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Hello, folks, and welcome. I'm laughing already. To the Cinema

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Beef Podcast. I am one of your hosts, Gary Hill. With me tonight,

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as usual, is Suzanne. Greetings from

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allergy hell. I'm sorry.

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Yeah, it happens.

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Also with us, and certainly not least, is Mr. Jeffrey X.

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Barton. How you doing, sir? Konichiwa,

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indeed. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, you have to get that

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conversation before the show for that. For that reference right there.

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But maybe. Yeah,

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maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Oh, my gosh.

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All right. Yeah, I'm back from. From a small, small hiatus

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on this show. Appreciate you guys for. For holding it down and

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getting a little goofy on me, and that's cool, you know.

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Oh, we. We all over that episode. It's. Oh, God,

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it was bad. It was. It was funny. It was.

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It was funny at the time. I hope. I hope it was funny like,

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you know, later.

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So that I never released. I lost it to my computer in

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the fire. But Patrick Walsh

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came on the show from the Screen Scream Queens

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podcast, you know. Oh, God,

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Gets Gay. I think the whole titles. They want me to see the whole thing.

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It's like A Tribe Called Quest with that guy.

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Yeah. And him and Suzanne were getting

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in the business there, where they were. They were lit. There you go. And they

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were just goofing off, and I was like, how am I gonna. This is like

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a piece of shit. You know, I almost want to give it to Suzanne and

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say, hey, you do this. You did this, obviously. And then, you know,

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I wasn't alone. Yeah, I guess so. Miss you,

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Patrick Walsh. I owe you a show, my good friend. But anywho,

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we'll start the show like we always start the show. And I'll ask Suzanne

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what's she been watching late. Oh, to be honest, it's mostly been watched the last

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weekend of baseball, so now I'm full

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on football and waiting for hockey. And I actually,

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God help me, I started watching monsters.

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The Menendez brothers. I am five episodes

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deep, and I swear to God, I have not laughed so hard as

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I have at this. It is absolutely

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a sight to behold.

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And the one thing that I have to admit cracks me up about this,

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the excessive use of Milli Vanilli.

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It is. It is very overwhelming,

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and I just start laughing. When it

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comes to murder, Suzanne, you gotta blame it on something, right? You know? Yeah.

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Well, apparently, instead of blaming it on the rain, they blamed it on abuse.

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And now the most I know about the Menendez brothers, I grew up at the

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time, you know, would have been newsworthy stuff. But I Was probably about,

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I don't know, eight or nine or so. You know, again, I'm showing the age

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gap here is that their father was the one that owned live

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entertainment. And, yeah, his murder is the reason why

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I don't have a proper release of Fright Night Part two yet and

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waiting, you know, so that's. That hurts my feelings.

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Oh, that's terrible. Oh, my gosh.

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Anyhow, Sue. Oh, yeah, And I did a little

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bit. I caught part of this Albert

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Brooks documentary. So I ended up having to go and watch real life.

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If you ever get a chance. It is a.

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He did some amazing movies. I forgot how much I enjoyed

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most of his films. And it kind of ties in because he

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used to do the shorts on the. At least the first season of Saturday Night

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Live. He's really brilliant at, you know,

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just kind of doing the slice of American life.

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So it was really. It was. It was really

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interesting to watch and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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And I also decided, yeah, I watched the Omen.

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I watched the Omen Part 2 a while ago, and I'm like, you know,

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I kind of gotta just, you know, put my feet down

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and just watch the Final Conflict. I really don't see

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any need to watch anything else past the Final Conflict.

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Hell, I tried to watch the first Omen I got about halfway through and I'm

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like, I'm gonna preserve my sanity here.

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I disagree. If you watch the Omen, Final Conflict,

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you watch the Omen 4 back to back, you're gonna have

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a good laughter of a day. Because Final Conflict

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has a baby killing montage that beats the band.

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four. It's just funny. It's just funny.

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But poor, poor Michael Lerner's about to get killed by. You know,

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her name was Delia, Little Damien girl.

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up to accompany him to his death. It's hilarious.

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Come on now. You know, I haven't watched. I did watch Part four,

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but I just don't feel the need to watch it again. It's like, if you're

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wondering where that choir music was coming from, well,

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apparently it's the undead choir that's walking with Michael Lerner wherever he

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goes. And, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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pretty much. And how loud was your father in law screaming last

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week when Tennessee won? I was

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not in the house for that.

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my bad. Yeah, there was. Well. Oh, yeah, that was a bye week last week.

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spending a lot of time over with the kids,

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so I think I missed the Ric Flairing that I would

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That's awesome. I wish I could get just a surreptitious

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recording of him doing the redneck mating call

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every time there's a touchdown. Oh, God,

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please. You do need to do that and send it to me.

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It's. It's impressive.

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I'll put it that way. You really have to capture that and

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send it to me. Well, my. My father's great

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sports moments were him sitting on the chair in my living

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room whenever the White Sox would. Would score a home run.

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It was about Hawk. Harold said he would stay right along with him. You could

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put it on the board. Yes. My father be right along with him

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saying that. So, you know. So, yeah, when the Sox won the World Series,

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they. They did it the year after my father died. So I

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call that World Series my father's cruel joke from beyond the grave

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of the soccer series. You know,

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that's frustrating as hell, man. It is what it is, you know?

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Oh, my gosh. X. What. What do you. What you were watching,

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man? I've been watching a lot of stuff that

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But I will say this. I did watch a movie called the

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Coffee Table. You've heard of that?

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dark sort of horror movie with a very

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realistic tone.

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I just hear you depressed when it's over. This is what I hear about that

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movie. I think a lot of people

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probably would be. I laughed my

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ass off during that movie. I thought it was incredibly funny.

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I think that I'm supposed to think that this is just.

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God, once you. It's bad and then

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you think it can't get worse, and then it gets worse and

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terrible things just happen to these people. And I'm by myself,

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of course, so I just. I'm laughing out loud. I think it's

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absolutely hilarious. If you have a very

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dark sense of humor, then you'll probably enjoy

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the coffee table. It has nothing to do with coffee.

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that if you're fucked up enough to enjoy something

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like that. Oh, I'm in.

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the get go, from the married family bitching at each other to

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everything that happens after that with terrible sales people

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and weird kids that live down the hall who are not the

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kids in the hall, which is difficult. For me to wrap my head

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around. Yeah, no Kevin McDonald, then you were telling

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me. Yeah, no Kevin McDonald, no Scotty Thompson, nothing. It's terrible.

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But, yeah, definitely. Check that out.

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Cool. I watched a bunch of stuff, and I'll talk about a

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couple things. I was going to take my last. My last appearance on the show

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and watch some new stuff.

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Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice I saw. And that's a

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film that people are praising. And I just

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don't see it as far as like, hey, this was so great.

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I don't share these feelings with Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice.

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And I like part of it. And the rest of it you

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can keep. And it is like the Ritz crackers

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of legacy sequels. It's only good because

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you waited 35 years for it. Okay, this is why.

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Come here. It is. You waited 35 years for it.

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And this is why people are saying, oh, it's so good,

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because there's a lot of flaws in it, and it's a little too.

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Little too late for me. And they replaced Harry

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Belafonte with MacArthur Parker. They fucking ruined it.

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And I don't like that very much.

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Was it the original version or the Donna Summer version?

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I don't know. They sing it as a cast at the end of the movie.

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Oh. Oh, goodness. Okay, I retract my question.

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Cause spoilers. Lydia makes a deal with Beetlejuice to save her

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daughter, played by Jenny Ortega. And in return, she said she would marry

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him finally. And this is a wedding scene where they all seem MacArthur

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Park. And it's not. It just sounds terrible.

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It's not the acting, it's the execution. So after

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that, I watched him tried and true Tim Burton stuff that

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I love because he'll bitch so much about the Dark Shadows movie that I

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love. I watched that and enjoyed the fuck out of that. Because one

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cruel thing that Beatrice. Beatrice does is they ruin and

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they waste a Monica Belichick performance of that movie by

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just, like, having her hang around and then, you know,

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go away and die unceremoniously.

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Now, if they would have done her. If you don't. He did. Oh, what's her

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name? Not even as the

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Dark Shadows. Help me out here.

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Okay? Which movie.

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In Dark Shadows? The one that's after.

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After Barbie or Sex or whatnot.

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blank. Yeah, they do Eva. What's her face?

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Eva Longoria. No.

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Eva Gabor. No, she's in Nightmare. No, that's Jaja.

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That's in Nightmare 3. This could drag

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me that though. So here we go. IMDb. Yep.

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Green. Yeah. So even green. A lot better in Dark Shadows than they did Monica

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Balloon. They just. They just wasted one of the

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most beautiful French creatures on the planet who just turned 16. You wouldn't

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know by looking at her. Yeah,

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that's your biggest trespass there. If you don't be able to use but on the

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Dark Shadows. Good stuff. Fun.

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Not like the soap opera. Really hot goes. It's all done

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for comedy. Go and watch the Cooper woman

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killing hippies. It's. It's all fun. You know.

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Hang on a second. Just get out of here, bro. You're causing me to

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egg cat. Go. Christ. Yeah, you all

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right, back to reality here. I watched something me and X both watched. I watched

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Cuckoo and Oh yeah, that's a new we're

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talking about. And it was enjoyable. It was different

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way about it. Get too much with the plot away. But I'm much torn like

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most people to where the ending was kind of like. It was kind of.

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girl in her family who. Who moved to this community and.

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done and has a really interesting plot point to the.

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To the point of. It's very. It's. It's. It's very different.

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And I don't want to give it away, just put it that way.

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What do you think, X? I'm sorry. Excuse me.

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Sorry. I was about to choke, but I didn't. Oh,

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aren't you all lucky? I think it

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does have an interesting plot. I'm not completely sure that I understand

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everything that happened,

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but I will say this freaking Dan Stevens

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can pretty much do anything.

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As far, if I'm correct, he's. He's a British dude.

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almost Boston accent. And in this one,

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he's a very convincing German. So his

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accents are just fantastic. And I love watching him

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in anything. He was pretty much the high point

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of Cuckoo for me. Yeah, I'm not

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sure I quite understood what the fuck happened in that movie.

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I just kind of watched. I went, okay, I am

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making connective leaps without any

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real verification that what I'm thinking is correct.

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I'm okay with that. I have

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lost everyone. I'm here. Oh, okay.

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I watched Strange Darling because that's a film everybody else is talking

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about. And don't spoil that for me. I've heard it's amazing. I am not

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going to spoil anything. But it runs like very non

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linear, you know, like. Like a Pulp Fiction does. It runs in

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chapters but they tell the chapters in different order

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than that. They go obviously. But it all, it all comes together

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in plot because it's one of those things where there's a killer

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and you see dead people around and you don't know who the killer is.

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But you're very, you're very surprised when the turn

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happens and Kyle Gner is not an

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untolerable in that movie. He. That's probably the wrong word I'm looking

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for here. But people say they hate Kyle Gner and bad

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things happen to him in horror films much like Justin Long. And he

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doesn't suck in this movie. But you're wondering why a

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killer would carry a gun. And you'll find out why a killer is

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carrying a gun in this movie. And I know again no

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spoilers here. It's just enjoyable.

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And I talk about this. Suzanne Lurie shot by

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a first time DoP. Can you guess who that is?

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X a first time Director of photography.

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Yeah, it's hopefully someone related to Dean Cundy.

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If somebody you've known it for from TV and movies since forever.

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It's Giovanni Rabisi. Yeah,

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no kidding. I did not know that.

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I found that. I found that out from somebody else and I was like well

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I. I respect this film more now because it's. It looks great.

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It's shot in 35 millimeter and it says it right at the beginning that

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it's shot in 35 millimeter. And just,

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just a good time until the end. And you know,

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nobody has a happy ending except for you know,

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the person at the end of the movie. Put that way.

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Okay, there's a lot of dead bodies in

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this movie. Like yeah, this one, this one won. And then you know.

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Yeah but strange darling,

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listen to the hype. I'd say go, go check it out.

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Other stuff I've re watched. Oh, I have to

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mention this. I watched Rollerblade for the first time. The notorious Roller

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Blade movie. Post apocalyptic,

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full frontal nude women or nuns I guess

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in a wasteland fighting other gangs looking for a

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crystal or something. And there is an awful puppet in the movie.

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This made about thousand dollars. But I can't stop watching.

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It appears like six of these movies. I had no idea.

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But I may have to go watch more of them because it

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was terrible. But you know, stuff kept happening to say hey,

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I'll keep Watching this, you know, so it's strange.

