WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:14.480 practical ways. Hey, good morning everyone, it's if, in fact, 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.120 it's morning. I'm Chris, this is Jeff, and we are 5 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.879 the Bible Guys. 6 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:19.440 We are so happy to be here. 7 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:22.440 Do you know that I was actually contemplating putting I 8 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:25.160 have a bottle of water over here. I was contemplating 9 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:32.439 actually gurgling good morning. But but you know, here's the thing. 10 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:36.560 I didn't trust myself because I I was gonna spit it, 11 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:38.399 and so I thought to myself, Oh, I don't think 12 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:39.600 I could ever do that. 13 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.920 So I don't think I could do it by surprise. 14 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:44.240 So who knows. Maybe tomorrow I'll start that way. 15 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:44.479 Maybe. 16 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.079 So there you go. That's the reason to tune in 17 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:48.359 if you're a. 18 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:50.719 New listener with us. Chris has a habit of at 19 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:52.920 least once a week singing good morning to our listeners. 20 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:57.960 Yeah there, yeah, listeners, just wait yesterday, today, No. 21 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:01.600 They do know, they do not. I think like five 22 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:03.960 people and they keep on saying it. 23 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.200 Well, that's about the extent of our listeners except for 24 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:07.879 the new one listening today. 25 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:15.280 Look Billy's listening from Canada. Hi Mom, Hi mom, that's great. 26 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:16.480 All right. 27 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:19.480 Well, hey, Desiree has a section that's it's called stump 28 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.920 the Pastor. We do this every once in a while. Yeah, yeah, 29 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:24.560 and uh. And so here's the way this one reads. 30 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:25.959 And this is from Bella L. 31 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.879 Bella, Hi, Hi, Bella, Yes, Hi Bella. Hell, we're so 32 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.920 glad that you're listening. Yes, and you decided that the 33 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:35.640 thing you wanted to do was stump us. 34 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:37.920 Try to stump us, Yes, try to stump us. All right, 35 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.560 So it says this, it says, wow, Chris, what made 36 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.760 Chris mad this week? Is my favorite bit? Oh look 37 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:43.040 at that. 38 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.519 See I told you, I told you it's everybody's favorite. 39 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.319 It's Bella's favorite bit. She said, Stump the pastor is 40 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.959 my close second. So here's my question. Wow, my husband 41 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:54.799 and I were reading through Genesis and we came up 42 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:56.400 with a question we couldn't find the answer to. So 43 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.959 what are your thoughts on dinosaurs? And are they biblical 44 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.480 or they in the Bible? There's no direct reference to 45 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:05.680 them in creation, says Bella L. So she wants to know, 46 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.599 you know where DoD Bibles fit in the Bob where 47 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:09.719 did dinosaurs fit in the Bible? 48 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.000 Where did dinosaurs fit in the Bible? I don't know that. Well, 49 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:17.479 I don't know. One. Great question, Yeah, great question, really 50 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:18.080 great question. 51 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:18.439 Yep. 52 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.000 Two, what do you think, Chris. 53 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:26.080 Well, I think that they were I believe that they 54 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:30.000 existed with mankind. So I think there's a reference to 55 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.560 job talking about Leviathan, which which is literally translated into 56 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.039 great terrible lizard. Right, there's a I think there's a 57 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:42.240 couple other references to things like that. 58 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:43.919 And I think that. 59 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:50.520 Perhaps when things you know that the theory is there's 60 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.439 one common theory that says that they could have been 61 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.360 on the arc. So, you know, and people say, wait 62 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.439 a minute, dinosaurs were huge, they couldn't go on the arc. 63 00:02:58.479 --> 00:02:59.719 What about baby dinosaurs? 64 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:05.800 Right whatever, So, so so they could have been on 65 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:10.039 the arc. God could have, you know, just allowed them 66 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:13.639 to cease to exist. So, but one thing is clear, 67 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:18.479 they were a part of the world. Now there's another theory. 68 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:22.759 The other theory is is that because God exists out 69 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:26.680 of time and and and God, uh, you know, uh 70 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:31.240 could have could have allowed the earth, you know, to 71 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.400 have gone through and dinosaurs could have been before humanity. 