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Welcome, everyone, to the DCB Show. We are @DCBeer across

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social media. Mike Stein, what's in your Stein this evening?

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Well, hey, Jake. I'm having, Marlene,

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original Berlinerweisser by Schneeeule,

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Berlin's famous brewery. Very excited to

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see them again at Snallygaster this year,

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broadening our beer perspective all the way up to North Germany in

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Berlin. Brandy, what what are you having?

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Hi, mister Stein and Jake, my fave fellas.

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I drank a Born Bohemian, which, as

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you know, is one of Denizens' flagship beers. It's,

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it's, Pilsner, lager Pilsner with

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za' tops. It's very refreshing, very lovely. And

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then I was so happy to learn as

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I was going through my shrunk or shrank German

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word, full of beer that I had a couple of cans of

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Dynasty's 838 Stout hiding back there.

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So that is what I just finished.

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Yes. Love this stout. Love you, Fabio. Love you, Dynasty.

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So that's that's what I drink tonight. Jake, what's up? I've got

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here, one of the hypiest craft lagers from west of

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Mississippi. It is a Montucky Cold Snack.

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People in the beer biz have been, big upping this

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brand for quite some time now. I would say it's got

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kinda that, like, banana bubble gum, coarse

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yeast, but it's a little bit moreish than Coors Banquet.

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Would I illegally transport it across many states like

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Smokey and the Bandit? I don't know. But, like, could you drink

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3 of them? Yeah. You absolutely could even on a

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weekday when we podcast. Alright.

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Before we get into our action packed super cool guest,

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I believe it's Streetcar 82's 6th anniversary coming up this

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weekend, and we've got a beer share

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at City State where they'll be pouring their take on 3

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Stars Peppercorn Saison on Sunday, 8th. You

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should be there. RSVP, you know where. What else is happening

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at that beer share, guys? It's a big one. Fill us in,

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Brandy. So to be honest, it was kind of random

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and kind of exciting. So the representative from

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Lions Gate Films reached out to DC Beer and asked if

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they could come to our beer share. And I'm like, oh, you guys like beer?

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I love that. But, they're coming to promote

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their new movie, "The Killer's Game," and, they're coming

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giving out swag, movie tickets, and I think

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everyone's getting really jazzed about it. So

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that's kinda cool. It's gonna be, a very unique

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beer share, but we're gonna have the most amazing fun and get some cool

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movie swag from it. So I'm jazzed about it, and we get

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Peppercorn Saison, which is crazy. Who thought that was gonna

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come back? Not me. But here we are, and I'm kind of

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excited about it. And by kind of, I mean very, because I probably still have

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this original 3 Stars poster of Peppercorn Saison hanging

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in my basement. I did not have Peppercorn

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Saison returns in 2024 on

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my 2024 DC Beer bingo card, but here we are.

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Speaking of brewery swag, a good place to go and

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get brewery swag is a festival on Pennsylvania

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Avenue where there are over 170

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breweries pouring. That festival is Snallygaster,

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and we've got Greg Engert of Neighborhood Restaurant Group and,

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of course, Churchkey, Bluejacket, The Sovereign, and many others on

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the show. Welcome back to the show, NRG managing

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partner and beverage director, Greg Engert.

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Greg, what are you drinking this evening? It's funny you

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should ask. I'm actually drinking, Hill House, which is

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our annual Oktoberfest style beer that we make at

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Bluejacket. It's not even on the shelves yet, but I was able to grab

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a pre release can, station grade. Very nice, very nice.

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Are we gonna see any gravity kegs of that around Bluejacket?