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You know the Rollerblade series, There's a roller. Rollerblade 7

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and then there was a roller gator which may be connected, I'm not sure.

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Yeah, this is a low budget movie and it

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shows, it shows. But you know what? If you want to see

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fully nude girls praying to some weird smiley face triangle

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God with, with nuns, go check out Rollerblade

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because you know, they probably. So it's

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Witchcraft on wheels. I don't even know, man, because oh

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my God, it's, it's so strange. And I think it's

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important to give like plot points that the Rollerblade. But they have,

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they pray to some weird God that,

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that when you smile, when it flashes light and a

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smiley face comes up on the screen, it heals

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any wound you could possibly have. And nuns

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and fully nude women, they're probably to get paid to be there. And so

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the way I feel bad for them because they didn't get paid for it to

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be in the movie probably. Maybe some, some spam on the craft service table perhaps,

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you know. Well, I mean you had me at nuns.

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Yeah, Wasteland nuns.

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Yeah, that's about it for me though. I,

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I watched more but I couldn't tell you what that is.

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But tonight we're, we're going, we're going in

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with one X's favorites for sure for one of these films

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about, you know,

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insubordinate humans who, who are made of parts and

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get sacrificed in unique ways with

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parts. The Clonus Whore and Logan's Run.

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They're very different but at the same time kind of the same in certain

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ways. But yeah, that's what we're doing tonight.

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And we'll start in order, I believe.

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No, let's start out over. We'll talk about cloners horror first, I think because this

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is 79 Logan 77 or 76, I forget.

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Let's see. Yes, 76. 77 was the Logan's

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Run TV show that I ever watched.

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Okay. The Cloners Horror 1979. You'll hear more about that

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after this trailer.

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Something frightening is happening at a secret place

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called Clonus.

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Will the truth ever get out?

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You all know what I stand for. I think it's time that

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I started paying back this country for some of the good things it's

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given me.

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It's all very step by step standardized is practical.

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Lena. We're being watched, mister. What are you talking about,

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Richard? Why would they watch us? For what reason? I don't

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know.

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Lena. There's something Strange happening here that we're. Not allowed to know about.

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There's something wrong. We've been busted into Clonus.

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A place where science and nightmare merge.

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What are you worried about? It can't get away. Where no one can

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escape the horrors that await them.

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Suppose Churchill or Roosevelt had been able to live for nearly 200 years and

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still function for the world. Or stop. Or Hitler.

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No. No.

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Please, no.

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Your ear is just like mine. I just noticed.

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Notice?

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Even I'm expendable if it means keeping clones alive.

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Don't stop at nothing to keep it a secret.

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Because at Clonus, the only thing they don't use

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is the scream. Peter Graves Dick

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Sargent Timothy Donnelly Paulette

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Breen Keenan Wynn parts

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the Clonus Horror. The motion picture that

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will steal your heart and your liver

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and your kidneys and your eyes and your limbs.

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The clones horror from 1979.

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Your cheaper plot synopsis is this. In a seemingly perfect

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society, one member discovers the truth about the outside world

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as well as their ultimate purpose. This is directed by Robert

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S. Fiveman. Like. Like Slap

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Me five, I guess. Strange. A five

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son. Yes. This is how it feels to chew five sun.

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Was a producer a lot of things, but didn't direct many things.

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Produced In Search of for five episodes. That's probably the biggest thing that you look

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at right now is five In Search of episodes.

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So didn't do much and that's kind of a. Yeah, I don't even know.

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Written by Ron Smith, Bob Sullivan and Merle A.

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Schreibman. I'd like to find out more what they did because I think this film

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is very interesting. Stars Peter Graves.

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Where are we at here? Eileen Deed shows up as Dana.

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Yeah. Yes, indeed. Tim Donnelly as Richard.

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Where we had here Dick Sargent, not Dick York as Dr.

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Jameson. Had to say it like that, you know, because. Yeah,

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one's just called Clone. There's more people in this film.

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We'll talk more about this in the Milken win. I'm sorry. How can I forget

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as Jake Noble in this movie. Your acting

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royalty in the film. Keenan Wynn Clonus

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Horror Again. I enjoyed the

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hell out of this. I'll kick it to Suzanne first and find out what her

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thoughts are in Clonus Horror. Oh God. This is

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one of Pat's favorite movies. So of

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course I had to dive in. I love this movie.

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What they did with what they had to work with and

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just such a low budget, but managed to get everything

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across. Let me just start

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off with evil Dr. Dick Sargent.

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He pulled that off. I was not expecting him to Be

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that evil. I love

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that. The idea that rich people farming

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their own clones to eventually replace their

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parts as they got older. And the big

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conspiracy theory, it was, it was done

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very, very well. I love it. But the

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only. I only have one issue with this movie. The pacing

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is a little off because you start off on the happy note,

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then you get like the real horror of the thing.

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A little bit of happy. Some do try to figure some stuff out.

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Then it gets really super exciting. Then it kind of slows down a little bit.

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It's just the. That's the only problem I have with the movie is the

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pacing. But I just love

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the, the idea. And you guys all know about the,

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the seven figure settlement that DreamWorks had to pay out with

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this movie, right? Yeah, because of that. The island,

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that Michael Bay. Yeah. I mean, did they actually think that they were

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going to get away with it? It's Michael Bay, bruv. He can do anything.

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Yeah, well, green films. Well, yeah, well that,

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that's pretty much a given. But yeah, I guess it was an undisclosed

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seven figure settlement over the copyright infringement.

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I think there were over like 100 points of similarity.

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I mean, did they think all of the principles were dead? This is the one

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thing that I have a hard time wrapping my head around, that they.

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No one would notice it was a movie that nobody had ever

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seen. Did they really truly believe this?

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But I put Michael Bay up there with James Cameron.

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Just horrible human beings. But the

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thing about this movie, the parts that are

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really intense are so incredibly intense.

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You don't think certain things are going to play out the

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way that they do. I mean, I really.

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Okay, spoilers coming.

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Everybody dies. Face it,

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it's not a happy ending. You have to. I've always

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felt a little bit, you know, let down by

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the fact that everybody dies. They are

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ruthless to keep their secret, but, you know,

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they've got the most powerful backing in the world behind

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them. So yeah, they probably can get away with it until something

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got leaked. And you don't know any more about that because

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the film ends right there.

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It's one of those movies. Every once in a while I think to myself,

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well, maybe if it was made in more capable hands. Well,

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it was made again and it was truly awful.

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I think maybe we just leave this one alone and just let it be

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what it is. You just, it.

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You get kind of caught up in the drama of,

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you know, these clones, they really.

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That's all they are. They mostly lobotomize them,

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but you know, they're still people

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at the hearts. And then they unceremoniously.

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Hey, you're going to America. Cool. Enjoy your party.

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And. Oh, here, drink this. And you

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do get another 30 seconds of sheer horror

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before you go to sleep. It was a good twist, like, hey,

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you're gonna go. You're soon on a foreign land. Hey, you're going to America.

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And then America is the lab. I guess

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they go to go get preserved. Oh,

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yeah. It's just. There's something just

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is so incredibly intelligent and well thought out

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about this movie that it really. It's. It's almost

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forgotten. And I did. Look, this is the only

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movie that five Cent ever directed.

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Yeah. And it's so. Well, I mean, you have Peter Graves there.

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Just. You have like. You don't have a huge, big money

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cast here, but you've got people that

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are incredibly talented. I mean,

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Keenan Wynn. This man has been acting long. Was.

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Was acting for Jesus. Decades, until he got

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blacklisted for a while. And it's.

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It's so well put together and it's such an

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interesting topic. So, yeah, this one. This has

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always been a favorite. I was gonna go

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pull out my copy, but it was too nice out,

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so I sat outside and ended up watching it on YouTube.

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So it's easily available.

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It's. It's a good movie. It truly is.

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It just captures that, you know, I was

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like, 70s sci fi. It's more. And this, you know,

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the. It's. There's an intelligence behind it.

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It's not mindless spaceships and laser beams,

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which I really don't like. There is a science

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behind it. So, yeah, this one's always been a big favorite

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of mine. So. By the way my

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mother would love the most is Tim Donnelly, the guy who plays Richard, our running

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clone of this movie, did 100 turn 22 episodes

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of Emergence of Emergency, the TV show. Oh, wow.

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I'm gonna love that show. She loved her some Kevin,

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I guess, you know,

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X. What about you, sir? Let me. Let me just do.

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Love me some Julie London from Emergency.

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I'm sort of weird, I guess, in this way,

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because especially in a movie like Parts

472
00:29:33,331 --> 00:29:36,875
where I don't mean to look

473
00:29:36,955 --> 00:29:40,563
for logic, and when I do, it's in the weirdest

474
00:29:40,619 --> 00:29:44,363
freaking places. Like, can I accept that?

475
00:29:44,499 --> 00:29:48,363
I don't know. I guess it's the University of Southern California

476
00:29:48,499 --> 00:29:52,411
where the cloning compound is where everyone

477
00:29:52,483 --> 00:29:56,161
just wears track suits that looks like Susan Anton in

478
00:29:56,193 --> 00:29:59,665
Golden Girl. I can accept that. I can accept the fact

479
00:29:59,705 --> 00:30:03,857
that they will take clone parts and ship them off to rich

480
00:30:03,921 --> 00:30:07,617
people. It's like, you know, for the cost of a cup

481
00:30:07,641 --> 00:30:11,577
of coffee a day, you too could have a spleen waiting for

482
00:30:11,601 --> 00:30:14,325
you. Brand new. Should yours go awry.

483
00:30:15,625 --> 00:30:19,177
I can accept that. I'll take it. What I can't

484
00:30:19,241 --> 00:30:23,353
understand is the President elect of the United States

485
00:30:23,449 --> 00:30:26,657
just roaming around suburbia and even

486
00:30:26,721 --> 00:30:30,449
on a boat with no Secret Service protection.

487
00:30:30,617 --> 00:30:34,057
How is that possible? That man would have guards

488
00:30:34,201 --> 00:30:38,193
up his. Up his bung hole. He can't just

489
00:30:38,369 --> 00:30:41,977
scoot around unnoticed. That's the

490
00:30:42,001 --> 00:30:45,801
stuff that bothers me about this. Also, you were talking

491
00:30:45,833 --> 00:30:49,319
about how the scenes or intense. And you know what? Some of them

492
00:30:49,367 --> 00:30:53,351
actually really are. The harvesting of clone

493
00:30:53,423 --> 00:30:57,607
parts is excruciating to watch. It's really

494
00:30:57,751 --> 00:31:01,075
y. But once Richard

495
00:31:02,095 --> 00:31:05,275
realizes that something is amiss,

496
00:31:08,055 --> 00:31:11,935
once he learns where Milwaukee is, which is really the

497
00:31:11,975 --> 00:31:15,399
key to the entire history. Oh, my God,

498
00:31:15,447 --> 00:31:19,235
Wisconsin. And solved everything. There is more running

499
00:31:19,615 --> 00:31:23,623
and more hallways in this movie than in

500
00:31:23,679 --> 00:31:30,475
Shakma tubes,

501
00:31:30,855 --> 00:31:32,635
underground corridors,

502
00:31:33,415 --> 00:31:37,335
streets. It's just. They may

503
00:31:37,375 --> 00:31:41,115
as well have been, you know, sponsored by

504
00:31:41,695 --> 00:31:45,355
Reebok or something. There's just. It's so athletic.

505
00:31:45,745 --> 00:31:48,793
That. All being said, I really don't hate this movie.

506
00:31:48,849 --> 00:31:52,473
I think it's funny, Suzanne, that you were like, oh, no,

507
00:31:52,529 --> 00:31:56,321
everybody dies. And I'm like, suzanne, you love the 70s.

508
00:31:56,393 --> 00:32:00,529
You understand that is the bleakest decade

509
00:32:00,697 --> 00:32:04,385
for filmmaking so far. If anybody had

510
00:32:04,425 --> 00:32:06,725
lived, I would have been disappointed.

511
00:32:07,545 --> 00:32:11,505
Oh, I know. But that's, I think, what makes it drives

512
00:32:11,585 --> 00:32:15,585
the point home. And that last scene,

513
00:32:17,285 --> 00:32:21,745
it's just. It happens

514
00:32:22,205 --> 00:32:26,661
that when he's announcing his run for presidency,

515
00:32:26,813 --> 00:32:30,461
even though we all know what happened, and you just kind of

516
00:32:30,493 --> 00:32:33,853
sit there with your jaw hanging out there, even though you

517
00:32:33,869 --> 00:32:36,145
didn't. There's.

