WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:13.320 practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. 4 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:15.560 I'm Kyle and this is Chris Yes. 5 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:17.719 And today we are your Bible Guys because Jeff is 6 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.039 out of town across the world doing great work with 7 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:24.039 the Timothy Initiative and which you can google and learn about. 8 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:29.160 But today we're actually in the third day of the 9 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:33.240 second week of a series, the brand new series that 10 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:37.759 we're talking about, Dangerous Prayers, and today is actually the 11 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.759 theme of this week is surrender, Prayers of Surrender, which 12 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:42.679 is pretty crazy. That's been great, Yeah, it's been great. 13 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:45.600 And then so today before we get into that, we 14 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:48.159 have a brand new segment and this is pretty crazy. 15 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:50.039 I don't think I've ever done this segment like this. 16 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:52.159 Desire's coming up with new ideas all the time, and 17 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:54.079 this one's called Advice Booth. 18 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:57.479 Okay, So yeah, what we're gonna do here is we're 19 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.759 each going to give each other advice on a topic 20 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:02.679 and then we're gonna let the listeners vote. So I'm 21 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.799 assuming that's gonna be through YouTube. Correct if you're watching 22 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:07.840 on YouTube or even if you're listening on Spotify. 23 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:10.040 Or who knows that nobody will do it, Kyle, Oh, 24 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.319 I bet they will, but I but I hope they. 25 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:14.640 I hope you take just a second and respond to us, 26 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.640 because we love seeing feedback and I read. 27 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.200 I know you do too. I read the comments. I 28 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:20.719 love seeing this stuff, so this will be a chance 29 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:22.840 to get people's responses. 30 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:24.120 You know that I actually don't read the comments. 31 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:26.280 You don't know, do they always talk about I don't 32 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:28.560 even I don't even have it on my phone YouTube. 33 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.400 Listen. Since I've done a five this is the episode 34 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:35.719 seven to seventy three, and then HG Daily we did 35 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:37.640 one hundred and fifty episodes. So we've done like a 36 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.920 thousand episodes and I don't think I've ever once read 37 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:41.640 a single comment. 38 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:44.519 Oh okay, well they're usually pretty favorable. I like you 39 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:44.840 a lot. 40 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:48.439 Well that's cool, but but I probably need to. I 41 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:51.719 probably need to. I probably should. But Jeff reads a lot. 42 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:55.920 Yeah, and so he tells you almost like me spoilt. Yes, 43 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.400 all right, so now for this, you guys comments, let 44 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:00.439 us know who you think you gave it better advice? Okay, 45 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.519 so advice booth here's the first one. How do you 46 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:06.560 stop hitting snooze in the morning? Give people some in bites, Chris, Well, 47 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:06.959 I don't know. 48 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.159 I don't know how you do it. But if I 49 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:10.960 if that was my goal, if my goal is to 50 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:15.840 not hit snooze, then my life hack is I would 51 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.319 take whatever the alarm is and I would put it 52 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.360 far from the bed forced me to get out of 53 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:22.599 the bed. 54 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:24.759 Yeah, that was that's what you're gonna say. See, we 55 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:27.319 didn't talk about this beforehand, and so I was worried 56 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:28.680 we're going to steal each other's bed. 57 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:31.599 Hey, but that is that is the I mean, isn't 58 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:32.840 that the best one? 59 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:35.080 Yes, which shows yourself to get up, which. 60 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:36.360 Shows that you and I are both intelligent. 61 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:37.199 Yes, exactly. 