1 00:00:00,868 --> 00:00:06,977 Hello everyone and welcome to another fantastic episode of Bikinis After Babies. 2 00:00:06,977 --> 00:00:11,343 Of course, I am one of your hosts, Mandi Rashad, here with your other beautiful 3 00:00:11,343 --> 00:00:13,796 blonde host, Gillian Hughes. 4 00:00:13,796 --> 00:00:15,296 How are you doing, Jillian? 5 00:00:15,296 --> 00:00:16,387 I'm good. 6 00:00:16,387 --> 00:00:18,098 Thank you everybody for tuning in. 7 00:00:18,098 --> 00:00:22,442 It's lovely to see you Mandy, even though I got to see you in person this past 8 00:00:22,442 --> 00:00:23,812 weekend. 9 00:00:24,013 --> 00:00:30,358 And I'm excited about today's episode and just to share sort of a recap of what's 10 00:00:30,358 --> 00:00:35,361 been going on since we took last week off because I was traveling. 11 00:00:35,382 --> 00:00:38,724 And so we're back with a banger. 12 00:00:38,954 --> 00:00:42,397 Yes, it was so great to be able to see you this weekend. 13 00:00:42,397 --> 00:00:45,450 That restaurant was absolutely fantastic. 14 00:00:47,773 --> 00:00:49,373 I know, I swear you 15 00:00:49,373 --> 00:00:50,204 place. 16 00:00:51,088 --> 00:00:55,948 Jillian wanted to go to this restaurant whenever she came back from universe in So 17 00:00:55,948 --> 00:01:00,548 what universe was in New Jersey, New York and you flew back Saturday morning And so 18 00:01:00,548 --> 00:01:04,308 we went out to dinner Saturday night because I was in st Louis over the week 19 00:01:04,308 --> 00:01:08,388 for 4th of July weekend visiting family So Jillian sent me this restaurant, which 20 00:01:08,388 --> 00:01:12,368 what was it's called Geo's Geo's Italian Geo. 21 00:01:12,368 --> 00:01:12,728 Oh my god. 22 00:01:12,728 --> 00:01:18,508 I looked at the menu and I was like, oh I could pick like five things 500 things 23 00:01:18,508 --> 00:01:19,468 from here. 24 00:01:19,468 --> 00:01:20,408 So 25 00:01:20,587 --> 00:01:24,169 And I have really just like this whole prep, like not really gone out to eat 26 00:01:24,169 --> 00:01:28,120 much, like in prior preps, like maybe taking more of like a flexible dieting 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,912 approach, like, and going out to eat more, but just like we have been so busy this 28 00:01:31,912 --> 00:01:35,964 year with my husband's, you know, new career change and like all these things 29 00:01:35,964 --> 00:01:37,885 going on and just tons going. 30 00:01:37,885 --> 00:01:39,905 We just like have not been out to eat. 31 00:01:39,905 --> 00:01:44,497 And so it was, it's hard for me to choose sometimes cause I'm like, it really don't 32 00:01:44,497 --> 00:01:44,597 know. 33 00:01:44,597 --> 00:01:47,839 There's all these new places, but this is a place that we've gone to several times 34 00:01:47,839 --> 00:01:49,980 and it's so good and everything on the menu was amazing. 35 00:01:49,980 --> 00:01:50,523 So. 36 00:01:50,523 --> 00:01:52,271 I am still thinking about it. 37 00:01:52,271 --> 00:01:53,211 So good. 38 00:01:53,211 --> 00:01:54,921 it's so nice to have those reliable places. 39 00:01:54,921 --> 00:01:59,283 Cause even like when you're deep in prep, it's nice to be able to have your food. 40 00:01:59,283 --> 00:02:03,504 Like we always talk about, know, have our food ready, reliable, easy to grab, easy 41 00:02:03,504 --> 00:02:04,204 to do. 42 00:02:04,204 --> 00:02:06,145 We're so busy running around all the time. 43 00:02:06,145 --> 00:02:09,386 So picking a place can be kind of difficult and having a place that you 44 00:02:09,386 --> 00:02:12,477 know, like here in Kansas city, it's Bristol. 45 00:02:12,477 --> 00:02:15,468 Like I know if I go to Bristol seafood, like. 46 00:02:16,278 --> 00:02:16,834 Yeah. 47 00:02:16,834 --> 00:02:19,748 They're so reliable and they're so good. 48 00:02:19,748 --> 00:02:21,551 So it's like, it's nice to have that. 49 00:02:21,551 --> 00:02:23,935 So you knew you were gonna get a good meal. 50 00:02:23,935 --> 00:02:27,274 like I don't need to like try a bunch of different places because I would hate for 51 00:02:27,274 --> 00:02:29,147 like my one cheat mail to 52 00:02:29,541 --> 00:02:30,281 suck. 53 00:02:30,281 --> 00:02:35,083 And that was kind of why I waited because we did think about staying in New York an 54 00:02:35,083 --> 00:02:39,465 extra day, but I was like, I mean, if we go home, I know exactly where I'll eat. 55 00:02:39,465 --> 00:02:43,537 Like I know, you know, I've got a short window of time to like enjoy some extra 56 00:02:43,537 --> 00:02:44,047 calories. 57 00:02:44,047 --> 00:02:47,919 Like there's nothing worse than going to like a restaurant and there's like just 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,480 nothing that kind of scratches the itch. 59 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,861 And you're just feeling like really like not satisfied. 60 00:02:51,861 --> 00:02:55,022 So it was like just amazing and just fun to hang out with you. 61 00:02:55,022 --> 00:02:57,573 I felt like we were on a date and then our husbands were on another date, like 62 00:02:57,573 --> 00:02:59,245 without us because like, 63 00:02:59,245 --> 00:03:04,538 it was, well that and I didn't realize it until that morning but that was Erin's 64 00:03:04,538 --> 00:03:06,069 first time meeting you. 65 00:03:06,209 --> 00:03:10,241 I don't know why, I just was like, my gosh. 66 00:03:10,241 --> 00:03:14,094 So yeah, it was our husband's first time meeting and then I met Brian before last 67 00:03:14,094 --> 00:03:15,675 year for like our Christmas party. 68 00:03:15,675 --> 00:03:20,477 But no, it was, they had like their own little date and we had our date and it was 69 00:03:20,758 --> 00:03:21,690 super fun. 70 00:03:21,690 --> 00:03:22,781 so good. 71 00:03:22,781 --> 00:03:23,231 my gosh. 72 00:03:23,231 --> 00:03:26,854 I did have like wicked heartburn the next day though, just cause that was like a lot 73 00:03:26,854 --> 00:03:28,706 of like, just like it was rich. 74 00:03:28,706 --> 00:03:33,029 Like I don't really, I couldn't really eat much, you know, as much as I wanted to. 75 00:03:33,029 --> 00:03:34,580 was like, I'm stuffed. 76 00:03:34,981 --> 00:03:36,712 but yeah, it was, it was amazing. 77 00:03:36,712 --> 00:03:39,905 I've been dreaming about it pretty much ever since because we went right back into 78 00:03:39,905 --> 00:03:40,696 prep the next day. 79 00:03:40,696 --> 00:03:44,028 So we're in the trenches again, but that's okay. 80 00:03:45,780 --> 00:03:46,781 it's always okay. 81 00:03:46,781 --> 00:03:51,336 It's always, the grind is always, you get like that nice treat and you're like, but 82 00:03:51,336 --> 00:03:53,908 you're so ready for like to get right back at it. 83 00:03:53,908 --> 00:03:56,321 So let's talk about it. 84 00:03:56,321 --> 00:04:02,147 Let's talk about the big show, which I do want to say I just saw your reel from 85 00:04:02,147 --> 00:04:02,807 Gilco. 86 00:04:04,532 --> 00:04:05,466 Yeah. 87 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,333 My gosh, that is stunning. 88 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:10,265 Like that's absolutely stunning. 89 00:04:10,265 --> 00:04:15,246 I honestly, like I saw that on Instagram and I was like, holy shit, Jillian. 90 00:04:15,246 --> 00:04:20,106 It was, it's really cool footage that we got from, that show. 91 00:04:20,106 --> 00:04:23,526 Like, I mean, even when I opened it, I was like, is that me? 92 00:04:23,526 --> 00:04:28,246 Like, and I, I always, I will say, I like, I'm, this is something we've thought about 93 00:04:28,246 --> 00:04:29,406 doing a whole episode about. 94 00:04:29,406 --> 00:04:31,926 It's like social media because it is my bum. 95 00:04:31,926 --> 00:04:36,506 It's my body and I am a mother and I have children and you know, three of my five 96 00:04:36,506 --> 00:04:38,866 kids are on Instagram and a lot of their friends and stuff. 97 00:04:38,866 --> 00:04:39,826 And I'm like, it's my butt. 98 00:04:39,826 --> 00:04:41,106 Do I put it on Instagram? 99 00:04:41,106 --> 00:04:42,666 But I'm like, you know what? 100 00:04:42,666 --> 00:04:45,413 One day I'm going to be like 90. 101 00:04:45,413 --> 00:04:49,246 old and I'm gonna be like look at how good I looked when I was in my 40s and also 102 00:04:49,246 --> 00:04:55,021 like I'm in my 40s right so I was like screw it I'm posting it and but yeah I 103 00:04:55,021 --> 00:05:00,064 mean just like I mean everybody was was there as far as like all of the 104 00:05:00,064 --> 00:05:06,189 photographers and it was just it was such I've done the show before and I I love the 105 00:05:06,189 --> 00:05:11,043 venue and I love I love everything about it it was it was just as magical you know 106 00:05:11,043 --> 00:05:14,736 what probably a little more magical this year because of all of the amazing people 107 00:05:14,736 --> 00:05:15,069 that I 108 00:05:15,069 --> 00:05:20,878 that had listened to the podcast and followed my journey a little bit. 109 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,273 yeah, it was a lot of fun. 110 00:05:23,273 --> 00:05:23,794 It really was. 111 00:05:23,794 --> 00:05:24,445 So. 112 00:05:24,972 --> 00:05:26,574 Awesome, I bet. 113 00:05:26,574 --> 00:05:27,875 So let's talk about it though. 114 00:05:27,875 --> 00:05:31,869 So right after you were a DC show, you had a few weeks before going right into 115 00:05:31,869 --> 00:05:32,640 universe. 116 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:39,047 So can you explain a few things that you did differently compared to the DC show to 117 00:05:39,047 --> 00:05:40,368 going into this show? 118 00:05:40,974 --> 00:05:48,117 Yeah, so, feedback in DC was, just like, fuller glutes and, know, we had talked 119 00:05:48,117 --> 00:05:52,579 about kind of post, DC, like, you know, feeling like I had flattened out a little 120 00:05:52,579 --> 00:05:54,030 bit and that was like a night show. 121 00:05:54,030 --> 00:05:57,131 Like we didn't go on stage until like almost six o 'clock. 122 00:05:57,210 --> 00:05:59,352 so it, the whole thing was, was different. 123 00:05:59,352 --> 00:06:01,973 And like my season openers have always. 