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Coming to you from crash studios
in Music City, USA, Nashville.

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This is the rich Redmond show

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time your watch, your iPhone,
your clock, if you're so old

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fashioned, is correct? It's time
for another exciting episode of

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the rich redness show. We talk
about all things music,

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motivation, success and whatever
the heck comes up. Very exciting

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day because I am in the room
with Jim McCarthy, co host, co

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producer, drummer
extraordinaire, Jim, how are you

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buddy?

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Good man, how are you? It's been
it's been a minute. It's

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been a minute. You've been so
busy, you're producing 20

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podcasts, you know, you're
keeping the world safe for

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podcasts, this incredible new
media. Occasionally I'm lucky

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enough to get you on the Zoom,
you know, but we've been doing

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this on Zoom for about four
years. This pesky, you know,

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international pandemic reared
its ugly head, and so we were

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not doing the in persons, but
today we are in person. And not

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only are we with each other, we
are joined by Australia's

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hottest country rock duo.
They're great friends of mine.

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Of course, I'm talking about
Nick and Tom Wolf. Are you guys?

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Oh, my God, Nick brought his
beautiful bride. Hello. Now,

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Todd, you were saying that we
are you are about 10,000 miles

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from your homeland. And this
almost seems like a joke when I

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say it, because it's so
interesting that I know two

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people, three people, several
people from Tasmania. Yeah,

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doesn't get further away.
Really, it's so good to be back

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over here with you guys. It's
been 2019. Was the last time

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we're over and lost changed in
those five years. Yeah,

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Nashville's.

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Nashville is a lot busier than
it used to be. There's more

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traffic, right? It's crazy. It's
been it's such a journey to get

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over here. I'd forgotten how
harsh that wrong. No flight is

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like it just we used, used to be
pretty good at adapting to the

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time zone change, but

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this time, what is it like? 24
hours, 15

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hours ahead of us right now,
okay, it's like 130 in the

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morning back at home. Sometimes,
you know, you land here and it's

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you instantly just adjusted.
This time was not the case.

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Yeah, it was brutal. That is

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brutal jet lag. I remember one
time I went to Japan, and when I

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came back, I slept an entire 24
hour period. I suppose I think

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you're just supposed to adapt to
the current situation is that,

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you know, melatonin land well,
you

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know, really embrace melatonin.
We can't at home, you got to get

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that through a prescription. And
I think it's like 150 bucks

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something, but this time, it's
just Walmart and, yeah, buy like

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400 of them. So we've stocked up
on melatonin, stocked up on

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melatonin, and

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we've stocked up on Advil. PM,
before I go back,

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I gotta do these things. Are
watching. Don't

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sit my bag.

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I always have, like, before I
get on a flight, I got to make

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sure I have gum, yeah, to make
sure I have Mucinex. Okay.

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Otherwise, it blows out my ears.
Sure.

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It's horrible. The Mucinex is
used to, kind of drain the

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cavities. Yeah,

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it helps you with you just, you
know, because all the gumming up

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with the works and drain the
cavities. And when you go, when

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you come in for landing, it's
just, I feel like a hope hot

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pokers, mayors, yeah,

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man, well, I did take that trip
one time to see your beautiful

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country. And we, we were only
there for like, five days, yeah,

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Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney.
And I feel like Sydney is it

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like an amazing combination of,
like, New York and LA, you got

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the palm trees, but then there's
the culture, yeah, and there's

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like the fashion, and people are
beautiful, and there's like an

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energy. But I was, I was there
for like, 18 hours, yeah,

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that's a good I see we've said
LA is kind of Sydney's,

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Australia's LA, I think it's
probably good, yeah, good

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comparison, yeah.

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Now let me say this to folks
that aren't familiar with you.

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Check these guys out on the
Spotify. These are just some of

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their accomplishments. Their
first original music release was

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in 2010 and then there's this
amazing story about Australia's

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Got Talent, which I want you
guys to get into, six albums,

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written and recorded. But that
ain't nothing. Look at this. 19

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Australian number one country
songs, nine golden guitar

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Awards, which is kind of like
Australia's CMA Awards, and

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you're, it says that you're the
most awarded group in Australian

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country music history for
Australia, number one albums.

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That's a lot of congratulations,
guys.

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It's been a hell of a journey.
It's like, I think part of me is

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so proud of that, but also don't
like to say because you don't

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want to come across as

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like, yeah, we're with the
great.

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It's just we've worked really
hard at it, and we love doing

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this, so we're very proud of
what we've got to achieve,

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especially in the last few
years, like where the industry

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sort of embraces at home. It's
been, it's been amazing mate. So

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yeah, we're, we're very
fortunate to do this

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now, one of the one eight. Yes,
I agree. I'm right in there, in

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that lane with you, with the
gratitude factor, we're going to

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go back, because take us back.
Everyone's got to do that. But

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one of the latest
accomplishments, as you guys

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played with with the Tasmanian
Symphony Orchestra, we

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did. So this came about during
covid. We Australia got locked

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down pretty bad. Oh, yeah. So we
couldn't really, like, it was

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all sort of different state by
state. So there's a lot of

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states we couldn't go into tour.
So it was really hard for us. We

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were in Tassie. Now that was one
of the most locked down places,

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right? Well, yeah. And the thing
is, we're an island state, so we

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didn't even really have covid

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there. Like, kind of the good
side of it was they locked it

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down really hard and wouldn't
let their own in. But life was

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pretty well as it was. We just
couldn't leave, I guess, beacon

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still pretty much go anywhere,
and because we had zero or three

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cases, and those, those people
would have been like, indoors

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or, you know, so obviously
pretty extreme, but it was

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pretty for the most part. We was
just kicking around doing what

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normally do, that's right. So
during that lockdown, a friend

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of ours named Tom rhymes had
access to a church of all

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things, Wolf brothers playing in
a church. He's like, can you

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guys look, I'm doing acoustic
shows. I want to see musicians

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just start working again. And we
were like, Great, this would be

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really fun. I guess we're
probably known a bit more for,

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like, high energy, as you said,
country rock. I'm running over

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the stage like an idiot. It was
a really good opportunity. It

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was a really good opportunity to
slow things down, talk a bit

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more about the story, about the
songs. And he loved Like, he

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loved it. And he was like, Well,
I do a lot with the Tasmanian

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Symphony Orchestra, yeah. I
think this would actually be a

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really cool pairing, like
pairing, yeah. Talked about it

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for a few years, and then,
credit to the Tasmanian Symphony

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Orchestra, they came to us last
year and said, No, we really

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want to do this. We want to
invest in the charts, and we

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want to create something that's
really special to Tasmania in

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our state. And it was, like,
incredible. We, like, went

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through the set list about 20
times with them, and tried to

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pick sort of a covering of our
career and tell a story. And,

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yeah, it was a playing with that
orchestra was like, such a such

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a different beast than what we
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do, totally bucket listing, you
know, to hear songs that we've

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written over the last 10, you
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like, come to life in that
different way. And, you know, we

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got to, Tom did such a fantastic
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kind of was that, you know, an
early song girl, by the memory,

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that was kind of our first
number one that took a

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different, you know, some things
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Like that. We redid the chords.
We made it more like Glen

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Campbell, the song that that you
wrote that kind of night, which

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has been a massive song for us,
and it's always a staple in the

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set. Let's love it that kind of
took on, let's say like an

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Indiana Jones feel.

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You know that open the song you
wrote, open the show with this

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sort of orchestra intro that
went for two minutes, and it was

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like a movie.

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It felt like we were Indiana
Jones walking out into the that

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was honestly one of the coolest
things ever. Yeah, so good

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walking on, walking on the stage
with those shows the world that

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was heroic. Heroic. We the
coolest people.

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Orchestra is it is such a unique
thing, and it's just so

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powerful.

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We love combining it and like
for us, you know, Nick and I are

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the wolf brothers, obviously,
but we travel with a five piece

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band, and we wanted to
incorporate that as well. So

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there was some stuff that was
like, drums, electric harmonica,

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keys, full, rocking out, yeah.
And then we also stripped it

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back to just Nick and I
acoustic,

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and total shout out to the boys
in the band and the crew too. I

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feel like everyone rose to the
occasion. Yes, uh, we was

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really, I'm proud of us all.

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I was pretty stressed leading up
to those shows, and I was maybe

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the most stressed I've ever
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You over prepare, you know, and
then you just go, and then you

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just let it go and let the Muse
take over and and you guys

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filmed it. Did you film

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it? We recorded it, filmed a
bunch of it. I think actually,

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the Tasmanian symphony orchestra
are making like a documentary

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process, because they came down
to the farm with Nick and I and

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Simon, who runs a TSO and Tom
rhymes. Simon is like, imagine

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an orchestra guy. He's exactly
what an orchestra guy looks

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like. White hair. He looks like
Mozart. I love you. I love you,

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but that was honestly, and we're
going to do it again. And

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actually, I haven't even told
you, I got a text from Simon,

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literally, yesterday. He wants
to send some of the live

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recordings off to other
symphonies around Australia and

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do it again, rinse and

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repeat once you get the charts.
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the great. England, like, we
actually did a songwrite Two

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days ago, right next door to
where, like, the Nashville

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Symphony was. And I was like,
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to the university. I could
totally see that. See that

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happening. And you so you guys
have been in town for like, like

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a like, two weeks. You'll come
every couple years or so and

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just write right, right every
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I feel a bit like an empty show.

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For people that don't know,
songwriting is a such a craft,

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we're in the songwriting sort of
capital the world for this

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particular kind of music,
songwriting capital. And

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just, you know, you walk outside
of your house and you know, the

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mailman's a songwriter, your
barista is a songwriter.

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Everyone is a songwriter. And we
wrote one together about a week

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ago, and you came in with a like
a fully fleshed out title.

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Great. I were and it just

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happened, which I came up with
about 10 minutes before you

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walked in. Let's just pretend it
was something I worked on for

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years. But no, that's one of my
favorite ones we've got in this

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trip. What did

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you guys write with this week?
Was a lot a lot of writers,

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we wrote, obviously, with
yourself and Eric halby, you

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guys wrote that kind of night,
which has been a big part of our

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set. We wrote with a great
friend of ours, Jordan Brooker,

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we wrote with CJ solar, couple
of great ones with CJ. Yeah, a

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couple of great ones with CJ.
Another great mate of ours. Drew

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Kennedy, of course, with fellow
Aussie, Phil Barton, synonymous

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around town for being just an
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and energy vortex.

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Lots of like, lots of people
like, and I reckon we could have

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written another 20 times, but
the brain is only capable of,

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yeah, of so

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mentally and physically to do
the thing. A lot of calories are

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being burned, neurons are
firing, and it's

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just another another place. I
mean, I think you could write

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three songs a day, but they're
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be what's the biggest hang up in
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lyrics

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and everything? Second verse?

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Is it the second verse? I'll be
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here or, or, you know, is it to
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Definitely, the thing for me is
if, if the idea is great, you

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want to make the whole thing
great, yeah, right. And it's

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very easy just to go, like, cold
beer Friday night girl truck,

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you know, but you want to dig a
bit deeper than that and make

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sure it is great and is going to
stand the test of time, and is

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going to hang around and not
just be more. People are saying,

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you know, the the cool word of
the week is lit, so let's use

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that. That's, yeah, we don't
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that for guys that are in town,
like riding 567, times a week.

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I, I don't know how they're
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ideas, right when we planned
this event in five years, and we

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booked the flights like six,
seven months before we come

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here, and we had both had like
ideas in our phone for trying to

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come up with great song ideas.
Halfway through, we'd, we'd ran

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out of five years. We had six
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it's a thing, yeah, and to I
think just because everyone's a

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musician, everyone's at the top
of their game here, not that

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that's not the case at home,
yeah, I guess just it's so

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focused, everyone's like, trying
so hard to to get to that next

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level here all the time. Yeah,
it's competitiveness, but it's

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also lifting everyone up as
well. Yeah, absolutely. You

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know, like, on the ideas thing,
when we're at lunch after we

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wrote the other day, you you
said something, and I wrote it

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down as an idea, yeah, which
turned into, like, a great song.

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So let me ask you this, I've
always had an idea for a song,

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if it's, if it's mentioned, does
there's somebody able to, oh,

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that's a good idea, you know?
And then they run with it, and

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all of a sudden, some guy gets
I've always had, you know,

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maybe, maybe I shouldn't put it
out. I don't know what the heck.

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Be careful. Yet,

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You're half two years. I was
like a she's in her get two

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years. I always have a theory on
life that you go through

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different phases. Most of our
lives are half two years, the

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things we have to do and we're
working to our get to years.

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This is on record. Okay?

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We can write this via zoom

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tomorrow, but that is a great
idea. And if you're in a writing

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room, you just talk, and you
just, you probably spent half

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hour, hour just really talking
about it and going, Okay, what

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do we need to say? What exactly?
How do we really shape this

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idea? I'm

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just a concept guy. Yeah, no one
realization I've had this trip,

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particularly is, it is so much
luck, even though everyone's

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great at what they do, bringing
great skill set, but it's going

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to come down to like, Okay, how
are the three people in this

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room feeling on this day? What
have they listened to in their

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life, let alone? On the trip,
the drive to the right, or the

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previous couple of weeks. What's
kicking around in the in the

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cogs, in the mind that's gonna
come out? You know,

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does it come out of frustration?
Sometimes, sometimes, yeah, it's

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definitely some. That's another
thing is to the awkwardness in

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the room, propels the right
fort, because

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I'd be really good. In that
sense, I make things really

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awkward, like closer mates here,
like Jordan Brook is a really

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good mate of ours, and we wrote
a song, and it probably took us

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six hours, yeah, and it took
that long because we could relax

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laugh,

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or Tom was lying in the floor
like crying with laughter.

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That's a level of comfort you
don't typically get in

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a National Writing Room. If I've
just walked into a ride with

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someone I've just met, you're
not gonna do that. But sometimes

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that's also good, because then
you're like, sort of say, so

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focus on tasks. It's like, okay,
so what are we? What are we?

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Okay, what do you think of that?
Like? It's there is so many

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variables in it. And then I
think we've been talking a lot

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of the writers here, and they're
like, love this, you know, we'd

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actually love to pitch some of
this stuff. And you're like,

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okay, and then then it's like,
what mood are they in when they

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hear the song? But what if they
just listened to before that? So

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you just, you got to put it out
there. Hope for the best,

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because you're

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in a closed room, typically,
right? Yeah. So what if, like,

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you know, the receptionist walks
by and you guys are kind of like

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at a log jam, and she just
overhears and said, she just

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goes, bam, and she just gives
you a suggestion. She's

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like, it's gray area.

