Meeting an Uncertain World | A Voices of Emergence Listening Circle

We gathered for an online community gathering, bringing together podcast guests and members of our wider community for a relational, unscripted conversation.

This was a space for presence, listening, and shared sensemaking in a time marked by uncertainty, grief, technological acceleration, geopolitical instability, and deep questions about what kind of humans we are becoming.

Across voices from Europe, the Middle East, the Americas, and beyond, we explored:

• How to stay grounded as systems unravel
• The difference between transformation and capacity building
• Pain as a life force rather than something to bypass
• AI as a tool that requires symbolic literacy and embodied discernment
• The need for culture, community, art, and practice that can hold real pressure
• Why regeneration must include soil, body, psyche, and social fabric
• How to move from ideas into lived action without collapsing into urgency

This gathering reflects the heart of Voices of Emergence: a living field of conversation where depth, responsibility, and humanity come before certainty or solutions.

With podcast guests:

Canay Atalay, Carl Hayden Smith, Ewa Pasternak, Ida Faldbakken, Lisanne Buik, Lucimara Letelier, Mattias Måhl, Monika Jiang, Pamela von Sabljar, Samina Vabo Ansari, Silke von Brockhausen, Timothée Brès, Tom Mansfield, Virginia Vigliar

00:00 – Welcome & Opening the Field
01:03 – Why This Gathering: Presence Over Performance
01:46 – Winter, Slowness, and Holding Multiple Temporalities (Pamela)
06:44 – Liminal Intelligence and the Call to the “Impossible” (Ewa)
14:32 – Pain, War, and the Alchemy of Courage (Samina)
29:18 – Voice, Authorship, and Humility in Uncertain Times (Ida)
34:26 – AI, Consciousness, and the Risk of Symbolic Overreach (Carl)
48:00 – Grounding the Conversation: Body, Breath, and Listening
51:13 – Care as Practice and Community as Verb (Monika)
56:51 – Relevance, Opacity, and Creative Pace (Virginia)
01:00:08 – Composting Pace, Leadership, and Regenerative Work (Thomas)
01:07:19 – Self-Validation, Embodiment, and Strength (Canay)
01:17:19 – Soil, Memory, and Regeneration from the Global South (Lucimara)
01:27:40 – Masculinity, Polarity, and Grounded Communities (Timothée)
01:41:41 – Bearing Witness from a Conflict Zone (Silke)
01:52:30 – Slowing Down, Parenting, and Rooting Community (Matti)
01:56:32 – Ethics, AI, and the Space of Not-Knowing (Lisanne)
02:05:00 – Participant Reflections & Emergent Themes
02:12:58 – Capacity Over Transformation
02:16:03 – Closing Reflections & Gratitude

Hosted by Alex de Carvalho and Rudy de Waele, Voices of Emergence brings together thinkers, builders, and creators exploring how new systems of meaning, leadership, and regeneration are emerging through us: voicesofemergence.com

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Creators and Guests

Host

Alex de Carvalho

Alex is a bridge-builder exploring how inner transformation and mythic intelligence shape outer change. He draws on a background in corporate leadership, ritual practice, and depth psychology to hold soulful, system-aware conversations for a new era.

Host

Rudy De Waele

Rudy is a futurist, regenerative leadership guide, and ecosystem weaver with over two decades of experience at the intersection of technology, consciousness, and systems change. He co-founded Unconditional Men and RegenerateX, and brings deep presence and visionary clarity to the Voices of Emergence podcast.

Guest

Canay Atalay

Founder of RX Innovation Institute, RegenerateX, The Heroines, and host of “Regenerative Innovation with Canay” at Harvard Business Review. Canay advises C-level leaders and boards on building future-ready strategies and cultures rooted in regenerative innovation, AI, and life-centered design.

Guest

Carl Hayden Smith

Carl Hayden Smith is the Director and Founder of the Museum of Consciousness, Co-founder of the Cyberdelics Society and former Head of Research, Director of the Learning Technology Research Centre (LTRC) and Principal Research Fellow at Ravensbourne University London.

Guest

Ewa Pasternak

One minute preview Full Interview Ewa Pasternak CEO, The Liminal Company EWA PASTERNAK is an entrepreneur and researcher with 15 years of experience in applying principles of system thinking and quantum physics on leadership, organizations, and spaces in between the old and the new (the liminal gap), to surface what's possible when nothing is certain.

Guest

Ida Faldbakken

Guest

Lisanne Buik

My mission is to inspire & enable leaders, investors, organizations and governments to lead AI with grace, to accelerate the path to a regenerative future.

Guest

Lucimara Letelier

Lucimara Letelier has developed expertise in sustainable development and museums as a consultant, trainer, coach, and researcher. She coaches at Ki Culture and provides sustainable development consultancy to museums through RegeneraMuseu. She is a board member of ICOM Sustain (Vice Chair) and ICOM Brasil.

Guest

Mattias Mahl

Rewilding

Guest

Monika Jiang

Monika Jiang is a writer, facilitator, and community builder dedicated to shifting how we understand loneliness. Instead of seeing it as something to fix or hide, she invites us to recognize loneliness as a deeply human experience that connects us all. Through The Oneliness Project, Monika creates spaces and conversations that nurture awareness, belonging, and reconnection with ourselves, each other, and the world.

Guest

Pamela von Sabljar

Pamela is serving as a catalyst for leaders and organizations to be able to create deeper human connection and supporting them to foster the conditions for emergence.

Guest

Samina Vabo Ansari

Drawing from her Afghan-Norwegian heritage and global experiences across Europe, Central Asia, and the USA, Samina has developed a nuanced perspective on building connections and driving change. Her expertise spans social sustainability, cybersecurity law, and global entrepreneurship, areas where she blends knowledge with compassion to create thoughtful, practical solutions. Throughout her journey, Samina has had the privilege of working with organizations like the European Union, UN Women, the World Bank, and NATO, as well as startups and her own entrepreneurial initiatives. These collaborations have focused on economic development, public-private sector partnerships, gender equality, and social entrepreneurship.

Guest

Silke von Brockhausen

Designing Strategic UN Action Plans and Leading Dialogues & Workshops to Amplify UN Impact | 18+yrs UN experience | HDP Nexus & SDG Acceleration | 🌱 Founder of the Regeneration Collective

Guest

Thomas Mansfield

Creator of the Thinking Like Gaia framework and founder of Cards for Life, Thomas Mansfield is a regenerative thinker, ecolinguist, and guide exploring the intersection of language, leadership, and planetary consciousness.

Guest

Timothée Brès

Co-creator of Genesis Xperience, a liminal rites-based gathering bridging somatics, speculative design, and Web3 culture.

Guest

Virginia Vigliar

Virginia is a writer, content curator, and researcher exploring social justice, ecology, feminism and art through poetic lens. Her work is aimed at softly deconditioning from the systems we inhabit, she does this through sensorial essays, workshops, and talks.

What is Voices of Emergence?

Voices of Emergence is a podcast about what’s coming alive in a time between worlds. Hosted by Alex and Rudy, we hold mythic, soulful conversations with visionaries, culture-makers, and edge-walkers who are sensing into the future. From regenerative leadership to inner transformation, we explore how personal and collective emergence shape a more beautiful world—one honest, embodied conversation at a time.