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Perhaps at the Oktoberfest coming up? Yeah, exactly. At Oktoberfest,

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I think we're gonna have, like, like, 8 or 10 different gravity

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kegs of different German style beers. So Hill

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House, Pattern Sky, Self Portrait, for

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the company. Yeah, we we typically try to get

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everything into gravity keg for our Oktoberfest

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event, which is awesome. And not to jump any additional

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questions you may have, but this is also the year that we're gonna finally

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see the return of some Franconian gravity kegs from Franconia,

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obviously, showing up. So, not for

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Oktoberfest, but for Snallygaster and other appearances. That should be

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pretty fun. That is excellent news. I know that we talked about this

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last year, and much discussion was focused on, the

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pandemic and supply chains and the

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like. Is that getting somewhat better? It's clearing up? I wish I

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could say yes. I I mean, it probably is. But, honestly, what

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happened was Sebastian Sauer, who I think all of y'all

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know very well from Freigeist, he is one

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of my best friends, and he's a mover and shaker in the

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German beer industry. So he actually he brings in a ton of beer

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from, like, Belgium and you know, he's, like, kind of an importer

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over there, and he moves a lot of beer around. So he knows all the

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major players in Franconia, and he was basically like,

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I can just make this happen for you. And so he

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did via Line Ventures, which, you know, they kinda took over for Shelton

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the kinks on the water. And they're on the water now. They're coming over. We're

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getting beers from Ichorn, Will

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or Ville, and, and and most excitingly, I

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think for me, Knobloch, which is, one of my favorite

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Franconian lager producers. So and we've never had their beers in

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gravity kegs before, so very exciting. I think we're gonna pour

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some at a fit maybe in a bet before Snally, but then we're gonna save

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some personality as well. So, yes, that is all back for

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you this year, Jake. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. The people love to see it.

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And by people, I mean, me walking around drinking

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sub 5.5%, you know, just like 11 Plato,

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Central European lager is, you know, for that Snallygaster, it's

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like hot dogs and mustard. It just goes goes well together. I'm looking forward to

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the swag this year. I'm wearing my Snallygaster hoodie,

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one of my Snallygaster hoodies. So I'm all all about the

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color, and I see that the there's been so many colors,

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incorporated to this year's theme. And last year's very eighties,

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nineties vibes. So I'm curious to see the swag this year

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because I'll probably, Abhi, get a a snally thing. You

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know what, Brandy? I'm so glad you brought that up. It's funny. Like, that's something

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that we don't talk a lot about, and yet

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we spend a disproportionate amount of time

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on. All the swag that we do at Snally is, like, it

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takes us months, like, back and forth, even just to your point, like, coming up

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with, like, the theme for the year. You know, this year

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was very, like, early 80s. I think I went to them, and I was like,

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Let's do, like MTV

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and our our design team is incredible. Chris Mullins and

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Tony LaFalce, they were like, yep, got it. And as you

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know, like, when you work with, like, marketing teams and designers,

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if you can come up with something that they're interested in, it's gonna be amazing.

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And I think that that's kind of what we're always looking for every year. It's

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like, we have a lot of cool ideas, but if you can find something that

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they're pumped about like this, they just jump all

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in. And so we have some really cool swag coming

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out, and and these guys put in so much work. It it's

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really cool every year, to see it happen. I can't

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wait to see it. Are there gonna be a Snally themed umbrellas?

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Because, you know How dare you say that? Hey. You know what?

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Wait. No. We're going to talk about this. This is a sourced object.

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But It is. What what do the Snally gods have

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in store for us? Because, Greg, let me tell you. I I've been going to

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Snally since the days of Union Market parking lot. Yeah. Alright?

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There have been many, many, many, many rainy days, Snallies. There have been

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many sunny, beautiful Snally days. Honestly, it hasn't

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affected my happiness at Snally. I had

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a happy Snally time no matter what the weather.

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But I'm just curious, like, if people are, like, betting. You're like,

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this would be the thing to bet on. This would be the beer nerd thing

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to gamble on. I could tell you what, you know, it's it's so

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funny you you bring this up. And I I think it's really something interesting to

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talk about. So we we just sold out, VIP

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today, actually, which is a little later than

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last year, but it's right on target for the previous

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year. Right? So I think to your point, Brandy,

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like, we we didn't obviously host Snally in

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2020. In 2021, we came back with a

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bang. It was amazing. Beautiful weather. 2022,

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beautiful weather. Yes. 23, ticket sales were

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nuts because of those 2 years of beautiful weather. And

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now it slowed a bit because I think people are waiting, which

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totally makes sense to me. And but, you know, it's funny.

