1 00:00:00,020 --> 00:00:04,700 Ejaaz: Over the last eight weeks, Anthropic shipped more products than companies do over the entire year. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,360 Ejaaz: Eight new features that completely replace OpenClaw. Claude Cowork that automates 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,420 Ejaaz: your desktop work, Claude Cowork that reviews and edits your code, 4 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:14,760 Ejaaz: and just yesterday, they released computer use. 5 00:00:15,020 --> 00:00:19,240 Ejaaz: Claude can now access and operate your entire computer. That means any file, 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,320 Ejaaz: any tool, any app Claude can access and intelligently operate, 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,280 Ejaaz: your own digital worker that lives on your computer. 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,260 Ejaaz: Each of these features individually are great, but collectively they form something much more powerful. 9 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:35,060 Ejaaz: A new AI native operating system, maybe we call it Claude OS, 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,200 Ejaaz: that competes directly with Apple Mac OS and Windows. 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,660 Ejaaz: Claude is now no longer a chatbot or an LLM. 12 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:45,960 Ejaaz: It has become an entire AI operating system and that is much more powerful than 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,980 Ejaaz: anything we've seen before. 14 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:50,260 Josh: There's a few like, oh my god, I can't believe it could do this moments that 15 00:00:50,260 --> 00:00:51,340 Josh: have happened fairly recently. 16 00:00:51,540 --> 00:00:54,360 Josh: One of them is when it took over my browser for the first time. 17 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:58,100 Josh: I'll never forget the moment where suddenly a browser opens up my screen and 18 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:01,680 Josh: pages start opening and an AI starts interfacing with the system on my machine. 19 00:01:01,860 --> 00:01:05,140 Josh: And that just happened again yesterday when for the first time the AI took my 20 00:01:05,140 --> 00:01:09,040 Josh: cursor on my display, moved it around, clicked on things, changed my window 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,920 Josh: sizes, moved sliders around. It actually took over. 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,120 Josh: It reached through the computer and started doing things on my desktop. 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,700 Josh: It was unbelievable. And I know that people who use OpenClaw, 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Josh: they're like, we've had this for months and weeks and like for a very long time. 25 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:24,720 Josh: But this works with all of the infrastructure that I already have and that I 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,900 Josh: trust. It's very cool and it's very powerful. 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,940 Josh: There's essentially no limit to the possibilities in which it could do when 28 00:01:29,940 --> 00:01:31,340 Josh: it comes to engaging with your machine. 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,080 Ejaaz: It is very slow. It's a little bit clunky, but this is the worst this feature is ever going to be. 30 00:01:36,220 --> 00:01:40,640 Ejaaz: And the crazy part is you can give Claude access to anything on your computer, 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:46,500 Ejaaz: even if it is a work portal or if it is a email or Slack or calendar, 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,040 Ejaaz: it can now do things autonomously and intelligently for you, 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,320 Ejaaz: which is a massive jump up from Claude Cowork or anything that we've seen before 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Ejaaz: which has been limited by apis or connectors or plugins 35 00:01:56,620 --> 00:02:00,340 Ejaaz: This is Claude looking at the screen and operating just like you would as a human. 36 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:03,260 Josh: You could be anywhere in the world and you could text Claude through dispatch 37 00:02:03,260 --> 00:02:06,960 Josh: and it will actually use your computer and it can do anything. 38 00:02:07,020 --> 00:02:10,920 Josh: If you wanted to edit a photo, you could have it open up Photoshop and drag the sliders. 39 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,340 Josh: If you wanted to create you a playlist on Spotify, it can open up your Spotify 40 00:02:14,340 --> 00:02:16,160 Josh: window and create a playlist for you. 