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Hello and welcome! This is VCD Roundtable Ep. 53.

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And a lot has happened in the VMware Cloud Provider space,

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not only that we had, I think, one of the largest Challenge

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Days in Sweden last week --

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no, this week.

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But also quite a few announcements

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from VMwareby Broadcom around products, licensing,

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packaging, and also some announcements

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we are going to make at the end

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regarding some upcoming events.

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But before we get to that, Sascha, do you want to start?

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I can.

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Hello.

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Yes, welcome also from my side.

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Maybe you can mute yourself.

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Yes.

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OK.

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Welcome also from my side.

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Yeah, we had a great week with the Challenge Days

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in Scandanavia, a lot of new

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inputs from the service providers,

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some parts we want to talk about later,

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so also some hints about some new features

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and how they work.

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And with that, Matthias.

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Yeah, curious to hear all the news, Toby.

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You?

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Yes, also the same for me.

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Hello and welcome to Ep. 53.

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So back to Sascha.

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Yes, so with that, as a topic

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for this episode of the VCD Roundtable,

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we will cover a bit of what's new,

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what's changing in the service provider

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program, and what's interesting to

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know, what we want to share with you.

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So Monday and Tuesday, we had

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the Challenge Days in Stockholm.

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And there was one interesting topic.

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We got a few requests on how it works,

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and nobody finds how does it work in the user interface

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or in the Cloud Director interface.

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And this is a VM placement on guest OS base.

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So that means we have a lot of

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vendors who are in need or products that

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need to be licensed on the host space.

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And a lot of service providers

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started to select or create

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affinity rules at the vCenter level.

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But the problem is, if we create it on the vCenter level,

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we had problems every time in

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combination with Cloud Director.

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And now we have this feature

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with the last Cloud Director version

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that we can create policies that

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replace VMs on dedicated hosts based

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on the guest OS.

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Yes, Matthias?

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I would not say with the latest VCD version

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that features there since--

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I don't know, 10.4, 10.3?

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Okay, yeah.

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Just saying.

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Yeah, sure.

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But again, a lot of--

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Maybe it just appeared within the community.

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Yes, so a few service providers searched for it.

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And it's only possible to configure it over API.

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So that's the point.

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Have you found it in the

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interface on Cloud Director?

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Really?

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So maybe you can share where it is.

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It's a placement policy.

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So maybe a misunderstanding.

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Maybe it's a misunderstanding.

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But in the end, you just

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create these DRS groups in vSphere.

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And then you grab those groups

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and map it in the cloud director UI

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in the service provider context.

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Then you can publish those placement policies to a tenant.

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And then you just use it.

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That's how you place a virtual machine to a DRS group.

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And that has a DRS rule.

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Then the virtual machine is placed on the resepctive host

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group.

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Yes, but the feature means now that you

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can place virtual machines automatically

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based on guest OS.

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So if you have selected Windows, for example,

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all Windows virtual machines will be placed on dedicated--

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sources. Ahh, so that's the misunderstanding.

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So you're talking about an automated placement.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Because of licensing and so on.

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So maybe it was there before, but I don't know.

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As Matthias has just heard, we're talking

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about two different flavors.

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So the first flavor is just to have a normal VM placement

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policy, which has been there since 10.3

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It was there in VCD, where you as a customer can select,

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that you would like to utilize this placement policy.

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And then my VM gets placed on cluster number APC, whatever.

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Or inside the cluster of a particular group of hosts.

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But what is new--

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and this is what Sascha is referring with 10.6.1--

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is now-- and this is only available via the API.

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If the customer selects, for example, Windows,

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automatically the VMs gets placed

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on the host, which are entitled for Windows licensing.

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At the end, we are still talking about the same it is.

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A DRS-based group, host group, and VM group.

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But now, with 10.6.1 VCD can do this automatically

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without doing any interference from a service provider

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or from the customer itself

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just based on the OS you selected.

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Get a little amendment, and it's 10.6.1.

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10.6.1, OK.

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Not 10.6.1.1.

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OK.

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Good.

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So what else is new?