518
00:32:37,405 --> 00:32:41,025
How can I put this? He's there.

519
00:32:41,605 --> 00:32:45,485
It's an inevitability. Yes. And then at the

520
00:32:45,525 --> 00:32:48,265
very last second, where they cut the movie.

521
00:32:49,005 --> 00:32:52,065
So what can you tell us about this? And holds up the tape.

522
00:32:53,325 --> 00:32:56,693
So it's just. But that's.

523
00:32:56,749 --> 00:32:59,501
Like I said, I think if it did have a happy ending, I'd hate it.

524
00:32:59,653 --> 00:33:03,805
I'd absolutely hate it. But, you know, that's in line with other political

525
00:33:03,885 --> 00:33:07,045
movies of the 70s as well. So, like, you know,

526
00:33:07,165 --> 00:33:10,717
all the President's Men ends with sound

527
00:33:10,781 --> 00:33:13,493
bites and a teletext machine.

528
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:17,485
The Parallax View ends like that, Winter kills ends

529
00:33:17,525 --> 00:33:20,773
like that. So it's very much in that vein

530
00:33:20,829 --> 00:33:24,573
of we are in control and you are fucking not,

531
00:33:24,709 --> 00:33:27,757
and we can do anything we want. Oh,

532
00:33:27,781 --> 00:33:31,225
yeah. But, yeah, I don't hate the movie.

533
00:33:31,725 --> 00:33:35,477
There are parts where I probably shouldn't have laughed as loudly as I

534
00:33:35,501 --> 00:33:36,065
did.

535
00:33:38,925 --> 00:33:42,181
Okay, I. I have to admit there is one scene where I just kind

536
00:33:42,213 --> 00:33:45,661
of. I. I chuckled when

537
00:33:45,693 --> 00:33:49,865
Lena is standing in the window when he makes his way back home.

538
00:33:50,205 --> 00:33:53,669
Funny man. Funny, but it's creepy,

539
00:33:53,757 --> 00:33:57,445
but kind of funny at the same time because she's got like that,

540
00:33:57,525 --> 00:34:00,869
that goofy ass permigran and you know what

541
00:34:00,917 --> 00:34:04,397
happened to her. And he's. He's just a

542
00:34:04,421 --> 00:34:08,509
clone. He is only a clone and doesn't. Doesn't quite.

543
00:34:08,677 --> 00:34:12,301
He doesn't know. But it just is weird that she's.

544
00:34:12,453 --> 00:34:16,805
It's. It's like I said, mannequin, like, but you know, you know, being lomotomized,

545
00:34:16,885 --> 00:34:20,077
that's kind of what happens. She's like, they adorably gave

546
00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:23,613
her cerebral palsy and she's making that face right there, you know?

547
00:34:23,749 --> 00:34:27,545
Yeah, she's got that clone lazy eye,

548
00:34:28,365 --> 00:34:31,085
which happens after a lobotomy, I guess. Oh, yeah.

549
00:34:31,125 --> 00:34:34,549
No, I don't know. Feel free to cut this

550
00:34:34,597 --> 00:34:38,765
out. I'll just tell you guys. But the fate of the nobles

551
00:34:38,925 --> 00:34:42,157
of Keenan Wynn and Lorene Tuttle

552
00:34:42,261 --> 00:34:45,893
when their house fucking blew up. I was not happy.

553
00:34:46,029 --> 00:34:49,173
I laughed so hard. I'm so sorry.

554
00:34:49,269 --> 00:34:51,465
I thought that was so funny.

555
00:34:52,725 --> 00:34:55,789
Oh my God. Just out of nowhere, ha ha.

556
00:34:55,837 --> 00:34:59,989
We're having a good time. Isn't it a lovely after.

557
00:35:00,037 --> 00:35:03,037
She's getting frisky with them. Like, my God, let the man get it on one

558
00:35:03,061 --> 00:35:05,829
more time. Turn on abc. The wheel is on,

559
00:35:05,877 --> 00:35:06,505
honey.

560
00:35:09,245 --> 00:35:11,773
So, yeah, that made me laugh. But yeah,

561
00:35:11,949 --> 00:35:15,173
very good. Good bleakness, good seventies sci

562
00:35:15,229 --> 00:35:18,225
fi political drama, sort of combined.

563
00:35:19,365 --> 00:35:23,677
I really hated how the clones were not

564
00:35:23,821 --> 00:35:27,845
educated a lot, so they all sounded like supreme

565
00:35:27,925 --> 00:35:31,591
dumbasses for the first 45 minutes of the flick. I know what's

566
00:35:31,623 --> 00:35:35,095
necessary. It still got on my nerves. And yet I'd

567
00:35:35,135 --> 00:35:38,327
watch it again. I'm over here nitpicking of a movie that I would watch in

568
00:35:38,351 --> 00:35:42,247
a heartbeat. So never mind me, I've just undercut everything that

569
00:35:42,271 --> 00:35:45,847
I've said about the movie. Except, oh no, Pat wants to

570
00:35:45,871 --> 00:35:49,151
watch it this weekend. So I'm like, yeah, I'll watch it again. We'll watch

571
00:35:49,183 --> 00:35:51,671
our good copy. And not the shitty one that's on.

572
00:35:51,703 --> 00:35:55,095
YouTube, like, you know, in the colony live, you know,

573
00:35:55,135 --> 00:35:58,143
where, by the way, this review is brought to you by Adidas. Because, you know,

574
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:02,047
those track suits are just banging throughout this whole film. And yeah,

575
00:36:02,071 --> 00:36:05,631
they're supposed to be, you know, sort of mindless because they're not supposed

576
00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:09,111
to think about, you know, Their situation or what's going on.

577
00:36:09,263 --> 00:36:12,775
And while they all have the same almost

578
00:36:12,855 --> 00:36:16,783
like cattle tags on their ears, that's what it reminded me of.

579
00:36:16,879 --> 00:36:20,919
Like when you tagged that tag, your head of cattle. Yeah, those clips,

580
00:36:21,007 --> 00:36:24,343
those little clips. And yeah, that's supposed

581
00:36:24,359 --> 00:36:27,221
to question anything. So I can see why they kept them pretty mindless.

582
00:36:27,383 --> 00:36:30,497
But colonoscore, man, first time watching

583
00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:33,561
me again to tail into

584
00:36:33,593 --> 00:36:37,465
the 70s. I really enjoyed myself, you know, pretty much

585
00:36:37,505 --> 00:36:40,745
the whole time with this because, you know, you find out,

586
00:36:40,865 --> 00:36:43,825
you don't wait like an hour for like a slow burn to find out what's

587
00:36:43,865 --> 00:36:47,033
going on here. You kind of find out like right away,

588
00:36:47,209 --> 00:36:50,713
like, hey, you're going to America. They have a whole party for him and then

589
00:36:50,849 --> 00:36:53,985
next thing you know he's sitting on a table getting examined.

590
00:36:54,025 --> 00:36:57,683
And here, you drink this. And by the way, we're going to seal you

591
00:36:57,699 --> 00:37:01,259
for freshness. And then, you know, that's basically what they do.

592
00:37:01,307 --> 00:37:05,179
They. They freeze dry them in those bags. And Neil diamond

593
00:37:05,227 --> 00:37:06,935
tried to warn us about this.

594
00:37:08,755 --> 00:37:12,483
With what? I'm sorry, of coming to America. Oh yeah,

595
00:37:12,619 --> 00:37:16,735
they're coming to America today. In bags

596
00:37:17,915 --> 00:37:21,767
on the corridors and on the planes to

597
00:37:21,791 --> 00:37:23,795
go in a Ziploc bag.

598
00:37:28,015 --> 00:37:31,343
Wisconsin. It reminds

599
00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:34,551
me of the first episode of Erie,

600
00:37:34,583 --> 00:37:38,447
Indiana. If you guys know what that show is. It was a Joe Dante

601
00:37:38,511 --> 00:37:42,223
production. It was on NBC to where they had twin. The twins on

602
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,399
the show and the weird mother. And the way they

603
00:37:45,527 --> 00:37:49,215
stayed young was the mother was a Tupperware, A Tupperware salesperson

604
00:37:49,375 --> 00:37:52,423
and she had giant Tupperware to keep her and her sons preserved.

605
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,759
And this was the weird thing about the episode. And you know,

606
00:37:55,887 --> 00:37:58,327
that's. That's brilliant television. I love, I love Erie,

607
00:37:58,351 --> 00:38:02,063
Indiana. I digress. That is one of the only

608
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,271
episodes of Erie, Indiana I ever watched.

609
00:38:05,463 --> 00:38:09,395
Fun. It's fun of this film.

610
00:38:09,695 --> 00:38:13,847
I like the idea of this whole organ harvesting thing like Rick

611
00:38:13,991 --> 00:38:17,373
got money or well, in case. In case of Keenan when

612
00:38:17,429 --> 00:38:20,853
his brother has money to. To make him a clone. Because I

613
00:38:20,869 --> 00:38:24,445
love that reveal when it finally makes it to. I think

614
00:38:24,485 --> 00:38:28,093
we call it his person or his somebody and

615
00:38:28,149 --> 00:38:30,917
it turns out his other part.

616
00:38:31,021 --> 00:38:34,973
And yeah, you had that reveal and just

617
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:38,397
evil being connected everywhere. I love that this.

618
00:38:38,421 --> 00:38:41,869
They had this whole Santa Clara, California vibe

619
00:38:41,917 --> 00:38:45,517
to where, you know, the guy that's. That's driving the duck pepper truck is

620
00:38:45,541 --> 00:38:48,645
as connected as the guy walking down the street to say, hey,

621
00:38:48,765 --> 00:38:52,405
we see this car going down the road here and it's going

622
00:38:52,445 --> 00:38:56,333
this way. And I don't know what dream of Dreams. This is the most

623
00:38:56,429 --> 00:39:00,213
unrealistic thing about the film for me is that Oldsmobile thinking it was.

624
00:39:00,229 --> 00:39:04,173
It was gonna catch a Lotus if that Lotus just like went like full speed.

625
00:39:04,269 --> 00:39:07,813
You know, I don't understand that logic. But, you know, but I'm

626
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:11,521
here, I'm hearing over there. But the only real crime

627
00:39:11,553 --> 00:39:14,873
for this film, for me altogether, is that I wish there was more of it.

628
00:39:14,969 --> 00:39:18,657
I wish, you know, this was a 70s, like miniseries or like

629
00:39:18,681 --> 00:39:22,105
this was based on a series of books that, you know, I can go explore

630
00:39:22,145 --> 00:39:25,649
the books maybe, but I don't think it was that crazy successful

631
00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:29,041
to say, like, kind of like V was where V had like a series

632
00:39:29,073 --> 00:39:32,085
of novels that you could check out and.

633
00:39:32,865 --> 00:39:37,153
But yeah, I wish there was more of this and more. More exploration

634
00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:40,725
of this world of, you know, creating parts for the future,

635
00:39:41,385 --> 00:39:45,625
spare parts, if you will, and just. Yeah, I know

636
00:39:45,745 --> 00:39:48,993
the characters are mindless, but they're written that way.

637
00:39:49,169 --> 00:39:51,769
They're not supposed to guess where they are, what's going on.

638
00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:55,385
So the fact that they're, they're all. They're all kind of dense

639
00:39:55,465 --> 00:39:59,025
and stupid and just like running, you know, not free thinking.

640
00:39:59,065 --> 00:40:02,043
Because there's that one scene where the guy says, well, I just didn't want to

641
00:40:02,059 --> 00:40:05,699
win this time. They feel like, oh, you know, this, this one's broken,

642
00:40:05,787 --> 00:40:09,371
you know. But yeah,

643
00:40:09,483 --> 00:40:12,835
good stuff. The writers I mentioned didn't

644
00:40:12,875 --> 00:40:16,187
do much besides this, so I

645
00:40:16,211 --> 00:40:19,955
don't know why that is. Maybe again, it wasn't very successful,

646
00:40:20,115 --> 00:40:24,203
but I, I enjoy my time with it. It's very 70s

647
00:40:24,279 --> 00:40:27,505
going into the 80s. So I,

648
00:40:28,005 --> 00:40:32,165
yeah, I would watch this again. Let's go with that X

649
00:40:32,205 --> 00:40:35,785
File thoughts, sir? I have a point that I can't prove.

650
00:40:36,125 --> 00:40:39,589
I remember, or I think I remember this

651
00:40:39,637 --> 00:40:43,585
movie being broadcast on NBC.

