1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,994 Hey, everybody. Welcome to Poduty and the News for Saturday, October 11, 2 00:00:04,126 --> 00:00:07,560 2025. We got Phil Better joining us on the main 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,960 stage. We've got six great stories. We're going to 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:14,480 Hawaii. MSNBC is betting on live events. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,320 We've got Vox Media and Talking points memo 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,920 celebrating 25 years. Let's hear Phil's theme 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,680 song. The stage is hot. The lights are on. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,920 From Honolulu Nights to St. Paul Songs, 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,100 Queer voices rise T we miss the town. 10 00:00:33,660 --> 00:00:36,860 MSNBC's fans are gathering round 11 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:41,220 Fox takes the mic where tech meets start. Jeff 12 00:00:41,220 --> 00:00:44,140 Revilla is here to tear the news apart. 13 00:00:44,780 --> 00:00:47,900 Covering meetups media. That is our goal. 14 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:52,060 We're joined by Phil Better. The pod has no goal. 15 00:00:52,060 --> 00:00:54,220 What time is it? What? 16 00:00:55,820 --> 00:00:57,420 What time is it? 17 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:00,820 What time is 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,640 time for 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,520 the only live news podcast about 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,920 podcasting from the st. 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,600 I got to admit, that drop was hard. That was 22 00:01:29,650 --> 00:01:32,690 banging. I want that as my theme song because that's 23 00:01:32,770 --> 00:01:36,410 ballin'. Every time Phil walks into the room, that song will play. 24 00:01:36,410 --> 00:01:38,770 Phil Better. Welcome to Pity and the News. 25 00:01:40,130 --> 00:01:43,610 Yeah, I love it. Oh, my God, this is so great. I love you. Do 26 00:01:43,610 --> 00:01:47,250 amazing work, Jeff. Well, thank you, thank you. I'm trying to do something. I'm 27 00:01:47,250 --> 00:01:50,890 definitely doing something. And. And part of that is cause of the connections I've 28 00:01:50,890 --> 00:01:54,610 made doing podcasting. We have Maria Daniels. We had Norm 29 00:01:54,610 --> 00:01:58,350 from He's going to kill me Theta Wave Blue Media. I 30 00:01:58,350 --> 00:02:02,110 think I got it right now. We got Phil Better, international podcast speaker, 31 00:02:02,110 --> 00:02:05,830 The Podcast Mogul joining us north of the 32 00:02:05,830 --> 00:02:09,550 border. We're going. This is our first international guest. There you 33 00:02:09,550 --> 00:02:13,230 go. Love it. I'm breaking barriers and 34 00:02:13,310 --> 00:02:16,510 taking you all with me. Phil, 35 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:20,710 tell us about The Podcast Mogul. Hi, everybody. 36 00:02:20,710 --> 00:02:23,670 I'm Phil Better, The Podcast Mogul. I'm so happy to be here on pod duty 37 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:27,070 and the news. I just switched into professional mode if you couldn't tell. 38 00:02:28,330 --> 00:02:31,610 And if you're listening, this is how I normally sound on my podcast. I am 39 00:02:31,610 --> 00:02:35,410 The Podcast Mogul. What I do is I help podcasters like 40 00:02:35,410 --> 00:02:39,210 yourself take your podcast from no monetization to monetized, 41 00:02:39,210 --> 00:02:43,010 from no growth to growth. Because this is what I love to do. 42 00:02:43,010 --> 00:02:46,690 I all I do every day is speak with podcasters, figure out how I 43 00:02:46,690 --> 00:02:50,450 can help you, and actually help brands grow their podcasts as well and take 44 00:02:50,450 --> 00:02:54,210 the secrets that they teach or they use so that you as an 45 00:02:54,210 --> 00:02:58,020 independent podcaster can grow your podcast the same way. 46 00:02:58,660 --> 00:03:02,180 I've been in podcasting for over a decade. I love it. It's changed my world 47 00:03:02,260 --> 00:03:05,180 and it's allowed Me to be in this little castle, as you can see from 48 00:03:05,180 --> 00:03:08,980 the background behind me. If you're. You're watching over on Poduty 49 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:13,060 YouTube channel, which I. You should be following right now. 50 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:19,060 It does look like you're on like the English countryside with that, like a 51 00:03:19,060 --> 00:03:22,870 chimney or a stone wall behind you. It's a former chimney. Yeah, 52 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:27,110 it's an actual. For Jimmy. Is that a real, real. That's not a 53 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:30,310 green screen? No, it's. It's a full, full, full reel. 54 00:03:30,870 --> 00:03:34,710 Wow. Yeah, we, we, we cultured up here 55 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:38,390 in Canada. We got all the things. Phil, 56 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:40,950 thank you so much. I know you were just in the States a few weeks 57 00:03:40,950 --> 00:03:44,590 ago. We were almost going to get you on the stage. When you were in 58 00:03:44,590 --> 00:03:48,230 town or in the States, what were you attending? You were down in what, 59 00:03:48,430 --> 00:03:52,030 North Carolina? I was in. I was in Charlotte, North Carolina, 60 00:03:52,270 --> 00:03:56,110 for the Empowered Podcasting Conference 2, the second 61 00:03:56,190 --> 00:03:59,990 one. It was an amazing event where I was able to speak on 62 00:03:59,990 --> 00:04:03,670 stage about authentic storytelling. I was on a panel 63 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:07,310 with Jason Cerrone, Yvonne, and 64 00:04:07,310 --> 00:04:11,070 I'm forgetting the other lady's name, which I am very 65 00:04:11,070 --> 00:04:14,580 sorry for her. I think it's Carol. I think it's 66 00:04:14,580 --> 00:04:18,100 Carol. We were talking about authentic storytelling. This is a 67 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:21,340 two, three day event. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 68 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:25,980 It is put on by the most genuine people who want to see you 69 00:04:26,540 --> 00:04:30,059 succeed. Everyone there cares about podcasting, but 70 00:04:30,059 --> 00:04:33,860 cares more about helping others than getting help themselves. I had so many 71 00:04:33,860 --> 00:04:37,660 great conversations where a few people who actually are in 72 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:40,380 the Maria Daniels, Jeff Revilla 73 00:04:42,290 --> 00:04:45,650 community of people that came over to see me. One of them was Mark 74 00:04:45,810 --> 00:04:49,570 from Staid Practical Prepping Podcast. 75 00:04:49,570 --> 00:04:53,330 It was amazing. I had such a great time. I'm looking forward to going 76 00:04:53,330 --> 00:04:57,090 next year. And you as well listeners should be going to these 77 00:04:57,090 --> 00:05:00,610 podcast conferences if you can, because you will meet the people 78 00:05:00,610 --> 00:05:03,810 that you need to have in your life when it comes to podcasting. 79 00:05:04,930 --> 00:05:08,610 Yeah, it's. Well, this is a podcast news show. Phil Better reporting live 80 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:13,330 from. From North Carolina. Empowered Podcasting. I saw a lot of great 81 00:05:13,330 --> 00:05:16,890 photos. It looked like a phenomenal event and something that's going to be on my 82 00:05:16,890 --> 00:05:20,650 radar next year. Yeah, it's. I am 83 00:05:20,650 --> 00:05:24,010 so looking forward to going back. I, I'm disappointed that I got. I missed 84 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:28,330 the. Your meetup that weekend. I. If I 85 00:05:28,330 --> 00:05:31,250 wasn't chosen to be a panelist, I would have been at your event. But I 86 00:05:31,250 --> 00:05:34,450 got the news that I was chosen as a panelist, so I had to make 87 00:05:34,450 --> 00:05:38,160 that difficult decision of which would I go support. 88 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,880 And we always wish for your success. So like that's an 89 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,560 amazing opportunity. You got to jump on it. You got to take it. Well, we'll 90 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,280 know that we'll catch up at another point, and we're glad that, you know, you 91 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:51,079 were able to experience that and have a great time and let us know how 92 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:54,800 it was. Oh, thank you. And I'm so glad to be a part of your 93 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,160 community because you gave me my start as an international speaker. So I'm going to 94 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,940 be supporting you 110% that it's like almost like 95 00:06:01,940 --> 00:06:05,540 a. Championship belt and like the intercontinental heavyweight champion of 96 00:06:05,540 --> 00:06:08,940 podcasting. Phil Better. Oh, 97 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:12,300 funny enough, I do have a belt that I am 98 00:06:12,780 --> 00:06:16,620 I a wrestling belt that I do sponsor. I 99 00:06:16,620 --> 00:06:20,220 did see that there's. There is a podcast mogul belt, right? Yes, it is. 100 00:06:20,220 --> 00:06:23,900 The I AIWF Canadian 101 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:27,900 Heavyweight Championship belt is sponsored by Feel Better, 102 00:06:28,670 --> 00:06:32,430 The Podcast Mogul. It's currently held by a gentleman 103 00:06:32,670 --> 00:06:35,950 named Adam Kraft, I believe from 104 00:06:36,350 --> 00:06:40,190 the Atlantic provinces. But he is a fighting champion and he defends 105 00:06:40,190 --> 00:06:43,630 that belt every chance he gets. So I'm very happy to have a fighting champion 106 00:06:43,630 --> 00:06:47,470 as my first champion for that belt. That's awesome. 