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,800 Josh: It's also important to note how this works because it takes a little while before 42 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,000 Josh: you actually get to this point. 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,180 Josh: What it will do prior to this when you ask it something is try to sift 44 00:02:24,180 --> 00:02:27,120 Josh: through the connectors that you already have with the 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,260 Josh: cloud application so if you want it to interface with slack 46 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:34,100 Josh: or if you want to interface with google drive or your email or your calendar 47 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:38,880 Josh: those are all plugins and connectors that you can add to the cloud desktop application 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,600 Josh: that allows it to interface much quicker than that if there are no connectors 49 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,920 Josh: if there are no connected accounts then it will defer to actual full computer 50 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:48,380 Josh: use where it takes over your mouse it takes over the keyboard it's 51 00:02:48,380 --> 00:02:53,140 Ejaaz: Very impressive to just see an ai I maneuver my laptop and screen without me even touching it. 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,380 Ejaaz: I just want to pay attention now to the speed of execution that Anthropic has 53 00:02:58,380 --> 00:03:00,500 Ejaaz: gone on, because this shouldn't be understated. 54 00:03:00,740 --> 00:03:04,520 Ejaaz: They've shipped all these features which allow and have led up to computer use. 55 00:03:05,050 --> 00:03:08,090 Ejaaz: Eight weeks. Take a look at this crazy timeline. 56 00:03:08,430 --> 00:03:11,850 Ejaaz: So eight weeks ago, they shipped something called Claude Cowork, 57 00:03:12,090 --> 00:03:13,490 Ejaaz: which you're seeing on the screen right now. 58 00:03:13,590 --> 00:03:17,130 Ejaaz: And it basically automates a bunch of stuff on your desktop. 59 00:03:17,210 --> 00:03:20,490 Ejaaz: But it's different from computer use because it requires plugins, 60 00:03:20,670 --> 00:03:24,950 Ejaaz: it requires connectors, it requires different access and permissions to tools. 61 00:03:25,150 --> 00:03:28,990 Ejaaz: Computer use is different because it sees the screen like a human would, 62 00:03:29,090 --> 00:03:31,190 Ejaaz: it moves the mouse like a human would. 63 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:37,090 Ejaaz: Then a few weeks later, it released a marketplace for enterprise SaaS tools 64 00:03:37,090 --> 00:03:39,250 Ejaaz: released just for enterprise companies. 65 00:03:39,530 --> 00:03:43,150 Ejaaz: And the idea here is they can access any enterprise tool or service, 66 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:48,430 Ejaaz: such as a legal Zoom or a legal plugin and do all that contractual work for them. 67 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:52,670 Ejaaz: And that resulted in a bunch of stocks completely tanking. 68 00:03:52,730 --> 00:03:56,690 Ejaaz: I remember when the legal plugin was released, it resulted in a 35% drop in 69 00:03:56,690 --> 00:04:01,150 Ejaaz: the major legal stocks within the hour of them announcing it on X, which is pretty insane. 70 00:04:01,430 --> 00:04:04,270 Ejaaz: Then a few weeks later after that, they released Claude Code Review, 71 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:06,430 Ejaaz: which was like a security tool for your Claude Code. 72 00:04:06,570 --> 00:04:09,930 Ejaaz: They then released Claude Remote Control, which allowed you to text Claude. 73 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:14,090 Ejaaz: They then released Computer Use, which was funneled by this company called Vercept, 74 00:04:14,170 --> 00:04:15,450 Ejaaz: which they acquired only four weeks ago. 75 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:18,150 Ejaaz: The point is, they have been on an absolute blitz. 76 00:04:18,450 --> 00:04:23,150 Ejaaz: And it's crazy how they've created this open Claude Killer in such a short time. 77 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:26,610 Josh: Yeah. So for a lot of companies, we can really only judge them on their product 78 00:04:26,610 --> 00:04:29,450 Josh: velocity, how fast they're able to ship new and noteworthy features. 79 00:04:29,550 --> 00:04:34,090 Josh: And hearing the fact that Claude Cowork is eight weeks old is like pretty insane. 80 00:04:34,330 --> 00:04:37,950 Josh: Eight weeks is not a long time. And in eight weeks, we went from launching the 81 00:04:37,950 --> 00:04:40,950 Josh: research preview of Cowork to full computer desktop use. 82 00:04:41,130 --> 00:04:44,650 Josh: So eight weeks from now, you have to imagine not only will all these features be 83 00:04:45,020 --> 00:04:49,400 Josh: incredibly better than they are today, but there will be far more of them available. 