652
00:40:44,245 --> 00:40:48,357
I may be conflating that with Colossus, the Forbid

653
00:40:48,421 --> 00:40:52,005
project, but the interesting thing to me about the Clonus horror

654
00:40:52,045 --> 00:40:56,135
is when that president elect knight Peter Graves gets up

655
00:40:56,255 --> 00:41:00,111
to make a speech, the only microphones there are NBC

656
00:41:00,183 --> 00:41:03,879
microphones. So like, no other network cared

657
00:41:03,967 --> 00:41:06,515
about what this guy had to say.

658
00:41:09,535 --> 00:41:12,847
And by the way, I never even noticed that I

659
00:41:12,871 --> 00:41:15,711
like the end of this movie because, you know, the whole, the whole plot,

660
00:41:15,783 --> 00:41:19,277
you know, is dependent on this tape. And this tape they still.

661
00:41:19,431 --> 00:41:22,737
And the fact that, you know, they got, they got the word out before

662
00:41:22,921 --> 00:41:26,641
their, Their untimely demise. What was.

663
00:41:26,833 --> 00:41:30,457
Was pretty cool. By the way. Tell us about the Clonus thing because

664
00:41:30,561 --> 00:41:34,057
you know what's gonna happen next. Either the company is fucked

665
00:41:34,081 --> 00:41:36,805
or they got a move, location or whatever.

666
00:41:37,425 --> 00:41:39,845
West World has fallen, if you will.

667
00:41:40,825 --> 00:41:43,969
I think the end is perfect for me.

668
00:41:44,017 --> 00:41:47,261
I think it's great. No, I agree. I think if there were a sequel,

669
00:41:47,293 --> 00:41:51,085
they should have told the clones they're going to Mexico. That's how part

670
00:41:51,125 --> 00:41:53,785
two should have been. Yeah, I'd watch this again.

671
00:41:55,365 --> 00:41:59,077
It's fun, even if it's a little long in the tooth for me.

672
00:41:59,141 --> 00:42:03,065
Like I said, so much running, so much

673
00:42:03,805 --> 00:42:07,745
non natural fabric. But yeah, it's a good time.

674
00:42:08,165 --> 00:42:11,885
Cool. Suzanne, is that for me, my only big

675
00:42:11,965 --> 00:42:15,861
problem with the movie is. And you both have pointed out the

676
00:42:15,893 --> 00:42:19,233
same things, the pacing is terrible.

677
00:42:19,409 --> 00:42:23,089
It's. There's not really any even keel.

678
00:42:23,137 --> 00:42:27,713
And I don't think that was done to keep everybody unsettled.

679
00:42:27,849 --> 00:42:31,521
I think it was done because these are,

680
00:42:31,673 --> 00:42:35,377
from the looks of it, a lot of first timers, they didn't quite

681
00:42:35,561 --> 00:42:38,937
understand how to pace because there

682
00:42:38,961 --> 00:42:42,015
are a lot this,

683
00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:45,603
there are certain things they could have expanded on that they

684
00:42:45,659 --> 00:42:49,019
didn't and certain things that they expanded on that they

685
00:42:49,067 --> 00:42:52,571
really didn't need to. I still, once again, this is,

686
00:42:52,643 --> 00:42:56,211
this is way up there. I just love, I love

687
00:42:56,243 --> 00:42:59,739
how bleak it is. I love the ending.

688
00:42:59,827 --> 00:43:03,387
I, you know, it's, it's always just going to

689
00:43:03,411 --> 00:43:06,987
be that for me. I can't even count how many times I've watched it.

690
00:43:07,011 --> 00:43:10,655
And apparently I have to watch it again this weekend, which I'm done with.

691
00:43:11,205 --> 00:43:13,745
So, yeah, this is, it's great.

692
00:43:14,205 --> 00:43:18,162
Bleak 70s sci fi. You know you're watching

693
00:43:18,238 --> 00:43:21,509
a 70s movie when the title graphic has

694
00:43:21,557 --> 00:43:24,025
no capital letters. Nope.

695
00:43:24,485 --> 00:43:28,625
They couldn't afford them. No, no, too much money.

696
00:43:29,165 --> 00:43:31,677
Didn't have room for that in post production.

697
00:43:31,861 --> 00:43:35,501
No. Yeah, it's like Suzanne said, I think in

698
00:43:35,533 --> 00:43:39,123
more capable hands, you know, this film and not

699
00:43:39,139 --> 00:43:41,739
that I did enjoy time with it because I think it was, I think it

700
00:43:41,747 --> 00:43:45,043
was shot very well. You know, the actors,

701
00:43:45,139 --> 00:43:47,931
they had, you know, did what they could with what they had.

702
00:43:48,043 --> 00:43:51,475
I think, I think it's paced

703
00:43:51,515 --> 00:43:54,939
incredible because I feel, I feel the desperation like

704
00:43:54,987 --> 00:43:58,507
through most of the movie. So I'm not bored with it. I checked

705
00:43:58,531 --> 00:44:01,659
the time one time, it was like an hour and I couldn't believe that it

706
00:44:01,667 --> 00:44:04,491
was an hour in already and only like 30 minutes to go. But I like

707
00:44:04,523 --> 00:44:07,979
in like a, like a Don Siegel's hands, you know,

708
00:44:08,147 --> 00:44:11,483
so somebody like that, this film, it could

709
00:44:11,499 --> 00:44:15,147
have been like a much bigger production and that,

710
00:44:15,251 --> 00:44:19,335
that intensity would have been exponentially more for me.

711
00:44:20,075 --> 00:44:22,771
But yeah, I, I enjoy your time with it though. I would watch this again,

712
00:44:22,803 --> 00:44:25,375
like you Guys said go, go find it on YouTube.

713
00:44:26,515 --> 00:44:30,299
I found it on a friend's video. Video server, but that. That's. I digress.

714
00:44:30,467 --> 00:44:34,375
But the clones horror from 1979.

715
00:44:35,115 --> 00:44:38,923
Check it out. Next up though, is the true blue

716
00:44:38,979 --> 00:44:42,427
classic that I Know X has been shopping at the best to talk about.

717
00:44:42,491 --> 00:44:46,027
So we. We programmed it in a show. And I know,

718
00:44:46,171 --> 00:44:49,995
and I know, and I know, and I know. It's Logan's Run from

719
00:44:50,035 --> 00:44:53,907
1976. Delete, delete, delete. No, that's wrong.

720
00:44:53,931 --> 00:44:57,735
That's Matt Hardy. Renew, renew, renewal. Right to the trailer.

721
00:44:58,435 --> 00:45:02,375
MGM puts the future in the palm of your hand.

722
00:45:03,955 --> 00:45:07,731
This is the 23rd century, where sophisticated technology

723
00:45:07,843 --> 00:45:10,895
has created an automated world of wonders.

724
00:45:13,675 --> 00:45:17,135
A world beyond imagination. Until now.

725
00:45:19,875 --> 00:45:23,865
It is filled with beauty and the vitality of youth.

726
00:45:24,285 --> 00:45:26,825
Pleasure is the way of life.

727
00:45:27,965 --> 00:45:31,394
But in the 23rd century, life lasts

728
00:45:31,518 --> 00:45:35,157
30 years. Not one day less, not one

729
00:45:35,221 --> 00:45:38,853
day more. When the crystal in the palm of your hand

730
00:45:38,909 --> 00:45:42,465
flashes its final message. Your time is up.

731
00:45:43,245 --> 00:45:46,781
But there are a few rebels who run in search of

732
00:45:46,813 --> 00:45:49,955
sanctuary. Logan,

733
00:45:50,255 --> 00:45:54,167
trained to enforce the law, dares to become a runner

734
00:45:54,231 --> 00:45:57,367
himself. He and the girl who loves him become the

735
00:45:57,391 --> 00:46:00,967
hunted when they set off on Logan's Run,

736
00:46:01,111 --> 00:46:06,454
a fantastic adventure through the 23rd

737
00:46:07,205 --> 00:46:10,213
century.

738
00:46:10,964 --> 00:46:18,107
The 23rd

739
00:46:18,171 --> 00:46:21,187
century will be here sooner than you think.

740
00:46:21,371 --> 00:46:24,655
Coming this summer. Logan's Run.

741
00:46:29,355 --> 00:46:32,883
Logan's run from 1976, directed by

742
00:46:32,899 --> 00:46:35,655
Michael Anderson. He gave us some cool stuff,

743
00:46:36,235 --> 00:46:39,815
including Doc Savage, the Man of Bronze,

744
00:46:40,245 --> 00:46:44,733
Orca, of course, because you gotta love Orca and

745
00:46:44,749 --> 00:46:48,333
some other. Some other good, good stuff. But those two things alone should

746
00:46:48,389 --> 00:46:51,957
say, hey, this guy. This guy's aces in

747
00:46:51,981 --> 00:46:55,325
your book. Writer David Z.

748
00:46:55,365 --> 00:46:58,341
Like Goodman, I forget what he wrote. Michael F.

749
00:46:58,373 --> 00:47:03,253
Nolan. But I know George Clayton Johnson because he helped write a

750
00:47:03,269 --> 00:47:06,821
good bulk of the Twilight Zone original series. So that's. That's where I know George

751
00:47:06,853 --> 00:47:08,145
Clayton Johnson from.

752
00:47:10,005 --> 00:47:14,079
Stars Michael York as Logan 5.

753
00:47:14,197 --> 00:47:17,617
Right, right. X doesn't say. Yeah.

754
00:47:17,735 --> 00:47:20,625
Logan 5 and Francis 7.

755
00:47:20,925 --> 00:47:24,253
First name and number. Jenny Agitor.

756
00:47:24,389 --> 00:47:28,013
Looking so good in this movie as Jessica. I forget.

757
00:47:28,109 --> 00:47:31,925
Who cares? Richard Jordan as

758
00:47:31,965 --> 00:47:34,225
Francis Number seven. Apparently,

759
00:47:35,385 --> 00:47:38,697
Roscoe Lee Brown unceremoniously plays bot

760
00:47:38,721 --> 00:47:42,409
in box in this movie. I'll talk about that in a

761
00:47:42,417 --> 00:47:46,473
minute. Farrah Fawcett shows up

762
00:47:46,569 --> 00:47:49,881
as Holly with all her faucet do. And then her

763
00:47:49,913 --> 00:47:53,217
hair goes flat. It's very Sad. Michael Henderson

764
00:47:53,281 --> 00:47:56,817
Jr. As Doc, the guy that's gonna change his face.

765
00:47:57,001 --> 00:48:00,233
And the king of kings of this movie,

766
00:48:00,289 --> 00:48:04,185
in my opinion. Mr. Peter used to. You sent off

767
00:48:04,925 --> 00:48:08,453
one of those guys that played Doctor who. As old man.

768
00:48:08,629 --> 00:48:12,437
Old man who has many cats. And we'll talk about that too,

769
00:48:12,581 --> 00:48:15,813
I'm sure. I'll start

770
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:18,941
with Suzanne, because X is going to gush on this and I'm fine with that.

771
00:48:19,053 --> 00:48:22,213
But go for it, sue. And tell us your thought on

772
00:48:22,229 --> 00:48:25,973
Logan's Run. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I really,

773
00:48:26,029 --> 00:48:29,961
really, really got. I. You gotta go to X. You got to

774
00:48:30,153 --> 00:48:34,645
ask gush on Logan's Run, so I know you want to. Deep breath.

775
00:48:35,265 --> 00:48:38,785
Holy damn, I love this movie. It is so good.

776
00:48:38,865 --> 00:48:42,689
It is so fun. And let me tell you one reason why. It's very personal

777
00:48:42,777 --> 00:48:46,617
for me. In the 70s, of course, there were a whole bunch of

778
00:48:46,641 --> 00:48:50,193
sci fi blockbusters that came out. Logan's Run

779
00:48:50,369 --> 00:48:53,857
I was not allowed to see even though it was

780
00:48:53,881 --> 00:48:57,239
rated pg. But my parents wouldn't let me

781
00:48:57,367 --> 00:49:00,503
watch Logan's Run, which is very disappointing. I wanted to go

782
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:03,247
to the theater and see this. The next year,

783
00:49:03,391 --> 00:49:06,791
Damnation Alley came out and I was allowed to

784
00:49:06,823 --> 00:49:10,455
go see it. And you know, every few years I go back

785
00:49:10,495 --> 00:49:14,351
and I revisit Damnation Alley to see if I like it

786
00:49:14,463 --> 00:49:18,155
and I just never do. It's just a terrible,

787
00:49:18,455 --> 00:49:22,305
disappointing movie. That's the highest,

788
00:49:24,325 --> 00:49:27,661
highest point of respect I can give that is that there are pictures and they

789
00:49:27,693 --> 00:49:30,725
do move. So when I finally got to see Logan's

790
00:49:30,765 --> 00:49:33,845
Run, it was worth the wait.

