing is to
say, well, they're going to ride the three

892
00:44:36,558 --> 00:44:37,408
into the playoffs.

893
00:44:37,408 --> 00:44:42,198
But while we're in this position where
you've got no picks to trade, maybe this

894
00:44:42,198 --> 00:44:44,038
is a spot where it's, hey, you know what?

895
00:44:44,038 --> 00:44:44,398
Fuck it.

896
00:44:44,398 --> 00:44:47,478
We have a surplus of something for once in
our lives.

897
00:44:47,478 --> 00:44:50,318
Let's exchange it for something we have
nothing of.

898
00:44:50,347 --> 00:44:51,617
Yeah, or guess what?

899
00:44:51,617 --> 00:44:54,967
Maybe let Hilda be taking a game or two,
or he's a backup.

900
00:44:55,007 --> 00:44:58,359
I find that's the most interesting part
for me right now.

901
00:44:59,630 --> 00:45:05,310
Okay, this is from January NHL trade
Deadline player rankings here from bet MGM

902
00:45:05,310 --> 00:45:14,550
four days ago Noah Hanifin Chris Tanev
Adam and reek Vlad Teresanko Jake Gunsell

903
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:19,998
Jacob chickren Sean Walker Mark Andre
flurry Scott Lawton Trevor Zegris

904
00:45:22,808 --> 00:45:23,718
like

905
00:45:24,721 --> 00:45:29,351
Like again, going back to leaves Twitter,
the whole Hennepin Nintendo thing that's

906
00:45:29,351 --> 00:45:32,021
been rehashed for four months now.

907
00:45:32,021 --> 00:45:34,111
So everyone knows about that.

908
00:45:34,731 --> 00:45:36,871
But what are you giving up for that?

909
00:45:36,871 --> 00:45:40,983
And do they really move the needle that
much for you?

910
00:45:41,356 --> 00:45:45,056
Yeah, like that's that's what I keep
coming back to is like what's really going

911
00:45:45,056 --> 00:45:47,186
to move the needle and how much are we
going to have to spend on it?

912
00:45:47,186 --> 00:45:48,406
Like, is it worth it right now?

913
00:45:48,406 --> 00:45:51,596
Like, is one player going to fix all the
problems on this team?

914
00:45:51,596 --> 00:45:56,316
No, because we've got better than mediocre
goaltending, which is kind of all the

915
00:45:56,316 --> 00:45:58,766
Leafs need, but it would be better to have
a little better.

916
00:45:58,766 --> 00:46:00,226
But we got what we got.

917
00:46:00,226 --> 00:46:01,566
Defense, little shaky.

918
00:46:01,566 --> 00:46:03,386
Bottom six, little shaky.

919
00:46:03,386 --> 00:46:05,486
One trade is not going to fix all of those
things.

920
00:46:05,486 --> 00:46:08,046
And we don't have the resources.

921
00:46:08,926 --> 00:46:10,006
Yeah.

922
00:46:10,006 --> 00:46:10,862
And look.

923
00:46:10,862 --> 00:46:14,592
If you want to say get OK, let's pick
three of them off this list.

924
00:46:14,592 --> 00:46:21,722
Let's grab Chris Tanev and we'll take Sean
Walker and Marc Andre Fleury.

925
00:46:21,722 --> 00:46:23,492
OK, well, we can't afford any of them.

926
00:46:23,492 --> 00:46:25,462
So that's that.

927
00:46:25,462 --> 00:46:27,162
I guess we're not fixing our problems.

928
00:46:27,162 --> 00:46:27,842
I don't know.

929
00:46:27,842 --> 00:46:33,542
I hate this because of the season that
Matthews is having a new lander.

930
00:46:33,542 --> 00:46:37,242
It's like it seems like robbery to them.

931
00:46:37,242 --> 00:46:39,502
But I don't know.

932
00:46:39,502 --> 00:46:42,804
There's, this is the hand that we've been
dealt.

933
00:46:43,947 --> 00:46:51,727
I pray that wall really turns out and he's
our savior in the back end.

934
00:46:51,727 --> 00:46:56,357
But even if that were to happen, that
still leaves a little hole on D.

935
00:46:56,357 --> 00:47:02,907
Like there's no real stud there other than
Riley, who's like pretty close to a stud.

936
00:47:03,087 --> 00:47:04,837
And there's just no way to get one this
season.

937
00:47:04,837 --> 00:47:08,017
Like you said, maybe something in the off
season, you make something work, but it's

938
00:47:08,017 --> 00:47:09,657
just not going to happen this year.

939
00:47:09,742 --> 00:47:14,742
No, I mean, I know the Leafs have talked
about Rasmus Ristelainen as an option too.

940
00:47:14,742 --> 00:47:19,652
Like that's maybe the closest thing to
what they need.

941
00:47:19,652 --> 00:47:22,667
Like a huge defenseman with a shot like.

942
00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:25,467
It's not kind of like the Lubuskin of this
year.

