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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys. We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back, better than ever. Oh man, we are better

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<v Speaker 1>than ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine? Yeah, you imagine how much better we

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<v Speaker 2>would be than ever?

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<v Speaker 1>If what?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Well, you know, I think I'm just hoping.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I told you this, be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>One of my favorite phrases of one of the trainers

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<v Speaker 3>at our church, because there's a gym there's an HFP

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<v Speaker 3>Heritage Fitness Project is as you're working out and you're

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<v Speaker 3>like sweating, and you're like and you're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>losing motivation, he goes, he goes one.

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<v Speaker 1>Percent better today.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's one percent better today, And so it's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a great phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to work out times. I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>and you are better than you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's correct, which means you can triple yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Or not, but yeah or not. I like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>like the sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the sentiment's good.

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't know, we're better than ever today, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to give it our best shot.

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<v Speaker 1>We are, that's correct. So we're going to start.

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<v Speaker 2>With a yawn. Yeah, apparently so lighting. We just said

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<v Speaker 2>better than ever and he starts yawning like I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Carry any load lighting if you know me, Yes, any

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<v Speaker 1>low lighting makes me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is who's most likely most likely?

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<v Speaker 2>And we love this segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So the goal is just to read the question.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take turns of reading them, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we'll just have to decide who's most likely to

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<v Speaker 3>do this Jeff or Chris?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, I'll go the first. Go first.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's most likely to be the first one to sign

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<v Speaker 3>up to go skydiving?

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<v Speaker 2>We've already done this one like this about skydiving before,

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<v Speaker 2>so it has to be me. Yeah, Well, because you

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<v Speaker 2>went skydiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've gone three times and your insurance prevents you.

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<v Speaker 2>From Yeah, insurance won't let me do it. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a key man policy and it specifically forbids me

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<v Speaker 2>from skydiving right now. Because I wanted to go with

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<v Speaker 2>my son when he turned eighteen, I couldn't go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I've done it three times, and honestly, the

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<v Speaker 1>last time I went, the last.

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<v Speaker 2>Time I went crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>The last time I went, I remember literally jumping out,

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<v Speaker 3>and as I'm jumping out, I remember thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>this would be the last time I do this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've done this three times, two twice before. It was

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<v Speaker 3>almost like uh huh yeah, literally, I can't believe that

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<v Speaker 3>I felt that.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, Wow, but I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There are times of chime. Okay, who's most likely

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to school and get their PhD in

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<v Speaker 2>something random?

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<v Speaker 1>That would definitely be you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what. I was accepted in a doctoral

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<v Speaker 2>program this year and then paused and decided not to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well yeah, yeah, So I went through the whole process,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the day I was supposed to register, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for classes, I decided not to. It's just my schedule

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<v Speaker 2>is so hard. I couldn't imagine adding yep, that extra

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<v Speaker 2>work to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's actually why I stopped my master's degree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was working for to get my master's when my

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<v Speaker 3>kids were young, and it was so unbelievably difficult that

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that my masters wouldn't at the church current

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<v Speaker 3>church I was at. It wouldn't pay me anymore, It's

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<v Speaker 3>not that type of church, and it would just be bragging. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I got my master's and it was like, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like, why am I doing this? I'm pretty sure? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, knowledge is good obviously, Yeah, but I can

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<v Speaker 3>gain knowledge without working my tail off like this, right, I'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to think. So I like to think I's equivalent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well here thirty years later, right, So but yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I passed on one this year. But yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Number three, who's most likely to climb Mount Everest? I

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<v Speaker 3>already know immediately who this is. That's definitely you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think climbing Mount Everest is the dumbest thing I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard. It is so dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, a lot of people died doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hence the dumb right. I told you I have

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<v Speaker 1>no compassion.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I saw the movies, you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>like they go up and then they freeze and then

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<v Speaker 3>they die, and are people.