62 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:39.439 So you put it way across the room, so you 63 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.319 literally have to get up, yes, And so it's like 64 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.360 that that way, you're not going to hit snooze at all. Yes, 65 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.439 And that's only if you have a promised snooze. So 66 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.879 my daughter, God bless her, we love her so much, Tory, 67 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:53.080 she's so great. But she'll set like six alarms on 68 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.400 the horn. Oh wow, right, my daughters do that too. Yeah, 69 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:57.639 And so it's like it's like, oh, seven thirty seven 70 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.719 thirty five, seven forty seven forty five, so she knows 71 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:04.080 that she can hit uh, you know, off or snooze 72 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.759 or whatever, and uh and I'm just thinking, why do 73 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:08.280 you even want to play that game? 74 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:10.439 So I had a season of life. I cannot remember 75 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.159 the year, but it was not that one maybe within 76 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.000 the last ten years where I went probably a year 77 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.439 or two where I would snooze for an hour and 78 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:18.960 ten every morning. I would set my alarm early and 79 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:20.520 I knew that I had up until this time, so 80 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:22.439 be an hour. For some reason, it was this weird thing. 81 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:24.680 I enjoyed doing it. Okay, so since you stole what 82 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:26.319 I think is great advice, I'm going to give a 83 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:30.039 second potential option, which is to make your ring tone 84 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:32.960 so annoying and so loud that you don't want to 85 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:34.800 hear it again. That could be an I pack. 86 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:38.400 Give us an example, Kyle. Yeah, like like like like 87 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:39.520 a song? 88 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:42.080 Oh, I don't know about a song? Yeah, I pick 89 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:43.199 a song, okay, okay. 90 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:45.479 Would be anything girly for you? Shoot? 91 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:46.840 Yeah, I don't know. I think you'd have to. 92 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.520 Be like Friday Friday? Yeah, what's that? Uh? 93 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.759 Was I persume saying the song, uh, something like something black, 94 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:55.800 Rebecca Black, Friday, Yeah Friday, be up there. It may 95 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:57.639 be a show tune. 96 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.240 Yeah, oh, showtunes would do it, That would do it. 97 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.000 No, No, I'd lay there and be like the show too. Yeah, 98 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:04.520 let's keep this on. But I think that could be 99 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:06.960 a good hack. Right, is put whatever the ring tone 100 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.520 is or a song that's so annoying that it forces 101 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:10.800 you to get up because you don't want to hear 102 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:11.520 that ring tone again? 103 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.719 Okay, all right, good advice yep. And the number two. 104 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:17.000 Number two? 105 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.240 What is the ultimate life hack for getting free food? 106 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:22.920 What a question? What is the ultimate life hack for 107 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:24.959 getting free food? You know what? I thought about this 108 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:27.720 for two seconds before we started filming, and I thought, 109 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.920 the only ideas that I can come up with are 110 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:32.000 all bad ideas. 111 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:34.399 Yeah, good, then share your best bad idea. 112 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:36.560 Well, for instance, like I would never do any of 113 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:40.560 these things willingly because they're they're they're wrong, right, because 114 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:42.639 I can't think of a life hack to get free 115 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.079 food in an honest way, right, Like, like, how could 116 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:48.079 you honestly get free food in an honest way? 117 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.079 I think an app would be an option. Do you 118 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.279 ever do food apps. No, no, okay. So for example, 119 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:55.639 I have friends of mine who are big into like 120 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:57.519 the McDonald's app if they you know, I know that 121 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.279 may not be everyone's Fortepe, but Taco Bell, McDonald's. There's 122 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.040 apps that allows you to get a lot of free food. 123 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:06.000 Yeah really yeah, okay, all right, that's one honest way 124 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:06.959 you could do it, all right, But that. 125 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:08.199 Means you have to spend a bunch of money and 126 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:08.600 then you. 127 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:10.680 Get Sometimes sometimes they'll just be going there and it'll 128 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:12.759 be like with your ordernay, you get free French fries. 129 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.079 So free food, okay, all right, So that that is 130 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.759 sort of a hack, yes, okay, a way that you 131 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:20.040 would say is a bad advice. 132 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.759 Okay there, Yes, Well, let me tell you. Let me 133 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:24.839 tell you a story. When I was in the eighties, 134 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:27.040 it was like it was like mid eighties, and there 135 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.920 was a really fancy restaurant our area called the Brown Derby. Okay, 136 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.839 And and and so we we Jeff and I my buddy, 137 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.279 would go in and we'd sit down and they bring 138 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.839 us fresh bread and uh, and we'd say we just 139 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.759 want waters, okay, and so they give us ice water. 