107 00:06:47,470 --> 00:06:51,310 And we started the show as a way to get together Saturday mornings. A lot 108 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:55,030 of times we're, we're busy during the week. We're recording in the evenings after 109 00:06:55,030 --> 00:06:58,280 work a lot of times. And Saturday was kind of a time where we could 110 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:02,040 slow down, we could digest all the news that comes our 111 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,720 way each. Each week, I'm filtering a thousand plus stories 112 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,640 to find you the six best that we can bring to you for duty in 113 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,360 the news. And, you know, we want to sit down with friends and fans and 114 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,760 people who love podcasting. We're drinking coffee. I'm drinking 115 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,760 the Guatemala Dark from Harvest Moon, which is two blocks 116 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,940 down the street. So if you ever come to the theater in the morning for 117 00:07:23,940 --> 00:07:27,700 a Saturday morning, I hope you join me sometime. Nobody has yet. So who 118 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:31,220 will be the first one to join me as a random guest? We'll walk down 119 00:07:31,220 --> 00:07:34,500 to Harvest Moon. We have a little march and then we go down. They have 120 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:37,900 these things called hand pies, which are like empanada hand pies. 121 00:07:38,460 --> 00:07:42,220 These are amazing breakfast sandwiches. They're like 122 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:45,660 puff pastry stuff with eggs and bacon and sausage. Or they have a 123 00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:49,470 vegetarian one that's spinach and cheese. Like, they are really, really 124 00:07:49,470 --> 00:07:52,830 good. We. We had it both days. I was there. Correct? 125 00:07:53,950 --> 00:07:57,230 Most likely. That's so. Yeah. That 126 00:07:57,550 --> 00:08:01,350 I have to say has. I'm not a huge coffee drinker, to 127 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:05,190 be fair. I've probably had 10 coffee cup, 10 cups of coffee in my 128 00:08:05,190 --> 00:08:08,830 whole life. But their hot chocolate is a divine. 129 00:08:09,070 --> 00:08:12,670 They're those sandwiches or those pastries that Jeff is talking about. 130 00:08:13,070 --> 00:08:16,690 Just so good, warm, delicious. It feels like 131 00:08:16,690 --> 00:08:19,970 it's freshly made, like when they just hand it to you. 132 00:08:20,450 --> 00:08:23,970 And then there's the pizza. You guys have such a great pizza 133 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:27,770 joint. Oh, God, I am so looking forward to 134 00:08:27,770 --> 00:08:31,370 going back just for the pizza and the food. Pretty much. Not to see Jeff 135 00:08:31,370 --> 00:08:35,010 is a plus. But the food is the main reason I'm going back down. Yeah, 136 00:08:35,010 --> 00:08:38,690 Pittsburgh, big surprise on the culinary front. But Phil's had 10 137 00:08:38,690 --> 00:08:42,060 cups of coffee in his life. I've had 10 cups of coffee today. 138 00:08:42,540 --> 00:08:45,900 Phil, are you ready to get into these stories? Let's get into the news. 139 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:50,100 Here's Pudutti in the news. We're going to Hawaii. 140 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:53,900 We're going to Keep it Aloha. Keep It Aloha podcast goes live 141 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:57,500 at the Blue Note Waikiki with seven 142 00:08:57,659 --> 00:09:01,500 sons and the Aloha spirit met live podcasting 143 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:05,340 magic as the Keep It Aloha podcast hit the stage with the 144 00:09:05,340 --> 00:09:09,160 iconic Blue Note Waikiki. Host Kamaka 145 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,560 Diaz sat down with the island's newest reggae sensation, 146 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,840 seven Sons, for a heartfelt talk story session that 147 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,640 captured the essence of Hawaii's creative community. After the 148 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,239 conversation, the band treated fans to a soulful 30 149 00:09:24,239 --> 00:09:27,760 minute acoustic set, blending smooth harmonies and island 150 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,560 rhythms. Even better, every dollar raised went to seven Sons 151 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:35,280 scholarship fund, helping the next wave of local musicians chase 152 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,090 their dreams. It's a perfect example of how live podcasts 153 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:42,730 can bring community culture and creativity together 154 00:09:42,890 --> 00:09:46,730 under one roof. And this is one of 155 00:09:46,730 --> 00:09:50,210 those stories I love. Everybody knows I'm so 156 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:53,770 bullish on what live podcasting can be, what it can become. 157 00:09:54,250 --> 00:09:58,090 And here's a crossover where this podcast, one of their 158 00:09:58,090 --> 00:10:01,850 bands favorite bands on the island, they're having an event that's 159 00:10:01,850 --> 00:10:05,140 not only a way to bring their fans together, but a 160 00:10:05,140 --> 00:10:08,980 fundraiser. So now you're bringing people together, you're raising money 161 00:10:08,980 --> 00:10:12,020 for a cause, and you're having this shared experience. 162 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:15,380 Like, how powerful is that? I 163 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:20,420 love all the stories today because they're just amazing 164 00:10:20,579 --> 00:10:24,300 for what podcasters can do with their community. And that's what's so 165 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:28,100 important. I love this more specifically because 166 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:31,850 I do have a lot of independent artist friends that 167 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:35,130 have bands that are not, that are 168 00:10:35,130 --> 00:10:38,930 unfortunately not getting the success that they deserve and 169 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:42,210 pairing it with a podcast that is about the community. 170 00:10:42,450 --> 00:10:46,050 Like Keep It Aloha podcast, which talks about the islands. 171 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:49,770 You know, they are creating this event. 172 00:10:49,770 --> 00:10:53,570 They've created this community that will come and support. 173 00:10:53,650 --> 00:10:57,410 And you see it constantly with other podcasts, large, like 174 00:10:57,410 --> 00:10:59,650 big name podcasts going around doing these 175 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,160 studio, not studio theater tours or even stadium tours. 176 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,440 And they're selling out. But this is proof that even a small 177 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,920 podcast, you, you team with another group that needs that, that 178 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,600 has a community that's somewhat similar to yours coming together. 179 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,480 And it's not for self profit. It is for frigging 180 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,320 charity, which is bigger and better. That's just 181 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,040 makes this even better. This is the power that you as a podcaster can do. 182 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,850 So if you, if you can do this like, like Jeff said, like, if 183 00:11:30,850 --> 00:11:34,450 you are in the Pittsburgh area, head up to Trenton, 184 00:11:34,530 --> 00:11:38,290 go to the Poduty theater, check it out, see what it's like 185 00:11:38,290 --> 00:11:41,730 first, and talk to Jeff about hosting your podcast there. 186 00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:45,290 Because you can put, bring in charity, you can bring in live events. Like they're 187 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:49,010 doing a concert after the podcast. So it's. You're getting a two for one, you're 188 00:11:49,010 --> 00:11:51,890 getting a live podcast. So if you love the podcast, you're getting to see it 189 00:11:51,890 --> 00:11:55,250 live and they're chatting and you get to meet them afterwards, which. Who doesn't want 190 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:58,210 to see a live recording? Right. People go to Jimmy Fallon. Why not go to 191 00:11:58,210 --> 00:12:02,000 your podcast? But also you get a musical 192 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,600 concert after a great. From a great reggae band. 193 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,520 This is. And you're supporting independent artists and we need to support more 194 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,720 independent people, independent podcasters, independent 195 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,080 musicians and writers. So I'm 100% for this. 196 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,600 I wish I was in Hawaii right now so that I could go to this 197 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,080 and support this. Yeah. What's incredible is you have 198 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,160 the ability to connect like this. Where this is on the island, right? This is 199 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,840 on Hawaii, on the mainland here, which I'm sure that's what 200 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,400 they would. Now all of a sudden I'm Hawaiian. But if we're on the mainland, 201 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,600 you have bars, restaurants, libraries, have media 202 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,240 centers. If you're not in Pittsburgh and you don't have a Poduty in your 203 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,920 town, there are unlimited ways to put on a 204 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,520 live show to bring your community together. So start 205 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,040 thinking outside the box. You don't just have to record a podcast isolated 206 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,790 in your basement. You can go to the places where your 207 00:12:57,790 --> 00:13:01,150 fans are, the restaurants, the coffee shops, the bars, 208 00:13:01,470 --> 00:13:04,910 and bring them together and have a shared experience. 