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Fallon Jaye: Alright, so Abby
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Abby: self

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Fallon Jaye: yeah.

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Self love, which I feel like, um, I don't
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, but it's also so important.

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But what does it actually mean?

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Yes.

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And I feel like how is it, how are
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it and how is it really relevant
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ourselves or going through the motions.

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And so I think it's still a really
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Abby: well, it's very, yeah.

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And the other thing too that just
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is like so many people are talking.

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Self-love and also like self-care.

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And I feel like conflating those
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you know, if you schedule in like a
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drinking a lot of water and whatever,
getting massages, then like Woo,

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self-love, self-care, all of that.

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And I think what's more interesting
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in which self-love is like none of.

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, like ooey-gooey things that feel
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is giving yourself like permission
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beat yourself up about it, or letting
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not immediately rush to make yourself
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Yeah, I think there are so many ways
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get to choose to love ourselves that
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hear about, I think in mainstream.

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Fallon Jaye: Personal development,
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mean, it's taken a long time.

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I feel like, specifically for women
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do the things like the massages
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Exactly.

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Dropping into that slow
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It's been a lot of work and so
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self-love movement really began.

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Was, Hey, give yourself
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And now you and I are really talking
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looks a lot different than the hot bath,
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a hotter bath, but that means nothing
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discomfort, through tears, through, you
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and taking radical responsibility for.

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the ways that I show up that
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who I actually wanna be anymore.

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And that is like deep self-love and
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in my own life, a lot of self-love,
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been about doing the hard things.

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, like doing the things
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because that is the practice
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holding myself to who I wanna be.

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And it isn't all about like the
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the gummy bears and the ice cream
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Yes, that is also part of it, but
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Um, and really excavating a lot
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what, what, what dirt in that
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What is old and needs to be, you know?

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Mm-hmm.

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composted in a different way.

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Um, and so I know you and I are
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said, feeling our feelings mm-hmm.

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and, uh, is self-love without skipping
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positive, or I've gotta, and putting
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other than we are in that moment.

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Abby: Exactly.

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and I was actually, so I, I had a,
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emotional eating a couple days ago,
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yet to post, but I wrote down  Happens.

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Which is like, what if, what if
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worst habits are actually our
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, for example, like in this person, and I
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is always something that like bothers me.

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A habit that I, I hate, you know, not,
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obviously I've done a lot of work.

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Um, but a habit that is annoying.

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And for this other person, it's like,
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food because you, uh, when you grew up,
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and like to grieve when things happened.

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And what if by you choosing to use food in
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yourself and your way of allowing
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necessarily just like shove them away,
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And so it's, it's like getting to
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need to be judged as bad or wrong.

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But then that's where you kind of
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But it's, I think, learning that
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of everything about you in this
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I don't even wanna say good because
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the, the good and bad or good
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Like every, every part of us is, is okay.

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Fallon Jaye: well, yeah, it's
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it's all ways in which we created.

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Our safety created this, this feeling.

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of I'm gonna be loved and
I'm not gonna be abandoned.

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The core, the core, core wounds.

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what is all okay.

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Because it is all a part of our
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. And that is how we got
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And had we not had those, maybe
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maybe it would be a little bit
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So I love that because it's like when we
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When I was a little person, a little girl,
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This is what I taught myself or
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caregivers, in order to feel okay,
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loved, all the all the core things
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When you really take that perspective
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Learn to emotionally eat.

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Abby: Is a possible, and if you live
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trying to just figure out how to
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Like all of the ways in which we learn
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in as much homeostasis as possible.

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Fallon Jaye: Right.

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Acknowledging too, like
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And part of my self-love journey has
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to learn a new homeostasis of it is
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Fallon Jaye: And the calm.

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The calm and the call.

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I'm like, I don't have to
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, there's some chaos going on outside of
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It's like, why can't I just
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world for a long time growing up was.

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, the chaos and the storms.

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And being like, okay, I'm calm and
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And you know, you've been on this journey
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deepening into I am safe with myself.

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I am safe and quiet.

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I am safe on the sunny days.

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not, you know, and so the, the
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And then we can use the practices.

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To really like.

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I don't know, like, what's
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Like kind of just n nurture
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So like the hot bath, right.

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Not for me, but for you.

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Fallon Jaye: Cold Bath, you know,
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um, activate my nervous system and
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Discomfort.

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In the discomfort.

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, you know, and be really soft with
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Abby: you get this, you get to
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, you get to nurture yourself.

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What other ways can you feel, get those
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that support the life that you then
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me, like going back to my own c.

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, I was very, I was the youngest of a
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chaotic in terms of just everybody,
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like was not a problem, quote unquote.

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Or the one who was like, you know,
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And that has been a fun learning
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But, but in a way that feels
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stretch for me, but like now I know
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, you know, hold myself in, in
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the boundaries I've created.

