WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:13.800 practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to Monday Morning. 4 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:15.439 Man, it's gonna be a good Monday. 5 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:19.480 Monday, Monday, Monday, Such a good morning. Yes, who loves Mondays? 6 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:22.079 By the way, you know Garfield remember that comic. 7 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:22.800 Strip Hate Monday. 8 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:24.839 That's what he used to say. He used to hate Mondays. 9 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:26.879 I wonder if there's anybody out there that hates Mondays. 10 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:28.879 And if you're listening, you know, day to day, then 11 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:32.079 today would be Monday. I would just say, Monday gets 12 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.159 a bad rap. It's just as good as any other day, 13 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:37.600 is it. Well, you know, yes, okay, I feel bad 14 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:38.200 for Mondays. 15 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.600 Mondays. You know that I told my son Mondays. 16 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:43.159 When my son started driving. This is honest, go and 17 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:45.119 it's truth. I told him. I said, I feel bad 18 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.520 for the center lane. I said, you know there's three 19 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:49.840 lanes going down mound. I said, the center lane. People 20 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:52.240 don't choose the center lane. They choose usually the outside lanes. 21 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:53.880 I said, I feel bad for the center lane. And 22 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:56.039 you know, years later my son brought it up and said, 23 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:57.520 you know, I drive in the center lane because I 24 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:00.479 feel bad for it. 25 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.679 Okay, well you have such a compassionate family, yes, yes, 26 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:10.959 sweetly attend. Appreciate yeah, yeah, appreciate your concern for them. 27 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:17.359 That's funny. This center late has feelings speaking of absolutely 28 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:20.319 nothing that we've talked about. This segment is. 29 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:23.719 What a seguey pros. I bet our listeners can tell. 30 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.439 We we're bumping up on seven hundred episodes now, so 31 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:29.680 five hundred episodes of the Bible. Guys, something. 32 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:32.040 This is confession time. This is, by the way, something 33 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:34.719 I don't think we've ever done. Desiree came up with 34 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:37.959 a new segment and she said, it's confession time. Each 35 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.680 of you will share a funny, lighthearted confession. When you 36 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.519 have both shared, you get to rate each other's confessional 37 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.519 scare from one to ten based on its hilarity or absurdity. 38 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.640 Oh my goodness, that were you prepared for that? Because 39 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:51.319 I have I have a. 40 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.480 You have on you do yours first. 41 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.000 Okay, So I'll try to make this very fast. But 42 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:01.959 we both went to a Baba college that had sometimes 43 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.439 ridiculous rules, right, yes, very strict, and so I call 44 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:09.159 those Pharisee mentalities. So they say, hey, because some movies 45 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.120 are bad and some movies are really good, we'll just 46 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:12.000 eliminate all movies. 47 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:12.240 Right. 48 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:15.240 That's the sort of the pharisee mentality. Right, So anyway, 49 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.199 what they would say is believe it or not is 50 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.680 they would say, because some people wear really good facial 51 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:23.280 hair and some people have untrimmed facial hair, we just 52 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.800 have a rule no facial hair because we want to 53 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:28.759 control how the image is for college students, right, for 54 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:32.680 Bible college students, which is ridiculous. Well, I realized as 55 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:35.840 a freshman, I signed that book. So I was like, well, 56 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.759 I signed up for it, right, So my freshman year 57 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.000 I was really good about obeying every rule, and then 58 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:45.199 my sophomore year comes, then my junior year comes. At 59 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.240 the end of my junior year, I'm just so tired, right, 60 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.080 just tired of these crazy rules. So I went to 61 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.639 my dean of men and know the dean of men 62 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:58.039 who is there, And I had probably three maybe maybe 63 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:00.800 two months left of college, and I said, hey, I 64 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:04.360 need to I need to grow a beard because and 65 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.240 he says, when nobody grows a beard, there's a one 66 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.199 guy on campus. He has a medical excuse. And I says, well, 67 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.039 I need to grow a beard. It's essential. I have 68 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.319 to grow a beard, and you have to give me permission. 