1 00:00:02,100 --> 00:00:07,620 Mike coming to you from crash studios in Music City, USA, 2 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:12,600 Nashville. This is the rich Redmond show. What's up, 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,920 folks? It's that time. It's time for on always exciting episode 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,220 of the rich Redmond show, we talk all about all things like 5 00:00:22,220 --> 00:00:26,480 music, motivation, success and so many other things. It's a 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,420 free flowing conversation. Of course, I'm joined today by my 7 00:00:29,420 --> 00:00:32,900 co host, co producer, fantastic, all around guy, drummer, 8 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:38,420 entrepreneur, Jim Carthy, entrepreneur, entrepreneur, 9 00:00:38,420 --> 00:00:40,840 yeah, yeah. So we've been knocking these things out, man, 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,600 like talking to a lot of fantastic drummers today is no 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,080 different. Are 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,260 we having fun or what just feels good to do these in person 13 00:00:47,260 --> 00:00:47,980 again, doesn't it? I 14 00:00:47,980 --> 00:00:50,380 know I'm keeping my six feet from you. Oh gosh, 15 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:53,320 yes. It just, it just breaks my heart that we had to do that for 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,980 700 days. I will never recover. 17 00:00:56,979 --> 00:01:00,039 What did we learn from that? Absolutely nothing. 18 00:01:01,659 --> 00:01:05,699 Put some echo on that buddy, nothing, nothing, nothing. So, 19 00:01:05,699 --> 00:01:08,219 hey, we got some time straight constraints today. Usually we 20 00:01:08,219 --> 00:01:11,519 can meander for about two hours see where things take us. But I 21 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:14,999 want to shine a light on this gentleman today from the 22 00:01:14,999 --> 00:01:19,019 Chicagoland, world class drummer, award winning drummer, 23 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:22,219 seven years younger than me, and think, speaking of seven years, 24 00:01:22,219 --> 00:01:27,439 7.5 years, he's been calling Nashville home. He's all around. 25 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:30,919 Fantastic drummer for the last 21 years has been the drummer in 26 00:01:30,919 --> 00:01:35,359 unfreeze McGee. And you know, that's a catter categorize 27 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:39,319 Uncategorized band. They blend genres. It's an amazing thing. 28 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:42,699 They've got 2700 live shows under their belt, 14 studio 29 00:01:42,699 --> 00:01:46,479 albums, 21 years My guest has been there. We're talking about 30 00:01:46,479 --> 00:01:48,159 our friend, Chris myers. Whoa, pal. 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Whoa. What an introduction. 32 00:01:51,220 --> 00:01:53,920 Well, we try to Wow. We try to go very Hollywood, you know, 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,720 like cue the timpani. Are you doing rich? Thank you that band 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,560 of yours. You know this is that one of the joys of my life is I 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,580 get to shine a light on my friends, old and new, and I get 36 00:02:05,580 --> 00:02:08,820 to do a deeper dive into their style. So I was on the YouTube 37 00:02:08,820 --> 00:02:12,300 last night. Was watching all your rig rundowns and these drum 38 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:15,420 solos, you know, promoting Pearl drums. It's you are such a 39 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:19,200 fantastic all around player. I mean, it's like this one video 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,640 you did this open drum solo. It started with kind of like a a 41 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:26,300 James Brown groove, but it had, like more Garibaldi in there, 42 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:28,700 and then, before you know it, you were into some weckle, and 43 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:32,780 then some second line stuff using every the rims and half 44 00:02:32,780 --> 00:02:35,900 rim shots and full rim shots and choking symbols in the bell of 45 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:38,600 the symbol over here, and the some Ding, ding harmonics. I was 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:38,960 like, This 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,420 guy is great. Rum titty, Ding dings and Dum Dums. So, I 48 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:47,440 mean, I know where. I mean, your band gives you that ultimate 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,560 platform to to play all these different styles. But something 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,760 tells me you you just always loved a lot of different kinds 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,240 of music. 52 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,020 Yeah, that's probably why I don't get too many gigs, because 53 00:02:59,020 --> 00:03:02,280 I just play too much. I do all the styles at once in one 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,580 minute. 55 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:06,420 But your band, I mean, you're, it's gotta be great to be in a 56 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:08,640 band like that, where that, where it's like, you're doing 57 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:10,680 like a song that sounds like, yes, you're doing a song that 58 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,660 sounds like Zappa. And then boom, there's a straight down 59 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:15,000 the middle Michael Jackson sounding thing, and then there's 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,120 like a three, four, power, six, eight, kind of a thing. And 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,780 everybody in the audience is we, I saw you guys at the rhyme, and 62 00:03:20,780 --> 00:03:23,360 it was like, your fans are rabid. Yes, 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,760 they are. They're, they're, we're very grateful for them, 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,760 and they are part of our success and our build together. We, 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,360 we're all artists almost together. Yeah, united, yeah. 66 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:34,940 And that's, that's amazing, and thanks for even noticing that. I 67 00:03:34,940 --> 00:03:38,600 mean the merch, I mean the website is fantastic. You guys 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,400 have, like, posters and art pieces and wearable art. And 69 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,680 you, of course, you gotta have the coffee mugs and all that 70 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,140 stuff, right? So, how did it happen for you? How did you get 71 00:03:47,140 --> 00:03:49,600 on these guys's radars? So 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,620 basically, I was going to grad school DePaul in Chicago. Yeah, 73 00:03:53,620 --> 00:04:00,720 back in the old days, 2000 to 2002 and had no recollection or 74 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,640 knowledge of fries. McGee and I was doing local stuff. And, you 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,760 know, jobbing gigs, as they call them in Chicago, society gigs, 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,420 weddings, bar mitzvahs, corporate parties. Get that tux. 77 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:15,480 Yep, yeah, I still have it unfortunately, and it's really 78 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,860 old and gross, yeah, I finally sell it. They're sold it, yeah, 79 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,000 no. But I basically was, you know, looking for a change of 80 00:04:26,060 --> 00:04:28,760 pace, because the industry was also changing at that time, if 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,020 you recall, free downloads and studio work was becoming more 82 00:04:33,020 --> 00:04:38,000 scarce, and that's exactly what I wanted to do. And I managed to 83 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,200 do some stuff, which was great, but I couldn't make a living 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,520 doing it just like, you know, based on my generation. So the 85 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,120 option was doing live shows, you know, just basically touring. 86 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,740 And a friend of mine just told me his name is Brian Abraham. I 87 00:04:53,740 --> 00:04:58,840 owe it all to him. And Brian, yeah, and he recommended me to 88 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:01,560 audition for this band. Called umphreys McGee. And I was like, 89 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,740 Humphrey Mc What, you know, I was like, This is what kind of a 90 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:10,380 kind of rock and roll is this? Yeah, no. But then I listened to 91 00:05:10,380 --> 00:05:14,100 it, and I was like, wow, this is amazing, because these guys, um, 92 00:05:14,220 --> 00:05:17,880 you know, change the styles, but in a tasteful way, and they're 93 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,320 very intelligent with the music and the the arrangements. So I 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,920 was like, Well, I'm gonna try give this a shot. And so it 95 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,620 turned out that the manager lived in 15 minutes from my 96 00:05:27,620 --> 00:05:31,760 house. I just back in you had just press kits, you know, not E 97 00:05:31,820 --> 00:05:37,280 electronic, yes, yeah, no, EP case, just PKS, and you would 98 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,720 mail it, drive it over to the mailbox. That's what I did. 99 00:05:41,380 --> 00:05:43,720 Ironically, it was the first package they received of 100 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,660 literally hundreds of applicants, which was very 101 00:05:46,660 --> 00:05:48,940 serendipitous. I think, you know, it was, Oh, you were the 102 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,820 first one to get it there. That was the first one, yeah, that 103 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:53,980 they received and to get it there. Nice. So, 104 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:56,740 did they listen to anybody else? Or is it just like, this is the 105 00:05:56,740 --> 00:05:57,640 guy? Well, they 106 00:05:57,639 --> 00:06:02,639 did. But they the way they described it was, I was like, 107 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,759 when I showed him my demo, which is a hilarious picture, by the 108 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:11,519 way, the cover of my demo was, like, me in like a GQ suit and, 109 00:06:11,579 --> 00:06:15,239 like a really clean cut haircut, and he's kind of doing a pose, 110 00:06:15,659 --> 00:06:20,899 and Olin Mills, yeah, I think it was just a, you know, a quick 111 00:06:20,899 --> 00:06:24,259 demo CD for me to just show you, you know, any opportunity I can 112 00:06:24,259 --> 00:06:28,699 get for whatever and part of the industry. So I did that. And, 113 00:06:29,419 --> 00:06:32,539 all right, they heard that, and then they came back. And then 114 00:06:32,539 --> 00:06:35,599 they heard my other band, which is, at that time, was kick the 115 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,660 cat. Kick the cat, yeah, fusion band, yes. Thank 116 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:41,980 you. Yeah, yeah. Those guys are all my homies, I have seen him 117 00:06:42,340 --> 00:06:46,360 in about a couple months, but we, you know, we've always 118 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,760 continued to have a friendship, and we played together and 119 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,780 toured. And, yeah, they heard that, and they were like, Whoa, 120 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:56,500 shit. This is like, more than we expected for our applicants. And 121 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:59,380 they're like, this is gonna be great, yeah. And then the rest 122 00:06:59,380 --> 00:07:00,600 they what was 123 00:07:01,139 --> 00:07:04,439 like? It was like, hey, the third song off of our 17th 124 00:07:04,439 --> 00:07:05,339 record. Yeah, 125 00:07:05,340 --> 00:07:08,580 pretty much it wasn't the 17th at the time. It was probably the 126 00:07:08,580 --> 00:07:09,180 third, 127 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,420 third, yeah. So who is this other fellow, Mike Miro. 128 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,080 So Mike Miro was the original member, original drummer, yeah, 129 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:21,020 and rest in peace. And, you know, God, rest his soul. Oh, 130 00:07:21,020 --> 00:07:24,080 man. And he asked, that's why they need he did no, but he 131 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:30,020 didn't pass until later. Yeah, but anyway, he was basically in 132 00:07:30,020 --> 00:07:32,480 the band because they were all at school together. It's the 133 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,500 story is great. They went to Notre Dame, and they were 134 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:40,100 success story from, you know, a place that normally doesn't 135 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:41,740 bring or breed Rock Band 136 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,400 South Bend, Indiana band that's South Bend. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, 137 00:07:45,399 --> 00:07:52,119 he was there and was with them for at least four or five years. 138 00:07:52,719 --> 00:07:58,359 And basically he needed to make an opportunity or change in his 139 00:07:58,359 --> 00:08:01,739 life. And he made a career to change, and wanted to do pursue 140 00:08:01,739 --> 00:08:05,999 medicine doctor. Because I think his dad really wanted him to go 141 00:08:05,999 --> 00:08:10,919 on that path as well, and he was open to it. So, you know, these, 142 00:08:10,919 --> 00:08:15,059 these things happen, life changes. And so he, he was just 143 00:08:15,359 --> 00:08:21,019 leaving as of 2003 and I, I auditioned, I played, you know 144 00:08:21,319 --> 00:08:24,799 the first New Year's show as a feature on one of the songs I 145 00:08:24,799 --> 00:08:28,279 learned. And the first song was called, uh, hurt bird bath. Hurt 146 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:29,479 bird bath. Yeah, I 147 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,940 like that. You guys don't take these are too seriously on 148 00:08:31,940 --> 00:08:35,360 the title. Yes, that's right, that is correct. Yeah. 149 00:08:35,420 --> 00:08:39,800 I mean, so, so the guys in the band, you got Brendan, Joel, um, 150 00:08:39,860 --> 00:08:43,420 Jake Andy Ryan, and that's you, Chris. I mean, that's right, 151 00:08:43,420 --> 00:08:46,060 it's got to be a brotherhood all these years, 21 years, you 152 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:48,580 finish each other's sentences. Does everybody live all over the 153 00:08:48,580 --> 00:08:51,700 place? And you guys come to the first is that how it works? 