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And you know, that can be a
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boundaries, which I'm sure it will be.

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Fallon Jaye: Yes.

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Cause that's one thing my mom always
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, you know, it's so easy.

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And part of me is like, I don't know
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choice to be otherwise . You know?

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Like, I don't think that there
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So I think you and I both
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were not the problem children.

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And so navigating like, I might
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what I'm actually feeling here and can I.

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, you know, rocking the rhythm of that
as other people are feeling those

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ripples, but that's their ripples
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Like, yes, I might feel like
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actually, or is their response to
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And so really like watching that, watching
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In the creation or the response of
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Right.

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Like mine is, you know, we
both have our different ways of

236
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really the self soothing mm-hmm.

237
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in ways that I'm now
serving, not in the old ways.

238
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Right?

239
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Like, like you noticed,
like biting your nails.

240
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I was a nail biter for way
more years of my life than not.

241
00:13:00,818 --> 00:13:03,968
Um, but we do, we have all these
little ways in which we soothe

242
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that are like, maybe that's not.

243
00:13:06,518 --> 00:13:09,578
Not the greatest, but um, and I also
love that you brought up boundaries.

244
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Cause that is such, it is, it's really
its own podcast, but that is really,

245
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again, gonna create ripples and waves
in your life that you get to learn how

246
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to hold yourself through the discomfort.

247
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And the last thing I wanna say on all
of this for me, so I not just taking

248
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up, you know, just chit-chatting the
whole time, is that reminding yourself.

249
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that discomfort is just a feeling.

250
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It doesn't mean anything
is actually wrong.

251
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Mm-hmm.

252
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. And so whenever I'm feeling that
like those changes and really that

253
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deeper self-love and like, oh, this
is uncomfortable, this is sticky.

254
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Somebody might be mad at me, or
whatever's feeling, it's, it's reminding

255
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myself that it's actually not bad.

256
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It's just mm-hmm.

257
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uncomfortable.

258
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Abby: Right, right, right.

259
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And, and learning to distinguish
between those things is also.

260
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It's own act of self-love, it's own act
of love, of just, it's so like learning

261
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to be, you know, which again, we're
gonna talk about this I'm sure more

262
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and more on every podcast, but like
learning to be very, um, just observing

263
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in tune with, with your thoughts,
with your body, with your emotions,

264
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with how everything is feeling, what
happens when you think something.

265
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and how does it, then, how does
that emotion then live in your body?

266
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Where does it live?

267
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Mm-hmm.

268
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and, and being able to kind of look
at that and, and see and feel and

269
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understand if any of that is even real.

270
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Like the emotion can be real.

271
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The thought oftentimes is not real.

272
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You know, it's like real in
the sense that you had it.

273
00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:57,338
I guess real and more of the
sense of being true or untrue or

274
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maybe true for you in the moment.

275
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Fallon Jaye: Right?

276
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Yeah.

277
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And is that just.

278
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A belief that I've held for a long
time that I've made to be true versus

279
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is it belief that I've held for a long
time that I'm deciding maybe there

280
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is some not truths to it that maybe,

281
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Abby: maybe it's not all the way true.

282
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Fallon Jaye: Yeah.

283
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That I subscribe to this belief because
I needed to and I You don't even have

284
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to know why you needed to, right, right.

285
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You have to dissect the roots
of like why I needed to.

286
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It's just okay, but now I get to
remember that beliefs are subscription.

287
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and I can unsubscribe at any time while
holding my right, like you said, really

288
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feeling the map within my body and
where I'm holding that belief and where

289
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the activation is and where I need to
really like say, Hey, I see you, right?

290
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Like, I'm so big and I
teach my daughter this too.

291
00:15:45,308 --> 00:15:46,718
Well, where do you feel it in your body?

292
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What does it.

293
00:15:47,523 --> 00:15:49,443
Saying, what is it telling you?

294
00:15:49,448 --> 00:15:49,913
Mm-hmm.

295
00:15:49,993 --> 00:15:52,593
, you know, maybe it's, I'm scared,
maybe it's, I don't know if I can

296
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do this, whatever it is, but really
being like, okay, I see you and

297
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seeing that part of you by actually
verbally acknowledging mm-hmm.

298
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Okay.

299
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I see you insert, you know,
emotion, feeling sensation right.

300
00:16:04,773 --> 00:16:05,193
Of you.

301
00:16:05,523 --> 00:16:10,803
Um, versus like you said earlier, you
know, pivoting to the positive too soon.

302
00:16:11,163 --> 00:16:11,553
Abby: Right.

303
00:16:11,763 --> 00:16:12,003
Right.

