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Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks were joined by Mike Cahill from Pyth and Niklas Kunkel from Chronicle discuss how oracles are transforming from simple price feeds into critical infrastructure for tokenized real-world assets. They explore the explosive growth in tokenized money market funds and CLOs, the shift toward B2B adoption by DeFi protocols rather than retail, and new business models—Pyth's data subscription hit $1M ARR in weeks while Chronicle scaled to $6B in tokenized funds in under a year.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
02:06 - Pyth's RWA Origins
05:25 - Going Cross-Chain
07:51 - Oracle Competition Metrics
12:04 - Chronicle's DeFi Journey
17:17 - Retail vs Institutional
23:21 - Corporate Chains
34:27 - Pyth Reserve & Buybacks
41:24 - Building Without a Token
45:47 - 2026 Predictions
Guest links:
Pyth - https://x.com/PythNetwork
Mike Cahill - https://x.com/mdomcahill
Chronicle - https://x.com/ChronicleLabs
Niklas Kunkel - https://x.com/nomos_paradox
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Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks were joined by Mike Cahill from Pyth and Niklas Kunkel from Chronicle discuss how oracles are transforming from simple price feeds into critical infrastructure for tokenized real-world assets. They explore the explosive growth in tokenized money market funds and CLOs, the shift toward B2B adoption by DeFi protocols rather than retail, and new business models—Pyth's data subscription hit $1M ARR in weeks while Chronicle scaled to $6B in tokenized funds in under a year.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction 02:06 - Pyth's RWA Origins 05:25 - Going Cross-Chain 07:51 - Oracle Competition Metrics 12:04 - Chronicle's DeFi Journey 17:17 - Retail vs Institutional 23:21 - Corporate Chains 34:27 - Pyth Reserve & Buybacks 41:24 - Building Without a Token 45:47 - 2026 Predictions
Guest links:
Pyth - https://x.com/PythNetwork
Mike Cahill - https://x.com/mdomcahill
Chronicle - https://x.com/ChronicleLabs
Niklas Kunkel - https://x.com/nomos_paradox
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The Crypto Beat is a live streaming podcast focused on topical crypto news events. The podcast will feature multiple guests who are deep in the crypto industry sharing their views on the topic of the day. It will be available across X, Twitch and YouTube and made available afterwards on popular audio platforms.