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<v Speaker 1>Are like, oh, that's so sad. I'm like, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they deserve because because they have the courage

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<v Speaker 2>to try to do something nobody else can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you think was gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, some people make it, some people do but guess what,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh did you hear about the tragy amount Everest, would

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<v Speaker 3>you think was going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, and you signed up for it, so so

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<v Speaker 2>believe it or not. I'm not a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>thin air. Yeah, right, So I don't like to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we were in Chad night, were in the h

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<v Speaker 2>in right on the border of Tibet in China, and

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<v Speaker 2>the village that we were in, it was all Tibetans,

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<v Speaker 2>was at a little over eleven thousand feet it was

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<v Speaker 2>eleven or twelve thousand feet, and just walking around because

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<v Speaker 2>we were only there for two days and so you

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have much time to acclimatize at that at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, and so then there was a out of breath. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so just kind of huffing and puffing a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a fifteen hundred year old or older, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hundred year old temple at the top of this

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go see it, right, right, And so

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<v Speaker 2>we get about a third of the way up on

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<v Speaker 2>the stairs and I'm like, ah, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go see it that bad, right right right, And it

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<v Speaker 2>was just it was just the thin air. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a big fan of thin air, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>have a desire to do the trek to base Camp Foreverest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. And that's like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten day hike from LASA and you go up over

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen thousand feet before you get to the end of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it takes like ten days to do. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>bucket list before I turn fifty five, which means I

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<v Speaker 2>only have a year and a half left, two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're going to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna find a way. I

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<v Speaker 2>already I already have the sherpa. He's a friend of mine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he told me he'd put it together if I

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<v Speaker 2>would go. So I got it. I got yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So twenty twenty five is the year I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>to where I can do it. I have a bad knee,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's my one issue. But if I can get

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<v Speaker 2>that fixed, and I think I want to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've done pair of sailing, I've done rock climbing,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been repelling.

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<v Speaker 2>Hire a helicopter and fly up there that I could

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<v Speaker 2>do that too.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I've done skydiving, I've done I've done some

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<v Speaker 3>crazy things for some reason. I do not want to

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<v Speaker 3>fight nature. Okay, that's that's what I don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want to fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to bend it to your will. Okay. Who's

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<v Speaker 2>most likely to start a petting zoo in their backyard?

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<v Speaker 2>You are? You are?

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<v Speaker 1>Be me?

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<v Speaker 2>You are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, my wife would love it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just talking about love love. I mean love, love, love,

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<v Speaker 1>love love. She would love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have deer in our backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>Our deer come and my wife puts together these little

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<v Speaker 3>bird feeders and they love the corn out of the

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<v Speaker 3>bird feeder, and then the squirrels do too. And at

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<v Speaker 3>one point in time she was spending like three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a month to feed the deer. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, I said, have you totaled it up?

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, no, I didn't total it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I told her. And she's like, oh, I better stop that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like I think you better, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And man, those deer were fat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we stopped because who can afford that? That's a

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<v Speaker 3>car payment?

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<v Speaker 2>Almost all right?

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<v Speaker 1>And then finally, how about this one?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's most likely to become a part time superhero.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, I am too.

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<v Speaker 2>You are. Yeah, that's me running around the Cape Crusader. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>running around your long John's with a towel around your neck.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's I wonder if it's implying superpowers,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't think I would do it without superpowers, right, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't do it like Batman style.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I hate Batman. You know that, I hate

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<v Speaker 1>him so so the hates a strong word.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a strong word. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I don't like about Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the most believable of the superheroes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what my wife would say. Yeah, my wife

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<v Speaker 3>actually likes the non powered superheroes.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Batman, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>You do know the thing I don't like about Batman is.