304
00:16:13,448 --> 00:16:17,018
I started laughing or I I got an
idea when you were talking about like

305
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how all of these beliefs are just
subscriptions and how, you know, there's

306
00:16:20,468 --> 00:16:25,358
a, there's that app that I always
get, um, I always get it on Instagram.

307
00:16:25,748 --> 00:16:31,463
That is a targeted ad to me where it's
like, hey, Here's just this one app

308
00:16:31,463 --> 00:16:34,673
where you can go through all of your
subscriptions and like unsubscribe from,

309
00:16:34,973 --> 00:16:38,213
you know, which ones you don't wanna be
paying for or like whatever, you know?

310
00:16:38,483 --> 00:16:42,773
I'm like, wouldn't that be so nice
to just, just like have an app that's

311
00:16:42,773 --> 00:16:45,743
like, hmm, do I wanna unsubscribe
from like all of these beliefs?

312
00:16:45,743 --> 00:16:46,073
Yes.

313
00:16:46,073 --> 00:16:48,383
We're just gonna like, click
that button off and then

314
00:16:48,413 --> 00:16:49,883
that's done and let's move on.

315
00:16:50,333 --> 00:16:51,353
. Oh, I wish it were,

316
00:16:51,683 --> 00:16:55,723
Fallon Jaye: I wish it
weren't . I know, but the human

317
00:16:55,723 --> 00:16:57,503
psyche is so much more complex.

318
00:16:57,863 --> 00:16:58,553
, 
Abby: it's so much more.

319
00:16:59,433 --> 00:17:00,903
Oh my gosh, yes.

320
00:17:01,803 --> 00:17:04,503
Um, so, oh, go ahead.

321
00:17:05,043 --> 00:17:09,273
No, one thing I was gonna say too, um,
because I feel like we could go down in

322
00:17:09,273 --> 00:17:13,923
this rabbit hole of talking about like
how to identify feelings and all of

323
00:17:13,923 --> 00:17:19,953
that stuff, but I just, I was thinking
about, I mean, when we had had talked

324
00:17:19,953 --> 00:17:25,993
about this theme of self-love and
talking about this, one of the things

325
00:17:26,223 --> 00:17:32,753
that came up for me was,  when I was
really, I even started with this journey.

326
00:17:32,783 --> 00:17:34,283
Yeah, I was, I was, okay.

327
00:17:34,283 --> 00:17:43,073
So I kind of started on my personal
development journey and I remember, um,

328
00:17:44,153 --> 00:17:48,893
it was, I think Christmas night and I
was at my grandma's house and I remember,

329
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and I just broken up with my, you know,
long-term boyfriend of five years.

330
00:17:54,533 --> 00:17:57,143
And I remember just
laying in bed thinking to.

331
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How, like silly things like, well,
whatever they are, what they are.

332
00:18:07,103 --> 00:18:12,023
But thinking, oh my God, it's gonna be
like, am I ever gonna, am I ever going

333
00:18:12,028 --> 00:18:14,453
to fall, like fall in love again and.

334
00:18:15,593 --> 00:18:18,923
It was so much easier because I had
always, you know, when I was out, you

335
00:18:18,923 --> 00:18:20,573
know, I'd be out or whatever without him.

336
00:18:20,573 --> 00:18:23,153
And I feel like, you know how Gales
can just like tell if you have a

337
00:18:23,153 --> 00:18:25,373
boyfriend and whenever you're like
with somebody else, that's like when

338
00:18:25,378 --> 00:18:29,243
they flock to you and you're like,
no, no, I don't have, like, I don't

339
00:18:29,248 --> 00:18:31,433
have time or space for you, whatever.

340
00:18:31,433 --> 00:18:32,453
I'm with somebody else.

341
00:18:32,873 --> 00:18:35,243
And then when, when you're single,
sometimes it can feel like.

342
00:18:35,563 --> 00:18:36,163
Crickets.

343
00:18:36,823 --> 00:18:37,423
Fallon Jaye: I know.

344
00:18:37,423 --> 00:18:37,663
Yes.

345
00:18:37,663 --> 00:18:38,383
I'm single right now.

346
00:18:38,383 --> 00:18:39,223
And I, I would agree.

347
00:18:40,063 --> 00:18:41,853
, 
Abby: they're like, I'm feeling crickets.

348
00:18:42,303 --> 00:18:43,213
So many crickets.

349
00:18:43,753 --> 00:18:44,253
But they

350
00:18:44,253 --> 00:18:45,013
Fallon Jaye: make beautiful music.

351
00:18:45,683 --> 00:18:46,413
They do

352
00:18:48,673 --> 00:18:53,143
. 
Abby: Um, but I was thinking, I was
laying there thinking, oh my God,

353
00:18:53,163 --> 00:18:56,583
how like it's so much easier to.