209 00:13:06,030 --> 00:13:09,790 This is like, this is bringing the loneliness 210 00:13:09,790 --> 00:13:13,470 of podcasting into the limelight, allowing 211 00:13:13,470 --> 00:13:17,270 us to connect with our audience. Like, if you say 212 00:13:17,270 --> 00:13:21,030 like I've been in the theater, the theater has about. You said 30 213 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:24,580 seats, correct, Jeff? Roughly 40 is the legal 214 00:13:24,580 --> 00:13:28,100 Amount of capacity. Okay, yeah, So I was 10 chart. But you have 40 215 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:31,580 people. Think about this. You. If you already have 40 216 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:35,260 listeners, let's say you're very niched and you're. You're talking about 217 00:13:35,260 --> 00:13:38,900 your town, right? You have 40 people who listen from your town. That 218 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:42,620 fills up the theater. That. Jeff is it. And let me tell you, 40 people 219 00:13:42,620 --> 00:13:46,380 in one room, That's a lot of people. I spoke in front of only 20 220 00:13:46,380 --> 00:13:50,140 people. No, I think it was between 20 and 30 people when I did 221 00:13:50,140 --> 00:13:53,460 my panel. And that is intimidating 222 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:56,820 because it was like the first time I was in such a large group. I'm 223 00:13:56,820 --> 00:14:00,500 used to talking to a camera, and I'm safe and sound. But you get to 224 00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:03,780 see the actual impact your podcast can have 225 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:08,300 with your community firsthand because they're there to support you. 226 00:14:08,300 --> 00:14:11,700 And that's just going to boost your. Your need to continue podcasting. 227 00:14:12,740 --> 00:14:16,020 Find a local location library, like Jeff said, library, 228 00:14:16,820 --> 00:14:20,580 school, auditorium. See if some schools have theaters. See if you can rent it out, 229 00:14:21,090 --> 00:14:24,850 if that's a possibility, you know, and just find 230 00:14:24,850 --> 00:14:28,530 a place, because I'm telling you, you will get revitalized 231 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:32,650 doing a live podcast, even if you do it once a year, you. You will 232 00:14:32,650 --> 00:14:36,210 see how you just. The. The energy 233 00:14:36,769 --> 00:14:40,610 for it just comes back to you. I. I came home from the 234 00:14:40,690 --> 00:14:44,410 conference and my family was like, Phil, you didn't stop smiling 235 00:14:44,410 --> 00:14:46,850 for a week. Can you stop? It's creepy. 236 00:14:48,290 --> 00:14:51,810 But yeah, if you. If you're not watching. I just did a very creepy smile 237 00:14:52,940 --> 00:14:56,500 that I had like a serial killer. I. I am like. Jeff is very 238 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:59,740 bullish on live in person theater 239 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:03,580 shows. I'm probably second behind him at 240 00:15:03,580 --> 00:15:07,260 how bullish I am because it's. It's coming. Like, I have something I want to 241 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:10,860 say at the end of the show regarding this because of 242 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:14,820 AI, but we're gonna keep moving the news because we 243 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:17,820 got some other great stories. But the moves. 244 00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:22,300 This is when we have a guest. Now, we do call this Poduty and the 245 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:26,100 crew. So if you go to the news.poduty.com 246 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:29,820 There's a people section, or actually it's a crew section. Anybody who's ever 247 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:32,980 been on the show, there's an archive of what shows they've been on 248 00:15:33,380 --> 00:15:37,220 and. And a little bio about them. So Phil is going to 249 00:15:37,220 --> 00:15:41,060 get inducted into the crew after this show. One of 250 00:15:41,060 --> 00:15:43,820 the things I want to add to this is I do a Pittsburgh podcast meetup. 251 00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:47,650 It's a monthly event, and from that, I'm obviously looking for 252 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:51,170 butts to fill the seats here. And I'm looking for people for the stage, I'm 253 00:15:51,170 --> 00:15:55,010 looking for talent. I'm typically converting 10 to 20% of 254 00:15:55,010 --> 00:15:58,610 the people who make it to the theater into live shows the following 255 00:15:58,690 --> 00:16:02,450 month. So if you're a business owner, you're an accountant, you offer 256 00:16:02,450 --> 00:16:05,890 marketing services, you're a consultant, keep that in mind. 257 00:16:06,210 --> 00:16:10,010 There's opportunity here. This is, you know, your live event could be part of your 258 00:16:10,010 --> 00:16:13,360 funnel where if, you know, you get certain amount of people to a theater, 259 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,640 a certain amount of them are going to convert into customers or 260 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,720 listeners. So keep that, keep that in the back of your head. 261 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,440 This is another way to grow your business. It's the 262 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,000 smartest way of growing your business because it's, you get to have 263 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,520 that connection with the individuals. I'm all for it. 264 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,360 Let's. More live events. Well, speaking of more live 265 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,960 events, story number two. Today, Unboxing Queer 266 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,640 History is live Again. Reconnecting generations 267 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,440 in Chicago. History came alive in Chicago as the 268 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,840 Gerber Heart Library and Archives hosted 269 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Unboxing Queer History Live Again, a sold out 270 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,960 celebration of storytelling, connection and preservation. The 271 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,800 evening recreated a full podcast episode live on stage, 272 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,560 spotlighting the LGBTQ Intergenerational 273 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,400 Dialogue project where elders and youth shared powerful 274 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,150 personal stories. The audience laughed, cried, and learned 275 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:15,870 as the performers brought archival voices to life with live 276 00:17:15,870 --> 00:17:19,670 recordings, video and art. More than a podcast, 277 00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:23,390 this event became a living time capsule, a reminder that 278 00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:26,590 telling our stories out loud is itself an act of 279 00:17:26,590 --> 00:17:30,270 resistance. And that community history can't be canceled when 280 00:17:30,270 --> 00:17:33,190 it's shared, recorded and celebrated together. 281 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:38,110 This one was super powerful, like the idea of a 282 00:17:38,110 --> 00:17:41,910 time capsule. To me, I'm always very careful what I say on 283 00:17:41,910 --> 00:17:45,390 stage because I know, like a diamond, anything I record is going to last 284 00:17:45,390 --> 00:17:48,910 forever. But on the flip side of that, anything you do record 285 00:17:49,310 --> 00:17:52,750 does last forever. So if there's a time period in history 286 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:56,670 where there's a lot of friction, there's a lot of things happening in 287 00:17:56,670 --> 00:18:00,510 society, and you're documenting that so that generations in 288 00:18:00,510 --> 00:18:04,270 the future can learn about it, or generations in the past 289 00:18:04,270 --> 00:18:07,390 telling us how they struggled and how they survived to get to today. 290 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:12,050 This was a very powerful way to document history and something 291 00:18:12,050 --> 00:18:15,810 I, I probably never considered as much. I, yeah, I, 292 00:18:16,210 --> 00:18:19,730 you just blowing my mind with that because I never looked at it as documenting 293 00:18:19,730 --> 00:18:23,530 history. But it's true. They're, they're talking about history. 294 00:18:23,530 --> 00:18:27,010 They're, they're going into the archives, bringing out the stories from the past 295 00:18:27,330 --> 00:18:31,090 so that generations in the future can hear about it. Because we do 296 00:18:31,090 --> 00:18:34,530 lose those stories if we don't record them, or if they're written down, they can 297 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:38,110 be burnt. They can be banned in some instances, as we've 298 00:18:38,110 --> 00:18:41,910 seen throughout history. But this also 299 00:18:41,910 --> 00:18:45,190 just shows how powerful community is, right? Because we, 300 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:49,350 without promoting or politicizing anything, 301 00:18:49,670 --> 00:18:53,270 communities like the LGBTQ community, 302 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:56,910 and I apologize if I destroyed the. The 303 00:18:56,910 --> 00:19:00,750 acronym, it's not my regular vernacular. But 304 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:04,350 they are very supportive and. But they're also somewhat 305 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:07,750 scattered. But you have this community coming together, a small community. It's 306 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:11,430 intergenerational, right? So you have, you know, boomers and 307 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:14,910 elder millennials and Gen Xers talking to Gen Alpha, Gen 308 00:19:14,910 --> 00:19:18,590 Z about the past, about some of the magnificent 309 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:21,950 moments throughout their history that allowed them to become 310 00:19:22,350 --> 00:19:26,070 more prominent, become less stigmatized. So for 311 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:28,190 me, seeing this is again, just re. 312 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,000 Re Pushing. 