791
00:49:34,005 --> 00:49:37,661
This movie has a lot to say about a lot of different topics. But most

792
00:49:37,693 --> 00:49:41,421
of all, it looks fantastic. We get to

793
00:49:41,453 --> 00:49:44,597
see. And it's obviously a miniature when you

794
00:49:44,621 --> 00:49:48,207
see it from a distance, but this great domed

795
00:49:48,311 --> 00:49:51,583
city and shuttle cars going

796
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:54,991
through clear tubes like. Like a habit trail for

797
00:49:55,063 --> 00:49:58,959
humans. And there are fountains and there are

798
00:49:59,047 --> 00:50:04,071
pink lights and they have their own government

799
00:50:04,223 --> 00:50:07,831
sponsored belief system. And there's

800
00:50:07,863 --> 00:50:11,155
a cutoff date for how old you can be.

801
00:50:11,455 --> 00:50:15,219
It's. There are a lot of topics here that are

802
00:50:15,307 --> 00:50:19,375
very heady, let's put it that way.

803
00:50:20,155 --> 00:50:24,655
Michael York as Logan 5 is

804
00:50:25,475 --> 00:50:29,027
really, really good because he starts off as a complete

805
00:50:29,131 --> 00:50:32,091
government guy. He's an assassin.

806
00:50:32,203 --> 00:50:35,815
Sorry, what's the term they use? They retire

807
00:50:36,195 --> 00:50:39,541
people who try to escape. Sandman.

808
00:50:39,693 --> 00:50:42,597
Yeah, yeah. Excuse me, he's a sandman.

809
00:50:42,781 --> 00:50:46,149
And their guns turn people into piles of sand

810
00:50:46,237 --> 00:50:50,213
that people who are on zero turn. Floating vacuum cleaners

811
00:50:50,269 --> 00:50:53,885
come by and suck up off the floor of the mall. I think that's

812
00:50:53,925 --> 00:50:57,653
how it's like a carnival. Just sawdust over puke.

813
00:50:57,709 --> 00:51:01,701
And then, you know, Lenny with nine teeth comes over and just sweeps it up.

814
00:51:01,813 --> 00:51:05,261
Same concept. Sorry, I'm getting ahead of Myself.

815
00:51:05,373 --> 00:51:09,547
Please excuse me. Okay, so, big Dome City. But Logan

816
00:51:09,691 --> 00:51:13,195
is a believer in everything that he

817
00:51:13,235 --> 00:51:16,811
has been taught. And it's not until he receives

818
00:51:16,883 --> 00:51:20,435
the tiniest, tiniest of clues

819
00:51:20,595 --> 00:51:24,003
that he realizes that maybe things are

820
00:51:24,059 --> 00:51:27,175
not all great in the domed city.

821
00:51:27,675 --> 00:51:31,115
The people who reach 30 years of age get onto

822
00:51:31,155 --> 00:51:34,659
this thing called the carousel. And they're dressed up in, like,

823
00:51:34,707 --> 00:51:38,887
this crazy sort of hazmat suit meets corpse

824
00:51:38,951 --> 00:51:42,351
paint. And they get on the carousel and it spins

825
00:51:42,423 --> 00:51:45,903
around. And the idea is that if you make it

826
00:51:45,919 --> 00:51:50,111
to the. I don't know, to the top of this void, then you

827
00:51:50,143 --> 00:51:54,031
will renew and you are reincarnated and you will come back as

828
00:51:54,063 --> 00:51:57,115
another version of yourself.

829
00:51:57,695 --> 00:52:01,319
This movie made in 76. If you haven't seen it now, I'm sorry,

830
00:52:01,367 --> 00:52:04,663
I'm about to spoil it for you. Fucking. Why would you not see

831
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:08,291
this? Logan learns that nobody

832
00:52:08,403 --> 00:52:12,195
renews. Everybody dies. And these

833
00:52:12,235 --> 00:52:15,363
people that he's been chasing are all trying to get to a place

834
00:52:15,419 --> 00:52:19,315
called Sanctuary, where they can live past the age

835
00:52:19,355 --> 00:52:23,083
of 30. And along the way, he picks up Jessica,

836
00:52:23,139 --> 00:52:26,995
Jenny Agator, who is, like, in a. He finds her

837
00:52:27,035 --> 00:52:30,215
in the Star Trek transporter version of Tinder,

838
00:52:31,435 --> 00:52:34,813
and they hook up. Well, they don't hook up right away,

839
00:52:34,869 --> 00:52:38,469
but they. They join together to get to Sanctuary.

840
00:52:38,637 --> 00:52:42,501
So there's a chase because Francis, who is Logan's friend,

841
00:52:42,653 --> 00:52:46,813
now has to chase Logan and Jessica. So he's got. It's the Sandman chasing

842
00:52:46,869 --> 00:52:49,917
the Sandman. And the further they

843
00:52:49,941 --> 00:52:53,797
get into the city, the more they realize

844
00:52:53,861 --> 00:52:57,629
how much they've been lied to. They're, you know, weird little angry

845
00:52:57,717 --> 00:53:01,625
children who live on a lower level called Cubs. And they have knives

846
00:53:01,705 --> 00:53:05,961
and they have. And they have bad teeth. And they've obviously gotten

847
00:53:05,993 --> 00:53:09,321
an advanced script for the warriors. And they all wear vests

848
00:53:09,353 --> 00:53:13,073
and weird shit. And then Kerry's gonna talk

849
00:53:13,089 --> 00:53:16,865
about this later, they run into a robot

850
00:53:17,025 --> 00:53:20,529
called Box. And I think the reason that he's called

851
00:53:20,617 --> 00:53:23,753
Box is because it looks like he was

852
00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:27,633
constructed out of cardboard boxes that were covered with aluminum

853
00:53:27,689 --> 00:53:31,091
foil. And then his arms are just, know, dryer duct.

854
00:53:31,243 --> 00:53:34,683
He looks like something that a fourth grader would make for a science

855
00:53:34,739 --> 00:53:37,867
fair. But he's got all of these people

856
00:53:37,931 --> 00:53:41,675
who've tried to make it a sanctuary frozen.

857
00:53:41,795 --> 00:53:45,483
And he's like, proteins and greens from the

858
00:53:45,539 --> 00:53:49,699
sea. He's, like, very proud of his job as a. As a food

859
00:53:49,787 --> 00:53:53,075
processor. So there's a lot of. There's a lot of stuff going on

860
00:53:53,115 --> 00:53:56,091
here. It's 1976.

861
00:53:56,163 --> 00:53:59,649
The film stock that Anderson chose is

862
00:53:59,737 --> 00:54:03,561
very Glossy. This movie has sort of a

863
00:54:03,593 --> 00:54:07,681
sheen to it. It doesn't quite look like a

864
00:54:07,713 --> 00:54:11,681
video recorded television show, but it's bright and it

865
00:54:11,753 --> 00:54:15,417
pops and stuff like that really comes out like in the

866
00:54:15,441 --> 00:54:19,209
Dome City when they go through the, you know, the sex shop

867
00:54:19,257 --> 00:54:23,613
and everything is in slow motion and there's pink smoke coming

868
00:54:23,669 --> 00:54:27,181
down from the roof and everybody's doing the milkshake

869
00:54:27,373 --> 00:54:31,077
and it's just a slow motion kind of

870
00:54:31,181 --> 00:54:34,829
odd journey through the second level

871
00:54:34,877 --> 00:54:38,821
of Dante's disco hell. I realize

872
00:54:38,853 --> 00:54:41,745
that if you haven't seen the movie, I'm not making a damn bit of sense.

873
00:54:42,165 --> 00:54:45,301
So let me say this. We are dealing with

874
00:54:45,333 --> 00:54:49,845
the topics of ageism and

875
00:54:50,005 --> 00:54:53,765
bodily autonomy. We are dealing with corporate religion

876
00:54:53,925 --> 00:54:56,625
and we are dealing with.

877
00:54:58,165 --> 00:55:01,589
That's what I'm looking for. I think we're dealing with freedom

878
00:55:01,637 --> 00:55:05,605
here. I think it's a movie about finding your own way and

879
00:55:05,645 --> 00:55:09,213
being who you are and doing that

880
00:55:09,269 --> 00:55:12,421
regardless of what anyone else tells you to

881
00:55:12,453 --> 00:55:15,837
do. I don't want to give away the complete ending, but it's.

882
00:55:15,941 --> 00:55:18,825
It's satisfying for sure.

883
00:55:19,845 --> 00:55:23,397
And I have to stop talking, though, because I've lost complete track of where I

884
00:55:23,421 --> 00:55:25,965
was going. So. Yay. Now your turn, Suze.

885
00:55:26,125 --> 00:55:29,629
Okay, now this is. I agree with you.

886
00:55:29,757 --> 00:55:33,061
I said I'm not a huge sci fi fan, but there are certain types

887
00:55:33,093 --> 00:55:36,625
of sci fi that I hold very dearly.

888
00:55:37,045 --> 00:55:40,221
I like cerebral sci fi and this

889
00:55:40,413 --> 00:55:43,945
truly counts. I've always just.

890
00:55:44,725 --> 00:55:47,885
I agree with you. It is absolutely stunning to

891
00:55:47,925 --> 00:55:51,261
watch. There's not a wasted frame

892
00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:55,405
in the entire movie. Everything is

893
00:55:55,525 --> 00:55:58,669
there for a reason. And I

894
00:55:58,717 --> 00:56:02,237
also. What I find interesting is the fact

895
00:56:02,301 --> 00:56:05,981
that, you know, Box man froze all, what was it,

896
00:56:06,013 --> 00:56:09,427
10:56 of the runners. It's like they

897
00:56:09,451 --> 00:56:13,643
almost encouraged them to run. So it's a food source.

898
00:56:13,819 --> 00:56:17,403
It has to be a food source. So it's Soylent Green.

899
00:56:17,539 --> 00:56:21,179
I was just about to say that. It is the Swanson TV dinner version

900
00:56:21,227 --> 00:56:23,415
of Soylent Green. Yeah.

901
00:56:23,955 --> 00:56:27,523
And it's also on top of that, you have to admit, it's a bit of

902
00:56:27,539 --> 00:56:31,139
an adventure film. Once they

903
00:56:31,187 --> 00:56:35,323
get away and they're trying to make their way through this terrain,

904
00:56:35,379 --> 00:56:39,955
they don't know what to do. It's. It's. They're. They're experiencing temperature

905
00:56:40,035 --> 00:56:43,691
shifts that they've never experienced before. The freezing cold.

906
00:56:43,723 --> 00:56:46,611
And at least they were smart enough to find the skins and try to keep

907
00:56:46,643 --> 00:56:49,795
themselves warm with those. But how many people probably

908
00:56:49,875 --> 00:56:53,491
died there? But I mean, the thing about him being a Sandman,

909
00:56:53,563 --> 00:56:57,187
but he was a little bit wiser where combat

910
00:56:57,251 --> 00:57:00,405
was concerned, where probably most of the runners were

911
00:57:00,445 --> 00:57:04,505
not because he was of a more law enforcement

912
00:57:04,965 --> 00:57:08,021
mentality. And this is a very

913
00:57:08,093 --> 00:57:11,517
satisfying movie. And it's like Carousel.

914
00:57:11,621 --> 00:57:15,341
It's, it's one of those things. It's. I absolutely do not

915
00:57:15,373 --> 00:57:18,865
want this explained to me. But they

916
00:57:19,645 --> 00:57:22,545
all of a sudden they just kind of pop.

917
00:57:23,485 --> 00:57:27,551
There's not really any. Are they being

918
00:57:27,583 --> 00:57:31,551
electrocuted? Are they being what? I have no idea

919
00:57:31,583 --> 00:57:34,999
why. That's just one of those little points that my brain is just like what's

920
00:57:35,047 --> 00:57:38,927
actually happening here? So it's

921
00:57:38,951 --> 00:57:42,455
just one of those exploding. Barbed wire match of death.

922
00:57:42,615 --> 00:57:46,335
Yes, it is perfect. The exploding barbed wire match

923
00:57:46,375 --> 00:57:50,815
of death. Love it. And it's.

924
00:57:50,895 --> 00:57:54,219
There's nothing, there's very little that

925
00:57:54,267 --> 00:57:57,215
you can say take against this movie.