72 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:38.280 Uh, you know, you know there's another theory like that. 73 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.360 Yeah, there's kind of a doctrinal issue with that one 74 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:43.439 with regard to this earth, because it says, wherefore as 75 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:47.120 by one man, sin entered the world talking about earth 76 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.560 and death by sin. So death passed upon all men 77 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.120 for all of sin. So death came because of sin. 78 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.280 So if all those dinosaurs were here and then they 79 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:57.840 died before humanity came. 80 00:03:58.120 --> 00:03:59.879 That's doctrinally where would. 81 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.319 Death have come from? Right, So there was no purpose 82 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.240 behind death prior to man's sin. So the idea that 83 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.400 they existed before and then died and then men came 84 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:11.039 is doesn't really lying. Yeah, so I think you mentioned 85 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:12.560 a couple things you mentioned. 86 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.240 Is important to know because that's the theory, right right, 87 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:17.319 that's what the world believes. 88 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:21.160 Yeah. Yeah, so you mentioned Leviathan and you can look 89 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.720 this up. So one, you're right, it's not in the 90 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:26.680 creation story other than the fact that the Bible just 91 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:28.759 says he created everything on the land and on the 92 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:34.279 sea right right, and in the air right. So, but 93 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:36.560 the Book of Job does seem to reference. Now that 94 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:38.879 Job is the oldest book in the Bible, and Job 95 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.519 was probably written about the time of Abraham, So this 96 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.720 is a couple thousand years after a thousand years, a 97 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:51.199 couple thousand years after Adam. And in job forty one, 98 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.920 it describes Leviathan. It'says, can you pull a Leviathan in 99 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.360 with a fish hook? Or tie down his tongue with 100 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:00.560 a rope? His back has rows of shields tightly together. 101 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:03.519 His snorting throws out flashes of light. His eyes are 102 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:07.240 like the rays of dawn. Right, so it's kind of 103 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:11.000 a seems like a marine, kind of a dinosaur type 104 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:16.040 of animal. In or he also mentions Behemoth in chapter forty. 105 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:18.519 It says, look at Behemoth, which I made along with you, 106 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:20.920 and which feeds on grass like an ox. We know 107 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:24.439 a lot of the dinosaurs. Eight you know, we're herbivorous. 108 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:27.879 And he says, what strength that has in its loins? 109 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.279 What power? And the muscles of its belly? Its tail 110 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.240 sways like a cedar. 111 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:33.879 Right right, like his cedar tree. 112 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:35.839 Yeah, like a cedar tree. The sinews of his thighs 113 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:38.759 are close knit. Its bones are tubes of bronze. Its 114 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:40.399 limbs are like rods of iron. It goes on and 115 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.040 talks about how neither one of these animals can be 116 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:49.800 subdued or tamed by humans. In Isaiah, it mentions the 117 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.240 idea that he shall slay the dragon that's in the sea. 118 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.600 So there seems to be these references of these great 119 00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:00.959 creatures that humans just accept it as like they're not saying, hey, 120 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.480 did you ever hear about this? They're referencing it as 121 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.720 if everybody knows what they're talking about, right. 122 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.839 Right, Otherwise they would have made more of a spectacle 123 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:09.000 of it. 124 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:12.360 Yeah. Yeah, But at some point they became extinct. Some 125 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:14.079 people would point to the flood as being one of 126 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.360 the reasons. There's a lot of If you've never been 127 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.360 to the Creation Museum, that'd be interesting to go down. 128 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:20.160 They have some theories about it. There's lots of different 129 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:23.519 people who have different theories about but there are tons 130 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.959 of animals that are extinct today that existed thousands of 131 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.680 years ago. You know, I was at a guy's and 132 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:31.600 a guy he has a private family museum, and he 133 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:34.800 has a baby wooly mammoth, and they're trying to bring 134 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.680 back the wooly mammoths using the DNA from this frozen 135 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.120 it was frozen in the tundra, and the South Koreans 136 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:43.399 are working with him. He's a billionaire and they're working 137 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.360 with him to bring back wooly mammoths from the DNA 138 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:48.279 that's still in that wily mammoth, Right, isn't that amazing? 