154 00:08:51,700 --> 00:08:55,900 Yep, pretty much. Yeah, yeah. We, we had started. We started 155 00:08:55,900 --> 00:09:01,500 breaking off. I'd say around 2000 maybe 10 or so. Everyone 156 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:05,340 started moving away when they got married. And Joel's out in 157 00:09:05,340 --> 00:09:09,840 Santa, Monica Ryan's in Charleston, South Carolina. And 158 00:09:10,620 --> 00:09:15,300 you know, Jake is, he was in South Bend, and now he's in back 159 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:18,060 in Niles, Michigan, where he's from. Well, actually, he's an 160 00:09:18,060 --> 00:09:22,100 UPS, upstate Michigan, which, you know, Traverse City gotcha, 161 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:26,780 yeah. And then, you know, Andy's in Chicago again. And, yeah, 162 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:29,540 Brennan's there still. He's been the one that's been holding fort 163 00:09:29,540 --> 00:09:33,080 in the city the longest, the north side. So, Chicago, yeah, 164 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:33,800 Chicago. 165 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:37,159 So exactly, 166 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,920 that's the best spot for the deep dish. Are you? Were you a 167 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,180 deep did you become a deep dish guy? Or, like, was is that your 168 00:09:43,180 --> 00:09:46,840 preference? Or would you like a New Yorker? But, yeah. But when 169 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,480 you have a New York, yes, you get to fold it in half. It's 170 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,560 very mobile. 171 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,759 That is a valid it's a valid point and, and, you know, a tip 172 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:58,179 of the hat to, you know, the New York style, and Chicago style is 173 00:09:58,179 --> 00:10:01,559 just what I grew up with. And I have. Have a couple different 174 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,259 types of, you know, not just deep dish, but also your your 175 00:10:04,439 --> 00:10:07,739 thin crust and your stuffed crust. Yeah, I love it, yeah. 176 00:10:07,799 --> 00:10:11,219 And the only thing is that they cut squares instead of triangle, 177 00:10:11,219 --> 00:10:11,579 you know, who 178 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:13,500 does that is, um, Sicilians, 179 00:10:13,620 --> 00:10:18,420 yeah, they got a Cillian slice. Is, like a deep dish, Chicago 180 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,140 type of slice, you know, don't ask me how I'm jets. 181 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,860 Jets does a good deep, deep dish locally. 182 00:10:24,980 --> 00:10:26,120 Those words that's good to know, 183 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,440 strike those words from your mouth. No, it's pretty good. No, 184 00:10:31,340 --> 00:10:35,660 no, this is always, or be a sponsor of this podcast. Come 185 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:38,300 on. You got to go with Joey's house of pizza. You know, those 186 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:39,140 types of places I'm 187 00:10:39,140 --> 00:10:42,220 just saying, for a deep dish jets is pretty good because it's 188 00:10:42,220 --> 00:10:44,380 like, you know, point 01, miles from my house. It 189 00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:46,660 always gives me the runs. I don't know why. Well, I 190 00:10:46,659 --> 00:10:49,539 mean, Geez, you're talking to a guy that has the runs as a basic 191 00:10:49,539 --> 00:10:51,519 leg, like my modus operandi. You have 192 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,000 a glass of water, you got to go take a dump. It's like, Hey 193 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,360 guys, 194 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:58,659 stool today. It's a very special day. 195 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,700 We can go there sometimes. So TMI, I like on the I like on the 196 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,660 the the website, you guys keep a list of the venues that you have 197 00:11:09,660 --> 00:11:12,240 played at, how many times? I mean, that's like the that's 198 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,880 like a cool feature of a band that is a working band. I mean, 199 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,740 you guys are playing all the cool spots, Bonnaroo, 200 00:11:16,740 --> 00:11:19,980 Lollapalooza, Austin, city limits, South by Southwest. Red 201 00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:23,000 Rocks, the rhyme, and saw you guys there the beacon. Got any 202 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,760 favorite spots? Do you because you guys do wineries, you do 203 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,620 theaters, you do festivals, you do sheds. Yeah. 204 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:34,820 I mean, we do a lot of different things that they, you know, give 205 00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:38,300 us the opportunity to to attempt, and we're always open 206 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:42,340 to the challenge. And the rooms are always changing. Yep, they 207 00:11:42,340 --> 00:11:46,420 especially are these days for everyone, yeah, you know. But 208 00:11:46,420 --> 00:11:49,120 yeah, Red Rocks is probably my favorite. I mean, it's 209 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,080 undeniable, right? Yeah, if you can do that, you know, that's a 210 00:11:53,140 --> 00:11:58,780 one to check off the list, and that is as far as venues go. I 211 00:11:58,780 --> 00:12:02,160 gotta be honest, the the Fox Theater in Oakland is a 212 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,700 beautiful room, beautiful. They renovated it. And it's, you 213 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:09,600 know, it's always a pleasure to play there as well. Yeah. But, I 214 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,560 mean, I gotta say the rhyme and so much history and the room 215 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,500 sound is, is amazing. Yeah, you feel comfortable. You feel at 216 00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:20,780 home. And the people are always so warm from the audience and 217 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:22,940 yeah, so I'd say places like that, 218 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,940 and that's your hometown venue, the Ryman Auditorium. Yes, 219 00:12:25,940 --> 00:12:26,540 that's right. 220 00:12:26,599 --> 00:12:29,299 Are you loving Nashville because you lived also in sunny Los 221 00:12:29,299 --> 00:12:29,779 Angeles? 222 00:12:30,260 --> 00:12:35,300 Yes, I love it here. I love living here, just living and 223 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:37,820 cost of living, of course, as everyone says, who's a 224 00:12:37,820 --> 00:12:42,280 transplant. But you know, I love it here because of the culture 225 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,700 and the people and the friendliness, because you 226 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:47,920 were in North Hollywood right before earlier, or were you in 227 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:48,640 Van Nuys, or 228 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:49,660 Van Nuys, you 229 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,520 got to say, like an Armenian, though? Yeah. 230 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:56,140 How does that sound? 231 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:57,280 I don't even know, 232 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,320 no, but Glendale is the home of the most Armenians on the planet 233 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:04,680 other than Armenia, yes, that's right, Glendale, California, 234 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,800 yeah, big, wide streets, yeah, tons of parking, yeah, 235 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,120 tons of parking. Very tight families, yeah, connections in 236 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,200 the neighborhoods. And I lived just blocks from that, that that 237 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,040 culture. And, you know, I liked la for what it was. It was 238 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,720 amazing, actually, with all the world class players that are 239 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,720 there, you can just go see in a weeknight, yes, go with all the 240 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,560 hiking trails in the Santa Monica Mountains. Amazing. But, 241 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,340 you know, didn't want to, like, do the thing, you know, where I 242 00:13:34,820 --> 00:13:38,180 live in my car half the day, every day, yes, that's horrible. 243 00:13:38,180 --> 00:13:41,380 Got old, right? Yeah. It kind of sucks the soul out of you. And 244 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:43,180 even coming from Chicago that was 245 00:13:43,180 --> 00:13:47,020 challenging, yeah. Well, Chicago is very much a master transit 246 00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:50,080 city. The cold, though, yes, 247 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,460 the bitter cold, the lake effect, yeah, you know, you just 248 00:13:54,460 --> 00:13:58,000 get you grow up. Are your folks still there? Yes, there. So 249 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,280 where I, I grew up in Inverness, which is a Northwest suburb. 250 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,080 It's directly Northwest, near Palatine, which, yeah, as 251 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,020 drummers may know this, maybe the older ones there was in a 252 00:14:10,020 --> 00:14:12,960 famous drums there was a famous drum store, you know, called the 253 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:18,000 drum pad, yes, of which we know some people, such as, uh, Victor 254 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,420 salad. 255 00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:22,579 Was the guy that said, Do you know Chris myers, and I said, I 256 00:14:22,579 --> 00:14:24,979 want to and he goes, I've heard, I've heard of him. He goes, this 257 00:14:24,979 --> 00:14:27,679 is a guy you got to get to know. He can play anything in the 258 00:14:27,679 --> 00:14:29,119 world. And it's true. Well, 259 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,960 God bless him. He's a sweet man. He's an ambassador to the drum 260 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,520 community. Just like, globally, 261 00:14:34,580 --> 00:14:38,660 yeah? Just like, you like, Dom. Like, Dom, you know guy rest is 262 00:14:38,660 --> 00:14:39,860 so familar, yeah? 263 00:14:39,860 --> 00:14:43,720 Oh, Dom. Yes, yeah. He was like the Tony Robbins of he's like 264 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,080 the drum 265 00:14:44,140 --> 00:14:46,480 you want to play the drums. That's a great comparison. Yeah, 266 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:46,960 totally 267 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,000 Yeah, his vibe and his stature and Dom, yes. Victor is very 268 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,960 much a gearhead as well. By nature. He's like a drum tech 269 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,920 and a drummer he is. And he he reminds you that it's okay to. 270 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,620 To do, to have four or six pedals, or, you know, maybe 10 271 00:15:04,620 --> 00:15:06,240 symbols, maybe more. I 272 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:11,160 remember Vic's rite of passage for any new friendship is 273 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,700 getting that person on his gigantic rig, which is like a, 274 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 it's like the SS bazio, you know, yes, kind of a thing, 275 00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:18,420 yeah, 276 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,680 yeah, which I believe wasn't he did his drum tech for us, and he 277 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:25,339 uses that stuff creatively. It's like, you know, Vic loves 278 00:15:25,339 --> 00:15:28,819 playing a gigantic drum set with the spokes and the, yeah, the 279 00:15:28,819 --> 00:15:33,319 stacks and the, you know, like a trash can on a remote pedal or 280 00:15:33,319 --> 00:15:38,179 something. I mean, just, just great stuff. We love Vic. Now, 281 00:15:38,179 --> 00:15:40,479 am I right in saying that your tour is starting this year, July 282 00:15:40,479 --> 00:15:42,399 4 at the in Westport, Connecticut, 283 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,140 that's correct, where, yes, the Levitt performing, performing 284 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:49,840 arts center. And it's, I'm actually excited about that, 285 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,540 because it's a really, from what I heard, it's really pretty up 286 00:15:52,540 --> 00:15:55,780 there, yeah. And it's kind of like an old, like, an outdoor 287 00:15:56,260 --> 00:16:00,120 experience, if I understand, right? Like, like, Ravinia, as 288 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,780 we call it in Chicago, the Ravinia, you know, venue is very 289 00:16:03,780 --> 00:16:06,000 bougie. Esthetic. Is bougie totally, 290 00:16:06,060 --> 00:16:08,820 I like, I look, I like packs, I like performing arts centers. 291 00:16:08,820 --> 00:16:11,880 It's like the it's nice and clean and nice little dressing 292 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,760 rooms. And so what's on your guys? Writer, do you guys? You 293 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,040 get, you get a little red wine on there? What's that like? 294 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,440 What's the cheese? Are you sophisticated? Are you just 295 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,560 like, nah. We're more of like, Cheetos and Coors Light. 