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Welcome to The Chemical Show, the
podcast where Chemical means business.

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I'm your host, Victoria Meyer,
bringing you stories and insights

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from leaders driving innovation and
growth across the chemical industry.

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Each week we explore key trends,
real world challenges, and the

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strategies that make an impact.

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Let's get started.

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Victoria: Welcome back to The Chemical
Show Where Chemical Means Business.

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Today is a special episode focusing
on career advice for new graduates

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who are embarking on careers inside
and outside the chemical industry.

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And frankly, this is advice that
applies for professionals at all levels.

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One of the favorite segments of the
Chemical show is when I ask leaders what

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advice would they give to their young
self and when they were embarking on

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their career, or young professionals
early in their career that want

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to achieve their level of success.

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And I've heard from a wide variety of
listeners that they love those insights.

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So today I have compiled some of my
favorites, added my own points of

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view, and put it all together for you.

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So This is an episode to Bookmark, to
Save, and more importantly, to share,

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share it on social media, whether
it's LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram,

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whatever your social media choice is.

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And of course, tag Me
and The Chemical Show.

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And also share it with your new college
graduate, your colleagues, or a friend.

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I hope that you're gonna enjoy this,
and I hope you come back to this as

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you progress along in your career.

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So it's graduation season.

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We have a field of young college graduates
ready to embark on professional careers.

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In fact, I've got one.

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My daughter, Madeline graduates
from Texas State University, with

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a degree in computer science and
she is ready to take on the world.

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Now, on a side note, Maddie has also
been my podcast editor and in charge

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of the blog for the past two years, so.

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While you may not have gotten
to know Madeline, she has

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definitely gotten to know you.

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And I'm certainly gonna miss her
when she moves on and tells me she no

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longer has time for the chemical show.

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But be that as it may, what
I've got for you today is career

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advice for new college grads.

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So number one.

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Embrace the journey.

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So, you know, I think there's
always this uncertainty when you

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embark on something new and it, it
was college and now it's career.

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And what I have to say is your career
is a marathon and not a sprint.

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I.

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know where you're going or where
you think you might wanna be in five

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or 10 years, and understand that
there are many paths to get there.

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So stack your wins.

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Be flexible, and enjoy this experience.

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I.

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It's gonna be one for the next,
you know, 10, 20, 30, 40 years.

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Kind of scary when you
think about it in that term.

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But enjoy the journey that
you're on today, over the

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next five years and beyond.

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So that's Kaur peace number one.

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Career advice number two, use your voice.

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You have a seat at the table for a reason.

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So seat at the table in the office on the
zoom call, on a teams call, what have you.

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You're there.

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You're there for a reason and part
of your reason is not just to learn

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and listen, but it's also to engage.

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Engage, share your point
of view, ask questions.

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I.

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Do it respectfully, right?

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Especially as you are embarking in that
new role, but you are there, you have a

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voice, you have a point of view, use it.

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Um, and that is really critical
as you start your career

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and throughout number three.

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Build and create your work posse.

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I call it a posse.

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Some people say, oh, you should
start building your network.

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And I, I gotta be honest, when I was
early in my career, like that whole

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concept of what is my network and what
is networking was a little bit ambiguous.

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Right?

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What I would say to that
though is start building.

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Your posse, surround yourself
with good people, right?

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And think about your posse
with multiple generations.

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People that are more senior than
you, that are younger than you,

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that you can go to for advice.

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That will lend a hand, that will
give you a hand that you can

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share a hand and lift them up.

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one of the things I've found is.

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Leaders often will bring their
posse with them to their next role.

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So whether that's inside of a company,
when leaders are changing companies,

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you might be destined for the C-suite.

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You may be destined for a leadership role.

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And often leaders like to surround
themselves with people they

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know, like, and trust, know,
like, and trust how they work.

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That they're gonna have their back,
that they're going to help them achieve

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the success that they wanna achieve.

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So even at this early stage in your
career, start building your posse.

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Know who they are.

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They may not be your best friends.

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They may not be the people you socialize
with after work, but they are people

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that have strategic insight, that
offer great mentoring and coaching

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to you that have your back, that
can help support you in your career.

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Know them.

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Advice number four, have a lower
fear of failure than joy of success.

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So I heard that recently from Charlie
Landis, and I love that statement, right?

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Don't be afraid to take calculated risks.

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I.

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Some of this stuff is scary.

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It's uncertain.

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If it was all certain, we'd
all be doing the same thing.

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I sometimes say, you know, if
my magic ball or my crystal ball

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worked, uh, I would be a billionaire.

