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Well, hey y'all, happy Monday
or whatever day this finds you.

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You know, it's hard not to talk about
Beyonce announcing her newest body

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of work at or during the Super Bowl.

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Can y'all sense a little
bit of a difference?

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Okay, we're up leveling
over here at Galt's Radio.

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There's a little higher resolution
now, which actually is horrifying to

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me, um, this is literally just like
water on my shirt because my hair was

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wet and it looks like I just like ate
potato chips and like dropped them

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in a necklace for me like this is I
don't think y'all need to see me in 4k.

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I don't know why this is
The future but it's here.

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I'm also testing out.

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I will be testing out some new
software We're a small business

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y'all believe it or not now.

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He's got a checking account.

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He's got a credit card He's licensed.

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He's incorporated He's set up to make
content and no money Uh, but it's cool,

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it's cool actually owning something
and uh, it's fun to Play around with

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this stuff a few years ago when I was
doing a pandemic version of this I was

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focusing on my cycling classes and I was
teaching from home And I remember all

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that energy and it's kind of coming back
to me where I bought the soundboard.

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I bought mixers microphones
was learning how to do things

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live with Full fidelity audio.

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It was tricky, but it was so fun.

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Um, and it held me through, I don't
know, until really I got the, the job

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to teach in person again, and in a way
I'm like feeling that again, but also,

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like, creating content is this hilarious,
like, I don't actually ever even want

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to use those words again, nor do I ever
want to hear the word influencer again.

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Um, but, the world of it is very We
think we know it so much as an observer.

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And then when you step into like a pocket
of your own, trying to create of your

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own, you realize like, Oh, there, I mean,
just like anything, there's a lot to it.

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And then I've started to see the
lines in the sand of like, okay,

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yeah, people really latch onto super
current things, super high def things.

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They want to see like my
boogers coming out of my nose.

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Um, edited things, beautiful things.

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There's all these softwares to
like help creatives and creators.

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And then also reactions.

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And I realized when Beyonce this
weekend during the Super Bowl

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announced her next body of work, and
I reacted through my stories, I was

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learning my own thoughts as I was
processing them, which to me signaled.

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My instinct, which is, I believe,
correct, which is like, I'm not a reactor.

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I think once in a while it's fun, and it's
cool to catalog like your initial impulse

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when you see something go live, but it's
not where my most thoughtful analysis

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comes out, nor do I think anyone's.

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But I get it, if that's
what people want to watch.

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So this is like, this
is my pace here, okay?

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Something happened like,
what, one or two days ago?

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Now we're talking about it, now I'm
thinking about it, I've synthesized, I've

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also just gotten a little bit of time with
like, hearing a few other perspectives

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of it that I wouldn't have thought of,
and it helps influence my own, so yeah, I

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guess it's like, not unadulterated in that
it's like, sat with me and other people

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a little bit longer, but it also I think
is a stronger, more cohesive perspective.

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Today I did want to, I wanted to like
not necessarily react, but talk about

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a timely thing which I found myself
having some strong opinions on and I

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love lightning rod topics that stir
strong opinions because I just think

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it's interesting that they cause strong
opinions and like you know at the end

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of the day whoever has created the topic
in this case it's Beyonce announcing

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what seems to be a new album They win,
because we're here talking about it, and

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like, this is like, this is how media
works, but we're in this like, rarefied

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time when there's not that many people
in a position like hers in the world.

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There's, right now, there's like two.

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It's her and Taylor, that when they do
things like this, We've never really

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experienced things at least like we
Millennials have not had like that

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Michael Jackson effect until Beyonce
and now Taylor, I think is having it too

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of Using something live in the moment
Something that she knows everyone's

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gonna be watching the Super Bowl This
is the thing with the most eyes on it

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obviously the most ad spend and there's
so much money spent and made around

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this time to then like Use it to then
work her platform Um, it's we don't

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have many people that like would create
this sort of like concentric set of like

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seismic Rings, um the way that she does
so beyonce announced What seems to be

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Act 2 of her, what I believe is rumored
to be a three part, uh, record project.

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Act 1 being Renaissance, Act 2
being yet to be announced name,

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what seems to be a country album.

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Now, my knee I had knee jerk
reactions, I'll talk about those.

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I've had more thoughtful reactions
after I've synthesized some of this.

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But, one thing I realized is like,
I didn't react to the announcement

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as negatively as I did to Taylor.

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doing a similar thing, but at
the Grammy's announcing her next

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album, which really rubbed me the
wrong way when I watched that live.

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So I was actually watching that broadcast.

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Why did that rub me the wrong way?

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You know, I'm obviously coming, coming
in with my own preconceived, like,

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or not preconceived, but my own built
perceptions and like, tastes for these

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artists and my levels of like caring
what they do and like also caring

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about how they carry themselves.

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Taylor's announcement seemed
to take the space of having a

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minute to express gratitude and
instead she used it to market.

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Now Beyonce's was in what could only
be seen as like a capitalist day.

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Like the Superbowl is like a sports day
but it's like when everyone's almost just.

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It's all in on capitalism.

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It's all ads.

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It's all money.

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Like, it in a way didn't seem to co
opt anything that was problematic.

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It just kind of like was yet another
piece of marketing in a day that's like

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really become dedicated to marketing.

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Like, I didn't watch this game.

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I don't usually.

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But like, even just the shots
I'm sure of the stadium,

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there's like ads all around it.

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Like the whole thing is
just like announcing.

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Or trying to direct money towards
people, companies, and things.

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So I guess one reason I wasn't as
upset about Beyoncé using the moment

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for herself was because it's like,
well, everyone's trying to do that.

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Everyone's jockeying for attention
in those like two or three hours.

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Whereas Taylor used an opportunity to
like, instead of expressing gratitude,

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like push forward and like try to
redirect the gratitude into sales,

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which felt kind of problematic.

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So I guess, yeah, that kind of like,
to me explains why this felt different.

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I will say though, I mean, Usher
couldn't even get like five minutes.

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Like, I don't know what
the actual timing was.