124 00:06:01,973 --> 00:06:05,955 Like I haven't come out with a bang and it's not like, it's not like, a hundred 125 00:06:05,955 --> 00:06:10,127 percent, like I am aiming for that to be, you know, my top conditioning, but it just 126 00:06:10,127 --> 00:06:10,860 sometimes takes 127 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:13,784 a show in a peak week to kind of get. 128 00:06:13,784 --> 00:06:15,374 that extra level of conditioning. 129 00:06:15,374 --> 00:06:19,205 then also like when you're at home by yourself, taking progress photos, like 130 00:06:19,205 --> 00:06:20,796 you're like, my God, I never looked better. 131 00:06:20,796 --> 00:06:21,596 Like I look amazing. 132 00:06:21,596 --> 00:06:24,516 I'm going to win, you know, and then you get on stage next to other people. 133 00:06:24,516 --> 00:06:27,897 And then you're like, okay, here's where I need to like make some improvements. 134 00:06:27,897 --> 00:06:30,468 So, that was really the purpose of that show. 135 00:06:30,468 --> 00:06:32,898 Like warm up to me didn't mean it wasn't important. 136 00:06:32,898 --> 00:06:34,629 It was a really important show. 137 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:38,210 And I was able to like take my photos and everything in and see what I needed to 138 00:06:38,210 --> 00:06:38,500 work on. 139 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:42,231 So posing was a big thing, keeping my glutes really high. 140 00:06:42,851 --> 00:06:43,711 and, 141 00:06:43,896 --> 00:06:46,157 and then just coming in a little bit tighter. 142 00:06:46,157 --> 00:06:50,079 And so we did that and, you know, a bit of a push like right away. 143 00:06:50,079 --> 00:06:52,730 And then I was kind of smooth sailing into the show. 144 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:53,450 Felt really good. 145 00:06:53,450 --> 00:06:55,321 got to New York on Tuesday. 146 00:06:55,321 --> 00:06:57,101 The show was on Friday. 147 00:06:57,302 --> 00:07:01,834 and it was like my first experience having my coach like there, like I've had other 148 00:07:01,834 --> 00:07:05,695 coaches and had them at shows, but James had coached me like basically through the 149 00:07:05,695 --> 00:07:09,567 phone when I was in DC and then he was in there, he was in New York. 150 00:07:09,797 --> 00:07:13,761 so I got to pose with a few other athletes on the team and then we had a big group. 151 00:07:13,761 --> 00:07:16,662 posing session and got to spend time with my posing coach. 152 00:07:16,662 --> 00:07:19,123 She was there doing some like final last details. 153 00:07:19,123 --> 00:07:21,493 And I think that gave me a lot of confidence to just kind of feeling like 154 00:07:21,493 --> 00:07:25,425 they thought I was ready and you know, they got, laid eyes on me and everything. 155 00:07:25,425 --> 00:07:27,695 So, so that felt really good. 156 00:07:27,695 --> 00:07:33,187 And, we had our check -ins were Thursday and I saw a few people that I was wearing 157 00:07:33,187 --> 00:07:35,067 the podcast t -shirt. 158 00:07:35,067 --> 00:07:39,339 So, and I did that on purpose cause I wanted to like people to recognize me 159 00:07:39,339 --> 00:07:43,170 because I think people don't realize I'm so short and, 160 00:07:43,884 --> 00:07:47,696 And because I could see people kind of like backstage, like like, that Jillian? 161 00:07:47,696 --> 00:07:49,347 Because I'm like sitting in this little chair, right? 162 00:07:49,347 --> 00:07:50,497 But so I wore it on purpose. 163 00:07:50,497 --> 00:07:52,508 so a few people did say, I love your podcast. 164 00:07:52,508 --> 00:07:53,529 I was like, thank you. 165 00:07:53,529 --> 00:07:53,869 Really? 166 00:07:53,869 --> 00:07:55,279 Thank you. 167 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:56,330 So that was really fun. 168 00:07:56,330 --> 00:07:59,421 And, know, just lots of camaraderie and everybody was really sweet. 169 00:07:59,421 --> 00:08:02,133 then show day was great. 170 00:08:02,133 --> 00:08:04,644 I didn't even have like an absurd hair and makeup time. 171 00:08:04,644 --> 00:08:07,275 Like it was like six, like nothing crazy. 172 00:08:07,275 --> 00:08:12,577 And so I had my hair and makeup done by Team V with V, the makeup artist, and she 173 00:08:12,577 --> 00:08:13,288 was there. 174 00:08:13,288 --> 00:08:14,040 And 175 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,823 all of her girls and she was already booked like I couldn't get on her schedule 176 00:08:17,823 --> 00:08:23,056 but she's amazing gave me a big hug and it was just so good to see her and the energy 177 00:08:23,056 --> 00:08:27,569 in the room is amazing and I loved my hair and makeup I loved how my whole look came 178 00:08:27,569 --> 00:08:28,549 together 179 00:08:29,806 --> 00:08:36,249 So yeah, so we went into prejudging and you know, you get so nervous and at the 180 00:08:36,249 --> 00:08:39,791 last minute we heard Sandy wasn't there. 181 00:08:39,791 --> 00:08:42,252 Sandy, I don't want people to say Sandy isn't Judge Universe. 182 00:08:42,252 --> 00:08:44,583 She was at Universe two years ago when I did it. 183 00:08:44,583 --> 00:08:48,014 I like have a photo of her like in front of me on stage. 184 00:08:48,635 --> 00:08:51,746 and she was supposed to be at this show, but she had a water main break in her 185 00:08:51,746 --> 00:08:53,497 house, I think something like that. 186 00:08:53,497 --> 00:08:55,318 And so she wasn't able to make the trip. 187 00:08:55,358 --> 00:08:56,178 which is okay. 188 00:08:56,178 --> 00:08:59,572 Like, Tyler is a wonderful judge and Adela is a wonderful judge 189 00:08:59,572 --> 00:09:04,025 course, but Sandy specifically gave me some feedback at my last show and I was 190 00:09:04,025 --> 00:09:07,778 excited to like see if she like recognized me and like acknowledge that I had made 191 00:09:07,778 --> 00:09:11,821 progress, even though she sees like thousands of women all the time. 192 00:09:11,821 --> 00:09:14,914 There's probably no way that she would remember me, but still you in your head, 193 00:09:14,914 --> 00:09:18,646 you think, okay, well I was asked to improve. 194 00:09:18,687 --> 00:09:19,527 She is. 195 00:09:19,527 --> 00:09:20,688 Yeah, she really is. 196 00:09:20,688 --> 00:09:23,410 So, so yeah, so I was like, that's, that's okay. 197 00:09:23,410 --> 00:09:23,821 That's fine. 198 00:09:23,821 --> 00:09:24,771 It doesn't matter. 199 00:09:24,771 --> 00:09:29,409 And then when they started lining us up, I saw, the, the girl who 200 00:09:29,409 --> 00:09:36,009 won the 40 bikini in DC and won the master's overall was in my class. 201 00:09:36,229 --> 00:09:40,809 And I wasn't like, I wasn't like disappointed, but I was like, I know she's 202 00:09:40,809 --> 00:09:42,149 so good. 203 00:09:42,149 --> 00:09:44,429 Like she's damn near untouchable. 204 00:09:44,429 --> 00:09:45,749 Like she is. 205 00:09:45,749 --> 00:09:47,209 And, um, Koa, we're talking about you. 206 00:09:47,209 --> 00:09:48,309 I love you girl. 207 00:09:48,329 --> 00:09:52,449 Um, cause we've been chatting, we've been chatting on Instagram and, um, and she is, 208 00:09:52,449 --> 00:09:56,249 and so just the total package, you know? 209 00:09:56,249 --> 00:09:58,609 And so I was like, Oh no. 210 00:09:58,609 --> 00:09:59,265 And then when I 211 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:06,025 to look around I was like this is this is not about just a pro card like how cool is 212 00:10:06,025 --> 00:10:10,785 it that I'm even here there's 17 girls in my class I will just be happy to get first 213 00:10:10,785 --> 00:10:20,025 call out 17 girls like was it 17 or 18 was it was it was 17 it was 17 yeah 17 girls 214 00:10:20,025 --> 00:10:21,365 and 40 215 00:10:21,761 --> 00:10:23,552 like so many. 216 00:10:23,972 --> 00:10:28,004 so, you know, and I'm, and I could see girls that I had seen, you know, in prior 217 00:10:28,004 --> 00:10:29,224 years that had done well. 218 00:10:29,224 --> 00:10:34,637 And I was like, just Jillian, just get out there and just do what you do. 219 00:10:34,637 --> 00:10:37,318 Have fun, leave it in the judge's hands. 220 00:10:37,318 --> 00:10:41,099 You know, you don't, it's not over if you don't win your pro card. 221 00:10:41,099 --> 00:10:44,681 So, so went out there, nailed the posing routine, which I got to tell you, and 222 00:10:44,681 --> 00:10:47,952 everybody probably feels the same way when you get that individual routine done. 223 00:10:47,952 --> 00:10:51,617 It, just feels like a huge sigh of relief. 224 00:10:51,617 --> 00:10:54,777 Like we, you know, we did it initially, did group. 225 00:10:54,897 --> 00:10:56,597 Yes, we did group comparisons. 226 00:10:56,597 --> 00:10:58,597 was a group of nine and then a group of eight. 227 00:10:58,597 --> 00:11:03,057 And so we did that run around backstage and then individual comparisons. 228 00:11:03,057 --> 00:11:04,217 And there was 17 of us. 229 00:11:04,217 --> 00:11:09,197 So that kind of gave me time to like, my, like my breathing under control and you 230 00:11:09,197 --> 00:11:11,497 know, nailed the routine, which felt good. 231 00:11:11,737 --> 00:11:14,877 Um, and then they lined us up and it was two big, huge, long lines. 232 00:11:14,877 --> 00:11:15,897 And I'm like, 233 00:11:16,336 --> 00:11:18,006 please just let me be in first call out. 234 00:11:18,006 --> 00:11:19,477 And I was the second number they called. 235 00:11:19,477 --> 00:11:21,937 So that was really exciting. 236 00:11:22,278 --> 00:11:24,608 And then I was moved to the third place spot. 237 00:11:24,608 --> 00:11:28,950 And I knew, like, you kind of don't know where you are on stage, but I knew where 238 00:11:28,950 --> 00:11:32,631 the box was and I started in it and moved over a spot. 239 00:11:32,631 --> 00:11:36,602 So I was like, I don't know, am I second or am third or am fourth? 240 00:11:36,642 --> 00:11:38,092 I'm in first call out, it's all I know. 241 00:11:38,092 --> 00:11:39,470 And so. 242 00:11:39,470 --> 00:11:42,122 And sometimes they do move you around because they want to, they just like look 243 00:11:42,122 --> 00:11:44,714 at like people next to each other and sometimes they might move you again. 