69 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:16.800 And he said why, and I said, because I have 70 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:20.159 a job that pays so well in the summer that 71 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.240 I have to have a beard for and it pays 72 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:25.280 for all my college. And he goes, really, what job 73 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:29.479 is that? And I said modeling and he said and 74 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:31.520 he goes and he looked at me and he goes, 75 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.080 come on, And I said, I said, what are you 76 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.759 going to deny me my money to pay for school? 77 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.080 And I just went with it, and he was trying 78 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:40.719 to bluff me, and he goes, come on, Chris. He 79 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:42.639 looked at me, He's like, come on, come on. And 80 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:45.000 I was like, I am serious. And of course that's 81 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.879 my confession. My confession is kids don't do this. That 82 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:50.159 was not shouldn't lie in Bible college, that's right, it 83 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:50.840 was not true. 84 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:53.120 Should not lie in order to be able to get 85 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.479 the degree that sets you up to be a passage. 86 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:56.879 Which, by the way, I just want to do it 87 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:00.159 for fun. I want to do it to ruffle everybody's feathers. Right, 88 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.439 So he ended up giving me permission. And back then 89 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.759 they would they would give you a demerit, and they'd 90 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:08.479 want money. They'd say, oh, you did something wrong, you 91 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:11.080 didn't wear a tidy class. Here's a demerit. Pay five 92 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.240 dollars and they would make you know what seemed like 93 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.959 millions at the time, right, And that's what they did. 94 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:18.600 They get They just took money from you every time 95 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:21.279 you book a rule. And so anyway, every day when 96 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.560 I had a beard, nobody really knew until I let 97 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.160 them know. And I bet you I had, without exaggeration, 98 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:30.879 twenty demerits every single day in my mailbox because people 99 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:33.240 would see me with the beard and they'd like beard. Anyway, 100 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.600 it was really fun for me. Wow, but that's my confession. 101 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:36.519 That's your confession. 102 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:36.920 Yep. 103 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:39.639 Well that's a shock, so your thought about it. 104 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:40.839 But is it a shock though. 105 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:47.360 They're reasoning shocking? Let me say that their reasoning, you 106 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:50.480 feel like they're reasoning for banning beards to some people 107 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:52.560 were good at maintaining their beers and other people were 108 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:53.439 bad at maintaining. 109 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:55.560 No, they told me that. They said, they said, like, 110 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.480 some beards are scraggly, and we want a certain image 111 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.160 for Baptist Bible college students. So I said, the name 112 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:04.199 of the college. Yeah, yeah, so sorry, don't mean that. 113 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:05.480 Don't mean it. By the way, I don't think that. 114 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:07.279 I don't think that Baptist Broble College, by the. 115 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:08.959 Way, stayed the second time. 116 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.000 I don't think that. I don't think that those rules 117 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.399 still exist today. Yeah, yeah, okay. So to be fair, okay, 118 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:16.000 So all. 119 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:20.199 Those schools, you understand, back in the day, beards were 120 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:22.959 acceptable in seminaries and stuff like that. You go back 121 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:24.920 and look at Spurgeon and all those guys, they were right, 122 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.199 and most Jesus mostly yeah, most of the schools that 123 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:31.879 in general, most of the schools that outlawed beards back 124 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:37.399 in the eighties were the beards were already outlawed in 125 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:40.680 the sixties and seventies. Beat Nicks and hippie It was 126 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:43.319 all about the it was all about stepping away from 127 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.279 the culture, the beat Nicks and hippies. That's exactly twenty 128 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:46.720 years later. 129 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:50.839 Guess what, guys, there's no more beatings exactly. 130 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:53.319 Well, hey, I'm not saying that the movement we came 131 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:55.439 that we came up in was up to date. 132 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.279 By the way. By the way, it was nineties. I 133 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.920 went to school in eighty nine and I was only 134 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:02.800 three months in the eighties, so we're talking most of 135 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:04.920 my school was in the nineties. Yeah, so we're talking 136 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.160 like we're talking twenty years removed from beat Nicks and hippies. 