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Did anyone actually watch it live and
can tell me how soon after Usher's

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performance she announced this shit?

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Like, that's a little rough.

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And she has done that before.

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Um, in the 2017 to 2020 span when
she was taking multiple years for

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some of her projects, one of them
being Beychella, which she performed

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one year and then announced, or then
released the recordings of the next.

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This exact same thing happened.

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It was the year after Beychella,
which I believe was 2019, Ariana

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Grande was headlining in the slot
that Beyonce had had the year before.

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And straight up during that weekend,
Beyonce announces, Hey, remember

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last year though, my set, my recorded
version of that is on Netflix right now.

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So people are like, literally
physically at Coachella, like

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streaming last year's Coachella.

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So she's kind of infamous for like
redirecting attention from someone

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else or something else onto her.

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But she's at least in a way picking
times or moments where it's like,

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The form of attention isn't changing.

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She's not like pulling us out
of paying attention to a really,

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really, really important earth
shattering thing onto her in a way.

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It's like capitalism thing one
or performance thing one just

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being redirected onto her.

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So it's not great.

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It's not the best look.

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And Usher absolutely crushed it and maybe
is not as high in the, like, headlines

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of the news cycle because of this.

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So that's a bit of a bummer.

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Now, Beyonce announcing that she's
going to be working in and through,

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uh, and inside of country music,
ostensibly for, for her next chapter,

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did actually, my knee jerk reaction
was kind of negative to that.

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And it is not from a level of gatekeeping
that genre or not being excited of

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hearing Beyoncé's approach to that
genre, it's from a couple things.

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The first thing is, by now, it's
pretty known and very obvious that

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Beyoncé moves through eras in what can
sometimes be seen as an incomplete way.

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We can, we can see this in the history of
projects where she's really sunk into one

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particular vibe or genre or setting or
aesthetic and then kind of not discarded

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it but maybe not fully fleshed it out.

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She's a reference artist.

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She is a collage artist and this is
not said with a shade but at this point

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we have to acknowledge that No Beyoncé
song is written by just her, ever.

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There's legions of songwriters.

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We even talked about this here last time.

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There's songwriting camps to
get these records made for her.

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The same is true for the visuals.

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I mean, at the highest level, the
same is true for the storyboarding

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of the eras themselves.

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I felt the needle switch,
in a way, from Beyoncé.

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thinking ahead and doing something that
people weren't doing, hearing, seeing,

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or thinking about, to Beyoncé lagging a
little bit with the Renaissance project.

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It did just feel like, to me, when I
heard Break My Soul be a house record in

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2021 or 2022, I was like, huh, really?

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Like, a lot of people are doing this.

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Now, We'll get to like how and why
Beyonce does it and that's different.

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She's coming to it I believe ostensibly
with different principles different

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intentions But it did it was the
first time literally the first time in

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her long career that I felt like, uh
The waves already happening like the

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wave is just you're adding to it now
interesting Like you're not pushing it

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or redirecting us to a different wave.

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You're actually just like Getting on your
surfboard with the other people on their

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surfboard riding, riding the house wave.

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So it kind of felt like she was behind,
and in a way the country thing is like

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the second time that I've been like, Uh,
other people have done this, and it's kind

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of funny as I was posting in my stories
to like, it's Almost a thing that if you

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arrive at a certain level of preeminence
as a main pop girly or just like a big

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pop star that is a huge broad audience
that gets to release like, let's say like

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five, six plus records in their lifetime.

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It seems almost inevitable that one
of them is going to be a country one.

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And I was like listing out to all
of the, not to gender it, but it

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seems like all the women like put
the 10 gallon hat on at some point.

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And this one for some reason felt
like we literally just did this.

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Five, six years ago was like a big
groundswell of this which doesn't

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invalidate her doing it now But it does
feel like at least on the trend cycle.

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This is lagging.

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I thought a lot about like
Madonna did this in 2000.

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It was the first record post Ray of Light.

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I think Ray of Light was
the last one in the 90s.

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And then music, I think,
was in 2000 or 2001.

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Maybe 2002, but I think earlier than that.

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And that was when some of the
music that sticks to me from her

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career the most came from that.

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But very much her country moment.

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And then the five, six years ago
that I'm talking about was like Kylie

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Minogue, who is like, if anything,
Very much a trend following like

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they call them chameleon artists.

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Miley Cyrus gets this
designation sometimes too and

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it's meant as a compliment.

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I actually don't always see it
that way because I'm like they

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really just trend chase in a way.

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They do it well, I think Kylie and
Miley, that's funny they rhyme.

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Do it well, but like, so Kylie
released Golden in I think 2015 ish.

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Um, And like, really explored
just inside out the country genre.

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Always like, very pop.

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Kylie Minogue is like
a pop, pop, pop girly.

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And also, by the way, completely unabashed
about trends chasing or trend following.

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She like, nobody does it better
than her and she like, owns it.

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Um, But that happened, Lady Gaga's
Joanne, when she put the like pink

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hat on and was like the country singer
songwriter with a little bit of folk.

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I mean, she had a straight up song
called John Wayne on that record.

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That was 2000, I think 16.

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Um, and then also right now it
seems to be happening again.

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Like Lana Del Rey just days ago announced
like, or like officially announced or

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corroborated the rumors that her next
record called Lasso is a country record.

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And like, it just seems like the, for
some reason, what used to be like maybe a.

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10 year cycle is now like five, although
I guess 2015 is almost 10 years ago.

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So maybe my brain is not on the right
setting, which is wild to me, but

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it just feels like this little like
genre fetish cycle is spinning faster.

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So all that is just to say that it
feels yet again to me that maybe in

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the course of this three act project,
Beyonce is like behind the aesthetic

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eight ball in such a way that like.

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is really reading as like a I don't
mean this in a derogatory way, but

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like an aging millennial star, like
it doesn't have necessarily their

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thumb on the pulse of like at least
what the most cutting edge thing is

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anymore, the way that she once did.

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But let's like step back and talk
also about how, how and when she

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started doing this like eras style.