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So yeah, maybe let's start with

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the newest information about

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the new pricing guide.

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There is new information about download quantity

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of license keys.

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What does it mean?

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So they are-- yeah, for a long time, and in the contract,

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there was a maximum limit of license keys you can or you

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should create per contract.

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It was limited on the commits.

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But this was never executed in the past.

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And now there is--

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or there comes a message that you

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can have a maximum of 200% of license keys

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regarding your commit.

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That means, for example, if you have 2,000 license keys--

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2,000 calls in a commit, you can

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create a maximum of 4,000 license keys on that contract.

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Then that will become interesting for a lot of service

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providers who are running a

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lot of hosts in maintenance mode

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or non-active and try to use them as an overage.

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So that's one very interesting point here.

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And in the last weeks, there was the message

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that they will go down to 125% -- the max you can create and

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But that looks like this has changed again,

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because this information with the 125% is removed.

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And also in the pricing guide, they only

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mention now the 200%.

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So let's see what happens there.

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But if you need more license

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keys, maybe you can create them.

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So the limit will be active in the next days.

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That's one important new topic.

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The other topic is--

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was today regarding this topic you just mentioned.

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I think the last email I received about that was today.

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So they're constantly sending

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out emails over and over and over.

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Yes.

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And with that, also the announcement today,

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usage meter 9 is out.

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That means you have -- as aservice provider have now --

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90 days to upgrade your usage meters.

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That means it's very easy.

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There is an upgrade process.

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The only important topic, if you upgrade your usage meter,

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you need to create a token in the new portal, in the VCF

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portal, and need to enter this token in your usage meter

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when you're deploying the update.

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That's important.

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Also, for new usage meters, you need

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to first deploy the usage meter.

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You will get the ID like before from the usage meter.

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You can enter it in your VCF portal.

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Then you will-- or then you can create the token

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or must create the token.

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And the token must be placed manually in the usage meter.

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Again, that's so a connection can be established.

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And with the new usage meter, there are some parts

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you need to take a look at.

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So first of all, please make sure

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that you have new license keys deployed on your systems,

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because only the new license keys can be measured.

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And the new usage meter is now has the feature

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that the usage meter can meter also vDefend Firewall.

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And as we all know from the different contact tracks,

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until a few days ago, I think it was Monday or Tuesday

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when the new pricing guide was released.

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So before, there were no or there were no add-ons

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or no overage for add-ons.

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So you needed to go with a commit

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if you wanted to go with vDefend firewall.

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And there is now an exception for vDefend (NSX vDefend)

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So you can go now on demand with Distributed Firewall

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and Gateway Firewall and also

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with advanced threat protection.

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On the first view, that's a benefit for all

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of the service providers who want to try it.

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There's also the information coming out now

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that it is counted on host-based

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no longer on cluster-based like it was before.

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But that also means, please, before you

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deploy your new usage meter, please check your systems.

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If Distributed Firewall is enabled,

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If you're running a user-created

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Firewall, because if you deploy the new usage meter,

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running Distributed Firewall, have no license,

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it will be metered now.

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And you have to pay the overage for that

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for the list price.

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So that's very important to know.

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So yeah, please check it beforehand.

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And additional to that with the hosts,

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so on the host-based Distributed Firewall,

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so you can apply Distributed Firewall

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and pin Distributed Firewall

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to specific hosts in a cluster.

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So if you have only a small amount of customers

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who want to create or want to test or use Distributed

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Firewall, you are now able to use this feature

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and license only the hosts for Distributed Firewall

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you want to have.

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One thing I would like to add, especially

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on the NSX side, please ensure that you really

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have only new license keys.

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The legacy keys will not be metered in the correct way.

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This is also clearly documented already.

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The old license keys or the legacy keys

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will not be metered in the right way, which then

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can lead to a massive overage.

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So please ensure that you really are

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going to utilize the new NSX license keys.

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And if you have the add-ons like vDefend,

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then utilize the add-on license keys.

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But please get rid--

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before you really switch to

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the new usage meter to version 9,

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please get rid also of the old NSX license keys.

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That's really an important topic in the documentation.