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Right?

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The reality is we don't know what
the future holds, but we can.

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Take chances, take calculated
risks and pursue success.

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So have a greater joy and
pursuit of success than you do.

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Fear of failure.

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You can fail and recover.

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You can fail and learn, and
recover and move forward.

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You're not going to have
those opportunities.

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You're not gonna have those great
successes  if you don't take a chance.

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So number five, develop expertise, right?

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So I've heard this from
a number of people.

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You wanna develop expertise,
you want to become known as

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the go-to person for something.

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And, and in fact, there's some people
that would say, um, you actually

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wanna have three career pillars.

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And I agree with that.

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You may not have them all at
to begin with, but be curious,

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pursue and develop expertise.

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Um, by the way, you may not find
out what that is right away.

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It may take you five or 10 years.

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So.

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Be flexible, learn and grow, and
continue to pursue that expertise.

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Dive deep.

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Don't be afraid of diving deep.

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You will develop expertise,
you'll develop insights.

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You'll become the go-to
person for something.

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Frankly, you could become the
go-to person for several things.

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Again, back to the whole Build your posse.

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People wanna surround
themselves with people that.

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Have confidence know what
they're doing that they trust.

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Part of that is having career expertise,
whether it's technical expertise,

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marketing expertise, sales expertise,
business expertise, expertise in a certain

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market approach way of doing things.

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Don't be afraid to go out and find and
build your expertise at the same time.

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Know your strengths and your
per your preferences, right?

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So be flexible to learn things,
right, but know that you're also

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not gonna be great at everything.

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That the first thing you
try may not be your thing.

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but go find it.

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Try new things, figure out
what the opportunities are.

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In fact, you know, if I think about
how the, uh, chemical industry in

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all industries have evolved, right?

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So, um, back when I was first starting my
career, right, I think about computers,

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like they were big, clunky desktops.

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And now, you know, and then along the way.

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It migrated to, we all
took laptops everywhere.

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And now you know what?

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People travel with phones that
have more computing powder

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than their original computer.

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Did ways of working evolve your
skills and experience, evolve

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the needs of the industry.

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Whatever industry you, you end up in,
whether it be the chemical industry,

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whether it be another industry, evolves,
but understand your strengths and your

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inherent strengths and go after that.

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my number seven, and this is really my
favorite, and this is something that I

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have held true throughout my career, which
is when opportunity knocks open the door.

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When you prove yourself, when you
develop that expertise, when you

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demonstrate courage, when you, understand
your strengths and preferences.

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Opportunity's gonna knock.

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And often always, like your career
path is not necessarily exactly

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how you laid it out on paper.

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maybe one step of, it's how you
laid it out on paper, but that paper

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keeps changing and shifting, right?

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When opportunity knocks.

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Open the door, be open and
flexible, take a chance, right.

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Broaden your skills and, um, when you
get that chance, show up and work hard.

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Right.

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So Michael Hines, north American, CEO
of BASF when I interviewed him, talked

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about showing up and giving 125%, um,
and how that creates opportunities.

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Absolutely.

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When those opportunities come, they come.

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Because you're a hard
worker and perform, right?

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So it's not enough just to work hard.

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That's easy to say, oh, we
all think we work hard, right?

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How about that?

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We all think we work hard.

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But the reality is you wanna work hard
and you wanna deliver, and you wanna

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make sure that it's the right work hard.

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So that's a extra piece of advice for you.

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but when you do that, opportunity knocks.

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Opportunities are gonna come to
you, open the door, understand

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what that is, be flexible.

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Take that chance.

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Number eight.

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Rome was not built in a day and
neither is your career, right?

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So you are going to learn, grow, develop,
and test yourself throughout your career.

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Where you start is not where
you're going to finish.

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Um, where you start may be amazing and
you find out that, hey, this is it.

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This is, this is the place,
the company, the, the direction

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that I wanna be heading.

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We may say, well, that was nice.

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Now I know what I don't wanna do.

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Recognize, again, I, I talked
about this at the beginning.

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Your career is a journey.

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It's a marathon and not a sprint.

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Keep growing and keep going, right?

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Number nine, Money matters, right?

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So this, I, I'm actually grouping
a bunch of things into this

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topic, which is, invest in your
company, 401k right away, right?

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And increase it every time
you get a raise, right?

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So that is maybe one of the best
pieces of advice I've ever gotten.

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it's kind of that set it
and forget it mentality.

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Just keep investing.

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Right?

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financial security.

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It gives you choices, that to me
is one of the great things we don't

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necessarily always talk about.