140 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:43.639 And then we would sit down and we would do 141 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:45.720 the loaf of bread, eat bread and butter, and it 142 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:47.920 was so good. It was just this massive piece of bread. 143 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:49.519 And then they come over and they say, what are 144 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:50.759 you going to order? They say, oh, we just want 145 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:51.199 the bread. 146 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:53.279 There you go, that's a good life hack. 147 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.120 And then and then they go what do you mean. 148 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:57.800 I'm like, well, we just want the bread. So they 149 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.160 brought us over another loaf of bread. They're like, well, 150 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.360 you have to order something. I'm like, no, we don't. 151 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.160 It's free. It's free bread. So can you please bring 152 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:08.680 us more free bread? Yeah? And we were sort of like, 153 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.639 you know, sort of like you know, telling the waiter like, uh, 154 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.160 I think you're I think you're obligated to bring us bread. 155 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.000 So the waiter agrees, so he brings us more bread. 156 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:19.279 So he literally waits on us. We go through like 157 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.879 three whole loaves of bread and butter like like wonderful bread, 158 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:26.399 drink the water, and then walk out without pan of dime. Wow. 159 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.040 Now we only did that like three times, yeah, before 160 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:33.199 the management somehow caught on because apparently enough waiters complained. 161 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.360 And then the fourth time we went in there, we 162 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:38.680 sat down and they recognized us and they said, uh, 163 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.000 there's a charge for bread, okay, And they said it's 164 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.199 like four ninety five or something if you're not getting 165 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.519 anything else. And I was like, oh, they caught on, gotcha, gotcha. 166 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:47.480 But that was my life hack. 167 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:50.120 But I got it's not a terrible concept when you 168 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:52.120 consider the fact there's a lot of restaurants out there 169 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.600 that will almost fill you up before the food comes, right. 170 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.519 I think of like Texas Roadhouse as one Yeah, I'll back, 171 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.839 or what's one place down roadhouse? 172 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:01.519 Uh don horns. 173 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.079 Yes, long Horns takeout? That is great bread before you 174 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:04.759 even get the food. 175 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.079 So yeah, a lot of Mexican restaurants do free chips 176 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:07.360 and saws. 177 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:09.839 Yes, and there's my meal arrived. I'm like, I'm halfway 178 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:11.680 full before the food even got here. So all right, 179 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:13.199 that is a good life hack. I'm gonna go with 180 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:18.399 I'm gonna go with terrible advice. But I'll just say 181 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:20.160 because you, well, I guess yours is kind of like. 182 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.439 Oh, mine's terrible. Yea, yeah, I would never do that today. 183 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:23.360 Yes, it's bad advice. 184 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:24.600 I would say the way that was before I was 185 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:26.360 a Christian, Oh that was that was b C. 186 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:28.879 Yeah, mine, I would say is terrible. Advice, just for anybody, 187 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:30.600 Christian or non Christian, is just to put it all 188 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:31.319 on a credit card. 189 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:36.279 Oh, just put a credit card. Not free. Ultimately that's 190 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:36.920 more expensive. 191 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:38.680 You're gonna be paying for it. Yeah yeah, yeah, seven 192 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.480 percent interest on the long run. No, but but for real, 193 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:42.319 i'd say the app you. 194 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.240 Just say seven percent, isn't that what it is? 195 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:46.160 No? No, No, they're a twenty five Okay, sorry. 196 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.000 I was gonna say, like seven percent of the sales tax? 197 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.279 Yeah, okay. So I to just one thing about I Actually, 198 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.120 when I use my credit card, I try to pay 199 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.759 it off. And I think popest people should try to write. 