943
00:47:26,094 --> 00:47:28,374
Yeah, I'd say he's better than Lubushkin.

944
00:47:30,134 --> 00:47:33,814
Like, maybe higher potential has been also
on a shit team.

945
00:47:33,814 --> 00:47:36,372
I would take Lubushkin back, honestly, and
Luke Shen.

946
00:47:38,447 --> 00:47:41,937
being said, I don't want it to sound like
super duper gloom because I do think this

947
00:47:41,937 --> 00:47:47,657
team can turn it on and I think some of
their puck luck has not been great this

948
00:47:47,657 --> 00:47:49,727
year and it will turn around.

949
00:47:50,667 --> 00:47:54,127
But they just don't have the flexibility
to make the big moves that people are

950
00:47:54,127 --> 00:47:56,398
really salivating for.

951
00:47:56,398 --> 00:48:02,388
Yeah, I think it's really got to be fixing
the problems within 5 and 6 % shooting

952
00:48:02,388 --> 00:48:03,318
percentage.

953
00:48:03,318 --> 00:48:04,808
Like, look, we're halfway through
February.

954
00:48:04,808 --> 00:48:06,188
It shouldn't be keeping up this long.

955
00:48:06,188 --> 00:48:08,078
It can't keep up this much longer.

956
00:48:08,078 --> 00:48:08,537
Like...

957
00:48:08,537 --> 00:48:09,297
unsustainable.

958
00:48:09,297 --> 00:48:14,747
No, that's like a guy in the NBA shooting
1 .5 or to 10 free throw, like a three

959
00:48:14,747 --> 00:48:15,707
pointers or whatever.

960
00:48:15,707 --> 00:48:17,294
You can't, you can't have that.

961
00:48:17,294 --> 00:48:19,894
Well, on the flip side, it's like the guys
at the beginning of the year who for two

962
00:48:19,894 --> 00:48:22,944
months are shooting 40 % and everyone
goes, OK, well, this isn't going to

963
00:48:22,944 --> 00:48:24,894
sustain and they go back to Earth.

964
00:48:24,934 --> 00:48:26,852
This is crazy.

965
00:48:27,355 --> 00:48:30,335
Especially for a guy like Perttuzi, like
that.

966
00:48:30,335 --> 00:48:31,605
That's the biggest one, right?

967
00:48:31,605 --> 00:48:34,535
This guy hasn't scored since early
December.

968
00:48:34,835 --> 00:48:36,735
He's got quite a big ticket.

969
00:48:36,735 --> 00:48:41,582
He can do it like he's come so close so
many times in the last two months.

970
00:48:41,582 --> 00:48:44,002
And if you move him, he's gonna score
wherever he goes.

971
00:48:44,002 --> 00:48:44,267
Like...

972
00:48:44,267 --> 00:48:47,647
And then if you go look on Twitter
everyone's gonna say, well, he's just a

973
00:48:47,647 --> 00:48:48,127
playoff guy.

974
00:48:48,127 --> 00:48:51,267
But it would be nice if he was doing this
in regular season two, boys.

975
00:48:51,267 --> 00:48:52,907
I'm not gonna lie.

976
00:48:56,287 --> 00:48:57,498
This is getting dicey.

977
00:48:57,498 --> 00:49:02,218
when you drop six of eight points to the
Ottawa Senators who are in last in the

978
00:49:02,218 --> 00:49:04,138
East, it's not great, guys.

979
00:49:04,138 --> 00:49:04,742
Like...

980
00:49:04,825 --> 00:49:05,435
yeah, yeah.

981
00:49:05,435 --> 00:49:07,790
We're making this harder than it needs to
be.

982
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:12,240
Yeah, I mean, look, if it means we're not
having a matchup against the same fucking

983
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,590
team we always do great.

984
00:49:14,590 --> 00:49:20,510
But I don't know, unless Bertuzzi all of a
sudden turns it on and scores like two

985
00:49:20,510 --> 00:49:21,680
points a game in the playoffs.

986
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,910
I'm actually worried about it.

987
00:49:24,331 --> 00:49:27,651
Yeah, like his defensive game has gone so
much better.

988
00:49:27,651 --> 00:49:29,051
The chances are there.

989
00:49:29,051 --> 00:49:30,731
He just...

990
00:49:30,731 --> 00:49:31,761
Dude can't score.

991
00:49:31,761 --> 00:49:33,995
He's got fucking hands of stone right now,
man.

992
00:49:34,382 --> 00:49:39,122
Okay, who would we play if the playoffs
started today?

993
00:49:39,482 --> 00:49:46,066
Oh no, we would play the Rangers.

994
00:49:49,171 --> 00:49:50,135
Ew.

995
00:49:52,974 --> 00:49:53,894
I think, right?

996
00:49:53,894 --> 00:49:57,434
The second place plays the first place
wild card?

997
00:49:57,434 --> 00:49:59,205
Yeah, we'd play the Rangers.

998
00:49:59,205 --> 00:50:01,235
to the one in eight.

