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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Well, welcome back to

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another episode of The Bible Guys.
I'm Jeff Forster and my guest co host

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is the dazzling Wesley Woods and he's
with me today. So welcome Wesley.

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He's welcome back to the studio.
Man, this has been great. Chris

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Sarbaugh is our regular co host,
and he's out of town shooting some video.

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We're getting ready to take on a
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so he's doing some video work on
that right now. And so here you

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are, the dazzling Wesley Woods.
Yeah, it gets better and better and

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better. Yes. I love the
big adjectives. Yeah. So, Wesley,

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Chris and I have a very strong
commitment to our listeners to bring only

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the finest news, yes, and
the most compelling investigative journalism that we can

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find. Yep. And so what
we found is we think the most trustworthy

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news source on all of the Internet
is the Babylon b. Yeah. If

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you don't know, the Babylon b
is a satire website. And so I'm

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gonna you have the radio voice,
so I'm gonna let you do do this

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next news segment for listeners. So
the title of this is study finds one

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hundred percent of men cooking on grill
just kind of moving meat around and hoping

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for the best. It's hilarious,
it says. With summer barbecue season about

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to heat up, a new study
has found that are remarkable one hundred percent

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of men cooking on a grill.
We're kind of moving meat around and hoping

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for the best. The new findings
confirmed what many experts have long suspected,

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meaning hundreds of millions of men wearing
grill master aprons have been flying by the

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seats of their cargo pants all along. It turns out all these guys are

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just out there winging it, said
Professor thursting Thurston Billingsley, who led the

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research team. Though men often talk
a bit game about knowing all there is

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to know about grilling meat, they
are in reality just poking at sausages and

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flipping pieces of meat haphazardly without knowing
the outcome whatsoever. When reach for comment

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on the study results, one man
came clean, Yes, yes, it's

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true. God forgive me, it's
true, and self profess grilling officionado,

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Scottie Moon, I have no clue
what I'm doing. I'm just out there

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shoving meat around to different areas on
the grill and hoping for the best.

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I can do everything exactly like I
did the last time, but it never

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turns out the same way twice in
a row. Why is that why?

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The story also confirmed that all men
purchase as many grilling tools and accessories as

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possible in order to maintain they At
publishing time, the research team was preparing

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to move on to its next study, which would determine what percentage of men

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had no idea how a toilet actually
worked or how to fix one. Okay,

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good, well, hey, that
hits a little too close to home

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today, so let's just move on. Yes, okay, so are you

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a thriller? Do you like to
grill? I'm not a big griller.

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I like the things that are on
the grill, but I'm not a big

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griller. I love to grill.
It's one of my favorite things. And

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uh yeah, I do think a
lot of men also doing his movie over

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here love it over there. Yep, that's funny. So yeah, well,

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poor Scotti. I felt bad for
him. He got exposed right there

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in the article. But as it
turns out, they're just winging it by

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with the cargo pants, right,
isn't that what they said? That's what

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got me. They're flying by the
season the cargo pants. Oh man,

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that's good. All right, Hey, I think over the weekend, I'm

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gonna do some tacos. I'm gonna
make some tacos. I like to be

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good. I like to grill for
the start for the staff, right,

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So usually we'll have forty fifty people
show up for a staff meeting like that,

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and I like to grill. So
I think here in the next few

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weeks, we're gonna be grilling for
the whole staff. Good. So I

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always like to try to test the
thing at home before I scale it up

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for you. Once you did the
different was it sausages or yeah, we

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did sausages and hot dogs, or
we did all the different stations and they

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different hot dogs. Yeah yeah,
yeah, those were grill it's too high

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class, yeah yeah, very high
class. Yeah. But I like to

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smoke meat. And I made some
venison sausages from a deer a deer at

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harvested a while back, and smoked
them on the smoker and yeah, I

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like all this. I love to
throw a good steak on the fire.

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I love to to grill things,
you know, unique, weird things on

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the grill. So it's it's just
I love it. Okay. So here's

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the question, though, how do
you like your meat cooked? Do you

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like it rare, medium, well, burnt? Yeah? It depends on

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what it is, and it depends
on where I'm at. If I'm in

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the US, I don't mind it
being a little on the rare side.