200 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:57.279 Oh you're gonna you're gonna you have to throw that. 201 00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:59.279 In there, yes, because honestly, I didn't even know how much. 202 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:00.399 How much are they usually? Is it? 203 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.480 Well, it depends, it depends. I was just gonna say, 204 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:06.120 if you have a seven percent interest on your credit card, 205 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:06.759 that's a good card. 206 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:07.079 That's good. 207 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.560 Okay, I'd say, hang on to that. Okay, yeah, good. 208 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:12.279 Right, that's all right. So yeah, get some apps. Get them. Actually, 209 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:13.800 do do you ever eat like McDonald's, even for like 210 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:15.839 breakfast or anything? You don't strike me as a fast 211 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:16.360 you know, you know. 212 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:18.959 What's so funny is I will I will do McDonald's 213 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.199 and I'm good for like a year. Yeah, and then 214 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.519 and then it'll be literally a year later before I 215 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.800 go through. And it's almost always breakfast. 216 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:27.360 Yeah, I'm a little bit I'm in the same boat. 217 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:29.279 But but I do know that a couple of years 218 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:30.839 ago because when I'll go with my friends to a 219 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.399 golf outing, there's always McDonald's in town that we stop at. 220 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.080 So I have the app and actually does have a 221 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:38.039 good deal. So there's my life hack. Get the McDonald's app. 222 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:40.279 All right, Well there you go. All right, Well, I'll 223 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:43.679 tell you what that was. That was difficult. It was 224 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.159 difficult to come up with those kinds of answers, right, 225 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:48.600 and you know what else is difficult. 226 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:49.480 What's difficult. 227 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.320 The teaching is about forgiveness and faith that we're about 228 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.720 to unpack. And Luke, chapter number seven. 229 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.360 I'll just say, you're doing a great job this week 230 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:57.200 with the transitions. 231 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:59.279 Well, you know what, good I've taken all three of 232 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.480 them as we were on the third day. Yeah, So 233 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.879 for the remainder of the week, I'm now announcing to 234 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.159 our listeners you're responsible for the next. 235 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.399 Two okay, sounds good. All right, that's difficult, you know, 236 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:12.639 it's difficult what we're. 237 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.000 About to No, no, no, no, I've already done that. 238 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:19.600 All right, Luke seventeen, verses one through six. The section 239 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:23.279 here says it's Jesus talking about forgiveness and faith, says 240 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:27.120 in verse one and seventeen, Chapter seventeen. One day, Jesus 241 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.320 said to his disciples, there will always be temptations to sin, 242 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:34.120 But what sorrow awaits the person who does the tempting. 243 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:36.639 It would be better to be thrown into the sea 244 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:39.559 with a millstone hung around your neck than to cause 245 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:42.200 one of these little ones to fall into sin. So 246 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:47.000 watch yourselves. If another believer sins, rebuke that person. Then 247 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:50.559 if there is repentance, forgive. Even if that person wrongs 248 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.440 you seven times a day, and each time turns again 249 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:57.720 and ask forgiveness, you must forgive. The apostles said to 250 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.480 the Lord, show us how to increase our faith. The 251 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.600 Lord answered, if you had faith even as small as 252 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.720 a mustard seed, you could say to this mulberry tree, 253 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.440 may you be uprooted and thrown into the sea, and 254 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.559 it would obey you. Man. 255 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:12.879 Is that it? Yeah? 256 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:15.240 There? One through six yep, okay. 257 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:18.440 So the dangerous prayer then, is just that simple sentence. 258 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:19.039 Right. 259 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:21.639 The apostles said, to the Lord, show us how to 260 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:24.679 increase our faith. And they said that, of course, in 261 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.879 light of the really hard teaching. Yes, now you know 262 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:31.240 what's so interesting. You and I live post Jesus, right, 263 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:34.559 I mean you were two thousand years post Jesus. And 264 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.480 so the concept of loving one another and loving your 265 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.879 enemies is something that we've grown up with for generations, 266 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.960 and so it's not unusual. It's not mind blowing to 267 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:49.440 hear love your enemies. But isn't it odd and strange 268 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:53.360 and almost mind blowing? You think about when Jesus said 269 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:56.320 a new commandment, I give to you love one another. 