999
00:50:01,715 --> 00:50:05,307
Krazy said that at the All -Star game, and
I completely agree.

1000
00:50:06,222 --> 00:50:10,802
Yeah, if we went one through eight, the
Leafs are in seventh in the east, they

1001
00:50:10,802 --> 00:50:12,862
would play the Rangers.

1002
00:50:13,862 --> 00:50:16,242
Wow.

1003
00:50:16,642 --> 00:50:18,965
It's funny how often that happens.

1004
00:50:18,965 --> 00:50:23,195
you hear Overdrive saying that they should
trade Shastrkin at the deadline?

1005
00:50:23,308 --> 00:50:24,378
Why?

1006
00:50:24,939 --> 00:50:27,419
Because they I think they just wanted
hits.

1007
00:50:27,419 --> 00:50:29,789
That's that's the craziest take I've ever
heard.

1008
00:50:29,789 --> 00:50:30,649
Quick is super old.

1009
00:50:30,649 --> 00:50:33,199
He's only got a couple more years left in
him.

1010
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:38,059
As good as he's been playing like their
gopening situation right now is so

1011
00:50:38,059 --> 00:50:40,619
enviable, but you don't trade Igor.

1012
00:50:40,619 --> 00:50:42,259
That's that's so wild.

1013
00:50:42,819 --> 00:50:43,893
Isn't it?

1014
00:50:44,116 --> 00:50:47,536
wild card format versus the conference one
through eight.

1015
00:50:47,536 --> 00:50:49,946
The Eastern matchups don't change.

1016
00:50:50,486 --> 00:50:52,606
It's exactly the same.

1017
00:50:52,971 --> 00:50:54,190
Crosby's like, oh fuck.

1018
00:50:54,190 --> 00:50:59,890
It's weird because it does affect things
drastically sometimes and other times it

1019
00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:04,750
does nothing so Why not just go back to
it?

1020
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:08,161
Yeah, obviously this is all subject to
change but

1021
00:51:08,161 --> 00:51:13,166
I haven't looked into is what does our
next four games look like without Moe?

1022
00:51:13,166 --> 00:51:14,596
Oh, so we did this last night.

1023
00:51:14,596 --> 00:51:15,706
It's like St.

1024
00:51:15,706 --> 00:51:16,686
Louis, St.

1025
00:51:16,686 --> 00:51:18,366
Louis again.

1026
00:51:18,366 --> 00:51:20,536
I think it's Philly, St.

1027
00:51:20,536 --> 00:51:23,446
Louis, Anaheim are the next three games.

1028
00:51:24,066 --> 00:51:27,058
Vegas is after, I think it's the first
game with MoBak.

1029
00:51:27,147 --> 00:51:28,291
Okay

1030
00:51:28,750 --> 00:51:31,840
Okay, so this is game one.

1031
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,870
So the next one's Flyers.

1032
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:33,580
Oh yeah, Anaheim.

1033
00:51:33,580 --> 00:51:35,180
So it's Flyers, Anaheim, St.

1034
00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:36,930
Louis again, and then Arizona.

1035
00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:38,492
Those are the five games.

1036
00:51:39,047 --> 00:51:40,398
Interesting.

1037
00:51:40,398 --> 00:51:43,018
Yeah, so kind of lucked out there.

1038
00:51:44,683 --> 00:51:46,126
Not bad timing at all.

1039
00:51:46,126 --> 00:51:49,726
If it was seven games, the sixth and
seventh game would be the Golden Knights

1040
00:51:49,726 --> 00:51:51,166
and the Avalanche.

1041
00:51:51,826 --> 00:51:55,506
And then the Golden Knights again after
that.

1042
00:51:55,506 --> 00:52:00,546
So the Leafs have a really shitty three
games, but this is like the most trap

1043
00:52:00,546 --> 00:52:01,506
schedule.

1044
00:52:01,506 --> 00:52:06,076
Like do five games against bottom feeder
teams and then let's play the first place

1045
00:52:06,076 --> 00:52:07,942
teams in the West back to back to back.

1046
00:52:08,619 --> 00:52:12,019
But there is like clear picture, which
would be great.

1047
00:52:12,019 --> 00:52:14,659
We just rally around without Mo being
here.

1048
00:52:14,659 --> 00:52:18,009
And then when he comes back, it's hurrah,
hurrah, and we win those next two games as

1049
00:52:18,009 --> 00:52:18,711
well.

1050
00:52:18,894 --> 00:52:22,748
We have a back -to -back away Arizona and
then Vegas.

1051
00:52:24,302 --> 00:52:25,482
Oh.

1052
00:52:26,382 --> 00:52:27,302
Yeah.

1053
00:52:29,452 --> 00:52:30,937
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1054
00:52:30,937 --> 00:52:33,809
be a Salt Lake City coyotes.

1055
00:52:34,478 --> 00:52:36,648
Yeah, so I guess there was some news in
the coyotes that came out.

1056
00:52:36,648 --> 00:52:38,338
We can finish on that.