139 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:48.639 Yeah? 140 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.079 Right, So that kind of stuff, there's lots of animals 141 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.399 that become extinct. So I don't think that there's a 142 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.759 problem with the fact that we see dinosaur bones. I've 143 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.040 got a bunch of fossils in my office, right, don't 144 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.480 I ye yah, And I love that stuff, And I 145 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:05.600 just don't have a problem with the idea that dinosaurs existed, 146 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:07.199 and I don't have a problem to the idea that 147 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:10.600 they exist at the same times humanity. Every single people 148 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:13.040 group in the world that draws in caves have drawn 149 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:16.800 some kind of version of Europe has it, South America 150 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:20.759 has it, Asia has that, Africa has drawings of long 151 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:24.680 necked animals, large animals that aren't elephants or hippos or 152 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:29.759 rhinoceroses that are much larger, And so it seems like 153 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.639 there's this collective memory among humans that there were these 154 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.920 animals that were bigger. Yeah, and then every continent has 155 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:40.560 dragon legends that are the same, fire breathing, flying, big 156 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.480 reptile kind of animals. Every single continent has those. Right. 157 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:48.000 So when I was in New York just a few 158 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.959 months ago with my family, my brother Jim, who was 159 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:57.240 a pastor down in Texas, doesn't necessarily hold the title 160 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:01.040 pastor now, even though he has a pastoral degree. But anyway, 161 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.199 he works for a creation organization. 162 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:05.040 Did you know that? 163 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:07.920 So anyway, he that's all he does. So as we 164 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.199 were looking through the museum. We were in the museum 165 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:14.360 in New York, and they had a dinosaur section, right, 166 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:18.319 so there's all these different bones and uh, and they 167 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:21.759 had pictures of kind of how they were found, and uh, 168 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:27.759 my brother Jim was explaining the whiplash positions that some 169 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:31.519 of these very large creatures would have been in and 170 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:33.879 how their necks looked like they were broken, right, And 171 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:35.960 he said, so, how do you break the neck that 172 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.200 looks like a cedar tree? And he said, guess what? 173 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:39.840 Guess what a big flood? 174 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.360 Right? Those those bones, some of those bones are as 175 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.960 big as whale bones. Yeah right, and right, I mean 176 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:46.919 they're they're they're bigger than your body. 177 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:47.399 Right. 178 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.159 But that neck got snapped somehow, and it's not just one, 179 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:52.559 it's the whole field of them right where they found 180 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:54.679 them laying right, yeah, yeah, and so and so they 181 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.320 died in cataclysms, right. 182 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.799 And so that's that's the reason why, because you know, 183 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.279 even if there was meteor or lava or you know, 184 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.120 which is sort of the imagery that we have, you know, 185 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.440 for the extinction of Oh there's a comment that came 186 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.799 and then you know, lava, meteors and all these different things, 187 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:15.159 but water, water is the force that could do exactly that. 188 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.440 So anyway, it was interesting because he is so educated 189 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.360 and I can't even begin to repeat what he what 190 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.960 he said because I would look dumb, right, because he 191 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.039 said ten thousand things. 192 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:27.679 And as we were walking through and he was like, 193 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:30.159 but it was basic. 194 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.039 But I just remember thinking, holy cow, and and and 195 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.879 he was right in that when he pointed out like 196 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.799 I remember him pointing out like ten different things. He's like, 197 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:41.320 see this photo, He's like that neck is snapped. And 198 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:42.639 then we go to the next one and he's like, 199 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:45.440 you see this. Uh, they can be preserved this way, 200 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.480 this way, or this way, and one way was underwater. 201 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:51.279 And the only reason why this whole thing would have 202 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.879 been because it was a conglomerate, like almost like a 203 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.159 burial site. Right, you know, like member Lion King when 204 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.039 they said the Elevant's graveyard. 