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If I'm overseas, I want it
cook to a brick. Yeah. I

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think when we were in Africa,
I told them to cook everything. Well,

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you can take that bread, throw
the bread on the grill, cook

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everything well. Yeah, so I
eat street food, all those things all

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over the world. As long as
I can watch them cooking it, I'm

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fine. But you were with me
the only time I've ever gotten sick from

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eating meat overseas. While we were
overseas, man, I got so sick

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on that trip. But you said
medium, if I remember, I did.

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I did. I don't think that
translated like medium. Well, so

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we were in the embassy area and
then the guy we were with said,

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oh, don't worry about it.
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this is everything, everything's made just
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I was like, okay, well
then I just figured it was gonna be

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safe, and it was not.
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I was going for both volume and
accuracy. I mean, I can attest

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to that it was rough. Okay, well, anyways, we should move

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on. That was a low point
in the whole show. Here. So

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Joseph is God is blessing him.
The Bible says God was with Joseph and

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everything that he did. But then
Potiphar's wife comes after him and she makes

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a move, and then she accuses
him of making a move on her,

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and Potiphar gets mad throws Joseph in
prison. Then while Joseph is in prison,

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God is with him in prison.
He's working hard, he's serving the

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Lord, he's serving people, and
he keeps being elevated. Finally he's over

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the whole prison, all the prisoners. And during that time, the King's

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cup bearer andare Pharaoh's cupbear, and
Pharaoh I know you get drink, drink

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and eat all day long and the
chief baker both get thrown in prison.

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I don't know what the baker made
that was bad. But he's right,

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these cookies are horrible. So they
send these two guys. Well, while

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they're there, both of these guys
have dreams and they come to Joseph,

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and Joseph said, well, maybe
maybe the Lord can help me, you

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know, understand your dream and he
explains the meaning of the dreams. One

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of them is going to live,
one of them is going to die.

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Sure enough, the Pharaoh executes the
one guy, the baker, and the

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pharaoh's chief cupbearer he would store,
is restored. And so Joseph, as

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this guy is being restored back and
he's leaving the prison, Justph said hey,

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if you can help me out right, could you tell Pharaoh? You

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know, because these people would stay
in prison for sometimes years. So a

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prisoner in Egypt was guilty until proven
innocent, and then there was no right

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to speedy trial. It was just
at the whim of the rulers. And

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so you could be in there for
years or maybe never get a trial because

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you were guilty because you were accused. And so Joseph is trying to appeal

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to somebody who maybe has the ear
of Pharaoh to say, hey, if

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you could help a brother out.
Yeah, great, So now here we

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are in Genesis chapter forty one,
So we're gonna skip forty because it just

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tells the story of him interpreting the
dreams, and we'll pick up with verse

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forty one after he asks the cup
bearer, hey, could you help me

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out? The Bible says two full
years later, Pharaoh dreamed that he was

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standing on the bank of the Nile
River. In his dream, he saw

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seven fat, healthy cows come up
out of the river began grazing in the

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marsh grass. Then he saw seven
more cows come up behind them from the

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Nile, but these were scrawny and
thin, and these cows stood beside the

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fat cows on the river bank.
Then the scrawnye thin cows ate the seven

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healthy, fat cows. At this
point in the dream, Pharaoh woke up,

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but he fell asleep again and had
a second dream. This time he

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saw seven heads of grain, plump
and beautiful, growing on a single stalk.

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Then seven more heads of grain appeared, but these were shriveled and withered

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by the east wind, and these
thin heads swallowed up the seven plump,

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well formed heads. Then Pharaoh woke
up again and realized it was a dream.