84 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,940 Josh: The chart that we have on screen here, I guess it's comparing OpenClaw to ClaudeCowork. 85 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,220 Josh: And as we're comparing these two 86 00:04:55,220 --> 00:04:58,180 Josh: charts, you'll notice that the core functionality is basically the same. 87 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,300 Josh: It controls your computer, you can message from your phone, you can message from chat apps. 88 00:05:01,460 --> 00:05:05,480 Josh: The difference lies within the enterprise and the tools feature set, 89 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,560 Josh: where enterprise integration, security, governments, none of these are going 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,180 Josh: to actually use the OpenClaw system because of a lot of security concerns. 91 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,740 Josh: Anthropic, as we know, is built for enterprise solutions. So a lot of companies 92 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:18,800 Josh: are going to be trusting this a lot more. 93 00:05:18,980 --> 00:05:22,060 Josh: A lot of companies are going to trust the fact that Anthropic will implement 94 00:05:22,060 --> 00:05:23,800 Josh: this more securely, more effectively, 95 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:27,160 Josh: and more in a way that's just easier for an enterprise to use. 96 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:29,880 Josh: Or if you're just the average user, easier for you to use because you already 97 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,680 Josh: have all this downloaded on your phone and on your desktop application. 98 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:37,440 Ejaaz: And if we remember, it was only, I think, four weeks ago that OpenAI acquired 99 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,240 Ejaaz: OpenClaw. and presumably they did it to build a very similar thing to what Anthropic 100 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,060 Ejaaz: just released over the last eight weeks. 101 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:47,180 Ejaaz: It's pretty crazy that Anthropic out-shipped them. But to your point, 102 00:05:47,460 --> 00:05:50,720 Ejaaz: I think Anthropic didn't get engaged with OpenClaw in any way. 103 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,440 Ejaaz: They actually banned a lot of OpenClaw users from using OpenClaw with Claude 104 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Ejaaz: because they built their own thing and it's just safer, easier, 105 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,100 Ejaaz: and probably cheaper to use. If you have a Pro or Mac subscription, 106 00:06:01,140 --> 00:06:02,380 Ejaaz: you now get access to this. 107 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:06,580 Ejaaz: It's only functional on macOS for now, but presumably it becomes Windows. 108 00:06:06,860 --> 00:06:11,900 Ejaaz: Speaking of macOS, and Windows, there is a bigger plan that was revealed to 109 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:14,380 Ejaaz: me yesterday when they launched this feature, Josh, which is... 110 00:06:14,660 --> 00:06:18,280 Ejaaz: If I step away for a second and look at what Anthropik has built, 111 00:06:18,340 --> 00:06:21,880 Ejaaz: they've built an LLM that can code for you, that can speak to you, 112 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:25,400 Ejaaz: that can monitor and use your desktop, that can use your browser for you. 113 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,740 Ejaaz: It sounds like a new AI operating system. 114 00:06:28,940 --> 00:06:33,500 Ejaaz: So I can't help but think that Anthropik's grand plan isn't to build the best LLM. 115 00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:39,620 Ejaaz: It's to build a brand new AI operating system that might compete directly with Windows or Mac OS. 116 00:06:39,980 --> 00:06:42,900 Josh: Yeah, well, they're doing it without directly saying it. I admire OpenAI for 117 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:45,820 Josh: the fact that they've been saying for years now that their sole intention is 118 00:06:45,820 --> 00:06:47,440 Josh: to build an AI operating system. 119 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,020 Josh: They want the operating system for your entire life. There wasn't really a blueprint for that. 120 00:06:51,180 --> 00:06:54,720 Josh: No one really knew quite what that would look like until OpenClaw came around 121 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,180 Josh: and showed people that, wow, this claw infrastructure is actually kind of cool. 122 00:06:58,280 --> 00:06:59,720 Josh: It takes the core components of a computer. 