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Okay, what do you want to see the clock is running right there three four five so we're on
we're recording right now On the Riverside application, right?

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So so right now you're you're making a recording with me, but We're not this is not a
remote recording because we're on one camera two people You are here.

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I'm over here, right?

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Okay, so we could talk for a couple of minutes.

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What do you want to talk about?

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I just want to talk about general.

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you talking.

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Lean back, lean back.

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There you are on the screen.

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Okay.

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What is in my mind now is just a short synopsis of the condition, the political condition
in the United States as it stands now.

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All So this is like a, so this is kind of like a political podcast.

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Exactly.

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And you're the host and I'm your guest.

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Okay.

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All right.

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And so you're basically having this show as a means to share with people your political,
your takes on political...

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take on the political...

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Agenda.

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Agenda.

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I'm on a political agenda.

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Okay.

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And I just want to know more or less what the world, how the world considers the United
States in their...

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uh thinking and the future, all the connection between the United States and primarily
Russia.

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think ah I don't understand the politics.

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What they say on one hand is one thing and what's going on on the other hand.

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Okay, that's it.

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And I want to know what your opinion is.

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And what's going to happen.

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Well, do you think that a lot of this is the

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You know, there's a lot of bitterness in Russia right now because, they're big because for
centuries they have such bad food there.

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The food is terrible.

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The restaurants are terrible.

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The people have nothing.

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They're bitter.

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They're bitter.

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They don't have better food.

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No.

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Is that the food?

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Is that the food?

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Is that the food?

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Is the politics.

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Okay.

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But don't you think the politics could be like indigestion from the bad food?

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No, oh absolutely not.

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It's a generalization of the politics between the United States and Russia.

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And ah frankly, I think Putin can very easily outsmart Trump.

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That's how I feel.

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sorry, but.

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Do you think he's got like a Napoleon complex?

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Do you think Putin has like Napoleon complex?

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Oh, absolutely.

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All right.

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So you think maybe if we can get him some growth hormones and he gets a little taller,
maybe he won't be such a difficult person.

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I think he feels bad about being so short.

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I think.

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Putin has extensive experience in uh world politics and in investigation ah and how people
think psychologically.

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And uh he's extremely shrewd.

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So my fear is that uh I hope Trump administration doesn't fall into a trap through
flattery.

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That's it.

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Yeah, but he's also isn't he I think he's in his 70s.

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What does that got to do with it?

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Plenty.

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Age always is an issue.

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Age is always I mean, there's many there's many factors in anything, but I always pay
attention to people's age.

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Okay, fine.

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He's in 70s.

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He's not going to be around much longer either.

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and as far as I know, he's functioning.

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Yeah, for now.

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as of now, as of now, what happens after?

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Yeah, but people

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What I'm saying is that he's in his 70s.

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We agree that he has a lot of influence and he's a negative impact on the world.

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We all can agree with that.

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But uh he's not going to be around functioning for a whole lot longer either.

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And you know that there's people in his realm who are in their 30s and 40s.

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who are counting the minutes that they can step in and take his spot.

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I'm always kind of interested in, yeah, I understand where they're at, but they're like,
have a certain shelf life.

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He's got a certain shelf life, Trump's got a shelf life, but I'm kind of interested in
what's coming behind him.

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So I think the interesting thing with Russia has to do with the culture is like, is the
young people, after he goes,

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Are the young people going to want to reform it to something else or are they very happy
with what it is and they'll support anybody who succeeds him who's like him?

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So it's very hard to say because, you know, the elections there are very rigged.

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So you really don't know what the real feeling of the people are.

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And it's pretty close society.

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So, you know, I don't know what's going to happen over there.

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I mean, he's got a...

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He's got only a short, you know, the guy who's kind of interesting in this little play to
me, you you've got the guy, the fat little boy in Korea.

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You've got this old, old guy who has very good hair dye in China.

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You've got the, you know, chin.

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And then you've ah got the big orange, you know, he doesn't have much shelf life.

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And Putin doesn't have much shelf life.

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By far the youngest person in this group is the guy out of Korea, which I think is very
interesting.

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So this guy's got decades, unless he has enough.

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What are you talking about?

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North Korea?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So he's the one who's, if his health doesn't unexpectedly fail, he's got decades of power
ahead of him.

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He whole, for that reason, he has a very different timetable.

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than all these other guys who are on their kind of on their last leg air.

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Most of the other leaders are fairly old.

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They're in their seventies.

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He's kind of, think maybe 40.

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And so that's something to keep an eye on.

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And so whoever comes into power after Putin and Trump and chin and all that.

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uh

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This other guy is already going to be a major player for a long amount of time.

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I'm kind of keeping my eye on him.

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He's actually, uh I think, shrewder than people give him credit for.

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The guy in Korea, So yeah, anyhow, but we won't be here.

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We'll be watching it from the grandstand somewhere.

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Yeah, the way I see it, the view that I see it from is that

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China is extremely aggressive in what they do, uh psychologically and possession-wise,
while people are doing crazy things like the United States is concentrating on deportation

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uh of people that we really need here to do domestic working.

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What?

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Well, you know...

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And you know, the United States...

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We're only told what they want us to think and believe, but it's like every other country.

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We're not any different.

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The real politics, nobody will know.

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Nobody knows what's lurking behind or how they're negotiating.

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I know as far as now concerned, the Trump administration has always negotiated with
Russia.

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And I think what happens is in between is a matter of uh

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not survival or where we stand politically in the arena, but it's all about money.

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Money, money, money.

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And Putin psychologically is very clever.

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He always waves oh to Trump, look, look at the money we could make if you do this the way
I tell you to.

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He's controlling his mind by flattery also that he thinks that

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Trump, you're wonderful.

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that's what he needs.

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Well, after your podcast goes viral and you have millions of followers, are you hoping
maybe to parlay this into some kind of uh job in the diplomatic core?

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Maybe you could be working, maybe...

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Is to formalize what I'm saying or just cut it off?

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No, no, what I'm saying is that if, after you're very popular on YouTube and everybody
can't wait to hear...

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about your political, maybe you can parlay this into some kind of job in you know, in the
foreign diplomatic corps.

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Like maybe you can work in Paris.

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What do think?

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still, have that in you?

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Do you have this in you?

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think you can?

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The only thing that's out of my mind now is that for everybody, live a full life and a uh
clean life.

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And uh you have to.

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weigh things in and out to make the right decision because, um, as far as information that
we get, you have to digest the information that comes because not all of it is true.

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Some is, some isn't.

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So you have to just declassify information that you believe in and, and, and

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Well, you know, this short conversation may find its way eventually onto the spiritual,
the Warrior Saint podcast, my podcast, which is always a conversation like this.

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your view in the political situation in the world, how would you tie what's going on in
the political situation in the world to some

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bigger message that maybe you'd like to share with the audience.

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That's a good one.

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So stuff is happening politically.

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That's OK.

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That's one aspect of the life on the planet.

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There's a lot of stuff going on.

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But what you're what you're seeing in the political realm, what have you learned or what
would you like to share on how that ties into some larger, larger world?

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OK, I understand what you're saying.

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The way I see it,

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It's throughout the ages.

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It's the old saying, is up will come down, regardless.

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This is my philosophy and that's the way I see the world.

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Up and down.

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Yeah, I think they call that gravity.

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And whatever it is.

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The law of gravity.

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I personally...

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uh

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recognizes uh the turmoil, uh what's going on, but I always maintain that you as an
individual are, that you as an individual have, have,

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what we say all the time, and the philosopher, Degas, you think and that's important.

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Whatever you think and you think for the best and you let the life go on.

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Let it hopefully be a healthy life and a rewarding life.

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uh...

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Yeah, I thought you made a very good point before, though.

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I thought, like, you made a very good point that you kind of, uh...

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did not uh dig deeper on because I actually thought you said something very profound
because these things that happen that people I think should pay notice to because

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everything goes in patterns.

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So you said something, well, everything that goes up goes down.

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And then I said uh that, well, yeah, I think you just said that you believe in gravity.

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Okay, so that's what gravity is.

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is just the thing.

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Well, it's just a terminology.

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Gravity is a scientific term for the principle that everything that goes up comes down.

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Absolutely.

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So, know, people, I think, don't pay attention and they accept that there's such a like a

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physical law called gravity.

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But I think I agree with you is that it applies to everything, not just like throwing a
ball up and a ball goes down.

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ah know, emotions go up, emotions go down, thoughts go up, thoughts go down, civilizations
go up, civilizations go down, everything that goes up goes down.

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So I think that gravity is a great teacher, a great teacher is that if you pay attention

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and you accept the physical law of gravity, that it applies to everything, including
politics.

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It does, I think that uh sometimes people don't, they want to kind of conceptualize this
very complicated truth, but actually the truth is very simple.

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But you did a very good job of articulating this.

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Everything goes up, comes down, that's it.

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We're cool, and life.

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politics, money.

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But we, that's one aspect.

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The other aspect is, uh Hari Nam, we used to talk about, you know, uh a principle.

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And to me, I take it very seriously.

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The principle is basically Descartes, Descartes, the philosopher.

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Yeah, she loves to talk about Descartes.

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And she loves to always say, I mean, this is her.

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This is me.

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Because we get into this.

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It's always.

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We get into this thing.

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So what she says is.

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See, you think.

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She says, I think.

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I Therefore I am.

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And I always say that's the most ridiculous thing in the I still maintain that.

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She still, don't go and hit the table because then you'll say.

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But she likes going back to the wealth.

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She likes her little comment.

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She likes going back to the well.

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So she loves going back to, think, therefore I am, but she really hasn't dug deep into
what actually it means and what the consequences, if it was actually true, what the

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consequences.

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So she likes saying it.

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So I'm always going, oh, look at the tree out there.

