WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.200 Hey, everybody, we're the Bible Guys. And if you're just 2 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:05.320 tuning in recently, just know that we are showing a 3 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:07.120 little bit of reruns for a few months, and then 4 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:09.839 we'll be back bigger and better than ever on August 5 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:13.519 thirty first, because behind the scenes, we're taking a hiatus 6 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:14.720 to do some very important things. 7 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:18.399 Yeah, we're building building out a new studio and we've 8 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:21.399 got some new structure. Super excited about it. So August 9 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:24.359 thirty first, brand new content. But in the meantime, enjoy 10 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:25.440 some of our greatest hits. 11 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:29.359 Well, today we're going to be witnessing Paul saying things 12 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:31.039 like you know who I am, you know. 13 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:31.800 Who you're talking to. 14 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.560 He's challenging the idea of false apostles. So he's Chris, 15 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:39.600 and I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible Guys. 16 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:51.600 Okay, Jeff, good morning, Good morning, And I would like 17 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:56.359 to read for you a segment called who Said It? Oh, 18 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.280 this is the Bible version. It's kind of like, did 19 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:03.439 you ever see those monopoly games that are Bibleopoly or 20 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:05.599 Bible Trivia true pursuit? 21 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:08.159 This is who Said It? Bible version. 22 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:09.920 Okay, so these are people in the Bible. 23 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:13.000 Yeah, and they somebody quoted it, and you have to say, 24 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:13.719 who's the one. 25 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:13.959 That said that. 26 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.040 These are Actually I'm looking at them for the very 27 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:19.200 first time they were they were handed to me. These 28 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:20.719 are super incredibly. 29 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:21.159 Easy, are they easy? 30 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:27.719 Yeah? So you know that because if you miss it's. 31 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:27.719 That you missed easy things. 32 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:29.000 Okay. 33 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:31.319 If the world hates you, keep in mind that it 34 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:32.239 hated me first. 35 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:33.159 Jesus said that. 36 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:33.599 Yeah. 37 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:37.200 Okay. Number two, he who comes after me has surpassed 38 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:38.840 me because he was before me. 39 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:40.799 John the Baptist. 40 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.040 Oh what a great sin these people have committed. They 41 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.560 have made themselves gods of gold. 42 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.040 Yeah, that could be one of two people. 43 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:55.879 I'm gonna say Moses. 44 00:01:56.040 --> 00:02:00.480 It was most and now these three remain faith, hope, 45 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.519 and love. But the greatest of these is love, Paul. Okay, 46 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:05.640 last one, even. 47 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:06.719 Though I walk through the Valley of. 48 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:09.879 The Shadow of Death, that's David. 49 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:11.639 Yeah. 50 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:16.439 These are some of the most iconic scriptures in the Bible. 51 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:19.000 Yeah, well that's great. I'm glad. So thank you Desiree 52 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.400 for giving me a layup on that one. 53 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.520 She helps us out with the segments. So maybe we 54 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:26.080 should just call the show The Bible. 55 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:28.360 Guy the Bible Guy because it's you because I got 56 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:32.159 them all right, you're five to five. Hey, by the way, 57 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.479 I would have appreciated more of these obscure ones like 58 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.240 number three, the Moses one, because you know, when you choose. 59 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:41.439 Things that are multiple, you know, it's like, well did 60 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:42.240 Aaron say that? 61 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:42.719 That's right? 62 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.039 Right, So that would have been good, but those other 63 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:46.120 ones are super famous. 64 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:48.800 Yeah, yeah, that was great, so good. 65 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:51.159 But yeah, I didn't mean to put Desiree down. 66 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:52.960 No, no, no, I'm glad. I'm glad she did it. 67 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:56.319 Thank you, Desiree. Yeah, very good. That helped tremendously that 68 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:57.479 you didn't embarrass us. 69 00:02:57.560 --> 00:02:59.599 Hey, by the ways, if if Desrae. 70 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.439 She appreciates her job, that's what it is. Good job, 71 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:03.960 you get to stay with us, does Hey. 72 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:06.960 If she is listening to this, I don't love she listens. 