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The next morning, Pharaoh was very
disturbed by the dreams, so he

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called for all the magicians and wise
men of Egypt. When Pharaoh told them

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his dreams, none of them could
tell him what they meant. Finally,

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the king's chief cupbearer spoke up.
Today, I've been reminded of my failure,

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he told Pharaoh. Some time ago, you were angry with the Chief

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Baker and me, and you imprisoned
us in the place in the palace of

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the Captain of the Guard. One
night, the chief Baker and I had

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a dream, and each dream had
its own meaning. And there was a

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young Hebrew man with us in the
prison who was a slave of the Captain

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of the Guard. We told him
our dreams, and he told us what

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each of our dreams meant. And
everything happened just as he predicted. I

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was restored to my position as cupbear. The Chief Baker was executed and paled

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on a pole. Pharaoh sent for
Joseph at once, and he was quickly

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brought from the prison. After he
shaved and changed his clothes, he went

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in and stood before fear Pharaoh.
Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, I had

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a dream last night no one here
can tell me what it means. But

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I've heard that when you hear about
a dream, you can interpret it.

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It is but beyond my power to
do this, Joseph replied, But God

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can tell you what it means and
set you at ease. And so Pharaoh

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told Joseph his dream. We can
skip that because I just told you seven

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cows, eight seven cows, and
seven heads of grain eight seven heads of

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grain. And so when he comes
down to the end, he says,

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I told these dreams to the magicians, but no one could tell me what

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they mean, as verse twenty four. So then in twenty five, Joseph

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responded, both of Pharaoh's dreams mean
the same thing. God is telling Pharaoh

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in advance what he's about to do. The seven healthy cows and the seven

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healthy heads of grain both represent seven
years of prosperity. The seventh thin scrawny

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cows that came up later, and
the seven thin heads of grain, which

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withered by the east wind, represents
seven years of famine. This will happen

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just as I've described it, for
God has revealed to Pharaoh in advance what

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he's about to do the next seven
years will be a period of great prosperity

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throughout the land of Egypt. But
afterward there will be seven years of famine,

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so great that all the prosperity will
be forgotten in Egypt. Famine will

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destroy the land. This famine will
be so severe that even the memory of

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the good years will be erased.
As for having two similar dreams, it

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means that these events have been decreed
by God, and He will soon make

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them happen. Therefore, Pharaoh should
find an intelligent and wise man and put

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him in charge of the entire land
of Egypt. Then Pharaoh should appoint supervisors

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over the land and let them collect
one fifth of all the crops during the

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seven good years. Have them gather
all the food produced in the good years

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that are just ahead, and bring
it to Pharaoh's storehouse stored away, and

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guard it so there will be food
in the cities. That way, there

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will be enough to eat when the
seven years of famine come to the land

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of Egypt. Otherwise this famine will
destroy the land. How far are we

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supposed to read here, Let's think
to forty five. Forty five. So

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Joseph's suggestions were well received by Pharaoh, and as an officials so Pharaoh asked

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his officials, can we find anyone
else like this man, so obviously filled

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with the spirit of God. Then
Pharaoh said to Joseph, since God has

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revealed the meaning of the dreams to
you clearly, no one is as intelligent

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or as wise as you are.
You will be in charge of my court,

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and all my people will take orders
from you. Only I, sitting

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on my throne, will have a
rank higher than yours. Pharaoh said to

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Joseph, I hereby put you in
charge of the entire land of Egypt.

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And then Pharaoh removed this signet ring
from his hand and placed it on Joseph's

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finger. He dressed him in fine
linen clothing and hung a gold chain around

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his neck. And then he had
Joseph ride in the chariot reserved for his

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second in command. And wherever Joseph
went, the command was shouted, kneel

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down. So Pharaoh put Joseph in
charge of all of Egypt. And Pharaoh

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said to him, I am Pharaoh, but no one will lift a hand

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or foot in the entire land of
Egypt without your approval. And then I'll

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read verse forty six too, or
forty five. It says then Pharaoh gave

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Joseph a new Egyptian name, zaphanath
Pania. He also gave him a wife

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whose name was asked, and she
was the daughter of Potipharah, the priest

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of Ann. So Joseph took charge
of the entire land of Egypt. He

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was thirty years old. Wow,
isn't that's something that's pretty good. Yeah.