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so does the tree think?

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Well, maybe, okay, so.

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So if you're going, think, therefore I am.

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So if the tree doesn't think, it is not.

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Then it is not.

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It's not in existence.

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Okay, so somebody could say, well, know, trees think because everything alive has some
sort of thought process.

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We may not know of it, but they have it.

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I say, well, how about the rock?

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You think the rock next to the tree?

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ah Does that not exist?

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Maybe, maybe.

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Who knows?

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She's digging in deep now.

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She's digging in deep to support her thing.

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But the thing is, is that

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She's really against like a pro here.

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She's in a tough spot because I'm like a professional philosopher.

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So she's in a very, very tough spot.

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So she, if she says something, she's going to have to prove it.

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So anyhow, but I like she, but you know what?

237
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I like her competitiveness.

238
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She's got, she's very competitive.

239
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She's very competitive and she, and she's very, you know, she likes hanging in there.

240
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So I find that very entertaining, but at end of the day, she's going to lose the
confidence, the,

241
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the debate unless she can prove her point.

242
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really, she keeps her reading, but she really hasn't proven the point yet, but she likes
that comment.

243
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brings her back to her days in Brooklyn college.

244
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So we're all, we're all very happy for that because she's 97 years old.

245
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She's looking great.

246
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And it's, it's, it's these deep philosophical thoughts that have kept her young at 97.

247
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So, but she's doing very good.

248
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She just turned 97.

249
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She's already on her 98th lap around the sun.

250
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And so we have to give her credit.

251
00:17:03,994 --> 00:17:12,814
Look, if she looks this good at 97 going on 98 now, she must know what she's doing and we
don't know what we're doing.

252
00:17:12,834 --> 00:17:15,554
she's doing better than me, believe it or not.

253
00:17:15,754 --> 00:17:17,554
I'm 73.

254
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as you can see, you'll see other podcasts of this.

255
00:17:25,146 --> 00:17:31,568
We're going to do these a little more professionally as far as how we produce it.

256
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um Now this is a Florida, this is a Florida.

257
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Spam.

258
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Okay.

259
00:17:38,021 --> 00:17:40,331
This is called Florida Spam.

260
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I try to put her on the no call list, that doesn't work either.

261
00:17:45,514 --> 00:17:51,816
See, you know, we should have started this podcast a couple of years ago because we could
have had a comedy team here.

262
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basically,

263
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This is gonna be the least professionally produced, but I promised on this visit that I'm
gonna be starting soon this podcast called Warrior Saint that is basically every podcast

264
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is just going to be talking about uh everything and nothing.

265
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Whatever we're talking about during the day, could be anything.

266
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It's called Warrior Saint because basically that's...

267
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uh

268
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Ultimately the foundation where I'm coming from is that uh the greatest thing in life is
to be a warrior and a saint at the same time, to be able to live with uh absolute

269
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fearlessness and at the same time be very saintly, being very kind and compassionate to
others.

270
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So basically uh our lifestyle is a combination of being infinitely brave and courageous.

271
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and strong and at the same time being infinitely kind and loving and compassionate and all
that in one package.

272
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And hey, look, you know, I have this thing and I'm at this point, but look, she
contributed a lot to this because she's a living example of it.

273
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My mom, she's a strong, courageous person.

274
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She's a very kind and good and sweet person.

275
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it's all important to integrate these together and because of this,

276
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You know, has, she's very, know, her mantra is kind of that she's curious about everything
and everybody.

277
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still, and that's what's kept her young.

278
00:19:28,349 --> 00:19:34,749
And I can vouch, even though she's got, you know, 25 years on me, I've lived this way
myself.

279
00:19:34,749 --> 00:19:37,209
And you know, you're getting a little bit of it today.

280
00:19:37,209 --> 00:19:38,369
May I interrupt you?

281
00:19:38,369 --> 00:19:39,709
Of course, of Okay, thanks.

282
00:19:39,709 --> 00:19:42,309
She'll interrupt anyhow, even if she wants to.

283
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:44,249
But I have politeness.

284
00:19:44,249 --> 00:19:45,589
I don't, I don't.

285
00:19:45,589 --> 00:19:47,001
But the thing that...

286
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I always admired uh in me and others is curiosity.

287
00:19:54,816 --> 00:19:56,860
was, I...

288
00:19:58,496 --> 00:20:01,938
It, it kept me invigorated.

289
00:20:01,938 --> 00:20:10,842
kept me thinking because I was always curious about everything, starting with politics all
the way to music.

290
00:20:10,842 --> 00:20:22,529
Uh, and, and the AI is like, I don't fully understand it, but a little enough to know
where the world is going and how it's going.

291
00:20:22,529 --> 00:20:27,351
And believe it or not, I'm still interested in what is happening.

292
00:20:27,521 --> 00:20:29,402
not only here, but globally.

293
00:20:29,402 --> 00:20:37,719
So you're going on a 98 years old, so you're around since 1928 at least.

294
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Right.

295
00:20:38,069 --> 00:20:47,846
We all know this is uh basically a spiritual warrior uh podcast.

296
00:20:47,846 --> 00:20:54,090
obviously uh we believe we've always been here.

297
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We've never gone anywhere, we're always here.

298
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And so we'll say this, that her body has been here.

299
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,080
She's always been here, she'll always be here.

300
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:13,980
But for these, since 1928 to now, which is 2025, her spirit has inhabited this body at
this time and place.

301
00:21:13,980 --> 00:21:23,120
And so what would you say are the biggest changes in the world between 1928 and 2025?

302
00:21:25,187 --> 00:21:27,907
Because you've things on the people I've been seeing.

303
00:21:27,947 --> 00:21:34,387
The first thing that came to my mind is AI has...

304
00:21:34,387 --> 00:21:36,247
Yeah, but that's just happened a couple of months ago.

305
00:21:36,247 --> 00:21:37,107
Okay.

306
00:21:37,267 --> 00:21:37,727
Now?

307
00:21:37,727 --> 00:21:38,847
I'm just saying between...

308
00:21:38,847 --> 00:21:39,707
Generally speaking...

309
00:21:39,707 --> 00:21:48,767
Generally speaking, what is the, if anything, what are things basically in people the same
or do you think there's been like some substantial shift in...

310
00:21:48,767 --> 00:21:50,407
I...

311
00:21:50,407 --> 00:21:53,707
human nature is not going to change.

312
00:21:53,707 --> 00:21:55,127
I think...

313
00:21:55,311 --> 00:21:57,693
People aspirations are the same.

314
00:21:57,693 --> 00:22:09,462
uh think uh money has always been uh the object of how people think and how they move in
this world.

315
00:22:09,462 --> 00:22:20,331
uh I personally don't think that anything has changed, even uh scientifically innovations
and the AI.

316
00:22:20,351 --> 00:22:25,385
think basically people, character,

317
00:22:26,369 --> 00:22:30,500
does not change and it is what it is.

318
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It is what it is.

319
00:22:31,780 --> 00:22:34,061
And the world will keep on going.

320
00:22:34,061 --> 00:22:36,991
And I don't see any change.

321
00:22:36,991 --> 00:22:43,683
If I see any change, it would be in um the innovation sphere.

322
00:22:43,683 --> 00:22:56,258
And I do see, I do see our evolution taking place and we will have habitation, I feel, in
Mars one day.

323
00:22:56,258 --> 00:23:11,138
Very shortly, very shortly, because the things are going so rapidly that change in my
time, we take 20 years, change today is like overnight.

324
00:23:11,138 --> 00:23:12,938
Boom, it's done.

325
00:23:14,298 --> 00:23:22,098
the rockets, rockets is an indication.

326
00:23:22,098 --> 00:23:25,859
And I see the world that

327
00:23:25,859 --> 00:23:32,879
very shortly, maybe in 10 years or what, you will have habitation in Mars.

328
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,399
Will we find out?

329
00:23:34,399 --> 00:23:37,439
you think, yeah, but I, you know, we've talked a lot about these things.

330
00:23:37,439 --> 00:23:44,379
So I think a lot of those things are, are at this point very pragmatically possible.

331
00:23:44,379 --> 00:23:45,199
If, yeah.

332
00:23:45,199 --> 00:23:45,919
No, not if.

333
00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:46,919
I don't think so.

334
00:23:46,919 --> 00:23:51,479
I think, I think they're more likely than not actually.

335
00:23:51,479 --> 00:23:54,720
But the question, the more interesting question is,

336
00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:00,723
So you're saying, well, you know, let's say it's more likely than not that there'll be
habitation of horse.

337
00:24:00,723 --> 00:24:01,344
yeah, yeah.

338
00:24:01,344 --> 00:24:05,176
But the question is, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

339
00:24:05,536 --> 00:24:07,377
Only time will tell.

340
00:24:07,637 --> 00:24:13,551
You don't know, you can't, that question is ah a hypothetical question.

341
00:24:13,551 --> 00:24:15,401
Yeah, no, why?

342
00:24:15,482 --> 00:24:16,402
What do I think?

343
00:24:16,402 --> 00:24:18,013
Yeah, what do you think?

344
00:24:18,013 --> 00:24:20,654
that a good thing or that's not a good thing?

345
00:24:20,654 --> 00:24:22,445
Because that really...

346
00:24:24,468 --> 00:24:25,859
needs to proceed.

347
00:24:25,859 --> 00:24:31,321
This is the thoughtfulness that needs to proceed any technological advances.

348
00:24:31,321 --> 00:24:38,854
Otherwise, you're you're in ethical kind of backwaters here, where things will happen.

349
00:24:38,854 --> 00:24:45,146
And then you have to deal with the consequences that you've never thought of before you
let the monster out of the thing.

350
00:24:45,146 --> 00:24:47,007
You know, it's like a Frankenstein thing.