313 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,240 Re. Reinforcing the idea that having 314 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,520 your community at a live event is so important because there. 315 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,360 It's not just for you sitting there talking to your audience, telling them their 316 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:48,080 stories like they did over at Unboxing Queer 317 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,880 History. It's the opportunity for other people to meet and 318 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,400 network and get to know each other so that they know they're not alone. 319 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Especially when you're using a podcast similar to this, where it is 320 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,320 sometimes stigmatized there are pushed to the outside of society 321 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,960 because they don't conform. This allows them to connect with 322 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,760 others so that they don't feel alone. This is what also live podcasting 323 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,520 can do for your audience. It allows them to feel like, oh, I'm 324 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,080 not the only one listening. There's this person, there's that person. I can 325 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,800 connect with this person. And you'll see your podcast grow 326 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,140 because you're creating those connections within your community, 327 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:28,980 within your listenership that can come to support for major things 328 00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:32,900 like doing a live at a 329 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:36,020 historic library that tells the stories 330 00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:40,420 of your. The people of your past, you know, that you're connected to. 331 00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:44,260 So I think this is wonderful. I love it. I would love to see more 332 00:20:45,220 --> 00:20:48,660 events like this at specialty libraries or just 333 00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:52,180 libraries in general, hosting these live events of history, podcast 334 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,160 or reading podcasts so that you know you can grow a community. 335 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,560 I'm down hard for this. 336 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,160 Phil and I are bullish on the power of independent media and the ability 337 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,880 for you to create something, own it from start to finish, and then own the 338 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,520 final product, the distribution rights, how it's shared online. 339 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,720 You have 100% ownership. And the line in here that it's a 340 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,320 reminder that telling our stories out loud is itself an act of 341 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,070 resistance, is something you couldn't do. I mean, you could, you 342 00:21:23,070 --> 00:21:26,630 could have, you could have an event 20 years ago, 343 00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:30,470 but now you can document that and distribute it to the world 344 00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:35,110 and be in complete control of that messaging, not answering to anybody, 345 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:39,110 not censoring it to something that somebody 346 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:42,670 wants you to say or, or censoring it for the airwaves. You can be your 347 00:21:42,670 --> 00:21:46,190 authentic self on a piece of media that you can own and 348 00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:49,950 distribute to the world. Yeah, it's, it's. The most powerful form 349 00:21:49,950 --> 00:21:52,670 of resistance is independent media. 350 00:21:53,710 --> 00:21:57,070 And I think we're going to be seeing a lot more rise of it 351 00:21:57,390 --> 00:22:01,230 in the coming days, in the coming weeks, in the coming months and years. 352 00:22:01,710 --> 00:22:05,510 Given the current political, in the political stance in 353 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:09,150 the world today, I can see a lot more independent 354 00:22:09,150 --> 00:22:12,910 media. It's just like small businesses make the backbone 355 00:22:12,910 --> 00:22:16,500 of the economy. Small independent 356 00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:21,420 news networks create the, the news that everybody needs to 357 00:22:21,420 --> 00:22:25,220 hear, and the voices that we need to hear are allowed to speak. 358 00:22:25,220 --> 00:22:27,940 And we can get that, get representation, 359 00:22:28,820 --> 00:22:32,500 and it's only through independent media. And speaking of 360 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,620 voices from the past, we got wits 361 00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:39,580 returns a live revival 10 years in 362 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:43,370 the making. 10 years after its cancellation, Wits is back on the 363 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:46,850 stage at the legendary Fitzgerald Theater in St. Paul, 364 00:22:47,090 --> 00:22:50,530 proving that some shows never really die. They just take a 365 00:22:50,530 --> 00:22:54,170 creative nap. Host John Moe and music director John 366 00:22:54,170 --> 00:22:57,970 Munson reunited for a one night only variety show filled with 367 00:22:57,970 --> 00:23:01,490 laughter, sketches, live music, and 368 00:23:01,570 --> 00:23:05,290 joined by comedian Paul F. Tompkins and a surprise 369 00:23:05,290 --> 00:23:08,690 musical guest. What began as a Minnesota Public radio 370 00:23:08,690 --> 00:23:11,730 experiment in 2010 has grown into a community 371 00:23:11,970 --> 00:23:15,770 legacy. One where comedy, music and conversation 372 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:19,530 mix perfectly in front of a live audience. As Mo 373 00:23:19,530 --> 00:23:23,170 put it, we got canceled, but we sort of decided not to be. 374 00:23:23,410 --> 00:23:26,530 It's a true testament to the staying power of live performance 375 00:23:27,090 --> 00:23:30,610 and the podcasting spirit that refuses to fade away. 376 00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:35,860 This just reinforces our previous statement how powerful a 377 00:23:35,860 --> 00:23:38,860 community is. Right? This was a community run 378 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:43,500 public radio show. Okay, that, yes, obviously 379 00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:47,380 it was able to have some money behind it. It was on radio, so it 380 00:23:47,380 --> 00:23:51,020 got that distribution. People heard about it and it got sizable, 381 00:23:51,340 --> 00:23:55,180 but it's still a community base. And they, they just came together 382 00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:58,910 for one day. Even though they were canceled, they still had that power 383 00:23:58,910 --> 00:24:02,590 to bring in the audience of listeners to come listen to a live 384 00:24:02,590 --> 00:24:05,790 event, even if it was a one off. This may force them to do it 385 00:24:05,790 --> 00:24:09,390 more often. Hey, maybe they'll do more podcasting. But this 386 00:24:09,390 --> 00:24:13,190 shows how powerful your podcast can be. Even if it's been canceled, quote, 387 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:16,950 unquote canceled. I am, I love this. I want more 388 00:24:17,030 --> 00:24:20,110 of these. I want more people, more public radio. To go on to the 389 00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:23,780 podcasting and yeah, this is, this is 390 00:24:23,780 --> 00:24:27,460 awesome. I love it. This is a string of stories we've had 391 00:24:27,460 --> 00:24:30,780 recently where something in the traditional media space 392 00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:35,140 has transitioned to their own show or their own podcast or 393 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:38,620 their own event. It's happening more and more as these 394 00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:42,380 legacy brands maybe can't afford due to, you 395 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:45,980 know, dwindling listenership, dwindling advertising dollars. 396 00:24:46,220 --> 00:24:49,980 The people who made these shows 20, 30 years ago on radio or 397 00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:53,830 television, they're now taking control of their brand 398 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:57,350 and their ownership and putting these events on themselves. 