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There was a

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story about the friends in low
places, right, where there was

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one individual in the room that
just brought stood, like, one

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word,

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or they got a co write credit,
full credit, really? Yeah,

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that's Nashville, because, like,
and I know some of the pop world

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stuff when there's, like,
there's a beat maker, and

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there's like, a 13 writers on a
song, and everybody it looks at

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the number of words, and they
add them up, and they slice and

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dice by the number of words, and
then there's like, yeah, if

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there's three people in
Nashville, everyone's getting

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33.3% right? But in LA and New
York or Atlanta or whatever, and

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there's 13 writers there, it's
weird, yeah,

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different. Yeah, that is one
thing that's great. And, like,

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especially when we first started
coming over here, you know, we

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were going into rooms with like,
right? Is it a way better and

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more experienced at us. And
they'd be like, No, we'll just

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share it out. It's all like,
we'd maybe take an idea and

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they'd sit there and write the
song. But no, no, it's all good,

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like, so I love that attitude.
It's helping out. And then, you

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know, you got to put it

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out there. You guys are, you're
the type of artist that are in

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the deep end of the pool,
getting your hands dirty so

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involved with everything, you
know, doing the writing, because

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there are some artists that
just, they just take

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the songs, yeah, and that's,
that's also, that's also cool. I

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think for us to feel like saying
things that are going to connect

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with an audience and feel
authentic, I think they've got

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to come from us. You know,
ironically, the only two, a

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couple of songs we've ever
released that we haven't written

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were written by like, you you
guys, with you guys.

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So kind of not you got to me,
yeah. So

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I think I feel like they're both
songs like, I think you guys

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should re pitch that over here,
because they're just such good

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songs,

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thanks, man. So yeah, some songs
that we've got in the room and

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wrote together, you got to me
that kind of night when I was

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the one, no sad songs. Were they
all number ones? Yeah. Oh, my

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God, I helped Cory four number
ones. I gotta change my bio. You

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know, what's great is that you
guys are these things. What's

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what's really makes me proud is
that these are a staple of your

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live show. And let's face it, in
this musical economy, taking the

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music to the people, directly to
the people, is really a primary

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focus of where the music
business is. Like, hey, let's

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create this community. Let's
have this healing feeling. Let's

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have this special night
together. Please buy a hoodie,

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you know,

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well, I don't know about you
guys, but for me, covid just

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submitted for me, how important
live music is. Live music, I

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mean, I know we can be so
connected via the internet, via

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our phones, but going into a
room, watching a band or an

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artist and getting lost in that
moment is something we all need

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to do more of, and even for
myself, like, you know, the most

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happiest I've ever had, ever are
in my life is either when I'm

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with my kids and my family, or
literally, when I'm on stage and

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everyone's in sync and you just
know the band's cooking. I can

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look over at Nick he's rocking.
It's like, Ah, this, this, I

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love that. Like I have no
desire. I will tour until I die,

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like I want to be in a
wheelchair, like getting my wife

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and kids to pick me up at
hopefully 90 years old to I can

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keep playing. I just love it.
Live for it.

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It's got to be extra special
that you guys are connected by

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blood. You know, you look over
you're like, Oh, my God, it's my

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i. And we came from the same
place, literally. So am I right

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in saying that you guys are your
third generation musical family?

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Yes,

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well, actually fourth. So where
we come from in Tassie, we're

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fourth generation farmers,
raspberry farmers, raspberry and

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blue raspberry, strawberries,
cherries. That's

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good farming.

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So we're like on the foothills
of Mount Wellington in Tasmania,

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so it's a little bit colder and
stuff. But yeah, our great

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grandfather bought the farm in
1899 so what's the 125 curly.

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Yeah. Curly was his son. Okay,
so curly wolf was his son, and

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he had his own wolf family
orchestra, which is his wife,

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our Nan, and our dad and his
brother and everyone played in

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so they always had the farm, but
they always played music, always

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played music, and I think curly
and our dad especially, maybe

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wanted to do what we get to do.
I sort of feel like we're the

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beneficiary of, like, four
generations of people who've

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just worked their ass off. Yeah,
and we, like, get to actually do

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because dad would like say to us
all the time growing up, don't

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worry about the farm. Just don't
worry about it. Just do your

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music. Do what makes you happy.
So, like, the fact that we get

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to do that, I mean, like, we're
at work right now. We're at

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Nashville doing a podcast. You
know, after this we're going to

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go, like, to loveless cafe. This
is our job, it's pretty easy.

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Exactly your

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grandfather was in his half two
years.

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You're in your get to
generational thing at this

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point. It

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is so like, we feel very
fortunate to do it. But yeah, a

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lot, a lot of music. Dad was a
drum. That was a drama. Yeah,

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you helped

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him cart his drums around to the
casinos and the,

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yeah, yep, we used to take him
to sound check, and if we'd been

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good, we'd get to bash the
Rogers kid. He had that big 70s

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Rogers, you know, with like,
four Toms Nick's got it. Now,

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it's like, it's like, full
Ronnie, Ronnie tart Elvis type.

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Yeah,

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we've just built a shed, and I'm
so excited to get home and set

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up that kit sitting, you know,
in Tony's parents under the

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house, you know, gathering dust
for a couple years. And so we've

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got no really where to set this
up. And you're going to set them

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up. Set them up. I'm going to
get a little PA, you know, and

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just bash the hell out like,
obviously a guitarist, but love

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drumming, and that's and had
that that kid with that

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connection to dad,

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I feel like we're both
frustrated drummers at heart,

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because we both wanted to be
drummers, but

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totally a frustrated But not
because of my drumming. I'm just

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naturally frustrated. Give me a
symbol,

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dad. Dad was totally like, No,
you can't, can't buy drums.

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Can't Buy drums. I think because
he was a drummer and he wanted

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to be in a band with us. He's
like, You can't buy drums. You

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got to be that front

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dad was dad's very Tom is very
dad, yeah. Dad was a front man,

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but he was the drummer. Yeah,

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yeah, because you're always
running around. Tom's kind of

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the like, I'm the singer, but
Tom's the announcer, the I

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noticed that you

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do a lot of housekeeping. Let's
put our hands together, folks,

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yeah, let's get out those
lighters. Yeah, exactly, you

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know. So, but so, So Nick, you
started on guitar, and you and

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Tom you started on piano. So I
started

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on piano, and I did really enjoy
that, but Nick's a little bit

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older. And then there came a
point when Nick brought home

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Metallica's Master of Puppets.
Oh, gosh, and we're in the

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lounge room, and mum's literally
walking around going the dance.

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That was, like, that was a light
bulb. Like, what's that? You

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know? And like, we grew up
listening to some. Was

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it the album or the song that
got your master puppets, the

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actual song, you know, from,
from Stranger Things, yeah, four

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Stranger Things.

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And you got to think, this is,
didn't have YouTube. We're

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probably the last ones, right,
internet and all this stuff. So,

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like,

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you want to hear something, it
was given to you by, like, a

436
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,820
cooler, older kid, or, you know,
your cousin, yeah, who was like,

437
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,620
that's the men guy, you know.

438
00:24:07,979 --> 00:24:10,379
And you just didn't, you'd never
heard of it. For, like, I can

439
00:24:10,379 --> 00:24:14,279
remember our older cousin gave
us live after death. I made an

440
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:19,499
environment, and we were just
like, What? What is this? Is,

441
00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:19,739
who

442
00:24:19,740 --> 00:24:20,400
is Eddie?

443
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:25,100
Why are they galloping all the
time? Soon

444
00:24:25,099 --> 00:24:29,899
as Nick bought that home piano
was gone. I went and bought a

445
00:24:30,739 --> 00:24:32,779
baseball. I wanted to do that
with Nick.

446
00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:35,540
So did you ever get into any the
Bootsy pop, slap stuff

447
00:24:35,779 --> 00:24:39,679
a little bit during school? I
like that. But, um, that was,

448
00:24:39,739 --> 00:24:41,559
that's probably, that's not my
it's almost

449
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:43,839
good that you don't that bass
players don't know how to pop

450
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:46,059
and slap because unless you do
it really well, it's

451
00:24:46,059 --> 00:24:50,439
just very aggressive, very 100%
agree.

452
00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:54,820
We went down to Broadway the
other night. What other day?

453
00:24:54,820 --> 00:25:00,480
Actually? We're too old to go at
night, one o'clock. In the day,

454
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,160
and, yeah, we saw some
completely inappropriate slap

455
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320
moments, like

456
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,520
I will always love, you

457
00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:14,880
know, here's okay, you brought
up two, two very key songs.

458
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,240
Here's the funny thing, Master
of Puppets, when that song came

459
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,080
out the general public, what you
know you were metalhead, if you

460
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,600
were into that song, right? So
here it is. It got your

461
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,560
attention. And fast forward for,
you know, 30 some odd years.

462
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,920
Ouch. And it's one of the
biggest it was one of the most

463
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,680
downloaded songs because of
Stranger Things, because it was

464
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,580
like an homeless it

465
00:25:34,580 --> 00:25:37,100
was an overheard of it Will
Ferrell, when they abducted the

466
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:39,680
kids for their their rite of
passage into the fraternity,

467
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,580
they that's the that's the
abduction song. But, I

468
00:25:42,580 --> 00:25:44,800
mean, here's the other thing you
bring up, don't stop believing.

469
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,280
And I always ask this to our
guests that, come on. Do you

470
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,120
think that Neil Shawn and
Jonathan Cain were thinking we

471
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,080
are writing the hit of hits
right now? You know what? I

472
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,160
mean, surely they

473
00:25:57,159 --> 00:25:58,839
must have known they're on a
stunt. But

474
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,800
never know this is gonna pay for
our grand grandchildren. Yeah,

475
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,820
lifestyle, I

476
00:26:05,819 --> 00:26:08,219
don't know. Like, I don't know.
I mean, I'd like to think that

477
00:26:08,339 --> 00:26:12,899
they thought, Chief, we've,
we've got a good one, yeah? But

478
00:26:12,899 --> 00:26:14,999
I mean, like, sometimes we've
been in writing rooms and

479
00:26:14,999 --> 00:26:17,579
written songs and gone. That's
the best thing we've ever

480
00:26:17,579 --> 00:26:19,859
written, and they've gone away
three days and listened to it

481
00:26:19,859 --> 00:26:25,339
and gone. What do we actually,
worst thing with music, you

482
00:26:25,339 --> 00:26:29,359
know, I think once they go out
into the world, it's like they

483
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,059
can do anything, and then you
see, you're seeing now, older

484
00:26:32,059 --> 00:26:35,539
songs, as you said, like that,
reconnect through the internet

485
00:26:35,539 --> 00:26:36,979
and TV shows and stuff. So,

486
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,580
yeah, it just depends. I mean,
you look at Faith No More, you

487
00:26:42,580 --> 00:26:47,680
know, the song that I'm talking
about, we care a lot. Yeah, that

488
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,740
thing is used everywhere. Yeah?
Like, who would have thought

489
00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:54,100
those guys back in 1988 we were
like, oh yeah, this is gonna be,

490
00:26:54,220 --> 00:26:57,100
you know, they came out with the
real thing. And, you know, you

491
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:01,200
know, What's that song? Can you
feel it? See it, hear it today?

492
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,740
Yeah, that song that was a huge
hit for them, yeah? But here's

493
00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:08,220
like, before Mike Patton was the
singer of faith, no more, yeah,

494
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,120
we care a lot. Was in dirty
jobs. It was, it's used for

495
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,880
production stuff. I heard it
recently on something else. I'm

496
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,940
like this, these guys must be
making Bangkok. Yes, you know

497
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:18,120
what?

498
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,620
It was also a no no back in the
day for, you know, artistically,

499
00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:24,140
for an artist to license their
song right out of the gate. They

500
00:27:24,140 --> 00:27:28,280
would wait till, like, their get
two years, and they would be

501
00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:31,160
like, okay, screw it. Let's,
let's make some money. But now

502
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,620
it's like, Hey, if you can find
a home for your music, I mean,

503
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,460
anywhere

504
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,060
video games, yeah, look at
Dragonforce, right? Remember

505
00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:41,680
those guys? Yeah, fire in the
flames. That was the, that was

506
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,380
the supreme boss level music,
song you had to play in Guitar

507
00:27:47,380 --> 00:27:51,700
Hero, yeah? Because it was so
fast and that put them on the

508
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:51,940
map.

509
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,600
Jim your your Spotify playlist
is like all you're like a closet

510
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,800
dad, metalhead.

511
00:27:56,979 --> 00:28:00,039
I've always been through the
heavy stuff. Yeah, you know, I'm

512
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,639
eclectic. I'm all over the map.
I'll listen to Bad Religion.

513
00:28:02,639 --> 00:28:05,939
Then I'll go to, you know,
country stuff, and I'll listen

514
00:28:05,999 --> 00:28:08,939
Huey Lewis in the news. I've
been in a big Cook, big kick for

515
00:28:08,939 --> 00:28:10,799
that. All about Huey.

516
00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:13,920
Yeah, nothing wrong with us.
Nothing wrong with you. I always

517
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,000
fantastic. You know

518
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,480
what? What I was gonna ask you
guys, as you mentioned your, you

519
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,020
know, five guys, Band of
Brothers on the road. Yeah,

520
00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:24,800
you've always had great
drummers. I we were all the red

521
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,560
door the other night. Kip Allen
has played for you. Your current

522
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,320
drummer, David, fantastic. So it
was like a drum nerd moment.

523
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,120
Tell us about your current band,
yeah.

524
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:37,280
So Dave Roberto on drums. Dave's
fantastic. He's as invested in

525
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,020
the band as like we are, yeah.
He's got a studio back in

526
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:44,620
Melbourne. He's sending tracks
all over the world.