137 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.439 Yeah. Yeah, I know. I'm not arguing with you. I'm 138 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:12.600 just saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. 139 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:15.279 Okay, that's my absurd and hilarious wow wow. 140 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.319 So my well, I'll give a college one too. And 141 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.160 I don't know. Have I told about the getting kicked 142 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:19.839 out of Bible College. 143 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:20.680 I don't think so. 144 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:24.279 So I got expelled from Bible College and I won't 145 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:29.680 say the name, but I was leaving early, and that's 146 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:33.399 a whole other story. And on the way out, one 147 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:35.319 of my friends went, hey, you know what my dad did? 148 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:37.480 And I thought it was a good idea, and so 149 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.360 I put four gallons of liquid laundry detergent a four 150 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:42.680 hundred gallon fountain out in front of the girl's dorm 151 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.319 and it was amazing. It looked great. It's like eleven 152 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:50.759 o'clock at night and big giant bubbles, you know, big foam, 153 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.199 and then these big bubbles floating up in the spotlights, 154 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:55.720 hysterically funny. I loved every bit of it. When I 155 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.000 left in the morning. The next morning, there was you know, 156 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:02.079 probably three feet above foam on top, and then the 157 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.959 fount was just going oh yeah, yeah. Well then they 158 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:09.240 later on they figured out who did it, and they 159 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:11.519 expelled me for it. So I got kicked out, but 160 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:13.399 I was already going to another school, so it didn't matter. 161 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.519 But yeah, that was my my way out there. 162 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.360 You go, Well, yours is way tamer than mine. 163 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.920 Yeah, it was just Frank, and Frank's got me in 164 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.279 a lot of trouble. I thought was funny that the 165 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.759 administration didn't think was funny, right, which still is a problem. 166 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:29.959 Which whist of the things I think are funny. 167 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:32.720 Now that I say it was it was tame. It 168 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:34.079 wasn't tame for the maintenance staff. 169 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:39.639 Yeah, No, I did thousands of dollars worth of damage. Yeah, 170 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:41.839 that's why they expelled me. They expelled me. 171 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.399 Mine didn't hurt anybody, just my own right, my own 172 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:49.519 reputation and uh and my and and put on public 173 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:50.680 display my disdain. 174 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:55.680 Yeah. But I'm I'm quite shocked at your story. So 175 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:57.639 I'm going to give you an eight out of a ten. 176 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.680 Okay, And I'm going to give you an eight point 177 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:02.639 one out of time. 178 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:04.920 Winter. 179 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:09.480 Yes, just hold it up. I squeaked out of victory 180 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.399 because because in my story and my story, I got 181 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.560 out of money. In your story, you got school money 182 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:17.560 on the way, so you yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. 183 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.360 Although I lost a full ride scholarship in that moment too, 184 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.600 so that was it cost me a lot. Oh wow, yeah, 185 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.680 I was there in a full full music scholarship. 186 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.399 I have now upgraded you to eight point two eight point. 187 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:32.080 Two okay, good, a little bit of winning margin there. 188 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.240 There you go. Wow, Well that was fun. 189 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:35.840 That was an interesting one. We have done that before 190 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.159 confession time? Yes, all right, I think that's all I 191 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:40.840 have to confess. The rest of my life has been 192 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.879 nearly perfect. So if we do this segment again, I'll 193 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:46.919 just have to sit in silence. 194 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:49.480 The forest gup, says, and that's all I have to 195 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:50.279 say about. 196 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.360 About that, all right, Okay, Well, hey, welcome. We are 197 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.679 glad that you're with us. If this is your first time. 198 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:00.840 We kind of are running in a series in the 199 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:04.240 Highlights of the Old Testament, and we ended up last 200 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:11.080 week on Friday with a terrible story. King David had 201 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.240 made a massive, sinful mistake with Bathsheba and the prophet 202 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:18.559 Nathan had said, hey, listen, this is going to be 203 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:20.080 something that's going to kind of haunt you. Right, You're 204 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:21.960 going to struggle in your family for a long time. 205 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:27.840 And sure enough, as his children become adults, it just 206 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:29.840 gets a little crazier, a little crazy, a little crazy. 