244 00:11:44,714 --> 00:11:47,566 So even though you feel like you're in second or third, you could be in fifth or 245 00:11:47,566 --> 00:11:51,079 sixth or you could be in like the spot where fifth and sixth are, but really your 246 00:11:51,079 --> 00:11:51,629 second, third. 247 00:11:51,629 --> 00:11:53,361 Like sometimes they'll do that. 248 00:11:53,361 --> 00:11:57,564 And I, it's like, it can throw you off cause you're like, okay, well I don't, you 249 00:11:57,564 --> 00:12:00,886 know, I kind of feel defeated in that millisecond moment, but it's like, you 250 00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:02,497 can't feel that way. 251 00:12:02,497 --> 00:12:03,708 Cause you don't really know. 252 00:12:03,708 --> 00:12:05,547 It's not. 253 00:12:05,547 --> 00:12:09,110 the way the scoring works, like, you know, the head judge doesn't score, they throw 254 00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:12,523 out the high and the low, and then you're left with, you know, everybody else. 255 00:12:12,523 --> 00:12:18,438 So I was like, that looks like where I am, but also I think it was like an even 256 00:12:18,438 --> 00:12:18,799 number. 257 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:19,800 I think there was eight girls. 258 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,414 So then it was kind of like, you know, the two girls were splitting center, first and 259 00:12:24,414 --> 00:12:26,886 second, and I wasn't splitting with either of them. 260 00:12:26,886 --> 00:12:27,626 So. 261 00:12:28,311 --> 00:12:33,384 And I knew Koa was going to win because she brought it and she's just got an 262 00:12:33,384 --> 00:12:37,878 incredible package and she was flawless. 263 00:12:37,878 --> 00:12:43,541 So I get off stage and all of us in First Call are jumping up and down like, yeah, 264 00:12:43,541 --> 00:12:44,922 we got First Call out. 265 00:12:44,922 --> 00:12:46,183 So cool, right? 266 00:12:46,183 --> 00:12:47,984 Everybody's so happy for everybody. 267 00:12:47,984 --> 00:12:52,117 And then I go backstage and grab my stuff and I can see my husband peeking through 268 00:12:52,117 --> 00:12:52,868 the curtain. 269 00:12:52,868 --> 00:12:54,339 He's so scared I'm going to be upset. 270 00:12:54,339 --> 00:12:55,529 He's like, 271 00:12:56,304 --> 00:12:57,524 You know, he knows I'm coming out soon. 272 00:12:57,524 --> 00:12:58,244 Like, she upset? 273 00:12:58,244 --> 00:13:03,004 Is she like, you know, because I, I went there to, know, to try to win and get my 274 00:13:03,004 --> 00:13:05,244 pro card, but I was, I'm okay. 275 00:13:05,244 --> 00:13:08,244 Like, and I called you first and I told you that I'm okay. 276 00:13:08,244 --> 00:13:09,804 Like, I'm not sad. 277 00:13:09,804 --> 00:13:12,824 Like, you know, when you look at the competition, I mean, and I think the B 278 00:13:12,824 --> 00:13:14,904 class had like 22 girls, 279 00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:16,540 Every class was so big. 280 00:13:16,540 --> 00:13:18,591 Everybody looked competitive. 281 00:13:18,591 --> 00:13:22,593 you know, Koa and I, when we were talking the other day, just like, you know, 282 00:13:22,593 --> 00:13:26,644 thinking about the people that didn't get first call out, that had won shows and 283 00:13:26,644 --> 00:13:29,385 like that had done well here before. 284 00:13:29,385 --> 00:13:32,957 you know, I can't be sad about third place when there's people who didn't even get a 285 00:13:32,957 --> 00:13:33,357 medal. 286 00:13:33,357 --> 00:13:33,667 Right. 287 00:13:33,667 --> 00:13:37,088 So, you know, it just put it all into perspective. 288 00:13:37,088 --> 00:13:40,069 And obviously my goal was to to win and get my pro card. 289 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:43,171 But, you know, being close doesn't really suck. 290 00:13:43,171 --> 00:13:43,971 So. 291 00:13:44,672 --> 00:13:47,827 And yeah, so finals was fast. 292 00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:49,690 Like, prejudging was hours. 293 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:55,849 Like, I mean, I was done and back in my room probably like by noon or one maybe. 294 00:13:56,551 --> 00:13:59,044 But like all of the open competitors. 295 00:13:59,044 --> 00:14:03,184 yeah, I watched your, I watched the live feed from start to you. 296 00:14:03,184 --> 00:14:07,404 And then once you were done, I like, I had to go, but I think it started at like 297 00:14:07,404 --> 00:14:08,464 nine. 298 00:14:08,464 --> 00:14:12,184 And so it started at 10 and you guys are an hour ahead. 299 00:14:12,184 --> 00:14:15,464 And I watched it up until 1130, like our time. 300 00:14:15,484 --> 00:14:18,164 So, or 11 our time, and then you were done. 301 00:14:18,164 --> 00:14:19,764 So it'd been like noonish. 302 00:14:20,221 --> 00:14:22,921 And it went on the rest of the afternoon. 303 00:14:23,381 --> 00:14:25,041 Finals was supposed to start at 5 p .m. 304 00:14:25,041 --> 00:14:27,041 and they were still doing prejudging. 305 00:14:27,361 --> 00:14:31,281 So I got all ready to go down at five and I was like, I'm not going down. 306 00:14:31,281 --> 00:14:32,561 And wellness was first. 307 00:14:32,561 --> 00:14:35,201 But then at finals, ended up starting, I think they ended up starting the show at 308 00:14:35,201 --> 00:14:38,041 six, like an hour later, the judges just took a quick break. 309 00:14:38,041 --> 00:14:40,841 And then we didn't do any routines at finals. 310 00:14:40,841 --> 00:14:43,618 They just pulled out the top five and then they put. 311 00:14:43,618 --> 00:14:47,189 everybody else on the stage and they all just stepped forward when they said their 312 00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:49,369 name and then exited the stage. 313 00:14:49,369 --> 00:14:54,071 And then we just, they announced us, we wave, we did front pose and wave and then 314 00:14:54,071 --> 00:14:55,291 wait on the side. 315 00:14:55,291 --> 00:14:59,032 And then, you know, we got our placings and I got third, which I was really happy 316 00:14:59,032 --> 00:14:59,832 with. 317 00:14:59,832 --> 00:15:06,103 And then, you know, after the show, Tyler was backstage and there wasn't a huge 318 00:15:06,103 --> 00:15:06,544 lineup. 319 00:15:06,544 --> 00:15:11,895 So like all of us from team Atlas like went and talked to him and I got some 320 00:15:11,895 --> 00:15:13,055 really good 321 00:15:13,112 --> 00:15:17,055 feedback, which was really helpful, just, you know, tighter glutes. 322 00:15:17,055 --> 00:15:20,637 But he said, he said to me, said, you've definitely improved. 323 00:15:20,758 --> 00:15:23,159 And he said, thank you. 324 00:15:23,941 --> 00:15:27,683 So that meant a lot because because I think so, too. 325 00:15:27,683 --> 00:15:30,536 But you always hope like you improved enough that they notice it. 326 00:15:30,536 --> 00:15:31,346 Right. 327 00:15:31,947 --> 00:15:32,577 So, yeah. 328 00:15:32,577 --> 00:15:37,031 So just overall, like it was an incredible experience. 329 00:15:37,031 --> 00:15:39,192 Like I'm so and it was smooth. 330 00:15:39,192 --> 00:15:40,513 Everything about it. 331 00:15:40,513 --> 00:15:41,514 Tan was perfect. 332 00:15:41,514 --> 00:15:42,935 Hair was perfect. 333 00:15:42,935 --> 00:15:46,506 everything like nothing weird happened with my body, like nothing happened weird 334 00:15:46,506 --> 00:15:47,157 with the flight. 335 00:15:47,157 --> 00:15:49,548 Like everything was like really, really smooth. 336 00:15:49,548 --> 00:15:55,070 So overall, like just an amazing experience and, and, and yeah, I got some 337 00:15:55,070 --> 00:15:57,471 great like photos and video from Gilco. 338 00:15:57,471 --> 00:16:04,204 So definitely if you're doing a national show and he's there, spend the money, 339 00:16:04,204 --> 00:16:10,146 honestly spend the money because you're never going to get, so nice. 340 00:16:11,447 --> 00:16:11,953 Yeah. 341 00:16:11,953 --> 00:16:12,672 super sweet. 342 00:16:12,672 --> 00:16:16,793 like they have a, you know, like, like drones going around and stuff. 343 00:16:16,793 --> 00:16:18,234 It's very high tech. 344 00:16:18,234 --> 00:16:19,294 mean, and, and quick. 345 00:16:19,294 --> 00:16:23,175 mean, I competed Friday and I got everything back already. 346 00:16:23,175 --> 00:16:27,286 Like I've done photo shoots where I don't get pictures for like four months. 347 00:16:27,286 --> 00:16:29,796 Like I got everything back already. 348 00:16:29,857 --> 00:16:37,779 So, so yeah, so overall, you know, just have a lot of thoughts about my next move 349 00:16:37,779 --> 00:16:38,779 and, you 350 00:16:39,897 --> 00:16:45,111 goals and trying to get my head in a place where, well, my head's in a good place. 351 00:16:45,111 --> 00:16:50,575 I think I'm just getting tired of the thought of all of it because there was a 352 00:16:50,575 --> 00:16:53,377 long stretch between DC and universe. 353 00:16:53,377 --> 00:16:54,557 Yeah, yeah. 354 00:16:54,557 --> 00:17:00,182 And I think as much as the training and the diet can be exhausting, think it's 355 00:17:00,182 --> 00:17:05,785 just, there's not a minute of each day that I'm not thinking about this. 356 00:17:06,615 --> 00:17:07,139 Yeah. 357 00:17:07,139 --> 00:17:10,622 And that's, but when you're passionate about something, like I'm sure, you know, 358 00:17:10,622 --> 00:17:13,785 anybody that's working towards something that's really important and feels the same 359 00:17:13,785 --> 00:17:17,628 way, like of course I'm present with my, my family and my friends and all that 360 00:17:17,628 --> 00:17:21,331 stuff, but like, this is something that is, you know, each day I'm getting one day 361 00:17:21,331 --> 00:17:25,284 closer, you know, I'm competing again next, next Saturday at masters nationals. 362 00:17:25,284 --> 00:17:28,427 And, and I think that part of it, I'm ready for a little bit of a break from of 363 00:17:28,427 --> 00:17:33,561 just kind of like, you know, thinking about executing all of this all over 364 00:17:33,561 --> 00:17:34,441 again. 365 00:17:34,678 --> 00:17:40,325 It's a tall order to get everything to come together perfectly and to feel good 366 00:17:40,325 --> 00:17:45,630 and not, mean, we're human beings, like we can make mistakes, like our bodies can, 367 00:17:45,771 --> 00:17:47,954 you know, just get tired. 