351
00:24:47,007 --> 00:24:48,977
You're letting it out just to let it out.

352
00:24:48,977 --> 00:24:53,259
But you haven't thought like, OK, well, what actually are the consequences?

353
00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:55,230
You're just doing it to do it.

354
00:24:55,230 --> 00:24:55,910
Okay.

355
00:24:55,910 --> 00:24:58,871
ah Maybe not such a good idea.

356
00:24:58,971 --> 00:25:10,956
do you think, so you're saying something that I think most people would agree that
inhabiting a place like the Mars is not unlikely.

357
00:25:10,956 --> 00:25:16,158
But my question is more, is that actually a good thing or not?

358
00:25:16,498 --> 00:25:20,460
Is that, will the consequences of that be?

359
00:25:20,460 --> 00:25:23,202
will that be, because we're aware, it's not gonna,

360
00:25:23,202 --> 00:25:25,843
effect like the lives of me and you?

361
00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:30,569
There are a lot of things involved with that question and how you're answering.

362
00:25:30,569 --> 00:25:39,517
First of all, climate change is not reliable anymore.

363
00:25:41,225 --> 00:25:42,005
Right.

364
00:25:42,005 --> 00:25:59,010
The climate change is not reliable and uh you don't know whether it will create flooding
in the end rent here or how the climate is going to be here.

365
00:25:59,050 --> 00:26:07,172
Let's say in 10 years, it may be too hot to live here and we have no other recourse but to
look elsewhere.

366
00:26:07,692 --> 00:26:10,683
And what I'm more concerned about

367
00:26:10,821 --> 00:26:12,202
are is flooding.

368
00:26:12,202 --> 00:26:28,014
The reason I'm saying flooding is because the two spheres, north and the south, you're
going to have flooding because if the climate doesn't change and it becomes hot, you're

369
00:26:28,014 --> 00:26:29,268
going to have melting.

370
00:26:29,268 --> 00:26:34,650
You're going to have ice melting, which is going to cause more rain and rain and rain.

371
00:26:35,551 --> 00:26:38,816
flooding is the first thing that could occur.

372
00:26:38,816 --> 00:26:42,536
So yeah, but even without even without.

373
00:26:43,696 --> 00:26:57,016
Drastic climate change, which I agree is is likely the the question really is more or less
more about survival of the species, because we've talked about this before.

374
00:26:57,016 --> 00:27:03,216
The planet itself is is basically on borrowed time that it doesn't.

375
00:27:03,216 --> 00:27:04,116
Oh, I agree with.

376
00:27:04,116 --> 00:27:04,776
Well, doesn't matter.

377
00:27:04,776 --> 00:27:05,036
I agree.

378
00:27:05,036 --> 00:27:07,536
I mean, the solar system will blow up.

379
00:27:07,536 --> 00:27:08,073
So.

380
00:27:08,073 --> 00:27:22,011
So the race, this thing, life as we know it as human beings, is going to continue, it
would have to be, at least in physical reality, it would have to be elsewhere because the

381
00:27:22,011 --> 00:27:35,712
planet actually cannot sustain what it, because life as we know it only can sustain itself
in a very narrow margin of temperature and humidity.

382
00:27:35,712 --> 00:27:38,392
and sun and various things.

383
00:27:38,452 --> 00:27:38,992
Well, that dies out.

384
00:27:38,992 --> 00:27:43,792
So for instance, even if the sun Well, the sun will die out, okay?

385
00:27:43,792 --> 00:27:45,132
Not if it dies out.

386
00:27:45,132 --> 00:27:45,772
will.

387
00:27:45,772 --> 00:27:52,752
It's And so even if the temperature didn't change, all of this is temporary, okay?

388
00:27:52,752 --> 00:27:54,372
So that's why I was asking.

389
00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:56,912
So you go to Mars, but you'll still have that issue.

390
00:27:56,912 --> 00:28:04,768
So it's going to be a question of if the race of human beings continues, it's going to be
finding habitable

391
00:28:04,768 --> 00:28:16,948
Places in the universe as time goes on because there'll be no escape in this solar system
They'll have to go to another system Do you do you think that the scientists are not

392
00:28:16,948 --> 00:28:19,468
taking that into consideration now?

393
00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:28,848
I mean thinking what's going to happen in the oh they they bet they don't they already
know that That's what I'm out even somebody in high school student knows that studying

394
00:28:28,848 --> 00:28:33,784
everybody knows that everybody knows that the Sun

395
00:28:34,153 --> 00:28:38,456
is a star and that stars basically burn out.

396
00:28:38,456 --> 00:28:39,977
everybody knows that.

397
00:28:39,977 --> 00:28:51,365
that the, getting back to our talk about gravity is that there are planets, but the
planets are kept in their orbit by gravitational pull towards the sun.

398
00:28:51,365 --> 00:28:56,748
But when the sun goes about where they're going, the stones just go flying out and
explode.

399
00:28:56,748 --> 00:28:57,198
Okay.

400
00:28:57,198 --> 00:28:58,930
So none of it.

401
00:28:58,930 --> 00:29:01,009
So the rock that, so

402
00:29:01,009 --> 00:29:04,101
It seems like we're talking right now from Florida, right?

403
00:29:04,101 --> 00:29:18,542
So if, you know, people here, they're in this illusion, they're living on some golf club
in southern Florida, but they forget that actually they're on a rock, little rock flying

404
00:29:18,542 --> 00:29:25,837
throughout a space with billions of other insects like ourselves until we're not, okay?

405
00:29:25,837 --> 00:29:28,992
uh But anybody knows that...

406
00:29:28,992 --> 00:29:38,652
that's not sustainable that eventually now eventually could be eventually could even be
millions of years, but millions of years is actually not a lot of time in in universal

407
00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:39,012
time.

408
00:29:39,012 --> 00:29:40,212
It's just a second.

409
00:29:40,212 --> 00:29:44,872
OK, so relatively speaking, this is not going to be around for a lot.

410
00:29:44,872 --> 00:29:55,831
So really gets the interesting questions about, you know, going to another planet and a
lot of.

411
00:29:56,113 --> 00:29:59,435
And you can see what's going on in the world right now, very divisive.

412
00:29:59,435 --> 00:30:02,625
They're going to be taking their divisiveness to another planet.

413
00:30:02,625 --> 00:30:08,371
So in other words, ah you you started off our conversation talking about politics.

414
00:30:08,371 --> 00:30:19,868
So if everybody is got political interests and divisions, and then the civilization has to
move to another planet, they're just going to take their problems to another planet.

415
00:30:19,868 --> 00:30:20,438
That's right.

416
00:30:20,438 --> 00:30:20,778
Right.

417
00:30:20,778 --> 00:30:21,159
Right.

418
00:30:21,159 --> 00:30:21,663
So.

419
00:30:21,663 --> 00:30:25,623
So they'll have the Republicans and Democrats fighting it out on Mars, right?

420
00:30:25,623 --> 00:30:28,363
So, okay, that's something to look forward to.

421
00:30:30,503 --> 00:30:42,983
But you've seen, I've been on the planet for 73 laps and you've been on the air for 97
laps around the planet.

422
00:30:42,983 --> 00:30:46,403
So you've even seen things I haven't seen.

423
00:30:49,223 --> 00:30:50,323
like,

424
00:30:50,867 --> 00:31:04,859
What would you, I think that people, one thing I've seen, just culturally, and this could,
it's not universal and it's different culturally and it could change back and forth.

425
00:31:04,859 --> 00:31:17,069
I'm not freaked out about it, but one thing is, and we've talked about this is that oh how
it seems that there is much less respect for both teachers and elderly people, that

426
00:31:17,069 --> 00:31:17,938
people, m

427
00:31:17,938 --> 00:31:27,120
don't respect the teacher and people don't respect people who've been here for a long time
and the experience and the sacrifice they've made to be here.

428
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:38,107
You know, they take it for what I wanted to bring out, Hari Nam, to me, what was very
important, and I lived that life so I could speak.

429
00:31:38,107 --> 00:31:42,489
I was very fortunate in having an attitude.

430
00:31:42,489 --> 00:31:46,390
If you have a clean, good attitude, uh

431
00:31:46,428 --> 00:31:49,260
You feel your soul is washed.

432
00:31:49,461 --> 00:31:59,769
I had the attitude that I just, and fortunate, that I just loved living.

433
00:31:59,769 --> 00:32:14,101
I loved just getting up in the morning and breathing and be so grateful that I'm here and
I have so much to live for to see my...

434
00:32:15,250 --> 00:32:25,275
daughter and son okay, they're doing fine, they're healthy, and my grandchildren, that's
all, you know, like, oh.

435
00:32:25,356 --> 00:32:28,057
So I was very, very fortunate.

436
00:32:28,057 --> 00:32:37,443
Also, attitude-wise, if you have a clean, good attitude toward life, you'll live to be my
age.

437
00:32:37,443 --> 00:32:38,003
I do.

438
00:32:38,003 --> 00:32:43,326
What do you think, I think people, the kind of person who'd be interested in this podcast,

439
00:32:43,942 --> 00:32:47,794
is looking for that kind of uh different view.

440
00:32:47,794 --> 00:32:49,966
So you're saying having a good- Philosophical.

441
00:32:49,966 --> 00:32:52,557
No, no, no, not necessarily philosophical.

442
00:32:52,557 --> 00:32:56,279
Actually just clarity, like a very straightforward.

443
00:32:56,279 --> 00:33:06,145
So you were saying that one of the things that's giving you, one of the keys to giving you
a good life is having uh a good, clean attitude.

444
00:33:06,145 --> 00:33:08,656
What is a good, clean attitude?

445
00:33:08,876 --> 00:33:12,658
That's up to each individual, how you look at life.