73 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:10.680 She listens, So so Desrae, do me a favorite, pick 74 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.400 more obscure ones. So then next time. 75 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:14.120 When Chris does it. 76 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:16.680 No, no, no, no, no no. 77 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:19.800 No, we'll see. I didn't boast about being the Bible guy. 78 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:24.159 Well I didn't before the questions after the speaking of boasts. 79 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:26.439 Yeah, this is this is what actually. 80 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.759 Paul is doing. He feels foolish about doing it too. 81 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:30.759 Well, that's how he starts this off right right here. 82 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:32.159 What a great transition. 83 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.120 You nailed it. You're getting good at this. Yeah, okay, King. 84 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:39.120 So we are in second with these chapter eleven. We've 85 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:41.560 been going through the Book of Acts in the beginning 86 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.280 of the First Church if you're just new with us, 87 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.400 and so as we go through the Book of Acts, 88 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:49.000 then we wind up when we come to a spot 89 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.199 where a new book was written or new letters written 90 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.240 by Paul. Then we pause and go through those letters, 91 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:55.240 and then we'll go back. So right now, this is 92 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:58.280 in the second letter or the third or fourth letter, 93 00:03:58.319 --> 00:03:59.240 depending on how you view this. 94 00:03:59.599 --> 00:03:59.960 In Sec. 95 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.080 And Corinthians, and we're reading in chapter eleven. We're just 96 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:04.800 going to read the first fifteen verses or so. In 97 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:07.280 the New Living Translation, it says, I hope you will 98 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.360 put up with a little more of my foolishness. Please 99 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.599 bear with me, for I am jealous for you, with 100 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:14.759 the jealousy of God himself. I promised you as a 101 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.560 pure bride to one husband Christ, but I fear that 102 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.800 somehow your peer and undivided devotion to Christ will be corrupted, 103 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.000 just as Eve was deceived by the cunning ways of 104 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:26.399 the serpent. You happily put up with whatever anyone tells you, 105 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:28.199 even if they preach a different Jesus than the one 106 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.439 we preach, or a different kind of spirit than the 107 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.759 one you received, or a different kind of Gospel than 108 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.319 the one that you believed. But I don't consider myself 109 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:38.279 inferior in any way to these super apostles who teach 110 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:41.319 such things. I may be unskilled as a speaker, but 111 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:44.079 I'm not lacking in knowledge. We have made this clear 112 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.920 to you in every possible way. Was I wrong when 113 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:49.680 I humbled myself and honored you by preaching God's good 114 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:53.240 news to you without expecting anything in return. I robbed 115 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.680 other churches by accepting their contributions so I could serve 116 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.279 you at no cost. And when I was with you 117 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.120 and didn't have an enough to live on, I did 118 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:03.360 not become a financial burden to anyone, for the brothers 119 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.279 who came from Macedonia brought me all that I needed. 120 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:08.240 I've never been a burden to you, and I never 121 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.800 will be. As surely as the truth of Christ is 122 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:12.800 in me, no one in all of Greece will ever 123 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:16.160 stop me from boasting about this. Why because I because 124 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.560 I don't love you. God knows that I do, but 125 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.079 I will continue doing what I've always done. This will 126 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:23.279 undercut those who are looking for an opportunity to boast 127 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.560 that their work is just like ours. These people are 128 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.360 false apostles. They're deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles 129 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:32.519 of Christ. But I am not surprised. Even Satan disguises 130 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.040 himself as an angel of light, so it's no wonder 131 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:38.680 that its servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. 132 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:40.879 In the end, they will get the punishment that we 133 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:41.839 could deeds deserve. 134 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:44.360 Yeah, there you go. 135 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:49.199 So you know, it's important for our listeners who've been 136 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.519 following us a long time, you know, in other words, 137 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:55.079 like through this journey of Sewan Corinthians understand that this 138 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.600 is sort of a topic that's been touched on several times. 