205 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:02.720 Argument, that that's what most fossil discoveries are found in 206 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:06.600 large fossil they call them literally fossil beds. And it 207 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.919 can be a whole valley or the whole side of 208 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.519 a hill and just it's just covered with all these 209 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:12.440 different dinosaurs. 210 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:15.480 Yeah, and and uh and it's because they believe that 211 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.799 they were washed away in the flood and taken down 212 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.799 to a place where they collected right together, and and 213 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.799 all of them, like I said, you know, just having 214 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:28.039 evidence that sort of pointed to a great force. So 215 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.440 it was interesting, It was really interesting to me. So 216 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.840 I am I am not the believer of the before 217 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:38.159 man theory. I am a believer of the flood theory 218 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.840 that the flood was was the thing that wiped them out. 219 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:47.600 So now here come all the angry anti science emails. 220 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:49.440 So we just want to thank you for bringing that 221 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:52.679 up as well for us. But thanks, thank you, Bella. 222 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:53.039 Yeah. 223 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:58.559 But so here here's where we are not scientists. Nope, 224 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:00.720 we just don't have a problem with what we know. 225 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.039 We don't have a problem with saying that they live 226 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.360 during human times and that the Bible does reference them 227 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.639 on multiple occasions. Yep. So with that being said, let 228 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.039 me encourage you. There are other great places to find 229 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:16.879 lots of information about dinosaurs and humans from a biblical perspective. 230 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:21.039 And so I like the Creation Museum. I like what's 231 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.960 what they're doing down there in Kentucky. A lot of 232 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.600 that stuff. They're not the only ones. Your brother has. 233 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.320 What's the name of the organization? Maybe we should put 234 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.600 that in the notes and see if that be helpful. Okay, well, hey, 235 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:38.200 great question, Bella, And well you almost stump this there. 236 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:38.919 That's a tough one. 237 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.000 I want to text him right now and I'll see 238 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:42.799 by the time the end of this podcast happens if 239 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:43.559 he answers. 240 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.799 Oh, great, Well, we're gonna pivot. And we're still in 241 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.440 this time when David is running from Absolom. Is where 242 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.799 we're at now. And this is a psalm of David 243 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:54.879 regarding a time when David was still in the wilderness 244 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.960 of Judah. He's hiding and he's asking God for pres 245 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:02.360 God's presence, for his provision, for his protection. And so 246 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:05.279 here's what it says. David says, Oh God, you are 247 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:09.559 my God, honor earnestly search for you. My soul thirst 248 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.519 for you, My whole body longs for you. In this 249 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:14.519 parched land, in this weary land where there is no water, 250 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.440 I have seen you in your sanctuary and gazed upon 251 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.840 your power and glory. Your unfailing love is better than 252 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.000 life itself. How I praise you. I will praise you 253 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.320 as long as I live, lifting up my hands to 254 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.639 you in prayer. You satisfy me more than the richest feast. 255 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:32.600 I will praise you with songs of joy. I lie 256 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:35.080 awake thinking of you, meditating on you through the night, 257 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:37.840 because you are my helper. I sing for joy in 258 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.360 the shadow of your wings. I cling to you. Your 259 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:43.879 strong right hand holds me securely. But those plotting destroy 260 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.120 me will come to ruin. They will go down into 261 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.360 the depths of the earth. They will die by the 262 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.440 sword and become the food of jackals. But the king 263 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.320 will rejoice in God, All who trust in him will 264 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:59.759 praise him, while liars will be silence. It's awesome out there. 265 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:00.919 So there you go. 266 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.159 My brother wrote me back right away. Oh wow, he 267 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:07.159 works for the Institute for Creation Research. 268 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.759 Oh I've heard of them. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 269 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:12.960 Institute for Creation Research is interesting. Now. You know, all 270 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.480 science is the study of things, it's not the law 271 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.759 of things, right, right, So all these different science organizations, 272 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:23.039 both on the secular side and the Christian side, they're 273 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.759 they're they're studying a thing, they're research a thing, they're 274 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:29.799 looking for plausible answers. And so I think that the 275 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:34.120 Institute for Creation Research, and then also ken Ham's organization 276 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.559 up there and at the Creation Museum and all that 277 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.039 kind of stuff, is it. Well, hey, great, check those out. 278 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.679 There's a bunch more, but check those out. So back 279 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.679 here with David running from his son Absolom and saying, God, 280 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:51.080 I don't really have any hope except for you. But 281 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.879 I'm completely content in trusting that you're going to take 282 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:54.200 care of me. 283 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.320 Yeah, that's great. And by the way, this is beautiful imagery, 284 00:13:58.360 --> 00:13:58.639 isn't it. 285 00:13:58.799 --> 00:13:59.799 Yeah, you know. 286 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:05.120 The latter half of this when he says, because you 287 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:08.039 are my helper, I can sing for joy and the shadow. 288 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.639 Of your wings, well, the shadow of your wings is 289 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:11.840 uh uh. 290 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.600 It's it's like a mother hen who protects, right, or 291 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.399 or a you know, I guess a father could do 292 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:19.360 the same thing, right. 293 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:22.840 But any animal always the it's always. 294 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:23.840 It's always, it's always the hen. 295 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:24.519 Yeah. 296 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:27.559 So but it's a uh, it's a it's a protection thing. Right. 297 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:31.480 So you know in the previous chapter that we just read, uh, 298 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:33.159 he says, God, you are my shield. 299 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:34.120 So there's this. 300 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.919 You know, there's like a word picture that comes with 301 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:41.240 every metaphor, right. So you know, for instance, think about 302 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:44.360 this when Jesus says, uh, I'm the shepherd and you 303 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:47.039 are the sheep, You're like, oh, well, you know, every 304 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:49.759 shepherd knows that that has a thousand applications. 305 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:51.320 When he says I'm. 306 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.039 The vine and you are the branch, and then and 307 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.759 then you bear fruit if you're connected, you're like, wow, 308 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.159 every vennor knows, every vineyard knows, like, oh yeah, and 309 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.759 when I get disconnected, then there's the pruning, and then 310 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.279 there's the harvest, and then there's the there's the water 311 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:08.879 source and holy cow, right it be like a tree 312 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:10.120 plant about the rivers of water. 313 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.559 Oh yeah, that's a great word picture. So here it 314 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.440 is again. And he says, I sing for joy and 315 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:17.480 the shadow of your wings. I cling to you. You 316 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:20.320 hold strong with your right hand, you hold me securely. 317 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:23.559 I think to myself, that is a beautiful word, picture 318 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.600 and everything that comes with it. Right when you observe nature, 319 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.960 you could probably watch an entire documentary about a mother 320 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:35.080 protecting her chicks and understand just how awesome just that 321 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:35.759 one sentences. 322 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.320 I was going to comment on that same verse. So 323 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.720 that's great that that's what got yeah. Yeah, So growing up, 324 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:45.320 we had one hundred chickens, well you know, growing up 325 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.759 as a kid, and so I have a lot of 326 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:50.759 familiarity with chickens for a while when we lived we 327 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:52.840 live in the suburbs, but we had four chickens in 328 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:55.039 our backyard for quite a while and that was that 329 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.519 was pretty great too. They lay hens, they were hands. 