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I hate calling it eras because it seems
like Taylor Swift has trademarked that

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at this point, but how and when Beyonce
started doing these genre deep dives.

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It took several albums to see this
start to play out in her career.

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So Beyonce had three or four albums
with Destiny's Child, I think three,

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then her first solo album, and then the
fourth, which was Destiny Fulfilled.

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All of those albums and her first
solo album were very R& B, rhythm and

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blues, like very, very, very R& B.

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Then she started, um, in her first
two solo albums, so Dangerously in

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Love and B Day, exploring, I think,
a micro genre of, like, pop R& B

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that was at the time called go go.

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Omery's One Thing was, like,
a very popular, kind of,

00:14:27.570 --> 00:14:29.410
go go style R& B pop song.

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Crazy in Love is almost interchangeable,
just as a produced track with, with

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One Thing, and that kind of style.

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She's also been, like, Criticized
of like stealing on Marie's career.

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So that's another thing but in a way
she was not straying too far from

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like R& B as the center Um, I Am Sasha
Fierce album three was very much a pop

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album started to push into some of the
electronic stuff That was really popular.

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That was like when Gaga was
had become really big and

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like euro edm was on the radio

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And then album four for B called Four.

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So I mean this is spanning 10 years of her
own solo career back in a way almost more

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ardently in the center of the R& B genre
and was more of a throwback R& B record.

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So it was like 80s kind of like 80s
synth vibes with some like new electronic

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sounds like she also I mean one of her
singles was a major laser produced track

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so like it had edges of like modernity
but it was still very very very R& B.

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It really took us, or took her,
until Self Titled, which was in

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2013, to show us that she could take
really abrupt pivots and left turns.

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And when she did that for the
first time, it seemed like the

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first left turn was into hip hop.

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It was kind of always a part of her legacy
because, especially in her relationship

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with Jay Z, and she had featured as a
singer on some hip hop songs previously,

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she's never really rapped until she
released in that If y'all remember,

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like, she released what would become
Flawless onto SoundCloud first, and it

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was like, the beginning of it really
fleshed out, and it was super hard.

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It was a, it was like electronic trap,
and she's like, not really singing.

00:16:09.069 --> 00:16:13.389
She's singing a little bit, but it's
more like, chewed up parts of her vocal.

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Like, I'm in a H town,
coming, coming down.

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Like, it was more It was just
different and that hip hop kind

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of aesthetic was really played
out on self titled some tracks.

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She didn't sing at all Some of what
would become my favorite tracks were

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the ones where she was like really
far away from what she had done but

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it took me personally a really long
time to get used to her like not being

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like a singer's singer in that moment
because she had just just years ago

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released like love on top and was like
Belting for the gods and I was like,

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oh my god, keep doing this, but she
was like nah Um, which was cool, right?

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Like, she got your appetite right where
she needed it and then, like, left turned.

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To me, that's the cutting edge
thing that I'm not personally

00:16:53.755 --> 00:16:55.425
feeling from her anymore.

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Coming off of that, then we had,
to me, like, the prototype of her

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being, like, Hey, that genre thing,
like, that exposition of a genre, I

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want to do, like, a lot of that now.

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And Lemonade was really that.

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So, Lemonade was an album where she
explored within not the longest album.

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I think it was an 11 or 12 song album,
like Maybe five or six different genres.

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It was really a mood and story driven
record Aesthetically, obviously i'm sure

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we all remember if you're following me
you remember and this was a record that

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you probably loved it was very much like
kind of like southern gothic it was a

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lot of really ornate fashions used as
the backdrop of which the story that

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she was painting of being a black woman
with roots from the south dealing with

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like philandering men and the greater
story of not having power or agency in

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the way that a modern woman or black
person or black woman could or should.

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So it was this really ranging project,
really soulful, and the genres that she

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explored were very wide ranging to match.

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So we had some singer songwriter.

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We had, um, Pray You Catch Me was
very much a singer songwriter song.

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We had some like alternative pop.

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I mean, the single Hold Up is like a
really weird single built out of samples.

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She really started using
more samples in this project.

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We had Rock, Don't Hurt Yourself,
which was one of my favorite songs

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with Jack White, I thought was
like an extraordinary and strange

00:18:26.050 --> 00:18:27.950
and unexpected use of her voice.

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We had Gospel.

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If y'all remember the ballad Sandcastles.

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Very gospel driven just piano and voice
on that song maybe with some background

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voices, but very in the gospel canon And
then we also had um Freedom which was like

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a gospel style like R& B chant anthem.

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We definitely had Multiple
sub genres of hip hop.

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I mean sorry was a trap song Formation
which I think would be correctly

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characterized as a trap song, right?

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I think who did was that
a Mike Will Made It song?

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I think so and then That brings us
to, not necessarily in sequence,

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but her first real country song.

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The one that set the stage,
potentially, for what's to

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come, which was Daddy Lessons.

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Now y'all, when I watched Lemonade
Premiere Live, the first time I was

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like, on my feet, like sweating with
excitement and like clapping and moving

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my body to the music and the story
simultaneously was Daddy Lessons.

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She was fully captured in
what she was wanting to say.

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Her as the consummate performer,
um, and story weaver of that time.

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Guitar driven, kind of like, dark, honky
tonk country, slight folk, like southern,

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western, southwestern, country genre.

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It was It was the perfect container.

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And I remember saying in the moment,
I want an entire album of this.

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So why is it that now, uh, eight
years later, I'm not sure that I do.

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I think one reason or one, one
thing that informs my less than

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fully embodied excitement about her
doing a country album now, I think

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kind of trailed from what she did.

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So first off, we should say all of those
different genre singles on Lemonade were

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submitted to the Grammys for consideration
in their respective genre categories.

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I think there was some record that
was broken by her submitting to what

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I believe was five different genres
from one album in the same year.

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Now she famously was denied consideration
for Daddy Lessons, the country song.

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Which was wild because it was the most
of its genre that was being submitted,

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you know Like it was the it was a
perfect pairing daddy lessons was

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unequivocally a country song and it was
an incredible one and so like silent

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but visual protest of that decision.