527
00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:46,600
Damn good mates, and all the new
stuff. He's

528
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,040
on a lot of our new stuff.
Ironically, we were in town and

529
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,220
we bumped into a bunch of
Canadian artists. And I'm like,

530
00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:57,940
hang on. I'm like, our drummers
play drums on your stuff, and

531
00:28:57,940 --> 00:29:04,140
he's here. So that's been really
cool. Our brother, Brody

532
00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:06,900
rainburg, who used to be an
official member of the group,

533
00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:13,020
Solly. So Brody. Brody stepped
back as an official member a

534
00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:16,500
couple albums ago. Like, I think
creatively, he wanted to sort of

535
00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:20,420
create his own voice, which is,
which is totally fine. And we

536
00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:22,580
were like, We don't want you to
leave. He's like, why? He's

537
00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,520
like, I he's like, I just want
to be able to do my music, he

538
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:32,420
said, but I really love to play
every gig. Like, yeah, kind of a

539
00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:36,980
weird setup. Yeah. It works. It
works. And we've got a new guy's

540
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:40,780
been with us since, actually,
ironically, he did two gigs with

541
00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:43,540
us before covid hit. So we
thought he was like the bad luck

542
00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:47,980
charm for Scott target. And he's
playing keys, he's playing harp.

543
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Great singer. So the band now, I
we think the band's the best

544
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,580
it's musically it's ever been.
It's just a powerhouse. Yeah,

545
00:29:57,639 --> 00:30:01,439
it's amazing when that happens.
Just. It's like, he can't, yeah,

546
00:30:01,439 --> 00:30:03,719
can't replace so I just knew
something was going on, because

547
00:30:03,719 --> 00:30:06,179
I was like, you know, so Brody
was the third official member,

548
00:30:06,179 --> 00:30:08,519
and then all the marketing is,
like, on the covers of those

549
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:10,439
would be like three, you guys.
It was like, oh, it's like a

550
00:30:10,439 --> 00:30:12,479
rascal flat, right now. It's
like, just two years

551
00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:14,340
we lost the good looking

552
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:19,440
so we have to write better
songs. No,

553
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:24,979
look, it was, it was very
natural seeing and, you know,

554
00:30:24,979 --> 00:30:27,559
like, our journey has been a big
journey of coming over here a

555
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:31,159
lot, yeah. And I think just
before covid, we signed a deal

556
00:30:31,159 --> 00:30:35,179
with broken bow, and which means
we were going to spend a lot

557
00:30:35,179 --> 00:30:39,379
more time here, yeah. And I
don't he was pretty keen to be

558
00:30:39,379 --> 00:30:44,619
more home in Australia. So yeah,
it was very like, it was a

559
00:30:44,619 --> 00:30:47,439
painless sort of thing. It was
no like, arguments or anything

560
00:30:47,439 --> 00:30:50,739
like it was just sort of
naturally what he wanted to do.

561
00:30:50,739 --> 00:30:51,099
Yeah, I guess

562
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,940
it's kind of hard as a fan to
kind of understand that, because

563
00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:57,880
typically, if there's not a guy
on the cover anymore, something

564
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,080
bad happened.

565
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,860
It didn't,

566
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:04,619
I think it's Tesla. You're still
playing all the shows. He's

567
00:31:04,619 --> 00:31:06,299
just, it's honestly, if

568
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:10,560
anything, like, our relationship
with broad is the best it's ever

569
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,220
been. Wow, because we're all
just doing what we want, and

570
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,320
there's no kind of and

571
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,980
it's really great, like we show
the boys, obviously, stuff we've

572
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:22,640
recorded, sometimes they po in
the recording. Sometimes they

573
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,220
don't. But recently we showed
them some stuff we writing and

574
00:31:25,340 --> 00:31:29,420
demoing up, you know, that they
hadn't been involved in. I was

575
00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:32,240
like, Hey, boys in the van, I
check this out, and it's really

576
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,540
cool. Brody's like, that's the
most wolf brothers stuff I've

577
00:31:35,540 --> 00:31:39,680
ever heard. So, yeah, it's like
a family actually. Ironically,

578
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,920
we were all texting each other
before we come here, and we're

579
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,340
like, It's been too long away
from each other. We've got to

580
00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:46,000
get back in

581
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,120
the van at the

582
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,820
end of every one of our tours.
We're just like, all right, that

583
00:31:51,820 --> 00:31:55,900
was great. Now it's time for,
you know, some, you know, peanut

584
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:59,020
brittle and my mom's cookies and
a little maybe it'll snow here,

585
00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:01,120
and we'll it's the holidays,
we'll take a break, and then

586
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,780
that second week of January
comes around. Like, well, we are

587
00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:06,600
ready, yeah, get back out with
each other,

588
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,500
or you would have like to your
entire, I'm assuming, most of

589
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,200
your entire life. You wouldn't
always packed. You wouldn't know

590
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,060
what to do when you're not doing
it right

591
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:17,999
now, it's been weird. It's been
weird going from 225, shows a

592
00:32:17,999 --> 00:32:20,719
year to about 50 shows a year. I
have more time, which means I

593
00:32:20,719 --> 00:32:23,479
have more responsibility as I
have a honey do list, I got to

594
00:32:23,479 --> 00:32:26,899
make sure that there's food in
the refrigerator, clean the

595
00:32:26,899 --> 00:32:29,899
house and just do normal things
when you're gone all the time,

596
00:32:29,899 --> 00:32:31,819
you just really don't have to
deal with that stuff. Do

597
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:35,360
you Do you still enjoy touring
as much I do, man, I

598
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,140
you know. I mean, I love being
in a recording studio with some

599
00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:41,980
some air conditioning and some
great coffee, and you're looking

600
00:32:41,980 --> 00:32:44,020
in the whites of some people's
eyes. And you know, they're all

601
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:46,840
going to change history. It's
going to affect but there's just

602
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,660
something about being a
troubadour and taking the music

603
00:32:49,660 --> 00:32:53,080
directly to the people. I love
it. I like the balance of the

604
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,680
two. Yeah, you know the idea of
somebody just having a studio

605
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,500
tan and just doing two sessions
a day, five days a week.

606
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,320
Yeah, it's actually ironic. So
you guys have all, like, played

607
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,580
together for like, 25 years,
like, yeah, forever, yeah. So

608
00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:13,440
you guys must be a pretty tight
it's a secret

609
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,100
language.

610
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:16,499
You wouldn't even need to say
what the next

611
00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:20,360
person, just like Aquaman. And
you'd like, Oh, I get it, yeah.

612
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:20,960
That's

613
00:33:20,959 --> 00:33:24,979
implying wise you guys would
know what you're about to do and

614
00:33:24,979 --> 00:33:27,559
you just get you'd already be
going with it. Telepathy. Yeah,

615
00:33:27,619 --> 00:33:30,199
I'm awesome. It really is. Now,
now we're just talking about

616
00:33:30,199 --> 00:33:34,159
being in the studio. We years
ago we wrote together. First, it

617
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:37,579
was a writing relationship set
up by your manager was and we

618
00:33:37,579 --> 00:33:39,979
became fast friends. And was
like, oh my god, this is

619
00:33:39,979 --> 00:33:41,739
amazing. And you guys were nice
enough

620
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,360
to just jump in and say, like,
rich went so above and beyond,

621
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,780
like, we didn't know Rich from
bar soap, and, you know, we were

622
00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:53,140
big fans, I think, you know,
particularly the early our Dean

623
00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:57,280
stuff like that. You guys did
that, that kind of we, that made

624
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,460
us kind of go, man. I think what
we do is going to work in

625
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:09,120
country, yeah, because, and you
just went above and beyond. And,

626
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,640
you know, Steve, our manager,
reached out to rich and said,

627
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,000
Oh, do you reckon you could hook
up the boys with a couple of

628
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,480
rights? He booked, like, three
weeks solo rights for us, like

629
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,480
he didn't have to do that.
Didn't have to do that in any

630
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,120
way, shape or form. But, man,
you're so thankful the songs

631
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,240
that were born out the
relationships amazing. You know?

632
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:30,560
Wow, I

633
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,080
appreciate it. And it's like I
don't feel like I did a thing,

634
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,780
but it's like these little
gestures you can make during

635
00:34:35,780 --> 00:34:37,700
your lifetime can affect a
trajectory of

636
00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:40,400
I mean, it's certainly affected
how,

637
00:34:40,460 --> 00:34:42,820
I mean, after, like, if I come
to Tasmania, I got a place to

638
00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:43,660
stay, you know,

639
00:34:44,799 --> 00:34:46,779
door is open. I

640
00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:52,060
always say that, yeah, funerals
are going to be either people

641
00:34:52,060 --> 00:34:54,760
are there for the true, they
want to honor the person and

642
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,340
really, you know, be there and
it's going to be kind of that

643
00:34:57,340 --> 00:35:00,600
thing, or funerals could be
networking events, right? I

644
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,480
think in Rich's case, it's going
to be, you know, the first

645
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,300
option. I mean, you've been so
good to people over the years.

646
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:09,000
So good man, you're gonna have
it. You're gonna have an

647
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,200
outpouring, yeah,

648
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,960
man, like it's hopefully it's
not soon,

649
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,180
many, many years, many, many

650
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:19,020
years, you have gone above and
beyond for us. And, like some of

651
00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:22,700
them, songs that were born in
them, riding trips, like a sad

652
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:23,300
song. Well, I

653
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:26,240
learned stuff. You guys helped
me learn how to craft a song.

654
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:30,140
And, you know, because I'm not a
Guitar Hero, I just, you know, I

655
00:35:30,140 --> 00:35:32,780
think it's, I think drum all
drummers could be natural

656
00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:35,300
writers, because we're, we're in
the best seat in the house

657
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,780
taking it all in, you know, the
whole, the whole vibe of an

658
00:35:38,780 --> 00:35:41,740
organization. And you guys were
nice enough to ask me to come

659
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,500
play drums on this crazy life.
And I went back, this is coming

660
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:47,560
up on, God, it's gonna be 10
years later. Wow. How could that

661
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,080
be? I was listening to it like,
man, these songs are great.

662
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:56,260
These arrangements, the mix is
nice. Luke Wooten, sometimes you

663
00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:59,380
can let something air out. You
give it some space, you revisit

664
00:35:59,380 --> 00:36:02,580
it, and you're like, This is
straight up, like, Steve rural

665
00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:07,320
Mellencamp, like, like, it's a
good record, guys, what? I

666
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,060
thought it's pretty good. I

667
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,660
definitely know what you mean
with letting it air out. And

668
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,680
that that record, particularly,
that's one for me, that in the

669
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,240
recent years I've gone back, we
did pretty good.

670
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:24,140
Job well done. I agree. And all
of those songs came from that

671
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:27,080
writing trip, which is a really
cool so that record is like a

672
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,340
little piece of time. It's not
like your first album

673
00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:34,940
we came over. We had nothing,
yeah, and I don't think anything

674
00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:37,820
we had ideas. I think we were
touring really hard before we

675
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:40,160
came over, and then it adorned
on us. Oh, you're going to

676
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:46,060
Nashville tomorrow to write and
then record. Oh God. But so no,

677
00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:50,080
that is, as you say, Tom a real
capturing that moment in that

678
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,340
chapter. And, yeah, obviously
very special. So glad to have

679
00:36:54,340 --> 00:36:55,600
you as a part of Oh man. And

680
00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:58,420
it was just like, Rich is in the
studio. We just love when Rich

681
00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:01,920
is like, proper. Oh, he's just
an energy do a table, but you

682
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,940
give it a bit more big feels
they need, like

683
00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:14,100
there's some big

684
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,200
thrown backwards, a song that's
really that's been in a set

685
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,660
since that day, and it will be
forever. And you played on that

686
00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:25,820
one and that, you know, I
remember you coming out after

687
00:37:25,820 --> 00:37:27,740
that one, just covered in sweat.
Yeah? I

688
00:37:27,740 --> 00:37:29,240
think you bought, like, 4t
shirts.

689
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,140
I bring a shirt for every song.
Yeah, you do. That's

690
00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:37,220
good. I mean, that is a massive
part of why that song's so cool.

691
00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:39,020
You can't program that.

692
00:37:39,380 --> 00:37:42,340
So wait a minute, you change
your shirts between song

693
00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:44,440
recordings. Yeah, you

694
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560
do that all the time. Sometimes,
if it's a nice Americana thing

695
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,440
or, you know, a sweet, you know,
troubadour girl, you know, and

696
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,000
we're it's brushes, probably
not, but they're always there in

697
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,220
case it gets heated. And they're
like, all right, rich, a little

698
00:37:57,220 --> 00:37:59,440
bit more. Tommy Lee, and then,
then you got to change the

699
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,300
shirt. Yeah,

700
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:03,000
you can't have a fan on you,
because it's going to be picked

701
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,840
up by the mics.

702
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Nick is so right though, you
can't, you know, I know we live

703
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,020
in a time where you can program
everything and basically not

704
00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:14,160
touch an instrument to record,
but he can't replicate feel.

705
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,120
Feels so great, and that's
because there was a guy in the

706
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,560
studio working in his absolute
all, yeah, literally,

707
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,880
out of it all you guys, man,
just, just bringing, bringing

708
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,560
that, you know, that passion,
and that's a big part of your

709
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,220
your sound and your lineage, is
that, that country rock vibes.

710
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,160
And then there are some
departures, you know, some

711
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,620
programming, Poppy type stuff,
yeah. And then you had this

712
00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:43,660
record, well, the first one you
got, it's on 2013 nothing but

713
00:38:43,660 --> 00:38:48,580
trouble. 2014 got a live record,
live at CMC rocks. 2015 this

714
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:53,620
crazy life we just talked about,
country hard. 2018 now this kids

715
00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:57,640
on cassette, 2021 and live in
the dream. 2023 is the latest

716
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,300
one kids on the set cassette is
that that was kind of a little

717
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:04,020
bit of a tip of a hat to, like,
New Wave you've got to and I

718
00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:04,320
think

719
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,840
that was, that was during covid.
We were putting that one

720
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,680
together, started before, and
then we didn't scrap a lot of

721
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,760
it. But we're like, no, don't I
think that's totally where we

722
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,120
want to

723
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:16,800
head. That was the lockdown,
yeah?

724
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,920
A lot of, like, I was doing a
lot of at home, piecing it

725
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,900
together with what we've done.
Johnny gasparic In Canada, we

726
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:30,740
would send stuff to him. He
would do stuff. You know, Matt

727
00:39:30,740 --> 00:39:34,280
fell at home. She's at home.
Lindsay rhymes over here. So

728
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,740
that was a real like through the
internet collab. I really liked

729
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,720
that album. Somehow it came
together. And I think it works

730
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:47,200
as an album, but, you know, it
very easily couldn't off because

731
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,620
it was so random. Yeah, you
know. But be proud of that one.