399 00:24:57,830 --> 00:25:01,630 Yeah, I love it. I want more of this. I, I 400 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:05,310 just, I'm not a big fan of consolidating everything 401 00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:09,150 under one big roof when it comes to media. I want as 402 00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:12,550 many independent people out there telling the news that 403 00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:15,510 sometimes we don't want to hear, but we need to hear. 404 00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:20,300 Yeah, I want more of this. I want to see more, you know, local news 405 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:24,460 people talking about stories, doing the independent journalism, 406 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:28,820 be it in music, be it in the actual news, political, be 407 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:32,539 it corporate, whatever. I want to see more independent news people 408 00:25:32,539 --> 00:25:35,620 going out there. And I believe we're going to be trusting it more and more 409 00:25:35,620 --> 00:25:39,260 now. Even though it's easier, simpler to 410 00:25:39,260 --> 00:25:42,380 create a news organization, I think we're going to be seeing a lot more news 411 00:25:42,380 --> 00:25:46,020 oriented in the local community community, which could be very 412 00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:49,500 interesting because then you can do these amazing in person 413 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:53,140 events. Well, news is the perfect 414 00:25:53,140 --> 00:25:55,620 segue for story number four. 415 00:25:55,940 --> 00:25:59,700 MSNBC bets big on live events and podcasts 416 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:03,060 ahead of major rebrand. This one comes to us from Business 417 00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:06,780 Insider. MSNBC is going all in on live events 418 00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:10,260 as it prepares for its big rebrand to Ms. Now. 419 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,120 The network plans to triple its in person productions next year. 420 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:18,080 Everything from live podcasts and panels to interactive fan 421 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,680 experience like MSNBC Live. This is who we 422 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,480 are happening October 11, which is today when we're recording in New 423 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,760 York. With stars like Rachel Maddow, Jen 424 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,440 Zaki and Nicole Wallace taking the stage for live 425 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,280 conversations and Q&As, MSNBC hopes to transform 426 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,060 its viewers into an engaged, connected community. As 427 00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:43,500 audience shift from cable to streaming, MSNBC's new 428 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:47,260 strategy is clear. Bring the news to the people, not 429 00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:50,500 just through the screen, but in real life where trust, 430 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:53,540 conversation and connection can take center stage. 431 00:26:55,140 --> 00:26:58,180 I love this. It's showing that the big boys 432 00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:02,460 are realize how powerful one podcasting is, but also creating 433 00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:06,260 that community feel or creating these events 434 00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:09,020 where people can actually interact and see that it's not 435 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:13,660 there. Isn't there less of a barrier between I and the person 436 00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:17,660 I'm listening to her and getting to know. However, I also have 437 00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:21,500 something that I want to say. With the rise of AI generated 438 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:24,900 video, live podcasting, live 439 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:28,380 recording is going to be even more powerful because 440 00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:32,260 that's more trusting. I can go to this thing and I can see them 441 00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:36,100 talk in person. They're a 3D individual, they're live 442 00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:39,620 in person. I don't have to worry about it being an AI generated 443 00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:43,180 video because I was there and watching it. I truly believe 444 00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:46,300 that with the rise of the AI videos and that 445 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:50,380 more companies are going to go this route because it's more trusting. I can 446 00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:54,100 trust if I can go see it live. Yeah. Here's a 447 00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,560 traditional media company creating these live events. And I think 448 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,160 the data is starting to show that people are tired of isolation. 449 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,800 They've become addicted to their cell phones. They're waking up from this 450 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,360 addiction. They're understanding maybe because of 451 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,759 AI, that sitting in bed at night, scrolling through a 452 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:15,480 conveyor bait, a conveyor belt of videos on their 453 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,200 phone isn't healthy behavior. And I think that's another 454 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,770 reason why these live events are becoming so, so much more front and center. 455 00:28:23,170 --> 00:28:26,930 People want to get out, people want to connect with people. We are a social 456 00:28:27,010 --> 00:28:30,130 being. Yeah. Humans are, seek community 457 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:34,850 and we just don't. You don't get that kind of fulfillment 458 00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:38,890 staring at a two dimensional screen all night. You want to be able 459 00:28:38,890 --> 00:28:42,490 to shake hands, smile at somebody, share your ideas, even 460 00:28:42,490 --> 00:28:46,290 debate your ideas. It's okay to have different ideas, but 461 00:28:46,290 --> 00:28:49,970 have healthy conversation or why do you believe this one? I believe 462 00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:53,710 that those, we don't have any of that anymore because we 463 00:28:53,710 --> 00:28:57,550 work all day and we go home and we, we get under the covers and 464 00:28:57,550 --> 00:29:01,190 either stream media and then get on our phone. So these events 465 00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:04,870 are going to continue to become more and more front and center and maybe 466 00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:08,670 because of AI, we may have a, an IRL 467 00:29:08,670 --> 00:29:11,630 revolution. I fully believe 468 00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:15,870 moving forward there's going to be less and less 469 00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:21,220 trust on traditional media and 470 00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:24,980 more and more trust in, in companies that do live 471 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:28,500 events. So with MSNBC doing this so early 472 00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:31,700 and proving that it's going to work, you're going to see a lot of other 473 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:35,500 traditional switch over if they want to continue 474 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,100 their business. And it's going to 475 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:42,340 cause a cascade effect that I'm very interested in seeing 476 00:29:43,150 --> 00:29:46,750 what happens. I think it's going to be a lot of fun 477 00:29:46,990 --> 00:29:50,750 with what's coming up. You know, when we were younger there was only, I'll joke, 478 00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:53,790 those three television stations, that's how old I am. And 479 00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:57,390 newscasters were Local celebrities. 480 00:29:57,790 --> 00:30:01,630 People loved Joe DiNardo. People loved Peggy Finnegan. If 481 00:30:01,630 --> 00:30:04,910 you're in the Pittsburgh area, you know what I'm talking about. But these were local 482 00:30:04,910 --> 00:30:08,430 celebrities. And through streaming and through our cell phone addictions, 483 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:12,590 we've really lost that connection to these people who are propping 484 00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:16,230 up the local economy. They're telling us what's going on and what's new and 485 00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:19,910 what's happening. And I think for local news stations, 486 00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:24,030 this model is perfect to bring back that love 487 00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:27,870 and support of these quote, unquote local celebrities who 488 00:30:27,870 --> 00:30:31,590 are on TV every night for, you know, half an hour at a time. But 489 00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:35,190 everybody knows their name locally. Yeah. Even if they don't 490 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:38,790 do like a daily livestream, quote unquote. 491 00:30:39,390 --> 00:30:43,110 Even if it's like, hey, every Friday we open up the studio. 492 00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:46,430 You can come in and you can watch the live recording of it 493 00:30:46,670 --> 00:30:50,310 just once a week. That's gonna be amazing 494 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:53,990 for your audience because they get to connect and understand what's going on. And 495 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:57,550 you may end up having people who can help you 10 times 496 00:30:57,790 --> 00:31:01,550 your audience or provide advice. You never know who 497 00:31:01,550 --> 00:31:04,990 you're gonna meet when they come in. But also you're creating that community. 