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over, we're moving into fall, post Labor Day, our

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tickets sales just start skyrocketing. So

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if it remains looking good and 2 weeks out we have a nice weather

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forecast, it's going to be bananas. If not, we'll see what

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happens, but but also to your point, it's fun either

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way. You know what I mean? It is. I'll tell you, this is a really

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cool, statistic. We track all of the

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entrances. And last year, we were like, it's

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raining. We sold out, you know, 8,000 people. And it was

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percent entrance rate, which was actually

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higher than 2022 even though

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it rained. So that's the cool thing about Snally. It's like, when people, like, they

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buy their tickets ahead of time, like, they come. Yeah. They're coming either way. You

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know what I mean? So I think one of the things that folks like to

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talk about a lot is some of the changes in

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terms of the breweries that happen year in, year out at Snally, and then,

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you know, we had this conversation last year about how do you keep this fresh

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and keep it moving. Who are some of the the new

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breweries this year, even if they took, like, a year or 2 off, who

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you're excited to have or have back? Typically, we

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about 15 10 to 15%, I think, at this point of new brewers,

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just to, like I said, like, to keep it fresh. And and honestly, like, a

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bunch of brewers can't make it, or decline for other

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reasons. We could talk about that as well. So, you know, this year, I think

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we're excited. We have, a lot of brewers returning, but

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we're really excited to have Peter Allen on hand, and actually

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coming to town, which is very cool. CLAG

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out of Sandusky, Ohio. It's a really fun

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brewery that's that's gonna be great. Messoram from,

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Montreal. They're awesome and coming. And,

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you know, some breweries like Blaugies from, Hainaut province,

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Belgium right on smack on the border, they're sending beer, but

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they're also coming. So Pierre-Alex is coming, which is

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really cool as well. So those are some of the ones that, obviously, I already

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mentioned, like those German brewers that we're gonna have, in gravity

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tag, which is super cool. So there's a bunch of really cool new

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ones. I'm super excited to see

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Lisa Allen or, whomever from here, Allen. Yes. Just tell you, I

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think. That's incredible. And it's a great opportunity to

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showcase, hometown talent for DC Brewers. Obviously,

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you know, Ro Gunzel's work at at Bluejacket is is worth

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showcasing as well as some other locals. I'm wondering

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who said they were unable to come, and if

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you don't wanna name names, who would be a dream

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get for you? Yeah. Well, yeah, I think, you know,

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GABF, as long as that's going to continue to go on, I don't know. It's

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like seems like it's changing every year, so it's hard to know,

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exactly how it's going to continue to be. But,

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they're they're back on this weekend, like, every year now. It's

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just 2 years in a row. I thought they were the 1st weekend before,

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but now they're on this weekend. So, you know, beer shot is sending

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beer, but they're not coming. You know, whereas they would have absolutely

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come in the past. We're not getting cohesion this

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year or, like, cerebral based on that. So

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that's unfortunate. So I I can say that, you know, that's one that's one part

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of that. And then some other ones, like, I think probably one of the most

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notable ones that that geeks will notice is that Floodland is not coming after

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coming for, like, 3 or 4 years in a row. You know, I think they're

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just, like, clamping down on travel. They're

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a small brewery, you know, so, unfortunately, they're not gonna be

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around this year. But I'll and I'll say in general, you know, Tim Lu,

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our beer director, and Bruno Simoes, our assistant beer director,

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they they do a lot more, traveling

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and and appearances at Fest than than I do at this

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point, And they really can take credit for Snallygaster

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more than I can at this point. I mean, they're absolutely incredible

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humans and phenomenal people to work with. And they have

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an engine that I've not seen. They just crush it every

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year. You know, I think as they've been going around to other fasts, they've

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noticed that not as many people are traveling,

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which not to be, you know, to dwell

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on the issues or just I wouldn't even say issues, but

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craft beer is just kinda getting back to where it once was.