1057
00:52:38,698 --> 00:52:43,638
So they said that they had interest in
land like they had expressed that they

1058
00:52:43,638 --> 00:52:45,838
wanted to purchase it.

1059
00:52:46,378 --> 00:52:49,308
Then Betman said that they were interested
in land and then they said there were

1060
00:52:49,308 --> 00:52:50,778
multiple things they were interested in.

1061
00:52:50,778 --> 00:52:52,818
So contradicting what Betman said.

1062
00:52:52,818 --> 00:52:56,468
And then they said that they were going to
give them kind of till the end of this

1063
00:52:56,468 --> 00:53:00,928
week and that Alex Murrell was going to
talk to the staff of the coyotes this

1064
00:53:00,928 --> 00:53:04,154
week, which I guess would have been
yesterday or today or tomorrow.

1065
00:53:04,238 --> 00:53:07,961
So we don't know when this news is gonna
come out, but it...

1066
00:53:07,961 --> 00:53:11,691
the first or second or third deadline that
they've broken though.

1067
00:53:12,331 --> 00:53:13,459
This year.

1068
00:53:14,162 --> 00:53:17,822
they're telling them they're packing it in
though.

1069
00:53:17,982 --> 00:53:22,192
Like it seems Betman is not going to give
them any more runway on this because if

1070
00:53:22,192 --> 00:53:24,812
they're going to build something that's
like six years down the line.

1071
00:53:24,812 --> 00:53:31,682
So it seems like the option is either sell
the team to what's his nuts who owns the

1072
00:53:31,682 --> 00:53:37,872
sons who doesn't want them, sell them to
this dude in Salt Lake City and then wait

1073
00:53:37,872 --> 00:53:40,878
and bring a team back to Arizona once the
thing's built.

1074
00:53:40,878 --> 00:53:43,529
or just sell them and forget about it.

1075
00:53:43,529 --> 00:53:46,419
over until you find another owner in
Arizona.

1076
00:53:46,830 --> 00:53:49,440
Well, I think it's just the fact that
you're not gonna have an arena for six

1077
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:49,760
years.

1078
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,085
Like they can't afford the...

1079
00:53:52,085 --> 00:53:55,214
that's an option that's not even viable,
right?

1080
00:53:55,214 --> 00:53:58,724
So I think at this point, the owners are
breathing down Gary's neck because they

1081
00:53:58,724 --> 00:54:01,754
don't want to pay to support this team
that they were told is going to be three

1082
00:54:01,754 --> 00:54:02,284
years max.

1083
00:54:02,284 --> 00:54:06,194
And now it's looking like it could be a
decade in a college arena if they have to

1084
00:54:06,194 --> 00:54:07,934
wait for something to be built.

1085
00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:09,334
You can't do that.

1086
00:54:09,334 --> 00:54:12,074
It's insane for a professional sport.

1087
00:54:12,354 --> 00:54:12,513
So.

1088
00:54:12,513 --> 00:54:13,433
ready in Salt Lake.

1089
00:54:13,433 --> 00:54:15,103
You have a team ready in Kansas City.

1090
00:54:15,103 --> 00:54:16,913
You have a team ready in Houston, I think.

1091
00:54:16,913 --> 00:54:19,163
You have a team ready in Quebec City.

1092
00:54:19,383 --> 00:54:21,163
This fucking one worked.

1093
00:54:21,223 --> 00:54:22,213
Atlanta, that's the other one.

1094
00:54:22,213 --> 00:54:22,963
Thank you.

1095
00:54:22,963 --> 00:54:24,883
But that would be your third time in
Atlanta.

1096
00:54:24,883 --> 00:54:26,713
Like, what kind of look is that?

1097
00:54:27,214 --> 00:54:33,034
Yeah, it's just like the way that I put it
before is you're just expanding for the

1098
00:54:33,034 --> 00:54:37,174
sake of paying off your problems until you
solve Arizona.

1099
00:54:37,534 --> 00:54:38,649
So they got to.

1100
00:54:38,649 --> 00:54:41,127
expansion fee, which is great, blah, blah,
blah, but.

1101
00:54:41,230 --> 00:54:47,180
But the owners are tired of paying for a
dying, you know, whatever you want to call

1102
00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:47,720
the coyotes.

1103
00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:52,400
And it sucks because those players are
like they've been so bad for so long that

1104
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,590
they've been drafting all of the star
talent for the last eight years.

1105
00:54:56,590 --> 00:54:59,230
And these guys are sitting there playing
for nobody.

1106
00:54:59,230 --> 00:55:00,750
And they're getting good.

1107
00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:04,470
Like they're actually they made some
trades to have a better team.

1108
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:05,410
Like.

1109
00:55:05,710 --> 00:55:08,890
Like they're well, I thought they were
doing better.

1110
00:55:08,890 --> 00:55:11,011
They're in fourth last.

1111
00:55:11,011 --> 00:55:13,495
some pieces that you can actually build
around.