732
00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:54,580
But we've got to say, after
that, our kind of instinct and

733
00:39:54,580 --> 00:39:59,740
kind of reaction was like, Okay,
we did that. We want to get

734
00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:03,540
back. To what we do basics now
feel like we scratch that itch.

735
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:08,100
And so, you know, living the
dream, we've got a new producer,

736
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:11,700
Rob McCormack, who's a guy we've
worked with on different things

737
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:15,000
with Lee Kernighan over the
years, and always had such mad

738
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,020
respect for him, because he's
like, we say rod is God,

739
00:40:19,020 --> 00:40:23,960
basically, he's like, a banjo,
champion, mandolin,

740
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:30,140
phenomenon. Guitar, I'm not
saying this best musicians

741
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,000
anywhere on this encountered in
this play. So you

742
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:36,980
gotta go to the LA of us.

743
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,620
Rod, this is we've got the
golden mentioned, the golden

744
00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:45,460
guitar, golden guitar awards.
We've got nine of it, but

745
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:49,780
there's rod's got more. There's
this golden guitar performance

746
00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:52,780
from the mid 90s. You can find
it on YouTube and having a bit

747
00:40:52,780 --> 00:40:58,180
of a guitar off. And the players
are rod McCormick, Tommy Manuel,

748
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:02,460
a young Keith Urban, and I want
to say Albert, Albert Lee,

749
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:05,100
Albert Lee, and they're having
this guitar off. I mean, you're

750
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:08,880
talking about some of the
greatest players, and rod just

751
00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:13,320
wipes the floor, yeah? Like,
he's just phenomenal. So gone

752
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:16,380
back to him for living the
dream, and just said, We want to

753
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:20,220
make a country rock record. And
that was, like, a pleasure,

754
00:41:20,460 --> 00:41:20,880
yeah? A

755
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,100
pleasure for us, absolutely
delightful, you know. And but

756
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:29,420
even that, we were fly. Dave was
flying, shooting the drums in

757
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:32,780
from his studio in Melbourne.
Nice. And then what we've what

758
00:41:32,780 --> 00:41:35,720
we're doing now, we're in the
midst of recording another one

759
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:39,260
with Rod, but we're like, you
know what? Like, everyone's

760
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,980
programming drums or sending
them remotely. We play really

761
00:41:44,980 --> 00:41:49,600
well as a band. Why? Why are we
not like, in the studio

762
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,000
together, doing what we do best,

763
00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:54,220
I think covid and everything
kind of

764
00:41:55,420 --> 00:41:56,920
happening now you guys are

765
00:41:57,940 --> 00:42:01,080
done, like, done seven songs
like that, back in the room,

766
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,540
back and that's kind of, that's
the first time we've done that

767
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:07,200
since crazy life. Yeah, you
know, great, yeah, we

768
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,640
got the new one coming out.

769
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,920
Essentially, seems like such a
no brainer. Don't know why. I

770
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,580
don't know. Like, I

771
00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:17,760
think doing this, you creatively
go different ways. Like, if

772
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,260
you'd ask us at the time when we
were making, when we did country

773
00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:24,020
heart, we were really ready to
do that out try something. And

774
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:27,260
when we did kids on cassette, we
like, we really wanted to, like,

775
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200
try some retro wave pop things.
I know that sounds weird, but

776
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,320
that's creative, that we were
like, Yeah, I wanted that sounds

777
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:33,740
so it's

778
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:36,380
been a little blessing and a
curse that our musical tastes

779
00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:40,960
are so broad. Yeah, you know, I
think in some ways, maybe we

780
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,540
have, would have been more
successful if, if we were just

781
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:47,140
in the country, yeah, you know.
But then again, maybe not. I

782
00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:50,020
think that's kind of the beauty
as well, is that we've had all

783
00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:52,540
these other instruments,
influences and stuff we've been

784
00:42:52,540 --> 00:42:54,100
into and drawn on them and and,
I

785
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:56,680
mean, like, it's art, like, you
can't, I mean, we could,

786
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,140
probably could just make the,
you know, there's a lot of

787
00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:02,040
artists who make the same album,
like, over and over again. Like,

788
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,160
we don't really want to do that.
Like, I'm, I'm very proud of

789
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,740
everything we've done, and I can
sort of go back to those moments

790
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:10,440
in time to go when we made that
that was us being our most

791
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,900
authentic self. So, yeah, so
that's

792
00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:15,900
the the records are this
beautiful snapshot in time, this

793
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,840
body of work. It's, yeah, it's
this 10 year journey starting in

794
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,540
2013 and now 2023 and then you
get to cherry pick all the

795
00:43:23,540 --> 00:43:26,960
greatest from each record and
put them together for that Matt

796
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,280
live show. Yeah,

797
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,220
it's hard to get set lists
together now, yeah, that's just

798
00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:33,980
set it and forget it for the
year.

799
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:39,200
It's always the staples. But it
is nice to have those slots in

800
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,940
the set where you bring
something back, yeah, and you

801
00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:46,720
say, kind of, see, online, maybe
people will be asking for a tip,

802
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,540
you know, one song kind of have
a little bit of a cult moment

803
00:43:49,540 --> 00:43:53,320
where, like, there's a song red
dress, and a lot of people

804
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,180
online, like, you never play red
dress. So

805
00:43:55,180 --> 00:43:58,000
we're bringing that one back
lately. And that's like, off our

806
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,980
second album was never, never
single, you know, just so, yes,

807
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:02,280
it's

808
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,580
nice to do those things, and for
our benefit as well as, you

809
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:08,160
know, people want to hear those,
those kind of deeper cuts, which

810
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,280
is really nice. Yeah, there's, I
mean, there's nothing in the big

811
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,460
machine that, you know, sends
people to the deep cuts these

812
00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:17,460
days. Obviously, it's, you know,
the singles on the playlist the

813
00:44:17,460 --> 00:44:21,200
radio, whatever, like, that's,
it is nice that people take the

814
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480
time to listen to the album.

815
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:26,600
It is nice. You know, that song,
you guys have damn good mates.

816
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,660
It reminds me of Tracy Lawrence
as you find out who your friends

817
00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:33,920
are, right? But, and it's, it's
culturally, it's like, mates.

818
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,880
It's like, you know, that's a
specific thing to your country.

819
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Oh,

820
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,000
well, like that was one we did.
Never expected to like, do as

821
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,680
now it was done for Lee
Kernighan, 25th anniversary. And

822
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,400
for people to know who Lee is,
Lee is, like, the best way to

823
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,400
describe Lee Kun. He's like, the
Garth Brooks of Australia. So

824
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,740
he, we were his band for like,
yeah, he's an icon. We did,

825
00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:04,020
like. Up. We were his live band
and his opening act for like, a

826
00:45:04,020 --> 00:45:07,980
decade, amazing. So which was,
it was going to be one tour, the

827
00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:10,500
first it was going to be one
tour, and ended up being 10

828
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:12,960
years. We just had this
wonderful relationship. Nick's

829
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,360
written a bunch of stuff,
recorded a bunch of stuff with

830
00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:18,420
him, that 25th anniversary
album. We we all recorded that

831
00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:21,440
with him together in the studio.
So that was, that was

832
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,500
relationship we'd never because
we were fans. Like, Lee is,

833
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:27,080
like, the Australian country
king. You know, he's singing

834
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,740
like, songs, like, she's my ute
and Outback club and boys from

835
00:45:30,740 --> 00:45:34,400
the bush. And when you're like,
17 country kid in Tasmania,

836
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,420
like, yeah, you can absolutely
we used to go to his gigs at the

837
00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:41,800
casino and, like, get kicked out
because we'd be like, trying to

838
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,180
stage dive,

839
00:45:48,820 --> 00:45:52,180
been the most wonderful working
relationship, wonderful

840
00:45:52,180 --> 00:45:56,200
friendship. And it was actually
Lee's ideas, like, I want to do

841
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,440
this, damn good mates together.
So I think that really, really

842
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,300
sort of SUS our relationship,
friendship, and it's really

843
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:06,480
connected, like it's even we saw
him recently, and he's like,

844
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:09,660
Jesus, that one, just that one
just shot out of the gate. And

845
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,840
see that's in every set forever.
So where,

846
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,240
where was the 10 years? Was it
pre 2013

847
00:46:16,260 --> 00:46:18,240
so he No. So during all

848
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:23,480
of this, during he saw us on
Australia's Got Talent. So 2012

849
00:46:24,260 --> 00:46:26,840
we went on, Australia's Got
Talent, I don't want to say,

850
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,140
reluctantly, but, but going on
reality TV was probably not part

851
00:46:30,140 --> 00:46:31,760
of the plan. Yes, prior to

852
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,520
that, we were in Tasmania. We're
basically a cover band. Had one

853
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,500
original EP out with a few songs
that was country rock, you know,

854
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:50,680
very influenced by the early
stuff and but we could not get

855
00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:54,820
arrested outside of Tasmania,
like, just couldn't get a gig.

856
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,120
You know, no one. Why would they
want to get a band from Tasmania

857
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,680
when there's all other guys
doing this? Yeah, so we're

858
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,160
working with a manager at the
time. And she said, Well, maybe,

859
00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:09,000
you know, have a go at
Australia's Got Talent. We don't

860
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,900
want to do that. We want to make
it on our own. But what changed

861
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:13,320
your mind?

862
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,040
Well, she said something really
interesting. She said she's

863
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,420
like, I can't get you booked for
any gigs, like outside of

864
00:47:20,420 --> 00:47:23,420
Tassie, if you go on the TV
show, if you do a half good

865
00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:26,840
audition, she said, like, that's
national TV. It's national

866
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,440
exposure. There'll be a good
clip of you playing live that'll

867
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,020
exist on the internet forever.
She's, like, all of a sudden, I

868
00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:35,900
might be able to get, instead of
getting $1,000 a gig, I might be

869
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:38,780
able to get you five grand, and
I'll be able to get your

870
00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:41,320
festival spots. And we went, Oh,
okay.

871
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:42,220
What

872
00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:49,120
have we got to lose? And, you
know, the stars aligned a bit

873
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,240
because that year, they were
wanting to put a focus on

874
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:57,520
original music. And I think we
did, I think we did five or six

875
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,920
performances, and we only had to
do one cover and had to do one

876
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,460
cover song, which is pretty
amazing, really, yeah, they met.

877
00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:08,340
They sort of really wanted us to
do bigger riches, save a horse,

878
00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:12,420
right? Okay, so we did that, I
think, in our second and that

879
00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:16,020
worked in our favor. That was
huge at the time, and not

880
00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:19,800
thinking with Australia,
countries, not really mainstream

881
00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:24,200
as it is here. So, you know, if
country gets a look in on

882
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,620
mainstream TV, there'll always
be a bit of a tone of, like,

883
00:48:27,860 --> 00:48:31,340
well, let's wheel out the hay
bales. You know, it's not taken

884
00:48:31,340 --> 00:48:32,000
seriously.

885
00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:35,900
Let's get the boots scooting.
Yeah, you know. But there's

886
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:39,440
always a huge fan base of
country, yes, like, massive, you

887
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,600
know. But for some reason weird
thing doesn't it's a bit of the

888
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,900
poor cousin on mainstream, you
know, so, but when we played

889
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:51,580
save a horse, you know,
everyone's like, Oh yeah, okay,

890
00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:52,360
yeah, yeah.

891
00:48:52,540 --> 00:48:53,380
It's a rock song.

892
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,940
We're in this, yeah. Like,
people,

893
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,540
people would come to gigs and
like, Oh, you didn't write that.

894
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,340
Oh, wow. I was like, no, no, no.
No. And ironically, when we did

895
00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:05,460
the performance, there's the
breakdown section, and it's like

896
00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:08,700
having ourselves a big and rich
time, yeah. And I said, I want

897
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:12,000
to say wolf brothers time. And
the producers like, No, you

898
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,420
can't. They said, unless you get
written permission, you can't

899
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:18,960
say that. So we, like, made it
our mission. And this lady,

900
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,320
Sharon, who was like, helping us
and managing us. At the time,

901
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,260
she got in touch with big and
Rich's team said, wow, boys are

902
00:49:24,260 --> 00:49:27,620
going, Australia's Got Talent.
They're going to do this. They

903
00:49:27,620 --> 00:49:30,620
love the song. It'll be good for
the song. All they want to do is

904
00:49:30,620 --> 00:49:33,560
say, having ourselves a wolf
brothers time, got the letter

905
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:39,560
back, went straight the
executive producers.

906
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,840
The other thing we did, too,
just, I don't know how this

907
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:49,000
evolved, but the ending we used
to do for save a horse was we

908
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,060
borrowed a little riff from
Pantera cowboys from hell.

909
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,880
Yeah. Literally did that and
then so that kind of had its own

910
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,600
thing. Because, you know, all
the metal guys sitting at home,

911
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:13,320
like, what was this guy actually
messaged me recently. Who

912
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,880
remembered it?

913
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Were you guys Pantera fans?
Like, did you catch him on the

914
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,340
latest tour with the, I guess
the tribute cover act that

915
00:50:22,340 --> 00:50:22,520
they've

916
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,060
done, well, personally, I
thought it was done very

917
00:50:26,060 --> 00:50:27,920
tastefully. So yeah, yeah, they

918
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,760
picked good guys,

919
00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:32,780
great guys. And, you know, there
was a huge kind of tribute to

920
00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:36,500
diamond and Vinnie, weird story
of that. So they were a big band

921
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:41,080
for me growing up, and I never
got to see him in the original

922
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,280
lineup. So, of course, I went
along, so I'm in Brisbane. Loved

923
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,520
it. They had a few technical
issues. The PA kind of died

924
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,020
midway through the first song,
and, yeah, which was pretty

925
00:50:53,020 --> 00:50:56,080
unfortunate, but then they got
it back, and it was pretty good.

926
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,140
I

927
00:50:56,140 --> 00:51:00,840
mean, you got Benante and drums
playing that game, yeah, wild on

928
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,660
guitar, speaking of which, you
know, because they did tour with

929
00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:06,780
Metallica. That was the first
leg of that tour. Yeah, in

930
00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:10,980
Metallica keeps coming up on
this podcast. You were

931
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:14,400
mentioning covers before you
know what I was I thinking. It

932
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,440
hit me the other day in the
shower. I said, you know, if

933
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,660
anybody wanted this really kind
of, you know, hit it big and

934
00:51:20,660 --> 00:51:25,700
become real mainstream, kind of
like, What? What? Luke combs.