368 00:17:47,954 --> 00:17:52,219 And so it's that part is kind of like, I'm ready just for like, be able to breathe 369 00:17:52,219 --> 00:17:55,572 and, you know, but then sad to think about it being done. 370 00:17:56,106 --> 00:17:56,906 yeah. 371 00:17:56,906 --> 00:17:59,188 And it's hard to explain to people. 372 00:17:59,188 --> 00:18:02,089 Like it's hard to explain to family because it's not that you're complaining. 373 00:18:02,089 --> 00:18:05,872 It's not that you're like, I'm just really like mentally tired. 374 00:18:05,872 --> 00:18:07,242 But people will think it's complaining. 375 00:18:07,242 --> 00:18:11,175 And like it was, it's interesting because like a really great way to explain it is 376 00:18:11,175 --> 00:18:15,237 like I was at the gym this morning talking to one of our, one of my like gym buddies 377 00:18:15,237 --> 00:18:16,988 and she, I've competed alongside her. 378 00:18:16,988 --> 00:18:18,539 She's a figure competitor. 379 00:18:18,539 --> 00:18:20,420 And I was talking 380 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,540 you still prep your food. 381 00:18:22,540 --> 00:18:24,380 It's nothing to do with eating the food. 382 00:18:24,380 --> 00:18:26,440 It's nothing to do with the gym time. 383 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,560 It's this mental load that, it's the constant thinking about it. 384 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,640 So like last night, I watched a movie with my husband and we're sitting there and 385 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,220 we're like, oh, well, you know, it's only 8 .30 and now like, I'm not thinking 386 00:18:38,220 --> 00:18:39,220 about, oh, do I need to pose? 387 00:18:39,220 --> 00:18:40,200 Do I need to stretch? 388 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,680 And it's not that it's a burden. 389 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,280 I love it. 390 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,840 Like I love doing it, but I don't have to prioritize that right now. 391 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,888 So instead we went for a bike ride. 392 00:18:48,888 --> 00:18:53,789 And it's like, I actually have like energy and the mental, like, you know, kind of 393 00:18:53,789 --> 00:18:54,830 nothing really going on. 394 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:56,230 Like, let's go on a bike ride. 395 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:57,630 It's just different. 396 00:18:57,630 --> 00:18:59,551 Did I still prep all my food? 397 00:18:59,551 --> 00:19:00,571 Did I still go to the gym? 398 00:19:00,571 --> 00:19:01,682 Did I still do all my workouts? 399 00:19:01,682 --> 00:19:05,423 Did everything, you know, it's, it's hard to explain that to people. 400 00:19:05,423 --> 00:19:09,394 It's a, it's a mental wear and tear over time. 401 00:19:09,394 --> 00:19:12,875 When you go into a lifestyle and an off season, it gets that mental wear and tear 402 00:19:12,875 --> 00:19:13,615 is less. 403 00:19:13,615 --> 00:19:15,995 It's not that the work you're putting in is less. 404 00:19:15,995 --> 00:19:17,436 It's the mental 405 00:19:17,936 --> 00:19:20,892 processes less, so you have more energy. 406 00:19:20,892 --> 00:19:22,606 Does that make sense? 407 00:19:22,606 --> 00:19:23,568 I don't know. 408 00:19:23,568 --> 00:19:26,011 I was like deep in thought last night about this. 409 00:19:26,147 --> 00:19:27,887 no, that you, you're spot on. 410 00:19:27,887 --> 00:19:28,738 That's exactly it. 411 00:19:28,738 --> 00:19:34,529 Like it feels like pressure kind of, kind of, but it also, nobody really gives a 412 00:19:34,529 --> 00:19:34,789 shit. 413 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:39,951 Like it's not like, you know, the, the, the fate of the world is relying on my, on 414 00:19:39,951 --> 00:19:40,661 this outcome. 415 00:19:40,661 --> 00:19:46,573 But you know, at this point I've invested so much time into this and I'm so close 416 00:19:46,573 --> 00:19:51,214 and everything's important, you know, water intake, rest, recovery, stretch, 417 00:19:51,214 --> 00:19:52,214 pose. 418 00:19:52,238 --> 00:19:54,198 pack to fly again. 419 00:19:54,198 --> 00:20:01,098 This is my third flying trip to a show and just details and executing all of that and 420 00:20:01,098 --> 00:20:03,638 then showing up and bringing your best. 421 00:20:03,638 --> 00:20:05,798 It is pretty miraculous. 422 00:20:05,798 --> 00:20:11,338 When you think about the girl who won that show, she's the best out of 500 girls and 423 00:20:11,338 --> 00:20:13,938 then all the girls that didn't even qualify. 424 00:20:14,658 --> 00:20:21,932 it's like, while this is something that anybody can participate in, as you 425 00:20:21,932 --> 00:20:24,704 moving forward and your goals move to the next goal. 426 00:20:24,704 --> 00:20:28,006 Like, you your first goal is like, just get out there and do it one time. 427 00:20:28,006 --> 00:20:29,858 Then your goal is to qualify for nationals. 428 00:20:29,858 --> 00:20:32,950 Then your goal is to go to nationals and your goal is to get a pro card. 429 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:37,683 Like the stakes just keep rising and the pressure can really like get to people. 430 00:20:37,683 --> 00:20:42,367 And I think that's probably where people do start to wig out and you know, either 431 00:20:42,367 --> 00:20:45,699 they're, and I feel like I have so much support. 432 00:20:45,699 --> 00:20:49,462 So I think years ago, I probably did get more in my head and 433 00:20:49,462 --> 00:20:51,914 you know, maybe have more tendencies to overeat and stuff. 434 00:20:51,914 --> 00:20:55,506 But now I'm surrounded by like all of these amazing people I've connected with. 435 00:20:55,506 --> 00:21:00,459 have you and you know, like just so many people that I can, I can talk to about the 436 00:21:00,459 --> 00:21:02,661 way that I'm feeling and that, it doesn't feel crazy. 437 00:21:02,661 --> 00:21:06,443 Cause if I was the only one competing and I'm trying to get my neighbors to 438 00:21:06,443 --> 00:21:11,937 understand, you know, that I'm worried about my ham, glute tie in and you know, 439 00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:14,849 all these things, they're like, why does it even matter? 440 00:21:14,849 --> 00:21:18,721 Like, so, so yeah, I think just, just to kind of 441 00:21:18,721 --> 00:21:23,462 You know, just take a breather from thinking about that so much. 442 00:21:23,462 --> 00:21:26,752 And yeah, I mean, I'm still going to be at the gym like the next day and I'm still 443 00:21:26,752 --> 00:21:29,744 going to eat all the same foods, just more of it. 444 00:21:29,744 --> 00:21:34,565 just, you know, but then I'm sad to, I'm sad to think about it being done too, 445 00:21:34,565 --> 00:21:40,256 because, you know, you wake up and take photos and you're like, wow, like so cool. 446 00:21:40,256 --> 00:21:44,897 Like watching your body change, like even how much my body's changed since Sunday, 447 00:21:44,897 --> 00:21:48,768 cause Sunday morning, like I felt really swollen, but I looked 448 00:21:48,852 --> 00:21:51,014 I was jacked, you know, cause I'm real little. 449 00:21:51,014 --> 00:21:54,016 And so I was so bubbly from all the sodium and everything. 450 00:21:54,016 --> 00:21:58,149 And just to see my body change from Sunday to today, which is Wednesday, like it's 451 00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:59,510 like, this is really neat. 452 00:21:59,510 --> 00:22:02,622 Like it's really cool, but you know, I don't know. 453 00:22:02,622 --> 00:22:05,574 I'm sad that, but you can't keep going forever. 454 00:22:05,574 --> 00:22:09,597 I, and I really can't like masters nationals is July 20th. 455 00:22:09,597 --> 00:22:12,510 And then we leave for our family vacation, July 28th. 456 00:22:12,510 --> 00:22:15,883 So, and I, as much as I'll again, 457 00:22:15,883 --> 00:22:20,734 be able to stay on my reverse and go to the gym and stuff while I'm there, it's 458 00:22:20,734 --> 00:22:25,375 not gonna be the time to be grinding out the last bit of this prep to be able to 459 00:22:25,375 --> 00:22:28,836 get on stage at the end of August at North American. 460 00:22:28,836 --> 00:22:31,557 So it is the end of the road for me this season in two weeks. 461 00:22:31,557 --> 00:22:33,637 So less than two weeks now, week and a half. 462 00:22:33,637 --> 00:22:40,869 So yeah, we're gonna throw the kitchen sink at it and see what happens, but it's 463 00:22:40,869 --> 00:22:43,559 gonna be different judges, it's gonna be different girls. 464 00:22:44,866 --> 00:22:45,715 Is Tyler gonna be there? 465 00:22:45,715 --> 00:22:47,113 I know Sandy's gonna be 466 00:22:47,786 --> 00:22:50,639 Yeah, yeah, they like, usually they judge all these together. 467 00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:54,259 But yeah, she'll be there and. 468 00:22:54,259 --> 00:23:01,214 you think that you're gonna do relative, since the universe show, like your peak 469 00:23:01,214 --> 00:23:05,808 week, your show, everything was really, really smooth, do you think that, or your 470 00:23:05,808 --> 00:23:10,472 plan, I should say, is going to be similar to going into this show? 471 00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:14,829 Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's smart to like change too many things. 472 00:23:14,829 --> 00:23:19,062 so, and that's the other thing you've got to be real careful you don't overthink and 473 00:23:19,062 --> 00:23:21,915 overanalyze because you're ready or you're not. 474 00:23:21,915 --> 00:23:25,988 And some of these little like tricks and stuff that people like try to throw in 475 00:23:25,988 --> 00:23:28,230 there at the last minute, sometimes like will make you look worse. 