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it's dead or it's, you know, it's hurting. It's still a

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lot better than it was when I got started 20 years ago, I'll tell you

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that. So, you know, I mean, it's it's slowed down. It's probably slowing down to,

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like, a a reasonable pace. But what

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reasonable means is that, like, yeah, a lot of these brewers can't travel to

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festivals like they used to. So I think because of that, we're

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seeing a little bit of a slowdown. All that said,

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we're seeing more international brewers. I mean, I mentioned Blaugie is like, Yeah, we'll

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come. And, the guys from Track out of Manchester

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are coming. You know, so it's like it's it's it's a weird time

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in craft. I mean, I we can't say that enough on, you know, in general,

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when we see each other, but on this podcast too. It's like it's strange, right?

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Some of these domestic brewers might not travel, but the international

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brewers are looking for reasons to travel, so we're kind of

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making up for one with the other, and, it always seems to come

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together and be amazing no matter what, which is cool. So

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Yeah. It's really weird living in the future. And

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and what and what I mean by that is, not too long ago,

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Sebastian Sauer was at was at Shelter at in the Roost and

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doing Kölsch service. And I was like, oh, I can't make it Sunday. Can I,

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you know, are you gone? You'll probably be gone by the time I can free

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up on Monday. He said, no I'm here, so we went and hung out, we

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had some beers, but it was wonderful to see him just be like,

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yeah we did Kölsch service on a Sunday, it was wonderful, this is as it

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should be. And I was like, oh cool, are you gonna go do that? And

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he was gonna hit some more American cities, but it was funny to hear

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him get some inside baseball talk about, like, oh, we

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should do Kölsch service now, and then next month, September, October, November,

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And he was like, you don't need a reason. We just do Kölsch service. Anytime

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I'm in Cologne in Köln, we just do Kölsch service. That's what happens, and it

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was so wonderful to see his tall,

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beautiful German self in DC and just having a

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great time and drinking in the beer Kölsch service. And I I remember, like, 10

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years ago meeting him at Churchkey on a random I don't know if it was

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a Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday, but the same concept. And and to echo your

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point, Greg, massive massive congrats to you, Bruno,

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Tim, the team for having incredible yeah. You

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know, one Sunday you're doing it at Freigeist, yeah, another Sunday

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it's Halfway Crooks, and another Sunday it's Bierstadt Lagerhaus, like,

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the continual churn of quality events is

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amazing. It's wild. I think it's like, 10 years ago. I think that

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so what you're getting at is that, like, when Sebastian came to town, he wasn't

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doing Kölsch service. Like, he was, like, popping out

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historic German beer styles, you know, like, been crazy weird

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beers that, like, people were flocking to then and nobody would drink now. It's like

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living in the future, living in the past, what is past is

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prologue. It's so cool to see this all evolve. And when

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people try to talk about, like, the death of craft beer and

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stuff, it's like, it's so clearly not because things are still in motion,

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you know, and and that's what's and like, we were talking about, like, Jake was

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saying, we have gravity kegs coming back to Snally for the first time

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since pre-pandemic. That sounds good to me. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think

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nature is healing. That's that's what we wanna hear. Yeah. By the

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way, I take great I take great offense to obscure the obscure German beer

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styles dig because I had a Lyttkenhiner in Baltimore

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last month. So You were the first the first and

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last person to have that beer probably there. Yes. And it was it was not

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even a Sebastian Sauer beer. It was a Mike Earl beer. Shout

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out to Mike Earl over at Silver Branch who's got a Rauch beer on at

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Diamondback right now. If we're going

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to live in the present but

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reminisce about the past, what about our Brewers Brunch?

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Because that used to be my favorite.

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Mallard, are we doing a Brewers Brunch at Mallard? So

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here's the thing. For me to ask, we mentioned Bruno and Tim, but, I

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mean, so many other people to kind of, like, buck

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up on Sunday after this whole all these shenanigans is,

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like, pretty difficult. That's why we've held off from doing it in the

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past. I mean, you know, most brewers start to come to town on Thursday. We

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do some fun stuff all week, and then Thursday it starts, Friday

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it's big, Saturday it's big, Saturday after party. You guys have all been there.