296 00:16:21,679 --> 00:16:24,979 No, we definitely are somewhere in between both of those. Yeah, 297 00:16:26,899 --> 00:16:31,639 I'd say Budweiser is what my boys love. Yeah, for beer. And 298 00:16:31,639 --> 00:16:38,359 then I'd say Wheat Thins, which is kind of boring, yeah, yeah. 299 00:16:38,599 --> 00:16:42,579 And then Cool Whip, yes, no, Cool Whip. What's cool? What's 300 00:16:42,580 --> 00:16:44,620 a specific thing for you on the road? Are you getting, like, 301 00:16:44,620 --> 00:16:48,460 protein bars on there, like almonds that are imported from 302 00:16:48,460 --> 00:16:50,560 Chile or something? Yes, 303 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,780 a big turkey leg? Yes? No. 304 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:58,720 I like, you know, generally, just like, charcuterie, nice. I 305 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,940 also, like, yeah, protein related things. But I don't, you 306 00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:06,420 know, I just eat the meals that we get to us, and I try not to 307 00:17:06,420 --> 00:17:12,060 eat too much snacking. But snack wise, yeah, Wheat Thins, and I 308 00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:17,040 try to avoid the sodium chips, yeah, even though it's 309 00:17:17,100 --> 00:17:20,400 unavoidable that, you know, everything's got sodium in it. 310 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,360 But I think that, you know, I try to be as healthy as I can, 311 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:27,740 yeah? But the problem is, I have a guilty pleasure, and it's 312 00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:28,700 chocolate, yeah. 313 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:30,320 Do you do the 314 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Oh, milk? Yeah. But the thing is, what kind of milk chocolate, 315 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,100 Hershey's or Cadbury, like, those are the good ones. 316 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:38,660 Hershey's, the wax, I think it's 317 00:17:38,660 --> 00:17:40,660 called JIRA deli's. Or you can't, you 318 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:41,980 can't go wrong there. Those 319 00:17:41,980 --> 00:17:43,960 are with the caramel, yeah? 320 00:17:44,020 --> 00:17:46,840 Why am I speaking up for all the food segments? I mean, holy 321 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,260 crap. 322 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,640 We are good with the giardelli, the assortment pack, yes, with 323 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,200 the caramel, oh yeah. And 324 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,680 even some, occasionally, we'll get some really nice, healthy, 325 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,500 you know, dark chocolate with, uh, you know, saltier mix in it. 326 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,320 Yeah? You know, what's really funny with the sodium is, is 327 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,560 that, yeah, you probably should avoid added sodium to things. 328 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,340 But I never really used to salt my food. I'm a pepper guy, like, 329 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:13,980 I go to town on the pepper. Right? Nice. But as far as 330 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:17,400 they're saying that salt is something that is craved by all 331 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,860 animals in the animal kingdom. Matter of fact, you see these 332 00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:22,280 goats that are on the side of the mountain, and they're just 333 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,620 like, all the way up, and they're just like, on the side 334 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:28,580 of these. And so they can go up there and lick the salt on this 335 00:18:28,580 --> 00:18:35,120 mountain. That's pretty good. Be afraid of salt. You need it, but 336 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:37,760 yeah, probably not the ones in the lace potato chips. So what 337 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,040 do you do for fitness? Do you have like, a thing like, Are you 338 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,520 a walker? Are you a runner? Do you like put heavy things over 339 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,000 your head? 340 00:18:43,060 --> 00:18:49,180 I like to, I like to do cardio off the road, yeah? On the road, 341 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,720 I try to get out, but I don't, and lately I haven't, and I've 342 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,680 been bad about it. So 343 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,500 you save all your caloric burn for the drumming segment of your 344 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:56,680 day, 345 00:18:56,740 --> 00:19:00,960 yeah? But what I do try to do is just, I definitely do 346 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,520 stretching. But I do that, of course, when the body's warmed 347 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,240 up. Yeah, I do. I do warm ups during the day for drum 348 00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:12,420 drumming, yeah, and, but I do it with a sense of looseness and 349 00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:16,620 always keeping limbs just moving. But yeah, I should. I 350 00:19:16,620 --> 00:19:20,600 used to do more exercise. I'll hit the the fitness center, 351 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,160 maybe once every two tours. Yeah. And then yoga. I'm just 352 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,980 now getting back into, how cool, about a decade. It's 353 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,800 nice because you get your little mat, you know, yes, you go into 354 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,440 the venue in the morning with your little mat, and you say hi 355 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,200 to the security people, and they're, you know, yeah, it's 356 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,380 fun. And yeah. And then you just annoy everybody and walk in 357 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:42,100 like, you know, and your yoga pants, and you just say, Hey, 358 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:46,660 you do you have my my soy milk in the fridge? I really did ask 359 00:19:46,660 --> 00:19:49,660 for that. It's nice to meet you anyway. This is what my day was 360 00:19:49,660 --> 00:19:50,080 like. You know, 361 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,840 you have my bucket of fried chicken too, please. Yeah. 362 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,360 Now, what's this documentary? You guys got? It just came out 363 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:01,200 June 11. Frame by. Frame. Oh 364 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,700 yeah, that was a, it was a, basically just kind of like a 365 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:09,960 deluxe offering we gave at that time. But it's a great it's got 366 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,120 an unbelievable footage of past and present that the editing was 367 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:18,900 amazing on it. It's not necessarily like a typical rock 368 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:23,660 doc documentary about a band, but it's more about sharing all 369 00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:26,960 the fun moments we had with the footage. And these are sort of 370 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,660 special things that our fans like. It's not just the most, 371 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,520 you know, commercial, middle of the road, you know approach. We 372 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,340 do things and release things that are a little more deeper 373 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:40,480 than that, more archival, because our fans are, they're 374 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,600 like, part of that jam band culture where it was originally, 375 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,480 right, like, deadheads, which is, like the, you know, right? 376 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:52,000 The blue first generation, first wave, yeah, of hardcore tapers 377 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,000 and fans who just follow the band for hundreds of shows. 378 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,420 You'll use a lot of familiar faces at multiple shows. Yes, 379 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,140 wow. It's 380 00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:01,200 great. It's a blessing. The 381 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,720 gathering of the vibes is that ring a bell in Bridgeport, 382 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Connecticut, yeah, we played it. That was a that was something 383 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,460 that we had to do when my first radio station, we did a whole 384 00:21:11,460 --> 00:21:14,160 weekend of broadcasting there, man, you had to bring a bar 385 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,980 soap. Yeah, right. Oh my goodness, yeah. 386 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,120 It gets, gets pretty, you know, heady up there, as they say. 387 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:23,180 But, um, no, that's cool, because gathering the vibes 388 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:27,200 brings past and present artists and some definitely members of 389 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,400 the dead with their projects. So I had a funny story there, funny 390 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,760 you mentioned, and I'm glad you I have a Mickey heart story. 391 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Yeah, Mickey heart, My God, so 392 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,940 I'm just backstage, you know, twiddling with my my symbol, you 393 00:21:42,940 --> 00:21:45,940 know, positions, and taking my symbols off after the kit, after 394 00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:50,260 the show. I did notice that on my right stage right, Jim, I'm 395 00:21:50,260 --> 00:21:53,860 sorry, Mickey Hart was sitting there with his mallet sticks on 396 00:21:53,860 --> 00:21:56,440 the side of a case, sitting on it, just playing along with the 397 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,360 band, you know, just amazing, just, and I was like, Whoa, 398 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,720 that's, you don't see that every day. So then I'm backstage, and 399 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,520 Mickey came up, which is, I think, on, you know, unlike him, 400 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,420 usually, he's very, you know, he's very cool, and is a 401 00:22:12,420 --> 00:22:15,000 stature, you know, very introvert, little kind of 402 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,300 introverted. No, no, not at all. He's definitely a, like, kind of 403 00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:21,020 a community leader with drumming, yeah, like his planet 404 00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:21,740 drum records. You 405 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:23,300 remember that planet drums? Yeah, 406 00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:26,720 it's very, you know, influential. So anyway, yeah, he 407 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,600 comes up and he's, I'm trying to be cool, and he's like, yeah, 408 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,300 he's kind of stepping he looks like a, like a baseball coach 409 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:35,360 from the 70s. He's got the kind of pants, and he's his arms 410 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,460 folded, he's walking towards you. They're like, he's ready 411 00:22:37,460 --> 00:22:39,680 to, like, cut you out, base 412 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,180 kid, let's go, yes. But instead, he's like, strike, yeah, 413 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,080 Lucky's, 414 00:22:44,140 --> 00:22:47,320 yeah. Pretty much just came right up and he's like, notice 415 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:52,000 some pretty fancy double bass footwork. Most impressive, most 416 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:58,480 impressive, most impressive. And 417 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,280 I was like, two time Mickey. Two time Mickey. 418 00:23:00,340 --> 00:23:03,660 So I said, thank you. And I didn't really say much else, 419 00:23:03,660 --> 00:23:06,720 because I didn't want to be like, you know, that fan, super 420 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,480 fan guy. But I was also kind of, like, also trying to be like, 421 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,820 well, not from the jam scene, and I'm a jazzy Yeah, but 422 00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:14,100 I mean, you're like, you're you're like, you were like, I 423 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:16,320 tell everybody, I'm an over educated rock drummer. You are 424 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,800 an over educated everything drummer. I mean, his style is, 425 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,360 if like, you took like, you know, Vinnie Paul's feet and 426 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:26,660 weckles phrasing and cleanliness, and then the date 427 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:30,920 David garibaldi's control over the stick heist and dynamics 428 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,740 with some Cobham singles in there. Then there's some, then 429 00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:37,340 there's some, like, you know, Gene Krupa showmanship. It's 430 00:23:37,340 --> 00:23:38,540 coming from one person. 431 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,360 Wow, that's amazing. That's, that's very kind of human. 