935
00:51:25,940 --> 00:51:29,180
Luke combs. He did the Tracy
Chapman song. Yeah, what? If

936
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,720
nothing else matters was redone.
Yeah, never thought about,

937
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,100
I actually have had that

938
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:38,060
thought through. Yeah, another
sign from the universe, although

939
00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:43,720
I feel like the thing with
Metallica. Like, pretty hard to

940
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:47,200
do. If you're not Metallica,
like, you're gonna get a lot of,

941
00:51:47,260 --> 00:51:51,280
a lot of hate, you know, like,
yeah, as a Metallica fan, like,

942
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,400
if, pretty much, if I heard
anyone else, I'd be like that,

943
00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:59,320
yeah. So I think yeah, just to
get back on that, on the Pantera

944
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,580
thing. So went to see him the
next morning I'm flying home,

945
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,780
and, you know, I was feeling I
was on a real high, because this

946
00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:10,260
is a band that was a pivotal
part of my guitar playing, oh

947
00:52:10,260 --> 00:52:13,800
yeah, learning and, you know,
and I'm obviously still ripping

948
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,820
off dime bag licks and stuff
like that. So standing in line

949
00:52:17,820 --> 00:52:21,020
aboard the plane, I looked down
at my feet, and there's two

950
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:27,200
guitar picks. And look a bit
closer, and it's they've got

951
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,460
dimes face and vinny's face on
these guitar picks. Right? Real.

952
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,920
I'm not looking around thinking
like, is someone playing a joke

953
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,100
on me or something, you know,
and just all you know, business

954
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:43,780
guys boarding the plane, so I
pick him up, I'm still looking

955
00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:48,880
around. Like, anyway, like, I
put it on Facebook that night,

956
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,940
or whatever, and like, all the
Pantera guys are like, wow.

957
00:52:52,780 --> 00:52:55,600
Like, because I thought maybe
you can just buy them. Like,

958
00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:58,480
Surely no one would be so
careless if, like, they were the

959
00:52:58,540 --> 00:53:03,060
pigs from stage, their pants
must have, must have pigs from

960
00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:03,540
stage.

961
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:06,900
Did you guys ever think about
putting stuff like that into

962
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,540
your set when you're playing
like, you know, just sometimes a

963
00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:12,420
little out of left field,
Pantera cover. What

964
00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:15,780
we do? We do a couple of little
cover things in the show. We

965
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:21,320
have this thing we call the
ausmid So another big part of

966
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,260
our sort of sound, and where we
come from, is Australian pub

967
00:53:24,260 --> 00:53:28,880
rock, right? So Ax listeners
will probably know is, like, in

968
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,180
excess. Yeah, there's a couple
of bands you probably know,

969
00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:35,660
Midnight Oil too. But other
bands in Australia, like the

970
00:53:35,660 --> 00:53:38,480
angels, they didn't make it as
big over here, Cold Chisel,

971
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,840
incredible, incredible band
culture, uh, Cold Chisel. Cold

972
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,920
Chisel. Yeah, sorry, it's my
Australian accent. Great. There

973
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,220
was such a wonderful Australian
pub scene in the 80s, but this

974
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,600
just the radiator, so so much
the vinyl, so much good music

975
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,900
came out of Yeah. That is such a
big part of Australian culture

976
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:01,320
scene. Like, if the if you're
doing cover gigs and pub shows.

977
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,260
You're playing a lot of that
stuff, really. So we they're all

978
00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:08,340
anthemic stuff. So we do, like,
it's like, about eight minutes

979
00:54:08,340 --> 00:54:13,320
long, and we've put, like, six,
seven of them together in one

980
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,160
sort of eight minute song. And
it is, like, the most fun to

981
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,280
play live. Like, if you don't
feel proud to be Australian

982
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,360
after that. I don't know what's
going on. So, so yeah, we do a

983
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,180
little bits and pieces like
that. We jam bits and pieces at

984
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:29,300
sound check. But, I mean, we got
six albums, yeah, and

985
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:31,700
predominantly, like,
predominantly, people want to

986
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:32,000
hear us,

987
00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:34,880
but it's cool to kind of like,
you make that connection, and

988
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,060
it's so much more because a lot
of metal guys, a lot of hard

989
00:54:38,060 --> 00:54:41,620
rock guys like me that grew up
with that music now, country is

990
00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:42,760
that pill? Yeah?

991
00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:46,420
I think we, the way we do it is
not like we're not, we're not

992
00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:50,320
playing like a Pantera roof, but
right, you know, we'll,

993
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:51,940
we'll a little, we're

994
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,380
doing a solo that'll be a
complete, yeah, Dimebag ripoff,

995
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,360
yeah?

996
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:00,120
So that's fun. Well. Me

997
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,160
ask you this, because I heard
you guys were, you know, before

998
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,560
you're gonna perform a song
here, hopefully, when the guy

999
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,580
finishes weed whacking,

1000
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,280
you got

1001
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,600
to make sure the lawn looks
good. The you guys played a

1002
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,440
little bit before we went live,
so to speak. And I'm like, Oh my

1003
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,820
gosh, you can't, you can't tell
you from Australia, you know,

1004
00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:26,060
you have you got, you got the
rubber band thing going on?

1005
00:55:26,060 --> 00:55:30,140
That's, can you speak like that?
No, like, if you had to, can you

1006
00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:31,700
sound American? Speak

1007
00:55:31,700 --> 00:55:34,640
American? Can you speak
American? No, really, great

1008
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,060
question.

1009
00:55:35,540 --> 00:55:38,720
I can, kind of like, do it. I
have a character that I go like,

1010
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:41,320
you know, do you guys want me
sodas.

1011
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,940
Because here's the thing, it's
like, I've tried to do like

1012
00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:53,440
British. I do a lot of voiceover
for British is awful for me, and

1013
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,980
so is I mean, my Australian is
not very good. I sound like

1014
00:55:56,980 --> 00:55:57,700
freaking ring. But

1015
00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:01,320
those Australian actors that
call the water, they come over

1016
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,520
and you cannot

1017
00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:07,140
have so much American TV. And
you know, so we've heard Chris

1018
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:07,620
Hemsworth.

1019
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,720
Chris Hemsworth in Red Dawn,
yeah, you can tell Yeah. Mike,

1020
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:14,760
okay, you're trying too hard.
Yeah, sure.

1021
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:19,440
The one I used to do was a lady
when we played one of the shows

1022
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,980
over here, we did a cover of
dust on the bottle. She said,

1023
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:32,000
can you say my name? Oh, yeah,
what's your name? Darlene. Oh,

1024
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,880
good on you. Darlene, oh, my
God,

1025
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,740
when you guys played dust on the
bottom, when

1026
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:43,300
you guys play Creole Williams,

1027
00:56:46,780 --> 00:56:51,340
play Creole circuit

1028
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,100
over here. Yeah, and we toured
all through the Midwest doing a

1029
00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:00,720
bunch of like we did some really
cool gigs. I'm for Dustin Lynch.

1030
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,320
Young band got to play, I think
it's country concert in Ohio,

1031
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,900
which is like 40,000 people.
Yeah, got to do some really cool

1032
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:09,360
festivals. And then we'd do one
of those, and then the next

1033
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,320
night, we'd go and play next to
a corn dog stand, yeah, in the

1034
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,640
middle of nowhere. So, like we
we saw a lot of this country, in

1035
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,720
particular the Midwest,

1036
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,080
and loved it absolutely

1037
00:57:21,260 --> 00:57:25,040
so much by bus. But when you're
in a back home and you're

1038
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,700
touring in Australia, it's
impossible. Yeah,

1039
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,120
bus touring is not really a
thing. There's been guys that

1040
00:57:32,180 --> 00:57:36,080
have tried to do it, but I think
maybe the fuel costs, the road

1041
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,180
infrastructure, it just doesn't
end up well.

1042
00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:40,840
If you break down in the middle
of nowhere, you're attacked by a

1043
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,860
legion of muscular kangaroos.
That's a risk.

1044
00:57:44,860 --> 00:57:46,480
Yeah, basketball

1045
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,220
sized spiders. The

1046
00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:52,480
Go is basically we fly into a
major city, rent a van, maybe a

1047
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,780
trailer, a couple of vans, and
go from there, do a circuit,

1048
00:57:55,780 --> 00:57:57,700
come back out, fly out of that.
Now,

1049
00:57:57,700 --> 00:58:01,260
can you trust David as a driver,
or is he the typical drummer

1050
00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:03,960
that do not let the drum dress
drive? That's

1051
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:04,620
pretty good. Why

1052
00:58:04,620 --> 00:58:06,720
do you not let the drummer?
Well,

1053
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,040
just we're dreamers, and we just
start daydreaming and easily,

1054
00:58:12,180 --> 00:58:15,780
and that's the I would have to
drive. I'm a driver control

1055
00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:15,960
thing.

1056
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,060
Brody's very solid driver.
Brody, you

1057
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,540
feel safe with Brod at the
wheel? Yeah,

1058
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,320
I'm good for like, half an hour.
Then I'm like, are we gonna open

1059
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:24,920
the show?

1060
00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:31,760
Go ask her this emails and that
then someone else has to drive.

1061
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,440
So, funny enough, he has to do a
lot of emails when we pack up at

1062
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,940
the end of the night. Do

1063
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:40,720
you guys detect like, when they
hit the rumble strips of the

1064
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:46,300
road and, like, yes, hit it
like, three times in the last

1065
00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:48,100
five minutes. You gotta, we
gotta change

1066
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,680
our roads are just not like what
it is here. Like you can get on

1067
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,920
the interstate here and drive to
another city and like, it's just

1068
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,620
not like that in Australia, and
especially playing in country.

1069
00:58:56,620 --> 00:58:59,860
Like we go really regional.
We'll go to a town that's like,

1070
00:59:00,940 --> 00:59:04,980
four people are there, you know,
and we go play the races or the

1071
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:09,180
fair or the show or whatever it
is. So we're very lucky in that

1072
00:59:09,180 --> 00:59:12,900
regard, that we get to go to
these places, and often that

1073
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:16,800
those gigs for those places are
the event of the year, yeah. So,

1074
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,100
like, we get to see some really
cool, really cool things. But,

1075
00:59:20,220 --> 00:59:24,260
you might be driving on a road
that's like two lanes, no lions,

1076
00:59:24,260 --> 00:59:29,660
doing that for 200 days. So we
have a because Tazzy is an

1077
00:59:29,660 --> 00:59:32,480
island, so we have all our gear.
And Tazzy, we also have a bunch

1078
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,380
of gear in Sydney, so we can,
you know, if we fly to Sydney,

1079
00:59:36,380 --> 00:59:39,680
we can put stuff in vans and
trucks and take it out from

1080
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,300
there. So, yes, it's what's just
what we know like, it's just how

1081
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:44,020
we know how to

1082
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,960
what are some and I know Jim
would probably like to hear

1083
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,620
this, but straight from the
horse's mouth, what are some

1084
00:59:50,620 --> 00:59:55,180
common misconceptions about
Australian life and culture?

1085
00:59:55,420 --> 00:59:59,740
I think that the all the animals
you know going to kill you or

1086
00:59:59,740 --> 01:00:03,720
their. Three every turn. You
know, it's pretty dangerous

1087
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:04,620
animals, obviously,

1088
01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:05,220
koala bears,

1089
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,600
you guys have equally as
dangerous animals, for sure. You

1090
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,380
know, the brown

1091
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:13,980
recluse. You have to watch out
for that in your Airbnb, yeah,

1092
01:00:13,980 --> 01:00:16,980
like the stuff, like this
spiders and there's snakes and

1093
01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:20,120
stuff. But it's not like you're
not going down to, like the

1094
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,580
local Kroger there, you know,
like, you

1095
01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:24,320
gotta be out. It's not Crocodile
Dundee.

1096
01:00:25,220 --> 01:00:27,560
And there is, there is areas
where there's crocodiles and

1097
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,160
stuff. Like, we recently went up
to Darwin, which is up the top

1098
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,620
of top end of Australia, and
there's not gonna

1099
01:00:33,620 --> 01:00:34,580
go swim in there. You

1100
01:00:34,580 --> 01:00:37,400
don't go on the beach. Those are
great weights, great whites

1101
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,500
across crocodiles will take you
on the beach. But you know, you

1102
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:44,020
know that there's signs, it's
like, like, lethal

1103
01:00:44,020 --> 01:00:45,400
jellyfish. That's the thing is,

1104
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:47,860
maybe there is a bit of

1105
01:00:49,420 --> 01:00:52,720
where we are in Tassie, you can
go the beaches, and it's like,

1106
01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:55,480
you're not going to have that.
And if there is, I mean, you

1107
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,940
touch woods, occasional shark.

1108
01:00:57,940 --> 01:01:00,720
The other thing was, to some
people said to me the other

1109
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,900
night, so like in covid, like
the government was shooting

1110
01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:09,840
people, weren't they? Yeah, that
didn't happen. Look, they locked

1111
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,300
down like Melbourne, and
particularly in Victoria was, I

1112
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:15,240
think it was the most locked
down place in the world. And,

1113
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:19,320
you know, completely over the
top and sucked. But they weren't

1114
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,580
killing people. They weren't
shooting people

1115
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,520
with the lockdown. People could
go grocery shopping, or they

1116
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,960
had, there

1117
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,080
was a bunch of different rules.
Like, you could go grocery

1118
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,380
shopping or to get food and
think, and then a lot of the

1119
01:01:33,380 --> 01:01:36,140
rules contradicted, you know,
like we could talk about, talk

1120
01:01:36,140 --> 01:01:39,020
about for hours, which are not
that over the moon. I hate

1121
01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:42,040
talking about it, so that wasn't
great. And the other

1122
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,920
misconception, coming from
Tazzy, coming from Tazzy, people

1123
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,160
always, like, ask us about the
Tasmanian devil, yeah, like the

1124
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:48,700
Tasmanian

1125
01:01:50,020 --> 01:01:53,680
it's a real thing. So, like, a
it's kind

1126
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,260
of like a big cat. It's probably
like a

1127
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,600
honey badger. Yeah, that'd be

1128
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,200
a big one. It'll be a big one.
Yeah, they have a, like, a

1129
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:08,340
terrifying roar, yeah. So
they're basically a scavenger

1130
01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:12,240
animal, you know. But I guess if
you heard, if you were, like an

1131
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,800
early settler, and you were, you
know, set up a camp in the

1132
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,440
wilderness, and you're sitting
there and you heard this thing

1133
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:21,740
roaring, you'd be absolutely Oh,

1134
01:02:21,740 --> 01:02:25,460
my God, terrifying. Yeah. So,
like, we got a friend,

1135
01:02:25,940 --> 01:02:31,820
they don't like spin in a
tornado. Slight embellishment,

1136
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:37,520
hunting kangaroos really common
at home. Like it would be deer

1137
01:02:37,580 --> 01:02:40,280
here, and I've got a friend who
hunts kangaroo. Discover

1138
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,240
population control. Yeah,
there's like 40, 50 million

1139
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,140
kangaroos. 40, 40 million.
There's like four kangaroos to

1140
01:02:47,140 --> 01:02:51,100
every one person everywhere. So
they're constantly

1141
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:53,620
flexing. Yeah, they're just
jacked.

