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What we're gonna do is instead of running

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these like traditional vocational programs like we've all

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been used to back in our day.

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Entrepreneurship is the heartbeat.

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They're gonna have to understand a business plan,

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they're gonna get taught a business plan,

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so that when they go to work the skills

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are the No. 1 thing

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but your entrepreneurship is the shelter.

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That's the heartbeat.

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Most people talk about the future of work. Jeremy Qualls

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is building it years before people enter the workforce.

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Jeremy is the executive director

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of the Entrepreneurship and Innovation Center,

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he is also responsible

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for the College Career and Technical Education program

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at Williamson County Schools.

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In these roles Jeremy is rethinking

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how students are exposed to entrepreneurship

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technology and real world problem solving.

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We talked about critical thinking, about innovation

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and why it shouldn't wait until college.

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creating and thinking like an entrepreneur

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fundamentally changes confidence and opportunities

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later in life.

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This conversation

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reshapes how you think about talent pipelines.

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So let's dive right in.

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My job is to shout from the tallest mountain

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to all the the folks here in Nashville that

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entrepreneurship and tech innovation doesn't

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begin when you're an adult.

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That we have viable companies

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at the high school level. And it's really interesting.

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The Entrepreneurship and Innovation

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Center as we call it the EIC,

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has been only been around for seven years.

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a maximum of 280 now, with a waitlist of 500 to even get in.

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back to, back to, back

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national pitch champions. And I brought one of my

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national champions with me today he's

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launched a Ed tech company and

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and I think it's it's it's one of the coolest things.

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I used to be in my former life

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an athletic director and athletics is always

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that has the power of a football game on Friday night.

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the educational side of things outside of athletics

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is this Entrepreneurship Center.

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You've got a magnet going down there. I

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remember when you first opened. I remember the vision

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and this constant.

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You're not just shouting from the mountain tops you're also roaming

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making sure that people understand,

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that the water that feeds the valley

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is the youth our future.

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Yes and all I'm wanting to do is hook the wagons.

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It you know a lot of people and I'm

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when you go back in time to your time in high school,

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the know how or the resources. And we give all of that.

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interview process where you have 10 high schools.

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achieving school district in southeast United States

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let's go build a business, are you kidding me.

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starting points and we get out of the way.

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there's nothing but learning opportunities,

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nothing but change. Even when you're relatively

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compared to something else you might not be so

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why compared to anything.

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to a challenge. It's all about learning and consuming,

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knowledge and I think reflecting

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From people like you and other leaders

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in Williamson County and throughout this region.

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Talk to me about how you're engaging

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with the Nashville Technology Council the Greater

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Nashville Technology Council? I since

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all of college and career technical education

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County. So we have 140 teachers across 10 buildings

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34 programs of study. So I immediately

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a techie even though I couldn't create or do anything

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tech wise. But I maybe a futurist I loved watching

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emerging technologies and thinking

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people was like alright what are we building,

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Are we solving any problems are we creating anything?

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mic night at the EIC, and I want those

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tech people to come. And I'm gonna get a 'Shark Tank' of tech

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folks and we're gonna see what happens.

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Anthony was a byproduct of that. But I just

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dialect, we couldn't understand

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now what did you say slow down. 

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okay this guy's new he's not gonna come down and sure

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literally kick each other out and say let's

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specific to the tech industry.

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so I really love to attach everything

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we're doing to the tech aspect.

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the your relationship with failure as an entrepreneur

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learn that lesson or to be taught that lesson.

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kids that lesson? You're you're an exception. Why are

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this not more universal teaching lessons like that?

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where it's manageable from a teaching aspect of

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if they don't know what they're doing.

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ed moves at glacial speed. It just does,

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AOL as they use yesterday, we're still on AOL.

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they didn't realize they shut it down yesterday

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after 30 years you know.

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enough to be in a facility and a system

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to play in that sandbox. Because we have the abilities

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why don't we shift the mindset a little bit

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let them come in and be our PR

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firm for our kids. And do corporate memos,

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sometimes if you haven't been in a situation like the

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EIC. That's what I see.

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got an Anthony, you've seen Anthony have 12,000 users

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worldwide before you graduated high school.

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was not spent in a classroom. That I sent him to every single school district

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driving distance to meet with their superintendent.

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he's gonna learn in a classroom.

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any education system has to get into

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that realm of understanding the power.

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give the kids a little bit of ownership,

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help them fail help them refine and do it again.

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When we open the Innovation

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Five programs that have never been done in

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Aviation, kids can get private pilot license.

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Cyber security, artificial intelligence.

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artificial intelligence is gonna be in tow with that.

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Hospitality and tourism is a brand

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new program where kids are learning everything

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every aspect of the restaurant and hotel industry.