432 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,020 You get to do it like, like, I mean, I've listened to a lot of 433 00:23:44,020 --> 00:23:46,180 those guys, and maybe some of that stuff is in there 434 00:23:46,180 --> 00:23:49,180 somewhere, absolutely, but I don't get to do that. 435 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,320 Is, your humility is quite staggering. You're like, thank 436 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,380 you very much. You're aware of this stuff. Come on. Well, 437 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,220 people talk. I 438 00:23:57,220 --> 00:24:00,600 mean, you know, he won the drum award, dude. What was it? Well, 439 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,520 hey, you were you and I were both on the cover of MD, that's 440 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,100 right, our parents are like, so happy. My mom framed it. It's 441 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:14,400 like, right on the way to the bathroom at her house and in the 442 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,540 toilet hallway 443 00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:19,080 that she's like, Who's this blonde head, blue eyed schmuck 444 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,200 here on the front cover? It's and you're like, that's 445 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,740 my friend, Chris, I know. And 11, you were the best Jam Band 446 00:24:24,740 --> 00:24:28,640 drummer by drum magazine. So like you are, you are award 447 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,640 winning, and your and your peers, you know, recognize you 448 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,220 for your for your talents, and then, you know, your companies, 449 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,720 uh, Pearl Evans Zildjian, I saw some of those Dan Dawes pads up 450 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,560 there. What's the appeal with the Dawes pads versus, like, 451 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,900 some of the more, you know, big box stuff, 452 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,140 I find that, like, just like a lot of drummers could relate to 453 00:24:47,140 --> 00:24:51,700 this, when, if you, you know, assimilate a lot of samples and 454 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:56,140 sequences and manual playing live, of electronics, yeah, we 455 00:24:56,140 --> 00:24:59,560 just have a difficult time finding something that's road 456 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,640 friendly. Yeah, you always have to keep replacing it. And I 457 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 won't name any brands, but you know what I'm talking about, 458 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,920 sure. So you also want to find a pad that's gonna, you know, give 459 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,920 you the performance that you need from a better sound module, 460 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,880 gives you better fidelity on those samples. Yeah, so I just 461 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,220 decided to upgrade to the Dawes pads, which, I don't know if you 462 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:24,800 know the story, but the Dawes pads, to my understanding, used 463 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,000 to be the Super Ball company. You remember the Super Ball when 464 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,700 we were kids, throw it on the ground and it bounces way up 465 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:36,560 there? Well, they eventually gave shares out, or the business 466 00:25:36,620 --> 00:25:39,380 went away, and then they, you know, investors put it in the 467 00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:43,000 drum pad, or this drum, yeah, electronic pad kit called Dawes 468 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,420 Pads, 469 00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:46,720 Pads. But Dan Dawes is, and he's, he's very much, like, 470 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:48,640 underground, yeah, it's not like, 471 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,820 doesn't really big box store stuff. That's correct, yeah, 472 00:25:51,820 --> 00:25:54,820 yeah. So you, but you have to do your research, and you find that 473 00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:59,980 it's the most durable pad, one of the or the anywhere, and it 474 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,140 that Super Ball material helps get that bounce you want, and 475 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,800 it's thick enough. I mean, if Neil Pierre used it, and also, I 476 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:13,140 mean, it's nice, yeah, they use them, then that's it, you know, 477 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:13,560 bets are 478 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,140 off. So what's up, Dan? Yeah, Dan came to one of my clinics at 479 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:18,780 MI and he gave me, I know he goes, I like, you know, I like 480 00:26:18,780 --> 00:26:19,620 these colors. I 481 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:21,920 know you like these colors. Yeah, that was the thing, too. 482 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,100 That 483 00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:26,120 was sweet to him, man. He's a cool guy, man. Now, a band this, 484 00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:28,880 there's, we're just all over the place, but I was just a little 485 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,780 bit curious, a band of that size six people. I've been in a band 486 00:26:32,780 --> 00:26:35,780 with six people. It's always just seems like there's one or 487 00:26:35,780 --> 00:26:38,540 too many people, you know, in that amount of it. But you guys, 488 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:42,040 it's, it's, it works incredible. What is the writing process 489 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,700 like, and how do you guys record? Are you recording in the 490 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,180 same studio all the time? Do you have a producer? 491 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,940 Yes. So we have, over the years, stuck with the same idiom, which 492 00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:58,360 is getting together first, to write together like the old 493 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:02,580 school band style. Wow. Right. Nice, which is tedious to some, 494 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:06,300 but courageous for others, or whatever you want to call it, 495 00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:11,400 authentic. Yes, we, we do that usually up to Jake's studio. We 496 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,060 used to, for many years, go up to his personal studio with all 497 00:27:15,060 --> 00:27:18,000 of his analog gears tape machines and or he had a dat 498 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,840 machine, actually, from the 90s, and a great board, and it'd be 499 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,020 up in a shed up in Niles, Michigan, which is basically a 500 00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:31,280 real remote town in Michigan, kind of blue collar dirt roads. 501 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:35,420 So we would be off of the, you know, the reservation for a 502 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:38,900 whole weekend, right? And then once we write all the music 503 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:43,180 together, we'll keep the demos if we like it, or we'll just 504 00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:46,480 redo them in a in a big city studio. And we used to record, 505 00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:50,740 and have continued to record with Greg majors, who I live 506 00:27:50,740 --> 00:27:55,000 right by Bellevue, who's also a notable ninja here, that a lot 507 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,720 of people should continue to to reach out to or get to know, 508 00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,620 Greg majors, okay, 509 00:27:59,620 --> 00:28:00,960 unbelievable. Yeah, he 510 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,620 works in 511 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,440 his own home studio, like me in Bellevue, but he has been doing 512 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,380 Humphreys records forever, and we had a producer for the 513 00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:14,280 longest time from Chicago named Manny Sanchez, who moved to LA 514 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:20,160 now, but he was a huge influence on us to get us to be more legit 515 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:25,280 with a producer helping us define that moment in the style. 516 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,900 But we've always been our self, you know, produced kind of band 517 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:30,560 as well, 518 00:28:30,980 --> 00:28:33,560 and that you guys, with six people, can come together 519 00:28:33,620 --> 00:28:37,400 democratically, yeah, and make, you know, decisions without 520 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440 getting butt hurt and breaking up the band. 521 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:40,180 That's true. 522 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,560 You know, we're all still an imperfect and very dysfunctional 523 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,500 family, just like anyone else. Oh, yeah. But when it comes to 524 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:50,800 recording, we have guys like Jake, who's a, first of all, 525 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:54,700 like a, he's like, an encyclopedia of rock and country 526 00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:58,720 in any style of music, really. Yeah, he's just a brilliant 527 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,780 genius of a guy with recording concepts, and then all the guys 528 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,140 in their own right, you know, bring some kind of magic and 529 00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:11,580 just, you know, something that makes sense, structure and 530 00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:15,660 arrangement. We also keep it like you said. We keep it 531 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,800 progressive, and we don't try to, you know, adhere or conform 532 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,900 to anything. We're very lucky for that. 533 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,280 I mean, you guys are there is a genre. Because if you guys, if 534 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,400 Tower Records still existed, they would be looking to put you 535 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,700 in a specific section, right, just to help things along. But 536 00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:37,160 now it's almost even better in this world where it's just like 537 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,140 there's you're a genre. Less you guys are all over the place. 538 00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:44,320 Now, is there a type of fan you were talking about? Your fans? 539 00:29:44,380 --> 00:29:47,380 Is there a mold, or is it all over the place? 540 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,100 It's not really all over the place in the universal world of 541 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,640 the music industry, but it's pretty, I'd say it's various 542 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,920 with people who come from progressive music to, you know. 543 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,860 Or, you know, traditional jam music, maybe subcultures from a 544 00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:09,720 little bit of the metal scene. Yeah, they actually really, you 545 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,140 know, there's a few metal bands and people we know that we've 546 00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:15,780 looked up to that actually have heard of us only for some reason 547 00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:20,180 they probably appreciate the guitar work. You know, Jake and 548 00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:25,400 Brennan are a dueling, uh, guitar powerhouse that just, you 549 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,560 know, it's like the Allman Brothers, how they were with a 550 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,940 lot of harmonizing, Unison lines, the same way with Brennan 551 00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:36,620 and Jake. And they do it live, you know? So, yeah, I mean, we, 552 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,880 we do what we can. 553 00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:41,980 I mean, with 14 studio albums, it's got to be pretty difficult 554 00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:44,740 putting a set list together. Now, when you go on a tour, are 555 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:46,600 you guys changing it nightly? 556 00:30:46,780 --> 00:30:49,420 Uh, yeah, we have a different set every night. That's 557 00:30:49,420 --> 00:30:50,080 incredible. 558 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,560 So you literally, you are, well, the average, you know, um, 559 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:59,200 freeze record has 15 tracks on it. I've seen 18, and you got 14 560 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,500 records. I'm trying to do the math. So is everybody 561 00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:05,100 responsible for the entire body of work at all times, 562 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,720 I'd say. So we split the song splits, though, you know, when 563 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,680 it comes to the business side a little differently than equal, 564 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,720 but it's sensible, yes, and we, you know, it makes sense, yeah, 565 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,600 but I think that when it comes to improvising. We open up. It's 566 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,600 important that we all accept each other as they as who they 567 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,620 are and how they want to, you know, express themselves. We do 568 00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:33,920 come together, though, as a team. Moments to realize, okay, 569 00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:37,400 now we could put that aside the and then just play something 570 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,740 together like this or this style or this vibe, yeah, or that, and 571 00:31:41,740 --> 00:31:45,040 then for a few minutes, and then, you know, one guy will, 572 00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:49,360 will gage how much time that is, and be very calculated with the 573 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,620 control chaos. 