1112
00:55:14,478 --> 00:55:18,198
Yeah, oh shit, they're on their two six
and two in their last 10 or otherwise

1113
00:55:18,198 --> 00:55:22,758
before that they were doing pretty well
But yeah, look you've got things to build

1114
00:55:22,758 --> 00:55:27,158
around It's just it sucks seeing them just
draft guys and trade them away like, you

1115
00:55:27,158 --> 00:55:30,368
know, look at the look at Jacob Chikran We
spent five years saying oh, when are they

1116
00:55:30,368 --> 00:55:30,818
gonna trade him?

1117
00:55:30,818 --> 00:55:31,838
Where's he gonna go?

1118
00:55:31,838 --> 00:55:38,134
Cuz it can't be at, Arizona McBain like

1119
00:55:39,694 --> 00:55:40,514
McBain's there, right?

1120
00:55:40,514 --> 00:55:42,092
No, no, no, I'm not crazy.

1121
00:55:42,635 --> 00:55:45,347
I don't it's so hard to keep up with the
fucking self.

1122
00:55:45,678 --> 00:55:51,078
Anyway, I would just like to see this team
sold, moved, and then try to build

1123
00:55:51,078 --> 00:55:54,418
something in Arizona because obviously
there's a market that wants hockey there.

1124
00:55:54,418 --> 00:55:58,212
It's just the ownership group has been
abysmal for way too long.

1125
00:55:58,699 --> 00:56:02,259
They've given it every, like more than
every opportunity.

1126
00:56:02,446 --> 00:56:05,586
Yeah, and this is a point that I've seen
made in Gary Betman's favor.

1127
00:56:05,586 --> 00:56:06,776
And I do kind of agree with this.

1128
00:56:06,776 --> 00:56:12,096
Like, as a lawyer, he has the grounds to
say he tried absolutely everything and

1129
00:56:12,096 --> 00:56:12,856
this is on them.

1130
00:56:12,856 --> 00:56:16,366
Like, they gave them every opportunity to
make this a successful franchise.

1131
00:56:16,366 --> 00:56:20,246
They gave them all the runway they could,
and they couldn't put it together.

1132
00:56:20,246 --> 00:56:25,006
So when they're offering to other small
markets, hey, do you want to expand?

1133
00:56:25,006 --> 00:56:26,986
They're not going to say, oh, well, what
happened with the Coyotes?

1134
00:56:26,986 --> 00:56:28,126
It's not on the league.

1135
00:56:28,126 --> 00:56:30,862
Like, Betman has made sure that no
matter...

1136
00:56:30,862 --> 00:56:34,152
how anyone looks at this, they know that
it's not the league's fault that Arizona

1137
00:56:34,152 --> 00:56:38,902
didn't work because they literally gave
them like four miles of runway to try to

1138
00:56:38,902 --> 00:56:40,550
get off the ground and they couldn't do
it.

1139
00:56:40,847 --> 00:56:42,407
So final question.

1140
00:56:42,407 --> 00:56:45,829
If they leave Arizona, where would you
like to see them land?

1141
00:56:46,158 --> 00:56:51,078
I would like to see, I mean the joke
answer is Atlanta because it means we'll

1142
00:56:51,078 --> 00:56:57,658
get another Canadian team because they
somehow always end up moving to Canada.

1143
00:56:59,338 --> 00:57:03,988
The Videotron Center was real nice in
Quebec City, just driving by it.

1144
00:57:03,988 --> 00:57:08,108
It would be cool to have another one, but
I don't think Montreal and the Leafs would

1145
00:57:08,108 --> 00:57:12,458
let it happen just with that whole compete
thing they've got.

1146
00:57:12,479 --> 00:57:12,942
Hmm.

1147
00:57:12,942 --> 00:57:16,162
okay, if I'm taking all that out and I'm
just speaking objectively, Quebec City

1148
00:57:16,162 --> 00:57:17,402
would be cool.

1149
00:57:17,622 --> 00:57:22,762
I think the market can take it and it
would be fun to have an old team come

1150
00:57:22,762 --> 00:57:23,762
back.

1151
00:57:25,502 --> 00:57:31,086
I mean, I guess most of those markets,
it's an old team coming back.

1152
00:57:31,499 --> 00:57:36,919
My pick, I think, would have to be maybe,
I'm going off a little off the board here

1153
00:57:36,919 --> 00:57:39,359
too, but I would think it would be Kansas
City.

1154
00:57:39,779 --> 00:57:42,429
Houston's also like the fourth biggest
market in the U .S.

1155
00:57:42,429 --> 00:57:44,141
that does not have a hockey team.

1156
00:57:44,334 --> 00:57:49,044
Yeah, if we're talking like for the growth
of the sport, definitely with the success

1157
00:57:49,044 --> 00:57:53,594
of basketball in those places and how many
people are like young people are moving.

1158
00:57:53,914 --> 00:57:56,554
Oh, yeah, obviously the Super Bowl.