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One of the first things that jumps
out to me here is in verse

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eight, where it says the next
morning, Pharaoh was very disturbed by the

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dreams, so he called for all
the magicians and wise men of Egypt.

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And the first thought that popped into
my mind was, be very careful of

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who you get your information from.
Be very careful of who you consult for

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advice. I think that's really important. So instead of going to a godly

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person, he went the magician route
and to try to seek information that route

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instead of going to Joseph. So
eventually he did go to Joseph, but

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his initial response was to gather the
magicians and the other people. So I

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think of that in our own personal
life. Be very careful of who you

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consult for direction and guidance in your
life. Make sure they're a godly person.

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Make sure they're following God's word.
Make sure they are giving you advice

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that lines up with God's word as
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right, the kind of advisors we
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and a multitude of counselors, but
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to get wisdom from them. Yeah, and so in this situation, Pharaoh

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kind of his magicians were exposed as
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actually understand a message from a real
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Jeff, So there's someone listening to
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through something. Should they consult their
friend, who is maybe knows no more

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than they know, but who's a
good friend with them? Should they consult

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that friend for advice and guidance and
direction. And that friend is at the

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same level, Let's say their friend
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so to speak. Well, if
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you know, or hey, the
does do these clothes look nice?

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Or what kind of car should I
get? Sure? Yeah, But if

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you're trying to make life license decisions. You know, don't ask your unless

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your friend is a tax expert.
Don't ask your friend advice on taxi.

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Go find a tax expert. But
everybody knows a tax idea. Yeah,

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everybody's got their favorite tax guy on
on TikTok right now, right, So

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did you I just read a thing
in a Wall Street journal there's a huge

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crackdown on a very specific tax solution
that was very very popular on TikTok and

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Instagram this last year that it turns
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true. It didn't apply to everybody. But I guess there's been tens of

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thousands of people that tried to take
advantage of thing. None of them got

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expert advice. It was only from
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do not make life decisions. Well, it's going it's gonna cost people thousands

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of dollars social media in general,
right, there's going to be all these

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finds as a result of it,
and the Wall Street dreams talking about there's

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a crackdown right now on it.
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from there I asked to say and
don't do that is not true, right,

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most of you don't qualify for that
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get your info from. Yeah.
So, so you need a to be

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surrounded by experts in different fields.
You need a good doctor, right,

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YEA a general practitioner that has access
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uh legal person that you can lean
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I was just recently talking to a
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business and I say, hey,
I'm a pastor, I'm not a business

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guy. That's some ideas, But
the smartest thing you can do is go

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find a business coach that that is
successful. Not a business coach who's certified.

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Right, have finances. If you're
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somebody's really good at setting up business
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thing in our marriages. A lot
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And the worst person to go to
for marriage advices one has been divorced three

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times, right, go to somebody
who's been able to find a way to

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navigate the difficulties of marriage for forty
years and get advice from you know,

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what did you do? Right?
It seems so basic, But oftentimes we

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don't do that. We'll go and
we'll find a person who's been you know,

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divorced three four times, and so
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about raising kids, not from your

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peers. Get advice from raising kids
from somebody who raised kids like you want

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your kids to beat. Yeah,
right, And it's just it's silly.

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It doesn't seem like we would make
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especially now in the age of social
media. Yeah and friendship. Yeah,

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because of the friendship. Yeah,
I know they probably don't have the best

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advice, but I'll listen to him
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like, no, that's that's not
sound advice, right. Asking hey ladies,

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what stroller works the best is different
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I'm having this issue with my child's
behavior right now, and most of your

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friends haven't seen it. They just
have an opinion about it. Yeah,

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right, they've never experienced it.
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several kids and they turned out well, you go and ask those as from

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there, So having wise counselor is
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we feel like we're forgotten. I
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This guy, you know, Joseph
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and the guy just forgot about him
for two years. It speaks about Joseph's

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character. You know, God tends
to bless people who are choosing to make

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good choices in the good times and
the bad times. Not everything is a

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mountain moment, right, And so
Joseph decided, I care about the people

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around me. So he's the servant
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two guys come in, they're concerned. Joseph says, hey, let me