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house and everything in between.

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machine technology program that in energy power

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generation with Thompson Caterpillar.

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What we're gonna do is instead of running

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these like traditional vocational programs

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like we've all been used to back in our day.

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Entrepreneurship is the heartbeat,

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they're gonna have to understand a business

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plan, they're gonna get taught a business plan.

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So that when they go to work

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the skills are the No. 1 thing.

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But your entrepreneurship is the shelter,

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that's the heartbeat. So I can go work for

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Thompson Caterpillar as an 18 year old

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straight out of this program at $100,000 and a truck,

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but five years down the road I'm gonna realize

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I can do this business elsewhere on my own.

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But I don't know how to I don't know how to do it.

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We're changing that narrative.

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and we're gonna make it innovative.

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And it's gonna be all entrepreneur driven.

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Oh can I get an Amen. Can I get an Amen, I feel like the

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the energy I just want to jump on it and ride it.

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And so we've talked a little bit about

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helping and how the community helps.

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And we've talked about the nature of our community and the nature of helping.

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Let's let's get rid of that and just say

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how can we help you? What are three areas

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where we can empower the things that you are doing?

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Time. Talent. Treasure.

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Now today. Today. Today.

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The EIC the current Entrepreneurship Center

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has 150 mentors built in

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which is pretty cool man. To have 150

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business adults like yourself

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come in and pour themselves into our kids.

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One day a month that's all we ask.

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And what happens is when they start

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attaching themselves to a company

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all of a sudden there's Mark Cleveland walking

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in on a Wednesday morning

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at 8:00. What's up man, he's like

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oh I got a meeting with Anthony, I was like great

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and we just going about business.

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That's what we do in the in the entrepreneur

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center it's really I mean I saw three today adults.

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the kids are setting those meetings.

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Because we treat it like real world.

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we are always. We wanna

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continue growing that people roll off roll in whatever.

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I like to cover every sector too so if we need some

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IT experts we have them if we need

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people that are signing NDA's and legal,

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we have that. We have patent attorneys on

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all those things so yes. So I

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remember when the Entrepreneur Center was a shovel

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dig here and

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and when we were with Michael Burcham and everybody

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was putting this thing together.

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and took the mentorship training

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program that he offered. And became a mentor.

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was I I thought you know I'd like

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to imagine that I could be a better mentor

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in my own organization. Talk to me about you,

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that's a lot of mentors

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you're attracting to to create this energy

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cauldron. And how are they

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oriented how are you helping them get engaged?

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most of the conversations

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you're gonna be having is

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And probably there's a greater better chance

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than not that that's a terrible idea.

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we inform them that is what they're wanting to hear.

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They're not wanting you to sugarcoat it. I don't want to

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these kids are so high level. They don't want to spend

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six months on a product, and you come back and say

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"hey man I hate to tell you that's not a good idea."

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I should have said this before but.

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Why didn't you tell me earlier? I've already spent

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6 months on it. Cause they're working that fast.

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So we say be open and honest and

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provide your networks for them. If you can't do it

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there's somebody in your network

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that could possibly help them.

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you know those kids that have been in the program

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for two and three years where they're

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way past the the the the children's stage.

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That's where they get those individual

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hooked in and they really make the magic

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happen. So I've been exploring this topic

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for a while on my podcast

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I wanna recognize something. I've always thought

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America running my own companies

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that I was I would be a mentor I would mentor.

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other people right.

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if I rolled it back I'm receiving

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mentorship from people in a Fortune 500 company

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I'm working with etcetera. And now I think

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that mentorship is a two way street period.

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At all times. I'm learning as much from this young eager,

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it doesn't matter if they're high school or

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maybe just right out of college

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I'm getting as much mentorship upward

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you know or or you know collectively

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in that experience. As I might even hope to offer them.

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I'm excited to hear about your programs.

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What happens is our kids get

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offered internships usually on the spot.

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It's never fails. People are like

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how old are you again? I'm like 17. They're like

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let me check with HR. Do you have a car.  Yeah yeah.

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it's really remarkable. I've heard somebody say too 

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I kind of felt like okay we're missing a boat on this when we first started.

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Before we kind of shifted to where we are the current model now.

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We brought in a cyber security class

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to be the Cyber Geek Squad for our programming,

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for our kids that are building businesses.

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So if you need a website, need this, need this

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these guys are here.

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Let's give them real world relevancy right.

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Mentor

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sitting at the table and the mentor's like what if you had this and this and this and that.

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He said you talking about this and that guy said,

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you just didn't do that? He goes oh yeah.

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He said yeah what are you doing tomorrow at 4 o'clock.

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And then I was like okay I've let's shift

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our thing because it's exactly what you said it becomes a two way street.

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Well I've heard that.