446
00:33:12,792 --> 00:33:24,048
And one individual may feel that uh they're doing the right thing and their attitude is,
and others will say up yours, you know.

447
00:33:24,048 --> 00:33:27,670
Right, but what's a good clean attitude for you?

448
00:33:27,670 --> 00:33:29,531
You're saying it's different for people.

449
00:33:29,531 --> 00:33:35,944
For you, so you're saying that's been a very important building block for you is having a
good and clean attitude.

450
00:33:35,944 --> 00:33:40,937
So what is a good and clean attitude for you in your my God, there's so many.

451
00:33:40,937 --> 00:33:42,077
No, your life.

452
00:33:42,077 --> 00:33:42,448
for you.

453
00:33:42,448 --> 00:33:45,026
Like you say you have a good and clean attitude.

454
00:33:45,026 --> 00:33:46,549
What do you mean by that?

455
00:33:50,715 --> 00:33:53,487
Like, what could you share with other people?

456
00:33:53,487 --> 00:33:54,267
Right.

457
00:33:54,267 --> 00:34:09,676
The thing that always kept me going was, luckily, I never had any feelings of being
jealousy.

458
00:34:09,676 --> 00:34:17,171
All my feelings, thank God, that I always, if I can be of help to others, just call me.

459
00:34:17,171 --> 00:34:18,381
I'll be there.

460
00:34:19,129 --> 00:34:33,373
And looking at life, it is what it is, and you have to extract the good more than some
people just look at other people with jealousies and why destroy your life when there is

461
00:34:33,373 --> 00:34:37,254
so much to live for, so much to live for.

462
00:34:37,254 --> 00:34:42,135
I felt that way and I think that kept me, you know, that I am going on 98.

463
00:34:42,135 --> 00:34:45,315
I mean, really, really?

464
00:34:45,716 --> 00:34:47,738
Good attitude, if you could.

465
00:34:47,738 --> 00:34:50,290
That is a gift.

466
00:34:52,192 --> 00:34:58,016
Even better than good, I think that you have a noticeably positive attitude.

467
00:34:58,016 --> 00:34:58,787
All the time.

468
00:34:58,787 --> 00:35:00,438
Positive attitude.

469
00:35:00,498 --> 00:35:04,582
So sometimes people have like a good attitude, but it's not positive.

470
00:35:04,582 --> 00:35:13,092
So it's good nature, good intention, but you actually, you know, there's an expression in
your cup is either half full or half empty.

471
00:35:13,092 --> 00:35:21,975
So a positive attitude to me is, you know, you always see your puppy in a again, positive
attitude is very important.

472
00:35:21,975 --> 00:35:32,957
But I think for me, ah what kept my brain going was I was always curious.

473
00:35:32,957 --> 00:35:42,020
I wanted to go crook and then I would then if I wanted to know something, I would go on
the computer and find out.

474
00:35:42,522 --> 00:35:45,253
curious knowledge, knowledge.

475
00:35:45,253 --> 00:35:55,717
I've always stressed education, education, knowledge, knowledge and good character, good
character, good.

476
00:35:57,058 --> 00:36:03,800
I think I went the cycle and that's how I felt all my life.

477
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,241
Nothing changed me.

478
00:36:06,241 --> 00:36:10,963
I've been that way since God knows what and uh

479
00:36:11,843 --> 00:36:27,193
So do you think that you were born that way or did you or you know it's like you you're
basically happy with the hold on she's happy with everything or life except for except for

480
00:36:27,194 --> 00:36:40,563
except for junk holes from from people trying to sell her something okay so that's what's
going on in the background here so okay so you know generally after uh

481
00:36:40,729 --> 00:36:45,582
you know, 97 laps around the planet.

482
00:36:45,622 --> 00:36:54,488
In general, uh you know, you come off as being uh very happy with your life and happy with
the package.

483
00:36:54,488 --> 00:37:09,298
And so, you know, and you've shared with uh the audience here that, uh you know, you've
always had a positive attitude and you've also- Could I emphasize what I mean by that?

484
00:37:09,298 --> 00:37:10,661
What I mean

485
00:37:10,661 --> 00:37:23,380
good attitude means I recognize that ah I can't be right all the time and that's why they
have a racism pencil.

486
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,956
I'm kidding you.

487
00:37:24,956 --> 00:37:25,262
But...

488
00:37:25,262 --> 00:37:26,322
ah

489
00:37:28,204 --> 00:37:35,688
I could truthfully say that I tried my best to bring up my children and my grandchildren
to the best.

490
00:37:35,688 --> 00:37:37,839
It may not have been the best.

491
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:41,381
You can't do everything perfectly.

492
00:37:41,381 --> 00:37:50,026
And I recognize that many times I didn't do or I didn't have the right choices, but it is
what it is.

493
00:37:50,706 --> 00:37:56,989
I meant well, but sometimes, you know, it's the wrong road.

494
00:37:57,994 --> 00:38:01,335
And I apologize to my children.

495
00:38:01,335 --> 00:38:11,740
But you know, you can hear is that, you know, we've all made mistakes, but the important
thing is if we learn from them.

496
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:16,381
That's, guess, the important thing is, you know, everybody makes mistakes.

497
00:38:16,381 --> 00:38:24,625
The people who really have successful, fulfilling, happy lives are people who've learned
from their mistakes and it's made them better people.

498
00:38:24,625 --> 00:38:27,946
And I'm questioning that as far as I'm concerned.

499
00:38:28,611 --> 00:38:34,973
I know, I know, I made many mistakes, I know.

500
00:38:35,213 --> 00:38:37,294
But at that time.

501
00:38:37,334 --> 00:38:43,825
But if she learned from them, only God knows, I think that's what we can say.

502
00:38:43,825 --> 00:38:51,898
but I, as an outside observer, I can vouch that I feel like she has uh learned very well
from.

503
00:38:51,898 --> 00:38:52,600
uh

504
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,534
many of them and she's grown dramatically as a person because of them.

505
00:38:56,534 --> 00:39:05,662
It's one reason myself, uh you know, it's like nobody's committed more errors in, this is
what I say about myself always, nobody's committed more errors in their life than me.

506
00:39:05,662 --> 00:39:11,186
I've committed an encyclopedia of errors, but I've never, I never make the same mistake
twice.

507
00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:20,078
And so I am very grateful for having made errors and very grateful for

508
00:39:20,078 --> 00:39:31,306
having as many faults as I have, they've really, um that's been my school, that's when my
education has been paying attention to how I can better myself.

509
00:39:31,306 --> 00:39:36,059
And I would have never had an opportunity to better myself if I was perfect at everything,
right?

510
00:39:36,059 --> 00:39:39,472
So you only can better yourself if there's something to better.

511
00:39:39,812 --> 00:39:43,895
So I've been very, very fortunate with that.

512
00:39:43,895 --> 00:39:48,298
um So, and then the other thing, so there's the attitude.

513
00:39:49,210 --> 00:40:00,250
And then actually, I think I want you to comment a little bit more about something else
you mentioned because I think I probably got this from you and, or largely when you talk,

514
00:40:00,250 --> 00:40:01,570
where did you get things from?

515
00:40:01,570 --> 00:40:07,310
This is something that I mostly got from you.

516
00:40:07,650 --> 00:40:14,750
And of course, sometimes you get something from somebody and you don't realize it like, oh
my God, I got it from that person.

517
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:17,518
But you don't realize it until like 30 years later.

518
00:40:17,518 --> 00:40:28,481
that somebody actually gave you a million dollars, you've had a million dollars, but you
don't realize that you weren't paying attention, that a particular person actually handed

519
00:40:28,481 --> 00:40:30,222
you that million dollars.

520
00:40:30,222 --> 00:40:39,464
So I have a particular thing that oh I'd have to say I primarily, definitely primarily got
from you.

521
00:40:39,464 --> 00:40:46,304
And that is this, one of the really foundations of the success of my life.

522
00:40:46,304 --> 00:41:00,290
and the fulfillment that I have in my life come from a very important thing that I have
that very few people have, but you have, and I thank God I got it from you, is that uh we

523
00:41:00,290 --> 00:41:03,881
both are curious about everything and everybody.

524
00:41:03,881 --> 00:41:15,296
And I actually, the truth is, people say that, but I can probably count on a couple of
hands, the people who I've met who are really in the Hall of Fame.

525
00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:19,364
as as being interested in everything and everybody.

526
00:41:19,364 --> 00:41:23,218
I'm definitely in the Hall of Fame and I think you're in the Hall of Fame.

527
00:41:23,218 --> 00:41:32,366
And I think that this is uh a big thing people notice in us and I think it's a big thing
that we really share with people.

528
00:41:32,507 --> 00:41:35,660
been one of the keys to anything I've gotten in my life.

529
00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:39,445
And I always, uh you I've been very fortunate that I get.

530
00:41:39,445 --> 00:41:41,826
in my life to teach thousands of people.

531
00:41:41,826 --> 00:41:54,892
And it's something that always comes up and I'm always encouraging people to open up,
their limitations, drop their fears, drop their hesitations, and just take it all in and

532
00:41:54,892 --> 00:41:59,614
be curious about everything and be curious about everybody.

533
00:41:59,614 --> 00:42:04,116
Try to understand everybody, where they're coming from.

534
00:42:04,116 --> 00:42:06,261
Try to understand what's

535
00:42:06,261 --> 00:42:09,684
everything available while you're in this short life.

536
00:42:09,684 --> 00:42:11,345
I definitely got that from you.

537
00:42:11,345 --> 00:42:14,047
I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.

538
00:42:14,068 --> 00:42:22,875
And uh I talk about it a lot, but I'm interested in what you would like to share about the
value of being interested in everything and everybody.

539
00:42:22,875 --> 00:42:25,607
Why it's so valuable.

