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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, good morning. We are the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And if you're wondering.

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<v Speaker 1>Why Jeff looks different he's better looking and younger and smaller, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is this is my friend Jeff, this is yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, that's right. Well, you know that's the nature

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<v Speaker 2>of mine and Jeff's relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is Kyle doab Meyer and Jeff is out

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<v Speaker 1>of the country with his lovely life wife Bonnie, serving

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<v Speaker 1>the TTI organization, the Timothy Initiative, which is awesome, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Kyle's filling in. So we're just thrilled on both fronts. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an incredible chapter. We're in the story of Nehemiah,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a Jewish person who is requested from King

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<v Speaker 1>art of Xerxes, as he was a prominent cup bearer

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<v Speaker 1>to leave his job, which was a cushy job, and

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and to organize the rebuilding of the

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<v Speaker 1>wall surrounding the city of Jerusalem. And so we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of that story. But Before we get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do a very strange segment.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I've never seen this segment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, last week Wesley and Jeff apparently or last week

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<v Speaker 4>they did do this and so okay, and then the

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<v Speaker 4>viewers liked it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is called guest versus AI. We played this

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<v Speaker 1>game with Wesley, Desiree.

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<v Speaker 2>Writes, and it was a hit. So let's see how

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<v Speaker 2>things go with Kyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris will ask Kyle the question, let Kyle answer, and

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<v Speaker 1>then ask Chet Gpt the same question. Compare answers and

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<v Speaker 1>vote on who wins, Kyle or Ai. Okay, dude, how

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<v Speaker 1>the world can you ever compete with Ai? Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose, so, but you're but you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna You're gonna do well.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see, yeah, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>So. And by the way, I've decided to, uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta climb up hill for this one, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>We go?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I'm nervous about what's in your brain?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Kyle?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle? It's not a big deal. Just it is not

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<v Speaker 2>a deal, very simple question.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just me versa that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Ready, what is the meaning of life?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, nothing yet, nothing hard at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably one of the hardest questions.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the meaning of life? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>If you go biblical you can no, no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna try to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna say one sentence. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 4>we asked you have on your phone? Yes, okay, you

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<v Speaker 4>got to ask for one sentence. Okay, that way I

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<v Speaker 4>asked it, what is the meaning of life?

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<v Speaker 3>Shoot? How long is this? Is it like a paragraph?

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<v Speaker 2>Though? It gave me four points?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Points?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say the meaning of life is to live

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<v Speaker 4>for a purpose that is greater than yourself period.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So no four points?

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<v Speaker 3>What God, I'm not yea. If I get one of

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<v Speaker 3>the four, I'll be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well, hey, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be that these four answers are sort of

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<v Speaker 1>summarized by your one statement. So here's what it says

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<v Speaker 1>from a Christian Biblical perspective. The meaning of life is

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<v Speaker 1>to know, love, and glorify God and enjoy a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>With Him forever. Okay. Number which, by the way, what's

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<v Speaker 2>purpose greater than yourself? Number one?

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<v Speaker 1>We were created for God's glory and then it gives

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<v Speaker 1>me Isaiah forty three. Our existence is not random. We

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<v Speaker 1>were made to reflect God's glory and character. Number two,

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<v Speaker 1>Life's purpose is found there's purpose. Life's purpose is found

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<v Speaker 1>in knowing God. John seventeen three. Now this is eternal life.

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<v Speaker 1>That they know you and the only true God, Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>from you've sent true life. Eternal life is not just

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<v Speaker 1>about existence, but about a relationship with God. Point number three.

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<v Speaker 1>We are called to love God and others Matthew twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty seven. The greatest commandment love God and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus something of the purpose of life in terms of love,

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<v Speaker 1>love for God, love for people.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally, the fourth one is our lives are

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<v Speaker 2>meant to bear fruit that lasts.

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<v Speaker 1>God desires that our lives have eternal impact through love, service,

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<v Speaker 1>and obedience.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me defend myself against AI for a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>He no, no, no, no, no no no.

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<v Speaker 2>I listen.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was seeking, When I was seeking this question,

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking like if if anybody in the world

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<v Speaker 4>Christian non Christian, would ask, what is the meaning of life?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought to myself to live for a purpose that

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<v Speaker 4>he was greater than myself as a Christian? What is

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<v Speaker 4>that purpose, right Jesus Christ right here? That that purpose

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<v Speaker 4>right there is to do everything you can to glorify

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<v Speaker 4>God and live for Jesus. But that was like that

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<v Speaker 4>obviously is such a better that what they just.