270 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:00.799 It was a brand new thought, which is why Jesus 271 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:04.039 often said, you've heard it said an eye for an eye, 272 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:05.840 a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you 273 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:09.679 love your enemies, forgive those that persecute you. Right, And 274 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.240 it's it's just like this, this brand new thought. In 275 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.360 the Old Testament, when you grew up, things were like 276 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:20.120 pretty ruthless, in fact, very ruthless. The world was so 277 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:23.720 harsh and even even the standard you know, there was 278 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:27.399 no government a lot of times necessarily, and so there 279 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.519 would be there's there's social law, there's there's there's there's 280 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:34.120 you know, the ability to take revenge that you were 281 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.200 within your right a lot of times. You know, think 282 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.320 about the wild Wild West, only only worse than that, 283 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.679 right where it's like you were allowed to it was justified. Right. 284 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.639 I remember watching a movie, an old Western, where somebody 285 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.000 shot somebody down and then and then everybody was standing 286 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:50.919 around watching it, and and and he says, he goes, 287 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.519 you saw it. He provoked it. You saw it, and 288 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:55.639 that was the all thing he needed, apparently, right, He's 289 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:58.080 like everybody here witnessed it, he provoked it. And I 290 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.360 was like, oh, apparently that's okay, right. You know, killing 291 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.320 somebody in the streets within the wild bill West is okay. 292 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:06.200 Because as everybody saw it and can say, yeah. 293 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:08.399 Everybody can say you were justified what you're saying, right. 294 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:12.600 So the idea, the idea that Jesus would come along 295 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.279 in Luke chapter seventeen right here and say okay, ready 296 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:19.759 for this. Somebody is going to offend you seven times. 297 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.200 And you are probably you have probably grown up either 298 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.039 teaching you know that your parents or you're even your priest, 299 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.320 or your your pharisee, your local leader has taught you 300 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:34.360 to either hate them, or to shun them, or to 301 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:38.480 excommunicate them, or to even get revenge on them. But 302 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:41.279 I'm here to tell you you are to forgive them. Yeah, 303 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.759 even if they offend you seven times every single day. 304 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.519 This revolutionary idea. And I think for me, I thn't 305 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.919 the thing that stands out right before that it talks about. 306 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.720 He says, I another believer sins, rebuke that person. I 307 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:55.519 don't know about you, but when you hear that word rebuke, 308 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:57.320 it's not It's not like a hot word. You know 309 00:12:57.320 --> 00:12:59.399 a lot of times like rebuke, you're kind of like, oh. 310 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:02.480 But the the point it makes in the notes here 311 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:05.039 in this Bible is here. It says Luke about three 312 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.799 through fourth says, to rebuke does not mean to point 313 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:10.039 out every sin we see. It means to bring sin 314 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:13.720 to a person's attention with the purpose of restoring that 315 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.559 person's relationship with God and with fellow humans. So that says, 316 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.000 when you feel you must rebuke another Christian for sin, 317 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.240 check your attitudes before you speak. Do you love that person? 318 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.279 Are you willing to forgive unless rebuke is tied to forgiveness, 319 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:27.840 it will not help the sinning person. I love that. 320 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:30.000 If it's not tied to forgiveness, it will not help 321 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.799 the sinning person. So I think what he's saying is, 322 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:33.639 if you're going to go rebuke somebody, it's not a 323 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:36.080 bad thing. That's a good thing. Even if you're receiving rebuke, 324 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:37.840 it can be a good thing. But you have to 325 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.200 really check your heart. If your goal is to find 326 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:45.720 mutual reconciliation to eventually lead to forgiveness. If your goal 327 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:47.639 is not that, then you're not going to help the 328 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:49.360 person and your heart's in the wrong place. I think 329 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:50.120 that's great. 330 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:52.399 Yeah, and a lot of Christians, a lot of Christians 331 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:55.799 miss this. Yeah, you know, one of the worst stories 332 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:59.159 that I've ever heard in my entire life. And I'm 333 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:01.000 serious when I say that it's one of the worst 334 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:02.639 stories I've ever heard in my entire life. It was 335 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:05.080 actually by one of our staff members, and she said 336 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.279 that she grew up in a real conservative church, and 337 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.279 conservative meaning like you know, they're all about rules and 338 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:13.320 you know, focusing on these sort of legalistic kind of things. 