139 00:05:57.680 --> 00:05:57.839 Yeah. 140 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.000 Yeah, he keeps circling back to this big idea. 141 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.439 Goes back to the big idea. So he's writing. 142 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.399 Keep in mind, this is writing in one sitting, right, 143 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.639 this is the delivery of a letter. So he feels 144 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.319 just as passionate about this as he did. Let's just say, 145 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:15.000 like five podcasts ago, right, right, right, because because this 146 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.680 is this is the same letter, so he still has 147 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:21.680 the same feelings, the same anxious thoughts. And I love 148 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.519 how he says, you know, again, I've just been sort 149 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.480 of harping on this, but Paul is the master illustrator. 150 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.399 If he were a presenter, he would have used props 151 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:31.000 all day long. 152 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:31.720 Oh probably. 153 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.519 Yeah, He's the one who you know, he's a visual learner, 154 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:37.759 he's a visual teacher. And so he talks about how 155 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:41.839 he says, I promised you as as a pure bride 156 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:45.199 to one husband, Christ, but I fear that somehow your 157 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.959 pure and undivided devotion to Christ will be corrupted. And 158 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.839 he's not talking about behavior in this case. He's talking 159 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:55.680 about a bride being corrupted by false doctrine, a church 160 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.120 being corupted by false doctrine, because. 161 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:00.399 Because you know, think. 162 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.920 About it, just as a bride dedicates herself to one man, 163 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.560 Paul's making the comparison and saying, you know, Jesus being 164 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:10.800 the groom the bridegroom, and the church being the bride, 165 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.240 which you know we are called the bride right of 166 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.519 Christ's He's talking about the purity. So he's using that 167 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.279 analogy he's taking it one step further, you know, just 168 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:23.600 dedicate yourself to one man, to the groom. And he's saying, 169 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.839 you're not doing that because you're you're you're you're if 170 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.600 you're accepting false doctrine, your your attention, your devotion is 171 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.560 divided to another one besides Jesus. 172 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:37.480 And I think it's interesting he recognizes the fact that 173 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:39.800 he's not he's an unskilled speaker. 174 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:40.800 Right, dude. 175 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:44.160 I love the fact that he did that. Well, we're speakers, 176 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:44.920 sure right. 177 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.120 We speak so but but but for the layman, it's 178 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.160 it's still it's still really encouraging. 179 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:52.319 Well, you think of him as being like Superman, he 180 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.720 can do everything right, and instead, you know, just a 181 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.680 couple of days ago, we talked about how he talked 182 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.560 about being afraid even though he was in persecution. When 183 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:02.759 we read the Persecution, because we're just blowing through the stories, 184 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:06.160 you know, what happens over months or years, we read 185 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:09.199 in a paragraph and it just kind of condenses it, 186 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.959 and you think, man, this guy was fearless, He went 187 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.000 through all kinds of persecution, he do all these things, 188 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:18.079 and God just made him like superman Christian and then here, 189 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.319 you know, you feel like, oh, he's great at spreading 190 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.519 the Gospel all around the known world at the time, 191 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.759 because he was such a compelling speaker and he was 192 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:27.360 such a good teacher. If I, if I was that 193 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.160 kind of guy, I would do it too. And it 194 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.560 turns out Paul goes, so, I'm not a very good speaker, 195 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:34.679 and I admit it, right, And so it wasn't that 196 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.039 he was super brave, and it wasn't that he was 197 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.279 a great compelling speaker. Other times he says, hey, I 198 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.240 didn't come with the wisdom of the world. As a 199 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:43.879 matter of fact, when you listen to me, I sounded 200 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:47.879 like a fool. Right, So he wasn't a compelling speaker. 201 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:50.799 And so what he was was he was available and obedient. 202 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.480 God said go and he went right. 203 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:52.759 Right. 