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She performed it live with the Dixie
Chicks, also a group who were blacklisted

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and blackballed by the Grammys for
different reasons than, uh, having

00:21:03.695 --> 00:21:06.359
come out against George Bush post 9 11.

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They were written off by the
Country Music Establishment.

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Now, Beyonce hadn't even like really
dipped her toe in, but she was kind of

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being denied entrance at the first gate.

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So she said, okay, my sisters
come on stage with me.

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They performed, not at the Grammys,
I believe, at the CMAs, the Country

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Music Awards, and an incredible
arrangement with like banjo.

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They had that like famous Barry Sax
player who like dances when he plays.

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He has like the Wild blonde hair and
it was an extraordinary performance

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in a rehearsal audio from a rehearsal
of them doing that song is on

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Spotify And it's extraordinary.

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It's almost more dialed than the
Performance that went live so even before

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she got started in country She was being
denied and I think that is the point

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that she now wants to Prove and flesh
out and say this is a genre that has been

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gatekept by the wrong people for too long.

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This is a black genre and it is now being
owned, operated, and kept with offense by

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white artists and the white establishment.

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So that is a story in and of itself
beyond enough for an incredible record

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to be made and a story to be told.

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But let's also look at
what came after Lemonade.

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She took that genre focused
approach into her next projects.

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Now it took a long time between
Lemonade and Renaissance, it was

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six years, but she wasn't not She
created three kind of big bodies of

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work, one of them being homecoming.

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There wasn't any new music for
homecoming after lemonade, maybe like

00:22:42.210 --> 00:22:45.239
a track or two or a feature that she
had done on some other songs that

00:22:45.239 --> 00:22:47.250
worked their way in, but it was a re.

00:22:47.320 --> 00:22:55.400
Casting a resetting of her own catalog
music that we all knew at that point to

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the kind of visual aesthetic of an HBCU.

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Um, kind of painting the picture
of like their homecoming with a

00:23:03.510 --> 00:23:05.309
massive presence of a marching band.

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She had, I think, 200 people on
stage, performers, dancers, um,

00:23:10.170 --> 00:23:12.340
other singers and like band members.

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I mean, just the sound
engineering of that is so complex.

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That in and of itself is a feat, but I
think it was so cool to watch someone

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not make any new music But just say i'm
gonna perform my first six albums and

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some of the destiny's child music in
a new light And tell a new story same

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material new story and in a way new
genre, kind of, you know what I mean?

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Then after Homecoming, she took on both
the Lion King project and the Carters,

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um, together their album, I think
in 2018, called Everything Is Love.

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Um, that was very much a hip hop album,
but the Lion King record that she released

00:23:51.210 --> 00:23:55.030
over the course of two years, first just
the soundtrack and the music, and then

00:23:55.030 --> 00:24:00.465
the next year was the fully fleshed out
visual, um, film called black is king.

00:24:00.685 --> 00:24:05.674
That was very much more than just an
exploration of blackness, very much a

00:24:05.684 --> 00:24:09.145
deep dive into modern, uh, African music.

00:24:09.344 --> 00:24:13.675
Now that album, while it was so
celebrated visually and the, the

00:24:13.675 --> 00:24:19.244
amount of like fashion, aesthetic,
musical, historical, traditional,

00:24:19.274 --> 00:24:22.204
cultural, ethnic, religious imagery.

00:24:22.475 --> 00:24:29.905
that she wove into that project was
so extraordinary but musically she

00:24:29.905 --> 00:24:34.935
was criticized for overemphasizing
eastern african music and kind of

00:24:34.955 --> 00:24:39.064
leaving western african music out of
the equation when even just by the

00:24:39.065 --> 00:24:43.235
standards of like the modern charts
there were a lot of artists creating

00:24:43.235 --> 00:24:48.115
songs that are making global waves from
western africa that she kind of missed.

00:24:49.265 --> 00:24:51.514
You know, we're holding
her to at this point.

00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.470
A rather impossible standard.

00:24:53.470 --> 00:24:56.740
How could any one person capture an
entire continent's worth of music

00:24:56.970 --> 00:24:58.840
in the modern day on one album?

00:24:58.840 --> 00:25:04.460
Let alone ever But, it does at least
invite the conversation of if you're going

00:25:04.460 --> 00:25:10.079
to do something, do it with its fullest
intentionality and comprehensiveness,

00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:11.960
at least what's available to you.

00:25:12.419 --> 00:25:17.530
It also came out that one of the reference
films that she used for the video for

00:25:17.705 --> 00:25:20.905
Maybe it was a couple of the videos where
she, she and all of the dancers were

00:25:20.915 --> 00:25:25.645
posed in like different jewel tone fabrics
and different natural environments that

00:25:25.865 --> 00:25:28.744
either were in Africa, I don't know where
she filmed it, but it was like in desert

00:25:28.745 --> 00:25:30.955
conditions and like savannah landscapes.

00:25:31.175 --> 00:25:36.184
There was like blues and greens and
pinks and reds, was very much just lifted

00:25:36.184 --> 00:25:40.850
from like an art house film and people
were posting like, that she didn't give

00:25:40.850 --> 00:25:45.580
credit, it seemed, to that film, I can't
remember the name, um, or the creator,

00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:51.540
this is definitely where, like, my art
limits lie, but the story started being

00:25:51.540 --> 00:25:55.919
told of, like, you know, the more of
these, like, big stories that Beyoncé

00:25:55.930 --> 00:26:00.415
wants to take on, the more risk there
is for her to not get it fully right

00:26:00.605 --> 00:26:02.655
because number one, she hasn't lived it.

00:26:02.665 --> 00:26:04.295
You know, she's from Houston.

00:26:04.295 --> 00:26:06.685
She's from a certain level of affluence.

00:26:06.685 --> 00:26:09.904
She's from, you know, a background
that was rather comfortable.

00:26:09.905 --> 00:26:14.145
And yes, she's now a billionaire with
a lot of access to a lot of things.