476 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:33,594 So I'm not gonna do anything dramatically different with my peak week, but for this 477 00:23:33,594 --> 00:23:38,728 week, like just trying to like maybe drop a couple of pounds because 478 00:23:39,561 --> 00:23:44,347 of me being in the A class and you the girls are really itty -bitty like and I'm 479 00:23:44,347 --> 00:23:48,192 really small but there are girls in my class that are four foot eight four foot 480 00:23:48,192 --> 00:23:51,516 nine you know and so they're naturally that their hips are really tiny so just 481 00:23:51,516 --> 00:23:54,479 come in a little bit tighter you can always be tighter but then especially when 482 00:23:54,479 --> 00:23:59,115 I saw like my body in high def in slow motion high def nonetheless 483 00:23:59,115 --> 00:24:00,646 he slowed it down. 484 00:24:02,010 --> 00:24:04,575 That was so, it seriously is so cool. 485 00:24:04,575 --> 00:24:09,627 I'm sitting here just watching you like move in slow -mo. 486 00:24:09,627 --> 00:24:10,837 it, I was like this. 487 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,290 Like, I'm like, okay, okay, it's good. 488 00:24:14,290 --> 00:24:14,981 It's good. 489 00:24:14,981 --> 00:24:17,823 It's so I know it's the former fat girl in me. 490 00:24:17,823 --> 00:24:22,607 Like I think just because I battled my weight for so long and you know, I have 491 00:24:22,607 --> 00:24:25,180 had, you know, just quite a journey with my body. 492 00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:27,522 Like I'm still just kind of like, look, okay. 493 00:24:27,522 --> 00:24:30,634 mean, girl, you got third, but yes, you've looked fine. 494 00:24:30,634 --> 00:24:32,436 Like stop freaking out. 495 00:24:32,436 --> 00:24:35,668 But you know, still you're kind of like you pick yourself apart. 496 00:24:35,668 --> 00:24:36,779 And then I think 497 00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:41,570 I think that's what's hard too is like, you know, you, take the feedback and 498 00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:45,795 you're like, well, I wasn't good enough, but then you're like, well, yeah, like you 499 00:24:45,795 --> 00:24:51,491 should be really happy about that placing, you know, and, and I know that, you 500 00:24:51,497 --> 00:24:55,681 you know, with this sport, though, I don't I was just thinking about that the good 501 00:24:55,681 --> 00:25:00,386 enough like in this sport, we were never good enough. 502 00:25:00,386 --> 00:25:01,367 And that's OK. 503 00:25:01,367 --> 00:25:06,112 That's the that's the part of it, because even when you're first, like you're good 504 00:25:06,112 --> 00:25:07,553 enough to win a show. 505 00:25:07,553 --> 00:25:10,316 But now you have to be better to win 506 00:25:10,316 --> 00:25:12,117 a national show and better to win a pro show. 507 00:25:12,117 --> 00:25:14,059 Like you're never actually good enough. 508 00:25:14,059 --> 00:25:17,261 And it's interesting to think that because in our like, in the regular world, that's 509 00:25:17,261 --> 00:25:17,872 terrible. 510 00:25:17,872 --> 00:25:19,153 That's absolutely terrible. 511 00:25:19,153 --> 00:25:20,564 It's insulting or offensive. 512 00:25:20,564 --> 00:25:23,155 But in this world, it's like, no, it's feedback. 513 00:25:23,155 --> 00:25:24,206 It's criticism. 514 00:25:24,206 --> 00:25:26,507 Like in a good way, it's like critiquing you. 515 00:25:26,507 --> 00:25:28,630 And you're like, how can I be better? 516 00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:31,522 And what's neat is we take that into our normal life. 517 00:25:31,522 --> 00:25:33,823 It's like, okay, well, how can we be better in business? 518 00:25:33,823 --> 00:25:36,946 Yeah, I'm good enough for this moment, but how can I be better? 519 00:25:36,946 --> 00:25:37,794 And that's 520 00:25:37,794 --> 00:25:40,328 something great that people take away from this sport. 521 00:25:40,328 --> 00:25:43,492 So I was just thinking that when you said, know, it's. 522 00:25:45,015 --> 00:25:45,418 Mm hmm. 523 00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:49,700 was on and that was something that she said, like, you have to remove the emotion 524 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:55,382 from the feedback, which is really hard because as a woman, like our looks and all 525 00:25:55,382 --> 00:25:57,884 those things are things that we can be quite sensitive about. 526 00:25:57,884 --> 00:26:00,315 And so you're basically like, how did I look? 527 00:26:00,315 --> 00:26:04,307 And then you're going to have somebody tell you the things that are wrong with 528 00:26:04,307 --> 00:26:04,814 you. 529 00:26:04,814 --> 00:26:05,794 Mm -hmm. 530 00:26:06,596 --> 00:26:07,876 That's what we signed up for. 531 00:26:07,876 --> 00:26:09,017 Like there's nothing wrong with that. 532 00:26:09,017 --> 00:26:10,368 That is literally the sport. 533 00:26:10,368 --> 00:26:13,310 It's body, your body is on display, right? 534 00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:18,614 Like you're not judged on how many hours you spent doing the things that you do and 535 00:26:18,614 --> 00:26:21,676 all the adverse you had to overcome and all the kids you had to take care of and 536 00:26:21,676 --> 00:26:25,769 all the shit that went on in your life before you, none of that matters. 537 00:26:25,769 --> 00:26:29,151 This is all they have to go off of and that's what we signed up for. 538 00:26:29,151 --> 00:26:34,575 So I think it does take a really strong person to not be like, take that feedback 539 00:26:34,575 --> 00:26:35,211 and feel 540 00:26:35,211 --> 00:26:36,471 really bad about it. 541 00:26:36,471 --> 00:26:40,231 And then, you know, of course there's millions of photos taken of you. 542 00:26:40,231 --> 00:26:44,891 Like there's some photos in the reel that like Gilco also sent like 25 photos and 543 00:26:44,891 --> 00:26:46,491 some of them my tummy's not sucked in. 544 00:26:46,491 --> 00:26:48,851 I'm in transition and my glutes dropped and whatever. 545 00:26:48,851 --> 00:26:52,311 And I'm like, okay, that's a, that's a little shot of a camera. 546 00:26:52,311 --> 00:26:56,371 It doesn't mean, you know, I mean, who doesn't have a photo that, you know, isn't 547 00:26:56,371 --> 00:26:57,991 the most flattering angle, right? 548 00:26:57,991 --> 00:27:00,951 But, and the judges are seeing you in 549 00:27:01,151 --> 00:27:02,832 in your front post, but yeah, they see it all. 550 00:27:02,832 --> 00:27:03,893 see every transition. 551 00:27:03,893 --> 00:27:07,825 You know, they're obviously not freezing on you in transition, but so yeah, a lot 552 00:27:07,825 --> 00:27:09,746 of that can really make noise in your head. 553 00:27:09,746 --> 00:27:12,498 So I think that's kind of what the first couple of days back were like for me, just 554 00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:16,540 kind of sorting through some of that and being like, get over it and then, you 555 00:27:16,540 --> 00:27:22,353 know, move forward and, and not go too far with the feedback and try to come in like, 556 00:27:22,353 --> 00:27:23,214 you know, a stick. 557 00:27:23,214 --> 00:27:23,924 did that years ago. 558 00:27:23,924 --> 00:27:27,716 had three weeks in between universe and masters nationals. 559 00:27:27,756 --> 00:27:32,467 a couple years ago and I mean, I ran my body into the ground and I showed up with 560 00:27:32,467 --> 00:27:38,159 like very skinny stick legs and you know, and I landed up getting second that year. 561 00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:41,340 So it was not the worst thing, but I also didn't feel great. 562 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:43,381 You know, I didn't feel confident. 563 00:27:43,381 --> 00:27:44,080 didn't enjoy it. 564 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,191 I was ready to be done. 565 00:27:45,191 --> 00:27:46,472 You don't feel that way this time. 566 00:27:46,472 --> 00:27:52,384 Like I'm actually sad thinking about it being done because I've had so much fun, 567 00:27:52,384 --> 00:27:54,084 but I also know 568 00:27:54,378 --> 00:27:58,829 with our podcast and then with all of our clients competing and other things that 569 00:27:58,829 --> 00:28:01,210 now I have time to do other things. 570 00:28:01,210 --> 00:28:05,171 So that opens the door for other opportunities in the industry that aren't 571 00:28:05,171 --> 00:28:06,471 just competing. 572 00:28:06,471 --> 00:28:08,732 So I'm excited about those possibilities. 573 00:28:08,732 --> 00:28:13,953 And then it just depends what happens at Masters Nationals, what my next steps are. 574 00:28:13,953 --> 00:28:19,214 There's two different paths, very, very different paths as far as what that looks 575 00:28:19,214 --> 00:28:20,114 like. 576 00:28:20,114 --> 00:28:21,265 So we'll just see. 577 00:28:21,265 --> 00:28:22,453 Obviously the goal would be. 578 00:28:22,453 --> 00:28:23,824 to win and get my pro card. 579 00:28:23,824 --> 00:28:29,066 But you know, I'm also prepared for the girl who got second to show up and bring 580 00:28:29,066 --> 00:28:30,367 it, which who doesn't? 581 00:28:30,367 --> 00:28:31,267 Everybody brings it. 582 00:28:31,267 --> 00:28:36,310 Like nobody's gonna show up and like have eaten a bunch of Cheetos every day for the 583 00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:36,890 next two weeks. 584 00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:38,550 Everybody's gonna bring their best. 585 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:39,057 So. 586 00:28:39,057 --> 00:28:39,657 don't know. 587 00:28:39,657 --> 00:28:43,119 That's what's crazy is you don't, God, you don't know. 588 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,202 Sometimes, like you said, it gets in people's heads. 589 00:28:46,202 --> 00:28:51,455 not that girl that came, I don't know, obviously, the show scenario, but just in 590 00:28:51,455 --> 00:28:52,636 general. 591 00:28:52,636 --> 00:28:54,978 The girl that came in second or the girl that won overall. 592 00:28:54,978 --> 00:28:57,910 I've seen it so much being an expediter. 593 00:28:57,910 --> 00:29:03,063 I've seen girls that have taken large shows, won an overall in large shows and 594 00:29:03,063 --> 00:29:06,475 now doesn't even place in their open classes. 595 00:29:07,098 --> 00:29:10,340 crazy what you can do with time that you're given. 