204 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.480 The greatest ability is availability, and he just did what 205 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:58.879 God told him to do, and God made him incredibly effective, 206 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:00.840 which should encourage all of us. We don't have to 207 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:02.519 be super speakers, we don't have to be super brave. 208 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.519 We just have to be willing to start and God 209 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:05.279 will do the work. 210 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:05.720 Yeah. 211 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.159 So the quote that he uses is he says, I 212 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.720 don't consider myself in ferior in any way to the 213 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:16.440 super apostles who teach these things. Then he says, I 214 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:19.039 may be an unskilled speaker, but I'm not lacking of knowledge. 215 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.679 And so he's recognizing his strengths and weaknesses. And so 216 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:26.320 here's and I love to talk about this particularly but 217 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.799 Ephesians four eleven. How later on, he says that he 218 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.960 gives to the church. God gives to the church some 219 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:37.399 with spiritual gifts to be apostles, some to be prophets, 220 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.440 some to be evangelists, some to be pastors, and some 221 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:42.080 to be teachers. And he gives to the church these gifts. 222 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:43.960 And then he goes on to talk about for the 223 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:47.240 perfecting of the saints, for the growing up of the mature, 224 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:50.240 so we may be made, you know, mature into Jesus. 225 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:52.279 So he talked about the purpose of those gifts in 226 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:55.000 the church. But anyway, all of that to say this, 227 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.279 so he is he is the one who is most famous. 228 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:01.720 When we say apostle, the first thing that comes off 229 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.840 of our lips is Paul. Right, even though the other 230 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:06.000 disciples were apostles. 231 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:08.000 Yeah, you're going to say apostle, Paul, apostle, Peter. 232 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:08.679 Those are the first two. 233 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:09.720 Yes, those the first two. 234 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:14.799 But Paul is actually acting in his gift, and I 235 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.519 love the fact that he's talking about it, because the 236 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:20.600 gift of an apostle is different than that of a teacher. 237 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.600 It's a different spiritual gift altogether. So I remember reading 238 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:29.039 a book, Oh, come on the Forgotten Ways. Oh yeah, yeah, 239 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:30.200 but what's his name? 240 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:33.480 I remember it? 241 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.000 Yeah, the Frigant Ways And anyway, Allen Hirsch, and I 242 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.879 remember the breakdown. He says this. The apostle is the 243 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.080 one who goes, The prophet is the one who knows, 244 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:48.120 the evangelist is the one who recruits, the teacher is 245 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.120 the one who explains, and the pastor is the one 246 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.080 who cares right. And so really what he's saying is this. 247 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:57.159 He's saying like, you need all five. And he actually 248 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.480 laid out in the book that they build upon one 249 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:04.360 another sequentially. So you need first for any mission, an apostle, 250 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.879 an apostle who says, hey, we're going to go take 251 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.720 this hill, We're going to take this city for Christ. 252 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:12.480 And then once you have an apostle to set the mission, 253 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.480 then you have the prophet who discerns, and the prophets 254 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.480 the guy who says, I think God's telling us to 255 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:20.399 start in that cafe, right, and then and then and 256 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.879 then once you have a plan and a direction that 257 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.559 what you need is somebody with the gift of evangelism, right, 258 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.960 you need somebody who just is naturally gifted at sharing 259 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:32.559 the gospel, and that person just goes in and recruits. 260 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.879 And then once you have a body of believers, then 261 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:37.960 what you need are the last two gifts are the 262 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:41.080 inward gifts. So the first three are outward gifts. The 263 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.320 inward gifts are pastor teacher, one who cares, and one 264 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:44.000 who explains. 265 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:45.759 Well, Paul is the. 266 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:49.679 Guy because this is on his he's writing this letter 267 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:53.120 on his third missionary journey, but he established this church 268 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:54.120 in Corinth on his. 269 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:57.000 First missionary journey, right, So he's he's. 270 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.519 The guy who travels all around the Mediterranean Rim, and 271 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:03.679 he's the guy who starts things and and so think 272 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.200 about his gifts. He's an influencer. He made a big 273 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.039 good speaker, but he's a mover and a shaker man, right, 274 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.080 But he's not the guy to eat up every Sunday morning, right, 275 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:16.759 and and and maintain the church. 