00:26:14.865 --> 00:26:18.795
In a way like it can feel like she's
just trampling upon the things that

00:26:18.795 --> 00:26:23.525
she's trying to speak of And it
also invited kind of a retrospective

00:26:23.545 --> 00:26:25.014
conversation about lemonade.

00:26:25.014 --> 00:26:29.215
Lemonade came out the same year as
Solange's kind of like big tour de

00:26:29.215 --> 00:26:33.845
force work Um, which was called a seat
at the table, which was a different

00:26:34.175 --> 00:26:40.375
Um, take on kind of modern feminine
blackness in America, specifically,

00:26:40.375 --> 00:26:43.655
really routed in like New Orleans
and southern gothic imagery.

00:26:43.965 --> 00:26:46.805
Now she performed that and built
that entire body of work very

00:26:46.805 --> 00:26:49.415
differently than Beyonce, but
they came out only months apart.

00:26:49.434 --> 00:26:53.235
And it does kind of look like
Beyonce was like, I'm kind of

00:26:53.255 --> 00:26:56.475
going to take my sister's thing
and like put my story in it.

00:26:57.010 --> 00:27:02.480
So, you know, in reflecting on who
Beyonce is as an artist, because

00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:07.380
she's not necessarily the, she's not
like putting her stock in just being

00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:09.380
a writer, or just being a singer.

00:27:09.380 --> 00:27:12.710
She's really the storyteller
and the performer.

00:27:12.860 --> 00:27:15.059
Everyone knows that she can
perform the house down and that

00:27:15.060 --> 00:27:17.339
she always will and always has.

00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.559
No one questions that, least of all me.

00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:25.365
But the bigger, broader, and more personal
and emotive the stories are that she

00:27:25.365 --> 00:27:29.765
takes on, it seems like not only does she
take on greater risk of getting it wrong,

00:27:29.825 --> 00:27:36.545
especially if it's not exactly her story,
but the stakes are higher for then, like,

00:27:36.585 --> 00:27:41.124
if she does get it wrong and the folks
that are listening to her don't notice

00:27:41.354 --> 00:27:46.285
that the story suffers a lot of erasure
and that there's parts of it missing

00:27:46.295 --> 00:27:50.834
and what we don't want is an artist who
just has money, access, and power to

00:27:50.835 --> 00:27:56.525
rewrite a history that They belong to,
but that they don't necessarily have the

00:27:56.525 --> 00:28:00.955
authority to tell on their own right, or
in their own terms, if that makes sense.

00:28:00.955 --> 00:28:06.454
And so, that sets up my concern
for Beyoncé kind of delving after

00:28:06.465 --> 00:28:10.035
her house moment into country.

00:28:10.235 --> 00:28:14.495
Now, Renaissance was a highly
reference filled album and

00:28:14.495 --> 00:28:15.875
a highly referential album.

00:28:15.875 --> 00:28:19.725
It was filled with samples, filled
with interpolations, just like teams

00:28:19.725 --> 00:28:24.435
of writers, like it was a panoply of
names and collaborators and references.

00:28:24.464 --> 00:28:29.065
And I think In a way, that kind of
moonshot approach of like, we have

00:28:29.065 --> 00:28:33.785
to include anyone and everything, not
indiscriminately, but very mindfully,

00:28:33.785 --> 00:28:38.915
and with a really, really broad net,
was correct, especially having come from

00:28:38.915 --> 00:28:43.524
Black is King, when her criticism was that
the net was not wide enough, or that it

00:28:43.525 --> 00:28:47.655
was not a representative enough sample,
if she's gonna step into that story.

00:28:48.175 --> 00:28:53.880
So, Renaissance was not criticized, to
my knowledge or my understanding, as

00:28:53.890 --> 00:29:01.989
much for those reasons as Black as King
was, but there does kind of still exist

00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:07.965
the potential criticism that like, She
is speaking all of a sudden for like

00:29:07.965 --> 00:29:12.325
a Black queer history that she's not
really spoken of in that way before.

00:29:12.675 --> 00:29:18.634
Is that story rightfully hers to go over
to, sit in, build community in, build

00:29:18.635 --> 00:29:20.885
performance in, and then move on from?

00:29:20.895 --> 00:29:24.085
Like, is that not exactly
what the queer experience is?

00:29:24.340 --> 00:29:24.880
Period.

00:29:24.890 --> 00:29:27.040
People doing that, you
know, like taking things.

00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:31.130
But, the same could be said
of the Black experience.

00:29:31.130 --> 00:29:32.979
And I think that's her point.

00:29:33.320 --> 00:29:38.719
She wants to perform back to us the
way that Black stories, Black bodies,

00:29:38.730 --> 00:29:45.910
Black cultures have been colonized
and sold back to Black people, White

00:29:45.910 --> 00:29:49.900
people, to all people, as if they
were never theirs to begin with.

00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:55.150
So renaissance to me as a not black
person myself, but as a queer person

00:29:55.840 --> 00:30:02.760
got a stronger more cohesive mix
of blackness, queerdom, femininity,

00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:08.270
also like nouveau masculinity
routed in ballroom house and disco.

00:30:08.875 --> 00:30:12.395
better than some of her other
referential projects had.

00:30:12.635 --> 00:30:16.675
So, from that perspective, I should
have confidence in what's to come.

00:30:16.895 --> 00:30:19.895
Now, I do not have the keys
to the country kingdom.

00:30:19.895 --> 00:30:24.684
Like, I'm not gonna necessarily be able
to know how right she gets some of these

00:30:24.685 --> 00:30:28.800
references, but country is as broad of
a genre as any, so You know, even just

00:30:28.800 --> 00:30:32.570
in my joke of like how many pop stars
have gone West, I realized like, well,

00:30:32.570 --> 00:30:34.660
West is like one version of it, you know?

00:30:34.660 --> 00:30:39.060
Like, mid century American, like,
Western frontierism and like the sounds

00:30:39.060 --> 00:30:42.109
that came out of it is one thing and
that's a complicated history, right?

