{ "version": "1.0.0", "segments": [ { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "6.48", "endTime": "22.555", "body": "Hey, team. Welcome back to another episode of the three hamster boys. I'm Alexander joined by our father Jeff and my brother Jeff's son Nick. Woah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "22.715", "endTime": "24.314999", "body": "You're both my sons?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "24.314999", "endTime": "25.835", "body": "Yeah. Wow. We're both" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "25.835", "endTime": "27.035", "body": "your sons. This" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "29.01", "endTime": "37.89", "body": "if you're new to this podcast, this is a podcast where we drink alcohol and as our mother puts it, talk about random things." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "38.69", "endTime": "41.17", "body": "Yeah. We like to not have a single thing." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "42.415", "endTime": "47.614998", "body": "And and this episode is actually a conclusion for a three episode set." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "48.095", "endTime": "51.695", "body": "Yeah. But not not in any order or in like a series at all." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "51.695", "endTime": "54.335", "body": "No. We're just Randomly when we do it." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "54.335", "endTime": "59.909996", "body": "Yeah. When the random item of today is Nick. Hello." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "60.309998", "endTime": "63.35", "body": "Because he hasn't spoken enough. He's been really quiet." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "63.35", "endTime": "75.924995", "body": "Yeah. That's the issue. Nick Nick is a little too quiet. Before we get into the topic for today, before we start talking about you Nick, do you wanna talk about what we're drinking?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "75.924995", "endTime": "90.28", "body": "I would love to. So, we are I think this is the first time we are doing wine Yep. And only wine. We went to a vineyard near us called Horton Vineyards. Lovely little place." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "90.28", "endTime": "100.055", "body": "And we did a I think a very exciting wine tasting which once again was at least Xander and mine very first wine tasting." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "100.055", "endTime": "101.975", "body": "Yeah. First like real wine tasting." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "101.975", "endTime": "104.775", "body": "It's the first time we've gone since after COVID." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "104.775", "endTime": "106.055", "body": "It's Well" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "106.215", "endTime": "123.57", "body": "For me. Yeah. So for for me. So before COVID, you would set up at the bar, you'd have a glass, they'd refill your glass over and over again and they'd be serving you that way. It was very different now because they put it into communion cups as we were joking about." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "123.57", "endTime": "124.665", "body": "And I think that's just the" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "124.905", "endTime": "130.025", "body": "Wait. That that I just kinda figured that's how they did it. No. That flight. That's kinda like what" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "130.025", "endTime": "131.385", "body": "I asked. That's brand new." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "131.385", "endTime": "140.17001", "body": "Uh-huh. Well. So I I don't know if this is necessarily a trend for all vineyards. It was the place that we went to but But in any case," }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "141.21", "endTime": "159.955", "body": "there were obviously we we love to blind taste Mhmm. Everything especially on this episode. So we tried a bunch of wines and then kept three bottles to the side that we were like, we would like to try these here. Actually, the person who was helping us, we were like, hey, we do this kind of thing. She was like, oh, you want the weird stuff." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "160.515", "endTime": "164.595", "body": "Here's here's my choices and and you know, ideas for it." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "164.61", "endTime": "168.05", "body": "So Shout out to Sharon for doing that. She was awesome." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "168.45", "endTime": "181.875", "body": "Yeah. Shout out. And for so this is gonna be a little mini wine tasting and obviously we're going to start with a white wine. This has aromas. I'm going to just be reading off the label basically." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "181.875", "endTime": "188.195", "body": "Aromas of hazelnuts, guava. Sorry." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "188.75499", "endTime": "197.11", "body": "For those listening at home, Nick just did an obvious take at the back of the bottle just to make sure he remembered it properly." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "197.26999", "endTime": "207.71501", "body": "Guava, vanilla, and acacia blossoms. So it should be refreshing. I don't Are are we we gonna make a statement that Sarah and I do not drink wine?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "207.71501", "endTime": "209.71501", "body": "Yeah. We don't drink a lot of wine." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "210.195", "endTime": "226.48999", "body": "And I have drunk a lot of wine or different wines and I've gone wine tasting in a lot of places. I actually toured Southern part of France and went to a bunch of vineyards. I do not consider myself at all a knowing wine drinker. I drink what I like." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "226.48999", "endTime": "228.48999", "body": "Yeah. A sommelier? Sommelier? No." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "228.48999", "endTime": "230.49", "body": "Sommelier. Sommelier." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "230.73", "endTime": "231.69", "body": "However you say that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "231.69", "endTime": "245.155", "body": "But in any case, this should be a lovely white wine with maybe a little bit of fun extra stuff based on the recommendation. And without further ado, I don't have too much else to say. Oh, it's the it's the Petite Mensing is the name." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "245.235", "endTime": "256.69", "body": "Petite mensing. Was the the name of it. Yeah. I will say, if you've come here for us to be dissecting the flavors and the notes of the wine, I'm sorry. You're you're in the wrong place." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "256.69", "endTime": "271.505", "body": "I apologize. We're gonna do what we do every episode. Give you a little bit of a breakdown of what we're tasting. But we're by no means experts. We're just people who, for a hobby, like to drink alcohol, which I think is a pretty common American pastime at this point." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "271.505", "endTime": "271.745", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "271.745", "endTime": "278.91", "body": "It's true. I would say anyone, you know, Europeans are all about wine and whatnot. Or beers or Or beers. That's true." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "278.91", "endTime": "279.23", "body": "Or if" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "279.23", "endTime": "280.67", "body": "you're in Portugal, drink port." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "280.67", "endTime": "285.805", "body": "You know what? That makes sense. Yeah. But, talking about the wine, very lovely, I will say." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "285.805", "endTime": "287.88498", "body": "It is very lovely. You know what it reminds me of?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "287.88498", "endTime": "288.76498", "body": "Grape juice." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "288.925", "endTime": "297.00497", "body": "No. Does it remind me of grape juice? But No way. The minerality of the water reminds me of the Amaral Ciderworks." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "297.00497", "endTime": "298.84497", "body": "Oh. I didn't get that." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "300.34", "endTime": "305.13998", "body": "You know, I actually kinda I'm For for once, I think I'm I'm here with Siding with dad." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "305.13998", "endTime": "313.035", "body": "That's okay. At the very end, you just get this very refreshing water, mineral water taste at the end. I didn't get that." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "313.035", "endTime": "316.55502", "body": "Wait. Hold on. Maybe we're not in the same I didn't get that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "316.55502", "endTime": "318.71503", "body": "But I appreciate your feedback." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "318.71503", "endTime": "321.195", "body": "Yep. It's very lovely." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "321.195", "endTime": "324.55502", "body": "It's very lovely. I don't think it's as dry as you would like." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "324.875", "endTime": "334.49", "body": "No. But I think it's a very very it's it's got enough of a punch on it that it doesn't have to be overly dry." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "335.13", "endTime": "339.69", "body": "A punch is such a aggressive way. I feel like it's that makes it sound a" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "339.69", "endTime": "341.05", "body": "lot bolder. No. No. No. I don't" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "341.05", "endTime": "342.09", "body": "I don't think it's bold at all." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "342.09", "endTime": "354.375", "body": "I think it's I would say it's between a chardonnay which is really dry because it has that kind of, taste or feel of a chardonnay but not as dry. I I really do like it a lot." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "354.375", "endTime": "355.495", "body": "It's very lovely. I'm a fan." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "355.56", "endTime": "361.08", "body": "Yep. I I mean, it's think it's easy to drink and would be lovely with some cheese and fruit." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "361.08", "endTime": "367.56", "body": "Yeah. Do you get the what was it? Hazelnuts and nutmeg No. In here?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "367.56", "endTime": "371.995", "body": "No. I don't. I don't get any of the fanciful stuff. My taste buds have" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "372.635", "endTime": "388.57", "body": "toasted hazelnuts, Arcadia. You know what? Arcadia blossom is probably why you are thinking about spider works because a lot of ciders that we had did have sort of that Arcadia touch of guava and vanilla. I'm not getting that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "389.13", "endTime": "398.405", "body": "This is when I go, my taste buds are not refined enough to search for such things. And I just enjoy the overall taste and experience of it all." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "398.405", "endTime": "409.60498", "body": "And I don't think the aroma gives me anything like that either. I'd You know, it's it's That's the other thing. Always wanna try to sniff it and because a lot of times when they describe it, it's the aroma that you're getting." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "410.00497", "endTime": "411.77002", "body": "Do you have to swirl it to sting?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "411.77002", "endTime": "412.57", "body": "You should swirl it." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "412.57", "endTime": "415.69003", "body": "Yeah. Okay. It doesn't have legs." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "415.85", "endTime": "417.21002", "body": "Well, it's a wine." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "417.29", "endTime": "420.73", "body": "Well, it's a wine. They don't normally have legs." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "421.29", "endTime": "423.13", "body": "They would walk away then and not be drunk." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "425.825", "endTime": "428.625", "body": "Well, guess what? We can't walk away if we're drunk." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "428.625", "endTime": "431.98502", "body": "Yeah. That's right. Alright. Was this a gin episode?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "431.98502", "endTime": "443.7", "body": "No. I don't know. Whatever the last episode we did, was it the sidekicks? Or whenever we did the Sidekicks one, I was also kinda feeling that one as well. Yes." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "444.02", "endTime": "447.22", "body": "Oh, man. Oh, it was the liqueurs." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "447.22", "endTime": "450.97998", "body": "Yeah. The Yeah. Liqueurs Yeah. That one was kinda boozy. That was" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "450.97998", "endTime": "452.58", "body": "that was up there, by the way." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "453.33502", "endTime": "457.975", "body": "Alright. I think Yeah. I think the gin went crazy. The liquors was also a great one. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "457.975", "endTime": "480.695", "body": "As our father, as Jeff mentioned earlier in this episode, kind of alluding to this is sort of a continuation of the backgrounds where we just talk about ourselves and like what we've done in the past. So we started with what I think we can kinda consider the most interesting which is our father. Yeah. Just because you've got more" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "481.095", "endTime": "481.975", "body": "Years. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "481.975", "endTime": "489.495", "body": "You've got more You have more of a a story to tell. In in Not in its entirety because you're still telling your story." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "489.735", "endTime": "489.895", "body": "But" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "490.055", "endTime": "491.01498", "body": "I hope not. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "491.78", "endTime": "503.62003", "body": "In the fact that you have a lot of years to, there's more of a build up into your story. Whereas, think for Nick and I, when we're talking about my story, we're talking about like my school and then some fun things that I've done on the side." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "503.62003", "endTime": "506.82", "body": "Which is typically like a The school is like always a setup for like the Right." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "507.675", "endTime": "512.475", "body": "It's it's really kind of the the the trampoline or the jumping point for" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "512.315", "endTime": "513.115", "body": "Yeah. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "513.355", "endTime": "538.02496", "body": "And so, for Nick, I I think we're gonna do something very similar where it's talking about school and you know, he won't get to the point where he's become, you know, seven years in the Navy and has gotten out and doing something totally different now. True. Yeah. Because he just he doesn't have that that same sort of experience. For those you at home wondering, Nick is the younger brother." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "538.02496", "endTime": "538.665", "body": "Oh." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "539.145", "endTime": "540.745", "body": "I don't know if we've ever established We've" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "540.745", "endTime": "542.185", "body": "never established that." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "543.225", "endTime": "545.46497", "body": "They they are two years and one day apart." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "545.46497", "endTime": "554.8", "body": "Yeah. Just in case that gives you a little bit of context. I think it doesn't really though because our schooling trajectories were so So different. So different. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "555.12", "endTime": "555.6", "body": "Because you" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "555.6", "endTime": "558.64", "body": "were in school longer, but I graduated first." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "558.64", "endTime": "566.015", "body": "Yeah. It's kind of a weird way that things worked out. Alright. Well, let let's begin. Nick, give us a little bit" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "566.015", "endTime": "602.47003", "body": "of an intro here. Yes. So we've alluded to it, maybe not talked about it specifically, but I have a background and interest in all things theater and film and sort of being the talent of productions and and those sort of things. And so I would say this all begins with just doing middle school plays and you know, just having the opportunity and sort of the time to let that simmer and really like set in stone." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "602.47003", "endTime": "607.11", "body": "No. Not that I want to argue with you about this. What do mean? However What" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "607.11", "endTime": "608.23", "body": "do you mean argue? I just said I" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "608.23", "endTime": "624.945", "body": "like that. Immediately. However, as your mother and I were cleaning stuff up, we found a piece of paper from your second grade recently that said, what do you want to do when you grow up? And you said, I want to be an actor in second grades." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "624.945", "endTime": "628.9", "body": "Okay. That's crazy. Outed by the notes from second grade." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "628.9", "endTime": "634.98004", "body": "No. Younger me betrayed me. Well, I think it was always on my horizon." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "634.98004", "endTime": "636.82", "body": "Well, do you know what your backup was?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "636.82", "endTime": "644.415", "body": "Director or writer? TV announcer. Oh. Woah. I don't even remember that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "644.65497", "endTime": "649.135", "body": "Also, what does that mean specific? I gotta go interrogate younger me." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "649.855", "endTime": "652.895", "body": "Like, look in the mirror. Anyways." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "653.21497", "endTime": "680.635", "body": "Yeah. After that. But, having the ability to do middle school plays and doing that fun stuff, I definitely fell in love with it more. Unfortunately, due to just my conditions, I ended up being homeschooled basically throughout all of high school. Sort of missed an opportunity to be in more theater and productions and and get experience that way." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "681.94995", "endTime": "732.945", "body": "And then after that, I took an improv class at community college to try and just rekindle and just learn and you know, experience more of of something that I I, you know, wanted to pursue to some degree. And then, this is this is where fate takes the whole takes the wheel and just coincidence after just weird sort of things happen. In 2019, my parents went to a funeral for a very close family friend. And while they were there, they met with someone who was very energetic about a small acting conservatory that they went to. And that same year, they introduced it to me." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "732.945", "endTime": "737.425", "body": "I applied. I went there, auditioned and I got accepted." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "738.305", "endTime": "750.63", "body": "It was I think that I think auditioned is not a strong enough word for what you did. You actually had to interview with Nan. That's that's" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "750.63", "endTime": "751.35004", "body": "an Well," }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "753.35", "endTime": "758.625", "body": "mean because Nan really wanted to make sure that your heart and your mind were all in the same direction." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "758.625", "endTime": "764.065", "body": "So the the basically the whole overall point of this, I'm gonna call it an audition because" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "764.225", "endTime": "764.545", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "764.625", "endTime": "767.665", "body": "That's that was basically what you were supposed to do." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "767.665", "endTime": "770.14996", "body": "Also, feel like an audition is the actor's interview." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "770.14996", "endTime": "787.855", "body": "Yeah. You know, like naming. But I was given It's like a two page script or something. You are to memorize it as best you can. You are to perform it in front of whoever is interviewing you." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "787.855", "endTime": "792.815", "body": "I had the school director interviewing me, which you're like, woah, that's a lot but don't there's not a lot" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "792.815", "endTime": "794.255", "body": "of faculty to interview. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "794.255", "endTime": "821.27496", "body": "So you know, you're most likely seeing her. And the point of it was not only to show that you have taken it seriously and memorized your lines, can put on any decent decent you know, movement or whatnot. But the most important thing that she looks for is if you can take opinions and directions. Because if you are an actor who cannot be directed, you won't get far" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "821.27496", "endTime": "830.34", "body": "is what I'll say. Well, in this context was that her being like, okay, now with a golem voice, and you were like, okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "830.98004", "endTime": "836.18005", "body": "No. It was it was more it was more free form. It wasn't like, you gotta do this. You gotta do" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "836.18005", "endTime": "836.74005", "body": "this. Okay. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "836.74005", "endTime": "857.35", "body": "Because that's not how they teach. And she And they say that directors shouldn't do that as well. But it was it was basically like, hey, you should do this differently. I'm going to give you a variety of words and you just mad libs those words as adjectives to the script you have. Woah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "857.35", "endTime": "869.065", "body": "So she'll she had like a I think it was like a list of like eight words. And then she was like, okay. I'm gonna get you can hold your script now. Because she's like, you've memorized it, but I'm giving you a lot of stuff now. So you you can read off of it." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "869.065", "endTime": "882.27", "body": "And she was like, I'm going to give you I'm gonna separate these, and now I want you to portray these eight words that I gave you. Mhmm. And see what you do with that. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "883.79", "endTime": "888.19", "body": "Were they like s a t words? Like you got like a lackadaisical and you're like, how the heck do I" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "888.19", "endTime": "910.99", "body": "influence those? No. It was it was more like sort of words of pursuit. Sort of actionable, you know, like to tempt, to scare, to you know Sort of those words that just add a little bit more layer for you to have a better direction on what you're saying. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "911.63", "endTime": "918.83", "body": "And I I think I could get this wrong, but the script was I think you are Prometheus?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "919.14996", "endTime": "920.43", "body": "I think that that's right." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "920.43", "endTime": "922.82996", "body": "Yeah. That that sounds familiar." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "923.525", "endTime": "938.69", "body": "And I think it's Zeus comes to you. And you're basically I acted it on the script where it was like, you're chained to a rock. Mhmm. But after that initial read, she said, what if you could move? And then you know do this other stuff." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "938.69", "endTime": "955.425", "body": "So it was you know it I think it wasn't that long but it was you know I was paying attention the whole time. Yeah. Of how it was. And then after that it was like very lax. She was like, yeah, you know, I think you can here's what I'm looking for and yeah, I think you can thrive in this environment." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "955.585", "endTime": "959.505", "body": "Well, I think that so the the part that so we were me and his" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "959.505", "endTime": "960.465", "body": "mom were not part of" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "960.465", "endTime": "974.18994", "body": "that audition part. But afterwards, we were in the director's office and You weren't part of the audition? No. But we we weren't there. But afterwards, we went into the director's and she asked some very pointed questions from you." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "974.63495", "endTime": "989.91", "body": "Sure. She because she wanted to make sure that you were not, you know, it wasn't all fireworks and spectacular and big contracts and big movies. She wanted you to know that this is a grind of a job." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "989.91", "endTime": "1008.59503", "body": "Yeah. I mean, it's a very practical school and I'll probably talk about it in other, like later in this episode on exactly their expectations. I think the thing that struck that really spoke to me during that little interview was how well do you take negative feedback?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1008.835", "endTime": "1009.075", "body": "Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1009.075", "endTime": "1012.195", "body": "And I think my answer was I only want negative feedback." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1012.515", "endTime": "1016.85", "body": "Mhmm. Because if it's good, that means it doesn't need to be changed so" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1016.85", "endTime": "1019.57", "body": "you shouldn't talk about it. You can't talk to" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1019.57", "endTime": "1029.97", "body": "me. Well, mean, you you hear this from your parents all the time is that we always feel like we need more negative feedback from our jobs and what we do so that we can grow and get better at what we're doing." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1029.97", "endTime": "1033.785", "body": "Yeah. Talking about yourself in the third person?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1033.9451", "endTime": "1037.865", "body": "Crazy. Yeah. So you haven't mentioned the school." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1039.625", "endTime": "1041.4651", "body": "Okay. Yeah. Nick, talk about the school. I" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1043.01", "endTime": "1052.85", "body": "got accepted afterward and Wait. Really quickly. Did you walk out of the audition feeling like you crushed it or was there kinda some doubt? It was I don't I" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1052.85", "endTime": "1067.595", "body": "think I remember being like very like I felt good, but like Yeah. I don't know how it went. You know, sort of thing? Where it was just like, I I did Like, it was like, I did what you asked, but I don't know if that's what you wanted. You know, like" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1067.755", "endTime": "1070.315", "body": "That's what I think you asked. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1071.675", "endTime": "1077.11", "body": "But, yeah. Are you saying Okay. So the name of the school I think that's what you're talking about." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1077.11", "endTime": "1077.5099", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1077.83", "endTime": "1108.1", "body": "Is the National Conservatory of Dramatic Arts. Which is a little tiny acting conservatory in Georgetown, Washington DC under a Lutheran church, which is very funny. And it's very small, it's very modest, but they have really incredible people that work there and facilitate. And they have they have connections basically everywhere in DC. And they they have a very incredible network." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1108.1", "endTime": "1111.86", "body": "And and they're they're they're working industry pros." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1111.86", "endTime": "1120.445", "body": "That that is the condition. To be a faculty or a teacher, you have to be actively working in there, in the in the scene." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1120.6849", "endTime": "1127.085", "body": "Whatever that may be, whether it because like, Nan does she does a lot of the audition stuff. Right? Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1127.085", "endTime": "1136.71", "body": "She the school director runs one of the biggest non equity auditions in Washington, D. C. So she's she's a mover and a shaker, and everyone else is." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1136.71", "endTime": "1140.07", "body": "What what does non equity mean in this context? Okay. So," }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1140.71", "endTime": "1147.095", "body": "non equity. Non union members. So you're not part of a big actors guild like SAG AFTRA or something." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1147.095", "endTime": "1147.495", "body": "Oh, okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1147.495", "endTime": "1157.2799", "body": "Okay. Non equity just means that you are not under any one coverage or whatnot. You could have an agent, but it just means you're not under like a big banner umbrella." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1158.32", "endTime": "1160.88", "body": "What are the disadvantages and advantages of being part" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1160.88", "endTime": "1165.7599", "body": "of union? Okay. So we're skipping to my third semester. Where are we at to the business area?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1165.7599", "endTime": "1168.5599", "body": "It's alright. Sorry. It's alright. We we can save that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1168.5599", "endTime": "1191.7201", "body": "I It it is just the advantages are you're on your own. You have very little obligations. You don't have any fees that to take care of on top of that. And you aren't under strict contract rules. If you're equity or union member, then there are fees that you must pay on a regular thing." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1191.7201", "endTime": "1193.64", "body": "You should and then on" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1193.64", "endTime": "1194.28", "body": "top of that, you have" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1194.28", "endTime": "1216.7201", "body": "to be working x or y, which and for both sides you can get excluded or included in only non equity or only equity acting groups or performances. There are theaters that specifically say, you cannot work here if you're equity. And then there's other places that say, you can only work here if you're equity. All this stuff. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1216.7201", "endTime": "1242.7899", "body": "Anyway, that's not that's not what to be taken from this whole experience. It's just something that to be aware of if you ever pursue it. Yeah. Before we move to our next wine, I will just say for the more setting up part, because this is basically what the first part is for. After I got accepted, it became, oh, we have four months, I think, maybe five, to find an apartment." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1242.7899", "endTime": "1254.07", "body": "And that is tough in Washington DC to find an affordable one that is somewhat close to where I would have liked to go to school. And we searched for three months?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1254.07", "endTime": "1267.605", "body": "Yeah. Was something like three months. We And the worst part is that it's a fairly big city. It's a big city. It's fairly fairly spread out and it doesn't have a lot of skyscrapers." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1267.605", "endTime": "1283.685", "body": "It's very It's a very flat city. Yeah. So, when we would go, oh, we only have six more blocks to walk to it. I think the the one day that was really the killer day is we walked 27,000 steps." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1283.685", "endTime": "1294.965", "body": "We walked we were we had multiple days where we would run around the city looking at different apartments and whatnot. And it would just end up being like, wow. We've walked through half the city trying to go to these different locations." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1295.29", "endTime": "1302.73", "body": "And we were really focused on an area probably within one or two miles or maybe three miles of the school." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1302.73", "endTime": "1304.8899", "body": "We got we got pretty far on some of them." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1305.13", "endTime": "1314.8251", "body": "Yeah. Yes. We definitely And the the crazy thing about it is we're walking, we'll go, oh, look. There's the Israeli embassy. Well, there's the German embassy." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1314.8251", "endTime": "1332.67", "body": "There's the Peru embassy. So all these embassies are all around there. And sometimes you'd be in some like the German embassy was like in a residential area. It was on the corner there and we just went by and went, oh look, there's the German embassy. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1332.67", "endTime": "1337.585", "body": "Yeah. And I mean, I walked past a few embassies like every single day." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1337.8251", "endTime": "1339.905", "body": "Yeah. The Russian embassy was right down the street, so" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1340.0651", "endTime": "1341.905", "body": "That's true. Did you find an apartment?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1341.905", "endTime": "1355.4701", "body": "So, That's conclusion. We looked in a variety of places and then we eventually landed on a lovely apartment in Arlington, specifically Roslyn. You don't live" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1355.4701", "endTime": "1356.99", "body": "there anymore. You don't need to" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1357.4701", "endTime": "1369.245", "body": "don't know. I I was content with it. It was a it was a nice studio apartment that did it did the job and honestly it was my first time living alone for a long period of time. And honestly it" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1369.245", "endTime": "1371.885", "body": "was kinda great. I really really liked it." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1372.2051", "endTime": "1375.5651", "body": "The one thing that I His parents were terrified." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1375.5651", "endTime": "1381.7699", "body": "Well, they're the ones who picked the school So But I It's crazy." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1382.89", "endTime": "1383.69", "body": "It was it was kind" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1383.69", "endTime": "1389.13", "body": "of reverse, know. Like usually the kids like, wanna go here. I wanna go here. I wanna go They came to me and be like, hey, DC." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1389.13", "endTime": "1391.115", "body": "Hey, think about this school. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1391.275", "endTime": "1411.46", "body": "Well, we we had So to to go back to that school decision, it was very You were looking for something very specific. Yeah. You wanted basically an acting trade school, not something where you had to take all the other classes of college. Rather than a four year degree, you were looking for, in particular, a conservatory that just did acting." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1411.46", "endTime": "1426.185", "body": "Yes. Yep. And that's what I got. Yeah. The one thing about my apartment that I did not like was there was no washer dryer in the studio, I had to use the laundry mat." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1426.185", "endTime": "1429.225", "body": "But there Yeah. But there was one in the build." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1429.225", "endTime": "1433.0651", "body": "Yes. On your floor. I know. Right? So, still not ideal." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1433.79", "endTime": "1446.67", "body": "I really I would have loved a in unit. But anyway, I applied, got accepted, got an apartment, and then moved in on New Year's Eve?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1446.67", "endTime": "1447.87", "body": "Yeah. New Year's Eve. Yep." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1448.125", "endTime": "1449.885", "body": "Holy cow. I don't remember that at all." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1449.885", "endTime": "1459.725", "body": "Yep. New Year's Eve. And we were putting together a table and my bed from IKEA. Shout out IKEA. On New Year's Eve." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1459.725", "endTime": "1462.365", "body": "Yeah. Okay. Wait. I actually do remember that now. Yes." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1464.26", "endTime": "1472.8999", "body": "Very very funny. And, I guess I mean, we'll get into the thick of it the next Well," }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1473.2999", "endTime": "1476.26", "body": "I mean, my glass is empty. Dad, your glass has" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1476.465", "endTime": "1477.5049", "body": "been empty." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1477.505", "endTime": "1482.385", "body": "Not quite empty. Woah. Woah. And Nick, your glass is empty. I had to" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1482.385", "endTime": "1483.345", "body": "drink fast because I was talking" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1483.345", "endTime": "1488.945", "body": "about it. No. I saw that you just I I was like, oh man. He's not gonna finish this. And then, next time I turn around and it's gone." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1489.93", "endTime": "1498.97", "body": "But our glasses are empty. Let's go get the next wine and continue the saga of Nick. Woah. See you guys in a second. Yep." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1498.97", "endTime": "1506.825", "body": "Oh my god. I just slapped the mic. And we're back. Hey team. Welcome back." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1506.8251", "endTime": "1526.74", "body": "Sorry. I went into like sports announcer mode for a second there with and we're back. The game hasn't gone too much further since you all left. Anyways, we have a much different looking drink in front of us here. This is a red Why is it bubbly, Nick?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1526.74", "endTime": "1544.21", "body": "So, this is Knott's and Shuttles. Horton's very rare and very prideful sparkling red, which I mean, I've never had one of those before." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1544.37", "endTime": "1549.49", "body": "I have neither. Not not one that's Sometimes you'll get a a blush champagne that's a little bit red." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1549.49", "endTime": "1549.6499", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1549.6499", "endTime": "1555.6499", "body": "But that that's about it. And also, this is chilled, which is not normal for red either." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1555.6499", "endTime": "1558.215", "body": "That's true. They But our Sharon." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1558.215", "endTime": "1559.895", "body": "Sharon. Our Sharon." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1559.895", "endTime": "1562.535", "body": "Our Sharon. The owner of Hortons." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1562.535", "endTime": "1576.26", "body": "Sharon, highly recommended to drink this chilled. So, you know, listen to the boss's orders. Yep. And, I'm very curious. There isn't anything dazzling itself about the wine, I don't believe." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1576.26", "endTime": "1585.14", "body": "I think the very exciting part is that it's sparkling and that should take over the experience for the most part. Yeah. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1585.22", "endTime": "1586.18", "body": "Let's give it a try." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1586.18", "endTime": "1587.22", "body": "I think without further ado." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1587.285", "endTime": "1600.5651", "body": "Yeah. Don't think there's much else to say with this one. It's a unique technique here for Not technique, but unique in the fact that you don't really see a lot of sparkling reds or as dad like to say, forced carbonated reds." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1602.22", "endTime": "1604.5399", "body": "It is very different." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1604.5399", "endTime": "1605.58", "body": "It's very odd." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1605.58", "endTime": "1611.1799", "body": "Okay. Dad, why don't you speak on that? You're a big fan of sparkling stuff. You really like the champagne." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1611.1799", "endTime": "1624.9049", "body": "I do like the champagne but usually champagne has a kind of a clean kind of short taste when it hits the bubble. This has got that tannin of red that lingers on your tongue along with the bubbles." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1625.225", "endTime": "1629.8", "body": "Yeah. No. You're right. This is weird but this is kind of our weird. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1629.8", "endTime": "1644.085", "body": "This is I mean, it's unique for sure. Also, I didn't think I would get that thrown off by a cold red wine. But, it kind of is. Yeah. It's just not something I'm used to really tackling." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1644.085", "endTime": "1649.0449", "body": "Does it need to be cold? Is really what I'm thinking here. I think it helps with the bubbles." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1649.0449", "endTime": "1650.085", "body": "Yeah. Think carbonation" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1650.245", "endTime": "1650.565", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1650.6449", "endTime": "1652.6449", "body": "Is better. I think it" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1652.6449", "endTime": "1661.07", "body": "it, like you said, you know, you're you're drinking a a red and it's cold is just odd. But then, it's already odd with the bubbles." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1661.0701", "endTime": "1664.43", "body": "So, on top So, it's just an odd drink on top of it. I kinda like" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1664.43", "endTime": "1664.8301", "body": "it though." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1664.8301", "endTime": "1668.35", "body": "It's good. Did a great recommendation here. It's something very different." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1670.875", "endTime": "1689.3599", "body": "I can't I I liked it at first. I think the more that I sip it, the more I'm like, I wish this was not this. But I I will say I'm not known to be a huge fan of of reds. They kind of My palate is certainly not used to them." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1689.44", "endTime": "1702.865", "body": "They they are much Heavy is not the right word but they're a much they they attach they attach to your taste buds much heavier than a white would." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1702.865", "endTime": "1713.2799", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when we're when we're wine tasting it Yeah. I mean like every time we drank a white, we'd be like, ah, lovely. On to the next." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1713.2799", "endTime": "1723.36", "body": "But basically, every time we took we drank a red, we're like, alright, gotta wash our mouth for a second down a little bit. Because it just sort of lingers on the tongue and it is very heavy. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1723.595", "endTime": "1729.835", "body": "Which is what it's meant to do. It's meant to it's meant to if you eat it with something to be part of that taste profile" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1729.995", "endTime": "1730.3151", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1730.3151", "endTime": "1739.95", "body": "And to enhance that taste profile. It's why when you when I cook meat for you guys, I'm usually throwing red wine in there because it kind of enhances whatever meat I'm making for you guys." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1740.27", "endTime": "1740.91", "body": "True." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1740.91", "endTime": "1743.63", "body": "Yeah. Very very interesting." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1743.63", "endTime": "1750.27", "body": "I like it. We're on to act two here. Yeah. You've been accepted into the school. Yep." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1750.27", "endTime": "1751.9501", "body": "You have an apartment in DC." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1752.365", "endTime": "1753.005", "body": "So true." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1753.005", "endTime": "1757.725", "body": "Doesn't have an in room washer and dryer but I feel like that's kinda normal for a city." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1757.725", "endTime": "1758.8451", "body": "You're right. You're right." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1758.8451", "endTime": "1761.565", "body": "And remember, act two is where the twist occurs." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1762.4451", "endTime": "1767.35", "body": "No. This is when we just get the rising action. Yeah. Everything's built. Where's the twist?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1767.35", "endTime": "1769.51", "body": "What happens? Who betrays you?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1769.51", "endTime": "1771.67", "body": "We're getting into the character building." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1771.67", "endTime": "1773.7499", "body": "No. No. No. You get you get a twist." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1774.87", "endTime": "1777.11", "body": "Oh. Well, we're not there yet." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1777.11", "endTime": "1781.615", "body": "You're rushing the story. This is called foreshadowing." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1781.615", "endTime": "1789.0549", "body": "We don't need to use storytelling terminology. Let me You guys are spoiling the end." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1789.455", "endTime": "1792.35", "body": "Look, I didn't say anything. I don't even know what he's about here." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1792.35", "endTime": "1793.23", "body": "But anyway." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1793.23", "endTime": "1795.95", "body": "We're the three hags. We share one eye. We're" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1795.95", "endTime": "1814.875", "body": "not sharing the same eye. You've got a different vision. But, I began my little career as a student at National Conservatory of Dramatic Arts. And it's it's kicked off with improv. Improv class." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1814.875", "endTime": "1845.0349", "body": "That's that's the first thing you ever do when going to school and it's very important. The whole core of the course is to think on your feet, trust your scene partners and just get used to being on stage without having to memorize anything, without having to rely on cues or props or anything. You're just you're just you out on a stage and you're kinda kinda just sending it to the for the most part." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1845.435", "endTime": "1857.05", "body": "And what I will say is that while you are going to school, there's a lot of other things you're doing for the first time. Because you've never lived in an apartment by yourself." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1857.05", "endTime": "1857.69", "body": "Okay." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1857.77", "endTime": "1859.29", "body": "You never lived away from us." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1859.8849", "endTime": "1861.8049", "body": "Had Dang. You're like treating me like a baby." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1861.8049", "endTime": "1869.8049", "body": "No. You did phrase it in either a very infantile or ominous way of" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1870.0449", "endTime": "1879.3499", "body": "No. No. No. No. Just I I would be cannot tell you how much we worried." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1880.3099", "endTime": "1880.7899", "body": "You know?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1880.7899", "endTime": "1885.0299", "body": "I Don't worry. I called you guys at like 9PM on how to grill a to" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1885.0299", "endTime": "1885.83", "body": "make a grilled cheese." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1885.83", "endTime": "1887.27", "body": "How to make grilled cheese." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1887.27", "endTime": "1890.6749", "body": "Yeah. I did that. And I burned the heck out of my brain either way." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1892.035", "endTime": "1896.1951", "body": "But, you know, and then you had to take the decimator, the discipler." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1896.1951", "endTime": "1899.875", "body": "Okay. Oh, my. I don't know. Okay. Let let him" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1899.875", "endTime": "1902.995", "body": "cook. DC transit. That's like all it is. Okay?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1902.995", "endTime": "1903.635", "body": "I don't know why he's" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1903.635", "endTime": "1907.28", "body": "like because it's a circulator and he can't remember that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1907.28", "endTime": "1911.6001", "body": "But the problem is, I'd already been to Germany and I'm I was already so used to public trans" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1911.76", "endTime": "1912.0", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1912.0", "endTime": "1929.3949", "body": "Transit. I don't It wasn't All these pieces weren't new to me. I'd live on a college diet since like middle school with peanut butter sandwiches, pop tarts and ramen and frozen pizzas. Like, I already knew it down pat. Honestly, the the the left turn on there was they bought me salad." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1929.3949", "endTime": "1931.3949", "body": "That was the most That was the scariest part" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1931.3949", "endTime": "1942.37", "body": "of my diet. I I think the point that dad is illustrating here is how much he worried about you and how much you were like, this is great." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "1942.6901", "endTime": "1946.5449", "body": "Which is what it should have been. You you should have been like, I'm free at last." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1946.5449", "endTime": "1967.22", "body": "I don't know if I had that because like, I don't know. It was just a weird experience but I felt once like I got into like a weekend, well, you and I lived there for a week after we were just playing No Man's Sky and eating like premade salads. Oh my god. I forgot about that. And then we just like took like some walks around because like Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1967.22", "endTime": "1969.62", "body": "You came with me to sign my actual school papers." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1969.62", "endTime": "1970.5", "body": "Oh yeah. That's right." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1970.5", "endTime": "1972.6599", "body": "To like get like finalized completely." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "1973.745", "endTime": "1978.0651", "body": "But yeah. Anyway We literally did just kinda hang out for a week. That was great. I really like that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1978.0651", "endTime": "1989.2499", "body": "It was a good time. It was very chill. But I started with improv class and that was very very important. That was very fun. I had a huge class of three people." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "1989.25", "endTime": "2008.185", "body": "I had two other classmates and we had and it was honestly a blast. Like we made it we made it work with three people. And for improv class, it was it was very good. We we bounced off each other well. And at the same time, you we it was a sort of a b day, how the the classes worked." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2008.185", "endTime": "2044.8", "body": "A days were improv, and then b days were script analysis, Where it is exactly as it said. We are given a script and we are just supposed to read it through, talk about it, and then just get into the rhythm and the mindset of really digesting and like understanding all the themes and characters and just building this like more expressive way on how to view art is is basically how it is." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2044.8", "endTime": "2050.08", "body": "And you didn't look at a particular character. You were looking at all the characters and everything around the script." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2050.08", "endTime": "2055.12", "body": "It's it's funny you should say that. The the script itself was called doubt." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2055.915", "endTime": "2056.5552", "body": "Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2056.5552", "endTime": "2063.2751", "body": "And they made a movie about it a little bit ago. And it just has three main characters." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2063.595", "endTime": "2067.195", "body": "It is Well, they like perfectly set it up for your class?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2067.195", "endTime": "2068.955", "body": "But it is it's always that script." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2069.38", "endTime": "2070.26", "body": "Oh, okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2070.26", "endTime": "2082.34", "body": "It is always that script. Because it is left open ended. It is already a fairly heavy topic. Mhmm. And there is just so much nuance and character tells." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2082.7551", "endTime": "2102.65", "body": "And each character is so almost archetypal, but still so grounded. And it's it's a very intense movie. The theming is really tough, and once again, it's left on and open, so it's up for the readers interpretation to the side. And that was basically the whole conversation most of the time when we're in class." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2102.97", "endTime": "2112.49", "body": "But you didn't look at a particular character. You looked at all of the characters or when you were doing a script analysis, were you looking at it as a producer or as a single actor?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2113.095", "endTime": "2128.74", "body": "Probably closer to yeah, director. Director. Where you're just understanding the script and really seeing how you wanna take it. I would say. Because it's As a director, you need to decide how You need to put it into your mind on what your answer answers are." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2128.74", "endTime": "2131.62", "body": "Right. So probably that. Obviously, we" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2131.62", "endTime": "2132.74", "body": "had we looked at a lot" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2132.74", "endTime": "2139.62", "body": "of like scenes because the the the script is filled with one on one interactions which really clarify like dynamics." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2139.62", "endTime": "2139.94", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2140.895", "endTime": "2146.415", "body": "But yeah. I mean, you look at characters we talked about all of them, you know, specifically as well." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2146.9749", "endTime": "2169.69", "body": "When you did it, because you were you really were it was three people that were new to kind of this industry or whatever. Yeah. When you did script analysis, was there a lot of do the times where you went, I I never saw it that way or or or was it was it pretty clear how that interaction or how the interpretation was gonna be?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2169.69", "endTime": "2193.06", "body": "I think it was just that it didn't get so deep into it. But it was like, it just sort of expanded my horizons just like slightly to start understanding where metaphors are used. Right. Where specific actions or cues are like really have the significance of it. And I think that was the main point of it." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2193.06", "endTime": "2217.1702", "body": "To really understand why something is in a script. Right? It's when you look at a film or a television show or book even, you aren't seeing the whole script. Right. You are seeing what is given to you after it's been sort of digested and and thrown into a a palatable thing." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2217.4102", "endTime": "2220.85", "body": "The script is you're saying you're seeing the whole you know fish." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2221.33", "endTime": "2229.865", "body": "So that's that I guess that's my next question. Are you also interpreting actions and interactions from a physical standpoint?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2230.025", "endTime": "2235.865", "body": "It depends. If if you if it's written in the script, there's probably some significance and you should honor" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2235.865", "endTime": "2236.825", "body": "it. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2237.145", "endTime": "2251.8801", "body": "If it's not written, that is left to the artist or the director's job to fill in that. And you can And that's where the play begins. That's that's the whole sort of That's why it's called a play. It's play. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2251.8801", "endTime": "2268.4949", "body": "Whenever whenever you're rehearsing, you get to play. Right. And I think that's that's always Every time a you know a new instructor or faculty came in, they were like, alright let's let's play. You know, because you get to see how you know, you work with a with a character. I think that's the joy of it as well." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2268.4949", "endTime": "2292.595", "body": "Because you're like, I wonder how my character that I just got thrown at will work with this character who you know, I know the person but they're playing a character now and I'm gonna see how we we talk, we interact, we we grow. And that well, that that was sort of a more nuance that came later. But that's that's the sort of basis. They start you off with improv to get you on your feet and used to acting and script analysis talk. Start understanding the work." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2292.7551", "endTime": "2294.275", "body": "Right. Because I think that Sorry." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2294.275", "endTime": "2294.675", "body": "Go ahead." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2294.675", "endTime": "2302.84", "body": "No. I was just gonna ask because you you were talking about the there being like a b days where like improv and then script writing on like different days." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2302.84", "endTime": "2307.56", "body": "Yeah. How long were your days? Really not long. Okay. I was like, are you sitting" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2307.56", "endTime": "2311.125", "body": "in a room for five hours reading over the script for doubt?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2311.125", "endTime": "2312.405", "body": "You're closed. It's four hours." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2312.405", "endTime": "2312.965", "body": "Four. And then" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2312.965", "endTime": "2316.965", "body": "play and then doing improv games like Freeze and Justify for four hours straight?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2316.965", "endTime": "2330.17", "body": "Kind of. It it is kind of like that. The the school is made for working people. So you you know, four hours. It's it's a highly condensed concentrated of what you're you're getting." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2330.17", "endTime": "2344.335", "body": "Mhmm. And these classes would go for six weeks, I think. Roughly six weeks. Maybe a little less. I'm in the mindset of like the advanced courses now, which were six week blocks." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2344.255", "endTime": "2358.8699", "body": "For the most part, they were highly condensed. Like, they they gave you what you needed to know and the experience. And then they moved on because it was very fast. The the course with the advanced courses is two years. Yep." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2358.8699", "endTime": "2361.59", "body": "You you don't get summers off but you just send it through." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2361.8298", "endTime": "2363.3499", "body": "Six semesters basically." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2363.43", "endTime": "2369.925", "body": "Yeah. After that, we moved on to scene study." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2370.2449", "endTime": "2376.2449", "body": "Well, I think that one of the things that You talk about a b a b. That's four days of the week. What was the fifth day?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2376.2449", "endTime": "2384.23", "body": "Oh. Oh. Fifth day is Fridays. Fridays are not optional is the sort of chant that they would always say. It would be a seminar and it would be anything." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2384.23", "endTime": "2394.955", "body": "It would be watch a movie. We're bringing in a professional that focuses on this and they're gonna talk to you about it. We're bringing in this. We're running through this. We're talking about this." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2394.955", "endTime": "2417.95", "body": "Know, it it was a very open ended experience that you didn't always know what what what was happening. There was a long form version of it where it was I think eight weeks of film classes Where every week you'd just be doing You'd be building on how to do self taping and just understanding more of film. Yes. So that's Those were Fridays." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2417.95", "endTime": "2429.3853", "body": "I think that that was So it allowed you to keep a foothold or a touch into the real world of acting with these Friday classes. That's how I always looked at them." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2429.7852", "endTime": "2448.985", "body": "They were a little bit of a breakup for monotony Yeah. And as well as they were when the whole school school was together as well. You would rarely You would only only interact like in a school sense with the other students when they're performing. When they're showing off their projects." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2448.985", "endTime": "2449.5452", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2451.145", "endTime": "2460.5", "body": "Which Yeah. Scene study, that was not an a b day Mhmm. From what I remember. That was just It was only scene study." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2460.5", "endTime": "2460.98", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2460.98", "endTime": "2501.06", "body": "And that was when it was our first time running through a script, getting assigned characters, getting assigned scenes, putting on those scenes, and then at the very end of that portion, performing in front of the school. And you did that, you know, halfway through your first semester or whatever. Unfortunately, this is the twist that he was alluding to that is always this, you know, ever present thing since in recent years. After I performed it, the very, like, next week, the another school faculty was like, alright. Well, everyone's getting sick." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2501.145", "endTime": "2516.39", "body": "We had reports, you know, of COVID down the street. Everyone go home. That is where I would say the tumultuous time of my schooling truly began. COVID. It's a real thing." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2516.39", "endTime": "2526.31", "body": "It was an awful experience for everyone going to school and everyone trying to figure out what the heck is happening and how long is it gonna be." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2527.5051", "endTime": "2533.0251", "body": "And it was extremely devastating for theaters and actors." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2533.0251", "endTime": "2549.93", "body": "It's true. Basically, every theater had to shut down, close-up, you know, turtle trying to figure out what can we do. And everyone was sent to the drawing board on what to do. I think I had, I don't know, a week, two weeks. We started our spring break early Yep." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2549.93", "endTime": "2554.25", "body": "To play around just everyone at school figuring out what the next steps are." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2554.25", "endTime": "2563.665", "body": "Because at that time, no one was sure how long it was gonna Oh, it's only gonna be for two weeks or four weeks. So for your school, they were like, well, we can figure out two or four weeks." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2563.665", "endTime": "2570.705", "body": "Yeah. So they delayed it. We we readjusted, figured stuff out. I moved back down here" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2572.74", "endTime": "2573.62", "body": "because there was there was" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2573.62", "endTime": "2576.5", "body": "just no point to being in my apartment for the most part." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2576.66", "endTime": "2585.46", "body": "So I work from home. So so every day from eleven to four, I would hear him do saying or doing whatever he was doing for his classes." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2585.46", "endTime": "2603.5", "body": "Yeah. And it means that my my experience for my first semester and slightly through my second semester was almost spoiled. Kind of spoiled. Basically spoiled. There was a infamous play that everyone from first semester does without fail." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2603.5", "endTime": "2607.98", "body": "It's called the bug play. That's just what they call it. It's not actually called the bug play." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2607.98", "endTime": "2608.8599", "body": "It's not actually called the bug play." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2608.8599", "endTime": "2631.42", "body": "I can't remember. I think it's like the the world we live in or something like that is the actual title. But it's it's such a fantastical play where each scene all the actors are a collective of bugs and they are interacting with their spaces and it's like, oh where are the ants? And you know they're having a little ant scene or there's a dung beetle scene. And I didn't get that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2631.42", "endTime": "2658.3298", "body": "What I was assigned was the fourth semester project. I was working alongside the end like senior students basically with their project. I was given a one man show that I had to put on, which I was not ready for. I had to God. It was like was like a nine page monologue." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2658.3298", "endTime": "2675.205", "body": "And I could not do it. I was like three days out from performance and I was typing to my teacher, I can't do this. There's too much. I can't do this. And he was like, yeah, you're actually not supposed to." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2675.205", "endTime": "2681.365", "body": "Like, that's understandable. I'm glad you reached out to me. I'll just You can cut this. Cut this. Cut this." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2681.365", "endTime": "2693.3098", "body": "Cut this. Cut this. Just like send it. Because you're gonna do you and it's gonna be awesome. And then you're gonna see the the people who are at the end of their road in the the school and see how they do it." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2693.3098", "endTime": "2701.6653", "body": "Mhmm. You know? And that was really relieving to be honest. Yeah. So I put that on and that's how it was." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2701.745", "endTime": "2731.305", "body": "After And that was the end of my first semester. I did that one man performance and that was the end of the semester as a whole. The week after that, they said, these seminars, these Fridays, they're like, we're gonna try and really outlast COVID. We're really gonna try and beat them so we can get back to our regular curriculum. So they said, we're going to take everything we had planned for seminars and just push them into every single day of the week until we're out of seminars to use." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2731.305", "endTime": "2742.265", "body": "Holy cow. So every single day was a brand new topic with a brand new speaker as well. Wow. And it was the whole class. It was the whole school sitting in these things." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2742.6802", "endTime": "2746.9202", "body": "So it would be such a variety. It's like, okay, today we're watching Rent. Today we're watching Birdman." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2746.9202", "endTime": "2747.08", "body": "But it" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2747.08", "endTime": "2748.28", "body": "was all on Zoom. It was all" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2748.28", "endTime": "2754.9202", "body": "on Zoom. Everything was digital. Yeah. Everyone was getting used to Zoom. But it would it would be such a variety every time." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2754.9202", "endTime": "2767.265", "body": "It's like, today we're looking at character dynamics. And you know, you'd have like info dump for four and a half hours or something like that. And it's like, okay, now we're talking about Birdman. It's a it's a oner. We're gonna talk about oners." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2767.265", "endTime": "2780.67", "body": "And now you get to you And then we're gonna talk about shots and like, da da da. And it was this whole thing. It was I honestly don't remember a lot from those weeks because it was just every single day was something. It's like too much information." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2780.67", "endTime": "2786.27", "body": "Too much happening too quickly. Like it's a little bit of whiplash it sounds like moving from like one topic to the next." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2786.405", "endTime": "2797.285", "body": "You could never dwell or let anything really sit and you can only just like, okay, I remember talking about that once or twice sort of moments. And the other part of" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2797.285", "endTime": "2804.8901", "body": "this is that, at the same time, you're supposed to be doing technical support volunteering at theaters. Not yet? No." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2805.61", "endTime": "2826.205", "body": "Let them tell the story. You're getting there. But after all that, they finally realized, well, we can't keep doing this. Yeah. And some regulations were lifted and we could meet with masks, six feet apart, temperature checks." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2826.5251", "endTime": "2860.94", "body": "And that's where my COVID studies began, which began with a little bit over Zoom, which was voice and movement and script analysis too. Voice and movement. I did it here for a while. And that's the one that Jeff remembers vividly, because I would be in my room and they would be like, okay, here's all the crazy like warm ups you need to do. So I'd be like pounding, you know, running around my room and da da da." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2860.94", "endTime": "2873.2349", "body": "And you know, I'd Then they're like, oh, we're on to voice class. I'd be like, you know, like, you know, doing a bunch of crazy stuff. And and that was it. Thankfully, was think I I only did that for two weeks or" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2873.395", "endTime": "2873.555", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2873.555", "endTime": "2877.955", "body": "I think something like that. And then I I moved back to to DC to to continue." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2878.435", "endTime": "2896.97", "body": "Yeah. The crazy thing about moving back to to to DC is that we did a couple trips back and forth because it'd be like, okay. I'm not working. I'm not gonna do anything this weekend because fourth of July is up or whatever. And we would go up to DC and there were no cars on the highway." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2896.97", "endTime": "2907.415", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Was just so strange to go up there and see DC traffic. The highways are always bumper to bumper. It's always busy." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2907.7349", "endTime": "2913.3298", "body": "We would come up and down and it would just be nobody. Yeah. It was just the craziest thing." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2913.3298", "endTime": "2915.17", "body": "Are you reliving COVID right now?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2915.17", "endTime": "2915.65", "body": "Yeah. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2915.65", "endTime": "2918.0498", "body": "Through it. Yeah. He's going through it again," }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2918.0498", "endTime": "2919.73", "body": "Well, I mean Yeah. I mean" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "2919.89", "endTime": "2924.13", "body": "There were like no one outside. Like, the restaurants were closed." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2924.685", "endTime": "2951.285", "body": "Yeah. Before we get to the the very last part, I will say I'll probably make the last part all about like the productions and performances that I put up. Sure. So I will say for the rest of this, I just went through a lot of practical classes throughout my time there alongside these performances and plays that I put up. So like I did They taught it in a very practical and business sense." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2951.285", "endTime": "2964.005", "body": "So I did have, as I was saying, the business of acting. Right? We went through talking about reading through contracts, talking about equity, non equity. When should you get in? What's it like working on a set?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2964.005", "endTime": "2977.02", "body": "Very practical feeling with that. We also I had more script analysis, scene study. I I went into those in-depth as well. Didn't you" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "2977.02", "endTime": "2979.18", "body": "do the audition class too during the time?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2980.315", "endTime": "2997.9", "body": "Audition class is is a very necessary thing and that's a two to three parter. I think there's audition one, two and a little bit of three. And that is just you work with the I worked with a person who A casting director. Right? Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "2997.9", "endTime": "3008.46", "body": "A casting director. And he Man. He he put us through He had very high expectations. He's probably the most difficult teacher, but in the best way. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3008.46", "endTime": "3030.6099", "body": "He did not accept anything less than. And he said it very very, you know, blatantly on like, if you can do anything else, do that. Don't get into acting. And But he was he was the toughest teacher, but he was also one of the biggest supporters. Because he As a casting director, he said, I always want someone auditioning to succeed." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3030.7698", "endTime": "3039.73", "body": "Because that's what he's looking for. He wants someone to succeed. Yeah. And I had to memorize like eight monologues. I remember that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3039.73", "endTime": "3050.215", "body": "They all had to be a minute long, and there was a time where he was like, alright tonight you're going through all eight of them back to back. Oh. Which that was really tough because he said that we were only doing three." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3050.455", "endTime": "3057.34", "body": "Well, but but he had said from the very beginning because I remember you saying this is that you should always have five in your pockets." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3057.34", "endTime": "3073.225", "body": "You should always have five monologues available and it should be serial drama, comedy, Shakespeare, a personal favorite and then something weird. Wow. Oh. Yeah. Well, I don't have those off the top anymore." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3073.385", "endTime": "3076.665", "body": "I need Yeah. Yeah. I haven't auditioned like that in a while." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3076.665", "endTime": "3086.6401", "body": "Yeah. Well, perhaps you'll have another chance in act three. But for now, we need another drink. We'll be back in just a moment. Don't go anywhere." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3086.6401", "endTime": "3102.175", "body": "And we're back for our third and final act, third and final chapter in Nick's story. Feel like maybe there's more story to tell here but we're running out of time." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3102.175", "endTime": "3106.8953", "body": "Yeah. I'll just get through what I can. Yeah. True. But before then," }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3107.5352", "endTime": "3108.8152", "body": "we had a white, we had a" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3108.8152", "endTime": "3113.73", "body": "red and in proper wine tasting fashion, we're gonna end with a dessert wine." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3113.73", "endTime": "3115.09", "body": "No. It should be random." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3115.6501", "endTime": "3116.85", "body": "Well, it could be." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3117.4102", "endTime": "3118.4502", "body": "It could spin." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3118.61", "endTime": "3143.3298", "body": "This is the about face. Not It doesn't have a descriptor on it, but it was one of the ones that was recommended. So I'm I'm expecting something interesting. You guys can talk, can taste. We had a variety of dessert wines and I think the We I feel like we already had the strangest one when tasting." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3143.3298", "endTime": "3147.0898", "body": "So I'm I'm hoping that this one's even odder." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3147.0898", "endTime": "3156.7751", "body": "This I think this is the pear one. Okay. Because I I get the taste of pears or maybe like peaches or nectarines." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3161.335", "endTime": "3174.42", "body": "Yeah. It is It's it's light. It's refreshing. It is sweet like a dessert wine. There's something in like the aftertaste." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3175.7798", "endTime": "3177.0598", "body": "Very interesting. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3177.0598", "endTime": "3179.8599", "body": "I don't know where to place it. There is something to it." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3180.66", "endTime": "3183.9448", "body": "It was definitely It's definitely not the white chocolate one." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3183.9448", "endTime": "3194.9202", "body": "That's what I the one I was sort of talking about. They had a a white chocolate dessert wine which was so not a wine and so sweet and overbearing. No." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3194.9202", "endTime": "3197.32", "body": "It Woah. Woah. It was not overbearing." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3197.32", "endTime": "3200.76", "body": "It literally tasted like a syrup shot. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3200.76", "endTime": "3205.08", "body": "It was a lot. In wine form. Oh my gosh." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3205.08", "endTime": "3207.56", "body": "I loved it. Yeah. I absolutely loved it." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3207.56", "endTime": "3210.985", "body": "You liked it. It was it was just coating your your tongue in like I" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3211.385", "endTime": "3228.09", "body": "feel like especially it was at the very end of us tasting 17 other wines. Yes. It's true. And, it was like a shell shock, culture shock overall. Was very different from what we had been drinking all day." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3228.09", "endTime": "3248.995", "body": "Very different. And but it was for me, I was thinking and and the woman that was helping us out there, not Sharon, but another person was saying, this is really good. I was thinking a flourless chocolate cake with this white chocolate wine would just be divine, but it would be so sweet." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3248.995", "endTime": "3252.84", "body": "I'm gonna be honest, a flourless chocolate cake with just this would be nice. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3252.84", "endTime": "3262.04", "body": "Yeah. I I mean, I I agree. I mean, we used to drink this your mother and I used to get this pear port Yeah. Which was just delightful. This it reminds me a lot of this." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3262.04", "endTime": "3273.425", "body": "Mhmm. There's there's something on the end of my tongue. This for me has a very lingering taste at the end of it all. And I just I think I can't place it. I don't know what it is." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3275.345", "endTime": "3284.07", "body": "It it coats my tongue like a red but not not like a lot. Like what it smells like? It smells like one of those like chocolate bonbon things." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3284.07", "endTime": "3285.67", "body": "Yeah. Like the inside of those. You know" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3285.67", "endTime": "3286.23", "body": "what I'm saying?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3286.23", "endTime": "3288.71", "body": "Yeah. Like the the That's a good way of describing it." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3288.71", "endTime": "3293.11", "body": "The cherry the cherry scent. Like a Yeah. Chocolate covered cherry. It's not cherry." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3293.11", "endTime": "3297.645", "body": "But it's not cherry. But it's like it's got It smells like the alcohol you would find in chocolate." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3297.645", "endTime": "3298.2852", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3298.445", "endTime": "3301.0051", "body": "That's a good way of describing it." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3301.0051", "endTime": "3302.9253", "body": "I like it. It's tasty." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3303.165", "endTime": "3323.8298", "body": "I mean, this was under the category of sweet and after dinner things because it was in same category as the ports. So this this could be something in between a really sweet wine and a port. So it's it's an after dinner thing that you would have to kinda clean your palate. Yeah. Very good." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3323.8298", "endTime": "3338.5752", "body": "Yeah. Alright. When we left off, you were kind of going going quickly through your classes and you really wanted to make a point of talking about your projects. Yeah. What what does that mean?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3338.5752", "endTime": "3338.895", "body": "So what" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3338.895", "endTime": "3367.615", "body": "are we getting into here? So spread throughout all the semesters, there is a big play. Sort of a monumental culmination of what you've learned that semester that you get to put on its feet and show the rest of the school privately. They do not do public performances until your very last semester. So they set it up and I really admire them how they set it up." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3367.615", "endTime": "3388.9949", "body": "They set it up chronologically on when these types of theater performance was started. So in semester one, the big sort of play was the bug play, which is sort of like modern but also like really weird because it's bugs." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3388.9949", "endTime": "3390.195", "body": "Bug. Bug. Bug." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3390.195", "endTime": "3413.575", "body": "And it's more of just like a very playful thing. But after that, we started going into sort of the roots of theater itself. And it was almost like a history lesson while going through school. So the very first thing that we were able to read and put a play of was a Greek. So Greek is one of the earliest recorded for performance and whatnot." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3413.7349", "endTime": "3415.895", "body": "And we did the classic Oedipus." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3416.215", "endTime": "3416.695", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3416.695", "endTime": "3421.655", "body": "Which, you know, that's one of them." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3421.895", "endTime": "3423.175", "body": "That's a story to tell." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3424.35", "endTime": "3431.1501", "body": "It was very fun. The only part that was not fun was we were masked in a big classroom six feet apart." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3431.1501", "endTime": "3431.7102", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3431.9502", "endTime": "3450.325", "body": "And that that part that's okay. It was honestly truer to Greek than normally. Because Greek, you're usually they wear these big masks that are never changing. But they're usually stuck in some kind of emotion or or caricature. So, it's okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3450.325", "endTime": "3464.28", "body": "It's okay. It wasn't it wasn't the worst. But after that, you obviously have to move to the classic Shakespeare. I did Macbeth. Once again, a very classic." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3464.28", "endTime": "3468.2", "body": "Woah. And I did it with some underclassmen which was very very fun." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3469.555", "endTime": "3472.7551", "body": "Is that a normal thing that happens? Like mixing up the classes?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3472.7551", "endTime": "3495.52", "body": "It is usually if it's numbers or I was in a weird situation. I didn't mention this, but after COVID, unfortunately, one of my classmates actually dropped out in my class. So it was actually just me and one of and my other like remaining classmate. So I it is not common, I believe. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3495.52", "endTime": "3506.775", "body": "So I was plugged into the Greek with a different class. Oh, okay. And then for Macbeth, I was plugged into a different class as well. Yeah. And those were two different environments." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3506.775", "endTime": "3516.8801", "body": "Very fun. It was like the the Greek, I was plugged in as an underclassman. And then for the Macbeth I was plugged in as an upperclassman. Because I hadn't gotten my Shakespeare credit yet, basically." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3517.52", "endTime": "3521.3599", "body": "Yeah. Because it's hard to come up with two people Shakespeare plays." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3521.3599", "endTime": "3526.175", "body": "Yeah. You could you could you could do it. Yeah. I was about" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3526.175", "endTime": "3526.495", "body": "to say, I" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3526.495", "endTime": "3527.695", "body": "feel like you actually could do it." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3527.695", "endTime": "3531.695", "body": "You could do it. Speed run Shakespeare with two people." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3531.695", "endTime": "3549.1602", "body": "Yeah. Well, no. Just just do it. After that, we I sort of I wanna mention this because I think this was my favorite theater style that was I was taught. It was something that was taught while I was in voice and movement too." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3550.205", "endTime": "3562.125", "body": "And I was introduced to an Indian theater style called Navarasa. Okay. And it's it's it stands for the nine emotions." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3563.19", "endTime": "3564.6301", "body": "I don't remember this." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3565.3499", "endTime": "3584.325", "body": "It's super fascinating. It's the idea that every single space, whether it's theater or just your house, permeates these nine emotions. And whenever you enter that space, you are just compelled to fulfill that emotion." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3585.205", "endTime": "3588.485", "body": "Oh. What what are the nine emotions?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3588.485", "endTime": "3589.045", "body": "Do you remember?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3591.63", "endTime": "3592.5898", "body": "This is a test." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3592.5898", "endTime": "3596.67", "body": "Yeah. I know. Right? I believe it's wonder. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3597.39", "endTime": "3602.5898", "body": "Joy. Love that. Disgust. Okay. Anger." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3603.135", "endTime": "3612.335", "body": "Okay. Oh. Fear. Okay. We're getting into the You got four left." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3612.335", "endTime": "3613.295", "body": "Oh. That's tough." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3613.295", "endTime": "3613.935", "body": "Hey, you're over" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3613.935", "endTime": "3614.735", "body": "half though." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3614.735", "endTime": "3618.0151", "body": "Yeah. It is sorrow or sadness, one of those two." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3618.0151", "endTime": "3618.655", "body": "How about hate?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3619.27", "endTime": "3622.1501", "body": "No. No. That falls under disgust." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3622.1501", "endTime": "3622.6301", "body": "Okay." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3622.6301", "endTime": "3624.87", "body": "What about whimsy? Now that we're just" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3624.9502", "endTime": "3626.07", "body": "That's wonder." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3626.07", "endTime": "3632.07", "body": "Wonder sort of falls into that. Hunger? No. Sloth?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3632.1501", "endTime": "3634.1501", "body": "Pride wrathfulness?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3634.1501", "endTime": "3635.2449", "body": "Love is one." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3635.2449", "endTime": "3636.365", "body": "Love love. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3639.4849", "endTime": "3640.605", "body": "Yeah. I can't remember." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3640.605", "endTime": "3641.645", "body": "So so how does No" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3641.645", "endTime": "3643.325", "body": "shame. You guys did" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3643.325", "endTime": "3647.325", "body": "some So how does that What does that mean when you're doing that?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3647.325", "endTime": "3662.3", "body": "So it was it was an interesting theater practice. And we didn't actually do a play with it, but it was just something that we were taught while going through our voice and movement. Because he would give us scripts and just see like, how does it feel to walk like this? How would your character walk like that? What would they sound like?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3662.38", "endTime": "3678.715", "body": "And on top of that he would, when we came into class there would just be a grid of these nine spaces. And he would be like, alright, you know they're here. You know what they are. I've written them down. Just while walking, think about it in the back of your head." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3678.72", "endTime": "3700.125", "body": "Don't make any specific intention to do that, but just have that in the back of your head. And it just tweaks so minutely sometimes just the experience of how you're performing. Which I thought is so fascinating. And he was saying that he learned it from an actual production that based it off of this idea." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3700.285", "endTime": "3702.205", "body": "Wow. Oh and there" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3702.205", "endTime": "3720.81", "body": "we go. Leads to it. They did it in a levels situation where the the stage was slanted And the idea was all the characters are trying to reach the top. But they have to pass through all these emotions to get to the top. And the top one, which is the motion I've One of the emotions I forgot, which was peace." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3721.1301", "endTime": "3734.0251", "body": "So they're all reaching peace, but they have to go through all of these different layers. Yeah. And very fascinating to me. It was super interesting. I always have Navarossa in the back of my mind when I'm in a theater now." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3734.0251", "endTime": "3740.6702", "body": "Yeah. Just because I'm like, this character always stands there and they're always angry. Why?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3740.83", "endTime": "3751.195", "body": "Oh, this spot on dead place is anger is kind of the feeling. Yeah. Do you think that walking into this room, does does this room embody a" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3751.595", "endTime": "3753.115", "body": "Chaos? Chaos." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3755.115", "endTime": "3768.8599", "body": "But sure. I don't I don't I mainly think about it when I'm on a theater. But like the the sort of ideology extends, you know, off Yeah. But I just wanted to take a side tangent to just, you know No. I really like that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3768.94", "endTime": "3769.42", "body": "Highlight that." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3769.42", "endTime": "3770.6199", "body": "I don't really think I've heard you talk" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3770.6199", "endTime": "3774.14", "body": "to me. Yeah. Don't think that's what I said. I don't you might have mentioned it, but I don't" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3774.14", "endTime": "3775.42", "body": "think we knew what that meant." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3775.42", "endTime": "3782.635", "body": "Maybe we forgot. I know. It's it's not flashy or anything. Yeah. But it's like something that I like I really took to heart." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3782.635", "endTime": "3801.2402", "body": "Yeah. After that, we went to We're not at modern yet. After Shakespeare, I did Commedia Dell'Arte, which was my first public performance. Once again, I was in a class of two, so I actually got plugged into upperclassmen and joined their public show. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3801.4001", "endTime": "3802.76", "body": "And that was Oh man." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3802.76", "endTime": "3806.12", "body": "I think it was my first. I think that was the first one you guys got to see." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3806.12", "endTime": "3809.385", "body": "Yeah. That's the first time we got to see you." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3809.385", "endTime": "3810.665", "body": "So you So parents" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3810.905", "endTime": "3812.105", "body": "Which one was this one?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3812.105", "endTime": "3830.26", "body": "It's the one where I it was Arlaccino. Oh. So Comedia dell'Arte. It's a it when when I say that, it's not the most recognizable whether it's Greek or Shakespeare. Comedia Dell'Arte is the original slapstick comedy." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3830.26", "endTime": "3852.71", "body": "It is the core of it. It is where all the roots are come from because they actually had while traveling, you are a traveling troop, you are assigned a mask, a name, and you keep that throughout your entire life. So you would you would take a mantle and you would be that until you die. Like in real life." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3854.5498", "endTime": "3855.67", "body": "It's very physical." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3855.67", "endTime": "3871.0552", "body": "It's super physical. It's it's all if you think of looney tunes, it it stems from that. Three Stooges. Three Stooges. So physical, you know, fake slaps, very very archetypal, like over the top characters." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3871.0552", "endTime": "3880.65", "body": "They all stand funny. We I had two classes where we discussed exclusively on how each archetype stands. Woah. Which was so interesting." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3880.65", "endTime": "3886.33", "body": "It reminded me a lot of Cirque du Soleil in that there was expressiveness in just body motion." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3886.33", "endTime": "3899.595", "body": "Yeah. And there they If you see, it didn't matter which comedia dell'arte show you put on. It's all the same because it uses the same exact characters just in a variety of situations." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3899.595", "endTime": "3899.995", "body": "So" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3900.395", "endTime": "3909.3599", "body": "that's how it's just like long running thing where it's like, oh I'm gonna write a comedian de la de Arte and I already have the characters figured out. I just wanted to see what situations I put them in." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3910.5598", "endTime": "3912.96", "body": "It's like a continuous fanfic." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3912.96", "endTime": "3939.1401", "body": "Yeah. A bunch of people are just continuing the story. It's true and it's it's very fascinating because the only time that you would change a mask is if you get too old. Because sometimes you are a columbina or an arlaccino and you're you're a young servant. Well, now you're no longer a young servant so you have to go to a dottore or capitano which is a more older character that's established." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3940.525", "endTime": "3963.26", "body": "But you learn these characters and they spend their lives mastering them, which I thought was so interesting. They spend their lives perfecting their character. Yeah. And my teacher actually went to Italy and they all have these signature masks that tell the audience who they are before they even say or do anything. And she got to make one." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3963.42", "endTime": "3970.4548", "body": "Woah. Which I thought was so cool. But that was a very fun performance. I actually got a little bit of an injury during that one." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "3970.4548", "endTime": "3986.35", "body": "But I think it was a it was a time when we saw you were just It had been a drudgery, the going back and forth. And that was really the first time where we saw you have just extreme joy in doing that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3986.35", "endTime": "3991.23", "body": "Yeah. Was the first time you got to appear into the into the room. He's really good at acting so" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "3991.23", "endTime": "3992.43", "body": "it looked like he was having" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "3992.43", "endTime": "4004.225", "body": "pure joy. But no. It it that was very fun. After that, we got into I believe it was classic American." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4004.705", "endTime": "4007.2651", "body": "Oh. Was it classic American? Classic American?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4007.585", "endTime": "4008.5452", "body": "I don't know. What the" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4008.5452", "endTime": "4010.0652", "body": "hell is this classic American?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4010.0652", "endTime": "4013.2502", "body": "Cat on a hot tin roof. Isn't that the one you guys did or" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4013.73", "endTime": "4016.77", "body": "No. No. Didn't do that. It sort of mingle" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4016.85", "endTime": "4018.61", "body": "Cat on a cold tin roof." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4018.61", "endTime": "4031.7449", "body": "To be honest, it all mingles a little bit. Mhmm. We did a modern one, which was a very local play that I don't think everything got produced, which was Unicorn Hunting at the twenty nineteen Regional Emmy Awards. Oh, Atlantic I" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4032.225", "endTime": "4034.465", "body": "Emmy Awards. I remember that one." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4035.57", "endTime": "4046.61", "body": "Where it was a very melancholic relationship sort of drama. I played like a basically toxic partner that kind of is inferred that definitely some domestic abuse." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4046.61", "endTime": "4053.105", "body": "Yeah. Was a that was a that was a rough one. That was when I'm like, is happy ever again." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4053.105", "endTime": "4064.78", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. It was it was a fun one because the aunt of the girl who was playing my partner at the time came to me after the show and she went," }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4064.78", "endTime": "4066.1401", "body": "I thought you were gonna hit her." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4066.1401", "endTime": "4067.98", "body": "I went, I would never." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4068.62", "endTime": "4077.02", "body": "Well, we we we were we were taken aback because it was We were like, we're gonna have to talk to Nick afterwards. What is he doing there?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4077.34", "endTime": "4086.435", "body": "It it was a different. I think it was a different side of of acting and I think it really like showed your range. Because" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4086.835", "endTime": "4089.315", "body": "I remember you saying that the director kept going" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4089.555", "endTime": "4097.53", "body": "More. More. More. That was probably the one that I had to get pushed the most for. Because I It's It was not me at all." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4097.53", "endTime": "4103.69", "body": "No. That we did Becky Shaw. Oh yeah. Which I did not like Becky Shaw." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4103.69", "endTime": "4105.53", "body": "Another super happy one." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4105.53", "endTime": "4124.39", "body": "Yeah. That one wasn't thrilling. Just just a quick rundown. It was just no one's happy in their current relationship and people think that they like someone and it's overarching. It's just about like secrets and not telling the truth and a little bit of manipulation on the top with a very unsatisfactory ending." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4124.39", "endTime": "4125.5903", "body": "And on top of that," }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4125.5903", "endTime": "4129.11", "body": "you guys are wearing masks. On still wearing masks. It's true." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4129.5903", "endTime": "4138.7944", "body": "It's a there was like Oh. Scenes that would have had more meaning if they were contacting or whatever." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4138.795", "endTime": "4165.48", "body": "The most jarring one about that is the director, he was trying his best, but we were still in the rough requirement to be social distancing. And that that play is riddled with intimate closeness scenes. And he just told us to read out the scene directions. Oh. Where it would be I I would be like looking at my wife and she would go, and they kiss." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4165.615", "endTime": "4168.0947", "body": "And I I would reply, it was a good kiss." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4168.575", "endTime": "4175.535", "body": "Yeah. It was I understood why they did it because otherwise, there was no way to know that as the audience." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4175.535", "endTime": "4176.335", "body": "Yeah. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4176.735", "endTime": "4179.6953", "body": "And there's no way you can have one overvarging voice saying" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4179.6953", "endTime": "4184.53", "body": "all this stuff. I actually think that you guys should have gone from across the room" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4185.09", "endTime": "4186.53", "body": "you couldn't see that they had mask on." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4186.53", "endTime": "4187.8896", "body": "That's what I'm saying. That's why they had" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4187.8896", "endTime": "4191.25", "body": "to just under the mask. That was" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4191.25", "endTime": "4203.455", "body": "a really tough performance. I had to like, not from an acting standpoint, but just of like, man I don't like this script. Yeah. That was my least favorite script. And unfortunately, I was a little too vocal about that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4203.535", "endTime": "4219.67", "body": "We have like a a review stage at the at the end of every class where the faculty has like one on ones being like, oh, so here's what you should improve on. He was definitely like, you gotta like not do that. He's like, I get that you don't like the play but like you can't do that in any other situation. I'm like, I know that's why I'm doing it now." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4221.6353", "endTime": "4222.995", "body": "Let me complain about this now." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4222.995", "endTime": "4227.075", "body": "No. I'm like, I'm letting I'm getting it out because like I gotta verbalize that like, this is not good." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4227.075", "endTime": "4228.195", "body": "This sucks." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4228.355", "endTime": "4231.235", "body": "If I was making money on this, I would be quiet. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4231.875", "endTime": "4248.69", "body": "But I'm paying you guys. But but no, it was That wasn't my ideal. And then I think after that was, I think it was my creme de la creme, my peak, which was The immersive? No, the last days of Judas Iscariot." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4248.69", "endTime": "4250.37", "body": "Oh, right, right, Sorry, sorry." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4250.37", "endTime": "4258.3047", "body": "That was, yeah, that was my fourth semester project. My very last one. My favorite script." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4259.905", "endTime": "4273.38", "body": "The play that cemented for us that this is what you were meant to do. Woah. It was. I mean, we left that play in tears Yeah. Because of your performance." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4273.62", "endTime": "4279.025", "body": "I had a lot of people come up to me after that show being like, you made me cry. And I was like, dang. That's deep." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4279.505", "endTime": "4286.3047", "body": "It was it was an number one, everyone did great on there. And we knew all we knew all the people there too." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4286.3047", "endTime": "4286.625", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4286.625", "endTime": "4308.26", "body": "Which made it even more impactful because we were like, oh, we know, you know, so and so, we know so and so. And it was just, you know, oh, you did the glizzy silent movie with this guy, but not yet. But yeah. But yeah, was it was just crazy that we knew these people and that that show was just so many characters." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4308.26", "endTime": "4326.3896", "body": "Yeah. And so It was my It was the biggest cast we'd worked with. We brought in alums to do it, as well as faculty. We got to use two different spaces that we transitioned through near the end of the play. We had lighting," }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4326.3896", "endTime": "4327.03", "body": "we had a lot of" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4327.03", "endTime": "4348.005", "body": "props, everyone was doing costume changes. It was just It felt like this was the culmination of everything that I'd worked for. And it was my very last show for the four year standard certificate." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4348.005", "endTime": "4348.3247", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4350.2803", "endTime": "4370.385", "body": "Which I love it. I will cherish it for a while, that sort of whole experience. But then after that, there is an advanced course, which It's not theater. It's all about film and self production, is the intention of it. And it's a whole different environment." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4370.385", "endTime": "4385.36", "body": "We got to do a whole, you know, a mass amount of very particular and more advanced shows and whatnot. I can't I had an immersive show that they were talking about which was like a fairy tale themed one." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4386.16", "endTime": "4401.695", "body": "I I think that one really opened my eyes to like theater and being like, wait, this is like a genre that can happen. Yeah. Like I didn't even know what an immersive show was before that. Yeah. And then it's like, oh that's really interesting." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4401.695", "endTime": "4406.04", "body": "And then now you see these bar shows that do this all over the place." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4406.04", "endTime": "4415.5596", "body": "Yeah. I think the the most common one that people are familiar with are like the the Murder Dinner. Yeah. Sort of like interactive show. Basically that." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4415.88", "endTime": "4433.83", "body": "No dinner though. We we gave cookies. And then we did a devised piece, which is so fascinating. Which no one I had no idea what a devised piece was. I But when I'm looking around for auditions and stuff, devised piece is a very common thing." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4433.83", "endTime": "4448.8247", "body": "Oh, really? Yeah. Basically what devised is, to my understanding, is you create the show as it goes in rehearsal, and then when it's time to put it up, you just show what you've cultivated." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4450.425", "endTime": "4451.865", "body": "He doesn't like I'm rotating the" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4451.865", "endTime": "4453.785", "body": "glass. No. No. I can hear it on the microphone." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4453.785", "endTime": "4455.625", "body": "You can hear it on the microphone?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4455.625", "endTime": "4459.67", "body": "I can hear it from where I am. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4459.67", "endTime": "4461.3496", "body": "How much did you have to drink?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4463.27", "endTime": "4471.125", "body": "Anyways, there there was so many cool things that you did during that. Yeah. We talked about the silent film. We did silent film. There was a" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4471.125", "endTime": "4494.3403", "body": "whole filming portion. Silent film's a one minute film. The really exciting thing is I got to participate in two forty eight hour film festivals on top of that. Which is just, you're given a prompt, a character, and a genre on a Friday night. And you are supposed to write film, record, edit, and put it up by Sunday afternoon and submit it." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4494.3403", "endTime": "4499.915", "body": "And DC as a whole, there there's a whole forty eight hour film community. Puts it up." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4499.995", "endTime": "4502.6353", "body": "And we were we were coming up every six weeks to see" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4502.6353", "endTime": "4505.195", "body": "a new performance which was pretty darn cool." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4505.1953", "endTime": "4510.7603", "body": "Yeah. That is all to say. Yeah. That's basically it. I did some side stuff." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4510.7603", "endTime": "4522.04", "body": "I did a comedy. I did a children's show that we actually got to do in a actual DC which was really exciting actually. That one was a lot fun. Really liked that one." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4523.245", "endTime": "4523.965", "body": "Arg." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4523.9653", "endTime": "4535.085", "body": "Arg, yeah. I played a pirate. Man, the school was a whirlwind. I did all that in two years and I sort of came out revolving door being like, what happened in there? You know?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4535.245", "endTime": "4548.64", "body": "Sort of. But you know, actually like laying it out, It was nonstop but also just such a blast. I've learned so much that I still Even today I'm like, yeah I know that. And I'm like, why do I know that? Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4548.64", "endTime": "4550.24", "body": "Which class was that?" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4550.24", "endTime": "4557.1646", "body": "Yeah. It's like, I know what you're talking about. And I understand that I technically learned that, but I'm like, I don't think about that." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4557.645", "endTime": "4572.6396", "body": "I think a lot of times, you when you're learning quickly because like, when I went to nuclear power school, was six months going from basic arithmetic to nuclear engineering. Yeah. Mhmm. You get done with it. You're like, what the heck just happened?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4572.6396", "endTime": "4589.675", "body": "Yeah. And I think it's the same way for you because you were going every day, five days a week. Yeah. And then six months later, you would say something and and we'd go, oh, now we get what you were saying there. Because it just kind of pops up in your mind that that's what it was." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4589.755", "endTime": "4593.3696", "body": "Yeah. Were you graded? Do they have grades? Yeah. Basically." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4593.45", "endTime": "4594.17", "body": "Okay. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4594.17", "endTime": "4598.09", "body": "Well, technically, because they're they're an accredited school, so they do have grades." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4598.09", "endTime": "4598.41", "body": "Okay." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4598.41", "endTime": "4612.535", "body": "But it's basically attendance is the biggest one. Right. And then everything else. Because it's it's very free form because like how are you gonna grade it? It's like, yeah you didn't do like a good performance." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4612.535", "endTime": "4613.735", "body": "He's gonna be a terrible actor." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4613.735", "endTime": "4619.895", "body": "But like, an accreditation standpoint like they're there and they're doing the job and like that's Yeah. The most important thing." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4620.75", "endTime": "4627.71", "body": "Yeah. I think I just remember you talking about the standupcom comedian, which is, I think, the worst thing you ever did." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4627.71", "endTime": "4635.785", "body": "Yeah. Stand up comedy not fun when you're doing it in an empty room. But, that's, you know, that's the whole thing. But, we're rolling to the end. Very long winded." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4635.785", "endTime": "4637.225", "body": "I definitely talked way too much" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4637.4653", "endTime": "4638.505", "body": "No. This was awesome." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4638.9053", "endTime": "4644.665", "body": "I need to not episode, I'm just gonna be in the corner. I'll be behind the camera. And," }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4644.665", "endTime": "4646.0254", "body": "Nick, what are you doing over there?" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4646.0254", "endTime": "4648.4253", "body": "Alright. So, we tasted three very different things." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4648.65", "endTime": "4649.4497", "body": "Yes. Do" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4651.69", "endTime": "4652.4097", "body": "you want me to go first?" }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4652.4097", "endTime": "4657.21", "body": "Yeah. Do it. You you you like I'm sorry. You were teeing this up. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4657.77", "endTime": "4658.73", "body": "You teed it up and" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4658.73", "endTime": "4660.89", "body": "then you went I went" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4661.565", "endTime": "4664.045", "body": "I'll give it that. Yeah. Yo, you try. This is" }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4664.045", "endTime": "4672.8447", "body": "gonna a try. Liked all of them in very different ways. But I think I like the third one the best." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4672.8447", "endTime": "4673.8047", "body": "Oh, the dessert." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4673.965", "endTime": "4678.2495", "body": "Bout I think so. Bout Face. Face is probably my favorite." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4679.05", "endTime": "4688.3296", "body": "Probably a surprise to no one. Like I said before, I'm not a huge fan of red. I like the whites. They're nice. But, yeah." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4688.3296", "endTime": "4697.695", "body": "The dessert wine I think was was nice. It was light. It was sweet. It's it's good. You could just drink that anytime." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4697.695", "endTime": "4699.4546", "body": "It doesn't even need to be after dinner." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4700.575", "endTime": "4713.4", "body": "I think I'm going to choose the white wine, the petite I really really like that. So smooth. I could imagine eating it with such or drinking it with such a variety of foods. Yeah. I really liked it." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4713.56", "endTime": "4720.585", "body": "No. I thought it was good. I I did like it too. Because it was just a little bit below a chardonnay for me. So, I I I did like it also." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4720.585", "endTime": "4720.905", "body": "It had" }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4720.905", "endTime": "4734.1597", "body": "a lot of layers and a lot of unique Yep. Aspects to it. Yeah. Well, with that, we're gonna about face out of this room. And before you sign off Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4734.2397", "endTime": "4743.9995", "body": "This whole thing, I like to do a call to action. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you are interested in anything I said, just try it." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4744.1597", "endTime": "4752.625", "body": "Right? Learn about it. Like acting is such a magical experience. You don't have to do it full time. Heck, I'm not even doing it full time." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4752.625", "endTime": "4775.815", "body": "But like, if you just get into the space and are able to end up in a creative environment with really creative people, you're just blown away by the work you can you can create. Yeah. So I would I would I would invite you to do something creative. It doesn't have to be acting. I play drums." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4775.895", "endTime": "4779.255", "body": "Play drums. Write a painting. Do a sip and paint." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4779.255", "endTime": "4780.855", "body": "Write a painting. Write a painting." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4780.855", "endTime": "4781.735", "body": "Do do a sip and paint." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4781.735", "endTime": "4794.55", "body": "Write write a poem. And be kind to yourself. We're all learning and it's okay to be bad at something especially when you're learning what that thing is. Yes. Dear goodness, that car outside was so loud." }, { "speaker": "Jeff", "startTime": "4794.55", "endTime": "4796.79", "body": "And you may hear frogs in the back." }, { "speaker": "Nick", "startTime": "4796.79", "endTime": "4797.67", "body": "You may hear frogs." }, { "speaker": "Alexander", "startTime": "4797.67", "endTime": "4803.091", "body": "Well, thank you all so much for watching. We'll catch you next time. See you soon. Bye. Bye." } ] }