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Sunday, everybody kind of, like, dies for the day, you

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know. So I can pretty much say

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that there's no way we'll do over as much. However, however,

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2 weeks after Snally, we have,

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Churchkey's 15th anniversary event. So I think

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that's gonna be on the 26th. We haven't announced

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it yet, but we're gonna be showcasing a bunch of really cool 15th

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anniversary beers that people have been brewing for us and with us, chilling,

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Sierra Nevada, Oxbow, The Veil, Monkish,

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all that stuff is coming out, and we're gonna have a big party, a blow

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out at church camp on the 26th. So maybe I

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should be talking to these guys about, some kind of

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brunch for that if the brewers are in town. So Yeah. That's a good

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idea. So you mentioned brewers getting in for Snally on

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Thursday. Are any of them going to go at to

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Bluejacket and perhaps do any collaboration beers

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with Bluejacket at Bluejacket? I can say

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yes, but we're still trying to figure that out. It's hard because

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it's a balance of schedules, and Ro

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Gunzel, you mentioned before, our director of brewing ops, his team,

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Colin and Tim, like, it's crazy busy. Like, we're

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kind of coming into fall, so we're hit taking off. We're

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packaging a bunch of beer for Bluejacket or for for Snally.

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But, we typically do do at least 1 to 2

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collabs, and we're working on those now. So we're we are I

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can't say definitively what we're doing, but we are we're trying to, like, pin it

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down. And, we always brew, you know, 2 collabs.

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Like, Thursday, Friday, like you said, we'll do 2 2 beers that

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will come out after. You mentioned Blaugies, and then you also

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mentioned track. I noticed a few more

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Brits coming this year, not just Track, but also Cloudwater,

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more. And the return of I mean,

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you know, we're all OG beer geeks here. Ridgeway, who

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I mean, I've been drinking Ridgeway since, like, the,

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I don't know, mid to late nineties.

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Santa's Butt, all of the Very Bad Elf series,

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do you think they'll be bringing any real ale? Will we see some casks, some

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firkins? Yeah. That's it's we're talking about that right now. I

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mean, I think, possibly. I'm so glad that y'all

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noticed that. Like, we that's something personality. I think sometimes

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when we have to pour less of the

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hundreds of local brewers that there are, obviously, we only do

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175 brewers, so not everybody can be involved. A lot of times

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we're making way for international brewers, right? Because

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we we believe, rightfully, that they do things

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differently, and they can show us things that we can't get from

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brewers locally. Not that they're better or worse, but it's just fun to have

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different perspectives, different flavors, things like that. So, yeah, Ridgeway,

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Cloudwater, more beer, Justin, Hawk, really close

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buddy of mine will be in town for this. But all that said,

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I'm not sure if we're gonna do ferkins just because we all

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know that an hour or 2 in, even with, like, a blanket

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on it, it's not necessarily the best way to

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showcase their beers. And so if they're coming all the way over from the

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UK, we're probably gonna serve stuff in, you know, a container

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and key keg. That said, most of these guys are putting the

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beers in the kegs, naturally

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carbonated like they're filling Firkins anyways. So, like, you know,

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unfiltered, unpasteurized, naturally carbonated.

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So it's close enough, but the pop and circumstance, probably not as

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much. When we do the gravity kegs from Germany, it's just those things

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are light. They're they're airtight. Those they make a lot more sense for a

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fast, and they tend to be smaller. We don't typically get

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pins from the UK. So when we get 13 gallons of

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Firkin beer, it's like the first 5 gallons are gonna be amazing.