276 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:17.279 Yeah. 277 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.279 And it wasn't that he was so super courageous. It 278 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.600 was he was willing to put up with the punishment 279 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:24.679 that was coming with it. It was, you know, we 280 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.639 were laughing about this a while ago when you asked me, 281 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:28.240 you know, how do you see, you know, the end 282 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:29.879 of the movie of your life, And I'm. 283 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:32.399 Like, just walking into the jungle and disappearing, right. 284 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:35.360 The funniest thing that's been so funny. 285 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.000 I think that's That's the kind of attitude Paul had. 286 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:41.720 Was he wasn't afraid of the struggle. That part of 287 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:45.080 it was. He was afraid, certainly, but he knew the 288 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:47.639 struggle was necessary in order to achieve what it was 289 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.600 that he was achieving, right, And I think that his 290 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.600 goal of reaching people who were far from Christ, his 291 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.840 goal of going to places where there had never been 292 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:00.840 a gospel representation, it was like the it at the door, 293 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.879 the cost at the door for that was, I'm probably 294 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:05.960 gonna go to jail, I'm probably gonna get beat up, eventually, 295 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:08.480 they're probably gonna kill me. That's really scary to me. 296 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.200 But the value of reaching people for exceeds it. So 297 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:15.200 I'm not a very good speaker. I'm I'm I'm fearful, 298 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.960 but the delight of sharing the gospel compels me and 299 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:22.159 so I'm going to go anyways, and those apostolic type leaders. 300 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:28.279 That's very different from the guy like he doesn't sometimes 301 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.879 Paul says a ton by not saying it. And here 302 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:35.600 there's a lot of sarcasm in this chapter, right, So 303 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.720 he's he's like, what do I say these things? Because 304 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:40.960 I don't love you, God knows I do or whatever. 305 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:42.919 But he also he's kind of taking shots at the 306 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:47.519 quote unquote super apostles, right, which I love, And he 307 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:52.279 doesn't say anything else really beyond that, and there's kind 308 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:58.200 of a warning there. I hate naming names, like from stage, 309 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.120 I just don't say this pastor, that pastor is a 310 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:01.919 bad guy, or this. 311 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:04.039 I don't care for that. 312 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:06.919 And so Paul he only does it a few times 313 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:09.600 where he names somebody, but there's a lot of times 314 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:12.360 when he uses kind of this this you know, he's 315 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:15.279 referencing these quote unquote super apostles, and what he's saying 316 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:18.399 is there's a certain attitude of a person that you 317 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:21.600 should not follow. So they're coming in and they're using 318 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:23.879 Jesus words, but they're not talking about the same Jesus 319 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:26.519 we're talking about. They're using faith concepts, but they're not 320 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:28.600 talking about the faith that I brought. They're talking about 321 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:30.720 Holy Spirit stuff, but they're not talking about the Holy 322 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.639 Spirit you received, right. And they come in like they're 323 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.720 super apostles and they have all this authority and they 324 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:39.039 got all this swagger and they're so cool and they're 325 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.159 so impressive. And Paul is like, I'm not any of 326 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:46.240 those things. You should watch out for those people. And 327 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.879 I would just say the kind of person who comes 328 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:52.759 rolling in in their bends and they act like they 329 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.360 know everything and they're so clearly living for the riches 330 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.000 of it and the benefits. He's like, watch out for them. 331 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.960 They're they're pretenders. And you know, I've been around people 332 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.080 who demand that they be called apostles so and. 333 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.320 So right, so and so right. 