498 00:31:05,150 --> 00:31:08,370 Feel like we need, we need to have community again 499 00:31:08,930 --> 00:31:12,610 and we're striving for it. We're so starve of community 500 00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:16,610 that we're looking anywhere for that community. And I think, 501 00:31:17,090 --> 00:31:20,370 I think that the rise of more live podcasting from 502 00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:22,770 traditional and as well as independent 503 00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:27,530 sources will be fantastic for not only the economy, but 504 00:31:27,530 --> 00:31:31,170 the mental well being of the communities. I got 505 00:31:31,170 --> 00:31:34,930 another one for you. We're going to finish out New York City strong. Last three 506 00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:38,760 stories are all New York, so if you're looking for a community right now, New 507 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,360 York City is the place to be. Vox Media brings its star 508 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,120 podcast to the Tech Futures stage. This just happened 509 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,920 the last three days, but Vox Media is stepping out of the studio 510 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,240 and onto the stage at Tech Futures 2025, 511 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,280 transforming New York City South Street Seaport into a 512 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,840 three day celebration of innovation, technology and live 513 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,080 conversation. From October 7th through the 9th, 514 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,720 audiences experience live podcast tapings from icons like 515 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,520 Sue Bird and Mega Rapineau. With a 516 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,040 touch more the Verge's Nile Patel with 517 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,680 decoder and finance influencer 518 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Vivian2 with network and Chill. 519 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,280 It's all part of a growing trend where podcasts don't just inform, 520 00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:31,330 they perform as tech features blend 521 00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:34,970 culture, business and technology in real time. Vox 522 00:32:34,970 --> 00:32:38,650 Media proves that live podcasting isn't just about talking 523 00:32:38,650 --> 00:32:42,130 tech. It's about shaping the future of how we connect, 524 00:32:42,370 --> 00:32:46,130 learn and Share stories together. This 525 00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:49,730 is everything that we love on a much higher scale. 526 00:32:49,730 --> 00:32:52,930 Vox Media, the podcast that they sponsor and produce, 527 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:57,340 they're taking them around like on a little mini tour. And this tour ended up 528 00:32:57,340 --> 00:33:01,180 being at Tech Futures in New York City. This, 529 00:33:01,340 --> 00:33:05,100 this is like what I'm saying, small, independent, like Vox 530 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,820 Media started, I believe, small. I don't think they were part of the 531 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:12,620 mainstream conglomerate, but they, I think they may have 532 00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:15,900 been bought. I'm not sure, I don't know the whole history. But this is what 533 00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:19,020 you can do. You start a media brand and you, you start helping local 534 00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:22,580 podcasters grow and grow and growing. And then before you know, you're on tech future 535 00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:25,840 or on pod duty in the news telling other 536 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,360 podcasters how they should be, you know, going and doing live 537 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,960 events. I, I love this. I want to see more and more 538 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,520 like the previous story in this story is like mainstream 539 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,240 media coming into the podcasting world. Whereas a couple of the first stories 540 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,080 were more independent style and bringing the, the, the, the 541 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,920 podcast experience to the community, doing lives. So 542 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,590 you're seeing it both, you're seeing the independence working. You're seeing, you're also seeing the 543 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:55,510 big time major players doing the exact same formula, 544 00:33:55,670 --> 00:33:59,350 which if you can't figure out is live events 545 00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:03,190 are where it's at. Even if you do one a year, that's still 546 00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:06,990 enough that your community is going to rally around. If you make 547 00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:10,550 it a big event, you're going to have people show 548 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:14,270 up, people are going to come support you. Believe you 549 00:34:14,270 --> 00:34:18,020 get at least 25 downloads on your podcast and 550 00:34:18,020 --> 00:34:21,340 they're listening through the whole episode. Because I, I don't believe downloads are so important 551 00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:24,980 as much as consumption rate. But if you get 552 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:28,700 25 people listening every month to your podcast, that's 25 people that may 553 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:32,420 show up, that will probably show up and support you. If you 554 00:34:32,420 --> 00:34:36,020 do a live event at Poduty Theater in Trentum, 555 00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:39,780 Pittsburgh, Pa. Anywhere, not just Poduty, but 556 00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:43,550 you know, your hometown has places to do this. You be 557 00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:47,190 creative, go to a park. Most parks have those little 558 00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:50,990 clamshell stages somewhere in the middle of the park. You could 559 00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:54,710 probably rent that for 25, $50, have a live event, 560 00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:58,470 record that show. Think about what that does to the value of your 561 00:34:58,470 --> 00:35:02,110 podcast or the perception of your podcast. Like, hey, we were on the main 562 00:35:02,110 --> 00:35:05,950 stage at Roosevelt park and we did a show in front of 300 563 00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:09,760 people. You know that credibility you can't 564 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,320 get just podcasting in your basement. No. And what's even 565 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,000 better, you're doing it live in this theater. That's open to the public, 566 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,480 right? There's going to be overspill. People are 567 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,560 going to come in because they're going to hear, oh, what's going on here? Why 568 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,240 is there like 30, 40, 50, 300 people just sitting watching this stage? 569 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:30,320 Come over and see. They hear your podcast. They'll be like, oh, that I never 570 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,840 knew this podcast. This sounds interesting. And then you got a potentially a new 571 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,650 fan that's going to be an advocate for you because 572 00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:41,370 they organically found you in the wild while you were doing a 573 00:35:41,370 --> 00:35:44,850 live event. And they're going to think you're a bigger podcast than you actually you 574 00:35:44,850 --> 00:35:48,450 perceive yourself. Because they're seeing only the big boys, 575 00:35:48,610 --> 00:35:52,370 the big podcasters doing the live events. And they must assume 576 00:35:52,610 --> 00:35:56,450 that you doing a live event are just as big. Doesn't matter how big 577 00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:59,810 your audience is, the fact that you're doing it and no one else is 578 00:36:00,220 --> 00:36:03,980 gives you the credibility as a podcaster. Well, 579 00:36:03,980 --> 00:36:07,540 one of the big boys are in New York City. We got Talking points 580 00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:11,340 memo marks 25 years with its first live 581 00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:14,940 podcast in New York city. For its 25th 582 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:18,700 anniversary, Talking Points Memo is taking the conversation from the 583 00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:22,340 newsroom to the stage. Host John Marshall 584 00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:25,660 and co host Kate Riga are bringing the John 585 00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:29,500 Josh Marshall podcast to a live audience in New York City on 586 00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:33,140 November 6th. Fans can expect a candid evening of 587 00:36:33,140 --> 00:36:36,900 politics, humor and insider jokes, followed by Q and 588 00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:40,460 A and an open bar happy hour. Because as Josh 589 00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:43,340 says, I'm more fun when I'm drunk. 590 00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:47,820 After successful live recordings in D.C. and Chicago earlier this year, 591 00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:51,980 this marks TPM's first ever live produced podcast in 592 00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:55,820 New York City, celebrating two and a half decades of 593 00:36:55,820 --> 00:36:59,620 independent journalism. And you know, here's the traditional media 594 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:03,620 doing a new media play. I love it. It's 595 00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:07,700 again, it's just like the MSNBC story and the 596 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:11,220 Vox media story these guys have done already. 