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Yes, and with that, take a look at Distributed Firewall

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and add-ons threat protection.

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Work together with your sales team

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and create packages out of it.

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Because now it becomes really interesting for you

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to sell it to your customers.

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Also, if you have only a small amount of customers

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who want to start with Distributed Firewall,

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but security comes more and more important.

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And with that, you are now able to start

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with a small amount of hosts.

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I think it's overall very important to just keep an eye

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on all these timelines which are now showing up, especially

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in Europe.

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They fall in the summer season.

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So keep in mind that there are now additional timelines

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or something like that going to come for usage meter.

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Because that directly also influences new releases

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from Broadcom and other things.

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And the time frame they now provided

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is longer than what the contract actually said,

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because that was 14 days originally in there.

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So that would have been a much bigger stunt for everybody.

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Also, I don't think Sascha mentioned

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that there is documentation which came out

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from Broadcom on how to handle

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the offline bundles and stuff

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like that for VCF 5.2.

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For VCF 9, there should be a better solution

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for service providers.

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We will see.

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But for 5.2, it is now clearly documented

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how you should provide these offline bundles and everything

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else to your customers.

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And we can only strongly encourage you to really review

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that.

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Even after discussions, it's like Broadcom

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said again and again very, very clearly,

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it is not allowed to provide user accounts to the Broadcom

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portal to sub-CSPs.

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Even if you are basically three providers together

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under one contract, only the one under the contract

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is allowed to access the

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Broadcom portals, the Broadcom software

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downloads, do the license management,

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and everything else.

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Any other usage is a violation of the partner contract

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and the license agreement.

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And we did not only have the change

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of choosing between CSP and resale, this

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is directly also related to, let's say,

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misbehavior from partners.

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So even if you think that you can actually still do that,

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better be sure to really, really clarify that.

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I don't want to see you in a situation where you run

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into any serious issues with Broadcom

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because from what is heard, they are not actually

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going to joke around on these items.

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So make sure that you follow that.

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There is a Knowledge Base article describing all of that

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and how to do all of these things.

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And for 9, it hopefully should be different.

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We also heard during our event on Monday and Tuesday

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that there is a potential

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chance that VCF 9 might get a new VCD

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version on top of it, but only to make VCF 9 work.

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But again, the big, big question is,

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with the announcement that VCF in the future

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is not going to be--

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VCD or VCD is not going to be the multi-tenant solution

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moving forward, starting with 9.

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The big question is really is whether you are going to do--

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or whether you are going to want to combine these.

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However, with all the changes in VCF 9,

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we said that in the last two days in Stockholm very, very

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clearly again and again, it makes sense

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besides moving yourself to 5.2 point whatsoever,

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to also make sure that your internal teams are all

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trained already.

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Start training on VCF 9.

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There are so many substantial changes in the infrastructure

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that it is good to actually get going on that one

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so that you are prepared if your customers demand anything

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from the perspective.

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So that is good to know as well.

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So what else do we have?

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Any other news, Matthias?

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We have a lot of rain currently in Vienna,

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but no, the weather changes.

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This is the news I have.

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So that means you have a lot of clouds in Vienna.

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Yeah, no.

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...

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They're all gone.

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No backup, no restore.

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Maybe one more topic on news.

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So...

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Okay.

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So Tanzu Mission Control is back.

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So service providers for tenants of service providers.

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So you can deploy again Tanzu Mission Control

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self managed.

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That's included now in VCF.

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So that will be maybe for a few customers

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a real benefit to manage the Kubernetes environment.

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And it's again unclear what happens with TKGM.

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So in the last newsletter, they clearly

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mentioned that Broadcom will continue

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TKGM in the Telco Cloud Platform for Telco customers.

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But CSP customers are not mentioned there.

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So maybe we get some more information in the next days

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or week what happens with TKGM for service providers,

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especially for the CSE customers.

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What we heard is that will be supported for all

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of the service providers who

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used it before in the old model.

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But yeah, there is nothing in there written currently.

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So let's take a look.

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And what's also new in the new pricing guide

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is that data services, they were included before in VCF.