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<v Speaker 3>That they make him do unrealistic things and he's only

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<v Speaker 3>a guy. Like did you see the the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the of what's the Justice League movie? When he's when

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<v Speaker 3>he's when he's dragging behind this car. He's just a guy, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>He's just a guy. There's no way he could possibly

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<v Speaker 3>do the things that they had him do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I saw it in the movie. He did it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was crazy speaking of not being able to possibly

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<v Speaker 2>just being a guy could possibly do these things. Elisha

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<v Speaker 2>does a ton of miracles, and the people start recognizing this,

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<v Speaker 2>and even the kings start to pay attention to him.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's possible for just a guy, he's just right,

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<v Speaker 2>just a guy to do amazing things.

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<v Speaker 1>And so does he say, like I'm Batman, So does

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<v Speaker 1>he say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Elisha, I'm a prophet, I'm a profit. So in

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<v Speaker 2>Second King's chapter three, there's a war between Israel and Moab.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, King Misha of Moab was a sheep breeder.

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<v Speaker 2>He used to pay the King of Israel an annual

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<v Speaker 2>tribute of one hundred thousand lambs and the wool of

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand rams holy Cow. But after Ahab's death,

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<v Speaker 2>Jehosaphat replied, why, of course, you and I are as one.

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<v Speaker 2>Judah and Edom went to consult with Elisha. Why are

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<v Speaker 2>red to the Moabites like blood. It's blood, the Mobites exclaimed,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go, Madam Moab and collecked the plunder. But when

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<v Speaker 2>The army Israel chased them into the land of Moab,

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<v Speaker 2>Har Harrisath and its stone walls were left, but men

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<v Speaker 3>Bible that talks about when it says I ruined they

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<v Speaker 1>And but that's what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>They would take stones and they would just mess up

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<v Speaker 3>all and again what it is is, you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems very harsh obviously, but Ahab would have been completely

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<v Speaker 1>But when ahab died.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen this before, right, when when when a president

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<v Speaker 3>president that appears weak. Right, all of a sudden, we

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<v Speaker 3>we have war in Russia. So so anyway, the point

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<v Speaker 3>is is that that's that's what's happening. And so he's uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna in fact, I'm gonna go to war. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>And uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And what Israel is doing and what God is helping

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<v Speaker 3>Israel do, is making a statement that says, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>of the God of Israel. So this is a statement

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<v Speaker 3>about about the people who serve God. It's not just

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<v Speaker 3>a statement about kings and power. It's a statement about

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<v Speaker 3>don't mess with God is what it is right. And

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<v Speaker 3>so therefore they're like, Okay, if you want to rebel

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<v Speaker 1>Going to pay. So they filled all the wells.

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<v Speaker 3>They so they got shovels and and and or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>Made the land not unusable. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, and uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, another thing about the life application

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<v Speaker 3>study Bible is uh, as soon as you see one map,

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<v Speaker 3>you understand everything, right. So so this is as many

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<v Speaker 3>people understand, the Sea of Galilee's on the northern part

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<v Speaker 3>of Israel, the Dead Seas on the southern part of Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the Jordan River sort of connects the two,

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<v Speaker 3>then the the wilderness of Edom is actually just south

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<v Speaker 3>of the Dead Sea, right, So they would have gone

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And so that would be in what is modern

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which which, by the way, you were there like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple months a.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be there again shortly. But yeah. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>as you're heading from Aman down towards Petra. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>this is on the way, although Petra didn't exist in

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<v Speaker 2>these days. This is eight hundred and fifty years before

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus and Petro was was going on in the time

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<v Speaker 2>of Jesus that those Navitaeans were about the same time

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<v Speaker 2>as Jesus. So but anyways, this is a pretty rugged

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<v Speaker 2>area and a rough area, and these Moabites are wicked people,

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<v Speaker 2>evil people. So a lot of times people ask man Alive,

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems unreasonable that, you know, God would would

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<v Speaker 2>fight all these tribes around Israel all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>that God would would help Israel wipe them out, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems okay. So when this Moabite king, after

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<v Speaker 2>he's done fighting the Israelites and realizes we're probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to lose, he sacrifices the crown prince in a burnt