334 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.639 So I was in a meeting one time, about a 335 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:14.279 year ago. I was in a meeting and it was 336 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:18.879 all pastors, so we're all ministry people, and uh so 337 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:21.679 I referenced this guy and I said his name, his name. 338 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:22.759 I'm not gonna say his name. 339 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.840 I said his name, and he steps up and goes, yeah, 340 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:29.000 I'm Bishop so and so. And I said, oh, I 341 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:30.720 just think of him as and I said his name 342 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:33.039 again because I thought he was joking, and he said 343 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:37.039 I prefer bishop, right, And I was like what, and 344 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.200 You're like, oh, okay, okay, sorry, you know, and I 345 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.600 never referenced him the rest of the day because I'm like, wow. 346 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:45.279 Well, part of that is cultural. 347 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:47.440 So part of that is, like, I don't think this 348 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:51.000 was okay, okay, okay, let's let's just. 349 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.759 Leave it that this wasn't a cultural thing. 350 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:54.320 Okay. 351 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:57.639 By the way, I was given some really great advice 352 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:01.200 when I was a teenager in my young twins, and 353 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:04.320 the older you get, the more you realize how strong. 354 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:04.679 This statement is. 355 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:08.360 But I remember getting some job offer, you know, some 356 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.480 ministry job offer, and it paid a little bit more 357 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.639 money than the average job offer and everything else, but 358 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.159 the church that was offering it was not a healthy church, right, 359 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.480 And so I remember calling my youth pastor at the time, 360 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:24.799 my pastor of high school students who I was under. 361 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:27.679 Jim was his name, and I remember calling him and 362 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:29.639 I said, hey, you know, I get this job offer, 363 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.799 and he made this statement that stuck with me, and 364 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:34.279 I think you probably know what I'm going to say. 365 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:37.320 He said, Chris, he said, everything that glitters isn't gold. 366 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:41.159 And I was like, oh, like just because I was 367 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.360 so fascinated with the glitter, right, just you know, just 368 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:47.919 the shiny salary and everything else, right, And that's what 369 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:51.440 this is. That's what this is. It reminds me of like, 370 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:55.080 you know, Paul's sort of saying super apostles with these 371 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:58.320 fancy you know, speeches and persuasions, and he's like, but 372 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:01.639 it doesn't, it doesn't really doesn't. It lacks content, right, 373 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.200 which is why you're saying, like, I have knowledge, I 374 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:08.440 have content, and a simple presentation with pure content is 375 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.359 worth far more than a fancy presentation that seems seems impressive, 376 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:15.559 but it doesn't have substance. 377 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.559 Sure, you know, sometimes I'm nervous about people will say, hey, 378 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:21.960 what authors are you paying attention to? What theologians should 379 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:25.559 I listen to? What what apologists should I pay attention to? 380 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.480 And you know, human sin, we fail. So people can 381 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.880 have a great body of work and then have a 382 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:35.680 massive character flaw and then we're all disappointed by them 383 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:39.599 or whatever. Right, some always nervous. The easiest, easiest theologians 384 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:40.880 to recommend are the dead. 385 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:44.759 Ones, right right, because because they're not going to ruin. 386 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.720 Their reputations, they're not going to have any So I 387 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.759 give away often. I buy him by the case Norm 388 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:57.240 Geisler's Systematic Theology and one volume, right, And I like 389 00:17:57.279 --> 00:17:58.799 it because he kind of splits the middle, will give 390 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.000 you four or five opinions, kind of split the midil 391 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:02.680 and say, I kind of stand here, but he'll give 392 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:03.799 you all the sides, right. 393 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:04.200 So I like that. 394 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:05.720 He's not the only theologian, but he's a good one 395 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.319 from the twentieth century. And so I'll give that one away. 396 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:09.720 And I had somebody ask, how came you always give 397 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:10.119 this away? 398 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:13.440 Because he just died. That's why. 399 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:15.839 Yeah, I didn't give it away a lot a lot 400 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.440 because people fail. And he's kind of recognizing the frailty 401 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:25.319