540
00:42:28,547 --> 00:42:39,622
To me, the most valuable thing is to get up every morning and be so grateful that I'm
here.

541
00:42:40,222 --> 00:42:45,755
Because to love life is a gift.

542
00:42:45,755 --> 00:42:47,465
It's a gift of God.

543
00:42:48,797 --> 00:42:52,608
And the reason, one of the reasons is I love living.

544
00:42:52,608 --> 00:42:54,839
I love living because...

545
00:42:56,874 --> 00:43:03,345
I always felt I could do, what could I do more for my children?

546
00:43:03,846 --> 00:43:15,449
And I don't know whether I did it or not, but I love my children, I love my grandchildren,
I love my country.

547
00:43:15,449 --> 00:43:25,091
I just love getting up every morning and look out and see the blue sky and the green
grass.

548
00:43:26,675 --> 00:43:27,756
nature.

549
00:43:27,756 --> 00:43:31,418
It's just people overlook that.

550
00:43:31,418 --> 00:43:37,122
But to me, getting up each morning was a gift.

551
00:43:37,663 --> 00:43:40,845
It was a gift from the Almighty.

552
00:43:40,845 --> 00:43:43,647
And he's keeping here for some reason.

553
00:43:43,647 --> 00:43:45,468
I don't know the reason.

554
00:43:45,988 --> 00:43:48,690
I should have been gone long ago.

555
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:53,053
But he's still keeping me.

556
00:43:53,053 --> 00:43:55,831
And I'm still wondering.

557
00:43:55,831 --> 00:43:58,271
Why is he keeping me?

558
00:43:58,271 --> 00:44:01,171
Maybe he was keeping you to make this podcast.

559
00:44:02,991 --> 00:44:05,171
I hope so.

560
00:44:05,171 --> 00:44:07,151
It's part of it, I'm sure.

561
00:44:07,291 --> 00:44:08,111
see?

562
00:44:08,791 --> 00:44:09,231
Oh my God.

563
00:44:09,231 --> 00:44:11,971
is 97 years old.

564
00:44:12,651 --> 00:44:20,971
And the remarkable thing is, like I got up this morning, I looked outside and go, oh my
God, another day.

565
00:44:20,971 --> 00:44:25,671
And then immediately, immediately, I went to see the news.

566
00:44:26,155 --> 00:44:28,978
curiosity importante.

567
00:44:28,978 --> 00:44:29,958
Yeah.

568
00:44:30,057 --> 00:44:32,460
Well, I'm staying away from the news this week.

569
00:44:32,460 --> 00:44:33,722
I got to get better.

570
00:44:33,722 --> 00:44:36,663
And the news is not something that gets me better.

571
00:44:36,664 --> 00:44:38,386
I'm highly informed.

572
00:44:38,386 --> 00:44:40,117
I'll get there.

573
00:44:40,117 --> 00:44:40,878
I'll get there.

574
00:44:40,878 --> 00:44:42,849
I'm well enough to watch football.

575
00:44:42,849 --> 00:44:45,291
And I wanted to say.

576
00:44:48,376 --> 00:45:01,342
um I say that I'm so fortunate to have given birth to two wonderful children, and they
gave birth to two wonderful children.

577
00:45:03,163 --> 00:45:10,587
They're up, down, they're all, the road is straight and then it goes down.

578
00:45:10,707 --> 00:45:18,455
But when you start to look back at your life, the Almighty was there for me.

579
00:45:18,455 --> 00:45:22,635
Yeah, and he put you on a lot of good trips around the world too.

580
00:45:22,635 --> 00:45:35,815
Oh, that's a dead No, you've seen a lot of, you know, she, you know, now everybody's on a
cruise ship, everybody's hopping on a plane, you know, she started really exploring the

581
00:45:35,815 --> 00:45:38,615
world when there were actually very few people.

582
00:45:38,615 --> 00:45:39,455
People had the opportunity.

583
00:45:39,455 --> 00:45:41,455
And there was good food on the plane.

584
00:45:41,455 --> 00:45:44,295
And there was no security.

585
00:45:44,755 --> 00:45:48,075
And they didn't shove you into the plane like cattle.

586
00:45:48,696 --> 00:45:52,558
She went during, I guess, guess called the golden age of travel.

587
00:45:52,558 --> 00:45:55,099
I have to just extend that.

588
00:45:55,339 --> 00:46:01,843
The thing is that um I saw actually two different worlds.

589
00:46:01,923 --> 00:46:16,183
My world, which was very privileged because uh my husband and I, um my husband and I would
travel.

590
00:46:16,183 --> 00:46:18,844
when nobody was traveling.

591
00:46:18,844 --> 00:46:24,308
we did most of the traveling in the 60s, like 1960.

592
00:46:24,308 --> 00:46:30,811
And uh what a difference between then and now.

593
00:46:33,776 --> 00:46:35,519
Luckily, we were privileged.

594
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:36,722
We really were.

595
00:46:36,722 --> 00:46:39,176
But uh I especially...

596
00:46:43,206 --> 00:46:46,074
I raise two good children.

597
00:46:49,182 --> 00:46:52,664
Yeah, you must have had a third child because I wasn't one of them.

598
00:46:53,605 --> 00:46:55,606
That's not true.

599
00:46:55,606 --> 00:46:57,102
That's not true.

600
00:46:57,102 --> 00:47:04,821
I always wanted to be closer to my son and he had other ideas.

601
00:47:04,821 --> 00:47:06,552
A very difficult person, yeah.

602
00:47:06,552 --> 00:47:08,533
Not her fault, very difficult person.

603
00:47:08,533 --> 00:47:09,854
It doesn't matter.

604
00:47:09,894 --> 00:47:11,475
I know what you are.

605
00:47:11,475 --> 00:47:13,196
I know what you are now.

606
00:47:16,518 --> 00:47:17,889
And what was that?

607
00:47:17,889 --> 00:47:18,810
And you know what?

608
00:47:18,810 --> 00:47:30,768
Actually, it's interesting because as many of you know, I go to India quite uh often, but
she was basically in India probably 15 years before I went to India.

609
00:47:30,768 --> 00:47:31,809
yeah, yeah.

610
00:47:31,809 --> 00:47:33,590
And I loved India then.

611
00:47:33,590 --> 00:47:40,574
I thought it was the most fascinating country I've ever, and I visited most countries at
that time.

612
00:47:40,595 --> 00:47:43,957
My husband and I traveled when we were retired.

613
00:47:43,957 --> 00:47:46,158
uh

614
00:47:47,306 --> 00:47:53,330
Yeah, we disagree on most other things, but we can agree that India is the most
interesting country to travel.

615
00:47:53,651 --> 00:47:54,592
It's true.

616
00:47:54,592 --> 00:47:55,413
many ways.

617
00:47:55,413 --> 00:47:57,594
Yeah, in many ways.

618
00:47:57,594 --> 00:48:09,103
uh Interesting in that you saw another world and you could recognize how people live.

619
00:48:09,884 --> 00:48:13,547
And it was very disturbing, very disturbing.

620
00:48:13,547 --> 00:48:15,388
India was very disturbing.

621
00:48:15,388 --> 00:48:16,749
ah

622
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:26,549
and cruelty did exist between the British and the Indian servants, they couldn't kill us.

623
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:28,129
They couldn't kill us.

624
00:48:28,129 --> 00:48:31,029
And it is what it is.

625
00:48:31,029 --> 00:48:32,289
It was what it was.

626
00:48:32,289 --> 00:48:34,629
It's changed It will continue to be the same way.

627
00:48:34,629 --> 00:48:35,829
It changed quite a bit.

628
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:36,569
It changed.

629
00:48:36,569 --> 00:48:38,029
It has changed quite a bit.

630
00:48:38,029 --> 00:48:44,049
It's changed, know, it's like even I was in India a couple of months ago, we're in 2025.

631
00:48:44,437 --> 00:48:51,257
And I'd say that India is actually even quite a bit different than when I was back there
in 2023.

632
00:48:51,257 --> 00:48:54,977
And in 2023, it was different than 2018.

633
00:48:55,177 --> 00:48:59,197
also, everywhere is just accelerating.

634
00:48:59,697 --> 00:49:11,557
But you know, one interesting thing, and I think you could verify this, because you were
in India many, many years ago, is that many years ago, almost all the tourists in India

635
00:49:11,557 --> 00:49:13,197
were foreigners.

636
00:49:13,301 --> 00:49:14,862
Okay, for foreigners.

637
00:49:14,862 --> 00:49:22,907
But now actually, the vast, vast majority of tourists in India are Indians.

638
00:49:23,228 --> 00:49:30,441
And so there's a much bigger middle class and traveling is considered a luxury for people.

639
00:49:30,441 --> 00:49:33,254
Well, yeah, because a lot of business is done in India now.

640
00:49:33,254 --> 00:49:34,335
Well, not even business.

641
00:49:34,335 --> 00:49:37,687
Families, families, and they didn't have that.

642
00:49:37,687 --> 00:49:40,459
When I first went to India, I didn't see so many Indian tourists.

643
00:49:40,459 --> 00:49:43,241
Now it's like anywhere you go in India,

644
00:49:43,241 --> 00:49:46,674
There's just thousands and thousands of domestic tourists.

645
00:49:46,674 --> 00:49:51,187
It's really changed uh the landscape of the country quite a bit.

646
00:49:51,187 --> 00:49:56,661
I love going to India myself, but my stomach, my stomach sometimes is a little angry at
me.

647
00:49:56,661 --> 00:50:00,434
So I never, I never come back with the same stomach.

648
00:50:00,434 --> 00:50:03,116
So I'm still dealing with that.