123 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:02,780 Josh: It has the memory. It has the processing. It has storage. 124 00:07:03,060 --> 00:07:06,380 Josh: And it applies it to an AI agentic system. 125 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Josh: And I think once that OpenClaw blueprint became real, once that claw blueprint 126 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,620 Josh: became real, A lot of companies are now just racing to do that. 127 00:07:13,780 --> 00:07:17,480 Josh: So now Anthropic, without explicitly saying it, is very much building the Anthropic OS. 128 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,380 Josh: You have all of their functionality built into one application on your desktop. 129 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,700 Josh: It's now working with your phone. They're planning to just integrate more and 130 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:26,260 Josh: more into this. OpenAI has been trying to. 131 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,760 Josh: They have clearly been behind because Anthropic has been shipping so quickly recently. 132 00:07:30,980 --> 00:07:34,560 Josh: And then we have OpenClaw, which feels like the open source Linux version. 133 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,120 Josh: So if I had to pin each one of these companies to something more relatable today, 134 00:07:38,340 --> 00:07:42,460 Josh: it's probably OpenClaw is kind of like Linux. It is universal, open source. 135 00:07:42,660 --> 00:07:46,000 Josh: It is core infrastructure that a lot of people will build on because it is 136 00:07:46,340 --> 00:07:49,200 Josh: Stable and open source and you have 137 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,160 Josh: full control over that and then there's anthropic which is probably 138 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,840 Josh: closer to microsoft i feel and then open ai and 139 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,980 Josh: chat gpt are close to apple they have the hardware angle 140 00:07:57,980 --> 00:08:01,440 Josh: incoming they're working with the apple designer johnny ive but each one of 141 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Josh: these is kind of working to build their own operating system and it's actually 142 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,560 Josh: working fairly well and you're seeing the early signs of it where it's starting 143 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,740 Josh: to take over and kind of consume the existing mac operating system that we're 144 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:14,960 Josh: using and then i'm sure there is certainly a plan to even displace that? 145 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,060 Ejaaz: Yeah, so we have this cool visual here, which shows the Claude OS stack as it exists today. 146 00:08:20,220 --> 00:08:24,940 Ejaaz: You've got the intelligence, which is basically the model called 4.6 Opus and Sonnet. 147 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,280 Ejaaz: You've got the developer stack, which is called code. You've got the desktop, 148 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:31,560 Ejaaz: which is now co-work and the new feature they released yesterday, computer use. 149 00:08:31,740 --> 00:08:35,620 Ejaaz: They've got mobile via dispatch, so you can text Claude and a bunch of other 150 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:38,940 Ejaaz: things and tooling MCP, which creates this entire operating system. 151 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:42,880 Ejaaz: I actually kind of disagree with you on Anthropic or Claude being like Windows, 152 00:08:43,220 --> 00:08:46,200 Ejaaz: I think it's probably more like Apple for one specific reason, 153 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,240 Ejaaz: which is they seem to be leaning hard into the marketplace, which suggests to 154 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,900 Ejaaz: me that Anthropic might release their own app store with a range of different 155 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:56,020 Ejaaz: plugins that Claude can get access to. 156 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,280 Ejaaz: Because one thing that computer use, this new feature allows, 157 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:04,860 Ejaaz: is developers to build an app for computer use specifically that they can launch 158 00:09:04,860 --> 00:09:09,680 Ejaaz: on Anthropic's hypothetical app store and give access to the 19 million daily 159 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:11,940 Ejaaz: Claude code users which use these different tools. 160 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:14,560 Ejaaz: So that distribution, I think, is very attractive. 