1142
01:02:54,940 --> 01:02:58,120
So where we where we live? Main
one who's gonna farm up the

1143
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,440
road, he hunts a lot of
kangaroo. And you know, the bits

1144
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,440
he doesn't use, he will just
throw out to and leave for the

1145
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,440
devils. And, like he said, you
can listen to the middle of

1146
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,160
night and they come

1147
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:14,220
in and it's like, it's like,
terrifying, absolutely,

1148
01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:16,740
I've seen

1149
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,400
nothing. They'll eat every bit
you don't see a lot of them. I

1150
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,360
reckon I've only probably seen
on our farm. I've seen two, seen

1151
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,660
two in our farm, in our life. So
what's

1152
01:03:29,660 --> 01:03:31,580
the misperceptions you heard
about America

1153
01:03:33,140 --> 01:03:39,380
before? Something pretty, pretty
spot on this perception. Like,

1154
01:03:39,380 --> 01:03:42,280
we've spent a lot of time in
this country. So, like, we I

1155
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,580
love it over here. I love like,
the people have been so good. I

1156
01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:46,240
mean, geez,

1157
01:03:46,540 --> 01:03:48,160
have you been to New York? I

1158
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,940
mean, haven't been to New York?
Only been to LA for like, a day.

1159
01:03:51,940 --> 01:03:53,200
You may change your mind

1160
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,680
more into the vibe of over here,
down here, than LA, yes, yeah,

1161
01:03:59,740 --> 01:04:01,560
for us, but going

1162
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,200
through the Midwest, like,
playing all those places, like,

1163
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,820
all of those people were like,
salt of the earth, the earth.

1164
01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:11,700
Like, if we could have said, can
we have your car so we can drive

1165
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:13,800
up, they'd be like, yeah, oh,
yeah. Did

1166
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,200
you ever get to Miami or South
Florida? No, no.

1167
01:04:16,380 --> 01:04:18,060
I never did that. Lots, a lot to

1168
01:04:18,060 --> 01:04:19,440
explore still. Yeah.

1169
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,280
I mean, we sort of based here.
We wrote and record music, and

1170
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,580
then we jump in our Chevy
Trailblazer with our trailer and

1171
01:04:25,580 --> 01:04:29,840
head off to Indiana, Ohio,
Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah, Pudge

1172
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,880
cargo, you weren't that fond of
Chicago. Wasn't

1173
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,600
a massive fan of Chicago? No, it
wasn't mine. Pretty good. Wasn't

1174
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,560
my scene. The big cities are not
found a very quiet, frightening

1175
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,460
misconception I had, coming from
Tasmania, it can be quite cold,

1176
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,880
like, well, I thought, yeah,
I'll be right. When we're in

1177
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,060
Chicago, we had like, half a day
off, and I thought, well, I'm

1178
01:04:52,060 --> 01:04:54,280
probably, I don't know if I'm
going to get back here, so I'm I

1179
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,040
put a jacket on, I said I'm
going to go for a little walk.

1180
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:01,500
And I got outside the hotel, and
I was like, when. I could not

1181
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:03,060
breathe. The

1182
01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:07,200
coldest I've been to this day
was in Wisconsin. Oh gosh,

1183
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,700
walking from the car to the
hotel room a Tundra. Oh, it was

1184
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:15,300
like, it would have died if it
had, like, the middle of

1185
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:15,720
winters.

1186
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,220
I was like, minus

1187
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,780
you guys get the seasons in
Australia, or is this mostly

1188
01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:21,500
just warm, yeah,

1189
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,260
I guess I was gonna say they're
less extreme, but that's that's

1190
01:05:24,260 --> 01:05:27,740
not true, because, I mean, we
have cyclones, we have droughts,

1191
01:05:27,740 --> 01:05:30,200
bushfires and everything like
that, but that's just different.

1192
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,500
Like, I mean, around here, you
know, as we were coming in

1193
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:36,440
before, like, there's so much
more timber, or lumber, as you

1194
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,360
guys call it, yeah, houses,
because the trees grow, like,

1195
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,340
everything so fast, like,
everything's so green. It's

1196
01:05:42,340 --> 01:05:45,400
Miller summer and, like, it's
green as, like, middle of

1197
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,280
summer, typically, in a lot of
Australian places, is dry,

1198
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,760
dusty, yeah, you know. But,
like, harsh, but where

1199
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:56,200
we are in Tassie in winter, it's
more probably, like New Zealand,

1200
01:05:56,260 --> 01:06:01,060
ish, yeah, we might get one snow
at our farm during temperature,

1201
01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:03,840
mild, temperate, mild, you know.
But then you go right up north,

1202
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,720
and it's really quite tropical,
yeah, you know, they'll have a

1203
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,720
wet season and a dry season, you
know. And there's, like, six

1204
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,700
months where it's just going to
be, like, it's

1205
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:14,580
so funny to think about, like,
you know, the earth is a globe,

1206
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,640
you know, flat.

1207
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:19,440
It's not okay. You guys want

1208
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:21,660
to talk about that,

1209
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:28,700
not to talk about

1210
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,580
that? It's just just so
exciting, man, you came. You

1211
01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:35,060
made dreams come true. You're
popular. Where else have you

1212
01:06:35,060 --> 01:06:38,300
guys done any like, Have you hit
Europe or South Africa?

1213
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,300
So like I spoke to you a little
bit about our journey, like our

1214
01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:46,240
journey, you know, becoming this
is the mecca for what we do come

1215
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,240
from music. So we spent many
years coming here, living here,

1216
01:06:49,660 --> 01:06:52,720
doing all that stuff. Just
before covid, we signed with

1217
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,220
broken bow. We had the meetings
with like John and Lynette, and

1218
01:06:57,220 --> 01:07:00,460
they're like, you know, we put
up a million dollars for radio

1219
01:07:00,460 --> 01:07:03,720
single. We believe in you guys.
We believe in you as writers.

1220
01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:06,900
Terrifying like it was
terrifying. Oh my god. They're

1221
01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:10,020
like, you know, we want to do
this, you know. And they are

1222
01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:12,660
really global company, so
they're like, We want you to

1223
01:07:12,660 --> 01:07:15,960
sign with BMG Australia. We're
going to do this. We're going to

1224
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,860
bring you over on tours. We're
going to do the same in

1225
01:07:19,860 --> 01:07:22,520
Australia, bring people over. So
we're thinking like, oh my god,

1226
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,620
we're gonna be out the road with
you. Oh my god, we're gonna be

1227
01:07:24,620 --> 01:07:27,440
with our dean. And would have
been amazing. And we signed that

1228
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,180
a month before covid. So we were
about to sign an international

1229
01:07:32,180 --> 01:07:36,740
deal. We're about to go to
Canada and do like 35 shows. We

1230
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,320
admit the labels and stuff
there. We're about to set up

1231
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,120
sort of a base there. Have a
base here, have a base at home,

1232
01:07:43,660 --> 01:07:46,720
and start sort of taking over
the world, and then covid hit,

1233
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:52,000
and it just all, it just, it
just didn't like, it just didn't

1234
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,060
happen. And, I mean, that's so
it's no one's fault. Like, I saw

1235
01:07:55,060 --> 01:07:57,940
John lobar the other night, and
he was, I come up, give me a

1236
01:07:57,940 --> 01:08:01,260
cut. Always. I love you boys.
He's still family to us, and he

1237
01:08:01,260 --> 01:08:03,960
said, just is what it is like.
You

1238
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,520
have to, kind of like, rely on
the fact that everything happens

1239
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,080
for a reason, definitely,

1240
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,820
you know. And it actually hasn't
been. We haven't been upset

1241
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,540
about it at all, like, some
fantastic things happen during

1242
01:08:18,540 --> 01:08:22,220
those years. We couldn't go
anywhere with covid. Tom's now

1243
01:08:22,220 --> 01:08:23,900
got two amazing kids. Yeah,

1244
01:08:24,020 --> 01:08:25,160
that's what you were up to.

1245
01:08:25,220 --> 01:08:27,980
Yeah, start your touring
musicians. Stay at home for a

1246
01:08:27,980 --> 01:08:29,360
little while. You have two kids.
So

1247
01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:36,200
I bought my own farm in the
north of Tassie, and then kind

1248
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,500
of like, well, I don't think we
want to really come back over

1249
01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:42,880
here and start from zero again.
And yeah, and do it, we really

1250
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,660
want to solidify in Australia
and be one of those bands that's

1251
01:08:46,660 --> 01:08:49,780
always going to be part of the
landscape, if you want to, if

1252
01:08:49,780 --> 01:08:52,480
you're going to go see live
music this year, we want, we

1253
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:54,640
were going to be one of the
guys, Yeah, beautiful.

1254
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,460
And actually, it's been a little
bit, it's almost been a little

1255
01:08:57,460 --> 01:08:59,980
bit liberating in that regard,
because it's sort of like, well,

1256
01:08:59,980 --> 01:09:03,420
you know, we're we're very proud
Australians. Yes, love our

1257
01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:06,540
country. Love the people in our
country. It's like, well, let's

1258
01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:11,460
just be here, and let's write
songs that are really for

1259
01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:13,800
Australian people. Like, if
we've got a new single coming

1260
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:18,120
out in July, and it's way more
Australian than maybe some of

1261
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,480
this stuff we've done before.
Some people that pub rock

1262
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:21,440
influence in it so

1263
01:09:21,799 --> 01:09:24,739
well. And the other good thing
is, I think the Australian

1264
01:09:24,739 --> 01:09:30,439
country radio landscape isn't as
everything's not chasing exactly

1265
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,099
what's the hot thing right now,
there's room for a bunch of

1266
01:09:34,099 --> 01:09:38,299
different that's great sub sub
genres, whatever everyone's

1267
01:09:38,299 --> 01:09:41,619
version of country is. That's
all on the on the chart, and all

1268
01:09:41,619 --> 01:09:44,499
on the station, you know, so and
accepted by the fans. Really,

1269
01:09:44,499 --> 01:09:44,619
yeah,

1270
01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:46,060
really accepted by the fan.
There's

1271
01:09:46,060 --> 01:09:49,240
nothing wrong with owning the
owning. Love

1272
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,120
that about it. I love that about
it. And actually, it spun me out

1273
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,880
a little bit to be back over
here, like, as Tom said, the

1274
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,480
thing we've we're about to put
out, is very us, but it sounds

1275
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:01,800
nothing like what's the hot. 20
on American nothing.

1276
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,680
It's interesting. Yeah,
interesting because I think

1277
01:10:04,740 --> 01:10:07,620
there's, there's definitely a
shift in culture happening,

1278
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,980
yeah, certainly right now. And
I'll give you guys an edge if

1279
01:10:10,980 --> 01:10:13,680
you want to be the next hot
thing or start writing the next

1280
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,940
hot trend of country songs, pay
attention to what they wrote in

1281
01:10:17,940 --> 01:10:21,680
the 40s and 50s. Tonality wise,
lyric wise,

1282
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:25,040
because Jim is a theory. Yes,
Angel

1283
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,840
pendulum books right over there.
Yeah. Well,

1284
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,080
okay, all right, explain it
really quick. Okay,

1285
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,100
so basically, every 80 or every
40 years, we go through cultural

1286
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:38,240
shifts. Right now, we just
finished a zenith of what we

1287
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,740
call a we where we're kind of
like a every time the pendulum

1288
01:10:41,740 --> 01:10:44,380
comes to a zenith, it's when we
take it a good thing too far.

1289
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,880
Right now we just went through
the darkest part of the 80 year

1290
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,800
swing. So we're on the downswing
from a we going back to a

1291
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,320
tipping point, which is going to
in the next 40 years, is going

1292
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,480
to culminate to a me. Last time
it happened was 1983 and the

1293
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:04,380
tipping point into the last me
was started in 1963 a lot of

1294
01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:07,980
people think of the 60s, right?
Yes. Think 60s were really 1963

1295
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,000
to 1969 Yeah, right. So if you
think about all the things that

1296
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,580
happen, a lot of people, there's
different cultural attitudes

1297
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,360
that go along with these
cultural swings. So very

1298
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,140
captivating. So

1299
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,060
what's the versus me? So I would
think that me would be bad.

1300
01:11:23,060 --> 01:11:24,920
No, no, no, none of them are
good or bad.

1301
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:30,200
It's typically like we are, you
know, it's about us, and me is

1302
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,880
like, I don't care what it's,

1303
01:11:32,780 --> 01:11:35,600
I'm gonna pull it up here. So,
man,

1304
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:36,380
didn't expect

1305
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,900
it's really intriguing. So
Upswing we values where we the

1306
01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:46,780
upswing from Oh, three to 23 is
what we just went through,

1307
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,320
responsibility, humility,
thoughtfulness, conformity,

1308
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:55,120
authenticity, which has been a
big word, yep, and transparency.

1309
01:11:55,180 --> 01:11:58,300
So just be real with me. Let's
all collectively come together.

1310
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,380
So when we take something too
far, which is what we've just

1311
01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:04,440
been through. Yes, we literally
lived through 1943 all over

1312
01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:07,320
again in the last year. So now
we're coming back the down the

1313
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,160
other side. That's true. All
those values become duty,

1314
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,540
obligation, sacrifice,
regimentation, self,

1315
01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:18,120
righteousness and
oppressiveness.

1316
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:21,840
You have the world through that.