00:30:42.109 --> 00:30:45.209
It's like a robbing of native peoples
of their cultures and traditions.

00:30:45.510 --> 00:30:48.650
and their music and their
aesthetics and their stories.

00:30:48.690 --> 00:30:50.190
There's also the Southwest.

00:30:50.210 --> 00:30:51.520
There's also the South.

00:30:51.530 --> 00:30:55.270
There's also the Midwest like,
and there's in some parts like the

00:30:55.350 --> 00:31:00.819
Northwest, like these all occupy country
folk and storytelling genres that

00:31:00.819 --> 00:31:06.349
use like guitars and certain canons
of song craftsmanship differently.

00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.520
How and what she will embody.

00:31:08.690 --> 00:31:13.400
and what she'll choose to embody, like
we will see, but it will be interesting

00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:19.340
because now the judges of her success
of having done this will very much

00:31:19.350 --> 00:31:21.210
be the white country establishment.

00:31:21.219 --> 00:31:22.780
They will be white people.

00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.530
And she's already lived to prove
the point that like, they hold

00:31:26.530 --> 00:31:28.980
that gate locked and closed.

00:31:29.080 --> 00:31:32.410
They do not let people in very easily.

00:31:32.410 --> 00:31:38.335
And country, I think, is a particularly
stratified Um, musical organization

00:31:38.335 --> 00:31:39.805
in the world now more than ever.

00:31:39.805 --> 00:31:45.205
I mean, even a white woman, Maren Morris,
if y'all know her, who came up in country,

00:31:45.335 --> 00:31:50.114
you know, set her, or like, put her
roots down, her musical foundations in

00:31:50.115 --> 00:31:54.370
Nashville, which is like the country music
capital of the country, if not, Austin,

00:31:54.370 --> 00:31:55.930
I think Nashville is still number one.

00:31:56.180 --> 00:32:00.720
She has like made a big stank in a
way out of like, I'm leaving country

00:32:00.840 --> 00:32:04.780
because country is so still anti
woman, anti feminist, anti queer that

00:32:04.790 --> 00:32:09.209
I don't belong here because I want
those people to know that I represent

00:32:09.210 --> 00:32:13.479
them and they do not feel represented
by this country music establishment,

00:32:13.530 --> 00:32:15.190
so nor do I, so I'm leaving.

00:32:15.470 --> 00:32:20.335
I wonder what she has to say about a
Beyoncé being like, I've never I've

00:32:20.335 --> 00:32:24.185
tried one time to belong and I already
was like boxed out, but now I'm going

00:32:24.185 --> 00:32:27.685
to go in harder because I'm richer,
bigger and more powerful than ever.

00:32:27.945 --> 00:32:29.335
And I have a story to tell.

00:32:29.614 --> 00:32:31.305
I wonder what Marin would say.

00:32:31.305 --> 00:32:33.165
And if she's going to be
like, good luck, girl.

00:32:33.175 --> 00:32:37.434
Like people are going to say things,
write stories, criticize you in

00:32:37.434 --> 00:32:39.185
ways like you've never thought of.

00:32:39.255 --> 00:32:41.185
And maybe that's the point.

00:32:41.685 --> 00:32:43.245
And that's really intense.

00:32:43.595 --> 00:32:49.145
Like to imagine the record coming out, the
criticisms that will inevitably come out.

00:32:49.800 --> 00:32:54.640
Purely because someone that looks
like, sounds like, and performs like

00:32:54.660 --> 00:32:59.120
Beyonce is performing country music
with no other context than that.

00:32:59.450 --> 00:33:05.770
Like, that's intense, and no one should
have to suffer that level of like, racist,

00:33:06.059 --> 00:33:08.510
anti female, anti queer gatekeeping.

00:33:08.560 --> 00:33:13.050
Is there still a reasonable, critical
eye that we should have on her of like,

00:33:13.050 --> 00:33:15.750
how correct does she get her references?

00:33:15.879 --> 00:33:20.930
To me, I think Her collaborators,
if she chooses to collaborate,

00:33:20.930 --> 00:33:22.130
I like hope she does.

00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:23.910
I think that's gonna be one key to this.

00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.730
She didn't really Collaborate with
a lot of people on Renaissance.

00:33:27.730 --> 00:33:32.230
She referenced a lot I think this would
be the album to collaborate, to actually

00:33:32.569 --> 00:33:37.070
bring the other Storytellers who have
lived this a little bit more than her

00:33:37.375 --> 00:33:41.075
Into not just the creation but the
performance and give them the credit

00:33:41.075 --> 00:33:44.785
like put them in the artist line with
her I think that's one way to do it.

00:33:45.055 --> 00:33:50.215
I think another way will just be To
do it differently and maybe she has

00:33:50.215 --> 00:33:55.655
her intentions set on that my initial
reluctance and fear was just like it's

00:33:55.694 --> 00:34:00.430
easy to put a hat on and to put a costume
on and to like Play country, you know and

00:34:00.430 --> 00:34:06.070
like in a way that can also be its own
performance like in like a drag or camp

00:34:06.070 --> 00:34:11.389
way To show a genre that like y'all it's
not that hard We can all put the costume

00:34:11.389 --> 00:34:15.559
on and like do si do and line dance and
like do the shit that y'all are over there

00:34:15.580 --> 00:34:19.800
gatekeeping Needlessly by the way from
the people that created this genre That's

00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:24.730
actually an interesting performance,
but it's also really surface and doesn't

00:34:24.730 --> 00:34:29.749
go to where I know that Beyoncé, at
this level of her career, wants to go.

00:34:30.250 --> 00:34:34.429
But my hope is that she will get into
some of the, I mean, she's explored New

00:34:34.430 --> 00:34:38.869
Orleans almost in like a fetishizing way
at this point, and there's a lot to be

00:34:38.869 --> 00:34:43.489
told of country music, of blues music,
of pre jazz, jazz music in New Orleans,

00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:49.080
where so much Like gospel, blues, jazz,
and country all came together to form

00:34:49.080 --> 00:34:52.310
new genres and like all of it was black.