574 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Yeah, I think, I think that the idea of changing the set list 575 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,900 every night, Jim, but isn't this interesting is that, is that, 576 00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:58,720 you know, when we go on tour, we'll, we'll do our 30 shows at 577 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,740 the back end of the year, and it's the same 24 songs every 578 00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:05,580 night. So it's all literally about just execution right now 579 00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:08,340 you got, and you got to put your thinking caps on when you got a 580 00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:11,460 different show every night that keeps the brains of neurons 581 00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:12,600 firing. Yeah, 582 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,740 pretty much, sometimes, for better or worse. I mean, you 583 00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:21,380 know players who play in progressive more, you know, I 584 00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:24,560 wouldn't say obscure, but eclectic kind of, you know, 585 00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:29,000 yeah, environments tend to, I think, you know, get really 586 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,360 excited on one night when you're really hitting it on all 587 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,660 cylinders, you just feel it blowing. And then some nights 588 00:32:35,660 --> 00:32:38,480 it's like, yeah, you're not sure if this or even that, all these 589 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,620 components are connecting, and that can be a little nerve 590 00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:45,760 wracking, but, you know, as long as we just keep plowing through 591 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,000 and then you listen back to the recording study, like game 592 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,160 tapes, I used to do it, and I had to, because, like you said, 593 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,860 it's chaos that we're doing. It's chaos, you know, it's 594 00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:57,400 crazy. 595 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,180 I can't believe it, man, there we go. Nice. Off we go to the 596 00:33:03,180 --> 00:33:05,700 races. I was gonna warn you, I might get 597 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:08,700 into Christopher walk guys can have a walking off, a 598 00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,860 walking battle. Yes, 599 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,800 at some point, and we will, we will start 600 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,720 talking like we have no punctuation, no commas, 601 00:33:18,780 --> 00:33:19,800 semicolons. Well, 602 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,080 you know, Shatner was very big on changing the emphasis of the 603 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,260 various syllables, that's right. And he would be practiced in a 604 00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:28,340 million different ways. He 605 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:33,440 had walking were very similar, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah. Ship, 606 00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:36,980 we go. We are going here, 607 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:42,340 yes, yeah. It's kind of a backwards annunciation. So, 608 00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:46,060 yeah, yeah. So basically, going back to what you're saying, I 609 00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:51,520 think we, you know, use the algorithmic, you know, all 610 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,080 things unfreeze.com stats of these songs played. Because when 611 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,020 we write set lists, we have to keep tabs on how many times 612 00:33:59,020 --> 00:34:02,400 we've played that song in this given city or market. Wow, 613 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,000 that's, that's why we do that, as well as for the geeky, nerdy 614 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,620 fans that love that stuff. So 615 00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:10,980 there's got to be an AI app for that by now. Yeah, I think, 616 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,600 I mean, I'm sure, let's 617 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,080 grinder.com 618 00:34:15,180 --> 00:34:17,940 I don't know somebody, but I mean, it's, it's, it's almost 619 00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:20,660 like, Dave Matthews, like, we, we had a gift certificate, me 620 00:34:20,660 --> 00:34:24,980 and the gal, Cara, we were gonna go, like, go see. We got, yeah, 621 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:28,700 we got, like, like, a gift card to go see a band. And we're 622 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:31,340 like, oh, let's go see Dave Matthews been forever, and 623 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,400 they're known for changing the shit list every day, yes. And so 624 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,400 she wanted to hear crash. She's like, he better F and play 625 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,360 crash. And so you watch the whole show for three hours, or 626 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,500 whatever it was. Yeah, I just know I peed twice. Um, he never 627 00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:47,200 played crash. He didn't play any of his hits. From what it sounds 628 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,840 like, it was, it was he? I don't know. Maybe he was like, Okay, 629 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,560 we're in Music City, a lot of musicians here, so let's like, 630 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,360 let's shred. You 631 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,780 know, I think it's not even, I don't think, Dave, you dance, 632 00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:02,340 he, I. He moves to the beat of his own drum. From what I've 633 00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:05,280 gathered as a person, when I he's he's an amazing person, 634 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,000 kind of eccentric, yeah? And just like anyone in that band, 635 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,980 The Spirit they possesses is the confidence and the joy of 636 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:16,740 changing it up when you want to change it up, yeah? And they've, 637 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,380 they have also been in a comfortable situation with that, 638 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:22,760 yeah, and it's amazing, they've had commercial success as well. 639 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,060 So they are, like, kind of a an enigmatic thing, yeah, 640 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,840 you know, now, did any of your songs break through traditional 641 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,120 radio? I'd say, 642 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,240 like college radio, maybe, right? Yeah. 643 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:41,200 And we also had, I think, moments with cover songs. That's 644 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,420 a good question. I don't think we have commercial success. I 645 00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:51,400 mean, we've kind of, we've done collaborations one time with 646 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,500 Huey Lewis. Yes, we call uncle Huey. 647 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,260 Oh, my God, you got to tell us about that, because Jim huge 648 00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:59,440 fan. Yeah, all right. I mean, I am too, but yeah, Jim's on a 649 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,240 kick. Well, 650 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,480 let me tell you fun music to play. Have you ever met him by 651 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:03,960 chance? 652 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:07,260 We interviewed him on the show. I saw that, yeah, and 653 00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:09,960 he was able to hear everything, okay? Because he's having 654 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,460 hearing issues. Yeah? Well, 655 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:13,980 he was, he was listening to ambient sound off of his 656 00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:16,620 computer, I would imagine some sort of, you know, monitoring 657 00:36:16,620 --> 00:36:19,500 system so he didn't have any ears or headphones on, which I 658 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,520 would imagine would trigger his condition, 659 00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:26,120 yeah, and which I obviously, you know, I don't need to horrible 660 00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:30,260 to elaborate. It's not my business. But we are friends 661 00:36:30,260 --> 00:36:33,860 with him after all these years of which we met at the, what I 662 00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:37,100 told you was the jammies, which was the jam band version of the 663 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:41,860 Grammys amazing. Yeah, back in 2007 or something like that. We 664 00:36:41,860 --> 00:36:45,460 met him in the most eclectic group of artists that 665 00:36:45,460 --> 00:36:48,400 collaborated that that evening with us, and he was one of them. 666 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,320 And ever since we've been we've been friends. He gave he 667 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,040 collaborated with us on a song called Women, wine and song, 668 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,600 yeah, and that's a that was kind of a tip of the hat to Lowell 669 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,440 George, you know, from little feet, yeah, back in the day, 670 00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:10,620 that kind of feel and vibe and and he played harmonica and sang 671 00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:13,200 on it in the courses. And then he got us on Jimmy Kimmel as 672 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,340 well. People you know, helped, he helped with it. Yeah? 673 00:37:17,340 --> 00:37:20,780 He said, he seems like such a generous, you know, wants to 674 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:24,140 give back and pay it forward. Yeah, did you watch how he was 675 00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:26,840 on the We Are the World Documentary? Do you watch that? 676 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,200 Yes, and how, just like in awe, he was, I mean, you think about 677 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,900 it, at that particular point in time, he'd only been like a rock 678 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:35,180 star for maybe two years. He was 679 00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:38,420 very humble and grateful for being there, but he killed it 680 00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:40,180 too, totally brought it Well, 681 00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:43,540 the reason is, is, I think it's because of his personality. He 682 00:37:43,540 --> 00:37:47,020 is literally the coolest guy I have ever met in the music 683 00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:50,740 industry, beautiful. And his stories are the best too. He 684 00:37:50,740 --> 00:37:55,180 tells you the good stories, the the more known stories. But he's 685 00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:57,100 just so cool. And everything I love 686 00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:59,740 this vulnerability. I was surprised at it that he was 687 00:37:59,740 --> 00:38:03,180 talking about his menirs so transparently. He's like, it is 688 00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:06,120 what it is. Man, yeah, you know, it's not very often that you 689 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,880 come across somebody of such a big stature like that that's 690 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,900 willing to admit a weakness. You know, I appreciate that about 691 00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:14,520 Jon. Bon Jovi, yeah, you know, he 692 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,780 did that whole Docu series 693 00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:18,840 document is very, it's very, very brave, very, very brave. 