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The rest because you guys remember, we used to do that at Snellie all the

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time. And it it it by the end, it wasn't the best

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way to showcase the beer. So I mean, suggestion here,

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you can do Firkin' Friday as the Friday pre

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Snally event with all of the orders and stuff. We do that

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every Friday, every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday

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at Shelter Churchkey, and Bluejacket it anyways. I mean,

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that's what I'll say is like, if you don't get firkins of Ridgeway, IPA,

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ESP at Snally, we'll have it at Churchkey that

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weekend. You know what I mean? So, like, that's that's that's cool at least. I

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was gonna say real quick, thank you for acknowledging the local

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brewers because, you know, we are on the receiving end of a lot

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of comments. And we always say, you know,

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Snally Greg is has the opportunity because of

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his connections and his long time in in the industry to bring in

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all of these breweries that we don't tend to get to have.

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And, you know, it's I do appreciate you

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acknowledging the local breweries who may feel left out. I don't think it's anything

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personal. Oh, it's absolutely not anything personal. It's it's a

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horrible position to be in. Can you imagine? Like like, that's it's

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hard. We do rotate. Like I you know what I mean? Like like Silver Branch

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is back this year after not being in last year. You know what I mean?

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Like, so like we do our best to like try to to to

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help out our friends. But at the same time,

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Snallygaster is not a local beer fest, and never

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is gonna be, never should be. And if it comes down to making

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room for beers like from Franconia you've never had

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before, we have to do that. I I I just that that's that's the

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nature of our fast, and I think most people understand. And I and

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I appreciate you guys are really good yeomans, for

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us and and great, like, people who can spread the word on that.

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But, you know, it's hard. It never feels good. But

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I do think it's cool because we're trying to, like, rotate people back through. Like

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I said, like, Silver Branch is back this year. We love that brewery. We love

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those guys. They make amazing beers. So,

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yeah, we're we're always thinking of it. I think that's the beauty of Snally.

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We we often forget that, you know, it's a fundraiser for

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Arcadia Farms, and that is fundamentally doing good. Because

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outside of that, the beer world is so broad that you have to

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have Franconian gravity fed

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beer, and you have to have Mancusian

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or Manchesterian or beers from

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Ridgeway. I had 2 Ridgeway beers today, and it just reminded me how

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broad the world of beer is. And to your point, Greg, I would much rather

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have the 2 beers that I had at a bottle, the imperial stout and the

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export stout, than I would gallons 6 to

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13 out of a cask. Knowing how good gallons 1

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through 5 are, it just doesn't make sense. Right? And so you have to do

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the logical thing. And I would also add, Brandy,

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not to ever have you be, you know, the the

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punching bag for local brewers or have DCB or us take the blame,

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but anytime we go back to those brewers and go, but have you

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had, the Georgian broil, or have you had a

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Ridgeway export Stout, or have you had and if it's in good faith,

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it's always, yeah. You're right. I would love an an export stout

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from Ridgeway. I would love a Keller beer from Boudinheim. The other

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thing I would say, guys, which I think is, like, really important is

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and I've written about this for craft beer brewing. It's like, where

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are people getting inspiration these days? You know, or

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or just learning how to make a beer correctly. You know what I mean? I

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think that it's harder and harder to find imported beer

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anywhere, but when I think of like, you know, I was just talking

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to, Kelly Young from Velocity Girl because we're actually we're gonna

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brew a beer with him. We're just talking about, you know, if you

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wanna make a Dunkle, what's that based on? You know, like if you just go

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to a random brewery and say like, what what's this Dunkle based on? I mean,

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Internet, technology probably, you know, just like finding stuff, but like, isn't

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drinking Iager Alt Virus Stenkel or Andex? You know what I mean?

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Like, this is the these are the things I wonder about, or when people, like,

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start brewing rock beer. Have you had

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Shlenkerla? Have you had it recently? Because and again, I'm only sharing this

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because I know for a fact it's harder and harder to find any of these

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beers today. So it's like, I I think Snally

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is also a great opportunity for people to taste a bunch of stuff

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that they can't necessarily get all the time. And when you think of like, oh,

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like, I love making lager. Well, if you come to Snally and you drink some

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of these Franconia lagers, it might, like, blow your mind and

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and make you think like, oh, wow. Like, you know, as a brewer or a

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home brewer or like just like a festival goer, like, wow. How do I do

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that? You know? And and that used to be easier to do when there was

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more imports, but there's not as much now. So, like, I think that that's cool.