597 00:37:11,780 --> 00:37:15,380 You mentioned two previously, correct, Jeff. Yeah, Chicago 598 00:37:15,380 --> 00:37:19,100 and dc. Yeah, look, they're already show 599 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:22,900 that, hey, Chicago wants it, D.C. wants it. Obviously New 600 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,370 York wants it because they, they're, they're mad for it, 601 00:37:26,530 --> 00:37:30,370 right? FMSNBC is doing it, then Vox did it. New York is there. 602 00:37:30,370 --> 00:37:33,690 So if you're in New York, you already know there's already people who would love 603 00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:37,530 to come out to your podcast. So start promoting it. Start with 604 00:37:37,530 --> 00:37:41,250 your community within. If you're in the 605 00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:44,930 Bronx or on like a certain block, go there, see what's 606 00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:48,690 available. You can even look at getting local sponsors to help offset 607 00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:52,540 the cost, if there's cost, because you can use they can donate a 608 00:37:52,540 --> 00:37:55,900 little bit to promote and you can like, this is a chance for you to 609 00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:58,540 work with your community, to help put them, 610 00:37:59,580 --> 00:38:03,420 help the small businesses around you, which, to support you on 611 00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:07,060 this, this journey, working with those people. I am 100%. 612 00:38:07,060 --> 00:38:10,580 I want more stories where smaller people are going, smaller 613 00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:13,980 podcasts or smaller organizations are doing these live 614 00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:17,700 events. We know how powerful it is. If live events didn't work, we wouldn't have 615 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:21,490 concerts. Think about it. Musicians do this. They 616 00:38:21,490 --> 00:38:25,210 go to bar. To bar, to theater. To theater. If they are doing 617 00:38:25,210 --> 00:38:28,530 it and they're showing it works, why aren't podcasters? Because we're 618 00:38:28,530 --> 00:38:32,370 technically using our voice to entertain the masses. Just 619 00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:36,130 like singers are using their voice to entertain the masses. Yeah. This 620 00:38:36,130 --> 00:38:39,890 model that I'm proponent of, this small podcast 621 00:38:39,890 --> 00:38:43,690 theater, is no different than the trajectory that 622 00:38:43,690 --> 00:38:46,810 comedy clubs took through the 60s, 70s and 80s where 623 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:51,310 there weren't comedy clubs prior, people would go to the side of a 624 00:38:51,310 --> 00:38:54,990 bowling alley or at Chinese restaurants, always had comedy. 625 00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:58,750 For some reason, they didn't have places to perform. But as more 626 00:38:58,750 --> 00:39:02,510 and more people like in podcasts, as more and more people are developing 627 00:39:02,510 --> 00:39:06,150 podcasts, producing podcasts in their home, they're going to need a space 628 00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:10,070 to go to that next level. Just like comedy clubs emerged in 629 00:39:10,070 --> 00:39:13,900 the 80s and 90s to support a growing comedy scene, we're 630 00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:17,260 going to need a place to support a growing podcast scene, especially on the 631 00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:20,700 independent level, the smaller DIYs. Because, 632 00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:24,740 you know, Phil mentioned there's already actors and comedians filling 633 00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:28,540 theaters and arenas with their podcasts. So we know people 634 00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:32,220 are. They're consuming this as a form of entertainment, as a form of 635 00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:36,020 live entertainment. So if you're just in your basement, how 636 00:39:36,020 --> 00:39:39,580 do you get the Madison Square Garden? We need those stepping stones. 637 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,940 And these small theaters are those types of stepping stones. They're not 638 00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:46,340 just going to pluck you from your basement and put you on a stage in 639 00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:49,460 front of 20,000 people. You're going to have to learn how to perform 640 00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:53,780 in front of people so that you can command an audience of 20,000. 641 00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:56,420 And you're going to have to work your way up a ladder. Just like a 642 00:39:56,420 --> 00:40:00,140 band starts in a bar, they go to a venue, they go to a 643 00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:03,460 theater, they go to an arena. They have to work their way up. 644 00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:09,310 This. I, I'm 100 behind you. I, I love. I, I never 645 00:40:09,310 --> 00:40:11,550 even considered the correlation between 646 00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:16,750 it. Comedians and comedy clubs springing up earlier. 647 00:40:17,230 --> 00:40:21,070 Right? Again, you're showing your age. I love you, Jeff. Around 648 00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:24,750 in the 70s doing comedies, you. Were, oh, God, you're 649 00:40:24,750 --> 00:40:28,590 younger than I thought. No, I'm kidding. This is, this is 650 00:40:28,590 --> 00:40:32,320 it. Like small theaters like Poduty, or small locations 651 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,160 where you can actually go and record. Podcast studios can eventually bring 652 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,680 you to the next level. I'm, I'm, I'm 653 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,440 remembering a podcast that I love quoting. It's the Shits and Gigs podcast 654 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,839 about two British lads who came together to create a 655 00:40:46,839 --> 00:40:49,800 podcast. They did a world tour. 656 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,200 They started in one of their, one of their living rooms, 657 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,560 and within five years they did a world tour. They did the U.S. they 658 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,320 did Australia, they did Mo. They, they 659 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,520 sold out the O2 arena in 660 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,760 London. Think about that. These are two British 661 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,600 lads who started in their basement, but because they 662 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,440 hustled and they knew how to grow their audience, they grew it to a 663 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,480 place where they were able to do live events around the world. 664 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,240 Yes, they may have not done a live event in a small theater like, 665 00:41:28,330 --> 00:41:31,490 but if you think about it, you can do the same thing. You can start 666 00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:35,330 at a small theater, be it your library, be it 667 00:41:35,330 --> 00:41:38,970 the local school's gym nasium, maybe you're able to rent out, 668 00:41:39,610 --> 00:41:43,250 but you have this ability, the library, to host live events. 669 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:46,410 Think about what your, your podcast theme is. If you're a 670 00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:50,210 podcast on books, a library would be a great place to do it. Or a 671 00:41:50,210 --> 00:41:53,780 bookstore. You know how some authors do signings at a 672 00:41:53,780 --> 00:41:57,420 bookstore? You can look in talking with your local independent 673 00:41:57,420 --> 00:42:01,060 bookstore about doing a live podcast, talking about books. 674 00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:05,140 Right? That's an opportunity. If you're a beer connoisseur 675 00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:08,860 or a whiskey connoisseur, you can go to the Barge, you can go to the 676 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:12,500 Distilleries if they're local, or the Bruce Breweries. And see, I've 677 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:16,300 seen and heard stories about podcasters that have done that and it's 678 00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:19,750 been insane. You need to get out of your 679 00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:23,590 basement or your studio, if you will, and connect with 680 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:27,350 live people in doing live events, It's. If 681 00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:31,030 these past six stories haven't convinced you that a live 682 00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:34,310 event is something you need to do as a podcaster to think about, 683 00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:38,230 you're on your own. That's all I have to say about that. I'm throwing my 684 00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:41,710 pen down. I'm done. If these six stories, plus 685 00:42:41,710 --> 00:42:45,490 24 other episodes of six stories, I have 150 686 00:42:46,050 --> 00:42:49,690 stories telling you it's time to go live. It's time for 687 00:42:49,690 --> 00:42:53,450 Poduty in the news. We have events coming up. We're going to do some 688 00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:57,290 housekeeping to get us out of here tonight. The next Pittsburgh podcast meetup, 689 00:42:57,290 --> 00:43:00,890 November 1 from 6 to 9 if you're in the 690 00:43:00,890 --> 00:43:04,490 Pittsburgh area. I feed you, I buy, I'm buying sandwiches this time. 691 00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:08,130 Drinks. We have a great night. About seven o'. Clock. We live 692 00:43:08,130 --> 00:43:11,930 stream one hour the event for everybody around the world to watch. We do 693 00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:15,600 Q and A. We will answer your most pressing podcast questions. 