The Negotiation

In this episode of The Negotiation, we are really excited to talk to Elijah Whaley, VP of Marketing APAC at Launchmetrics, the leading Brand Performance Cloud solution used by Fashion, Luxury and Beauty (FLB) executives to connect with the modern consumer in a constantly changing landscape.
Elijah is also the host of the PARKLU China Influencer Marketing Podcast, a bi-monthly show which features guests who share their unique insights and perspectives on industry developments. We kick things off by talking about how the KOL space has changed over the past 5 years, then discuss in-depth how he worked with one influencer, in particular, Melilim Fu, and grew her following to become one of the most famous and successful KOLs in China. We also discuss Launchmetrics and the problems they aim to solve in today’s marketplace; what it’s like to scale a startup as a C-Suite executive in China; and further explore the dramatic rise of influencers in China. Enjoy!

Show Notes

Topics Discussed and Key Points:
●      How Key Opinion Leaders (KOLs) have evolved over the past five years
●      Co-founding one of China’s top-ranking beauty KOLs, Melilim Fu
●      The team behind Melilim Fu, and how KOLs are typically managed
●      KOLs versus Key Opinion Consumers (KOCs) versus micro-influencers
●      Launchmetrics and the problems they aim to solve in today’s marketplace
●      Scaling a startup in China as a C-suite executive
●      The dramatic rise of influencers in China
 
Episode Summary:
Today on The Negotiation, we speak with Elijah Whaley, VP of Marketing APAC at Launchmetrics, the leading Brand Performance Cloud used by Fashion, Luxury and Beauty (FLB) executives to connect with the modern consumer in a constantly changing landscape.
Elijah is also the host of the PARKLU China Influencer Marketing Podcast, a bi-monthly show which features guests who share their unique insights and perspectives on industry developments.
Elijah speaks on the development of Key Opinion Leaders, or “KOLs”, in China over the past five years. Before turning into a huge industry in China’s eCommerce space, the impetus for KOLs began with passionate fans of certain products who shared their purchase experiences with a small online community via blogging and live streaming. Elijah speaks specifically on co-founding one of China’s top-ranking beauty KOLs, Melilim Fu.
The greatest and most inexpensive approach to customer acquisition is retention. Elijah believes that there is too little focus being placed on customer retention, especially since the real power of retention lies in a brand’s ability to leverage these loyal customers as communication or marketing channels—Key Opinion Consumers, or “KOCs”.
            Finally, Elijah discusses the dramatic rise of influencer marketing in China—a natural evolution in consumer culture due to the country’s inclination to “feel special about themselves by being involved with a group that they consider special.”
 
Key Quotes:
“The intersection between education and entertainment is the sweet spot when it comes to content marketing or content development. Everybody wants to be entertained. To be educated and be entertained at the same time provides the maximum amount of value and bang for your buck as far as your time investment into anything.”
 
“I believe KOCs are something that has existed for a long time: a brand advocate. But it’s a digital brand advocate. [...] A KOC is a brand’s customer. When they talk about your product, they generate more sales. As a brand, if you’re able to identify these customers [...] you can put this label of ‘KOC’ on them and put them into a new basket and say, ‘Hey, this person is an extremely valuable asset to our organization. We need to treat this person differently and leverage them as a communications channel.’”
 
“When the customer comes into the store, we need to overdeliver, surprise, and delight, and create it in a visceral way so that someone wants to take their phone out, capture it, and share it. We know that this is the most impactful way of communicating with other potential customers because it’s word-of-mouth from individuals that others know, love, and trust.”
 
“Timing is the big secret in the startup world. If you can hit that wave right, if you see the swell and you start paddling and you position yourself properly, that’s the big, big secret.”

What is The Negotiation?

Despite being the world’s most potent economic area, Asia can be one of the most challenging regions to navigate and manage well for foreign brands. However, plenty of positive stories exist and more are emerging every day as brands start to see success in engaging and deploying appropriate market growth strategies – with the help of specialists.

The Negotiation is an interview show that showcases those hard-to-find success stories and chats with the incredible leaders behind them, teasing out the nuances and digging into the details that can make market growth in APAC a winning proposition.