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And, also, you go to Snally, whether you're pouring or not, the

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opportunity to meet and hang out with so many brewers and and and just,

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like, interact and talk through ideas

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for, you know, beer making but or just process

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or or ingredient sourcing is is incredible.

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I mean, it's just like so if we get 250 brewers in DC

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for a weekend, that's everybody's win, you know, beyond

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just Arcadia, NRG, Snally. It's it's

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a it's an amazing time for everybody to take advantage of. It's only

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everybody's win if you actually listen to what Blaugees does

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and do a proper step mash. Right.

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I will say, in addition to what Greg just said, last year on

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the Snellie stage, I was geeking out the whole time I

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was on stage because we had a star studded

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series of panels. And I was on stage, and I was

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like, geek be are geeking out, because, like, I'm

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so happy that I get to talk to these people, and and not only do

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the brewers get to geek out, but it's it's, like, non

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brewers and beer geeks overall just to get to, like, beyond

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in the same area as them. Like, how cool is that? And, like, shoot the

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shit or drink a beer together. And I I just that that honestly was the

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highlight of my entire snalley last year. Not even just the stage,

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but just having the opportunity to be interviewing

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these people that I admire and look up to in the beer industry.

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It's incredible. So And we're and we're gonna do that again.

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I mean, DC Beer is definitely gonna be back running the podcast each. We're not

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gonna have it as close to a music stage

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as last time, so you can hear it. We're gonna figure it out. But, yeah,

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I mean, it's like it's so cool. And, like, we have some other, you know,

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Steal This Beer podcast. They just reached out to me today. They're like, can we

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come down and work with DC Beer and be on the stage? I'm like, hell

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yeah. Like, we can come up with so many ways to do this and

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keep interviewing amazing people. And then you guys kept, you know,

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releasing these awesome episodes afterwards. I mean, it's cool. I feel like we're

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we're really taking advantage of having all these, cool

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personalities in in the same place. So thank you for that, and

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we can't wait to do that again. Yeah. Thank you so much, Greg. And you

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listeners, take advantage of it too. General mission tickets still available.

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Again, this is for a good cause. Arcadia

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Farms. Greg, as always, thank you so so much.

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Yes, guys. It's great to see you. And thank you, Tim and Bruno. We

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know everyone is out there working hard. We can all sleep with the windows open.

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We can drink marasins and fest beers and even

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pumpkin beers, I guess, if that's your thing. It's not for me. But

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you enjoying it, doesn't hurt me in any way, so fine, I

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guess. What else do you all got going on? English stout,

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Jacob. English stout. I got not one, but 2 export

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styles from JP at Hop Cask and Barrel. Shout out to JP, manager

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of Hop Cask and Barrel, for bringing in the Ridgeway

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goodies. Brandy, what's on your

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agenda? Beer wise or event wise? Because,

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you know, my women's brew Kölschure club, we're doing trivia at, other half,

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the middle the middle Indus of the month, but come back on that one.

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I am looking forward to the return of brown

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ales. I will say someone just

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gifted me a lovely box of Cigar City's

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brown ale. Out of nowhere, I was very

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excited because they know they knew my favorite type of beer was brown ale, and

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they couldn't find any because this is the world that I live in. So

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they went out and bought out, bought a box of cigarsity

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brown ale, so I'm thoroughly enjoying those. So, guys,

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if and women and theys and thems and wes and us,

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make more brown ales for Brandy. Thank you. I'll

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see you at Snally. Hashtag brown ales for Brandy.

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Alright, everybody. We're at DC Beer on the socials. Everybody be well. There's so

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many events coming up this fall.

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Dcbeer.com/events. And of

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course, we're on Patreon. You should come visit. See you at the beer

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share. Tip big and be well, everybody. See you all later.