694 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,740 And it's like, he didn't 695 00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:22,220 have to do that. But I think it was like, You know what? I just 696 00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:24,380 feel like, I have a feeling that he, there's a lot more to that 697 00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:27,920 story that he was, let me put this out there, and, you know, 698 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,800 get the fans warmed up to the notion that I may not be able to 699 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,680 do this anymore. I really want to do it, yeah, you know, 700 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:39,020 well, you know, he's always been just that way, even casually. So 701 00:38:39,020 --> 00:38:43,180 he just kind of, he's kind of a pioneer, like, like a Bob Dylan 702 00:38:43,180 --> 00:38:46,540 guy, but not so introverted, more the extroverted version, 703 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,020 the extroverted Bob Dylan. And he, he grew he grew up with a 704 00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:55,840 lot of, you know, the the Northern California greats of 705 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,260 the, you know, more hippie, you know, kind of yeah culture. And 706 00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:02,040 he grew up with that as well, but he became a pop star as 707 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,600 well. So he's, he's got a, you know, multi faceted universe, 708 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,860 totally connections. It's 709 00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:10,440 just so interesting to see drummers various backgrounds, 710 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,720 because we had Bill Gibson on the show where and I was like, 711 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,900 yes, now you are a, you're, of course, of an over trained 712 00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:19,380 drummer. And he goes, I gotta let you know sometimes I have 713 00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:21,560 never had a lesson in my life in 714 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,320 the 70s is taking lessons. Now, you know that 715 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,280 he's saying, you know, I believe, I remember him saying 716 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,940 that too. He's a, I don't, I'm not trying to name drop at all, 717 00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:33,440 but he, he's a friend and 718 00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:37,760 Bill, maybe you dropped something. It's right there. Oh, 719 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,080 I'm joking. 720 00:39:41,260 --> 00:39:43,960 Yeah, I, uh, so gullible. I just went with 721 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,700 that to be to have your your your sound that solid, and your 722 00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:51,700 musical choices that solid, and create those everlasting drum 723 00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,900 parts and execute them on all those television shows. Yeah, no 724 00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:57,640 drum lessons. That's like, great. 725 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,780 You know that probably went to his advantage. Because, yeah, 726 00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:03,720 you know, some sometimes things stick better when you don't 727 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,160 overthink it, you know, like playing just that solid pocket, 728 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,160 which he did, like a Jeff per Caro kind of player, yes, yeah, 729 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,600 was all was needed. Well, 730 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,880 even, even towards the latest albums you look at, you know, 731 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,420 small world and perfect world, those are really intricate, 732 00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:20,160 involved songs. 733 00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:27,200 That's true. The horn. Saw the horn. You know what? I mean? Oh, 734 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,200 that's all kind of Motown, yeah, stacks records, kind of stuff, 735 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,320 which we grew up playing, yeah, um, yeah. Who are your guys? Who 736 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,960 are you? Who are your route Mount Rushmore, like, why did 737 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,500 you get into drumming? Because here's the deal. The year was 738 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:46,240 1976 I started playing drums that was one year before that 739 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,540 was like when your dad had a sparkle in his eyes, yeah, and 740 00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:50,740 then you were born the next year. 741 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,760 Better late than never. Drummers usually playing time perfectly, 742 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,840 but not on time. 743 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,860 How about that. Give me a splash. Jim, okay, 744 00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:08,700 okay, there you go. Zing, well, you know, I think of dramas 745 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,720 with, you know, true vigor, an absolute, just reckless abandon, 746 00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:20,120 explore, you know, thinking of the professionalism and the 747 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,380 presence and the charisma of rich Redmond, you have to do the 748 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,360 Mount Rushmore without a doubt. Every time I'm in the seat in 749 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,320 the room, he's playing the backbeat, and it goes, pow, pow, 750 00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:38,000 oh. And like a dog, you know, bow, wow, or maybe a cat, you 751 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,600 know, meow, 752 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:40,340 you know, kick the cat shack, 753 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,220 yeah, hard. Get a lot of like, 754 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,340 you got a lot of like, dog lovers at the kick cat kick the 755 00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:46,480 cat show, like, 756 00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:51,220 oh, actually, we get more like the opposite. Not lovers, I'm 757 00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:54,100 sorry, not the opposite. What I'm saying is we get activists 758 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:57,280 sometimes, because that was a very Oh, my God, really. Well, 759 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,320 this is this the name of that band. Was not the greatest idea, 760 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,800 but it was. It was named a band. We were named the band kick the 761 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,960 cat in night back in 96 Yeah, before that was ever an issue, 762 00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:13,440 yeah. So when we rebranded the band and tried to tour, like a 763 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,520 few years ago, which we did, and it was a lot of fun, we had a 764 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,540 little little trouble with the, you know, modern day culture, 765 00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:21,020 everyone's 766 00:42:21,020 --> 00:42:24,500 got a trouble with something lighting up. People, we're not 767 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:26,420 actually kicking the cat, right? 768 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,240 I know, and we had to start. Well, what we'd say is, kick is 769 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,160 the name of the cat. See 770 00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:35,600 kick the cat? Yes. Comma the cat. 771 00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:37,580 Oh, my God, so 772 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,100 with getting this down, yeah. Did you see the Super Bowl 773 00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,740 commercial where they were? He was just like, completely, like, 774 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:47,200 he's driving up to drive throughs, and everyone's doing a 775 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,620 Christopher Walken impression, oh no. And he's just like, Yeah, 776 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,080 okay, yeah, I get it, yeah, he's probably so over it by now. But 777 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:05,220 does anybody do Al Pacino? Oh, band. All I care about are the 778 00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:09,420 drums pocket. This guy is over here going, Whoa, wow, 779 00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:14,040 man, yeah. So is this like a pastime? You like this? Like 780 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,500 to do impressions? Yeah, I 781 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:20,300 was never a good actor, so I just thought, well, I 782 00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:22,520 can do impressions. That's great. There's a lot of 783 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,400 comedians and actors that are like, I don't do impressions. 784 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,360 Yeah, right. 785 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,500 Frank Caliendo does the best. Al Pacino Agreed, agreed, yeah, 786 00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:30,980 yeah. 787 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,700 And you comedy fan? You got the main deal? Do you fall like, 788 00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:40,100 Sure, Marin or Gaffigan or Matt Fife? What's his name? Rife. 789 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,820 Matt rife. 790 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,440 Yeah, actually, Marin's Great, yeah, I like his show too. He 791 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,800 has a podcast, yeah, he just, yeah, he 792 00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:57,280 the mark man show. I know, yes, you guys, 793 00:43:58,900 --> 00:44:02,580 yeah. So he's great. And, you know, I just, I just try to 794 00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:06,480 discover comedians when I can. And I'm pretty open minded 795 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,980 towards the satire Bill bird does occasionally is like, 796 00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:13,680 really brash, as we all know. But you know what? I there's 797 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,620 moments where he takes me out, I think it's just like, Oh, I 798 00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:19,380 just feel that he is great. He is great, but he is he's a 799 00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:23,180 little shouty, yeah, he shoots from the anger in New Yorker. 800 00:44:23,180 --> 00:44:26,660 Yeah, constantly getting up here. Nobody's, I think he's 801 00:44:26,660 --> 00:44:29,120 Bostonian. Is he Bostonian? Wow, no kidding, I 802 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,200 think so. Well, I 803 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,300 apologize, Boston. Yeah, interesting. Well, anyway, yeah, 804 00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,440 I forgot what we were well, we 805 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,200 were talking about, we're talking about Rushmore of 806 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,840 drummers, you know? Well, 807 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,320 of course, there's just no denying, um, I don't have 808 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,100 favorites. As you know, we were doing clinics. Hard to say there 809 00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,700 is the the greatest this or the greatest that. The more you 810 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,780 realize when you start diving in to the history of drummers and 811 00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:59,920 all of the people that you just realize there is no favorite. 812 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,660 Yeah, you know, yeah, you could still have a favorite. But 813 00:45:03,660 --> 00:45:06,120 was there a guy that was like, that was like, the tipping point 814 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,920 for you to pick up the sticks? Okay, 815 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,800 well, let's start with that. The chronological order. Here we go. 816 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,740 No one has ever done this. I don't have four. I might have 817 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:15,840 more, but I'll try to make it in order. 818 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,420 That's great. No, it doesn't have to be four. It could be 40. 819 00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:19,080 And go 820 00:45:19,260 --> 00:45:22,640 and between. If I had to choose between Bonham and Stuart, I'm 821 00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:28,400 gonna go with Stewart. Bonham, yes, he's absolutely 100% but 822 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,960 Stuart was just had so unique flash and a certain feel that I 823 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,280 ever since I was just coming out of the womb, I just felt it. 824 00:45:37,460 --> 00:45:39,380 He was very reggae. Yeah, 825 00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:44,500 his pop, pop punk, just lively, Sunny sounds feels like, you 826 00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:47,140 know you're listening to like a cheetah playing the drums. 827 00:45:47,980 --> 00:45:51,040 Listen to his, even his like cadence of regular speech, he 828 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,460 sounds like Christopher Walken. You're like, yeah, you're like, 829 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,660 it's cheetah. It sounds it's like, you know, you're not even 830 00:45:58,660 --> 00:46:01,320 trying. You're not even trying. This is coming up naturally. You 831 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,860 know, the next thing you got to master is the Morgan Freeman, 832 00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:05,280 yeah, 833 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,360 that's a hard one. You 834 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,680 got to talk to an old person, yeah, you know, like you're 835 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,860 talking about every time my wife gets up, Courtney went to the 836 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,860 refrigerator, yeah, and in there she found last night's dinner, 837 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,680 and it wasn't anywhere near as good as it was the booties, 838 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,220 yeah, it's like, I love stratosphere. So 839 00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:30,260 yes, it was evaporating Stuart Copeland and me and you are 840 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:31,160 tight, awesome. 