1159
00:57:56,554 --> 00:58:01,114
Those guys, the sorry, we can't say Super
Bowl, the mega plate.

1160
00:58:02,634 --> 00:58:08,534
But yeah, it's Houston's obviously
becoming a hub for entertainment and lots

1161
00:58:08,534 --> 00:58:09,614
of young people moving there.

1162
00:58:09,614 --> 00:58:12,054
So that makes sense for sure.

1163
00:58:12,054 --> 00:58:14,118
They've got the facilities for it.

1164
00:58:14,827 --> 00:58:16,367
I don't like Salt Lake as much.

1165
00:58:16,367 --> 00:58:18,267
I really don't like Atlanta.

1166
00:58:18,927 --> 00:58:23,077
Quebec I do like, but then you're going
against the small market Canadian dollar

1167
00:58:23,077 --> 00:58:23,927
tax.

1168
00:58:23,927 --> 00:58:26,505
It's really, really, it's a huge uphill
battle.

1169
00:58:26,574 --> 00:58:30,934
Yeah, I don't think there's really
feasibly room for another Canadian team.

1170
00:58:31,014 --> 00:58:36,214
Like, there's no other major sport that
has seven Canadian teams.

1171
00:58:36,214 --> 00:58:40,074
Like, there's room for growth in the
States to keep this game profitable,

1172
00:58:40,074 --> 00:58:43,084
because I think at the end of the day, we
need to make more money for this if the

1173
00:58:43,084 --> 00:58:45,394
cap is going to keep going up and yada
yada.

1174
00:58:45,974 --> 00:58:48,814
So if you want a successful one that's
going to be good for the league, I think

1175
00:58:48,814 --> 00:58:51,394
Houston is probably the best pick.

1176
00:58:51,851 --> 00:58:53,742
That's probably my guess as well.

1177
00:58:53,742 --> 00:58:57,214
Kansas, I think you're just gonna struggle
with getting people interested in hockey.

1178
00:58:57,451 --> 00:59:00,051
It'll be good, I think for a couple, like
five years, maybe seven.

1179
00:59:00,051 --> 00:59:04,781
And then after that, it'll just die down
if they're not really like run well or

1180
00:59:04,781 --> 00:59:06,902
like the product on the ice is not that
good.

1181
00:59:06,902 --> 00:59:10,382
Yeah, that's the what it really comes down
to is, I mean, the success of Vegas comes

1182
00:59:10,382 --> 00:59:14,382
from how much the ownership group gave a
shit about winning, right?

1183
00:59:14,382 --> 00:59:16,802
Like they weren't just building a cash
cow.

1184
00:59:16,802 --> 00:59:19,842
They wanted to win and make sure that it
was a product that was going to sustain

1185
00:59:19,842 --> 00:59:20,202
itself.

1186
00:59:20,202 --> 00:59:22,259
And people know what to expect.

1187
00:59:22,259 --> 00:59:25,339
they just got the football team.

1188
00:59:25,339 --> 00:59:29,359
They're getting the baseball team this
year coming up, like Oakland moved to

1189
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:30,399
Vegas.

1190
00:59:30,839 --> 00:59:33,763
So like no other city has that type of
dynamic, but.

1191
00:59:33,870 --> 00:59:39,650
Yeah, it's an interesting way to have your
branding is just winning, but it worked.

1192
00:59:40,270 --> 00:59:42,890
You know, get people used to it.

1193
00:59:42,890 --> 00:59:46,030
Yeah, actually, it's a good point.

1194
00:59:46,350 --> 00:59:51,920
So if somebody is going to actually put
the money in and not just be a billionaire

1195
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,630
who's writing it off, I think that's going
to be the key to success in the southern

1196
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:59,950
states, because you need to really have a
successful team, because people will get

1197
00:59:59,950 --> 01:00:03,090
behind anything that they can cheer for
because it's winning.

1198
01:00:03,090 --> 01:00:03,327
Like.

1199
01:00:03,327 --> 01:00:04,494
Yeah, exactly.

1200
01:00:04,494 --> 01:00:08,494
If you give people an excuse to yell and
cheer and drink, I think people are going

1201
01:00:08,494 --> 01:00:08,914
to go.

1202
01:00:08,914 --> 01:00:11,262
But if the team sucks, then no one's going
to go.

1203
01:00:11,787 --> 01:00:14,154
especially if you have so many other
options.

1204
01:00:14,154 --> 01:00:19,604
Exactly, but the new expansion format does
help that but I mean we're not talking

1205
01:00:19,604 --> 01:00:20,054
expansion.

1206
01:00:20,054 --> 01:00:27,714
We're talking We're talking moving We're
talking moving the coyotes so they're

1207
01:00:27,714 --> 01:00:32,444
They're already mostly set like we talked
about they have a lot of picks It's just

1208
01:00:32,444 --> 01:00:36,734
that the ownership group has been you know
We don't want to really spend the money to

1209
01:00:36,734 --> 01:00:39,184
build a team out and they've just kind of
wrote it off.