354
00:18:57,453 --> 00:19:00,998
it's, it feels so much easier to find
love, like when you already have it, you

355
00:19:00,998 --> 00:19:02,648
know, when you already have the thing.

356
00:19:02,648 --> 00:19:04,688
It's so, it feels so much
easier to attract that.

357
00:19:05,168 --> 00:19:11,978
And I got this voice in my head that
was just, you know, it wasn't mine.

358
00:19:11,978 --> 00:19:15,578
It was, it was, I feel like the first
time you really heard, you know, voice

359
00:19:15,578 --> 00:19:19,838
of intuition, voice of like angels
guides come in being like, but what if

360
00:19:19,838 --> 00:19:21,368
you were the one who already loved you?

361
00:19:21,998 --> 00:19:23,978
Because I was like, it's so
much easier when you already

362
00:19:23,978 --> 00:19:25,088
have someone who loves you.

363
00:19:26,033 --> 00:19:28,133
And they were like, well, what if you
were the one who already loved you?

364
00:19:28,133 --> 00:19:32,243
And I was like, well, that
is a fucking novel concept.

365
00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:35,273
Fallon Jaye: Well, what a mind bender.

366
00:19:36,153 --> 00:19:36,643
. What?

367
00:19:36,803 --> 00:19:41,273
I love this cause this goes into
the depths of self-love of where

368
00:19:41,273 --> 00:19:44,883
are you looking for somebody
else to fulfill for you exactly

369
00:19:44,883 --> 00:19:46,603
what you are not giving yourself.

370
00:19:46,603 --> 00:19:47,203
Mm-hmm.

371
00:19:47,283 --> 00:19:50,783
. And that is the creating the safety
within yourself of like, okay, I was.

372
00:19:51,083 --> 00:19:55,433
Putting my power over here, my
energy over here and, and you know,

373
00:19:55,493 --> 00:19:59,513
either subconsciously or outwardly
consciously blaming this person

374
00:19:59,518 --> 00:20:01,133
for not being able to fulfill this.

375
00:20:01,463 --> 00:20:04,913
But have I actually even
tried to give that to myself?

376
00:20:05,123 --> 00:20:05,963
Exactly.

377
00:20:06,083 --> 00:20:06,203
Abby: Mm-hmm.

378
00:20:06,473 --> 00:20:12,893
, like so many, I think so many
women are oftentimes like, you

379
00:20:12,893 --> 00:20:15,683
know, when it comes to dating or
it comes to being in relationships

380
00:20:15,683 --> 00:20:17,063
and they're always so concerned.

381
00:20:18,743 --> 00:20:21,893
How their partner's feeling about
something or if it's something that

382
00:20:21,893 --> 00:20:23,273
their partner is gonna be okay with.

383
00:20:23,273 --> 00:20:29,423
And, and I, you know, have to call it
back to, okay, it's great that you're,

384
00:20:29,483 --> 00:20:34,253
that you're wanting to be a good partner
here, but what do you think about this?

385
00:20:34,493 --> 00:20:38,153
Is this person, even the kind of
person that you wanna be with,

386
00:20:38,183 --> 00:20:42,203
who cares if they, if they don't
like you, do you even like them?

387
00:20:42,383 --> 00:20:45,143
Like, are they even the kind of
partner that you wanna be with?

388
00:20:45,143 --> 00:20:45,983
Are they even.

389
00:20:46,868 --> 00:20:51,218
Did they even have any or all of
the qualities or whatever, and

390
00:20:51,218 --> 00:20:56,138
just taking it back to, okay, no,
what do I actually want for myself?

391
00:20:56,138 --> 00:20:59,888
What am I looking to create
for myself in my life?

392
00:20:59,888 --> 00:21:02,018
Not even just in relationships, but Yes.

393
00:21:02,078 --> 00:21:03,248
With any relationship that

394
00:21:03,248 --> 00:21:03,638
Fallon Jaye: you're in.

395
00:21:03,998 --> 00:21:04,328
Yeah.

396
00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:07,328
Relationship with job, with
money, with success, with career.

397
00:21:07,328 --> 00:21:07,628
Yes.

398
00:21:07,628 --> 00:21:09,128
All of friendships, sisterhoods.

399
00:21:09,578 --> 00:21:09,908
Yeah.

400
00:21:10,058 --> 00:21:10,478
And.

401
00:21:11,753 --> 00:21:16,703
Am do I like who I have to be in
order to maintain this relationship?

402
00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:17,003
Does it

403
00:21:17,003 --> 00:21:21,533
Abby: exactly, am I making myself
small or, or am I making myself less?

404
00:21:21,893 --> 00:21:22,343
Fallon Jaye: Yes.

405
00:21:22,343 --> 00:21:26,843
And am I molding and I, and I am
I bending to try to understand to

406
00:21:26,843 --> 00:21:28,793
become somebody different, you know?