1317
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:23,180
It's crazy, man.

1318
01:12:23,180 --> 01:12:25,400
It's really, really, no, I'm
gonna be, I'm gonna be gone

1319
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,740
search this and listen to this
pendulum.

1320
01:12:27,740 --> 01:12:31,820
I'll show you the book, the
author on the podcast years ago,

1321
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:32,180
years,

1322
01:12:32,180 --> 01:12:35,060
years. That was one of the Zooms
that we did. Yeah, Michael drew

1323
01:12:35,780 --> 01:12:42,140
Friday is gonna love this. Yep,

1324
01:12:42,260 --> 01:12:45,580
I love that. But, I mean, that's
right now, is when the voices in

1325
01:12:45,580 --> 01:12:48,100
the wilderness start coming out.
So the people that are going to

1326
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:49,420
start pulling that pendulum,

1327
01:12:49,420 --> 01:12:51,340
well, like we will do this,
we're Tasmanians.

1328
01:12:51,460 --> 01:12:54,880
Yeah. You know, if you start
writing songs that resonate with

1329
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,500
how people are going to start
thinking,

1330
01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:59,080
Well, I'll tell you what we have
done, and it's been lovely, and

1331
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,620
it's been liberating. This trip
is we've just sort of gone

1332
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,700
because we're not coming over
here to be here and try and get

1333
01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:08,340
a radio hit here. We're just
like, we're just going to write

1334
01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:11,820
things we just really enjoy and
like even the song we wrote with

1335
01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:16,200
you, one of the lyrics is from
fnq to all the way down south.

1336
01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:18,240
Now what we're saying,
Australians understand we're

1337
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,200
saying fnq is far north
Queensland, from Far North

1338
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,320
Queensland all the way down to
south to Tassie So, and when

1339
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,660
we've thrown those out in the
writing rooms, guys like, you're

1340
01:13:26,660 --> 01:13:29,240
like, is that? Like, no, no,
that's that's

1341
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,020
us, that's us.

1342
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:35,360
It feels great. Like, I feel
Yeah, really, really, the

1343
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:35,780
pressure's

1344
01:13:35,780 --> 01:13:38,300
off. So, and you've proven
yourself, and you could just

1345
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:41,180
exist in your own skin. And
there's something very

1346
01:13:41,180 --> 01:13:46,660
comfortable and incredible about
being the big fish where you

1347
01:13:46,660 --> 01:13:47,500
are. Yeah,

1348
01:13:47,620 --> 01:13:50,740
look, it's not even so much
that, like I it's few things got

1349
01:13:50,740 --> 01:13:54,880
cemented for me this trip. You
know, just artists who are just

1350
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,320
fully themselves, exploding,
like saw Cody Johnson at CMA

1351
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:04,920
fest, and that guy is him.
There's no, you know, he started

1352
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,380
off with an intro tape with all
these Texas songs. I thought,

1353
01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:11,040
Man, this is this guy's cool
came out. He had like, a knife

1354
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,360
on his belt. This guy doesn't
care what anyone thinks. And

1355
01:14:15,420 --> 01:14:19,200
that was the loudest people were
in that stadium all night, like

1356
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,340
they just, I think people are
seeing that. I think that's one

1357
01:14:22,340 --> 01:14:24,620
of the positives with the
internet and the way we are

1358
01:14:24,620 --> 01:14:27,200
connected now. I think people
see it. I think people are

1359
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,840
seeing a lot more. I think we're
seeing a lot more crap, and that

1360
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,020
we probably shouldn't right, but
when something like that, stuff

1361
01:14:33,020 --> 01:14:35,720
like that, can cut through,
because I don't know, like, he

1362
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,240
probably wouldn't have been able
to cut through in the industry,

1363
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,320
in the way the industry and the
record industry is here 10 years

1364
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,060
ready, or still a

1365
01:14:43,060 --> 01:14:47,320
main driver of everything? I'm
so unplugged from. It's been 20

1366
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,260
seems to be, I mean, it seems to
be, but I've, I've noticed this

1367
01:14:50,260 --> 01:14:53,200
trip. I don't think a lot of the
writers have drawn as much for

1368
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,440
that, because you're seeing
right explode. And how else can

1369
01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:59,440
I get exposure? Yeah, well, if
something blows up on tick tock

1370
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:01,560
and you. YouTube in Tiktok. Look
at

1371
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,520
what's his name, the guy who
blew up, gosh, old man brain

1372
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,860
here the men from up north. He
was Oliver,

1373
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,680
yeah, Oliver, Anthony, right?
Well, that's a great example.

1374
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,160
There's a guy like, singing a
song that he 100% believes,

1375
01:15:17,220 --> 01:15:18,240
right? That's pendulum.

1376
01:15:18,540 --> 01:15:21,680
That's a boy. I'm saying he's a
voice in the world,

1377
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,460
yeah? Like, I mean, like, Who
would have ever thought that? So

1378
01:15:25,460 --> 01:15:29,480
it's like, for me, I'm just
going back to everything we do

1379
01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:32,660
now. It's like, I'm gonna really
rely on my gut instincts, yeah?

1380
01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:36,140
And if it doesn't feel right
there, obviously, we're a group,

1381
01:15:36,140 --> 01:15:39,320
so, you know. But I'm always
gonna say, hey, just, you know,

1382
01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:43,540
gut check. This doesn't feel
great. Let's talk about it,

1383
01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:46,480
because we've definitely done
things like in the past, where

1384
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:50,320
labels have gone, this is, this
is the smack. This is, this is

1385
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,200
going to take us to the world.
And we've kind of gone, no,

1386
01:15:53,980 --> 01:15:57,220
okay, okay, we'll go with it.
But yeah, it's not, it's not

1387
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:58,000
having

1388
01:15:58,660 --> 01:16:01,860
Cody Johnson. Mean, yeah, I mean
he's just doing he wants to do.

1389
01:16:01,860 --> 01:16:04,980
He's he is authentic. He's a
super nice guy. I mean, some,

1390
01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:07,200
some stylists probably got a
hold of him. He was like, Hey,

1391
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,360
you're gonna put you in these
black skinny jeans? He's like,

1392
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,240
No, I got the wranglers with the
crease down the middle and giant

1393
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,560
belt buckle. Yeah, he's just
doing his thing, uh,

1394
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,720
loving it. Yes, I

1395
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,340
would be a publicist. Worst
nightmare. I just want to wear,

1396
01:16:22,340 --> 01:16:25,520
you know, cargo pants, yeah,
with a hammer holder. Well,

1397
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,100
you know, and that's, that's
definitely a thing. That's the

1398
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,140
thing I've felt in this
industry, like I'm a bigger guy,

1399
01:16:30,140 --> 01:16:32,900
and I've had people to tell me
to lose weight and do this, and

1400
01:16:33,380 --> 01:16:36,440
sees my language, I don't

1401
01:16:36,440 --> 01:16:37,760
give a fuck, right?

1402
01:16:39,140 --> 01:16:41,080
And if you don't like me, fuck
off.

1403
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,440
Okay, but here's the thing, is
that you're you also have the

1404
01:16:44,980 --> 01:16:49,060
you loom large. So you're a very
tall person. You have a presence

1405
01:16:49,060 --> 01:16:51,220
when you walk in a room. And I
love the fact that you're

1406
01:16:51,220 --> 01:16:51,760
bringing back

1407
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,280
the hair he jumbles as a must
the muscle of the bag,

1408
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,140
but you're bringing back the
hairy chest, buddy for all us

1409
01:16:59,140 --> 01:16:59,860
guys, I

1410
01:16:59,860 --> 01:17:02,460
just, I never I just can't. You
can't shave your

1411
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:03,960
chest. You

1412
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,680
don't care you guys what I

1413
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,980
am gonna hide it or try and
change it. Or do you even

1414
01:17:10,980 --> 01:17:11,340
wearing

1415
01:17:11,340 --> 01:17:13,320
the necklace that draws the
attention to

1416
01:17:14,460 --> 01:17:18,660
it? I wear this, I got this bit
made, but our pop was in the

1417
01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:22,160
Navy. Yeah, really good, man. I
don't really have tatters, so

1418
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,740
I've got that mine. You
definitely

1419
01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:27,260
have the look, though, when you
walk into a room that people go,

1420
01:17:27,260 --> 01:17:29,120
okay, who's that guy?

1421
01:17:29,420 --> 01:17:32,300
I know that. Thank you. Lot
worse said

1422
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:37,100
about you walked in and I was
waiting on rich before you got

1423
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:38,300
here, and it's like, Hey, I

1424
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,340
feel short. All of a sudden. He
goes, he goes, he goes. You

1425
01:17:42,340 --> 01:17:44,380
know, when you walk into a room
as short as you are, people

1426
01:17:44,380 --> 01:17:46,780
still probably think of the hair
or something like, Who is that

1427
01:17:46,780 --> 01:17:49,900
guy that I never said that you
were short, but, but, no, I

1428
01:17:49,900 --> 01:17:53,080
added that but, but he was like,
you really got to stop driving

1429
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,520
that Honda. So this guy
convinces me to buy an expensive

1430
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,680
car. It was nice, and now I'm
ruined, because once you take an

1431
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,800
expensive car, it is like when
the door closes, German cars,

1432
01:18:06,660 --> 01:18:07,380
like, Oh, my

1433
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,360
engineering, incredible. You
hear the German culture in that.

1434
01:18:12,420 --> 01:18:16,380
It's like nine. I thought

1435
01:18:17,580 --> 01:18:19,260
you're going to stay in there.
Now,

1436
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,600
yesterday was from Munich. It
was like, great. It was like, it

1437
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,880
was really, really fun. So I got
to hear all about, you know, the

1438
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,640
Munich music scene, the German
music scene, everything. Listen,

1439
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,160
I'm gonna lighten the mood just
a second. Remember when we were

1440
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,220
at Calypso cafe and those two
people came in. Eric talked to

1441
01:18:34,220 --> 01:18:38,360
one, and there was this lady,
and I kept and it's so unlike

1442
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,620
me, I wanted to be like, Oh, how
are you how are you doing? I

1443
01:18:41,620 --> 01:18:49,120
couldn't remember who she was.
It was my old eye doctor. You

1444
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,960
see somebody out of context? I
never have seen her anywhere

1445
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,480
other than wearing a white lab
coat. Yeah, staring into my

1446
01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:56,260
pupils. That's

1447
01:18:56,260 --> 01:19:00,340
totally a thing you can you got
to have the surroundings on.

1448
01:19:00,340 --> 01:19:03,060
Yeah? Hey, we're gonna play

1449
01:19:03,180 --> 01:19:08,640
a song, but hey, really quickly,
the Fast Five, favorite the fast

1450
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,640
it's never fast. But favorite
five, favorite color,

1451
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,580
I'm orange. Wow, okay, yeah,

1452
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:15,720
that's weird.

1453
01:19:16,980 --> 01:19:20,600
We got just black. Man, black.
TSH, yeah, okay, I

1454
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,000
would never wear orange. But
favorite drink,

1455
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:23,660
favorite drink

1456
01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:28,520
at home, we have a beer called
cascade Largo, which we call

1457
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,620
cascode blue. And that's,
that's, is

1458
01:19:30,620 --> 01:19:32,660
a strong high octane, or is it
normal? It's

1459
01:19:32,660 --> 01:19:35,240
a little bit higher than normal,
but it's, you need to bring it

1460
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,940
back here. We'll have you.
Government won't let us. Oh,

1461
01:19:37,940 --> 01:19:38,240
really, I

1462
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,260
tried to bring some over some
friends. So talk to you really,

1463
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,600
government. Let's sort that out.
Interesting. Well, I

1464
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,900
live in the north, so I have to
say Bogues red, which is their

1465
01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:51,460
rival. Oh, okay, so that's a
rivalry that goes back to the

1466
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,180
two colonial sediments of
Tasmania. So wow, yeah, one day

1467
01:19:55,180 --> 01:19:57,760
there's Civil War, and I'll
leave the army to the north and

1468
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,920
I'll be in the South. I love.

1469
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,160
Okay, so what about, like, your
favorite type of food or

1470
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,600
favorite dish? Oh,

1471
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:12,360
man, we have indulged over here,
over here, like we love Cracker

1472
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,920
Barrel. Oh, really, I heard
they're closing. No, well, I'm

1473
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,540
gonna buy the franchise,
whatever. But we just love, we

1474
01:20:20,540 --> 01:20:23,120
love the sauce. So the
breakfast. Love the breakfast.

1475
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,200
Love the biscuits. Love they

1476
01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:27,920
call this shit on the shingle,
which is the biscuits and gravy.

1477
01:20:27,980 --> 01:20:30,740
Yeah, yeah, it's a US meal.
Great

1478
01:20:30,740 --> 01:20:31,940
thing. I've

1479
01:20:31,940 --> 01:20:35,480
really enjoyed the Mexican over
here, sure, so we don't really

1480
01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:37,700
have at that in Australia,

1481
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,560
but what's the spot do you guys
go to here?

1482
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:45,520
This time with Tony, and I've
enjoyed agaves that's been

1483
01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:49,120
that's been delicious.

1484
01:20:49,900 --> 01:20:52,660
Briley, okay,

1485
01:20:53,980 --> 01:20:57,340
right by the dealership,
Mercedes, dealership, right.

1486
01:20:57,340 --> 01:21:02,220
Yeah, tonight. But all I know is
when I walked out on voluntary,

1487
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:06,240
the found myself saying that was
the best food I've had. Very

1488
01:21:06,540 --> 01:21:06,780
nice

1489
01:21:07,860 --> 01:21:11,220
agave. So we're gonna go there.
We'll go there and write bread.

1490
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,820
And now this is people find it
very, very difficult, but, and

1491
01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:17,280
this could be based on just
because you love the artist, you

1492
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,620
love the production, or you love
the melody, the the story. What

1493
01:21:21,620 --> 01:21:26,660
is a song that this thing comes
on in the you're in your Jeep in

1494
01:21:26,660 --> 01:21:29,240
the outback, and you just crank
that thing up, man,

1495
01:21:30,740 --> 01:21:36,320
I know mine. I'm a Beatles
fanatic, and I think abbroids

1496
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,600
the greatest album ever made, in
particular, golden slumbers

1497
01:21:40,660 --> 01:21:45,760
carry that weight. The end that
is, in my opinion, some of the

1498
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,060
greatest pieces piece of music
ever made. I want that play to

1499
01:21:49,060 --> 01:21:51,580
my funeral, just putting that
out there, hopefully too many,

1500
01:21:51,580 --> 01:21:55,240
many years away. Yes, why? You
know why the golden slumbers

1501
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,760
starts once there was a way to
get back home, would once there

1502
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:02,820
was a way to get back home. It's
just gives me, I just, I don't

1503
01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:05,520
know. I just connect with it on
a well, that's on another.