1210
01:00:39,184 --> 01:00:39,509
So

1211
01:00:39,509 --> 01:00:42,619
it from like five years to five years to
be the same.

1212
01:00:42,830 --> 01:00:46,260
So I think if someone gives a shit, makes
the right trades, they're not that far

1213
01:00:46,260 --> 01:00:46,440
off.

1214
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,490
You could have a successful product.

1215
01:00:49,070 --> 01:00:51,410
So, yeah, it's there.

1216
01:00:51,410 --> 01:00:56,568
Salt Lake, I think the only advantage is
they've got all the Olympic facilities.

1217
01:00:57,259 --> 01:01:00,639
Yeah, and you get like the upper left West
Coast as well.

1218
01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:04,539
Like it's even like Portland's not a bad
idea to you.

1219
01:01:04,539 --> 01:01:08,161
There's so many hockey fans up in the
Northwest, but.

1220
01:01:10,062 --> 01:01:13,575
It'll interesting to see a Mormon hockey
arena.

1221
01:01:13,575 --> 01:01:15,939
is the second team in Toronto.

1222
01:01:18,058 --> 01:01:19,668
Yeah, I don't know.

1223
01:01:19,668 --> 01:01:23,428
People always talk about this, but like, I
don't know, with the amount of things to

1224
01:01:23,428 --> 01:01:25,948
go to in Toronto, are people going to
really get behind another team?

1225
01:01:25,948 --> 01:01:29,861
Like, I know New York's got two, but like,
how many people are...

1226
01:01:29,861 --> 01:01:34,321
the lease are, like how many people want
to go to hockey games and GTA of like six

1227
01:01:34,321 --> 01:01:35,817
to seven million people.

1228
01:01:35,886 --> 01:01:40,166
Look, speaking objectively, like the Leafs
are the second Leafs.

1229
01:01:40,166 --> 01:01:45,786
The Raptors are the main team in that town
and the second, yeah.

1230
01:01:46,466 --> 01:01:47,450
I mean.

1231
01:01:47,631 --> 01:01:49,251
Maybe not anymore.

1232
01:01:49,491 --> 01:01:51,363
Maybe for a few years, but...

1233
01:01:51,678 --> 01:01:55,408
maybe not this year because they've kind
of moved on from that that core but I'd

1234
01:01:55,408 --> 01:02:02,448
say for like the last 10 years it's been a
lot more people that have been interested

1235
01:02:02,448 --> 01:02:05,788
in the Raptors and spending money on them
and wearing their jerseys around and going

1236
01:02:05,788 --> 01:02:07,579
to the games like those things.

1237
01:02:07,579 --> 01:02:08,459
to see the numbers.

1238
01:02:08,459 --> 01:02:12,679
I think maybe they feel a bit more
prestigious because they've been to

1239
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:14,119
conference finals.

1240
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:18,399
They've obviously won it the one year, but
that's pretty interesting.

1241
01:02:18,510 --> 01:02:22,420
I think they have more of the bandwagon
effect because of that, whereas the Leafs

1242
01:02:22,420 --> 01:02:26,910
just have this, they're always losers
thing where unless you're into them by,

1243
01:02:26,910 --> 01:02:31,488
you know, whatever thing has indoctrinated
you, you kind of avoid them.

1244
01:02:32,427 --> 01:02:36,247
But the Leafs have the thing where like
your father cheered for them your

1245
01:02:36,247 --> 01:02:39,660
grandfather cheered for them This has been
passed on like for generations

1246
01:02:39,660 --> 01:02:40,530
Well, that's what I mean.

1247
01:02:40,530 --> 01:02:44,670
Unless it has been passed on to you, I
feel like people aren't getting into it as

1248
01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:49,790
much as they are picking up, you know,
being a fan of the Raptors of the Jays.

1249
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:56,390
Like, I feel like Leaf fandom is more
inherited than it's, it's more, what,

1250
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:57,830
nature than nurture?

1251
01:02:58,099 --> 01:03:02,159
We're born with it now.

1252
01:03:02,619 --> 01:03:03,538
Evolution.

1253
01:03:03,538 --> 01:03:10,258
So just to bring that back, I think if you
bring another team in, like, it's already

1254
01:03:10,258 --> 01:03:15,748
hard enough to to keep those three teams
afloat as it is, like not they're doing

1255
01:03:15,748 --> 01:03:16,198
badly.

1256
01:03:16,198 --> 01:03:20,048
I think it's just like it's a lot of
attention divided in that city when

1257
01:03:20,048 --> 01:03:21,528
there's a lot of other things going on.

1258
01:03:21,528 --> 01:03:24,138
Like sports are not the biggest thing in
Toronto, right?

1259
01:03:24,138 --> 01:03:27,278
Like it's a big thing, but there's it's
pretty big.

1260
01:03:27,278 --> 01:03:30,466
But there's I'd say there's it's equal to.