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<v Speaker 3>Described, way better, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I am completely with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have the same mindset as you almost always in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like like like. For instance, my mind always

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<v Speaker 1>goes for the person who doesn't know God.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Your statement is a statement that would bring somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>is clueless about the meaning of life, yes, and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>say no, No, it's to live something greater than yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a transition statement that brings that person into

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<v Speaker 1>a Biblical perspective. And then for the Christian who already

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<v Speaker 1>has the Biblical perspective, your statement then completely points that

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<v Speaker 1>Christian to God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because he has a Biblical perspective exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically what I just heard is the Bible guy

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<v Speaker 4>said that I beat Ai.

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<v Speaker 2>I like your answers better because it includes all of humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas whereas AI immediately went for the Biblical perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, yeah, I do think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>purpose of a Christian don't you think digging deeper? The

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<v Speaker 4>purpose of a Christian is to glorify God, yes, and

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<v Speaker 4>to lead others to christ serve Him.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, there's all those things. Those are the purpose of

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<v Speaker 3>a Christian. But just the meaning of life's that's what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was going for. Yeah, well here, let me just be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me be clear. AI got it right? A, I

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<v Speaker 2>got it right?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? His or her answer there? Their answer they them

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding? That was terrible their answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, their answer is definitely the right answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. But what I'm saying is I personally vote for

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<v Speaker 1>your answer because your answer meets people right where they're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas the person who's let's just say, like an atheist

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<v Speaker 1>who's sitting, you know, in disbelief and angry at God.

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<v Speaker 1>This answer is so on point speaking Christianese, that person

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<v Speaker 1>is going to shut this answer out. Your answer will

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<v Speaker 1>intrigue people enough to consider.

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<v Speaker 3>What's next or what's next?

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you what do you mean bigger than myself? Right? Which,

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<v Speaker 2>again I think your answer summarizes all.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, especially because the meaning of life oftentimes aren't most

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<v Speaker 4>people searching for the meaning of life within themselves. Most

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<v Speaker 4>people are thinking, if only I was happier. If that's

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<v Speaker 4>this is the meaning of life?

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<v Speaker 3>Is a family? Those are all great components of life,

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<v Speaker 3>but they aren't the meaning of life.

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<v Speaker 1>So and by the way, just like Ai, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>chet GPT is a good friend of mine. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is what they say. It says the meaning of life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. In summary, it says, in short, at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>the meaning of life, according to the Bible is to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a relationship with God through Jesus Christ, to

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<v Speaker 1>live for his glory, and to love others as a

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<v Speaker 1>reflection of His love for us. And doing so we

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<v Speaker 1>find not only purpose, but deep joy and fulfillment. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it says, if you're asking this for a sermon

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<v Speaker 1>or for a teaching, I can help you build it

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<v Speaker 1>out with points, stories and scriptures.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? Yes? Please do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Send message notes to Kdobbenmeier at Heritage Church dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, kidding. What is the meaning of life from

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<v Speaker 2>a Christian?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness, are you kidding me? Right now? Look what

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<v Speaker 2>it says. I didn't even ask you to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at look what it says't I won't read you

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<v Speaker 1>the sermon, but look at it says here's a sermon

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<v Speaker 1>outline on the topic, what is the meaning of life

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<v Speaker 1>from a Christian perspective? Styled similarly to Chris Zarba relatable

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<v Speaker 1>and engaging scriptures, centered and practical.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it tell a story about your brother?

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<v Speaker 2>Says?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, it says introduction hook start with humor. There are

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<v Speaker 1>two great questions, people asking life.

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<v Speaker 2>What's for dinner? And why am I here? Oh? My,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my, it does know me.

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<v Speaker 1>Illustration a smartphone doesn't find asad This is hilarious, given.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, it really does know me. It knows me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's goodness, gracious, I'm going to become obsolete.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I write sermons?

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<v Speaker 3>What are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>I write sermons and I'm becoming obsolete? Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's our time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's our time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's our time for saying hey.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I've realized that I the first three

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts of this week I forgot to do a horrible transition.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I'm gonna I'm just gonna say, uh, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of sermons, Uh, Nehemiah is living. He's a living sermon, Kyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that a terrible transition?

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<v Speaker 2>That's all right?

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<v Speaker 3>I like it this sermon he's living. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about Neamiah chapter six.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got some verses to get through here today, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'll get right into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Chapter six.