407
00:21:29,568 --> 00:21:35,003
and that that self betrayal becomes
really loud when you be, let yourself

408
00:21:35,008 --> 00:21:39,173
be really honest and also let yourself
walk through the fires of potentially

409
00:21:39,173 --> 00:21:40,943
being very alone for a while.

410
00:21:41,153 --> 00:21:41,303
Yeah.

411
00:21:41,573 --> 00:21:46,163
When you no longer allow yourself
to betray yourself, people will fall

412
00:21:46,163 --> 00:21:48,113
away and it will get a little lonely.

413
00:21:48,113 --> 00:21:51,863
Or, I don't even have to say I
don't, haven't experienced loneliness

414
00:21:51,863 --> 00:21:54,173
in a long time as I've, you know,
walked through the fires of my

415
00:21:54,178 --> 00:21:56,633
last 18 months of a lot of alone.

416
00:21:57,288 --> 00:22:04,638
But it is a, there is a, an alone
energy around it, but not lonely because

417
00:22:04,638 --> 00:22:08,838
the depths of which you hold yourself
in that sense, that real self-love,

418
00:22:08,843 --> 00:22:10,128
like you and I are talking about.

419
00:22:10,703 --> 00:22:13,733
Authentic, raw, unfiltered.

420
00:22:14,033 --> 00:22:14,123
Mm-hmm.

421
00:22:15,593 --> 00:22:16,523
self-love.

422
00:22:17,053 --> 00:22:19,673
Straight from God, straight from
the earth, straight from, you know,

423
00:22:19,673 --> 00:22:24,293
like there's, there's no cleaning
it up because it's so raw that,

424
00:22:24,503 --> 00:22:26,843
that, that loneliness dissipates.

425
00:22:27,173 --> 00:22:31,133
But it is, you know, it's a journey of
like, okay, some fire, you know, some

426
00:22:31,133 --> 00:22:32,655
things are getting burnt down or a lot of

427
00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:33,023
Abby: things.

428
00:22:33,353 --> 00:22:37,103
Well, and you know, like you're
saying, people will fall away.

429
00:22:38,078 --> 00:22:44,578
You will actually find yourself
probably maybe for the first time, Hmm.

430
00:22:45,278 --> 00:22:45,488
Price.

431
00:22:45,488 --> 00:22:52,118
So it might feel, I don't know, it
might feel lonely as if the people

432
00:22:52,118 --> 00:22:55,448
who are not really meant to be in
your circle are no longer there.

433
00:22:55,508 --> 00:23:00,488
And that is a different kind of
discomfort because as part of the

434
00:23:00,488 --> 00:23:04,088
human experience, we wanna be social
and part of groups and part of things.

435
00:23:04,088 --> 00:23:06,938
And it's not saying that you need to like
get rid of all of your friends, it's.

436
00:23:08,513 --> 00:23:13,718
God again, like back to boundaries,
like holding, holding the, you know,

437
00:23:13,718 --> 00:23:17,858
your circle open for only the people
of the highest, like who are gonna

438
00:23:17,858 --> 00:23:24,098
help you and you help them be kind
of the best versions of yourself.

439
00:23:24,698 --> 00:23:24,878
Yes.

440
00:23:24,878 --> 00:23:29,078
And putting yourself in
relationship to people only

441
00:23:29,078 --> 00:23:30,578
with like the highest standards.

442
00:23:31,148 --> 00:23:31,388
Yes.

443
00:23:31,438 --> 00:23:31,878
In that.

444
00:23:32,543 --> 00:23:35,333
Fallon Jaye: and recognizing when
you, when you do feel that distortion

445
00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:38,513
that, that, you know, that messy,
that kind of muddy energy mm-hmm.

446
00:23:39,083 --> 00:23:43,503
, it doesn't mean the other person or
experience is bad, it's just Right.

447
00:23:43,823 --> 00:23:47,303
Not, it's just not meshing with your
reality, your experience, and the

448
00:23:47,303 --> 00:23:48,593
way that your soul would like it too.

449
00:23:48,733 --> 00:23:49,343
Mm-hmm.

450
00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:50,783
, you know, but it's like I.

451
00:23:51,948 --> 00:23:56,228
, you know, I met you right bef right
before kind of du like at the very

452
00:23:56,228 --> 00:24:00,038
beginning of so much of my life burning
down and losing a lot of people.

453
00:24:00,788 --> 00:24:05,738
And so I wanna remind people too, that
like as things are burning and as you

454
00:24:06,398 --> 00:24:08,648
mm-hmm  are unwilling to betray yourself.

455
00:24:09,018 --> 00:24:13,458
And your truth, and you're willing to
walk through the, that forest solo.