694 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,320 We've got Poduty shirts. I got an early bird 695 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,640 shirt. $10 if you want to get it in four colors, five 696 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,440 sizes. We have just like the one I'm wearing in modeling. I'm the only 697 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,200 Poduty model on the planet. You get a shirt for 10 bucks when you 698 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,800 come into the theater. We have some upcoming shows 699 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,760 headed your way. Next Saturday there's going to be a 700 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,390 class reunion for the local high school. These guys do a 701 00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:45,990 sports related podcast in the Pittsburgh area. It's called the Bird 702 00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:49,750 Cave. And before the reunion they're going to 703 00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:53,230 do an episode of their podcast with fellow alumni. 704 00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:57,229 There's a little bit of pre gaming I think happening where they're going to get 705 00:43:57,710 --> 00:44:01,430 ready for the reunion. So the Poduty podcast theater is not responsible 706 00:44:01,430 --> 00:44:05,230 for the behavior of anybody at the reunion. But the Bird Cave, they're going 707 00:44:05,230 --> 00:44:08,830 to have varsity flashbacks with special guests from their graduating year. 708 00:44:08,830 --> 00:44:12,550 So what a fun little show to reconnect instead of doing 709 00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:15,710 a class reunion. I'm really excited about Tamara 710 00:44:16,190 --> 00:44:20,030 the Nailed it Motherhood podcast November 8th. I know that she's 711 00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:23,390 going to have some other things in the lobby area. I think her mother is 712 00:44:23,390 --> 00:44:27,150 selling some books. She's got some items too. It's going to be a live 713 00:44:27,150 --> 00:44:30,590 event. It's a wrap up of her season one of her podcast 714 00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:34,470 and we're going to kick off season two, a great live event and 715 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:38,270 a great way to bring your first season fans together in a special. 716 00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:42,740 Hey, let's meet up at the theater. And something I just put 717 00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:46,020 together. I'm going to do a two day livestream 718 00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:50,060 from the stage only showcasing local Tarentum 719 00:44:50,060 --> 00:44:53,660 businesses. So every 10 minutes I'm going to bring in a new business. Hopefully it's 720 00:44:53,660 --> 00:44:57,300 like Harvest Moon, the Praha, DJ sky, all these 721 00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:00,540 people that are local to the area are going to come in for 10 minutes. 722 00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:04,100 We're going to show what they do, we're going to show what they sell, we're 723 00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,680 going to show pictures of their business, play videos and we're just going to let 724 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,280 you connect with them on a, on a bigger way. We want to help Tarentum 725 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,360 have the best year ever. 2025 726 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,160 is going to go out with a Bang and Tarentum two days of live stream. 727 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,920 If you go to the piduti.com you can register. We're looking for business 728 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,600 owners, volunteers and sponsors. You know, please sign up, 729 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,320 help us pull off one of the craziest events in Tarentum history and 730 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,130 bring the city to life in December. We've got coming 731 00:45:33,130 --> 00:45:36,530 up in 2026 already booked. You can check it out. 732 00:45:36,530 --> 00:45:40,210 Humorous podcast where humor meets chaos. They're coming in from 733 00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:43,730 Vermont or New Hampshire and they're coming down, passing through 734 00:45:43,730 --> 00:45:47,130 Pittsburgh and going to do a live show. We still got like six months away 735 00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:50,810 on that one, but just want to float it out there. And not to be 736 00:45:50,810 --> 00:45:54,610 outdone, my co host today, Phil Better. I'm going to 737 00:45:54,610 --> 00:45:58,410 turn the stage over to Phil for the closing remarks 738 00:45:58,410 --> 00:46:01,100 and all the plugs he wants to do. 739 00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:05,660 Thank you ladies and gentlemen who are listening. If you haven't 740 00:46:05,660 --> 00:46:09,500 figured out that you need to do a live event for your 741 00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:13,340 podcast, do it. Think about it, all 742 00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:16,900 the big brands. There's one podcast that is actually doing it live at a 743 00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:20,620 planetarium and this podcast is on the genomic 744 00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:23,820 structure. They're going to the planetarium and talking about how music 745 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:27,660 influences your genes. Now this is by a brand 746 00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:31,500 that is a very, it's a non profit 747 00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:36,020 that does it, that helps with the genomic system in, in, in 748 00:46:36,020 --> 00:46:39,820 the country. They're doing a live event like everybody is doing live events. Why 749 00:46:39,820 --> 00:46:43,620 haven't you started? Get in contact with Jeff. If you are 750 00:46:43,620 --> 00:46:46,940 in the Pittsburgh area or if you are able to get to the Pittsburgh area 751 00:46:46,940 --> 00:46:50,380 and you know you have a big population of fans there, go there, get, 752 00:46:50,540 --> 00:46:54,220 get involved or even, you know what, start your own Poduty theater 753 00:46:54,690 --> 00:46:58,370 in your local town so that you can start doing this and bringing and 754 00:46:58,370 --> 00:47:01,930 supporting the local community and bringing everyone together to grow the 755 00:47:01,930 --> 00:47:04,890 podcasting world. I am Phil Better The Podcast Mogul. You can find me at The 756 00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:08,530 Podcast Mogul.com and The Podcast Mogul on 757 00:47:08,530 --> 00:47:11,730 all platforms. Jeff, I want to thank you so much for having me. 758 00:47:12,130 --> 00:47:15,890 You are my ride or die. You are the only podcast theater 759 00:47:15,890 --> 00:47:19,570 that I will always go to whenever I'm in Pittsburgh, no matter what. 760 00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:24,100 We're the only podcast theater on Corbett street in downtown Tarentum. 761 00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:27,940 Poduty.com, P-O-D-U-T-Y.com if 762 00:47:27,940 --> 00:47:31,420 you like this podcast, it's news.poduty.com 763 00:47:31,580 --> 00:47:35,380 you can check it out. We have 25 great episodes. Phil is now 764 00:47:35,380 --> 00:47:39,180 being inducted into the Poduty and the Crew 765 00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:42,860 hall of Fame. You'll find his links and bio on the website. 766 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:47,260 Let's go back to that theme song. The 767 00:47:47,260 --> 00:47:50,980 stage is hot, the lights are on from 768 00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:54,320 on the Honolulu Nights to St. Paul Songs 769 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,520 Queer Voices Rise TP Miss the Town 770 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,200 MSNBC fans are gathering around 771 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,640 Fox takes the mic Wet Tech me Start Jeff 772 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,480 Revilla is here to tear the news apart. 773 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,400 Covering Eden's media, that is our goal. 774 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:16,360 We're joined by Phil Better. The pilot has no go 775 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,090 on Time is it? 776 00:48:20,090 --> 00:48:21,850 What time is it? 777 00:48:23,850 --> 00:48:26,330 What time is it? Oh, 778 00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:30,010 it's time for 779 00:48:38,170 --> 00:48:40,890 the only live news podcast about 780 00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:43,610 podcasting from the the stage. 781 00:48:53,290 --> 00:48:56,250 What time is it? Poduty and the News. 782 00:48:57,530 --> 00:49:00,810 The one thing I've noticed about these, these theme songs is you hear, 783 00:49:01,130 --> 00:49:04,010 you know the words prior to the show, but you have no idea what the 784 00:49:04,010 --> 00:49:07,810 show is going to be about if you're a listener. But once you hear the 785 00:49:07,810 --> 00:49:11,640 lyrics the second time after we covered the story, they mean 786 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,200 so much more. Like, I really enjoy that part of the show. 787 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,120 It's awesome. I love it. I got the dance too. Even better.