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<v Speaker 4>Sambalot, Tobaya, Gesham, the Arab and the rest of our

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<v Speaker 4>enemies found out that I had finished rebuilding the wall

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<v Speaker 4>and that no gaps remained, so we had not yet

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<v Speaker 4>set up the doors and the gates. So sam Blot

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<v Speaker 4>and Gasham sent a message asking me to meet them

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<v Speaker 4>at one of the villages in the plan and the

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<v Speaker 4>plane of O No. But I realized they were plotting

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<v Speaker 4>to harm me, so I replied by sending this message

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<v Speaker 4>of them, I am engaged in a great work, so

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<v Speaker 4>I can't come. Why should I stop working to come

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<v Speaker 4>and meet with you? Four times they sent the same message,

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<v Speaker 4>and each time I gave the same reply. The fifth time,

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<v Speaker 4>Sambalot's servant came with an open letter, a letter in

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<v Speaker 4>rumor among the surrounding nations. And Gashem tells me it's

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<v Speaker 4>true that you and the Jews are planning to rebel,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is and that is why you are building

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<v Speaker 4>the wall. According to his reports you planned to be their.

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<v Speaker 4>He also reports that you have a point of prophets

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<v Speaker 4>in Jerusalem to proclaim about you. Look, there's a king

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<v Speaker 4>in Judah. You can be very sure that this report

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<v Speaker 4>I replied, there is no truth in any part of

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<v Speaker 4>work with even greater determination. Later I went to visit Shemaiah,

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<v Speaker 4>inside the Temple of God and bolt the door shut.

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<v Speaker 4>Your enemies are coming to kill you tonight. But I replied,

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<v Speaker 4>should someone in my position run from danger, should someone

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<v Speaker 4>in my position enter the temple to save his life?

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<v Speaker 4>I realized that God has not spoken to him, but

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<v Speaker 4>that he had uttered hit this prophecy against me because

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<v Speaker 4>Tobiah and san Balot had hired him. They were hoping

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<v Speaker 4>to intimidate me and make me sin. Then they would

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<v Speaker 4>be able to accuse and discredit me. Remember, oh, my God,

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<v Speaker 4>all the evil things that Tobia and Sambalott have done.

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<v Speaker 4>And remember Noah Daiah the prophet and all the prophets

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<v Speaker 4>like her who have tried to intimidate me. Going into

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<v Speaker 4>the next section is called the builders complete the Wall.

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<v Speaker 4>So in October second the wall was finished, just fifty

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<v Speaker 4>two days after we'd begun. When our enemies and the

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<v Speaker 4>They realized this work had been done with the help

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<v Speaker 4>of our God. During those fifty two days, many letters

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<v Speaker 4>went back and forth between Tobia and the nobles of

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<v Speaker 4>Judah for many and Judah had sworn allegiance to him

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<v Speaker 4>because of his father in law with Sheknaiah, son of Era,

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<v Speaker 4>and his son Jehannin was married to the daughter of Meshalem,

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<v Speaker 4>son of Brekia. They kept telling me about Tobia's good deeds,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they told him everything I said, and Tobia

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<v Speaker 3>Letters to intimidate me. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>After the wall was finished and I had set up

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<v Speaker 4>the doors and the gates, the gay cap keeper, singers

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<v Speaker 4>and Levites were appointed. I gave the responsibility of governing

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<v Speaker 4>and Ayah the commander of the fortress, for he was

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<v Speaker 3>The most last verse here.

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<v Speaker 4>Says I said to them, do not leave the gates

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<v Speaker 4>open during the hottest part of the day, and even

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<v Speaker 4>while the gatekeepers are on duty, have them shut and

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<v Speaker 4>bar the doors. Appoint the residents of Jerusalem to act

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<v Speaker 4>as guards. Everyone is on a regular watch. Some will

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So first of all, fifty two days. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>just revel in the fact that, you know, they said

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<v Speaker 1>that the reason why their enemies and the surrounding areas

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<v Speaker 1>knew that this was a work of God is because

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<v Speaker 1>it is incredible that such a feat should be accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>in less than two months.

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<v Speaker 2>Less than two months, right, that is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And so obviously if it ended on October second, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been what August, September October, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>it had been August tenth ish something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>first week of August. So think about it. They're they're

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<v Speaker 1>starting in the heat of the day, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about you, but I went to Israel, and I went

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<v Speaker 1>in the summer of nine and we actually were in

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<v Speaker 1>there doing a great work with well a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually we were meeting with Bethley and Baba College. We

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to understand the whole reconciliation ministry between Palestinians

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<v Speaker 1>and Israelites. There was a there was a there was

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<v Speaker 1>a ministry that we were part of that tried to

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<v Speaker 1>bridge the gap. And then also we were actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to do a vacation Bittle School with Bethley and Baba

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<v Speaker 1>College in the center of Palestine.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, for those of you who.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, Palestine is recognized as their own region in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>So Israel is both called a state.