161 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Ejaaz: And that's the same kind of attractive distribution that Apple created back in the early days. 162 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:22,960 Josh: And what's funny is the market demand is very much reflective of this in terms 163 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,220 Josh: of daily active users, but also in terms of money. 164 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,460 Josh: Now, there's been a lot of rumors recently that these companies are going to go public soon. 165 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:34,500 Josh: And we kind of had a dry run of what that looks like through this weird company called 166 00:09:34,810 --> 00:09:38,530 Josh: VCX. Now, there's a venture fund named Fundrise. 167 00:09:38,690 --> 00:09:42,370 Josh: And what they did is they took their private shareholdings that they have in 168 00:09:42,370 --> 00:09:46,270 Josh: Anthropic, in OpenAI, in SpaceX, in Databricks, and a few other companies, 169 00:09:46,430 --> 00:09:48,630 Josh: and they listed it publicly on the stock exchange. 170 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:52,730 Josh: That was listed a week ago for about $34 was the IPO price. 171 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:58,550 Josh: This morning, it traded at $312 per share. That's a 15 times return on investment 172 00:09:58,550 --> 00:10:00,210 Josh: over the course of five days. 173 00:10:00,450 --> 00:10:04,210 Josh: So clearly there is an unbelievable amount of demand for it. 174 00:10:04,650 --> 00:10:07,270 Josh: And if you run the map on these numbers, it's pretty interesting. So 175 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:13,000 Josh: It has a NAV of $19 per share, and this morning it traded at $312 per share, 176 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:19,720 Josh: which means the market is valuing a fund, which has $650 million in assets, at $5.8 billion. 177 00:10:20,300 --> 00:10:24,620 Josh: That's an eight times premium on the assets held in the fund because people 178 00:10:24,620 --> 00:10:30,000 Josh: are so unbelievably desperate for exposure to these assets, to Anthropic, to OpenAI. 179 00:10:30,220 --> 00:10:33,960 Josh: They want to be invested in the stock of the future. And the problem with this 180 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,660 Josh: alignment conversation, particularly in the case of Anthropic, 181 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:41,180 Josh: is they're so focused on alignment, on everything but financial alignment, right? 182 00:10:41,260 --> 00:10:43,700 Josh: It's like, if you want true and total alignment with the mission, 183 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Josh: there needs to be some sort of vested interest that people can take in it. 184 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:48,480 Josh: And that very clearly feels like an IPO. 185 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:51,200 Josh: I just don't know why they're taking their sweet time doing it. 186 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,680 Josh: And what we can do is we can reflect this market sentiment on the IPO that's 187 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:57,420 Josh: coming possibly later this year, 188 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,700 Josh: possibly early next year, through our friends over at Polymarket, 189 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,420 Josh: who actually have a market built just for this, which is a test to see what 190 00:11:05,420 --> 00:11:09,160 Josh: the anthropic ipo closing market price will look like on the day that it does 191 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:14,580 Josh: ipo and it's pretty high there's an 82 chance it closes over 600 billion dollars 192 00:11:14,580 --> 00:11:16,080 Ejaaz: What it is right now. 193 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,040 Josh: Twice what it is right now which means there's a lot of upside there's 194 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,700 Josh: a lot of excitement around anthropic and 195 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:24,540 Josh: you can see the chart has been trending upwards for a little while we have a 196 00:11:24,540 --> 00:11:27,260 Josh: similar one with open ai and it appears as if open 197 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:30,260 Josh: ai is going to be even larger than anthropic by 30 198 00:11:30,260 --> 00:11:33,560 Josh: to maybe 50 percent so it's funny while we sit here 199 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:36,920 Josh: saying how anthropic has so much growth the market still very much believes 200 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,620 Josh: that open ai is these larger company by a fairly significant margin and they 201 00:11:40,620 --> 00:11:46,560 Josh: have the average ipo closing market cap at around 952 billion dollars just shy 202 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:50,680 Josh: of a trillion so these are going to be absolutely massive launches the only 203 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:52,160 Josh: question is when they're going to get here 204 00:11:52,530 --> 00:11:56,190 Josh: And we'll keep our eye on it and we will keep you posted on the progress towards 205 00:11:56,190 --> 00:11:58,310 Josh: that. Thank you, Polymarket, for sponsoring this section of the show. 206 00:11:58,490 --> 00:12:03,070 Ejaaz: And that brings us to the end of the episode. This product and feature is very new. 207 00:12:03,350 --> 00:12:07,090 Ejaaz: Computer use isn't probably recommended to everyone. Don't give Claude access 208 00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:08,730 Ejaaz: to your entire computer just yet. 209 00:12:09,070 --> 00:12:13,930 Ejaaz: Use small, subtle tasks to see if it actually works like we did and showed you today on the episode. 210 00:12:14,210 --> 00:12:17,030 Ejaaz: We hope you enjoyed it. If you are watching this on YouTube, 211 00:12:17,290 --> 00:12:20,830 Ejaaz: please like and subscribe and turn on notifications. 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I think everyone will be surprised 221 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:56,210 Josh: whether or not you use open claw. I think... 222 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:59,670 Josh: Applying this to your personal computer changes things because I'm one of the 223 00:12:59,670 --> 00:13:01,590 Josh: people that does have an OpenClaw set up. 224 00:13:01,710 --> 00:13:05,290 Josh: I have my Claw desktop application running with co-work on it all the time. 225 00:13:05,330 --> 00:13:08,990 Josh: I've been using this Dispense feature and there's a place for both. 226 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:13,330 Josh: So I think people who are OpenClaw power users are going to watch this and probably laugh at it. 227 00:13:13,370 --> 00:13:17,830 Josh: But I wouldn't shy away from the fact that personal computer use versus your 228 00:13:17,830 --> 00:13:21,090 Josh: kind of workstation that you've set up for OpenClaw is a very big difference. 229 00:13:21,250 --> 00:13:25,770 Josh: And also the impact that it has in the fact that Anthropic has so many users 230 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:28,190 Josh: that are non-technical, that just want to use AI. 231 00:13:28,430 --> 00:13:31,790 Josh: This is incredibly easy for them to set up. And the desktop application is great. 232 00:13:31,950 --> 00:13:36,050 Josh: It has the chatbot, it has co-work, and it has code all built in under one roof. 233 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:39,330 Josh: And this sounds like a paid show. It's not. I wish they would sponsor us. 234 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:40,990 Josh: It's actually just what I use every single day. 235 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:44,410 Josh: So it's a good product that's worth trying because it's very reflective of what 236 00:13:44,410 --> 00:13:46,950 Josh: the future is going to look like, right? It's like, currently we're typing on 237 00:13:46,950 --> 00:13:48,210 Josh: our computers, we're clicking things. 238 00:13:48,530 --> 00:13:52,750 Josh: Currently we're far faster than Claude is. But there's a world in the not-so-distant 239 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:54,330 Josh: future where that is no longer true. 240 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:57,310 Josh: And once that's not true, it unlocks a lot of really powerful use cases. 241 00:13:57,410 --> 00:14:00,150 Josh: So it's fun to try it now to get an early glimpse of the future. 242 00:14:00,270 --> 00:14:04,010 Josh: And even though it's slow and it's a little clunky, it's still worth experimenting with. 243 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:07,250 Josh: That way you could stay right on the edge with us as we cover all of the news 244 00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:09,170 Josh: about frontier AI and technology. 245 00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:12,590 Josh: So like you just said, thank you guys again for joining us, for sharing this 246 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:15,530 Josh: with your friends, for being so supportive and writing amazing things in the comments. 247 00:14:15,630 --> 00:14:19,490 Josh: I have not been able to answer all of them, but try our best to at least read 248 00:14:19,490 --> 00:14:22,370 Josh: them and just share some gratitudes with you as well. 249 00:14:22,490 --> 00:14:25,230 Josh: So thank you so much for watching and we'll see you guys in the next episode. 250 00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:25,870 Ejaaz: See you guys.