596 00:29:10,340 --> 00:29:15,703 Like you can either push yourself and challenge yourself and get yourself to the 597 00:29:15,703 --> 00:29:22,077 next show, or you can sabotage yourself and just mentally be like, it's okay to 598 00:29:22,077 --> 00:29:25,769 have a bite of Cheetos and then a bag of Cheetos and a bag of cookies and this and 599 00:29:25,769 --> 00:29:27,240 that, and then you're just blown. 600 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:34,444 like why spend thousands of dollars going to a pro qualifying show? 601 00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:40,093 I feel like, I don't know, guess I feel like at this, at this level, I don't know 602 00:29:40,093 --> 00:29:45,926 that anybody really, anybody who's competing so hard for the win. 603 00:29:45,926 --> 00:29:48,678 don't think that those things happen. 604 00:29:48,678 --> 00:29:52,760 mean, of course we're all human beings, but I think like, you know, I think the 605 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,472 stakes are pretty high and it's a huge investment of time and money. 606 00:29:56,472 --> 00:30:00,945 so, you know, I think the only thing that I'll say what's interesting about this 607 00:30:00,945 --> 00:30:02,955 sport and we've seen it at the pro level, 608 00:30:03,573 --> 00:30:09,986 You can have two girls like on one Saturday compete and the next week the 609 00:30:09,986 --> 00:30:13,138 placing looks like this and they look exactly the same. 610 00:30:13,138 --> 00:30:16,280 And then the judges will be different. 611 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,841 The other competitors will be different. 612 00:30:18,841 --> 00:30:22,473 And nothing's different, but it's just that day they were one and two, the next 613 00:30:22,473 --> 00:30:27,245 week they were two and one because when it's so close, it's like tiny, tiny little 614 00:30:27,245 --> 00:30:28,545 things, right? 615 00:30:29,546 --> 00:30:32,498 So, and it is a sport of like subjectivity. 616 00:30:32,498 --> 00:30:33,260 So, 617 00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:38,960 the panel that is looking at you, you know, they're just looking at you based on 618 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,460 kind of what, the way they judge. 619 00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:45,520 So, yeah, nothing is guaranteed and, you know, I feel good about it. 620 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,220 And I'm also like, I'm aware there's people which are gonna be showing up that 621 00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:51,140 I haven't competed against this year. 622 00:30:51,140 --> 00:30:52,840 Also the age splits are different. 623 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,840 So there's 40 to 45, 45 to 50. 624 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,360 But I would say most people do more than one class. 625 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,700 I feel like I'm the only person who just does one. 626 00:31:02,337 --> 00:31:04,479 I just can't be bothered. 627 00:31:05,763 --> 00:31:06,422 Yes. 628 00:31:06,422 --> 00:31:08,146 like you were talking about how it's just like different. 629 00:31:08,146 --> 00:31:09,749 But everybody is different. 630 00:31:09,749 --> 00:31:13,615 So, I mean, some people wanna do that and have like try to get as best as they can. 631 00:31:13,615 --> 00:31:14,466 Yeah. 632 00:31:14,576 --> 00:31:22,376 also think what would hurt me is, you if I go out in 40 and I do my comparison round 633 00:31:22,376 --> 00:31:23,876 and then I get to do my routine. 634 00:31:23,876 --> 00:31:26,896 And then when I go out in 35, I've already done my routine. 635 00:31:26,896 --> 00:31:29,556 I just had the comparison round to get noticed. 636 00:31:29,556 --> 00:31:34,196 And as the ages tend to go down, the classes get bigger and bigger. 637 00:31:34,196 --> 00:31:37,516 So I'm just kind of like, didn't, wouldn't get to do my routine again to show them 638 00:31:37,516 --> 00:31:38,756 what I've got. 639 00:31:39,403 --> 00:31:43,363 and they have to try to go off of like what they saw two hours before. 640 00:31:43,903 --> 00:31:45,663 it's just, and it's a lot. 641 00:31:45,663 --> 00:31:48,043 I just throw everything into that one class. 642 00:31:48,043 --> 00:31:49,243 It's really, really important. 643 00:31:49,243 --> 00:31:52,563 And, you know, so I don't do the other classes, but I have seen where girls have 644 00:31:52,563 --> 00:31:58,123 done, you know, the 45, the 40, you know, the 35, all A classes. 645 00:31:58,163 --> 00:32:02,283 So, but then I've also seen where people stayed out of the 40, just at the 45. 646 00:32:02,283 --> 00:32:05,483 So, so I don't, and I don't know what everyone's age is because we're 40 to 49 647 00:32:05,483 --> 00:32:06,343 at universe. 648 00:32:06,343 --> 00:32:08,683 So I don't know, but also, you know, 649 00:32:08,871 --> 00:32:13,184 I want everybody to have a great experience and bring it and I want to 650 00:32:13,184 --> 00:32:16,146 bring my best and I want everyone to bring their best and then the best of the best 651 00:32:16,146 --> 00:32:16,726 wins, right? 652 00:32:16,726 --> 00:32:19,568 So yeah, I don't know. 653 00:32:19,568 --> 00:32:21,649 I'm just, just gotta get there. 654 00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:28,164 I leave next Thursday, so I have like eight more days here before we just turn 655 00:32:28,164 --> 00:32:28,944 around and do it again. 656 00:32:28,944 --> 00:32:31,966 Like I literally just put everything in the washer and dryer and then put it all 657 00:32:31,966 --> 00:32:32,927 back in my suitcase. 658 00:32:32,927 --> 00:32:37,689 Like all the sheets and the tanning clothes and I just kept everything packed. 659 00:32:38,494 --> 00:32:39,416 Yeah. 660 00:32:40,685 --> 00:32:42,012 It is, I think. 661 00:32:42,012 --> 00:32:46,024 questions that I think would be very helpful for some people listening. 662 00:32:46,024 --> 00:32:49,196 Rather, you know, we're already what, halfway through the year, so a lot of 663 00:32:49,196 --> 00:32:50,627 shows have already been going on. 664 00:32:50,627 --> 00:32:53,959 There's a lot of women that are qualified now to go to a pro -qualifying show, and 665 00:32:53,959 --> 00:32:58,522 they're either new to going to a pro -qualifying show stage, or they're, you 666 00:32:58,522 --> 00:32:59,953 know, thinking about going. 667 00:32:59,953 --> 00:33:05,095 So what is one thing that you think is so important 668 00:33:05,946 --> 00:33:09,416 getting ready to go to a bigger stage. 669 00:33:11,528 --> 00:33:12,142 Well, I 670 00:33:12,142 --> 00:33:15,787 If you can name like one thing, I'm gonna challenge you. 671 00:33:15,787 --> 00:33:18,239 What do you think's the most important thing? 672 00:33:18,868 --> 00:33:19,971 presentation. 673 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:31,362 You cannot show up at a higher level show, whether it's a regional show that is just 674 00:33:31,362 --> 00:33:35,203 known to be prestigious. 675 00:33:35,803 --> 00:33:38,994 There's so many, so I hate to even rattle off names, because I don't want to leave 676 00:33:38,994 --> 00:33:39,864 anybody out. 677 00:33:39,864 --> 00:33:47,146 for example, Clash and the NorCal, DC, these big regional shows where you get 678 00:33:51,561 --> 00:33:57,575 you know, like top talent, like going there, like bring your, bring the best, 679 00:33:57,575 --> 00:34:03,829 the, the posing on point suit on point makeup on point, like your presentation is 680 00:34:03,829 --> 00:34:05,701 such a huge piece of your score. 681 00:34:05,701 --> 00:34:09,843 So I think that that is a really important thing that needs to like, you need to pay 682 00:34:09,843 --> 00:34:15,687 attention to like going out on a national stage and you know, not knowing your poses 683 00:34:15,687 --> 00:34:18,639 and you know, your hair isn't done. 684 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,417 Like those are just like, those are just mistakes that like you 685 00:34:21,417 --> 00:34:22,188 you don't want to make. 686 00:34:22,188 --> 00:34:23,679 And that's really, really important. 687 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:29,334 so I don't know that is kind of what you, what you were asking, but I think those 688 00:34:29,334 --> 00:34:33,198 are important details, but I think that just comes with like experience and then 689 00:34:33,198 --> 00:34:37,522 also having an experienced coach that can like make sure that you do look polished 690 00:34:37,522 --> 00:34:41,966 because, cause it's to stand out on the national stage, you have to have the right 691 00:34:41,966 --> 00:34:42,737 amount of conditioning. 692 00:34:42,737 --> 00:34:46,230 Like that's what gets you into first call outs, like having the right amount of 693 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:47,311 conditioning, 694 00:34:47,327 --> 00:34:51,968 What will keep you out of first call outs is those things that I mentioned, you 695 00:34:51,968 --> 00:34:53,809 know, bad tan. 696 00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:58,700 Yeah, like bad posing, you know, doing goofy stuff that they don't want to see, 697 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:01,821 like crossing your suit at the neck or wearing like orange bracelets. 698 00:35:01,821 --> 00:35:06,272 Like that's just not, you know, they don't want, they don't want to see that. 699 00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:08,372 They want to see, you know, that level. 700 00:35:08,372 --> 00:35:14,454 So those are just things to consider if you're moving from like smaller show to 701 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:18,932 know a bigger stage or a national stage that presentation piece and honestly I'm 702 00:35:18,932 --> 00:35:23,665 not saying you have to like drop a million dollars on it like we're so fortunate and 703 00:35:23,665 --> 00:35:27,327 that all of this stuff is like online we have perfect examples of what to do just 704 00:35:27,327 --> 00:35:30,508 look at any pro show and be like okay that's the bracelet okay this is I'm gonna 705 00:35:30,508 --> 00:35:33,861 have my hair done okay this is how I'm gonna pose like you definitely want to 706 00:35:33,861 --> 00:35:38,413 hire a posing coach but you could probably if you spend the time you know and watch 707 00:35:38,413 --> 00:35:42,205 all the videos and rehearse until your feet fall off you could really pick all 708 00:35:42,205 --> 00:35:43,796 this stuff up on your own but 709 00:35:43,796 --> 00:35:45,620 That stuff is really, really important. 