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<v Speaker 1>And a and so Israel is obviously filled with Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>people and Palestines Palestinians.

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<v Speaker 2>Are in the middle. And there is this great.

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<v Speaker 1>Wall and I'm talking like the wall is so high

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<v Speaker 1>that it blocks out the sun. It has to be

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know, but I want to say at

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<v Speaker 1>least twenty to thirty feet.

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<v Speaker 2>High, and it is thick, and it is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>And this wall goes all around almost the center a

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<v Speaker 1>region of Palestine, and there's a lot of talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, it's an occupied territory. Palestinians live in occupied territory.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, the Jewish War in the forties, the

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<v Speaker 1>Israelites were able to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Control back over.

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<v Speaker 1>So consequently there's actually Israelite guards at every city gate.

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<v Speaker 1>So whenever you enter in through the Palestinian borders, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go through the gates with these people who

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<v Speaker 1>are literally boarding your bus. So we had like this

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<v Speaker 1>bus of seventeen people and this girl walks on and

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<v Speaker 1>she's a the Israelite army and she's got this you know,

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<v Speaker 1>AK forty seven rifle and she's walking.

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<v Speaker 2>Up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just it's incredibly intimidating, right, And most

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<v Speaker 1>people when they enter in through this, they only do

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<v Speaker 1>so for one reason, and that is they go in

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<v Speaker 1>to see Bethlehem. Okay, So if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the Palestinian walls are the only tourist

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<v Speaker 1>site for Christians is Bethlehem, and it's literally right inside

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking like, you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Through the gate and it's right there because it's so

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<v Speaker 1>close to Jerusalem, and so that's what people do they

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<v Speaker 1>go to Jerusalem, then they enter in through this gate,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to Bethlehem and they come back out, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. People do not go up and travel into,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, the city of Palestine. So we

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<v Speaker 1>decided to go to the very center of Palestine. Hours

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<v Speaker 1>of driving right and we went up into right near

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<v Speaker 1>the big city of Jeanine, and we went to zabab De.

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<v Speaker 1>And zabab De had the most Christians of any city

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<v Speaker 1>in Palestine. And guess what, the percentage of Christians was

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<v Speaker 1>one percent and that was the most.

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<v Speaker 2>So we held a vacation. Yeah that's right, yeah, Muslim.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we held a vacation Bible school and we

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<v Speaker 1>had one hundred and twenty kids and they were most.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them, almost all of them were Muslim.

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<v Speaker 1>And we told them we were preaching about Jesus and

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<v Speaker 1>they said okay, and they left their kids. Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>put me in charge of outdoor games. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>outside in the summer. I was like July and it

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<v Speaker 1>was one hundred and twenty degrees one and twenty degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't breathe. I could not breathe. It was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>The difference between shade and sun was life and death.

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<v Speaker 1>And I originally I had planned like soccer and things

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<v Speaker 1>with kids, and I realized I'm just to get water

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<v Speaker 1>and just squirt everybody because that's all they wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, water games, water games.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all water games, right, all that to say this,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a long way to say that it was grueling.

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<v Speaker 4>Though.

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<v Speaker 1>They built the wall in the summer, right, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>over a hundred degrees heat, and he mobilized all.

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<v Speaker 2>The city villagers. So imagine this.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine he's saying, hey, don't let don't let your guard down,

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<v Speaker 1>even on the hottest days, right, and he's telling them

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<v Speaker 1>to basically work through exhausting conditions. Right, Sometimes that's what

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<v Speaker 1>God calls us to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, it is pretty wild because you think about this, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's easy for us to read this twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five hundred years later and completely almost because here we

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<v Speaker 4>are an air conditioned you know, a place where we're

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<v Speaker 4>reading this from and.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually forgetting you you you brought.