1261
01:03:30,466 --> 01:03:35,116
other scenes there that you know I don't
know there's always a hundred concerts

1262
01:03:35,116 --> 01:03:38,879
going on and different things happening
that

1263
01:03:38,879 --> 01:03:43,259
that you have owners with like the deepest
pockets maybe in all of Major Sports

1264
01:03:43,259 --> 01:03:44,799
League like in the top five for sure.

1265
01:03:44,799 --> 01:03:47,182
Rogers is they're so wealthy.

1266
01:03:47,182 --> 01:03:48,142
Yeah.

1267
01:03:48,162 --> 01:03:51,482
And then, I mean, it comes down to who's
going to go up against those guys and own

1268
01:03:51,482 --> 01:03:53,462
a team in Canada.

1269
01:03:53,462 --> 01:03:55,682
Like how many...

1270
01:03:55,682 --> 01:04:02,822
If Galen Weston is going to step up and
set up another team above, he's going to

1271
01:04:02,822 --> 01:04:08,444
expand that old Maple Leaf Gardens above
Loblaws into a brand new...

1272
01:04:08,831 --> 01:04:10,721
because auto will never allow it.

1273
01:04:10,721 --> 01:04:13,315
Lease never allow it and Buffalo will
never allow it.

1274
01:04:13,422 --> 01:04:15,202
Yeah, I think that's what it comes down
to.

1275
01:04:15,202 --> 01:04:17,262
It's all just kind of a pipe dream.

1276
01:04:17,563 --> 01:04:20,352
we'd sooner get an NFL team before a
second NHL team.

1277
01:04:20,352 --> 01:04:23,902
be interesting just because of the off
season times.

1278
01:04:24,502 --> 01:04:31,452
But yeah, yeah, we'll see where the the
Arizona coyotes end up.

1279
01:04:31,452 --> 01:04:35,522
Oh, do you think they'll change the I
guess they'll have to change the name.

1280
01:04:35,522 --> 01:04:37,312
They're not going to keep the coyotes.

1281
01:04:37,567 --> 01:04:40,366
You'll want to disassociate themselves
with that.

1282
01:04:40,366 --> 01:04:43,244
Okay, what would you call them if they go
to Houston?

1283
01:04:44,755 --> 01:04:45,763
Oh god.

1284
01:04:47,659 --> 01:04:49,359
I should thank you about that one.

1285
01:04:50,050 --> 01:04:51,730
Longhorns.

1286
01:04:51,950 --> 01:04:53,437
I don't know.

1287
01:04:53,437 --> 01:04:55,887
Texas already has their Longhorns.

1288
01:04:55,887 --> 01:05:00,879
That would be like encroaching on
something sacrilegious there, I think.

1289
01:05:01,454 --> 01:05:01,964
What do you mean?

1290
01:05:01,964 --> 01:05:03,294
He was in Texas!

1291
01:05:04,235 --> 01:05:09,485
Yeah, but like the University of Texas,
the Longhorns, which might be popular than

1292
01:05:09,485 --> 01:05:11,064
fucking anything in that whole state.

1293
01:05:11,064 --> 01:05:12,494
Yeah, true.

1294
01:05:12,874 --> 01:05:16,734
I think there's there's ways to play
around with that.

1295
01:05:16,734 --> 01:05:18,474
Salt Lake City.

1296
01:05:18,554 --> 01:05:20,714
Who the?

1297
01:05:22,475 --> 01:05:24,755
The land speeders, you're over there.

1298
01:05:24,755 --> 01:05:26,445
There's nothing you can call them.

1299
01:05:26,445 --> 01:05:27,671
The Mormons.

1300
01:05:27,756 --> 01:05:29,236
I was just trying to make a Mormon joke.

1301
01:05:29,236 --> 01:05:31,286
I couldn't think of one.

1302
01:05:31,595 --> 01:05:32,851
polygamists?

1303
01:05:35,531 --> 01:05:36,832
We can scrub that.

1304
01:05:36,832 --> 01:05:43,915
They'll just be called the salt lakes
cities of Latter Day Saints.

1305
01:05:43,915 --> 01:05:47,022
Brought to you by Jesus Every Night.

1306
01:05:47,022 --> 01:05:49,193
Ah, wicked.

1307
01:05:49,193 --> 01:05:50,765
They never go there.

1308
01:05:51,754 --> 01:05:53,274
Alright, that's it for tonight.

1309
01:05:53,274 --> 01:05:54,315
Have a good night everybody.

1310
01:05:54,315 --> 01:05:55,175
think we're done.

1311
01:05:55,175 --> 01:05:56,171
We're done.

1312
01:05:58,283 --> 01:06:00,703
I think it's one of the five games that no
one did.

1313
01:06:00,703 --> 01:06:01,827
Keep going.

1314
01:06:02,868 --> 01:06:04,018
Woo.

1315
01:06:04,211 --> 01:06:05,091
I'm sorry.

1316
01:06:13,134 --> 01:06:15,846
Go, go, go, go, go, go.

1317
01:06:24,972 --> 01:06:25,904
Yeah.