456
00:24:13,878 --> 00:24:17,808
You find other people, you know, like
my Abby, you know, you find these

457
00:24:17,808 --> 00:24:20,808
people that are like, Hey, do you
mind if I walk with you for a while

458
00:24:20,808 --> 00:24:24,528
and let's talk about the flowers and
the birds and oh man, there, it's the

459
00:24:24,533 --> 00:24:26,028
whole forest step here burnt down.

460
00:24:26,033 --> 00:24:26,688
You're like, yeah.

461
00:24:26,693 --> 00:24:28,158
You know, so it's like you find.

462
00:24:29,348 --> 00:24:30,518
Or they're delivered to you.

463
00:24:30,518 --> 00:24:31,328
You don't even find them.

464
00:24:31,328 --> 00:24:34,658
They're there, you know, they're, they've
been on the path all along waiting for

465
00:24:34,658 --> 00:24:39,998
you to take that right or that left on
the, on the path that is really of your.

466
00:24:40,748 --> 00:24:42,338
Your highest, healthiest good.

467
00:24:42,338 --> 00:24:43,208
It's just right.

468
00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:48,038
Leaving behind the comfort zone in order
to do to, to become that and to walk that.

469
00:24:48,398 --> 00:24:48,818
Abby: Right.

470
00:24:48,823 --> 00:24:53,018
And you know, again, this could be, well
this will be a whole other podcast just

471
00:24:53,018 --> 00:24:57,338
on energetics of things, but it's like
when you're the energetic of who you're

472
00:24:57,343 --> 00:24:59,408
holding space for, who you're holding.

473
00:24:59,948 --> 00:25:03,278
Like the energetic of the
blueprint of the kind of person

474
00:25:03,278 --> 00:25:04,928
that you'll allow into your field.

475
00:25:04,933 --> 00:25:05,258
Mm-hmm.

476
00:25:05,338 --> 00:25:08,468
those people will then start to come
into your field and other people will

477
00:25:08,468 --> 00:25:12,308
just naturally fall away because you
just don't have, you don't have space

478
00:25:12,308 --> 00:25:14,678
in, in your zone for them anymore.

479
00:25:15,068 --> 00:25:15,128
Yeah.

480
00:25:15,128 --> 00:25:16,478
And it just is how it is.

481
00:25:16,868 --> 00:25:17,108
And it

482
00:25:17,108 --> 00:25:21,458
Fallon Jaye: becomes less about them
being bad or good and just more, yeah.

483
00:25:21,568 --> 00:25:22,058
Okay.

484
00:25:22,058 --> 00:25:22,298
That's

485
00:25:22,298 --> 00:25:22,658
Abby: different.

486
00:25:22,658 --> 00:25:23,579
Not, not for.

487
00:25:24,463 --> 00:25:27,638
May, and maybe they served you well
and taught you a lesson at some point

488
00:25:27,638 --> 00:25:30,368
in your life, and then you get to
move on and you both get to move on.

489
00:25:30,578 --> 00:25:31,058
Fallon Jaye: Yeah.

490
00:25:31,058 --> 00:25:36,278
And also I'm not for them and that doesn't
make me bad or better or worse or anything

491
00:25:36,278 --> 00:25:38,528
where Yeah, it's just, it just is.

492
00:25:38,808 --> 00:25:39,298
Yeah.

493
00:25:39,303 --> 00:25:43,208
And you know, also when you personalize
it, it's another layer of self-love

494
00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:44,738
of like, okay, I'm personalizing this.

495
00:25:45,563 --> 00:25:50,603
How can I pull back my projections or
whatever I'm feeling and and nurture

496
00:25:50,603 --> 00:25:55,433
what I most need, but it really becomes
this beautiful trust of life leading.

497
00:25:56,183 --> 00:25:56,273
Mm-hmm.

498
00:25:56,693 --> 00:26:00,683
bring you exactly what you need, when you
need it, who you need, all of the things.

499
00:26:01,313 --> 00:26:05,513
And your job is to continually tune into
yourself, nurture yourself, and take

500
00:26:05,513 --> 00:26:06,113
Abby: the next step.

501
00:26:06,743 --> 00:26:07,043
Yeah.

502
00:26:07,043 --> 00:26:10,913
And create the standards around
what you are available for.

503
00:26:11,033 --> 00:26:11,573
Yes.

504
00:26:11,633 --> 00:26:14,333
And those of experiences
are then going to.

505
00:26:15,008 --> 00:26:19,148
You'll be guided to, they'll be
delivered to you and you'll go for it.

506
00:26:19,478 --> 00:26:21,368
Fallon Jaye: Decide
over and over, you know?

507
00:26:21,368 --> 00:26:21,608
Mm-hmm.