710 00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:49,068 Yeah, there is. 711 00:35:49,068 --> 00:35:53,210 now, like it's not like, and we're not talking about going on social media and 712 00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:55,971 like comparing yourself to like photos on social media. 713 00:35:55,971 --> 00:36:01,803 We're talking about like go to npcnewsonline .com, go on YouTube and see 714 00:36:01,803 --> 00:36:06,175 like the posing videos, go look at, you know, Miss Olympia, go look at, you know, 715 00:36:06,175 --> 00:36:10,227 the last show that was like a big show, like DC Clash, like different shows like 716 00:36:10,227 --> 00:36:10,447 that. 717 00:36:10,447 --> 00:36:12,856 Go look at huge shows and see 718 00:36:12,856 --> 00:36:14,497 Okay, what are they doing? 719 00:36:14,497 --> 00:36:15,939 And like, what do I need to do? 720 00:36:15,939 --> 00:36:16,848 And it's like that. 721 00:36:16,848 --> 00:36:19,892 It's like, hey, you book your hair and makeup and you say, want my hair and 722 00:36:19,892 --> 00:36:20,883 makeup to look like this. 723 00:36:20,883 --> 00:36:21,663 There you go. 724 00:36:21,663 --> 00:36:22,824 These are the jewelry pieces. 725 00:36:22,824 --> 00:36:23,995 I'm gonna order those stories. 726 00:36:23,995 --> 00:36:28,689 Like don't try to do something off the wall because you think that it's going to 727 00:36:28,689 --> 00:36:29,310 look good. 728 00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:32,642 At the end of the day, it's not what you think looks good. 729 00:36:32,642 --> 00:36:37,596 It's what the judges are gonna think looks good and what's winning that year. 730 00:36:38,612 --> 00:36:39,273 Right. 731 00:36:39,273 --> 00:36:40,924 Yeah, I think that's well. 732 00:36:40,924 --> 00:36:45,558 And if you think too, at these pro shows or the pro qualifiers, like they're 733 00:36:45,558 --> 00:36:48,960 selecting like pros to represent the IFBB. 734 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,291 Right. 735 00:36:49,291 --> 00:36:53,394 So, you know, while it's great to stand out, like you don't want to stand out for 736 00:36:53,394 --> 00:36:54,784 the wrong reasons. 737 00:36:54,784 --> 00:36:58,708 And, you know, you just, you know, you know what the standard is. 738 00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:00,690 It's not a secret. 739 00:37:01,291 --> 00:37:05,344 So I think, yeah, I think pouring time into your presentation is really 740 00:37:05,344 --> 00:37:05,844 important. 741 00:37:05,844 --> 00:37:08,166 Obviously, you have to have, you know, 742 00:37:08,166 --> 00:37:11,199 shape and the condition and the muscularity all that stuff that's you know 743 00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:15,173 part of the division but I definitely see people that you know just don't think 744 00:37:15,173 --> 00:37:19,858 that's as important and it and it really is like the the beauty piece of it and it 745 00:37:19,858 --> 00:37:24,983 is in all the women's divisions in figure in women's physique and wellness like you 746 00:37:24,983 --> 00:37:30,208 know that is that's the girly part of it so you know and it's it's quite nice to 747 00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:32,380 have your hair and makeup done like it 748 00:37:32,426 --> 00:37:37,921 You know, I did my own for DC and having mine done for, universe was just like, I 749 00:37:37,921 --> 00:37:38,912 didn't expend any energy. 750 00:37:38,912 --> 00:37:39,592 Just sat there. 751 00:37:39,592 --> 00:37:40,883 It was like so wonderful. 752 00:37:40,883 --> 00:37:42,034 And they did such a great job. 753 00:37:42,034 --> 00:37:43,805 Like I didn't even have to touch it up. 754 00:37:44,506 --> 00:37:44,857 Yeah. 755 00:37:44,857 --> 00:37:45,040 It 756 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,310 a great job because you've done them before. 757 00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:48,081 You've used them before and you've seen their work. 758 00:37:48,081 --> 00:37:52,183 So like that's also what's really nice is you use like a reputable like company to 759 00:37:52,183 --> 00:37:53,513 be able to do that. 760 00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:57,754 So it is it is well at your D. 761 00:37:57,754 --> 00:38:01,756 So yeah, rinse and go again. 762 00:38:01,977 --> 00:38:03,937 No, I was just going to. 763 00:38:04,558 --> 00:38:09,700 I was going to say at your DC show, what what do you think? 764 00:38:10,828 --> 00:38:13,132 I feel like I already know the answer to this though. 765 00:38:13,132 --> 00:38:13,682 I don't know. 766 00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:14,764 I feel like the answer is obvious. 767 00:38:14,764 --> 00:38:17,398 I was gonna say, what do you think's the most memorable moment? 768 00:38:17,398 --> 00:38:21,964 And I wanna say it was probably when you got the second number called for a top 769 00:38:21,964 --> 00:38:22,885 five. 770 00:38:23,547 --> 00:38:25,048 But is that the answer? 771 00:38:25,229 --> 00:38:27,403 What do you, was that the? 772 00:38:27,403 --> 00:38:33,623 definitely like, because I think I was in my head a bit after DC because I was like, 773 00:38:33,623 --> 00:38:35,103 well, I just got fourth. 774 00:38:35,203 --> 00:38:36,803 So like, should I even go to nationals? 775 00:38:36,803 --> 00:38:40,602 Like I even had like a call with James and I was like, should I even bother? 776 00:38:40,602 --> 00:38:42,663 Like maybe I need more time. 777 00:38:42,663 --> 00:38:43,703 And he's like, what are you talking about? 778 00:38:43,703 --> 00:38:44,403 That's crazy. 779 00:38:44,403 --> 00:38:48,503 And I'm like, well, I mean, but looking at it, DC had one 40 class. 780 00:38:48,503 --> 00:38:50,863 was all different heights. 781 00:38:50,863 --> 00:38:53,843 And there was a lot of things that, that 782 00:38:53,963 --> 00:38:58,194 was able to perfect, feel like I didn't bring my best to DC. 783 00:38:58,194 --> 00:39:01,605 I felt like I brought my best to universe, but I feel like I'm going to bring even 784 00:39:01,605 --> 00:39:06,956 better in two weeks because of the things that, you know, I've, I've analyzed from 785 00:39:06,956 --> 00:39:07,496 universe. 786 00:39:07,496 --> 00:39:12,687 So yeah, definitely getting in, like getting called for first call at 787 00:39:12,687 --> 00:39:14,978 nationals, like there's just nothing like it. 788 00:39:14,978 --> 00:39:16,128 Like nobody can say that sucks. 789 00:39:16,128 --> 00:39:22,690 That's just an amazing, it's confirmation of like, okay, like I am, I belong like up 790 00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:23,912 here, you know, 791 00:39:23,912 --> 00:39:27,395 So, that was a really cool feeling. 792 00:39:27,395 --> 00:39:30,397 And I don't even think it sucked. 793 00:39:30,538 --> 00:39:32,869 I looked at the video and I'm not smiling. 794 00:39:32,869 --> 00:39:34,801 And I think it's just because I'm battling. 795 00:39:34,801 --> 00:39:39,144 Like, I'm not smiling in the first call out. 796 00:39:39,985 --> 00:39:42,047 I wasn't, and Brian was like, I noticed you weren't smiling. 797 00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:44,368 I think I was just so serious. 798 00:39:44,429 --> 00:39:46,651 I wasn't upset at all. 799 00:39:46,651 --> 00:39:48,236 you know, because I also know... 800 00:39:48,236 --> 00:39:50,916 how the scoring's going and I don't really know where I am on stage. 801 00:39:50,916 --> 00:39:53,556 Oh, it's like a matter of like literally 90 seconds anyways. 802 00:39:53,556 --> 00:39:56,776 You don't have a lot of time to think about anything, but you are really like, 803 00:39:56,776 --> 00:39:58,416 look at me, look at me. 804 00:39:58,416 --> 00:40:00,236 Like you really are trying to make sure. 805 00:40:00,236 --> 00:40:03,856 And I'm also looking over at my coach who's sitting, you know, in the audience, 806 00:40:03,856 --> 00:40:05,936 making sure that I'm, you know, hitting my poses. 807 00:40:05,936 --> 00:40:08,556 Cause he was able to give me cues, like a little sign language. 808 00:40:08,556 --> 00:40:10,656 And so there's a lot going on. 809 00:40:10,656 --> 00:40:15,392 Um, but I wasn't even upset because again, I was just so happy. 810 00:40:15,392 --> 00:40:16,903 to be in that first call out. 811 00:40:16,903 --> 00:40:19,976 Cause it had again, two years since I've been to a national show and I'm looking 812 00:40:19,976 --> 00:40:21,487 around and everybody looks good. 813 00:40:21,487 --> 00:40:24,960 And I'm just like, okay, like this, this feels really good. 814 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:30,815 So no, I did not reach my goal, but in a lot of ways I, I, I reached several other 815 00:40:30,815 --> 00:40:34,979 goals and you know, and I'd said to you the night before, like it's, this is, this 816 00:40:34,979 --> 00:40:36,110 is bigger than a pro card. 817 00:40:36,110 --> 00:40:41,774 This whole thing, you know, it, can't just be about that because then everything that 818 00:40:41,774 --> 00:40:43,904 I've endured over the last like, 819 00:40:43,904 --> 00:40:49,563 you nine months since I started prepping, like all that would just be like, I don't 820 00:40:49,563 --> 00:40:52,717 want to feel like it's for nothing because I didn't like reach that goal, right? 821 00:40:53,419 --> 00:40:57,304 But yeah, I mean, I'll get there one day. 822 00:40:57,956 --> 00:41:03,099 Well, and I feel like you touched on this massive longevity in the sport, because 823 00:41:03,099 --> 00:41:05,220 like you are bikini dinosaur. 824 00:41:06,901 --> 00:41:11,373 But it's not just because you're you're you're longevity in the sport isn't just 825 00:41:11,373 --> 00:41:12,724 because you're a competitor. 