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You think, oh, hey, I'm, I'm
coming into the industry, I'm

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making a great amount of money.

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It's frankly, lemme tell you a kid,
it's never as much as you think it is.

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Um, because once you start paying
bills, you realize just how big your

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bills are, um, and how expensive stuff
is when you're off of, mom and dad's

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payroll or however that works out.

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But.

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Invest, invest, invest in your company.

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401k.

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Invest in a Roth IRA.

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Invest in whatever financial
engine and tool that you want.

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Don't be afraid to talk about money.

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So I, you know, I grew
up in an era and, and.

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It's hard for me to tell if you're
growing up in an era where we

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didn't always talk about money.

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learn to be comfortable talking about
money, talking about investments.

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frankly, you know, no company ever wants
you to ask about, Hey, what's your salary?

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And do salary comparisons, but
compare salaries, understand,

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understand what, where you stack
up, um, from a salary perspective.

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Talk about investments.

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Don't be afraid.

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You are not the expert.

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How do you become the expert?

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By talking to,  friends
and colleagues, right?

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You can talk to 'em and ask
them questions about, Hey, how

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are you investing your money?

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What have you talked about?

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What have you done?

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Talk to your financial advisors, right?

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And they are there for you.

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I'm gonna tell you, I don't think I,
I give you this feedback because I

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think sometimes I, I've been afraid
to talk to some of these people.

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Maybe, you know, you've had
that experience, being afraid

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to talk to some of these people.

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Engage, engage with Fidelity, Schwab,
whomever your, um, financial platform

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is that your company provides.

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That's for your 401k, your
external financial advisor.

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Go find one.

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You should have one.

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Even when you've got.

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A dollar to your name.

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Go figure out who that
financial advisor is.

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'cause they want you to
be successful, right?

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Here's the secret, they
want you to be successful.

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When your investments are successful,
you've got more money to invest.

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That makes them all happier, right?

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So money matters.

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Know your money.

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Invest your money.

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Don't be afraid to talk about your
money, um, in, in appropriate ways,

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right about investing and where you can
go and how you can think about that.

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Because that creates
long-term opportunity.

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It creates financial security.

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It gives you a wheelhouse to start
maybe investing in your own company,

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investing in somebody else's company,
retiring early, whatever it is that

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you've gotten your goals and dreams.

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Don't be afraid to talk about it.

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and in fact, that brings me to point
number 10, which is communication is key.

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I've heard that over and over again.

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You guys have probably heard
that over and over again, but.

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What I'm gonna tell you, you know, what
do, what should I be talking about?

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Like, as a new young college grad,
as a young professional, heck,

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as a mid-career professional,
what should we be talking about?

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I, I like to talk about having,
being prepared for show and tell.

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So you remember when we were in
kindergarten and you'd bring in your toy

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or you know, Hey, I got a pen right here.

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You bring in your widget and say,
Ooh, I've got this great blue widget.

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Well, you're not talking
about that anymore, but

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you're talking about yourself.

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Who you are, how you're
contributing, what you're working on.

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what cool thing did you recently learn?

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What do you want to do next, right?

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Because if you don't tell people what
you do wanna do next, what you're

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doing, who you are, how you work,
what you're excited about, they're

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gonna make all kinds of assumptions.

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they may think nothing, frankly, 'cause.

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You know, surprise, surprise.

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We don't actually think
about other people.

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Most people are egocentric.

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They don't think that
much about other people.

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Um, your boss is not sitting up at
night wondering what you're doing

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and what you're thinking about
what your next career goal is.

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Own it.

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Talk about it, communicate it.

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I like to talk about show and
tell and really being prepared

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with an elevator pitch.

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So really, like if you get stuck in an
elevator with somebody, you got 10 seconds

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when the big boss says, Hey, how are you?

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What's your, what are
you working on today?

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Don't just say, uh, good.

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You talk to 'em and you say,
loving this opportunity.

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I've got at Company X.

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Really excited to be working on
this project and, and the results.

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So be interesting.

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Be interesting and be interested.

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Be ready to talk about your
contributions, your excitement,

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where you're going, and really how
you fit into the bigger picture.

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And frankly, communication, of
course, is always a two way street.

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Ask questions, be curious,
create that dialogue.

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So.

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Those are my 10.

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Um, this is long and yet
it's short and sweet.

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My advice to you class of
2025, is enjoy the journey.

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You've earned it.

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Congratulations.

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Congratulations to the new graduates
class of 2025, successfully graduating

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from college and embarking on their
next steps, whether it be career

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or more college and what have you.

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Your future is bright.

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