841 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,440 There was like two, there was three different cabs, probably 842 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,800 Alex Van Halen Pierre, yep. And Copeland back in the day, yeah. 843 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,280 And I 844 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,600 loved all of them, but in all different ways. But I have to 845 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,500 say, if I edged out anyone from them, it's Stuart. And then 846 00:46:44,740 --> 00:46:50,740 after that, a big influence was, hmm, well, I always gotta, I 847 00:46:50,740 --> 00:46:54,340 always gotta tip the hat to buddy yeah. Buddy Rich Yeah, 848 00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:58,900 which is arguably tech in terms of technical feel, or, you know, 849 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,340 approach, probably one of the strongest, greatest of all time. 850 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:08,760 Yes, in terms of, let's see after that. Okay, the third, I'd 851 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,900 say the third or fourth is Vinny kalau to Sure, 100% he's the 852 00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:17,940 only drummer nowadays that. Well, no, there's so many that 853 00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:22,760 are all around. But with him, I find that He's everything he 854 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,880 touches turns to gold, you know. And kind of player risk 855 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,880 taking turns to gold, and, yeah, everything he touches 856 00:47:34,940 --> 00:47:37,100 another drum podcast, I am talking 857 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,460 to this guy about turning things to gold takes it to another 858 00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:45,460 place. It just amps up the silliness. Yes, 859 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,780 let's try to think of a fourth. Jim McCarthy, I'll be honest 860 00:47:52,780 --> 00:47:56,500 with you, straight groove guy. Or Keith Carlock, who's a good 861 00:47:56,500 --> 00:48:00,100 friend, as we all know here now, which we're lucky to have him. 862 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,180 He's, United States, probably my fourth Did you steal his? 863 00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:06,420 Those, those things, 864 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,020 I wouldn't say I've steal a stolen and I just try to attempt 865 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:13,740 them and see what becomes the chris myers version of that I 866 00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:15,840 like to throw out of I thought I like to throw them around a 867 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:22,440 little bit, just on your trash can. Endings, right? You know? 868 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,420 Tip of a hat to Keith and Tony and, you know, 869 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,880 yeah, he's, maybe I forgot Steve gad I mean, geez, Steve Gadd, of 870 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,860 course. So if there was a fifth president on there, weckles, 871 00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:37,340 great. Did 872 00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:39,620 you go through that a phase? A weckle phase? I mean, like 873 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,320 that. I'm, yeah, I'd say, so the hair, no, 874 00:48:44,380 --> 00:48:46,480 I had that vo five mullet, yeah, 875 00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:51,100 he's actually, yeah, he's, he's a really cool guy too. He's 876 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,280 really nice. Like, he's kind of more on the quiet side when I 877 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,280 met him, but I don't know, and maybe he's not, but he's really 878 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,640 cool. Yeah, Benny, I got to meet once in Chicago on a gig, and he 879 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,640 was just, I didn't want to bother him too much. I get too 880 00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:08,280 nervous and star studded with you know, when you meet your 881 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,660 heroes and you don't want to, yeah, 882 00:49:09,660 --> 00:49:12,480 you get Star Trek a little bit, even by celebrities too, because 883 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,120 they, because these people can probably take a couple of 884 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,760 lessons from you. I mean, any drummer in the world would be 885 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,600 able to you would be able to teach them some shit. You just 886 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,540 got so much facility, man, it's just and so much musicianship. 887 00:49:23,540 --> 00:49:27,500 Hey, this record, zonkey 2016 where you guys were, like, doing 888 00:49:27,500 --> 00:49:30,740 mashups, you got this one song. It's very it's like your most 889 00:49:30,740 --> 00:49:34,760 spun song on Spotify. You can't rock my dreams face. It's a mash 890 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,180 up of rock with you dreams and you, I can't feel my face. 891 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:39,860 That's correct. Amazing. Yeah, 892 00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:43,900 it's outrageous. Yeah? We, we found that a concept record like 893 00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:47,800 that was something that I don't think any too many bands have 894 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,640 done, I mean, very high level. And we, we put them some time 895 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,580 into that. We, it originally started as just a an event we do 896 00:49:54,580 --> 00:49:57,880 for Halloween shows, yeah, where the we would just create our own 897 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,380 arrangements of mashing up. Like, and it's originally a DJ 898 00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:03,960 culture thing, yeah, where they would just do the, you know, the 899 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,680 instrumentals from in a book from another Yeah. And we're 900 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,620 like, Why can't a band do that? So we're gonna try that. So, 901 00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:16,320 thanks. Yeah, we luckily I got to do, you know, the I can't 902 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,480 feel my face part, and then that's not easy to do, because 903 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,820 that singer is just fabulous. And I don't, right, yes, I do 904 00:50:25,820 --> 00:50:29,360 backgrounds usually, but I do covers. I can't 905 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,420 believe you you can do the backgrounds and play that insane 906 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,460 music. Well, I 907 00:50:34,460 --> 00:50:37,520 started playing, I think it's just like anything else. I 908 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,360 started when I was 12, singing and playing because we needed 909 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,180 to, okay, battle the band. You could just 910 00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:46,660 throw some credit towards Phil Collins and that, oh yeah, Don 911 00:50:46,660 --> 00:50:48,040 Henley, those kinds of things. 912 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,780 You know what absolutely 913 00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:53,740 is not. That's not easy. No, now it's not. And also, 914 00:50:53,740 --> 00:50:58,540 he wrote a couple catchy tunes, I'd say, as well. Yeah, yeah, 915 00:50:58,540 --> 00:51:03,180 no, I think that they were, they were amazing drummers, with the 916 00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:06,660 energy they they brought to the song, and also with the vocals 917 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,840 tied in there. And drummer singers are kind of a rare 918 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,760 breed. So, yeah. I mean, as far as the zonkey record, it was a 919 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,840 lot of fun. I My favorite was doing James Hetfield on the sad 920 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,920 gorillas. Yes, yeah, because I got to do that part, of course, 921 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,160 you know, because it was like the song, you know, from the 922 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,480 gorillas, which is, I ain't happy you didn't glad I got, you 923 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,240 know, and that's our bassist Singing that. And I'm going, 924 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,380 Hey, I'm your life. 925 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,660 Nice. Yes, 926 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,520 I do that. Which that instrumental? And then we go 927 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,400 back and forth between the songs, yeah, and then we lose 928 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,180 our goddamn 929 00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:55,000 minds. It's incredible. And then all the, I mean, all the drum 930 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,600 sounds, track, the track you got flubby snares, you got, you 931 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,860 know, ringing piccolos, you got, like, you know, it's just all 932 00:52:01,860 --> 00:52:04,320 just a it's just some great stuff, man. Thank you. Just 933 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,660 really, really great. And then, hey, recently, I know we're 934 00:52:06,660 --> 00:52:09,780 running out of time, but you are just your rehab now from your 935 00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:11,340 rotator cuff. Uh, 936 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,760 I'm past that now. Yeah, you're all rehabbed. Yes. Thanks for 937 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,680 back. I recommend you know anyone who questions getting the 938 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,900 surgical procedure of something that is attainable, like a just 939 00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:27,440 a rotator cuff repair. Yeah, I would just say, get with a good 940 00:52:27,740 --> 00:52:32,660 or orthopedic and do it yes. Like you can't defy science with 941 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,820 stem cells, with books that tell you that you can ignore the 942 00:52:37,820 --> 00:52:41,200 pain. Sorry. Yeah, I disagree with that. It's your choice. And 943 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,660 I know other drummers who've who've gone other routes, and it 944 00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:46,840 is a cost effective thing too. But if you have good insurance 945 00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:50,620 and you can afford, you know, a great orthopedic you must do it 946 00:52:50,620 --> 00:52:53,140 because you are an athlete and you need to treat your body like 947 00:52:53,140 --> 00:52:57,460 it was like a good six months of rehab. It was for me. Luckily, I 948 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,660 stayed ahead of the of the schedule, and I was four and a 949 00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:03,480 half months ready to go. Nice, but luckily, the band was 950 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,880 generous, and I'm very grateful for it to let me come in at, you 951 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,420 know, New Year's, which was more exciting for the fans, yeah, 952 00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:15,000 while they're there, and here I am, like, 20 pounds later. Hey 953 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,100 everybody, I can't fit in my shirt, but here I am. And then, 954 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,080 you know, then you then they put me to work really hard this year 955 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,520 because we had to make up for a lot of lost, you know, momentum, 956 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,080 yeah. And we're doing it, and I'm, you know, I'm working on 957 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,040 keeping it, you know, rehab by just continuing to to ice down 958 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,140 after shows, which a lot of drummers, I noticed some 959 00:53:39,140 --> 00:53:40,220 surprise, don't really do that, 960 00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:42,820 yeah. I mean, well, I'm supposed to be, I supposed to be probably 961 00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:46,360 icing things a little bit, but you're just on this high after 962 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,120 the show. You're like, ah, and you want to get into your, you 963 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,360 know, your your clean clothes afterwards. Like, I want to ice 964 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,340 right now, yeah, you know, pretty much, 965 00:53:54,340 --> 00:53:57,220 yeah, no. But that's, that's really, I appreciate that, you 966 00:53:57,220 --> 00:54:02,220 know. And I am doing, you know, some gigs locally coming up. So 967 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,300 August 9, I'm doing a, we're gonna do a show in town that I'm 968 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:10,140 gonna announce on Friday, nice with some some friends, and 969 00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:13,020 that'll be amazing. And then I do charity work too. Third and 970 00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:18,660 Lindsey, no, won't be there, yeah. But yeah, it's just if you 971 00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:23,660 want to check out my Instagram, or, you know, my, I don't my 972 00:54:23,660 --> 00:54:26,480 website needs to be updated, so I'm not gonna even suggest that. 973 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:26,900 Yeah. 974 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,860 So you guys got unfreeze mcgee.com or is it um freeze? 