207 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:31.399 Well, he said, they said, your family's going to live 208 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:34.440 by the sword. Yeah, and it's going to be tension 209 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:37.039 and in bad blood. 210 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:43.799 It's correct. So Absalom is David's oldest son, and he 211 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.480 has a sister named Tamar. One of his other sons 212 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:50.759 from a different wife living in a different household, lusted 213 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:56.120 after Tamar and attacked her, molested her, raped her, and 214 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.600 is a horrible, horrible story. We kind of we kind 215 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.120 of talked about that. It hinged on a statement in 216 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:04.799 the Bible. Amnon had a friend, right, his friend convinced 217 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:07.320 him to do this horrible thing, and he did it. 218 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.240 It was terrible. Well, Absalom is furious when he finds out, 219 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:14.399 but David kind of stops the family feud for a 220 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:17.759 little while. Well, then here's what it says in Second Samuel, 221 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:21.679 chapter thirteen, verse twenty three. Two years later, when Absalom's 222 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:25.960 sheep were being sheared, at bel Hazor, near Ephraim, Absolom 223 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.120 invited all the king's sons to come to a feast. 224 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.159 He went to the king and said, my sheep shearers 225 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:32.159 are now at work. Would the king and his servants 226 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:33.879 please come to celebrate the occasion with me? And the 227 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.320 king replied, no, my son, if we all came, we 228 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.720 would be too much of a burden on you. Absalom 229 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:40.799 pressed him, but the king would not come, no, absolutely, 230 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:44.080 though he gave Absalom his blessing. Well, then Absalom said, 231 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.519 if you can't come, how about sending my brother Amnon 232 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.120 with us. Why Amnon the king asked, but Absalom kept 233 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.000 on pressing the king until he finally agreed to let 234 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:55.840 all his sons attend, including Amnon. So Absalom prepared a 235 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:59.200 feast fit for a king. Absolom told his men, wait 236 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.799 until Amnon gets drunk, and then, at my signal, kill him. 237 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.559 Don't be afraid, I'm the one who's given the command. 238 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.679 Take courage and do it. So at Absalom's signal, they 239 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.279 murdered Amnon. Then the other sons of the king jumped 240 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.440 on their mules and fled. As they were on the 241 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.519 way back to Jerusalem. This report reached David, Absalom has 242 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:19.080 killed all the king's sons. No one is left alive. 243 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:21.799 The king got up, tore his robe, threw himself on 244 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:25.000 the ground. His advisers also tore their clothes in horror 245 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:27.919 and sorrow. But just then Jonadab, the son of David's 246 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:31.480 brother Shimia, arrived and said, no, don't believe that all 247 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.960 the king's sons have been killed. It was only Amnon. 248 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.759 Absolom has been plotting this ever since Amnon raped his 249 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.960 sister Tamar. No, my lord, the King, your sons aren't 250 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:44.440 all dead. It was only Amnon. Meanwhile, Absolom escaped Where 251 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:47.279 am I reading to thirty nine yep. Then the watchman 252 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:50.519 at the on the wall at Jerusalem saw a great 253 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:52.480 crowd coming down the hill on the road from the west, 254 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:53.720 and he ran to tell the king, I see a 255 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:58.000 crowd of people coming from the Hornam road along the 256 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.000 side of the hill. Look. Jonadab told the king they 257 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.559 were there. They are now the son King's sons are 258 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.360 coming just as I said. They soon arrived, weeping and sobbing, 259 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:09.720 and the king and all his servants wept bitterly with them, 260 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:13.919 and David mourned many days for his son Amnon. Absolom 261 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:18.639 fled to his grandfather, tell my son of Ammahood, the 262 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:21.879 king of Geesher. He stayed there in Geisher for three years, 263 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.159 and King David now reconcile to Amnon's death, long to 264 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:30.799 be reunited with his son Absolom. Okay, well there you go. 265 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:34.519 Hey, there's there's a part of me. I mean, obviously 266 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:39.440 getting revenge and killing you know, not a good thing. 267 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:42.200 But there's a part of me that has to give 268 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:47.919 Absolom just a little bit of props as a warrior 269 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:54.639 for being that patient to put into place this this 270 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:59.480 revenge plot. So immediately he's thinking, Okay, things are heated. 