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help you out. Sometimes God gives
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help you. And he was just
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that maybe they could help him,
but he didn't know for sure, and

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it took a long time before that
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a great strategy for your future and
for where you're going. Usually it's not

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about what you know, it's about
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those relationships, I think it's really
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later, this guy did remember Joseph, and I think there was a life

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lesson in the fact that Joseph was
steadfast. He kept doing what he needed

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to do over and over, even
when he saw no progress. You know,

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there was no forward momentum. No
one was saying, Hey, next

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week you're gonna get out, Hey
next month, you're gonna He just kept

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doing what he was supposed to do. I think about that in terms of

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weight loss. Now, you got
to keep doing the same thing. And

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it may be boring, but you
got to keep doing the same thing.

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You may not like the way the
food taste, but you got to keep

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doing the same thing if you want
to see results, that's right, Or

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just keeping taking the same shot every
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here you go. You have this
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then he points out to Pharaoh that
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Pharaoh's not a godly man. Pharaoh
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decided to warn Pharaoh, Hey,
a famine's coming. You're gonna have seven

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really good years. And then you're
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suggestion was save twenty percent. Yep,

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save twenty percent of what you're producing
storehouse, and you will be ready

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to protect yourself for seven years.
If you save twenty percent of what you

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produce in the first seven years,
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There's wisdom in that, right,
preparing for the future and saving for

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the future and those things, and
so hey, he was putting away twenty

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percent. That meant that they weren't
able to consume everything they wanted. Yeah,

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right, they had to plan and
discipline there. Yeah, and it's

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very important to have discipline, especially
in time, in trying times, you

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know, when things aren't going well
for some reason. And you reference this

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earlier. As Christians, we often
think that Christianity is going to be twulps

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and rainbows and mountaintop experiences every single
day, unicorns and kittles. Yeah,

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I don't know what version of Christianity
that is, but I haven't seen that.

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So if you know where to find
it, let me know. That's

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not real life. Yeah, that's
not real life. There will be some

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valleys, but God will be with
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works. And so what God did
is God provides ahead of time. A

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lot of times we find ourselves in
a crisis and we blame God that we

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don't have what it takes to get
through. And God's like, I gave

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it to you a couple of years
ago. You just weren't ready for it,

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right, You didn't keep it.
You didn't prepare for for the future

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problems. And so we're always shocked
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tough days, preparing ahead a little
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to be in fear all the time. You don't have to be fearful if

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you're prepared. And so having a
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And then here you go the leadership
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the leadership and the servant kind of
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God used those as boot camp to
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command of all of the most powerful
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to that point. Right. And
so if we can look at the struggles

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and the difficulties that maybe you're in
a tough time right now in your life.

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If you can think of those things
as maybe boot camp for what God's

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really preparing you for. Just understand
each of those was a short season.

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It just took a few years.
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four or five years, it seems
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an eternity. So a lot of
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Joseph was about fifteen when he gets
sold away, and now here he is

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fifteen years later, thirty when he's
you know, being promoted. You gotta

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remember back then they didn't live very
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you know, thirty would be a
normal adult beginning to things. And Joseph

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had this fifteen year window of preparation. If you can look at it,

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preparation's worth it. Just allow whatever
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to be preparation for the thing He's
going to do next. And God raised

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Joseph up at the right time.
I heard a preacher a long time ago

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call this. It was a sermon
from the pit to the palace. Oh

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yeah, pit to the prison to
the palace. Whatever. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, that's great.
So there you go, and then

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Joseph is elevated and he does rescue
all of Egypt as a result of the

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wisdom that God gave during that time. But I love the fact that lastly

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Joseph didn't take credit. Joseph said, I can't do this, but maybe

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God will do this through me,
and he'll speak to you. And so

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we got to always be giving God
the credit for what he's doing in our

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life. Yeah, because it's not
us. That's right. Well, hey,

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I think that's a great place to
wrap up because we're going to continue

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this story tomorrow in the life of
Joseph. So thank you for joining us

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today and we'll see you later.