508
00:26:21,688 --> 00:26:22,048
, I mean,

509
00:26:22,678 --> 00:26:23,248
Abby: it's not

510
00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:24,068
Fallon Jaye: a one time decision.

511
00:26:24,188 --> 00:26:29,318
No, you, we have to have to decide
again, like, okay, this is my okay.

512
00:26:29,318 --> 00:26:31,478
Because just because we create
a standard and a boundary.

513
00:26:32,333 --> 00:26:35,283
We're then going to get the
opportunity to, to, that's it.

514
00:26:35,283 --> 00:26:37,163
Become who we said we were becoming.

515
00:26:37,163 --> 00:26:37,443
Yeah.

516
00:26:37,443 --> 00:26:37,803
Right.

517
00:26:37,803 --> 00:26:41,843
And so that is like sitting in the
discomfort of like, this has to be a

518
00:26:41,843 --> 00:26:45,143
no, because I know that this crosses the
boundaries, but it's really uncomfortable.

519
00:26:45,173 --> 00:26:45,263
Mm-hmm.

520
00:26:45,503 --> 00:26:48,203
. So we get opportunities to, to
fall back into old patterns.

521
00:26:48,203 --> 00:26:52,673
And it doesn't make us right or wrong, it
just gives us more practice or, or send

522
00:26:52,673 --> 00:26:56,303
the discomfort of like, oh, okay, this
is, I'm no longer available for this.

523
00:26:56,303 --> 00:26:59,243
And so if I say yes to this,
then I'm sending mixed messages

524
00:26:59,243 --> 00:27:00,863
not only to myself, but to.

525
00:27:01,253 --> 00:27:03,013
the world and mm-hmm.

526
00:27:03,133 --> 00:27:03,733
, we get to decide.

527
00:27:04,063 --> 00:27:04,453
Abby: Yeah.

528
00:27:04,663 --> 00:27:09,733
And taking it back to our original topic
of self left , I mean, this is, I feel

529
00:27:09,738 --> 00:27:15,943
like the true depths of what it means
in reality is choosing every day who

530
00:27:15,943 --> 00:27:17,983
you wanna be, what you're available for.

531
00:27:18,523 --> 00:27:23,593
That regardless of like how it all goes,
you are gonna sit, sit with yourself, love

532
00:27:24,023 --> 00:27:26,053
yourself, nurture yourself through it.

533
00:27:26,413 --> 00:27:27,193
Even if.

534
00:27:27,863 --> 00:27:29,363
You fuck it up because we all do.

535
00:27:29,543 --> 00:27:31,403
We're all gonna like, do stupid shit.

536
00:27:31,463 --> 00:27:33,293
And, and is it stupid?

537
00:27:33,683 --> 00:27:36,473
It might feel stupid to your human
brain, but maybe it was the lesson

538
00:27:36,473 --> 00:27:44,723
you needed to learn and just like
allowing all of the things to flow

539
00:27:45,233 --> 00:27:49,913
through you and you to flow through
it while continually making the choice

540
00:27:50,363 --> 00:27:53,093
of what you want and who you wanna be.

541
00:27:53,543 --> 00:27:54,143
Fallon Jaye: Yes.

542
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:55,233
And and yeah.

543
00:27:55,313 --> 00:27:55,733
And choosing.

544
00:27:56,858 --> 00:27:57,248
Yeah.

545
00:27:57,638 --> 00:27:59,048
And that's not bad.

546
00:27:59,468 --> 00:27:59,648
No.

547
00:27:59,648 --> 00:28:01,478
Like keeping yourself is so good.

548
00:28:01,908 --> 00:28:02,498
. 
Abby: So good.

549
00:28:02,788 --> 00:28:03,378
So good.

550
00:28:03,743 --> 00:28:04,238
, so good.

551
00:28:04,568 --> 00:28:05,108
And it's just

552
00:28:05,288 --> 00:28:06,218
Fallon Jaye: uncomfortable
in the beginning.

553
00:28:06,218 --> 00:28:07,298
And it's still uncomfortable.

554
00:28:07,298 --> 00:28:11,228
I mean, there's times that, that even
now I'm like, oh, this feels a little

555
00:28:11,233 --> 00:28:13,088
bit, you know, quote unquote selfish.

556
00:28:13,298 --> 00:28:16,778
But is this what's going to fill my
cup to be able to then fill others?

557
00:28:17,783 --> 00:28:18,473
Exactly.

558
00:28:18,683 --> 00:28:23,183
Um, and if the answer is yes, then
it is no longer self selfish from it.

559
00:28:23,183 --> 00:28:26,603
The negative way that we've learned
of the definition of selfish,

560
00:28:26,603 --> 00:28:27,733
you know, it's, it's selfish.

561
00:28:28,073 --> 00:28:30,383
It's actually really nurturing.