271 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:04.279 I want to get revenge on Amnin. But I'm going 272 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:07.840 to put this plot into place for two years until finally, 273 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.200 when everybody's guard is let down and everythink's all bygones, 274 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.559 are bygones, then here comes the revenge. So I don't 275 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.039 know why I said that out loud. I guess just 276 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:24.840 the just the patience of Absolom's n Yeah, I love waiting, right, 277 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.679 I mean, that's it's a terrible thing. 278 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.840 It is, it's a horrible thing. I misspoke at the 279 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:34.360 beginning setting this up am Noon. He's got a lot 280 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:37.919 of sons that start with A. Amnon was David's oldest son, 281 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.919 not Absolom, and it was important to state that because 282 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:46.399 it's interesting. Absolom is filled with hatred and anger. He 283 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:51.159 went to his dad right after Amnon took advantage of 284 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:55.159 of Tamar. Absolom ghost his dad and says, what you 285 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:59.159 know this, this isn't okay. And when King David heard 286 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:02.519 about it, he was really angry, but he didn't do 287 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:03.679 anything right. 288 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:06.360 And then didn't am on Flea for a couple of 289 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:06.840 years too. 290 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.240 So well it was two years later is when he 291 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:16.360 finally kills him. But Absolom had every right to expect 292 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.200 justice for his sister, right anytime something like that happens, 293 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:23.600 and we're not supposed to be above justice, right. Justice 294 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:26.440 should be equally applied to everybody, And this was Absolom's 295 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:29.679 feeling about this was my dad. He's the king and 296 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.000 he's letting Amnon get away with this. Well, I think 297 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.200 a lot about it. And while the Bible doesn't say this, 298 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:39.039 Amnon being the first son of David, he's the heir, 299 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:43.399 he will be king someday. He's also the oldest one, 300 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.600 which means he's the one most aware of his dad's behaviors. 301 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.720 And he'd already seen his dad take what he wanted 302 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:53.159 to take a woman he wanted, and essentially when he 303 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:55.840 took bathsheb but he didn't have right. How can how 304 00:14:55.879 --> 00:15:01.159 can just a woman in town consent to king? She 305 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:04.840 wasn't coming to him. He went and just took her, right, right, right, 306 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.519 And so here's no consent. He just takes this woman. 307 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:10.360 And now Amnon does the same thing. It just happens 308 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.919 to be his half sister, right right, But back then 309 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:16.919 it wasn't illegal to marry a half sister, and so oh, well, 310 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.080 you know he shouldn't have done it. But and Absolom's 311 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.399 looking at my dad refuses justice, I'm gonna have to 312 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:26.519 take it into my own hands. If David had stepped 313 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.639 up and done the right thing at the at first, 314 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:32.759 Absolum would have done this. And then there's this whole cascading. 315 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.799 All these stories in the next couple of days are 316 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.840 all because David abdicated his responsibility in that moment. It's 317 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:42.679 so weird though, because he's such a great king. Yes, 318 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:47.159 he's so committed the justice, but in this situation. He 319 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.679 became passive, and perhaps it was because he saw the 320 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.480 exact same thing in his son's life that was already 321 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:54.720 established in his life. 322 00:15:54.879 --> 00:16:01.960 Think about this too. Amnon only knew the the disgrace David, right, 323 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:05.200 so like, uh, I don't mean by disgrace. 324 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:09.360 Amnon was born when they were running from Saul. So 325 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:12.000 oh no, so he was young, yes, so he was 326 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.519 a boy actually that Yeah, he saw his dad at 327 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:16.399 his greatest, but he saw his dad once he became 328 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:18.559 a powerful king and then just take what he wants. 329 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.080 To, yeah, and then and then live we don't know 330 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:24.600 how long, but live to where. I mean it was 331 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.639 long enough to wear but Sheba became queen right like 332 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.080 his wife. So I mean, we don't know how much 333 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.879 time transpired there, but that whole ordeal, well, I guess 334 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:35.919 it would have been during the pregnancy because because the 335 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:38.200 sun died, right, so it would have been months. 