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<v Speaker 4>Me to one hundred and twenty degrees for that moment there,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're not working, you know, to work sun up

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<v Speaker 4>to sundown and to do that for fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty well a minute ago you said the studio was hot.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hot, yeah, probably what is it like cool? Seventy

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<v Speaker 4>degrees and a year the lights? Yeah, I was complaining

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<v Speaker 4>about the heat in this room. And it's crazy because

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<v Speaker 4>they work from some up to sundown fifty two days

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<v Speaker 4>straight and then they're on guard the entire time. And

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<v Speaker 4>then not to mention that, then Neamiah's got to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with all this opposition along the way. And then and

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<v Speaker 4>then you know these rumors. The sam Blott servant comes

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<v Speaker 4>with an open letder, creating a rumor essentially, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>even that is pretty crazy that he essentially starting this

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<v Speaker 4>rumor that hey, supposedly you want to become king.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna let the king know.

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<v Speaker 4>And now all of a sudden, you got to imagine

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<v Speaker 4>Neamayah is probably got all kinds of challenges internally mentally

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<v Speaker 4>that he's battling now thinking, oh, man, like, is this

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<v Speaker 4>going to get to the king? Am I gonna let

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<v Speaker 4>is it gonna he's Is he gonna think I'm letting

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<v Speaker 4>him down?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he gonna think?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>You just imagine that that guy not only you know,

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<v Speaker 4>had a rough go as far as physically the obstacles

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<v Speaker 4>he had to go through. But imagine he didn't sleep

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<v Speaker 4>very well, Like could you just imagine trying to sleep?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's probably exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, well, I mean knowing that your

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Neiamiah was so wise as a leader.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so far above and beyond what you would

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<v Speaker 1>ever expect from a cup bearer. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So, so think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to They're trying to defeat Nehemiah and his

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<v Speaker 2>So what do they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They try to mock them, They try to deflate their spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>At the beginning, they try to tell them it's an

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<v Speaker 1>as they recognize that everything is up. It says that

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<v Speaker 1>they had plans to attack them. Ne andm Iah found

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<v Speaker 1>out and posted guards at the lowest parts of the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>And once they.

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<v Speaker 1>Had learned that ne Andmiah knew of their plans, they

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<v Speaker 1>got discouraged, and God discouraged them, and so all along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. And then what happens once the walls are built.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're going, okay, how do we still get to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try to destroy his reputation. Let's try to spread

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<v Speaker 1>a rumor that he's building the wall to be king,

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<v Speaker 1>so that, you know, so that somebody else could come

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<v Speaker 1>in and take care of it. And then then then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, Nemiah gets advice from somebody that says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's retreat inside the temple because there's there's a hitman

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<v Speaker 1>squad coming for you. And Nemiah says, no, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to use that to use that as a bad reputation

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<v Speaker 1>to accuse me and discredit me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Neamia shows courage then, right, so you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been true, there could have been an

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<v Speaker 1>assassination squad coming after him.

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<v Speaker 2>But what does he do?

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<v Speaker 1>He says, no, I'm not going to do such a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should I do that? So every step of the

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<v Speaker 1>way me and Iah is understanding. There's two sermons that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about in my mind. Here's the one I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about currently, and that is there's some wisdom in

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<v Speaker 1>being aware that some people are just going to be

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<v Speaker 1>out to get you the whole time. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a pessimistic, depressing kind of reality, but the Bible does

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<v Speaker 1>say that we do have enemies. Right, the Bible says

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<v Speaker 1>that there're gonna be people that oppose to us because

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<v Speaker 1>of our faith.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be people opposed to us and reject us

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<v Speaker 2>and mock us and want us to fall.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what there is obviously we are to

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<v Speaker 1>act as Christians with compassion and love. But there's some

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom here in being prudent and wise and cunning enough

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<v Speaker 1>to know that there are just some people in this

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<v Speaker 1>world who, like you, want to believe the best of

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<v Speaker 1>who they are and their value of what their soul

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<v Speaker 1>is worth. But at the same time, don't ever underestimate

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<v Speaker 1>that God says there will be people who will oppose you.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is, by the way, this was a and

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<v Speaker 1>still is a very very very hard lesson for me

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<v Speaker 1>to learn, because my counselor after years, tells me that

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<v Speaker 1>one of my downfalls is believing the best in people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, how could that be a downfall? How

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<v Speaker 1>could loving people and believing the best of them?

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<v Speaker 2>How could it be?

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, well, you're confusing it for compassion, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my counsel. You're confusing it for compassion. You're looking

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<v Speaker 1>on the Christian side, the compassion the love side of it,

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<v Speaker 1>saying how's it downfall? But what you're neglecting is the

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom side. Right, Listen, there are clues. There are clues

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<v Speaker 1>that Chris, you should have caught on to that should

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<v Speaker 1>have dictated you walking in wisdom. But instead here you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the best in this person, and you walk

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<v Speaker 1>right into you know, treachery, enemy, enemy territory, not even

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<v Speaker 1>realizing that God says that there's going to be enemies

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<v Speaker 1>of your soul or enemies of your of your person.