975 00:54:30,980 --> 00:54:31,880 Well, umfreeze.com 976 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:37,100 freeze.com Yeah. And then Chris myers drums.com is the in 977 00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:40,180 construction dated website of mine. Do you 978 00:54:40,180 --> 00:54:42,820 feel like living in Nashville where everything is just so so 979 00:54:42,820 --> 00:54:45,760 song oriented. Stay out of the way. Giant backbeats, yes, 980 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,100 because people get this perception of you playing so 981 00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,480 dense. Yes. Do 982 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,820 you get calls to do the boom Schmack 983 00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:56,500 only a couple times. Luckily, you know again, when you're 984 00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,920 doing a philanthropic or charitable thing, I got to do a. 985 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,780 Really cool session with some some heavy players, like some of 986 00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:08,100 Garth, Garth Brooks rhythm section, nice. And Danny Rader 987 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:14,100 guitarist, right? Yeah. And I was very lucky on that one. And, 988 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,960 yeah, I did that. It's think sound check studios before it 989 00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:25,760 shut down, yeah. Amazing room. And then I did a couple events 990 00:55:25,820 --> 00:55:33,020 at basement East. And then, you know, I can't, can't recall too 991 00:55:33,020 --> 00:55:38,420 many more. I did actually run a charity event I did called the 992 00:55:38,420 --> 00:55:42,100 sleigh ride, which was at the Brooklyn Bowl, yes. And that 993 00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:46,540 went very well with Maggie Rogers, Taylor Hicks and, you 994 00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:50,440 know, Corey Wong and Bill Evans and Jeff Coffin. And you raise 995 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,120 money for I raised it was for a place called David's den, which 996 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,580 is a facility here. I think everyone should, should go look 997 00:55:57,580 --> 00:56:01,200 into it's, it's giving you an option in the community to go to 998 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,980 a safe house for mental health counselors. Counseling that's 999 00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:08,220 not like in network that you have to worry about, like chair 1000 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,640 your insurance related claims. It's like something you can go 1001 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,840 to be part of team building projects. Great counselors 1002 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,600 there, and that's on the east side, I believe. So, yeah, 1003 00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:23,660 David's den. Yeah, nice. We raised money for them. I'm not 1004 00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:27,080 currently doing anything else. I'm just trying to get ready for 1005 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,160 a wedding in three months. 1006 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,220 Yes, that's right, you got your you got a big life change coming 1007 00:56:31,220 --> 00:56:33,920 up. Yes, good for you. Thanks. Very time consuming, because you 1008 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,860 got to, like, pick out your napkin colors and how many 1009 00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:39,680 layers the Groom's Cake is going to be. Where are you going to 1010 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,220 sit the parents. Well, luckily, I'm 1011 00:56:42,220 --> 00:56:44,800 only doing Am I making the right decision? 1012 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:47,260 No, definitely. 1013 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,180 Is your first marriage? This is my first, first and last. 1014 00:56:52,180 --> 00:56:53,680 Hopefully, yes, yeah, absolutely, 1015 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,000 yeah. I mean, it's, she's, she's in the industry as well. So we 1016 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,860 it works, which is great. I 1017 00:56:59,860 --> 00:57:02,700 forget she an agent or something. She works as an event 1018 00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:04,740 coordinator, yeah, with 1019 00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:09,420 Romeo Entertainment Group, yeah, yeah. And that's cool. She's 1020 00:57:09,420 --> 00:57:12,480 just really, she's a I learned a lot from her. I'm very inspired 1021 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,960 by that. I want to learn from administrative side of the 1022 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,020 industry more these days, because all players should do it 1023 00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:21,560 for good, for the right reasons, of course, yeah, 1024 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,780 educate yourself on the other sides of the business. You know, 1025 00:57:23,780 --> 00:57:29,300 we just had our new friend Jason Hartless on Jason the guy's 1026 00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:31,460 always got a, you know, he's always got, like, a vinyl 1027 00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:34,160 business, you know, selling vinyl records. And his dad was 1028 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,860 in the industry, so he's smart to kind of keep his Okay, it's 1029 00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:39,980 time. We got to get you out of here. But really quick, the Fave 1030 00:57:39,980 --> 00:57:41,320 Five, favorite color, 1031 00:57:42,820 --> 00:57:45,040 I'd say blue. 1032 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,880 There's a lot of blues. Man like not baby blue, dark blue, royal 1033 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:49,420 blue, 1034 00:57:49,660 --> 00:57:53,200 I'd say probably a royal blue or light blue. Yeah, nice, like an 1035 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:53,860 ocean blue. 1036 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,500 Favorite drink, 1037 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,360 well, other than sprite here, which is sugary, yes, 1038 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,560 I don't know. I probably say I've liked the buy drinks. Bai 1039 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,040 Bye. 1040 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,160 Oh, yeah, yeah, bye, bye, bye, yeah. Justin Timberlake, 1041 00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:13,860 what is it? Is it like infused with some sort of a happiness, 1042 00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:15,420 or something, or what, like a, 1043 00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:19,140 you know, this does drink. It's kind of inner 1044 00:58:19,140 --> 00:58:22,940 in it, basically, which I'm starting to research, is there 1045 00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:25,520 are pros and cons with that, but, yeah, it's, it's still 1046 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,160 better than tons of sugar, like this sprite I'm drinking right 1047 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:28,880 now. Justin didn't 1048 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,380 explain it very well. Sometimes 1049 00:58:30,380 --> 00:58:32,900 a sprite is just, you know, when you got an upset stomach, it's 1050 00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:35,600 like, boom, there you go. What's your favorite kind of food or 1051 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,320 dish? 1052 00:58:37,580 --> 00:58:39,200 I love anything with shrimp in it. 1053 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,640 Shrimp at Dufay, fried shrimp, deep fried fish, burger, all the 1054 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,200 stuff. Who's that? I totally 1055 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:54,220 set myself up that bad and probably like Italian food, most 1056 00:58:54,220 --> 00:58:58,300 of any kind of pasta, which is gotta be, you know, we gotta, we 1057 00:58:58,300 --> 00:58:59,920 gotta be careful with that. Yeah, Myers, 1058 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,240 what do you judge German Icelandic? Why is 1059 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,440 nor Norwegian? My dad is actually from Norway, and he 1060 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:10,140 migrated to Brooklyn in the 50s. You look like you 1061 00:59:10,140 --> 00:59:14,220 could swing a hammer. Thanks, man. Yeah, hammer, yeah, yeah. 1062 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,140 All my behind you somewhere here, 1063 00:59:16,140 --> 00:59:20,900 all my Scandinavian homies, yeah, yeah. So that's really it. 1064 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,460 Dolph Lundgren is my hero. Yes, yes. What about a favorite song? 1065 00:59:25,460 --> 00:59:25,640 Does 1066 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,460 you have a song that just keeps rearing its ugly head throughout 1067 00:59:28,460 --> 00:59:30,080 stages of your life? Or 1068 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,400 I'd say, 1069 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,620 any police song really? Yeah, but driven cult of personality 1070 00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:42,280 is a badass one, because living color was a huge influence. 1071 00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:45,220 What's the thing that will does, like, do, got into God, do gun 1072 00:59:45,220 --> 00:59:49,360 and do bang. So, boom, boom, boom, right? It's just kind of 1073 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,060 like a poly rhythm, right? Or is it just a feel thing? No, I 1074 00:59:52,060 --> 00:59:55,180 mean, it's, it's in the pocket in the gun. Just got the 1075 00:59:55,180 --> 00:59:59,500 way to be triplets. But it's, you know, it's in that it's a 1076 00:59:59,500 --> 00:59:59,920 triplet. 1077 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,300 Isn't it crazy that we both just sung it perfectly. Do God? Do 1078 01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:08,880 God and do God gave man he was I really loved his playing and the 1079 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,600 fidelity and those records. And uncle said, favorite movie, 1080 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,260 favorite movie, 1081 01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:19,380 three amigos. Yeah, that really holds up. Yeah, man, you know, I 1082 01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:22,700 love all these complex, amazing, brilliant things going on with 1083 01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:26,960 directors and their concepts and stuff. But when it comes to just 1084 01:00:27,380 --> 01:00:31,580 a whole, a soulful feeling, fun, lighthearted thing, there's 1085 01:00:31,580 --> 01:00:35,120 nothing better nowadays than ever. And I just rediscovered 1086 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:35,960 the three amigos. 1087 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,420 We had a lot of interstellar recently. Everyone's like, 1088 01:00:38,420 --> 01:00:40,880 Christopher Nolan, Christopher Nolan, Christopher Nolan. I'm 1089 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,380 like, Well, what about something stupid and just fun? Like the 1090 01:00:44,380 --> 01:00:45,880 movie about Mary, 1091 01:00:45,940 --> 01:00:48,220 for me is airplane. It always holds up. 1092 01:00:48,220 --> 01:00:51,820 Yeah, yeah, airplane. And then I also nerd out to, you know, I 1093 01:00:51,820 --> 01:00:53,740 need the Lord of the Rings. Like, once 1094 01:00:53,740 --> 01:00:56,860 a year you got to sit down. You watch all of them back to back. 1095 01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:59,620 That's really crazy that you got those four films, right? Big 1096 01:00:59,620 --> 01:01:03,060 that took up. That was it three films that took up three books, 1097 01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:05,820 right? Yeah. And then, then you get the Hobbit, which is the 1098 01:01:05,820 --> 01:01:08,700 shortest book of all that they made three movies out of, 1099 01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:12,540 I know, but, and I know, if some people weren't the purest, 1100 01:01:12,540 --> 01:01:16,440 probably not have been, you know, as content with those 1101 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,740 movies. But you gotta, can't deny, they're amazing. They're 1102 01:01:19,740 --> 01:01:22,700 amazing, yeah. So once a year you got to watch all three of 1103 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,700 those. Brother, so awesome to have you here. We can go on and 1104 01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:29,300 on forever, but I love this. I'm a huge fan, I mean, a huge fan, 1105 01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,000 and I'm making Jim a huge fan today. Thanks, 1106 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,320 buddy. Yeah, very comfy. 1107 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,280 It's very comfy here in the studio. You know, we love some 1108 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,140 dance moves, yeah? Because we like the dance studios. 1109 01:01:41,140 --> 01:01:43,420 Yes, cowbell. 1110 01:01:43,780 --> 01:01:46,480 We should. We should have a cowbell on site. So everybody 1111 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,240 show up for the the big Humphries McGee tour this year, 1112 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,620 starting July 4 in Wallingford, Connecticut, Connecticut 1113 01:01:53,620 --> 01:01:54,640 Westport, West 1114 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,260 and then, I mean, you're from the East Coast, we're both 1115 01:01:59,260 --> 01:02:02,100 conditions, yeah. Oh, really, yeah, we're both conditions to 1116 01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:04,680 hold it against us. I'm from Milford, Connecticut, and he's 1117 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,260 from Danbury, Connecticut. Danbury, yeah. And everybody, 1118 01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:11,520 check out Chris myers as Chris myers drums.com he's on all the 1119 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,000 socials. Hit him with a DM say, Hey man, I love your stuff. I 1120 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,160 saw you on the rich Redmond show. And Hey guys, thanks for 1121 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,300 listening. Be sure to subscribe, share, rate and review. It helps 1122 01:02:20,300 --> 01:02:23,660 people find the show, and until next time, hey, we'll be here 1123 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,440 See ya. Thanks. Chris, thank you rich man. Jim. Thank you guys. 1124 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,120 Thank you, Jim, yeah, yeah. 1125 01:02:29,540 --> 01:02:34,400 This has been the rich Redmond show. Subscribe, rate and follow 1126 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:34,880 along@richredman.com 1127 01:02:36,740 --> 01:02:38,420 forward, slash podcasts. You.