339 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:17.720 And she said that one time the pastor was standing 340 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:20.080 by the door. And this was, you know, and probably 341 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.759 in the late seventies or something, right back when hippies 342 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:24.879 and all those kinds of things. And this kid had 343 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:27.320 walked into church and he was coming to church, but 344 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.440 he had long hair. And the pastor said, boy, you're 345 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:32.559 not coming to my church with that long hair. You 346 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:34.279 turn around and go get a haircut. And when you 347 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:37.000 get a haircut, then you're welcome to my church. I 348 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:40.600 promise you when I say, I have a physical, visceral 349 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:44.200 reaction just telling that story. Right, so you know, that 350 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:47.360 guy's eternity, you know, could be at stake. He could 351 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.600 have walked away from God and everything else. Right, the 352 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:53.720 damage that that causes not only to that man's eternity, 353 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:56.720 but also maybe all of his legacy and his generations. 354 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.080 And I'm not saying God still can't reach that boy, 355 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:03.799 but I am saying that I personally know the hundreds 356 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:08.840 of stories that have kept people away from God for 357 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.679 years and sometimes even permanently, right because of things like that, And. 358 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:16.799 Well, and then that person the pastor might have referenced, 359 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:19.279 you know, whats the it's it's a proverb about an 360 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:23.080 open rebuke, yes, like, but people take that out of context. 361 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:24.600 Right, that's exactly, that's right. That was my point. 362 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:26.519 Rebuke you I'm gonna, I'm gonna, And it's like no 363 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.360 if your heart is not yeah, so. 364 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:30.240 Sorry, yeah, no, no, no, go ahead, finish. 365 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:31.639 I just I was just thinking about that. I think 366 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.200 that oftentimes people see the rebuke thing and it does 367 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:37.120 have a negative connotation because of the fact that it's 368 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:43.240 been used as as a justification for unkind or ungodly 369 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:46.120 or or hurtful words that are said and unproductive. 370 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.799 Yes, exactly. So it's like it's like rebuke. Think about 371 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:51.200 the purpose of rebuke. So the purpose of rebuke is 372 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:55.120 directly tied to restoration, repentance, restoration, and everything else. So 373 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.960 the purpose of rebuke is not for the sake of rebuke. Right. 374 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:01.159 So it's like to all the Christians who type in caps, 375 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:05.639 it's like, that's not the purpose of you know, your platform. 376 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:08.360 The purpose of your platform is for the purpose for 377 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.000 somebody else to be, you know, to come to Christ. 378 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.759 So I think of it about as effective as this. 379 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:16.159 And I actually said this, literally, I just said this. 380 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:21.440 So last Sunday, I actually had the privilege of going 381 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.720 to the away Lions game. Okay, so we were in 382 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.320 green Bay. The Lions did not do very well. No, 383 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.799 in fact, it was that part of the trip was 384 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:34.240 pretty darn discouraging. However, the trip itself to Green Bay 385 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:37.039 was pretty awesome. And as we were walking through Green Bay, 386 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:38.480 and by the way, what a wonderful place to be, 387 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.600 I just have to publicly say wow to the people 388 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:44.080 of green Bay. Just best best stadium in the United 389 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:48.080 States of America. Best people, I'm not kidding, not even 390 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.279 close in my mind. Well, just an unbelievable, over the 391 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:55.720 top experience. So good job green Bay. But anyway, doesn't 392 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.600 make me like the team anym though, but good job 393 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:02.080 green Bay. So anyway, and walking through uh, this whole 394 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:04.599 big strip where all these people are short or shoulder walking, 395 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:08.880 there's the preacher on the microphone, but he's on a megaphone, right, 396 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:12.559 and he's shouting things in the megaphone to people walking 397 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.759 by the streets. And the things that he's shouting a 398 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:19.759 lot of them are true things. They're true, but they're 399 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:24.319 about as effective as you know. I mean, I'm trying 400 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.559 to think of an illustration of the most ineffective thing 401 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:28.920