336 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:38.759 Yeah. 337 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.200 So uh so all of that happened within within the 338 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.120 pregnancy timeframe. So because remember because Nathan confronted and said 339 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:45.759 the child will die. 340 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:47.440 Yeah, but what we don't know is how long after 341 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:50.879 that that Amnon decided to attack his stepsister right right. 342 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:52.600 For sure, because we don't know how old they were, right, 343 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.919 But but either way though, yeah, that's worse. I was 344 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:58.720 I was thinking it was. But yeah, you're right. Amnon 345 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:02.000 was older, which means he have witnessed his dad acting 346 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:02.440 that way. 347 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:04.920 Yeah, he would have witnessed his dad being a great 348 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:07.920 leader and a godly man. And then he saw his 349 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.920 dad when they didn't go out to war, and when 350 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:12.599 they went out to war and he stayed home, and 351 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:16.079 then he just took Bathsheba. He saw all the judgment 352 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:19.200 of that, the shame of that. But then he did 353 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:21.480 the same thing as dad did, only worse. And you 354 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:24.119 know that's what happens those that are in leadership. What 355 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:30.119 we do in moderation, our followers will do to access well. 356 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.640 The same thing with parents and children. What we did 357 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:36.000 in moderation, our children often wind up doing in excess right. 358 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:39.960 And so I'm not saying that David's choice to steal 359 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:46.559 Bathsheba was in moderation, But it's different than Amnon attacking 360 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:50.599 his sister, right, and it just gets worse and worse. 361 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.039 Sin just kind of cascades down, It gets worse and worse. 362 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.519 What we do, others will do worse and blame and 363 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:58.680 justify it because they saw us do a thing similar, right, 364 00:17:58.720 --> 00:17:59.519 That's what I'm trying to say. 365 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:01.039 You know, I don't think I've ever had this thought 366 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:04.279 until now, but I wonder one of the reasons why 367 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:10.559 David didn't, you know, demand justice for Amnon, you know, 368 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:14.359 m Non's offense. I wonder if it's because David really 369 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.359 truly did have such a sense of God being in control. 370 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.920 Because we know that, right, Like, David completely believes that 371 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.440 God is in control, and that was demonstrated during the 372 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.039 time when the baby was sick. You know, remember, everybody 373 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.319 else was confused as to why he was fasting and 374 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.240 why he didn't eat, and then he got up and ate, 375 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:35.160 and everybody else was like, wait a minute, you didn't 376 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.119 eat while he was still alive, and now you're eating 377 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.960 when the child is gone. But it wasn't about the 378 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.359 child living or you know, being president in this world. 379 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.920 It was all about whether God was going to you know, 380 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:51.599 change what God wanted to do, right, So he had 381 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:55.680 a very strong sense of God being in control. Listen, hey, 382 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:58.039 I know down here it seems like these things are happening. 383 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.599 The baby's sick, the baby's now gone, But no, you 384 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:02.960 don't understand God's in control of all of this. David 385 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.559 knew that. I almost wonder if the reason why he 386 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:09.799 didn't demand justice on Aminin is because he realizes this is. 387 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:13.119 My fault, like like that that's yeah, you know what 388 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:14.039 I mean, very likely. 389 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:16.279 Like like in other words, he's thinking himself, like, hey, 390 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:18.319 I know this is the curse coming back on me. 391 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:20.440 This is exactly what Nathan said was going to happen, 392 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:24.519 And so I can't necessarily even blame Amnon as much 393 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.440 as I could blame myself, right, And I almost wonder 394 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:30.240 if that's the reason why he didn't decide to, you know, 395 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.039 come down with a strong hammer on amin because he 396 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:34.640 realized I did this. 397 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:37.440 I also think that it sometimes it's easier to bring 398 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:40.680 justice on things outside of our household, and sometimes we 399 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:42.839 want to coddle our children and make excuses for our 400 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:47.039 children's bad behavior rather than than than have consequences for them. Right, 401 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:52.240