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<v Speaker 1>So so it's a very very hard lesson for me

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<v Speaker 1>to learn. The other lesson, The other sermon that I

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<v Speaker 1>was alluding to before is, you know, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty degree heat. Thing is that sometimes God calls you

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<v Speaker 1>to work that is tumultuous, sometimes it's excruciating. Sometimes God

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<v Speaker 1>asks us to be faithful in things that are just

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<v Speaker 1>not fun at all. But think about it, Think about

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<v Speaker 1>everything that was at stake for me, Am I to

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<v Speaker 1>be faithful? Right, So he's asking his people, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stand by the wall on the hottest days when it's

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty degrees in the sun, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>let your guard down and stand by your homes. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, think about the individual person who's tasked at

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<v Speaker 1>the dung gate for instance, Right, and he's just sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>There going what am I doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Not realizing that his faithfulness is connected to future generations

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<v Speaker 1>of God rebuilding that area, restoring his people, building his

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<v Speaker 1>nation once again, ultimately leading Jesus to Jerusalem, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Where salvation is going to happen for the world. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this guy at the gate, you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>name's Bob. Okay, Bob's a part of that, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't even know it. It's what you said last podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you talked about your friend who's said they

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to work for the bigger picture

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<v Speaker 1>of God. Well, sometimes we have to realize God asks

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<v Speaker 1>us to do the faithful things because he has a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture in mind and there's more at stake than

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<v Speaker 1>we'll ever know. Yeah, and so and so be faithful

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<v Speaker 1>even when God asks you to do something that's discouraging.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and would also say, when you are stepping into

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<v Speaker 4>God's plan for your life, and hey, it goes back

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<v Speaker 4>to the meaning of life, which is to glorify Him.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that circle and leading people to Jesus. You

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be met with opposition. There are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be challenges, They're going to be enemies, they are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be internal opposition. Be prep for it, and

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<v Speaker 4>so beyond guard, be praying, be watchful, and then also

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<v Speaker 4>pray for others in leadership. Whenever somebody will tell them,

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<v Speaker 4>like I have people tell me like, hey, just you know, ky,

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<v Speaker 4>I pray for you every day. I'm like, wow, like

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<v Speaker 4>it's legitimately, Like like it doesn't that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you get that to some like that is

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<v Speaker 4>such a good thing to be prayed for it and

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<v Speaker 4>we should continue to pray over others in authority as well,

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<v Speaker 4>knowing that they're under attack all the time as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I want to give a shout out to some

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<v Speaker 1>who I know probably is not listening, But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a girl on my previous two churches ago. I've only

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<v Speaker 1>worked at four churches for any length of time, but

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<v Speaker 1>two churches ago, when I lived in Georgia, I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing college ministry and there was a girl named Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kelly met her husband there at my college group

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<v Speaker 1>and married James.

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<v Speaker 2>And they went into full time ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kelly, before she was even married, she came to

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<v Speaker 1>me one day and she said, God asked me.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, she's so.

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<v Speaker 1>Eccentric and quirky and wonderful, and she's one of these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of people where if she says something, everybody believes it,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's going to do it no matter what. And

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<v Speaker 1>she came to me and said, God asked me to

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<v Speaker 1>pray for you every day for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, what did you just say. She's like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. I said, what did you just say? She said,

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<v Speaker 1>and she looked at me with confidence and said, I

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<v Speaker 1>commit to you and promise you that I will pray

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<v Speaker 1>for you every single day for the rest of my

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<v Speaker 1>life and you will always be in my prayers. And

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<v Speaker 1>she said, I feel like this is what God wants

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<v Speaker 1>me to do for you. And so anyway, she bought

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<v Speaker 1>me a ball but for my Christmas tree. One year

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<v Speaker 1>long story, but I remember every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>every couple of Christmases, I'll text her and I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>her a picture of a ball and I'll say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we still got your ball.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so beautiful this Christmas ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And she says, I pray for you every single day still,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been twenty years since I've left that church,

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<v Speaker 1>and so for twenty years she's told me she prays

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<v Speaker 1>for me every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, Kelly legend right there, Legend, legendary moment, legend.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, that is our time for sure, and so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we will see you next time on the Bible guys.

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