00:34:52.640 --> 00:34:57.210
There's so much to be told there and
I wonder if and what former musicians

00:34:57.220 --> 00:35:01.780
she will involve in her song making,
what current musicians she will, and I

00:35:01.780 --> 00:35:07.510
hope she will also use this opportunity
to like push the space open for more.

00:35:07.810 --> 00:35:11.640
Um, because that maybe
was something I don't.

00:35:12.670 --> 00:35:17.600
Renaissance did, she didn't need to,
but it, Renaissance felt like, house

00:35:17.600 --> 00:35:20.980
is fun, I have a connection to this
because I, I mean, she has a very

00:35:20.980 --> 00:35:25.250
real connection through her, like,
gay uncle who I believe Died of AIDS.

00:35:25.250 --> 00:35:26.690
Please fact check me if I'm wrong.

00:35:26.710 --> 00:35:28.340
I think she has said that on the record.

00:35:28.870 --> 00:35:32.690
Like, she, she had a personal
connection to House and Ballroom.

00:35:32.980 --> 00:35:35.700
But she is just kind of
like, leaving it now.

00:35:36.450 --> 00:35:40.799
I don't know if that's gonna set the stage
for it to like, thrive better as a more

00:35:40.799 --> 00:35:43.820
inclusive and visible genre in a way.

00:35:44.570 --> 00:35:45.920
And I don't know if that's her point.

00:35:45.930 --> 00:35:47.530
Like, now I'm kind of talking in circles.

00:35:47.530 --> 00:35:50.080
Like, How much can we
actually expect of someone?

00:35:50.080 --> 00:35:56.150
But, I think my last point, the reason I'm
like, getting to this like, heavily nodded

00:35:56.220 --> 00:36:00.900
point or set of points is because like
Sometimes it just comes back to like this

00:36:00.900 --> 00:36:04.610
woman is a billionaire You know, there's
we have a lot of billionaires on earth now

00:36:04.940 --> 00:36:09.049
um Not all of them control culture the way
that beyonce does and the way that taylor

00:36:09.050 --> 00:36:14.600
swift does in a way like beyonce is using
this opportunity weaponizing her power

00:36:14.600 --> 00:36:18.380
for good hopefully to Teach us something.

00:36:19.060 --> 00:36:26.329
Whereas, like, I think Taylor is trying
to use her power to explore internal

00:36:26.330 --> 00:36:28.479
monologues on the biggest scale possible.

00:36:28.479 --> 00:36:30.880
Now, that's, like, maybe over
reductive, but that's, like, what I see.

00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.670
You know, Taylor is taking her singer
songwriter thing to its vertical zenith.

00:36:35.245 --> 00:36:38.285
and Beyonce is casting
the net horizontally.

00:36:38.875 --> 00:36:41.885
Those are two different approaches
and I think it's admirable to do,

00:36:42.165 --> 00:36:44.115
I hope, what Beyonce wants to do.

00:36:44.305 --> 00:36:49.605
It's also really cool the rumors now are
that she will do her third chapter, uh, in

00:36:49.614 --> 00:36:54.715
the rock vein to reclaim yet a third genre
that was like Black owned and operated,

00:36:54.715 --> 00:36:59.715
Black founded, co opted by white people,
sold back to, you know, the masses as

00:36:59.715 --> 00:37:01.265
if white people had been there first.

00:37:01.265 --> 00:37:04.854
I mean, like, the Elvis Presley syndrome
of it all, like, as if he was, like, the

00:37:04.855 --> 00:37:09.195
ultimate rock star, whereas, like, his
songwriters were all Black, you know, etc.

00:37:09.715 --> 00:37:12.765
Like, that's a super
interesting story to be told.

00:37:12.785 --> 00:37:17.295
It just will kind of always beg the
question, is it her story to be told?

00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:21.390
Does it matter, you know, if the story
is being told by someone who is being

00:37:21.410 --> 00:37:26.070
as careful, cautious, and thoughtful
as possible, and belongs to one of

00:37:26.070 --> 00:37:29.250
the communities or multiple of the
communities of which she is speaking?

00:37:29.470 --> 00:37:31.600
Maybe it doesn't matter
that it's not her story.

00:37:32.130 --> 00:37:36.209
I guess I just have trouble being,
like, following a billionaire,

00:37:36.250 --> 00:37:37.470
you know, into the sunset.

00:37:37.470 --> 00:37:41.360
Because at the end of the day,
She is just like selling us stuff

00:37:41.610 --> 00:37:43.250
and she is controlling culture.

00:37:43.250 --> 00:37:48.530
She is using the super bowl to like put
out an ad, you know, like at the very

00:37:48.530 --> 00:37:51.050
surface, it is like some eye rolly stuff.

00:37:51.299 --> 00:37:54.340
Whereas like, I don't know what
the alternative would be just like

00:37:54.340 --> 00:37:55.999
go enjoy your life and your money.

00:37:56.049 --> 00:37:59.970
I don't necessarily think that's
better or like of higher integrity

00:37:59.980 --> 00:38:06.730
or like moral superiority, but I
think it's reasonable to criticize

00:38:06.750 --> 00:38:09.539
or to scrutinize billionaires.

00:38:10.060 --> 00:38:13.890
At this level like I'm sorry, I think
if you have that much money And if you

00:38:13.900 --> 00:38:17.250
have that much control and you have
that much power, we're gonna look at you

00:38:17.250 --> 00:38:21.105
sideways Literally for the rest of your
life, and I think that's reasonable.

00:38:21.175 --> 00:38:25.495
I don't think that's a bad thing, because
there's so few of them, and their choices

00:38:25.495 --> 00:38:27.175
should be looked at under a microscope.

00:38:27.175 --> 00:38:30.344
Like, I know in Taylor's world, she's
getting, like, her airplane's being

00:38:30.345 --> 00:38:33.615
tracked, or one of her airplanes is being
tracked right now, and like, obviously

00:38:33.615 --> 00:38:37.345
that puts her in some imminent danger,
but like, the person has a point!