926
00:57:59,115 --> 00:58:02,595
So my dog is sitting here flapping our tail and

927
00:58:02,635 --> 00:58:07,135
making me laugh. Once again, perfect casting,

928
00:58:07,475 --> 00:58:11,099
perfect direction. They even got

929
00:58:11,147 --> 00:58:14,099
an Oscar for this for I think, visual effects,

930
00:58:14,227 --> 00:58:17,775
for special achievements.

931
00:58:18,965 --> 00:58:22,253
There's, it's, it does have a lot to

932
00:58:22,269 --> 00:58:26,029
say. I think it's, it's one of the more perfect of the dystopian

933
00:58:26,117 --> 00:58:29,665
futures. And as you've seen that theme of being

934
00:58:30,205 --> 00:58:33,821
basically that put down when you hit a certain

935
00:58:33,893 --> 00:58:37,053
age, I mean almost a little bit in Clonus

936
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:41,105
because they get them into their most peak perfect physical condition

937
00:58:41,765 --> 00:58:44,225
and then they're put into freeze dry baggies.

938
00:58:45,115 --> 00:58:48,491
So it's, it's the obsession with

939
00:58:48,683 --> 00:58:52,067
being young and basically not

940
00:58:52,131 --> 00:58:55,335
spoiling the gene pool until you're 30.

941
00:58:55,635 --> 00:58:58,923
It's. There's some. And you, you, you hit on

942
00:58:59,019 --> 00:59:02,339
just about every topic. And this one truly

943
00:59:02,387 --> 00:59:06,331
does. I, like I said, I think it's about one of the more perfect tales

944
00:59:06,363 --> 00:59:10,179
of a dystopian future. And you're right about

945
00:59:10,227 --> 00:59:14,161
the ending because the ending is. You feel it

946
00:59:14,273 --> 00:59:17,929
in the fields. You really feel it. I was just

947
00:59:17,977 --> 00:59:21,645
pissed off that he left his cats. But the cats will be fine. I'm sure

948
00:59:21,985 --> 00:59:25,577
he'll want to go back to them or hey, you got lots of

949
00:59:25,601 --> 00:59:29,121
young people now. They can start carrying them and maybe. They can start reading

950
00:59:29,153 --> 00:59:32,085
some TS Eliot and name cats on their own.

951
00:59:32,625 --> 00:59:36,361
Absolutely. It's just, there's just so,

952
00:59:36,433 --> 00:59:39,899
so much air. It's. And it's. You're right about the way that it was

953
00:59:39,947 --> 00:59:44,935
filmed. There's a sheen, there is a brightness

954
00:59:45,435 --> 00:59:49,535
that, I mean, I wonder if it's done purposefully to

955
00:59:50,075 --> 00:59:53,867
just to have that, you know, that youthful

956
00:59:53,931 --> 00:59:57,243
glow. It's just a wonderful film.

957
00:59:57,339 --> 01:00:01,067
And I mean, you have got some of the masters at work on This.

958
01:00:01,131 --> 01:00:04,499
I mean, William F. Nolan, George Clayton Johnson,

959
01:00:04,587 --> 01:00:08,139
my God, they wrote for Twilight Zone and

960
01:00:08,227 --> 01:00:12,427
Dark Room. And I think William F. Nolan wrote Burnt Offerings

961
01:00:12,531 --> 01:00:16,695
or he did the screenplay. They both did many, many screenplays

962
01:00:16,995 --> 01:00:19,695
in the sci fi and horror genre.

963
01:00:20,355 --> 01:00:23,531
Goodman co wrote Straw Dogs with Sam Peckinpah.

964
01:00:23,683 --> 01:00:27,299
Oh shit. That's right. So I mean there's

965
01:00:27,347 --> 01:00:31,645
absolutely no way that this combination could ever miss

966
01:00:31,685 --> 01:00:35,917
with this. They hit all of the proper topics.

967
01:00:36,101 --> 01:00:39,645
And like I said, the 70s were a strange time and

968
01:00:39,685 --> 01:00:42,665
for being. For having its bleak moments.

969
01:00:43,005 --> 01:00:47,285
It does end on a. In a very thoughtful

970
01:00:47,365 --> 01:00:51,061
note. That's my thoughts anyway. I don't know.

971
01:00:51,093 --> 01:00:55,025
Never say never about big names coming together and it not missing.

972
01:00:55,525 --> 01:00:59,255
Oh, that's true. I've seen Heaven's Gate. Oh God.

973
01:00:59,755 --> 01:01:03,335
How? Because I came out

974
01:01:04,315 --> 01:01:07,747
because I am that old. So. Yeah, I mean,

975
01:01:07,771 --> 01:01:10,455
just. What I meant was why?

976
01:01:11,355 --> 01:01:15,395
Oh, dude. Because, you know, Michael Cimino

977
01:01:15,435 --> 01:01:19,171
is a fantastic director. Great. I've. I had

978
01:01:19,203 --> 01:01:22,867
more fun watching Roller Boogie than I did watching the roller skating scene in

979
01:01:22,891 --> 01:01:27,611
Heaven's Gate. So. Oh God, Michael Shimono.

980
01:01:27,763 --> 01:01:32,203
He literally had one movie that was good and

981
01:01:32,259 --> 01:01:36,427
everything else was utter trash.

982
01:01:36,491 --> 01:01:39,795
I mean, I wanted to like Black Rain so bad.

983
01:01:39,955 --> 01:01:43,307
I actually tried to watch it about five, six times before.

984
01:01:43,331 --> 01:01:46,827
I'm like, okay, yeah, I give up. This guy sucks.

985
01:01:47,011 --> 01:01:49,707
He got obsessed with Asia for a while, didn't he? Because he had that movie

986
01:01:49,731 --> 01:01:53,465
and he had Year of the Dragon with Mickey Rourke, didn't he? Yeah,

987
01:01:53,505 --> 01:01:57,209
here, the dragons one I was thinking of. I don't think he did

988
01:01:57,377 --> 01:02:00,585
Black Rain. Wasn't that one of the Scott brothers? No, I thought

989
01:02:00,625 --> 01:02:03,605
he did that. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before.

990
01:02:05,305 --> 01:02:08,937
Oh man. My turn. Logan's Run as

991
01:02:08,961 --> 01:02:11,929
a film that I didn't see till I was in my way in adulthood.

992
01:02:12,057 --> 01:02:14,953
And this was after I saw the film Free Enterprise,

993
01:02:15,129 --> 01:02:18,201
which if you know, you know Eric

994
01:02:18,233 --> 01:02:22,271
McCormick and Rafer Weigel, who's actually a sportscaster

995
01:02:22,373 --> 01:02:26,345
for St. Louis. I think now he yes that

996
01:02:26,465 --> 01:02:29,649
obsessed with Star Trek. But the in dream sequences

997
01:02:29,737 --> 01:02:32,817
they have. Because what I'm doing is turn 30. Eric McCormick from. From Will

998
01:02:32,841 --> 01:02:35,913
and Grace and dream sequences of

999
01:02:35,929 --> 01:02:39,953
way to turn 30. And they have a whole Logan's Run fantasy of

1000
01:02:40,089 --> 01:02:43,929
Ray for Weigel chasing him as his friend. And they're running runner

1001
01:02:43,977 --> 01:02:47,243
the whole deal. And you know, that's how I know what renewal

1002
01:02:47,299 --> 01:02:51,011
was. And all that stuff was because of that movie. And then I saw

1003
01:02:51,043 --> 01:02:54,419
this movie and it's like perfect 70s sci

1004
01:02:54,467 --> 01:02:58,131
fi. I love the matte paintings. I Love the

1005
01:02:58,163 --> 01:03:01,771
model work. Like X mentioned where they get in the

1006
01:03:01,803 --> 01:03:05,867
clown car from hell, the bullet train from hell,

1007
01:03:06,011 --> 01:03:10,611
and you know, it's a model reactor, but it looks so fluid

1008
01:03:10,763 --> 01:03:14,809
that you don't care that it's a model. And yeah,

1009
01:03:14,977 --> 01:03:18,753
you said perfectly casted, perfectly written

1010
01:03:18,809 --> 01:03:22,577
really, because you kind of have like this whole again, again an idea of

1011
01:03:22,601 --> 01:03:26,249
that they've been lied to all this time and they live in this perfect

1012
01:03:26,297 --> 01:03:29,649
world where, you know, if you're a sandman, you have anything

1013
01:03:29,777 --> 01:03:34,001
at your disposal. You know, you let a perfect utopia where girls

1014
01:03:34,033 --> 01:03:37,713
will come to you on a video screen and then come for you if

1015
01:03:37,729 --> 01:03:41,027
you want them to and no one

1016
01:03:41,051 --> 01:03:44,923
gets married, you know, so it's perfect. No, no, no strings attached and

1017
01:03:45,019 --> 01:03:48,891
you know, world, you know, rupture, syphilis does not

1018
01:03:48,923 --> 01:03:52,775
exist at all either. They fix these problems. You know,

1019
01:03:53,435 --> 01:03:56,699
no burning sensations amongst the Logans and the Francises

1020
01:03:56,787 --> 01:03:58,535
and the Jeff and Jessica's.

1021
01:03:59,595 --> 01:04:02,963
But yeah, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a good ride.

1022
01:04:03,099 --> 01:04:06,377
You know, I, I would say if I had to pick one thing

1023
01:04:06,401 --> 01:04:09,385
that was wrong with it, it was like, it felt like it was a little

1024
01:04:09,425 --> 01:04:12,805
too long. Like they, like they explored too many action set pieces.

1025
01:04:13,265 --> 01:04:16,857
Maybe cut out the, the sex, the sex world,

1026
01:04:16,921 --> 01:04:20,257
the sex room thing where they're running from Francis.

1027
01:04:20,321 --> 01:04:24,153
Maybe cut that little part out. Maybe. I don't even know. But fun

1028
01:04:24,209 --> 01:04:27,925
stuff. And I mentioned a box

1029
01:04:28,465 --> 01:04:31,685
portrayed in a way by Roscoe Lee Brown,

1030
01:04:32,085 --> 01:04:35,941
one of the most, one of the more celebrated to me, African American

1031
01:04:36,013 --> 01:04:39,557
character actors at the time. What do they do

1032
01:04:39,581 --> 01:04:43,309
to them? I'm Golla Hooper X on you. They take his beautiful black visage and

1033
01:04:43,317 --> 01:04:46,861
they cover him with tinfoil and give him laser guns and

1034
01:04:46,933 --> 01:04:49,949
scream on plankton from the sea again,

1035
01:04:49,997 --> 01:04:52,789
going back to the green again. Made a plankton.

1036
01:04:52,957 --> 01:04:56,293
Plankton runs out soil and green is made out

1037
01:04:56,309 --> 01:05:00,535
of Logan's run people. And yeah,

1038
01:05:00,835 --> 01:05:04,267
that's, that's all fun, but you know,

1039
01:05:04,291 --> 01:05:07,539
when Peter used to have shows up, I. It gets all better for him because,

1040
01:05:07,627 --> 01:05:10,915
you know, anything, any little flaw that I saw in this movie is

1041
01:05:10,955 --> 01:05:14,643
taken away by this bearded fat man who's

1042
01:05:14,779 --> 01:05:18,483
very aware of what, where he is or what he's got going on, but has

1043
01:05:18,579 --> 01:05:22,395
a bevy of cats to talk to. Like, who needs people when I have cats?

1044
01:05:22,555 --> 01:05:26,207
That's human psychology right there. Who needs people when you

1045
01:05:26,231 --> 01:05:29,127
got cats? Because some people suck. See,

1046
01:05:29,151 --> 01:05:33,191
now the cat, you have to earn their trust, you know, and earn their approval.

1047
01:05:33,343 --> 01:05:37,143
He's done this for all these cats with three names. And I

1048
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:40,319
think it's adorable. And I think it's. It's one

1049
01:05:40,327 --> 01:05:43,943
of the high points of the film and an important point of the film because

1050
01:05:43,959 --> 01:05:47,207
it shows that you can grow past 30. And when they bring him back,

1051
01:05:47,231 --> 01:05:50,493
it's a big revelation, everybody. But my thing with Logan's run is

1052
01:05:50,639 --> 01:05:53,649
there's still the powers that be that exist in this world.