562
00:28:30,653 --> 00:28:34,463
So then I have my natural nurture
in me, doesn't feel empty.

563
00:28:34,823 --> 00:28:38,843
My natural nurturer actually
gets to expand and like water.

564
00:28:38,843 --> 00:28:40,913
All the things around me from a place of.

565
00:28:41,813 --> 00:28:43,553
Oh my God, this is so joyful.

566
00:28:43,613 --> 00:28:44,123
Exactly.

567
00:28:44,123 --> 00:28:44,963
I was like, joy.

568
00:28:45,023 --> 00:28:45,353
Yeah.

569
00:28:45,353 --> 00:28:46,823
This is my natural state.

570
00:28:47,423 --> 00:28:47,813
You know?

571
00:28:47,813 --> 00:28:52,193
Whereas if I just, if we don't
listen, we're, we're really doing

572
00:28:52,193 --> 00:28:53,963
it from the emptiness that we know.

573
00:28:53,968 --> 00:28:56,333
That creates resentment and
there's a whole ripple effect and

574
00:28:56,663 --> 00:28:59,603
just an opportunity for us to get
back in alignment if we fall back

575
00:28:59,603 --> 00:29:00,743
into those pleasing patterns.

576
00:29:00,743 --> 00:29:04,823
But yeah, you know, I think you
and I are making it really clear

577
00:29:04,823 --> 00:29:07,913
that we could just talk about this
subject for like five more episodes.

578
00:29:08,603 --> 00:29:08,893
. I

579
00:29:08,893 --> 00:29:10,733
Abby: know I just had
a vision of you just.

580
00:29:11,648 --> 00:29:15,668
Like kind of, um, walking, not even
walking, but like skipping around like

581
00:29:15,668 --> 00:29:19,748
a yard with like a watering can and just
like, just watering little like sparkles

582
00:29:19,748 --> 00:29:23,288
of water on like different areas of your
life and different people and being like,

583
00:29:23,288 --> 00:29:24,788
see, and this is what it looks like.

584
00:29:24,848 --> 00:29:25,568
This is great.

585
00:29:25,658 --> 00:29:30,398
You know, graphic  gonna just
let it spray all over myself

586
00:29:30,518 --> 00:29:31,628
and then I'm gonna fill it up.

587
00:29:33,068 --> 00:29:33,908
I water everything around

588
00:29:33,908 --> 00:29:34,178
Fallon Jaye: me.

589
00:29:34,478 --> 00:29:35,738
I like that visual though.

590
00:29:35,738 --> 00:29:36,728
It's true.

591
00:29:36,848 --> 00:29:37,148
You know?

592
00:29:37,148 --> 00:29:37,898
It's true.

593
00:29:38,468 --> 00:29:38,768
Yeah.

594
00:29:38,948 --> 00:29:40,188
That's the way it gets to be.

595
00:29:41,423 --> 00:29:41,573
Abby: It is.

596
00:29:42,653 --> 00:29:44,353
So I think this was a.

597
00:29:45,413 --> 00:29:46,883
A good, um, pretty good take,

598
00:29:47,723 --> 00:29:49,133
Fallon Jaye: take off point of self

599
00:29:50,183 --> 00:29:51,023
I'm just getting started.

600
00:29:51,173 --> 00:29:52,853
Abby: It's a good takeoff on this.

601
00:29:53,423 --> 00:29:57,563
And we've dived into several other
topics that we can go into in more depth.

602
00:29:58,253 --> 00:29:58,853
Fallon Jaye: Yeah.

603
00:29:59,033 --> 00:30:02,603
But I think that, you know, the
foundations of what it is are obviously

604
00:30:02,603 --> 00:30:04,733
very covered in this, in this episode.

605
00:30:04,733 --> 00:30:06,533
And so, you know, let us know.

606
00:30:06,623 --> 00:30:08,633
Share with us like what are your favorite.

607
00:30:09,243 --> 00:30:13,473
Ways to practice self-love or what have
you learned about yourself in the process.

608
00:30:13,473 --> 00:30:17,943
And also if you'd like to hear more, you
know, drop us talk, what you wanna hear

609
00:30:17,948 --> 00:30:19,323
and talk about and want us to go deeper

610
00:30:19,323 --> 00:30:19,863
Abby: into.

611
00:30:20,133 --> 00:30:20,433
Yeah.

612
00:30:20,433 --> 00:30:23,793
And if you wanna share your journey
with it, we'd love to hear it too.

613
00:30:24,003 --> 00:30:24,453
Yes,

614
00:30:24,453 --> 00:30:25,263
Fallon Jaye: absolutely.

615
00:30:25,863 --> 00:30:30,783
Abby: So, okay, well this is so much
fun, , and we'll talk to you soon.