826 00:41:12,724 --> 00:41:17,347 And I talked to a lot of girls who are like, I, I see that you do all this stuff 827 00:41:17,347 --> 00:41:18,277 and I want to do it. 828 00:41:18,277 --> 00:41:23,550 And it's like, I feel like when you are in this community and you realize like how 829 00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:27,556 great of people there are in this community, you want to 830 00:41:27,556 --> 00:41:28,156 more. 831 00:41:28,156 --> 00:41:31,628 And you just take these little pieces like, so then you start figuring out like, 832 00:41:31,628 --> 00:41:32,538 yeah, I'm a competitor. 833 00:41:32,538 --> 00:41:33,149 I'm an athlete. 834 00:41:33,149 --> 00:41:34,399 Yes, I want a pro card. 835 00:41:34,399 --> 00:41:36,860 Like I'm going to work my ass off to get that pro card. 836 00:41:36,860 --> 00:41:42,563 And, over the course of that progression, as you like go into other avenues of this 837 00:41:42,563 --> 00:41:47,405 sport and the community of bodybuilding, rather, you're a coach, a podcast host, a 838 00:41:47,405 --> 00:41:52,147 vendor of a supplement company, a fitness model, a broadcaster, whatever it is, like 839 00:41:52,147 --> 00:41:56,470 you start kind of going into these little niches, you learn, you're like, this is 840 00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:57,730 just as it's 841 00:41:57,730 --> 00:42:02,683 Big goal, but it's a small piece of like this puzzle that like is a part is you 842 00:42:02,683 --> 00:42:06,245 like your life and that's it's there's so much other stuff It's like bigger than it, 843 00:42:06,245 --> 00:42:10,758 you know and it's and that's what me I feel like helps us be in the sport for a 844 00:42:10,758 --> 00:42:16,682 length of time because you're right like Staying in the condition to be you know on 845 00:42:16,682 --> 00:42:17,563 stage. 846 00:42:17,563 --> 00:42:21,935 It's not realistic I I had a girl message me I think like a week or so ago as I've 847 00:42:21,935 --> 00:42:25,017 been like reversing and going into my like, you know lifestyle improvement 848 00:42:25,017 --> 00:42:25,867 season 849 00:42:27,616 --> 00:42:31,478 It's about cardio, but it was just about like how much cardio we do when we're kind 850 00:42:31,478 --> 00:42:35,140 of getting into like peak week and going into peak week and getting stage lean and 851 00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:38,731 it's like keeping that leanness and that lower percentage of body fat like we're 852 00:42:38,731 --> 00:42:43,804 not like our bodies don't Want to do that and for us to make our bodies do that 853 00:42:43,804 --> 00:42:48,666 shit's gonna go wrong like over time It may not happen over a day or a week But 854 00:42:48,666 --> 00:42:52,618 shit's gonna start happening to you like whether it's sleep whether it's your brain 855 00:42:52,618 --> 00:42:57,292 whether it's your body recovery Our bodies don't want to be in that massive 856 00:42:57,292 --> 00:43:02,425 Deficit and to be out of it, but still be in the sport There's so much you can do 857 00:43:02,425 --> 00:43:06,618 while you're growing lean muscle tissue while you're learning your craft, right? 858 00:43:06,618 --> 00:43:11,190 You're practicing posing, you know all this stuff and it's just the fact that you 859 00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:14,052 have done that and you're you know, like you said the night before you're like This 860 00:43:14,052 --> 00:43:18,615 is so much bigger than it is like, you know, it just validates you belong there 861 00:43:18,615 --> 00:43:20,856 like you're you know 862 00:43:21,347 --> 00:43:21,877 thank you. 863 00:43:21,877 --> 00:43:23,628 I appreciate that. 864 00:43:25,470 --> 00:43:31,324 I think what like can make it hard is like, if you look at every sport, they 865 00:43:31,324 --> 00:43:32,085 have an off season. 866 00:43:32,085 --> 00:43:34,737 Like the NFL doesn't have games all year. 867 00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:37,979 The NBA, the MLB, right? 868 00:43:37,979 --> 00:43:39,320 They have off seasons. 869 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,623 Bodybuilding happens to start in the beginning of year and go till the end of 870 00:43:42,623 --> 00:43:42,873 the year. 871 00:43:42,873 --> 00:43:45,811 It doesn't mean we need to be in it the entire year. 872 00:43:45,811 --> 00:43:46,211 Right? 873 00:43:46,211 --> 00:43:49,284 So you just have to treat it like you're sort of like you're an athlete, you're in 874 00:43:49,284 --> 00:43:50,585 your in season, you're in your off season. 875 00:43:50,585 --> 00:43:52,156 Every sport has an off season. 876 00:43:52,156 --> 00:43:55,438 It's just that everyone's off season is going to be different timing. 877 00:43:55,438 --> 00:43:55,688 Right. 878 00:43:55,688 --> 00:44:00,372 So if you treat it that way, then, you know, the sense of FOMO or feeling like, 879 00:44:00,372 --> 00:44:02,594 you know, you're not in it because you're not on stage. 880 00:44:02,594 --> 00:44:03,995 Well, you can't be on every stage. 881 00:44:03,995 --> 00:44:05,636 You can't be at every show. 882 00:44:05,636 --> 00:44:07,847 And and it's not about that. 883 00:44:07,847 --> 00:44:11,390 You know, you have to like have a lifestyle 884 00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:12,731 this is just a piece of it. 885 00:44:12,731 --> 00:44:17,904 Like, okay, I train and this is the way I eat and this is how I do all, this is how 886 00:44:17,904 --> 00:44:18,715 I live my life. 887 00:44:18,715 --> 00:44:23,398 And then like, I do these things like, know, a couple of times a year or every 888 00:44:23,398 --> 00:44:24,719 two years or whatever it might be. 889 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,401 So I think that that's what some people kind of like lose sight of that off 890 00:44:28,401 --> 00:44:31,403 seasons are necessary in every sport, you know? 891 00:44:31,904 --> 00:44:35,332 So, yeah, deep thoughts. 892 00:44:35,332 --> 00:44:36,143 you're gonna... 893 00:44:36,143 --> 00:44:38,305 I know, I'm getting deep. 894 00:44:38,787 --> 00:44:41,140 That is a good comparison though, because I never really thought about that. 895 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:43,252 I really haven't. 896 00:44:44,334 --> 00:44:45,234 So I am... 897 00:44:45,234 --> 00:44:50,435 one for like my brain being quite a mosh right 898 00:44:50,435 --> 00:44:57,191 I will say your, your brain fog, you know, has been like absent. 899 00:44:57,191 --> 00:44:59,294 Like you have been really sharp. 900 00:44:59,294 --> 00:44:59,954 There we go. 901 00:44:59,954 --> 00:45:01,065 You have been really sharp. 902 00:45:01,065 --> 00:45:04,438 You have been not as like, I don't know. 903 00:45:04,438 --> 00:45:05,879 What, what'd you do? 904 00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:06,360 Okay. 905 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,442 No, I'm talking about for the podcast. 906 00:45:08,442 --> 00:45:09,422 differently. 907 00:45:09,422 --> 00:45:10,842 Oh yeah, yeah. 908 00:45:10,842 --> 00:45:11,722 Well, it's a good time. 909 00:45:11,722 --> 00:45:16,502 I'm real fresh midday, but catch me like after about 4 p .m. 910 00:45:16,502 --> 00:45:22,462 and it's like, uh, I just walk into rooms and I'm like, what did I come in here 911 00:45:24,749 --> 00:45:29,600 So, but, but yeah, that was a lovely little catch up. 912 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,001 hope that everybody found some value in that for those who I haven't already 913 00:45:34,001 --> 00:45:34,471 talked to. 914 00:45:34,471 --> 00:45:36,552 was telling Mandy at the beginning of episode, I'm like, do we even need to do 915 00:45:36,552 --> 00:45:37,002 this episode? 916 00:45:37,002 --> 00:45:40,803 I feel like I've already talked about this so much, but, but no, I appreciate 917 00:45:40,803 --> 00:45:44,154 everybody's support and just interest in all of this. 918 00:45:44,154 --> 00:45:48,355 And I hope that we kept you company while you were doing your cardio or driving your 919 00:45:48,355 --> 00:45:52,596 kids all over the place or cleaning or whatever it is that you do when you listen 920 00:45:52,596 --> 00:45:53,176 to podcasts. 921 00:45:53,176 --> 00:45:54,648 I always have something. 922 00:45:54,648 --> 00:45:57,801 on like if I'm cooking I'm listening to something or watching something I'm 923 00:45:57,801 --> 00:46:02,895 driving or whatever so I hope we hope you enjoyed this little keep you company 924 00:46:04,962 --> 00:46:08,556 Yeah, and if you guys have any questions that we didn't touch on in this episode 925 00:46:08,556 --> 00:46:12,309 always, know, DM Gillian She'll be more than happy to answer any questions you 926 00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:15,502 have, especially going into a bigger stage, bigger show. 927 00:46:15,502 --> 00:46:16,914 If it's your first time, you're nervous. 928 00:46:16,914 --> 00:46:21,538 If you have any questions, of course, like ask us, you know, leave us a comment, ask 929 00:46:21,538 --> 00:46:24,931 her personally, you know, we're always here for your journey. 930 00:46:24,992 --> 00:46:27,083 And, you know, we look forward to... 931 00:46:27,083 --> 00:46:27,331 Dad. 932 00:46:27,331 --> 00:46:34,487 Pittsburgh, a good luck, my amazing fellow bikini bombshells. 933 00:46:34,487 --> 00:46:37,650 And, I just wish you all good luck. 934 00:46:37,650 --> 00:46:41,912 And then for the rest of the audience that's on their journey or prepping for 935 00:46:41,912 --> 00:46:44,315 shows coming up, you got this. 936 00:46:44,435 --> 00:46:46,077 And I can't wait to hear everybody does. 937 00:46:46,077 --> 00:46:47,908 So just sending lots of love. 938 00:46:47,908 --> 00:46:50,600 Cause I'm so grateful for how many people have supported me. 939 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,823 I just feel just, you know, it blows my mind and I feel just. 940 00:46:55,454 --> 00:46:56,661 loved it and it's 941 00:46:56,661 --> 00:46:57,702 emotional. 942 00:46:59,326 --> 00:47:02,100 Alright guys, alright guys, thanks for listening. 943 00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:03,971 Until next time, bye. 944 00:47:04,448 --> 00:47:04,850 Bye.