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<v Speaker 2>offering right on the wall in front of everybody. Right, so,

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<v Speaker 2>no wonder God goes after these people. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that the average reader, as you plow through the Old Testament,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times we miss those because that's one sentence, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That was one sentence. The king of Moab took his

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<v Speaker 2>oldest son who would have been the next king, and

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<v Speaker 2>sacrificed him as a burno offering on the wall, and

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<v Speaker 2>then just keep going one sentence. Right. So, every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while you'll hear somebody go, you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>was Christopher Hitchins, one of the main atheist you know, philosophers,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, you know, I don't like the God

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<v Speaker 2>of the Old Testament because he commitsed genocide right in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible whatever. And I'm like, I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I can comprehend how unbelievably and completely evil

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<v Speaker 2>these people were. Yeah, their culture was such that the

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<v Speaker 2>people after that, it says, so there was great anger

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<v Speaker 2>against Israel. Now look what you made me do. Look

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<v Speaker 2>what you made our king do. They were not horrified

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<v Speaker 2>at what their king did. They were horrified at what

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<v Speaker 2>Israel was doing. Right. So Israel comes in and goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not paying your taxes anymore. The only reason why

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<v Speaker 2>we let you live is because you give us one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand sheep and one hundred thousand coats of wool

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<v Speaker 2>from the rams, and you stopped paying. We're coming to collect. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a government thing. Those are two governments working

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<v Speaker 2>things out. You stop paying, there's consequences. That's that This king,

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<v Speaker 2>this evil king, gets up and sacrifices his son in

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<v Speaker 2>a burnt offering on the wall, the web, the city,

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<v Speaker 2>the would be king. He sacrificed the crown prince. That's

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<v Speaker 2>right in front of the people. And the people are

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<v Speaker 2>not mad at their king. They're mad at Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they probably believe in that sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 2>They were totally saturated with evil in every way. Now

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<v Speaker 2>here's a king willing to sacrifice his son and the

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<v Speaker 2>burn offering in front of everybody. But what we know

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<v Speaker 2>about the worship this was Chimash was the god that

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<v Speaker 2>he would have been worshiping there, but the gods of

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<v Speaker 2>Bail and Molek and all these other gods Ashtereth. The

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<v Speaker 2>sex issues, the sexual issues in worship were as evil

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<v Speaker 2>as these human sacrifices were evil and the full on hedonism,

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<v Speaker 2>although hedonism was more of a Greek thing. But this

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<v Speaker 2>self indult legence was so incomprehensibly evil to us that

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<v Speaker 2>this is why God goes No, you have to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of them. They're all completely permeated with this idea.

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<v Speaker 2>They will never change, their children will never change, their

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<v Speaker 2>great grandchildren will never change. Right, That's what God's because

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<v Speaker 2>God's not bound by time he's able to look into

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<v Speaker 2>time and go, it's never it's only going to get worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And God says the planet is better if we stop

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<v Speaker 2>it now, then to let it keep getting worse and

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<v Speaker 2>worse and worse and worse and worse. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>look at this and go, dude, anybody who who could

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<v Speaker 2>co sign what this king just did deserves what the

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<v Speaker 2>Mobiites get, right. We can't let that go unchecked. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's just from a regular citizen. But God in his

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<v Speaker 2>holiness looking at this and going, these people are only

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<v Speaker 2>evil continually. Everything they think to do is evil.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And you know we have to understand as well.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Old Testament, even even back in David's time,

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<v Speaker 3>when David was given the assignment of going to war

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<v Speaker 3>in conquering countries, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the same Joshua, same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not just in this instance, it is it

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<v Speaker 3>is a theme throughout the Old Testament, right, And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a great point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And so these people are mad at Israel, They're

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<v Speaker 2>not mad at their king. It just it blows my

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<v Speaker 2>mind here on these things. So anyways, the the issue