649
00:50:03,237 --> 00:50:13,104
what's the, can you, uh what's the, the, uh what's the uh funny, can you think of like the
funniest thing you've ever seen in your life?

650
00:50:14,982 --> 00:50:17,293
I always ask people that.

651
00:50:17,293 --> 00:50:18,254
Generally speaking?

652
00:50:18,254 --> 00:50:20,085
No, not generally speaking.

653
00:50:20,085 --> 00:50:28,599
You think of something that was so hilarious that you couldn't help yourself.

654
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:30,260
I'm trying to think.

655
00:50:30,260 --> 00:50:31,150
can't.

656
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:40,648
I'll tell you, my attitude was always good, so I was amused by a lot of things.

657
00:50:40,649 --> 00:50:47,236
And attitude again, and the things that I was not amused about, ah I just...

658
00:50:49,852 --> 00:50:51,253
I just let it go.

659
00:50:51,253 --> 00:50:56,497
I didn't let it get into me because I would always say it is what it is.

660
00:50:56,518 --> 00:50:58,059
If I could change it, I will.

661
00:50:58,059 --> 00:51:03,543
If I can't, I get in again and again.

662
00:51:03,543 --> 00:51:18,335
If you would ask me what the most important thing you could relate, I would say the first
thing that came to my mind is attitude, your attitude to life, your attitude to your

663
00:51:18,335 --> 00:51:19,103
friends.

664
00:51:19,103 --> 00:51:25,778
your attitude to your children because that attitude has to be navigated.

665
00:51:25,778 --> 00:51:30,602
You have to know when to do something and when to back up.

666
00:51:30,602 --> 00:51:38,448
attitude, if you have the right attitude, it'll get you more places than you think.

667
00:51:38,488 --> 00:51:41,871
I think I had a very healthy attitude.

668
00:51:41,871 --> 00:51:49,016
And the reason I'm saying that is because I always had uh lots of friends.

669
00:51:49,285 --> 00:51:50,909
That's important to me.

670
00:51:50,909 --> 00:51:52,651
I had lots of friends.

671
00:51:55,888 --> 00:51:58,890
And that was my life.

672
00:51:59,268 --> 00:52:00,731
You're a very social person.

673
00:52:00,731 --> 00:52:02,272
I'll tell you what else.

674
00:52:02,652 --> 00:52:09,266
To have the ability to love and be loved.

675
00:52:13,428 --> 00:52:26,828
Well, know, we were talking, that's an interesting thing you say because, you know, you
were talking the other day, we were talking about compassion the other day.

676
00:52:26,828 --> 00:52:34,188
And now you're saying, well, you had the gift of being able to love and be loved.

677
00:52:34,188 --> 00:52:35,128
Oh, yeah.

678
00:52:35,128 --> 00:52:39,268
And you look around the world and there's all this like anger and hatefulness.

679
00:52:39,268 --> 00:52:41,972
But you know what, I've always kind of...

680
00:52:41,972 --> 00:52:46,592
I, you now that I'm older, you know, I mean, when I was younger, I really didn't quite
understand it.

681
00:52:46,592 --> 00:53:02,632
But now at a more advanced age, I kind of, and I think it's tied into compassion here too,
is that, you know, people do awful things and they, people say often awful things and, and

682
00:53:02,632 --> 00:53:06,192
there's so much hate and resentment in the world.

683
00:53:06,192 --> 00:53:11,985
But, but, you know, I'm really thinking that if a person has

684
00:53:11,985 --> 00:53:15,696
the gift of love to love and be loved.

685
00:53:15,696 --> 00:53:18,157
They have no reason to hate anybody.

686
00:53:18,357 --> 00:53:28,181
And the people, the people who hate, the people who hate, it's like, it's nothing about
that they're hateful people.

687
00:53:28,181 --> 00:53:29,902
It's like they're empty.

688
00:53:29,902 --> 00:53:35,104
They've never really loved and they've never been loved.

689
00:53:35,104 --> 00:53:41,206
And they feel this existential emptiness

690
00:53:41,606 --> 00:53:54,767
that causes anger, resentment, and hatred and all this, because if they're a person who's
filled with love, giving love, and is receiving love, why would you hate anybody?

691
00:53:54,767 --> 00:53:56,678
There's And that's true, I know.

692
00:53:56,678 --> 00:54:10,670
Yeah, there's no, and so I've learned this, and so it's kind of like, you know, I protect
myself, I don't let people take advantage of me, but if people do or say things that

693
00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:11,278
are...

694
00:54:11,278 --> 00:54:12,658
negative towards me.

695
00:54:12,658 --> 00:54:18,334
I don't take it personally because if they were really happy, why would they be attacking
me?

696
00:54:18,334 --> 00:54:20,946
I've never done anything to them.

697
00:54:21,067 --> 00:54:23,619
so I don't take it personally.

698
00:54:23,619 --> 00:54:33,458
And I've actually learned as I've gotten older to like if somebody's doing that, kind of
look at them with compassion, like, wow.

699
00:54:33,458 --> 00:54:38,343
And I don't try to give them a lecture or any, I don't try to prove a point, but

700
00:54:38,343 --> 00:54:43,006
Within myself, I'm going, they're so angry at me and they're doing this and they're saying
this.

701
00:54:43,006 --> 00:54:45,247
And I'm going, it has nothing to do with me.

702
00:54:45,247 --> 00:54:46,818
I'm a perfectly fine person.

703
00:54:46,818 --> 00:54:56,995
It's kind of like, what is it in them that's so dark and empty that they have to feel the
way that they have to feel?

704
00:54:56,995 --> 00:55:05,040
And I feel bad for them because one thing that I have in common with them is that every
night we both go to sleep.

705
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,178
So I go to sleep and I sleep like a baby.

706
00:55:08,178 --> 00:55:11,858
And they can't go to sleep, I know that.

707
00:55:12,298 --> 00:55:20,518
So they can't go to sleep because they're tormented with what they don't have, but what
they don't have is love and be loved.

708
00:55:20,518 --> 00:55:24,498
Yeah, but we all go through different stages.

709
00:55:24,718 --> 00:55:35,918
Now, I think your attitude to your mom is a little bit more compassionate, but there was a
time where there was friction, which is a normal way.

710
00:55:35,918 --> 00:55:38,078
I mean, it's not un-normal.

711
00:55:38,116 --> 00:55:43,001
It happens all the time, but the end result is...

712
00:55:44,690 --> 00:55:48,170
What did we learn through our mistakes?

713
00:55:48,830 --> 00:55:49,890
And that's it.

714
00:55:49,890 --> 00:55:53,210
And I could have been much better.

715
00:55:53,210 --> 00:56:05,290
But I don't have, you know, I always, you know, one thing I've learned, and we've talked
about this getting older in life, is that in most cases, it's nobody's fault and

716
00:56:05,290 --> 00:56:07,070
everybody's just trying their best.

717
00:56:07,070 --> 00:56:09,950
And that's the best they can do at that time.

718
00:56:09,950 --> 00:56:11,950
And then you get challenged.

719
00:56:11,950 --> 00:56:14,034
This is why I like challenges.

720
00:56:14,034 --> 00:56:15,594
This is why I like friction.

721
00:56:15,594 --> 00:56:17,474
This is why I like conflict.

722
00:56:17,514 --> 00:56:23,554
that it makes you, mean, conflict, friction, challenges makes you feel uncomfortable.

723
00:56:23,674 --> 00:56:26,294
And you don't want to be uncomfortable forever.

724
00:56:26,294 --> 00:56:36,814
So if you want to be less uncomfortable, you have to look at your own part in that thing
because you have no control over the other person.

725
00:56:36,814 --> 00:56:38,874
You only have control over yourself.

726
00:56:38,874 --> 00:56:40,934
So yeah, so.

727
00:56:42,001 --> 00:56:44,701
I don't actually have any regrets.

728
00:56:44,741 --> 00:56:47,621
just am happy.

729
00:56:47,621 --> 00:56:52,921
I'm just grateful that I found my way to where I need to be.

730
00:56:52,921 --> 00:56:59,421
And I'm grateful for the inner resources that I have to do my part in it.

731
00:56:59,421 --> 00:57:08,421
And I'm really grateful to you and all the other important people in my life who've had
some peace in this.

732
00:57:10,121 --> 00:57:11,921
I've got to the point that

733
00:57:11,921 --> 00:57:16,341
Um, I basically see myself as not even existing.

734
00:57:16,341 --> 00:57:18,861
I'm as an individual entity.

735
00:57:18,861 --> 00:57:23,621
I, I'm a product of everything that's kind of fed me.

736
00:57:23,621 --> 00:57:37,621
My, my parents, the good experiences, the bad experiences, the marriages, the divorces,
the, my spiritual teacher, my religion, all these different things have kind of come

737
00:57:37,621 --> 00:57:41,079
together to bake a very delicious cake.

738
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:43,250
and I'm very happy eating that cake.

739
00:57:43,250 --> 00:57:50,352
uh But the thing is I realized that none of this actually belongs to me, nothing, zero.

740
00:57:50,352 --> 00:57:56,413
It's like it's not mine, I don't own any of this, it's stuff that's just kind of come
through with me.

741
00:57:56,413 --> 00:58:10,447
And to the fact that, and I said this earlier, that the fact that I'm one of the few
people that truly is unbelievably curious in everything and everybody, I...

742
00:58:10,447 --> 00:58:12,598
was able to You got that from me?

743
00:58:12,598 --> 00:58:15,718
Well, I learned that from definitely.

744
00:58:15,718 --> 00:58:16,959
You're the master.

745
00:58:16,959 --> 00:58:19,219
And I learned that from the master.

746
00:58:19,219 --> 00:58:20,959
And it just was natural.

747
00:58:20,959 --> 00:58:22,760
And it never got out of me.