330 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.399 They lay eggs every four days. They lay four eggs 331 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.720 a day. I'm sorry, that's what we will get. So anyways, 332 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.679 just recently, I was in Tanzania and we were doing 333 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.679 this safari drive one afternoon. It wasn't a safari trip, 334 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.000 it was a mission trip working with Christian leaders, but 335 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.720 we had this afternoon, so we drive out to look 336 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:19.879 at the animals and we stopped at a spot by 337 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.679 the way. About fifteen minutes after we'd seen lions. We 338 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.000 stopped and we get out of the truck and there 339 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.159 was a little picnic area and some restrooms and stuff, 340 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:31.000 and so there's no fences or anything, you know, and 341 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.080 you're kind of thinking in the make your mind, we 342 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.080 weren't driving very fast to get here. I bet we're 343 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.480 like a half a mile from where those lions were, and. 344 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:40.159 That tall grass is not very far away, exactly. 345 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:43.960 But when we so I walk around, there's there's a great, big, 346 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.519 giant banyan tree, and I and I walk around that, 347 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:50.480 and there's some guinea fowl. You ever see guinea fowl, 348 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.879 They look like a chicken kind of right. They're a 349 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:55.759 little bit bigger, but they looked like a chicken. And 350 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:58.320 she had a whole bunch of hens and she made 351 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:01.559 a clucking kind of a noise, and all the baby chicks, 352 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.000 peepepeepepeep peep, come in and she kind of fluffed out 353 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:08.000 her wings, and it was like eight chicks just disappeared, right, 354 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:11.039 And then she was kind of dancing around. Everywhere I 355 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:13.759 would walk, she would move to face me, and you 356 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.559 can hear peepepeepee peep, but you can't see any of them. 357 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.160 They're all hidden under her wings like that, right, And 358 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:21.359 I was thinking that this is exactly what he's talking 359 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:24.200 about is those little chicks had no protection. Now, of 360 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:27.240 course she wasn't gonna do much either, but she was there, 361 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:29.559 ready to risk her life to protect those baby chicks. 362 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:31.519 And she was squaring off with me. And I'm two 363 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:33.640 hundred none of your business pounds and she probably weighs 364 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:37.160 like five pounds, right, But she's there, she's protecting these chicks. 365 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.240 And those chicks knew instinctively when danger was here, I 366 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:43.079 need to run underneath her wings. And so that was 367 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:46.119 the immediate images I thought. And then it talks about 368 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:49.759 how he holds me with it securely with his strong 369 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.319 right hand, and I can remember my daughter, she's the 370 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:58.440 youngest of my three and my two boys. I'm like, 371 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:02.039 suck it up, buttercup, right, you're gonna be tough, be tough. 372 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:03.680 I might have been a little too tough on them, 373 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.680 but Jenna was exactly the opposite way. Jenna wrapped me 374 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:08.960 around her finger the minute I saw her, and from 375 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:10.799 that point on it was like, Okay, I'm gonna do 376 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:13.680 whatever protect her. So but she always had this desire. 377 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:15.759 She wanted to be tough. The boys were tough. She 378 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:17.759 wanted to go do dangerous things and so I can 379 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:20.759 remember we were at a carnival and there were these rides, 380 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:22.799 and the ride might have been just a little bit 381 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.359 too big for her, but the boys went and she 382 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.759 really wanted to go, and Daddy come with me. So 383 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.640 I get with her, and then, you know, it was 384 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.680 a pretty rambunctious ride, one of those I don't know, 385 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.279 spinner things or whatever, and she got really scared. She 386 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.359 started crying. So I put my arm around her and 387 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:40.039 pulled her in real tight, and she grabbed a hold 388 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:41.640 of my arm like this, and by the end of 389 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.279 the ride she was laughing. So it was scary when 390 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:46.400 she felt like she was by herself trying. She was 391 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.079 just trying to stay in the ride. You know what 392 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:50.039 I mean, You're that little You're just trying to stay 393 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:51.720 in the ride. The ride just bouncing all around, she's 394 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:53.480 crashing all around. But when I grabbed her and pulled 395 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.440 her in tight, she grabs onto my arm like that, 396 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.559 and then at that point she's not bouncing around. She 397 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.799 has a certain amount of security. And then it went 398 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.559 from being terrifying to fun. And so we get off 399 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.440 the off the the ride and he have you ever 400 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.319 seen a kid that's laughing and crying at the same time. Yes, right, 401 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:13.079