1053
01:05:53,817 --> 01:05:57,449
What's going to happen when the revival happens and these people

1054
01:05:57,497 --> 01:06:01,001
possibly get shot dead and they just like, eat the old

1055
01:06:01,033 --> 01:06:04,753
man for dinner or something? I don't. I don't understand. You know,

1056
01:06:04,889 --> 01:06:08,601
this is happy. A very happy ending, but I just don't know

1057
01:06:08,713 --> 01:06:12,553
what. What's your end game, Logan? You know, because you're still. You're still just

1058
01:06:12,609 --> 01:06:15,969
one guy, you know, who's trying to convince everybody that this,

1059
01:06:16,017 --> 01:06:20,613
this is the way it really is. It's like a. It's like I

1060
01:06:20,629 --> 01:06:24,325
need a more bleak Twilight Zone ending to this to maybe feed

1061
01:06:24,365 --> 01:06:28,013
the sci fi soul. But at the same time, I'm happy with

1062
01:06:28,029 --> 01:06:31,773
the ending that we got because Peter Ustenhoff is

1063
01:06:31,789 --> 01:06:35,117
still alive and so are his cats. So, you know, it's a win.

1064
01:06:35,181 --> 01:06:38,445
Win for me. And you almost see full frontal

1065
01:06:38,485 --> 01:06:42,437
Jenny Agar when she's changing her clothes. You see the butt, you see the boobs,

1066
01:06:42,461 --> 01:06:45,933
but you don't see the bjj. You see everything else, though, so. Well, you got

1067
01:06:45,949 --> 01:06:48,665
to watch Walkabout for that. Yes, you do.

1068
01:06:49,645 --> 01:06:53,501
That's a bonus, though, a very sleek,

1069
01:06:53,653 --> 01:06:57,173
not wearing much Jenny Agator. And again,

1070
01:06:57,269 --> 01:07:01,025
great, great paired, great chemistry between the two characters.

1071
01:07:01,325 --> 01:07:04,925
Richard Jordan is insane as Francis is. Just.

1072
01:07:04,965 --> 01:07:08,589
Just like you want him to be, just on the hunt with this obsession

1073
01:07:08,637 --> 01:07:12,189
with, you know, getting the one that got away because, like, the whole

1074
01:07:12,237 --> 01:07:15,941
deal is he's all. There's certain points of the film where he comes

1075
01:07:15,973 --> 01:07:19,085
down on. There's other salmons. Oh, so you let him get away again, did you?

1076
01:07:19,125 --> 01:07:22,293
Blah, blah, blah, blah. They don't say.

1077
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:25,517
Called a. You know, basically saying you fail. You're a

1078
01:07:25,541 --> 01:07:29,493
failure as a sandman if you don't get your man every time. But apparently

1079
01:07:29,669 --> 01:07:33,301
1500 have gotten away and became property

1080
01:07:33,373 --> 01:07:37,173
and food for. For bot to distribute our box to distribute,

1081
01:07:37,229 --> 01:07:40,687
apparently. And worst casualty of the film

1082
01:07:40,751 --> 01:07:43,959
is Farrah Fawcett's hair because when she go to

1083
01:07:43,967 --> 01:07:47,415
the. To the face salon, it's beautiful and feathered out

1084
01:07:47,455 --> 01:07:50,767
like Farrah Fawcett's hair is. But when she escapes in

1085
01:07:50,791 --> 01:07:54,595
with what were they called? The rats again, X the cubs

1086
01:07:55,335 --> 01:07:57,955
escapes in through the tubes. Yeah,

1087
01:07:58,375 --> 01:08:01,807
the cubs down there protecting the entrance

1088
01:08:01,831 --> 01:08:05,263
to Sanctuary. We traveled in tubes as Tenacious D

1089
01:08:05,319 --> 01:08:08,489
says what she did. And when she came out of the tubes,

1090
01:08:08,617 --> 01:08:12,049
you know, her hair was flat and very sad looking. So.

1091
01:08:12,137 --> 01:08:15,265
Yeah, that's a casual Dan Logan's Run is her hair.

1092
01:08:15,345 --> 01:08:19,321
And Carousel looking like a very funny.

1093
01:08:19,513 --> 01:08:23,217
Possibly inspired by what

1094
01:08:23,241 --> 01:08:26,905
was the show Circus with the stars in the 70s.

1095
01:08:27,025 --> 01:08:30,577
You know, those, those kind of outfits and flying in the air

1096
01:08:30,641 --> 01:08:33,809
and exploding like. Like black cat firecrackers and.

1097
01:08:33,857 --> 01:08:37,664
Oh my God, you're implying that John Davidson

1098
01:08:37,744 --> 01:08:41,584
was on Carousel. Maybe he was. He was the inspiration.

1099
01:08:41,704 --> 01:08:44,960
You know, that's. That's a huge thing for me just to try to

1100
01:08:45,032 --> 01:08:48,568
process right now with. Christy McNichol

1101
01:08:48,736 --> 01:08:51,592
and possibly. And Sarah Purcell.

1102
01:08:51,728 --> 01:08:55,976
Yes. Any more names too. That would have been a circus with stars.

1103
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,924
Come on. So you got. They got this. You know, that's.

1104
01:09:00,904 --> 01:09:04,695
Oh, gosh. Yeah, Logan's Run.

1105
01:09:05,435 --> 01:09:08,667
Great sci fi fare from the 70s. You could do a ton

1106
01:09:08,731 --> 01:09:11,915
worse than Logan's Run in all of our

1107
01:09:11,955 --> 01:09:14,975
opinions. You could do Damnation Alley.

1108
01:09:16,035 --> 01:09:19,107
Why are you dissing George Pipard for? Man, I don't know if I like you

1109
01:09:19,131 --> 01:09:22,403
anymore. Like that. Yeah, I'm not dissing George Papard. I'm dissing Jan.

1110
01:09:22,459 --> 01:09:26,699
Michael Vincent trekking through the desert with Dominique Sandoval

1111
01:09:26,747 --> 01:09:29,855
running away from giant cockroaches, whatever the heck it was.

1112
01:09:30,554 --> 01:09:34,774
I have to watch this again. But anywho,

1113
01:09:35,394 --> 01:09:38,650
final thoughts, Suzanne on Logan's Run? No,

1114
01:09:38,682 --> 01:09:41,514
this is a great movie and you're right, it was Ridley Scott. But I was

1115
01:09:41,554 --> 01:09:45,494
thinking of Year of the Dragon, but I was saying Black Rain.

1116
01:09:45,874 --> 01:09:48,882
So yes, there is a bit of a kerfuffle,

1117
01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:52,722
but yeah, Logan's Run for me, like I said, it's one of the best

1118
01:09:52,898 --> 01:09:56,721
dystopian future movies. You can't really

1119
01:09:56,793 --> 01:10:00,321
do better. I'm sure you can if you

1120
01:10:00,473 --> 01:10:03,377
try, but it's up there. It's one of mine.

1121
01:10:03,441 --> 01:10:06,745
I thoroughly enjoy this movie and watch

1122
01:10:06,785 --> 01:10:10,065
it quite a bit. Unmute X

1123
01:10:10,105 --> 01:10:14,169
Score. It is one of my favorite

1124
01:10:14,217 --> 01:10:18,145
science fiction movies ever. And again, we've talked about how the 70s

1125
01:10:18,225 --> 01:10:21,497
were an incredibly bleak decade and you were saying

1126
01:10:21,521 --> 01:10:24,565
you needed to be a little bit more bleak.

1127
01:10:24,645 --> 01:10:28,661
I. I sort of disagree with that. I'm interested how

1128
01:10:28,813 --> 01:10:32,213
when the people who live in the dome city discover the existence

1129
01:10:32,269 --> 01:10:33,465
of the old man,

1130
01:10:35,205 --> 01:10:40,077
that does more than Logan ever could to

1131
01:10:40,221 --> 01:10:43,805
get across the point that they've all been lied to and maybe it's time for

1132
01:10:43,845 --> 01:10:47,625
societal reform. So I, I really like that ending.

1133
01:10:48,445 --> 01:10:51,777
But yeah, I think as far as dealing with heavy

1134
01:10:51,841 --> 01:10:54,769
topics without delving into them too heavily,

1135
01:10:54,937 --> 01:10:58,289
which is cool because you still want something to discuss when the movie is

1136
01:10:58,337 --> 01:11:02,113
over. But yeah, Logan's Run, just fucking top

1137
01:11:02,209 --> 01:11:05,641
notch. Love it. Yeah. Yeah, I like. I like the

1138
01:11:05,673 --> 01:11:08,977
realism of Clonus Horror a little more than I like Logan's Run.

1139
01:11:09,041 --> 01:11:12,393
Because in the world we live in today, who's to say they want

1140
01:11:12,529 --> 01:11:16,241
like organic 3D printers to where you could build hearts or kidneys

1141
01:11:16,273 --> 01:11:20,155
or spleens or anything or whole people for. For that matter.

1142
01:11:20,455 --> 01:11:24,279
But yeah, Logan's Run is. It's fine. It's fine. Fine fantasy.

1143
01:11:24,327 --> 01:11:26,195
I. I have a great time with it.

1144
01:11:27,655 --> 01:11:31,695
Yeah, poor Roscoe Lee Brown just reduced

1145
01:11:31,735 --> 01:11:35,247
to a tinfoil man. But I. I digress in

1146
01:11:35,271 --> 01:11:38,639
that situation. Something like I

1147
01:11:38,647 --> 01:11:42,127
was gonna mention. I forgot what it was now. God damn it. It was

1148
01:11:42,151 --> 01:11:45,275
a good point too. I remember. In an hour. But.

1149
01:11:46,215 --> 01:11:49,543
But no, this is. This is recommended to whoever wants to watch it. You know,

1150
01:11:49,599 --> 01:11:53,223
just go buy that Blu Ray, go buy that. That DVD from the pawn

1151
01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:56,983
shop to take a chance on it. It's just fun.

1152
01:11:57,039 --> 01:12:00,343
Go watch how gleeful the sandman are when they kill people. Go,

1153
01:12:00,399 --> 01:12:03,919
go, go check that out. Because they are really gleeful when they. When they

1154
01:12:03,967 --> 01:12:07,487
murder a runner, you know, and yeah,

1155
01:12:07,511 --> 01:12:11,117
red means stop. I'll stop here with this review

1156
01:12:11,271 --> 01:12:13,445
and we'll come back close out the show.

1157
01:12:16,025 --> 01:12:19,445
As of today, childbearing is here.

1158
01:12:20,345 --> 01:12:24,033
Oliver Reed and Geraldine Chaplin in a new film about a most

1159
01:12:24,089 --> 01:12:27,393
frightening future. Mommy. You're my mommy.

1160
01:12:27,529 --> 01:12:30,569
Doctor. I want to have a baby. That's impossible, Carol.

1161
01:12:30,697 --> 01:12:33,809
I know, but I want my own baby. You know that's impossible,

1162
01:12:33,857 --> 01:12:37,795
Carol. No one is allowed to have a baby for next 22

1163
01:12:37,875 --> 01:12:41,451
years. ZPG is a motion picture that

1164
01:12:41,483 --> 01:12:44,775
shows what can happen. What do you think you're doing?

1165
01:12:45,195 --> 01:12:48,587
One word from me and you and. Her and the baby have had

1166
01:12:48,611 --> 01:12:51,427
it. Baby, baby,

1167
01:12:51,611 --> 01:12:55,451
baby. This could happen

1168
01:12:55,483 --> 01:12:57,615
to you any day.

1169
01:12:58,795 --> 01:12:59,815
Any day.

1170
01:13:02,925 --> 01:13:07,565
Clear. Z. PG rated.

1171
01:13:07,605 --> 01:13:08,345
Pg.

1172
01:13:18,405 --> 01:13:22,185
I'm glad you're back again, guys. With. With you people on this great program.

1173
01:13:22,565 --> 01:13:26,109
And again, thanks. Lots of lessons for your holding down guys

1174
01:13:26,157 --> 01:13:29,911
and, you know, putting out quality kerfuffles for

1175
01:13:29,983 --> 01:13:30,595
all.

1176
01:13:35,655 --> 01:13:39,435
Yes. X. Any updates on Kiss the Goat Man?

1177
01:13:42,615 --> 01:13:46,095
No, I'm not putting pressure on you. No, no, no, no. It's.

1178
01:13:46,135 --> 01:13:48,795
It's fine. Again. Look,

1179
01:13:50,175 --> 01:13:53,625
I. I make no excuses. I'm trying to get it going.

1180
01:13:53,775 --> 01:13:56,625
You have a great excuse. Tell them why. Next. You know.

1181
01:13:57,165 --> 01:13:58,425
Yeah, I.

1182
01:14:00,725 --> 01:14:04,037
October is going to be a busy month and I don't know when we're

1183
01:14:04,061 --> 01:14:05,625
going to have time to do it.