748
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:29,641
And I actually even developed it more to the point that it was like a hydrogen bomb.

749
00:58:30,802 --> 00:58:33,262
that's how I am 24-7.

750
00:58:33,262 --> 00:58:39,704
uh But that's what I'm saying is that it's not, I don't own that.

751
00:58:40,452 --> 00:58:46,327
I mean, that was a gift she gave me, but it doesn't belong to me.

752
00:58:46,327 --> 00:58:51,301
It's for me to take it from her and to pass it on to other people.

753
00:58:51,301 --> 00:59:05,723
That's the important thing, is that it's so valuable what she taught me, but what's even
more valuable is that I don't keep it to myself, that I inspire other people that this is

754
00:59:05,723 --> 00:59:09,356
the best way to live, to be interested in everything and everybody.

755
00:59:09,356 --> 00:59:16,321
It's really one of the keys to living a fulfilling life, to living an expansive life.

756
00:59:16,322 --> 00:59:21,156
And hey, know, God just gave me the tools I need.

757
00:59:21,156 --> 00:59:23,408
God provided me with the mother I needed.

758
00:59:23,408 --> 00:59:28,892
Another mother wanted to give me this curiosity, and so that mother gave it to me.

759
00:59:28,892 --> 00:59:38,820
I didn't give her her due credit for decades for it, but it doesn't matter because in the
end, she's gotten, as you can hear, due credit.

760
00:59:38,838 --> 00:59:46,911
And which due credit means is that 100 % of the credit belongs to her and 0 % belongs to
me.

761
00:59:46,911 --> 00:59:50,613
So basically I'm just gratefully accepting it.

762
00:59:50,613 --> 00:59:53,764
And I hope in my lifetime I've helped others.

763
00:59:53,764 --> 01:00:07,663
Be honest, and I must have had negative areas, which is normal because we're not all
correct all the time and we're not wrong all the time.

764
01:00:07,663 --> 01:00:10,943
but no one could be 100 % right all the time.

765
01:00:10,943 --> 01:00:18,463
So I might have done things that were not that affirmative.

766
01:00:18,463 --> 01:00:28,023
You know, I learned one thing from, we have the Daily Sikh prayer every day is called the
Ardas.

767
01:00:28,023 --> 01:00:34,603
And those of you who are familiar with the Ardas, the Daily Sikh prayer, there's a line in
there.

768
01:00:34,603 --> 01:00:36,281
And it took me,

769
01:00:36,281 --> 01:00:43,373
You know, you could do these prayers just kind of like a ritualistic, but actually there's
a lot of wisdom in there.

770
01:00:43,373 --> 01:00:46,734
And sometimes it takes years to kind of absorb it.

771
01:00:46,734 --> 01:00:57,157
But one of the most important lines in the Ardaas is that, and of course the Ardaas you're
talking with God and you're asking God for certain things.

772
01:00:57,157 --> 01:01:06,239
So one of the most important things in the Ardaas is that you're asking God for the
strength to overlook the shortcomings of others.

773
01:01:06,487 --> 01:01:10,370
Okay, that you overlook and forget.

774
01:01:10,530 --> 01:01:22,981
You're actually this part of the prayer, God, help me overlook and forget the shortcomings
of others and that I only put my attention on being a better person myself.

775
01:01:22,981 --> 01:01:25,343
And it took me a long time.

776
01:01:25,343 --> 01:01:29,066
It took me a long time to kind of absorb that teaching.

777
01:01:29,066 --> 01:01:30,967
But now what's very much in me is that

778
01:01:30,967 --> 01:01:37,793
I don't, I'm aware of it, but you know, it's like, I'm aware of the shortcomings of the
people around me.

779
01:01:37,793 --> 01:01:42,556
I'm aware of my own shortcomings, but that's not where my attention is.

780
01:01:42,556 --> 01:01:53,004
My attention is actually seeing the strengths in other people and helping them develop
those strengths so they can have As well as their weaknesses.

781
01:01:53,005 --> 01:01:54,686
No, but I don't actually do that.

782
01:01:54,686 --> 01:01:57,808
I don't actually point out to them their weaknesses.

783
01:01:57,808 --> 01:01:59,480
I don't actually get involved in it.

784
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,078
I am...

785
01:02:00,078 --> 01:02:11,840
confident that by concentrating, I'm not ignoring it, it's just kind of like they're aware
of it on some level and it's very uh painful that.

786
01:02:14,952 --> 01:02:17,244
it's no spam.

787
01:02:17,565 --> 01:02:26,832
Yeah, so I'm aware of people's weaknesses and um I don't have to shove it in their face.

788
01:02:26,832 --> 01:02:31,236
They know on some level and it's painful to them.

789
01:02:31,236 --> 01:02:39,152
I'm trying to give them the message like they know that I'm aware and I'm not going to
remind them of that.

790
01:02:39,152 --> 01:02:41,024
You're going to judge them.

791
01:02:41,024 --> 01:02:44,054
Yeah, and I'm not going to remind

792
01:02:44,054 --> 01:02:45,895
There's no need to remind them.

793
01:02:45,895 --> 01:02:48,576
They're already painfully aware of that.

794
01:02:48,576 --> 01:03:04,454
What I want to show them is that I can actually see their unique strengths and I'm
encouraging them to utilize them and that if they think well of me, I want them to know

795
01:03:04,454 --> 01:03:06,766
that I believe in them.

796
01:03:06,766 --> 01:03:07,786
I admire them.

797
01:03:07,786 --> 01:03:08,887
I believe in them.

798
01:03:08,887 --> 01:03:14,027
And the way that I do it is basically showing them that I recognize

799
01:03:14,027 --> 01:03:24,641
What other people don't want to see is that they have strengths and they have qualities
and I can see them and I believe in them and I encourage them to do that.

800
01:03:24,641 --> 01:03:38,857
And I had that in my own life, you know, like everyone else, I had strengths, I had
weaknesses, but I was overly distracted by feeling bad about my weaknesses and I wasn't

801
01:03:38,857 --> 01:03:43,763
giving myself enough acknowledgement of what actually I was.

802
01:03:43,763 --> 01:03:45,434
sent here to do.

803
01:03:45,434 --> 01:03:55,102
And so God sent me here to do things, but I would not be able to do those things if I did
not admit what I have to offer.

804
01:03:55,102 --> 01:04:01,189
And so I finally acknowledged that, not in a light, light, light, unhumble way.

805
01:04:01,189 --> 01:04:03,818
It's just like, yeah, yeah, these are my challenges.

806
01:04:03,818 --> 01:04:06,390
These are, these are my strengths.

807
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:10,869
I got them from God and other people and I'm going to.

808
01:04:10,869 --> 01:04:14,461
maximize those strengths to make the lives of other people better, right?

809
01:04:14,461 --> 01:04:34,852
those things, but this piece again is, you know, if in her life nobody got anything else,
I personally think the great gift that the person sitting next to me really brought in

810
01:04:34,852 --> 01:04:40,750
this world is that, you know, I'm not talking about like a general de Qualle, I'm talking
about

811
01:04:40,750 --> 01:04:42,090
a one percent there.

812
01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:50,090
I'm talking about somebody in the one percent, very rare, that was interested in
everything and everyone.

813
01:04:50,090 --> 01:04:58,990
And I'm saying that a lot of people don't understand how rare that is.

814
01:04:58,990 --> 01:05:04,350
And a lot of people don't understand that it's one of the secrets to a good life.

815
01:05:04,350 --> 01:05:07,133
So she basically is the queen.

816
01:05:07,133 --> 01:05:10,795
of something that's one of the secrets of having a good life.

817
01:05:10,795 --> 01:05:15,536
And I think consciously or unconsciously people picked up on it, you know?

818
01:05:15,536 --> 01:05:27,061
And then the other one that goes along with it is that, you know, interested in everything
and everybody, but also having like an unending appetite for life itself.

819
01:05:27,681 --> 01:05:31,833
And so these two things together are like infectious.

820
01:05:31,833 --> 01:05:37,165
So everybody's going to gravitate towards her and you could see why.

821
01:05:37,451 --> 01:05:48,812
But they don't know, see the thing is that I know what the other people don't know is that
they're gravitating to her, but they don't know why they know it's her personality, it's

822
01:05:48,812 --> 01:05:49,633
this and this.

823
01:05:49,633 --> 01:05:54,797
But the really thing is, is that she's a beacon of life.

824
01:05:54,838 --> 01:05:56,259
She's a beacon of light.

825
01:05:56,259 --> 01:05:57,421
That's true.

826
01:05:57,421 --> 01:05:59,393
She's interested in everybody.

827
01:05:59,393 --> 01:05:59,923
That's true.

828
01:05:59,923 --> 01:06:02,061
She's interested in everything.

829
01:06:02,061 --> 01:06:05,141
and she's absolutely in love with life itself.

830
01:06:05,141 --> 01:06:10,601
So who wouldn't want to be around a person like this when 95 % of the people can't do
that.

831
01:06:10,601 --> 01:06:16,861
But I also were fortunate in life that I married the right man.

832
01:06:16,861 --> 01:06:18,161
That's a big thing too.

833
01:06:18,161 --> 01:06:21,461
That's a big thing for two reasons, two reasons.

834
01:06:24,045 --> 01:06:28,905
One is because to be loved.

835
01:06:30,636 --> 01:06:36,276
by your spouse completely, unquestionably.

836
01:06:36,276 --> 01:06:38,096
I had that.

837
01:06:38,096 --> 01:06:51,856
And that must be a gift of God because that to me is the culmination of living the best
life you could.

838
01:06:52,196 --> 01:06:54,736
I have my husband.

839
01:06:59,173 --> 01:07:02,326
He was my appendage.

840
01:07:02,326 --> 01:07:03,538
He was part of me.