00:38:37.405 --> 00:38:41.155
Like, this woman is like, her carbon
footprint is like, exponentially

00:38:41.155 --> 00:38:44.455
bigger than any one of ours, and like,
we're the ones bearing the brunt of

00:38:44.465 --> 00:38:48.730
the The effects, you know, and like
she's not like those kind of things.

00:38:48.730 --> 00:38:53.250
I think are reasonable It really is of our
generation and the generations following

00:38:53.250 --> 00:38:55.069
to be like, but like, but what do we do?

00:38:55.080 --> 00:38:59.239
We can't handcuff everyone that
might get to that status to do

00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.960
nothing for the rest of their lives
because we'll find Error in that too.

00:39:03.420 --> 00:39:07.049
I guess just me in my heart of hearts
as someone that loves music more than

00:39:07.049 --> 00:39:11.615
anything in the world I am more reluctant
to follow the most popular person in

00:39:11.615 --> 00:39:16.855
the world than I am the person that no
one knows about who's doing something

00:39:16.855 --> 00:39:18.615
just for the joy of it that they love.

00:39:18.615 --> 00:39:21.205
You know, I always like finding an
artist on their first or second albums

00:39:21.414 --> 00:39:24.214
when they're just doing it because
they don't know what else to do and

00:39:24.215 --> 00:39:26.725
that's just what they were born to
do and there's just no question.

00:39:26.944 --> 00:39:31.565
Like, and in a way their story doesn't
deserve to be held by the shoulders

00:39:31.565 --> 00:39:35.465
and shaken for its seriousness or its
integrity or its comprehensiveness this

00:39:35.465 --> 00:39:39.430
much because Usually they're young, they
only know so much, we can only expect

00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:44.010
them to know so much, and like, maybe
that's like the, the great conundrum of

00:39:44.010 --> 00:39:47.580
youth, like, they don't know what they
have, you know, like, they are, in a

00:39:47.580 --> 00:39:50.550
way, like, they can't bear the brunt of
criticism because they only know what

00:39:50.550 --> 00:39:53.970
they know, and they're doing what they
know how to do, and as soon as that line

00:39:53.970 --> 00:40:00.040
is crossed of being too wealthy, too
powerful, too able to know more, Uh,

00:40:00.410 --> 00:40:04.970
we then, our standards shift, and it's
interesting to really think, like, I don't

00:40:04.970 --> 00:40:07.430
know when that happens, I don't know if
it's a dollar amount, I don't know if

00:40:07.430 --> 00:40:12.680
it's, like, a measurable piece of, like,
how we can measure their power, but I do

00:40:12.700 --> 00:40:15.269
think it's reasonable, you know, I think
it's reasonable for Beyonce and Taylor

00:40:15.269 --> 00:40:18.870
to be scrutinized at this level, not to
be made unsafe, but to be scrutinized,

00:40:18.910 --> 00:40:22.910
because their stories are being told
10 million, or let's just say 1 billion

00:40:22.910 --> 00:40:27.540
times louder, So, if they're going to
step out of their stories and tell bigger

00:40:27.540 --> 00:40:32.930
stories, we deserve to scrutinize those
a billion times more than any individual

00:40:32.930 --> 00:40:34.370
that, like, doesn't have that power.

00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:34.749
You know?

00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:36.199
So, whoo!

00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:39.270
Y'all, I was really going
there for quite a while.

00:40:40.020 --> 00:40:44.470
Um, Those are the reasons that I
think I had a hard time at the surface

00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:48.220
with being like, she's putting on the
country costume and like, saddling up.

00:40:48.430 --> 00:40:52.759
But, there is so much potential here
and there is so much learning for her

00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.099
to help us all do, including herself,
you know, and I hope that that's the

00:40:57.099 --> 00:40:59.810
thesis statement of this next project.

00:41:00.240 --> 00:41:03.919
And, y'all, honestly, Daddy
Lessons was such a serve.

00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:05.710
Like, she embodies the genre well.

00:41:06.145 --> 00:41:10.925
It'll be totally kick ass if, like, she
can not only own it and make beautiful

00:41:10.955 --> 00:41:14.585
music, and it looks like she's gonna
release some visuals this time, but to

00:41:14.585 --> 00:41:18.484
also, like, really kick some of the doors
in on the country music establishment

00:41:18.484 --> 00:41:24.035
that have stood an unreasonable test of
time, um, as, like, keeping people out.

00:41:24.045 --> 00:41:25.375
You know, like, that'll
be really cool, too.

00:41:25.375 --> 00:41:29.795
So, anyway, y'all, you know, I guess
at the end of the day, we can now Add

00:41:29.795 --> 00:41:33.865
Beyonce to the great canon of pop stars
that go through a country chapter.

00:41:34.025 --> 00:41:35.035
What do y'all think?

00:41:35.435 --> 00:41:38.654
Uh, did y'all hear resonant
points that you agree with?

00:41:38.654 --> 00:41:40.175
Did you hear things you
really don't agree with?

00:41:40.175 --> 00:41:45.265
Please let me know It's rare to
have someone on earth like Beyonce

00:41:45.284 --> 00:41:49.485
that can spark this level of
conversation So like let's have it.

00:41:49.485 --> 00:41:50.855
I think that's the best part of all this.

00:41:50.885 --> 00:41:55.760
Um, thanks for tuning in y'all and
Uh, please, you know Support me and

00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.660
be encouraging on my little journey
doing this because it is an act of

00:42:00.750 --> 00:42:06.019
vulnerability and I am not a billionaire
I am not a millionaire Uh, and it's

00:42:06.019 --> 00:42:10.620
just me talking to a camera trying to
Feel life in my veins just the same.

00:42:10.620 --> 00:42:14.850
So thank you for the support
so far and uh, help me up level

00:42:14.850 --> 00:42:17.020
You know nudge me in the right
directions, but be nice about it.

00:42:17.020 --> 00:42:19.360
Okay Uh, i'll see you next time.

00:42:19.470 --> 00:42:20.620
Thanks for tuning into the vocal