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And they are still included for everyone

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who used data services with VCF.

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But everyone who starts now with data services,

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it's no longer included and needs to be licensed per core.

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Is this or is it not a good idea.

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I don't know.

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Depending on the view for the CSPs, no. But for the

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shareholders maybe, let's see.

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Yeah.

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One thing here to add, Sascha, you mentioned it.

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TMC is now part of VCF.

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On the other hand, TMC as in SaaS application will go away.

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So for those who are still

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utilizing TMC hosted by Broadcom,

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please be aware this solution will go away.

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So you need to figure out how you can migrate your hosted

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TMC to a local installed TMC.

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Good.

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I think that was a lot of news from the VCSP program

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for another week.

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Just as a wrap up, I mean, we are going

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to come together with a group of our AI specialists team

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here in Dubai next week

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together with VMware and Broadcom.

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We have trainers from the US and the UK and everything else

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fly in so that we have a two days AI workshop.

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We are then going to head over to Bonn

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for the Service Provider Summit.

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Going to hold a keynote and workshop during that event.

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And then we are going to be at GITEX in Berlin.

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The following week and then we are off to Palo Alto

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for the first week of June.

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So if you are a service provider or if you are working

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for a service provider, if you want to also experience

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Challenge Days, if you want to actually be part

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of the ArchitectureThink Tank, then this

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will be a very, very special edition this year.

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Based on the invite by Broadcom, we

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will most likely we are clarifying the last couple

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of things tonight.

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But it looks like we will run both events

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on the Broadcom premises.

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We will have support from the BU's,

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but they will not change the

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generic format of our sessions.

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They just want to actually be able to network with you

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and actually get to know the service providers

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a lot better.

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So for those who were the last couple of months,

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as always saying, "it's so hard to get hold of these people"

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01:23:22,233 --> 01:23:24,766
-- this is your chance, your opportunity.

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If you want to join these events, please ping us.

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01:23:29,233 --> 01:23:30,666
It's still four weeks out.

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Monday, Tuesday, Challenge Days, Wednesday, Thursday 

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is the Architecture Think Tank, I think

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we have a certain cap in number of people.

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And I'm expecting the remaining seats to go pretty fast.

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So if you want to join in, let us know as quickly as possible

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so that we get your seats reserved.

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01:23:54,533 --> 01:23:56,033
And then we are going to be back in Dubai

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for another Challenge Days mid of June.

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So also, if you really want to have dry heat then,

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01:24:01,266 --> 01:24:04,966
humid heat, then there's a place to be.

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01:24:06,033 --> 01:24:08,766
We will definitely have above 30 degrees Celsius.

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01:24:09,033 --> 01:24:12,333
There is a high chance for over 40 degrees Celsius outside.

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01:24:12,333 --> 01:24:14,466
So if you enjoy that, that is definitely

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the place for your Challenge Days.

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01:24:17,933 --> 01:24:20,300
That being said, thank you for participating.

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01:24:20,333 --> 01:24:22,800
Thank you for joining in.

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01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,500
If you have any questions or anything else,

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01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:27,266
feel always free to ping us or join one of our communities.

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01:24:28,333 --> 01:24:29,966
With that being said, I'm out.

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01:24:30,566 --> 01:24:30,766
Sascha?

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01:24:32,666 --> 01:24:33,600
Yes, thank you.

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01:24:33,966 --> 01:24:35,766
And see you at one of the Challenge Days

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or the Architecture Think Tank.

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01:24:37,933 --> 01:24:42,166
Or maybe if you are on GITEX or at the Service Providers 

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01:24:42,166 --> 01:24:44,666
Summit, ping us and let's it together.

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01:24:46,899 --> 01:24:47,100
Toby?

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01:24:47,766 --> 01:24:48,766
Yeah, thanks for joining.

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01:24:49,033 --> 01:24:50,766
See you in the next episode.

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01:24:51,033 --> 01:24:52,566
See you in one of the next events.

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01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:53,933
Matthias.

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Thanks, everyone.

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01:24:56,466 --> 01:24:56,833
Take care.

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See you around.