841
01:07:03,538 --> 01:07:10,014
And I know my son is that way with his wife, and he better be.

842
01:07:16,656 --> 01:07:20,200
I had the best

843
01:07:22,155 --> 01:07:24,542
to me to be loved.

844
01:07:26,325 --> 01:07:28,838
Completely unquestionably.

845
01:07:30,869 --> 01:07:34,721
You know what your father used to do when he introduced me?

846
01:07:35,041 --> 01:07:41,585
He just didn't say, this is Helene, but he would say, this is my wife.

847
01:07:42,145 --> 01:07:44,056
And I will never remember that.

848
01:07:44,056 --> 01:07:46,187
I will never forget that.

849
01:07:46,188 --> 01:07:52,190
No matter where we went, he was, he was so proud of me.

850
01:07:52,611 --> 01:08:00,191
But more importantly, Harinam, to be loved by that, the unc-

851
01:08:00,191 --> 01:08:01,160
waste

852
01:08:02,941 --> 01:08:07,057
In other words, my husband, I was his life.

853
01:08:08,812 --> 01:08:12,192
Yeah, that I can't think I don't think that's fair to say.

854
01:08:12,192 --> 01:08:13,212
That is true.

855
01:08:13,212 --> 01:08:14,392
That is fair to say.

856
01:08:14,392 --> 01:08:16,552
Everything he did, he did for you.

857
01:08:16,552 --> 01:08:17,652
That is fair to say.

858
01:08:17,652 --> 01:08:18,612
Exactly, exactly.

859
01:08:18,612 --> 01:08:19,952
Nobody else.

860
01:08:19,952 --> 01:08:22,752
I mean, I came before his children.

861
01:08:22,752 --> 01:08:24,832
Yeah, no, which should be that way.

862
01:08:24,832 --> 01:08:28,232
But I'm just trying to tell you, your dad...

863
01:08:28,232 --> 01:08:31,852
You know, it's sad to see there's so few marriages like that anymore.

864
01:08:31,852 --> 01:08:32,612
Yeah, yeah.

865
01:08:32,612 --> 01:08:37,067
Your dad loved me completely, completely.

866
01:08:37,067 --> 01:08:41,367
Not only did he love me, but he was so proud of me.

867
01:08:41,367 --> 01:08:43,587
He would go, this is my wife.

868
01:08:43,587 --> 01:08:46,967
I mean, I would say to him, hey, take it easy.

869
01:08:47,787 --> 01:08:51,307
I have folks like everybody else, it's okay.

870
01:08:52,147 --> 01:08:57,307
Well, I'm going to, you now anybody watching this is going to be in tears.

871
01:08:57,307 --> 01:08:59,847
You got the tissues out here.

872
01:09:01,687 --> 01:09:06,167
They should live a positive.

873
01:09:07,627 --> 01:09:16,811
positive life and live here because it's a gift of God.

874
01:09:16,891 --> 01:09:27,155
If you take advantage of what God has given you, He's giving you the sky, the sun, the
grass.

875
01:09:27,295 --> 01:09:27,736
Oh.

876
01:09:27,736 --> 01:09:28,901
Yeah, open your eyes.

877
01:09:28,901 --> 01:09:29,937
And you know what?

878
01:09:29,937 --> 01:09:31,057
I mean this.

879
01:09:31,057 --> 01:09:33,287
I said this to you before.

880
01:09:33,287 --> 01:09:36,209
I would get up every morning

881
01:09:37,235 --> 01:09:45,590
look outside and see the green grass and the blue sky and go, thank you, thank you, thank
you.

882
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:49,473
Yeah, thank you because you didn't do anything to me.

883
01:09:49,473 --> 01:09:52,705
It was all just, you know, it's all for free.

884
01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:54,977
It's not that it's free.

885
01:09:54,977 --> 01:09:57,548
It's just you have to have it.

886
01:09:58,289 --> 01:10:00,130
You have to appreciate.

887
01:10:00,130 --> 01:10:01,331
You have to appreciate.

888
01:10:01,331 --> 01:10:02,492
You have to appreciate.

889
01:10:02,492 --> 01:10:04,253
Yeah, not take it for granted.

890
01:10:04,253 --> 01:10:06,442
Well, thanks for your, I'm going to.

891
01:10:06,442 --> 01:10:07,623
It's been about an hour.

892
01:10:07,623 --> 01:10:11,727
I don't know when we're going to put this on, but I think I'm just going to...

893
01:10:11,727 --> 01:10:23,118
I just want to conclude by saying, Harry and I are going to have the ups and downs, but
seeing my son, he's just what I prayed for.

894
01:10:23,118 --> 01:10:29,904
uh I prayed for good children, and I think I got them from both of my children.

895
01:10:33,340 --> 01:10:36,796
I wish I could go around the Good job.

896
01:10:36,918 --> 01:10:39,644
you know, lot of people are going to see you around the world.

897
01:10:39,644 --> 01:10:44,944
So I just want to tell you, he turned out, my son turned out.

898
01:10:47,304 --> 01:10:52,157
just how I wanted when I spoke to God, I wanted my children to turn out.

899
01:10:52,358 --> 01:10:57,401
I'm very proud of them in so many ways, so many ways.

900
01:10:57,642 --> 01:10:59,843
And this is a gift.

901
01:10:59,843 --> 01:11:00,874
Thank you, God.

902
01:11:00,874 --> 01:11:10,000
I could just, and more importantly, I want my son to know how much I love him and respect
him.

903
01:11:14,331 --> 01:11:19,553
There's nothing a parent could wish for is good children.

904
01:11:19,553 --> 01:11:21,614
And I have that.

905
01:11:22,455 --> 01:11:27,357
Well, folks, you know, I'm going to thank you so much.

906
01:11:27,417 --> 01:11:32,600
And you want to introduce yourself because I don't think you've introduced yourself yet.

907
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,061
Introduce yourself at the end.

908
01:11:35,061 --> 01:11:36,312
I am a mummy.

909
01:11:36,312 --> 01:11:37,583
Tell them your name.

910
01:11:37,583 --> 01:11:39,974
OK, my name is Helene Perlman.

911
01:11:39,974 --> 01:11:40,884
There you go.

912
01:11:40,884 --> 01:11:42,645
My life is...

913
01:11:43,997 --> 01:11:48,061
for others, if I could be of help to others.

914
01:11:48,863 --> 01:12:03,451
I am so proud also of my son and my daughter and my grandchildren and still be alive.

915
01:12:05,285 --> 01:12:12,933
And this is the last, never mind me, the only advice I could give anybody that's
listening.

916
01:12:15,795 --> 01:12:22,649
Have a healthy life, good feelings toward your friends and your family.

917
01:12:23,149 --> 01:12:29,753
Just live a good clean life and always, if you can, be curious.

918
01:12:29,753 --> 01:12:32,154
That will keep you going also.

919
01:12:32,174 --> 01:12:35,656
Not only for yourself, but for others.

920
01:12:37,237 --> 01:12:40,579
It's there for you to use it.

921
01:12:40,579 --> 01:12:44,541
And just everybody, good attitude and stay well.

922
01:12:44,541 --> 01:12:44,991
That's it.

923
01:12:44,991 --> 01:12:47,843
Okay, well, thanks for hanging out.

924
01:12:47,843 --> 01:12:55,487
you know, again, this is coming from uh Warrior Saint and Love Life.

925
01:12:55,487 --> 01:12:59,768
And uh you can see that it's good.

926
01:12:59,929 --> 01:13:05,041
If you're going to be a Warrior Saint, it's good to be from the Lion's Den.

927
01:13:05,041 --> 01:13:12,455
So you could see that coming from her house, I came from the Lion's Den and I continue
that uh forward.

928
01:13:12,455 --> 01:13:14,620
And thanks for joining us.

929
01:13:14,620 --> 01:13:20,141
God bless you, sorry for, this is not the most uh professional production of it.

930
01:13:20,141 --> 01:13:34,811
This was a make do kind of, but the material is uh really, really great and strong and
thanks so much for uh giving us the honor of your time and energy.

931
01:13:34,811 --> 01:13:36,262
So we see you soon.

932
01:13:36,262 --> 01:13:38,113
I wanna hear, you wanna hear the joke?

933
01:13:38,113 --> 01:13:38,553
Okay.

934
01:13:38,553 --> 01:13:39,070
here's the joke.

935
01:13:39,070 --> 01:13:39,794
Just wait a minute.

936
01:13:39,794 --> 01:13:40,915
is humorous.

937
01:13:40,915 --> 01:13:41,575
I...

938
01:13:43,878 --> 01:13:52,374
looked in the mirror this morning, this morning, and I thought, my God, I still have my
original teeth.

939
01:13:52,454 --> 01:13:54,555
I don't have any false teeth.

940
01:13:56,437 --> 01:13:59,018
My teeth, original.

941
01:13:59,879 --> 01:14:12,648
And to this day, to this day, I'd learn to enjoy life and be curious and be healthy and...

942
01:14:13,412 --> 01:14:15,303
Attitude, attitude, attitude.

943
01:14:15,303 --> 01:14:17,135
That's all I'm leaving you with.

944
01:14:17,135 --> 01:14:18,796
Attitude is very important.

945
01:14:18,796 --> 01:14:24,159
It will get you and navigate you whatever problems you may have.

946
01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:27,181
But having the right attitude will get you there.

947
01:14:27,181 --> 01:14:29,422
Just attitude.

948
01:14:29,583 --> 01:14:36,512
And uh with that, thank our special guest today.

949
01:14:36,512 --> 01:14:39,059
My mom, the great Helene Perlman.

950
01:14:39,059 --> 01:14:43,372
Vaheguru Ji Karkhala, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

951
01:14:44,411 --> 01:14:45,346
Okay.