1504
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,780
That's the power of music. It
is.

1505
01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:07,860
It's power music, amazing.

1506
01:22:07,860 --> 01:22:11,700
I gotta think about my funeral
song. What's it gonna be? It

1507
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:15,180
changes weekly for me. Yeah. So
you know this at this moment,

1508
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,000
I'm just, I've got a bit of a
thing with about Bon Jovi in

1509
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,680
these arms, some reason, just
right, they make so many

1510
01:22:21,740 --> 01:22:24,860
production choices that didn't
need to be there, but God, I'm

1511
01:22:24,860 --> 01:22:26,000
glad they're there's

1512
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,940
like a B side, right? I think it
was

1513
01:22:29,660 --> 01:22:32,960
great if hits guys, hits kind of
thing. And they did a couple

1514
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:33,740
extra now, did

1515
01:22:33,740 --> 01:22:35,780
you guys go to Premiere to see
the band play?

1516
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,460
You guys had the the opportunity
to

1517
01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:46,000
meet as a quick because Nick
hates it. But we've recently

1518
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,120
signed back to ABC music in
Australia, and our label head

1519
01:22:49,180 --> 01:22:53,620
NAT is was over here for CMA
fest. She's just a gem. She's

1520
01:22:53,620 --> 01:22:56,500
our biggest supporter. She's so
great. And we bumped into her

1521
01:22:56,500 --> 01:22:58,480
and we're having a drink, and
she said, I'm going to a

1522
01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:01,560
listening party at Ocean away
tomorrow to listen to the new

1523
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,080
Bon Jovi app. Now we're all out
at the time, and if you haven't

1524
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,540
picked up on this podcast, I'm
probably a bit more of an

1525
01:23:06,540 --> 01:23:09,960
extrovert than Nick. So I was a
little bit drunk, and was like,

1526
01:23:10,620 --> 01:23:13,200
I'll come volunteering. And
she's like, Well, no, it's like,

1527
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:20,040
record heads. And she goes,
Well, I'll ask. I'll ask. You

1528
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,580
know, she texted the guy was
organized. He said, Yeah, you

1529
01:23:22,580 --> 01:23:27,320
can bring a plus one. And that
was me. And these, look, these

1530
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,380
guys got to go see Shenandoah.
So they were, I knew that was

1531
01:23:30,380 --> 01:23:33,800
that's Nick's vibe anyway. Got
to listen the whole album band

1532
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,460
came out. Got to ask him a
question, which was really cool,

1533
01:23:37,460 --> 01:23:40,900
because ironically, before this
trip, I'd watch the documentary

1534
01:23:40,900 --> 01:23:45,220
about Bon Jovi, and I thought,
my God, these guys, obviously

1535
01:23:45,220 --> 01:23:49,420
they're the best, but I thought
they'd write the best third

1536
01:23:49,420 --> 01:23:53,560
person bangers. So like
examples, living on a prayer.

1537
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,440
Tommy used to work on the docs,
and Gina works at diner all day.

1538
01:23:56,860 --> 01:23:59,800
Someday I'll be Saturday night.
You know, Hey, my name is Jim.

1539
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,520
Where did I go wrong? My life's
a bargain basement. All the good

1540
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,760
shits gone these great
characters, but yet the songs

1541
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,300
are like anthems that are sung
in stadiums. And I was like,

1542
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:12,600
how? So I thought, I said, Look,
I'm in a room with Bon Jovi.

1543
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,440
This is one of my notes. I'm an
artist. I get this is what I

1544
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:19,080
wanted to do on the songwriting
trip. Now I get to ask Bon Jovi

1545
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,600
about it. What did he said he
was really cool. First off, he

1546
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,120
sort of said, well, some of it
is experience. He said, I just

1547
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,700
know what's going to work with
the crowd, what they're going to

1548
01:24:28,700 --> 01:24:32,120
sing. He then said, we don't
always get that right. He I

1549
01:24:32,420 --> 01:24:35,120
can't remember the name of the
song, but he referred to a song

1550
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,340
off the last couple of albums.
He goes, I thought when we

1551
01:24:37,340 --> 01:24:39,560
recorded that, he said, I
thought that was going to be the

1552
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,960
next, it's my life. I thought it
was going to be the next, living

1553
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,160
on a prayer and he said, the
first time we got on stage and

1554
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:49,840
started playing it, it was like,
the crowd were like, he's like,

1555
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,480
God clap. He's like, I got it.
You gotta get it wrong. And then

1556
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:56,620
at that point, Tico Torres
stepped up. I mean, I fucking

1557
01:24:56,620 --> 01:25:02,160
love the song. And then anyway,
he just. Said, look, it's, it

1558
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,880
has to be come from the heart.
It has to be real. It has to be

1559
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:11,040
true. He said, those characters
exactly don't have to be exactly

1560
01:25:11,940 --> 01:25:16,140
real people, but they those
people exist. You know, Tommy

1561
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,780
might, I don't think the docs,
but there's definitely a guy

1562
01:25:20,780 --> 01:25:23,240
working on the docks, yeah, who
heard that and went shit, that's

1563
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:23,660
me, but

1564
01:25:23,660 --> 01:25:26,060
it could be, you know, Tom, you
know, not Tommy and Gina, but it

1565
01:25:26,060 --> 01:25:29,600
could be Jeff and Jennifer.
Exactly, they're relating to

1566
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,180
that song as well. I know what
it's like to work, you know,

1567
01:25:32,180 --> 01:25:34,280
third shift, and he's out there
busting his butt as an

1568
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,140
electrician. Exactly, it was, it
was

1569
01:25:36,140 --> 01:25:38,900
great, and it was something I
wanted to do this trip. And I

1570
01:25:38,900 --> 01:25:41,200
think we got one, we got one,
we've got one, and it was

1571
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,540
something want to do on this
trip, because when you think of

1572
01:25:43,540 --> 01:25:46,840
country, it's often like, about
the girl, or it's about my home

1573
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:51,820
or my my my feelings this Friday
night, it's all very first

1574
01:25:51,820 --> 01:25:55,840
person, yeah, there's not much.
Third Person, interesting. Maybe

1575
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,120
that's the shift. Yeah,

1576
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,320
I met Gina. She works on the
issue. She works on the inner

1577
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,020
workings of the JA Bon Jovi
organization. I said, now, is

1578
01:26:07,020 --> 01:26:09,540
that you? And she goes, I'll
never tell, but

1579
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,120
it could have been, yeah, it
could have been. So that was a

1580
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,200
very, very special moment. And I
think that genuinely enjoyed the

1581
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,260
question. When I went up and got
a photo, shook John's hand, he

1582
01:26:19,260 --> 01:26:21,680
was like, yeah, good good luck,
mate. I was like, Oh, that's

1583
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,180
sweet. Thanks. John Bonjour,
seems

1584
01:26:23,180 --> 01:26:26,420
like a nice guy and a very, very
brave documentary, to be sure.

1585
01:26:26,420 --> 01:26:27,500
Oh gosh, the

1586
01:26:27,500 --> 01:26:29,900
vulnerability of I

1587
01:26:29,900 --> 01:26:33,800
feel so sorry for him, because
watching that documentary, it

1588
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,020
submitted to me. I thought,
these are some of the best. This

1589
01:26:36,020 --> 01:26:38,420
is one of the best bands, yeah,
without a doubt, best

1590
01:26:38,420 --> 01:26:41,440
songwriters and reinventing
themselves, yeah, and the fact

1591
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:44,200
that those guys all came from
New Jersey, and they're like,

1592
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,960
ticos, I think one of the best
drummers in the world, like

1593
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:48,400
talking about power, he

1594
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,400
kind of freaked me out, because
we actually saw them back in

1595
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,520
Vegas, where they lived there,
yeah. And if you get in front of

1596
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,100
my wife, we mentioned Jon, Bon
Jovi, she'll point to her arm,

1597
01:26:57,100 --> 01:27:01,080
because that's where he sweat on
her. They did like a side stage

1598
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,240
thing. They would they would
platoon people up, and you've

1599
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,240
got to watch the band rock out.
And it was kind of a cool thing.

1600
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:11,100
You know, my radio abilities got
me up there, but whatever. And

1601
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:13,620
when I was up there, I was
standing behind my wife, and,

1602
01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:17,400
you know, Richie came over, John
came over, but Tico was just

1603
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,980
staring like holes through the
back. I don't

1604
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,920
like I'm I'm going

1605
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,800
he may have been jonesing for a
cigar. Every shot in that

1606
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,100
documentary, you got cigar or a
cigarette.

1607
01:27:34,220 --> 01:27:36,380
I know I thought the same. Oh,
my God,

1608
01:27:36,380 --> 01:27:39,440
he's walking through the airport
smoking a cigar. Crazy. Last

1609
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:44,500
question. Favorite film. It
comes on, you're gonna put your

1610
01:27:44,500 --> 01:27:46,360
life on hold. I am finishing
watching this.

1611
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:49,120
I'd say,

1612
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,680
I would say Goodfellas, a

1613
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:57,160
great

1614
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,540
movie. I'm gonna give you a
very, very deep Australian cut.

1615
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:05,280
And it's a movie called Sunday,
too far away, and it's like a

1616
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:11,340
70s it's a movie about a sheep
shearer. So there's some

1617
01:28:11,340 --> 01:28:12,060
homework for you.

1618
01:28:12,180 --> 01:28:17,100
Wow. So this is just culturally.
This is like your jaws close

1619
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:18,540
encounters. It's like popular

1620
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,220
now it's more. Now just, just
watch it. It's

1621
01:28:22,220 --> 01:28:26,780
a bit of a cult, yeah thing, but
there's some great early

1622
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,740
Australia, yeah, it's good. It's
nice, early, strong characters

1623
01:28:30,740 --> 01:28:31,820
in it that you just be like,

1624
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,000
You guys have watched it be
like, I've never

1625
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,300
seen me like, What? Yeah, it's
just another planet. Yeah, it's

1626
01:28:38,300 --> 01:28:38,480
good.

1627
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,140
Okay, we got, we have to
remember that. And we're gonna

1628
01:28:41,140 --> 01:28:43,480
do a song right now. But hey,
let's we're gonna end with the

1629
01:28:43,480 --> 01:28:47,080
song. But you guys have the was
it Wolf The wolf brothers.com,

1630
01:28:47,740 --> 01:28:48,400
Wolf brothers.com

1631
01:28:49,060 --> 01:28:51,280
you can do the Instagram, the
Facebook,

1632
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,260
doing all the stuff. Everyone.
Check out the Spotify. Six

1633
01:28:56,260 --> 01:28:59,980
records, nine. Golden guitar
awards, 19, number one

1634
01:28:59,980 --> 01:29:02,880
Australian country songs.
Congratulations, guys.

1635
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,840
Can I just say again how much I
know you guys and thank you for

1636
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,280
everything you've done. Thank
you guys.

1637
01:29:08,940 --> 01:29:10,860
You deserve everything you get,
mate you

1638
01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:13,980
thank you so much for my gift.

1639
01:29:13,980 --> 01:29:16,380
I had some. Yeah, I thought we
should

1640
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:18,960
get some. Gentlemen jack, and
you guys are just assuming that

1641
01:29:19,020 --> 01:29:20,360
gentlemen, I

1642
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:24,200
will take it lemonade. Might be
a little early, but, you know,

1643
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:24,980
we're Australian, so

1644
01:29:25,460 --> 01:29:26,840
we'll pop this after.

1645
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,760
But this is, this is a seminal
track for you guys. And if you

1646
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:36,860
got any drummers out there, I am
looking at a chart, because I

1647
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,420
care this.

1648
01:29:38,420 --> 01:29:41,860
So this basically opens pretty
much every show, yeah, every

1649
01:29:41,860 --> 01:29:43,360
show we open this, we almost

1650
01:29:43,540 --> 01:29:48,040
so rich Eric and JT, that's
right, yeah. Okay, thanks boy.

1651
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:48,580
Thanks, boys.

1652
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,300
It's rude down your window.

1653
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,640
Night moves on the radio,
breakfast

1654
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:20,120
in a hometown, All Oh,

1655
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:23,960
take it

1656
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,480
easy. Sunrise, by the 1000s
high.

1657
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,560
Moonlight 1000 times kind of
night.

1658
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,480
It's a drive through the desert.

1659
01:30:51,220 --> 01:30:52,120
Stars go

1660
01:30:55,480 --> 01:30:57,160
on forever.

1661
01:30:58,780 --> 01:31:05,220
It's beautiful. Get away saying
everything you want to say,

1662
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,100
take it

1663
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:15,000
easy,

1664
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,180
slow, ride everything.
Everything

1665
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,300
is alright. Bye.

1666
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:02,080
Sick, Everything,

1667
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:38,480
almost Oh.

1668
01:32:53,020 --> 01:33:00,540
Nice guys. So far, that is it.
You heard it here. That's the

1669
01:33:00,540 --> 01:33:03,840
wolf brothers. The wolf
brothers.com. Check them out.

1670
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:08,160
Crank up the Spotify. Support
them. Be a fan. Thank you guys

1671
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,240
so much for being here. Thank

1672
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:09,900
you, right? Thank

1673
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,040
you Jim as always, man, we
really appreciate your time and

1674
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,800
talent. Jim is a secret weapon.
You know something, when I when

1675
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,500
he's not here, I miss him. He
does so much with the file

1676
01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:22,940
management and the editing and
just making all the ugly stuff

1677
01:33:22,940 --> 01:33:28,580
behind the scenes look sexy.
Thanks, Jim and hey to all the

1678
01:33:28,580 --> 01:33:31,460
listeners out there. Thank you
so much. Be sure to subscribe,

1679
01:33:31,460 --> 01:33:35,240
share, rate and review. It helps
people find the podcast until

1680
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,780
next time see ya. Thanks.
Thanks, guys.

1681
01:33:39,740 --> 01:33:44,560
This has been the rich Redmond
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1682
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:45,040
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1683
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