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<v Speaker 2>I think too and we kind of blew past. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Elisha's like, why are you coming to me? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And it is interesting to me. You've got these. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got the wicked King of Israel, Joram, You've got the

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<v Speaker 2>wicked King of who's the other one that they went

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<v Speaker 2>to get help.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph about the third king?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, either there's a third third king, the king of

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<v Speaker 2>they're both god less, well they have gods, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>not following the true God. And Jehosaphat goes, well, we

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<v Speaker 2>need some help. Let's go find a prophet. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any prophets, and like, oh, yeah, there's that Elisha guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one of the notes just glanced down while you

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<v Speaker 3>were talking, and one of the notes says, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>why didn't Jehosaphat bring his own profit? Right? And so

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<v Speaker 3>it just goes to show you that, you know, there

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<v Speaker 3>there there was a decline towards the end of Johosaphat's

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<v Speaker 3>reign and so and so you know here he is

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<v Speaker 3>looking for one as opposed to bringing one into battle, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet yeah, yes, of course he's the one that

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<v Speaker 3>recognizes Elisha's authority. Elisha announces the only reason why he's

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<v Speaker 3>even entertaining this is because of his respect for Josphat.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously he is a still godly king. But the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that that Jospat didn't have one ready, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't have one. He didn't he didn't say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going to go into battle without these fifty prophets,

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<v Speaker 3>right right, or this, you know, or these three prophets

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. He has to go look for one, which

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And and by the way, Elisha says, who has a harp?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And so Elisha, oftentimes it was not uncommon for music

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<v Speaker 3>to be played behind a prophet, right, And so think

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<v Speaker 3>about this dramatic unveiling.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, God's gonna bring you water. There's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>no wind or rain, but there's just gonna be water.

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<v Speaker 3>In the harp's playing, you know. And there's this dramatic,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, unveiling of what God is saying. I would

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<v Speaker 3>have liked to have been there for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a regular occurrence where prophets in music are

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<v Speaker 2>going together, right in this throughout the Bible, I had

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<v Speaker 2>seen a note in there. First Chronicles twenty five to

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<v Speaker 2>one is another place where the prophets and music go together.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens many many times in the Bible, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the reasons why I think it conditions

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<v Speaker 2>your heart to hear from God in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when when you and I just do everyday stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the logical mental engagement with life and you're just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make a decision whatever. But when when you

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<v Speaker 2>bring out the music you're in leaning into it, you

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<v Speaker 2>start thinking from the other side of your brain, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that scientifically, you start working on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, and I think you tend to be

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<v Speaker 2>more emotionally open as well, and so you're completely open

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<v Speaker 2>to God. This is why we we lead in worship

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<v Speaker 2>and UH in our services before we declare the word

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<v Speaker 2>of God, because that's what prophets do. Prophets come and

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<v Speaker 2>bring God's word to God's people, right, That's that's their job,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. And so before we do that, we always

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<v Speaker 2>UH spend time in worship, singing, and those two things

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<v Speaker 2>accompany each other. Hearing from God. And as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, you know, in what is it is it

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<v Speaker 2>Efesians when when God says and don't be drunk with wine,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead we're in his excess. But be filled with

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<v Speaker 2>the spirit. Right, And then he says a sign of

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<v Speaker 2>being filled with the spirit, which remember when when it

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<v Speaker 2>said earlier and the spirit of God came upon Elijah Elijha. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>be filled with the spirit. Singing to yourselves and psalms

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<v Speaker 2>and hymns and spiritual songs. You're singing and making melloy

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<v Speaker 2>to the Lord. You're giving thanks and making melley the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>And so those tend to go together. This, this spirit,

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<v Speaker 2>the move the spirit of God in you, worship music,

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<v Speaker 2>declaration of God's word ath tend to be connected together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great, that's great, pretty incredible. Well, hey, that

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<v Speaker 1>is our time, so hopefully we will see you tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bible Gus