1184
01:14:07,005 --> 01:14:10,397
Grandbaby's coming here in

1185
01:14:10,421 --> 01:14:14,105
about less than two weeks.

1186
01:14:14,525 --> 01:14:17,125
I'm classic. I'm happy. I'm excited.

1187
01:14:17,245 --> 01:14:20,597
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I am too. I just realized that

1188
01:14:20,621 --> 01:14:23,893
it's going to take a lot

1189
01:14:23,909 --> 01:14:27,893
of energy to help our daughter out when that

1190
01:14:27,989 --> 01:14:31,941
baby comes home. Because, you know, we're not

1191
01:14:31,973 --> 01:14:35,501
those people who are just like, ah, new kid, cool, see ya.

1192
01:14:35,613 --> 01:14:37,385
Bye. You know,

1193
01:14:38,845 --> 01:14:41,825
not like that. Yeah, who do you want to have.

1194
01:14:44,405 --> 01:14:46,625
This way between that and.

1195
01:14:49,595 --> 01:14:53,771
You know. Our son's birthday is this month and our anniversary is this month.

1196
01:14:53,883 --> 01:14:56,987
And listen, if you can't,

1197
01:14:57,171 --> 01:15:01,011
I just need to say this because it's really just weighing on

1198
01:15:01,043 --> 01:15:04,379
me heavily. If you can find a way

1199
01:15:04,427 --> 01:15:08,163
to donate to any charity that is helping Western North Carolina,

1200
01:15:08,259 --> 01:15:12,907
please do it 100%. Yes. Hot Springs,

1201
01:15:13,091 --> 01:15:17,039
North Carolina is where Kuti and I have gone for our

1202
01:15:17,087 --> 01:15:20,075
anniversary almost every year that we've been married.

1203
01:15:20,615 --> 01:15:23,675
And it's destroyed.

1204
01:15:24,055 --> 01:15:26,955
There's just hardly anything left.

1205
01:15:27,695 --> 01:15:29,915
And it makes me very sad because,

1206
01:15:30,695 --> 01:15:34,055
you know, we kind of got to know the people that live there and work

1207
01:15:34,095 --> 01:15:38,075
there. We know who to look forward to seeing every time we go.

1208
01:15:38,535 --> 01:15:43,697
And it's just, you know, it's just mud and filth

1209
01:15:43,761 --> 01:15:47,553
and glass and they're like, yeah, if you're coming to help, please bring

1210
01:15:47,609 --> 01:15:51,137
ppe because we don't know what is in this water or

1211
01:15:51,161 --> 01:15:54,729
what's been left behind. So absolutely friggin

1212
01:15:54,777 --> 01:15:59,165
terrible. So if you can help, please help. And that

1213
01:16:00,225 --> 01:16:03,465
is almost all I have. Listen, if you were a reader,

1214
01:16:03,625 --> 01:16:07,465
go over to Biff Bam Pop. It's October. We're doing 31

1215
01:16:07,505 --> 01:16:10,965
Days of Horror. For some reason I've been doing think

1216
01:16:11,045 --> 01:16:14,933
pieces. I don't know why, I don't know why I'm in that mood,

1217
01:16:15,029 --> 01:16:18,501
but I've got stuff being published there this month

1218
01:16:18,573 --> 01:16:22,109
which some of you might enjoy reading,

1219
01:16:22,157 --> 01:16:25,629
where the theme is the devil made them do it. And you know, devil movies

1220
01:16:25,677 --> 01:16:29,581
are my favorite. So, yeah, check that out. If you have

1221
01:16:29,693 --> 01:16:33,197
4 or 5 minutes to read an article while you're, you know,

1222
01:16:33,341 --> 01:16:34,305
on the pot.

1223
01:16:39,575 --> 01:16:43,087
Yeah, that's cool, brother. We're all waiting Beta breath when kids

1224
01:16:43,111 --> 01:16:46,975
to go comes back and you know, I, I'm waiting

1225
01:16:47,015 --> 01:16:50,343
for it and I'm looking forward to listening to it. And you guys get to,

1226
01:16:50,359 --> 01:16:53,615
when you get to it, you know, people get busy, you know, and your,

1227
01:16:53,655 --> 01:16:57,319
your show is not our, our little goofing off ass show here.

1228
01:16:57,407 --> 01:17:00,945
I mean, you guys script and put

1229
01:17:00,985 --> 01:17:04,145
work into your show and takes into your show this,

1230
01:17:04,185 --> 01:17:07,681
this is a one take show, people. So. So I don't put work in like

1231
01:17:07,713 --> 01:17:11,577
X does on his show and hope you think are we

1232
01:17:11,601 --> 01:17:14,673
laying down. It's just X has a lot more to do in his show than

1233
01:17:14,769 --> 01:17:19,125
I ever will. So blood bless, bless him and Cootie for that, you know.

1234
01:17:21,985 --> 01:17:25,817
Yeah. Next episode, you may not hear these guys

1235
01:17:25,841 --> 01:17:29,323
on that episode because I'm doing a special project with John

1236
01:17:29,379 --> 01:17:32,747
Cross to get more content to you people into the folks at

1237
01:17:32,771 --> 01:17:36,603
the, the After Movie Diner. So if you're not subscribing to the After Movie Diner,

1238
01:17:36,739 --> 01:17:40,763
it is a podcast that's been around for 14 years now

1239
01:17:40,939 --> 01:17:44,075
and it's a great thing to,

1240
01:17:44,115 --> 01:17:47,555
to listen to John Cross talk about films and

1241
01:17:47,675 --> 01:17:51,075
do Steven Seagal impressions and Jean Claude Van Damme

1242
01:17:51,115 --> 01:17:54,811
impressions and you know, sing songs about Donald

1243
01:17:54,843 --> 01:17:58,883
Pleasance. Yes, that is a thing with him. He sings songs about Donald Pleasance.

1244
01:17:58,939 --> 01:18:02,467
He has two albums full of songs about Donald Pleasance.

1245
01:18:02,531 --> 01:18:06,227
Miscellaneous plumbing fixtures on anywhere you could find music.

1246
01:18:06,331 --> 01:18:09,699
Go, go, go check them out. But me and him are going to be doing

1247
01:18:09,747 --> 01:18:13,355
a celebrating master thespian Michael

1248
01:18:13,395 --> 01:18:16,835
Perry. Doing one film of his and then

1249
01:18:16,875 --> 01:18:20,693
mixing that with a. We celebrate physical media

1250
01:18:20,789 --> 01:18:24,597
with some obscure title that may or may not have had a Blu ray

1251
01:18:24,741 --> 01:18:27,957
or may or may not have a DVD or DVDs way out of

1252
01:18:27,981 --> 01:18:31,745
print. Just a saving celluloid for you guys to watch later.

1253
01:18:32,245 --> 01:18:36,065
We're doing a film you reviewed once for Biff Ben Pop, actually X

1254
01:18:36,365 --> 01:18:40,133
Seizure. We're doing Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone

1255
01:18:40,189 --> 01:18:43,885
flick. Oh my goodness, that's a wild movie.

1256
01:18:44,045 --> 01:18:47,541
So we're doing that for sure for our second feature. But that's like, that's the

1257
01:18:47,573 --> 01:18:50,995
vibe of the show is that we're doing Michael Parade joined because,

1258
01:18:51,035 --> 01:18:54,811
you know, if you look at his filmography, he's done some wacky shit.

1259
01:18:54,923 --> 01:18:58,819
And the very first one we're doing for that one is called

1260
01:18:58,867 --> 01:19:02,619
Dragon Fight. And this is a film where James Tong

1261
01:19:02,667 --> 01:19:06,203
and Charles Napier run like a running man type thing and

1262
01:19:06,219 --> 01:19:09,643
Michael pray decides he wanted to escape into the Arizona desert

1263
01:19:09,819 --> 01:19:14,335
and it's pursued by Mike, by Robert Zadar who is wearing

1264
01:19:14,925 --> 01:19:18,985
like chain mail and has a battle ax in the desert.

1265
01:19:19,765 --> 01:19:24,061
So it's, it's Michael Pere versus Robert Zidar of the desert whilst

1266
01:19:24,093 --> 01:19:27,665
one of them is wearing battle armor and wielding an ax.

1267
01:19:28,165 --> 01:19:31,765
So if you like that. I feel like I should be in. My bunk right

1268
01:19:31,805 --> 01:19:34,825
now. Well, if you like that,

1269
01:19:35,445 --> 01:19:39,621
go check it out on YouTube. It's, it's there somewhere. I, I think somebody

1270
01:19:39,653 --> 01:19:43,027
uploaded with like the whole thing. And then try to start to upload

1271
01:19:43,091 --> 01:19:46,603
again on the same file. So it says two hours is actually only an

1272
01:19:46,619 --> 01:19:50,035
hour and 23 minutes of film in which James

1273
01:19:50,075 --> 01:19:53,931
Hong and Charles Napier are running game on Michael Pere

1274
01:19:53,963 --> 01:19:56,691
and Robert Zadar as they fight each other in the desert,

1275
01:19:56,803 --> 01:20:00,067
you know, with battle axes. So that's

1276
01:20:00,091 --> 01:20:03,975
the plot to do dragon fight from 1990.

1277
01:20:04,355 --> 01:20:08,243
That's the very first Michael Parade Joe we were doing in Michael Parade Roulette.

1278
01:20:08,299 --> 01:20:12,243
Literally. I'm gonna make a list of 50 films and we're gonna hit the randomizer

1279
01:20:12,299 --> 01:20:15,579
and that is the next film that we will do. Probably something

1280
01:20:15,627 --> 01:20:18,891
you've picked up at the. At the video store or the grocery.

1281
01:20:19,003 --> 01:20:22,815
Grocery store. Video store. Remember those kids? The grocery store video store.

1282
01:20:23,195 --> 01:20:27,227
And just immediately put down and said, I gotta watch this movie. But we're

1283
01:20:27,251 --> 01:20:30,203
gonna watch it for you and talk about it.

1284
01:20:30,259 --> 01:20:33,675
Because, yeah, being John Cross,

1285
01:20:33,715 --> 01:20:37,255
he's a Michael Perry therapy. And it's gonna be fun.

1286
01:20:37,665 --> 01:20:40,689
So it'll be for that.

1287
01:20:40,737 --> 01:20:44,177
For that thing though I keep explained over explaining things

1288
01:20:44,321 --> 01:20:47,953
if you want episode here. Well, one episode first of all will

1289
01:20:47,969 --> 01:20:51,793
be on After Movie Diner feed is why it's important to follow and

1290
01:20:51,849 --> 01:20:55,377
subscribe to After Movie Diner. And the next episode will

1291
01:20:55,401 --> 01:20:59,745
be on this feed. So you have to look. Have subscribe to both feeds

1292
01:20:59,905 --> 01:21:03,677
and get some great content and to

1293
01:21:03,701 --> 01:21:07,661
get all the Michael Pere slash physical media celebration

1294
01:21:07,733 --> 01:21:10,145
goodness out of myself and John Cross.

1295
01:21:12,525 --> 01:21:16,629
Yeah. But next up on this show, you have a couple of options.

1296
01:21:16,797 --> 01:21:19,901
We should do some horror stuff. So I think we might come up with some

1297
01:21:19,933 --> 01:21:22,745
horror stuff to do for four October.

1298
01:21:24,165 --> 01:21:27,685
Something fun, something silly. Probably haven't decided

1299
01:21:27,725 --> 01:21:31,245
what that is yet, but it's going to come in your ears

1300
01:21:31,285 --> 01:21:34,381
sooner rather than later. He's like, you know,

1301
01:21:34,413 --> 01:21:38,305
Rhiannon, you know, ex's daughter doesn't drop

1302
01:21:38,725 --> 01:21:41,933
quadruplets on the world or something. And, you know,

1303
01:21:41,989 --> 01:21:45,065
unexpected triplets or something. You know,

1304
01:21:45,525 --> 01:21:48,517
she's just a little thing, guys. She doesn't need triplets in her life. Okay?

1305
01:21:48,581 --> 01:21:52,305
Just a little thing that would be. Very sad if she had triplets.

1306
01:21:55,965 --> 01:21:59,765
Okay. Oh, that's a lot. Oh, my gosh.

1307
01:22:00,185 --> 01:22:03,937
But that's it for this. This has been your cinebeef podcast where if you've

1308
01:22:03,961 --> 01:22:06,605
got beef, we all renew.

1309
01:22:07,025 --> 01:22:22,205
Have a good one, guys. There is no sanctuary.