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Lindsay: Welcome.

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Welcome to the Lifting Lindsay podcast.

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Today we are gonna do a little fun fact
Friday, and we're going to revisit a

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topic that I've talked about before,
which is how many sets per muscle group

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per week do you need to build muscle?

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Now you may be thinking, well,
we've already talked about this,

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but we really haven't actually.

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I mean, we have talked
about a portion of this.

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We have TA had this conversation
somewhat, but the conversation that

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we've had previously has been all
about how to optimize and squeeze out

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every bit of muscle we possibly can.

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Right?

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So we've talked about high volume.

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Training and high volume studies and how
they've collectively been showing more

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volume does equate to more hypertrophy.

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Today, though, I want you to think
about in terms of, you know, 0% to a

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hundred percent of the total maximum
muscle gains that you can achieve in a.

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Certain amount of time, I want
you to be thinking, well, how

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many sets do I need to achieve?

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Like 50% or 75% or 80%?

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And I think that this is a
really, really important question.

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One, because oftentimes we are very.

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Obsessed and fixated with kind
of black or white thinking.

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All or nothing thinking.

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We think, well, I need to get, you
know, 20 sets per week on glutes

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to grow muscle, and if I don't
get 20, then I'm not growing any.

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Or if maybe you were doing
five times a week training.

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And you really wanted to build delts
and your delts were getting, 18 to 20

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sets during that time, or maybe even,
you know, 20, 25 during that time,

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and you think, well, summer has come.

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I can't keep going to the gym this much.

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Uh, my children are home now.

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They have tons of activities or are
taking more time, or we're traveling.

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You fill in the blank.

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You name it, you're now no longer able.

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Or want to train five times a
week and you're down shifting

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to something like three.

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A lot of times people who are stuck
in that all or nothing mindset, they

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freak out and they think, well now one,
I'm not going to put on any muscle.

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Um, is it even worth going to the gym?

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Because all or nothing mindset,
it's either five days and or none.

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Right.

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That's not true.

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So I'm really excited to have this
discussion and lay out actually

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what studies show us as far as what
percentage of muscle gain we can

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see depending on, you know, how many
sets we do a week per muscle group.

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So I think that this is a really good
conversation, like I said, to combat

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that all or nothing mindset to help
people understand that there are times

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when you can train four to five times
a week, and yes, you'll more than

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likely squeeze out some more muscle
growth, but how much more, right?

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And is the trade off worth it?

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Because that means.

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More time at the gym, less time
doing these other things that

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maybe, uh, this season of your
life is kind of calling you to do.

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Now, another reason why this, this
came to my mind and I thought it was

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important to discuss is I recently started
a three times a week training group.

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So I have a five times a week program
that's like a gluten dealt emphasis.

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I have two, four times a week
program, one is tailored more

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towards, you know, strength.

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The other is tailored more
towards body recomp and muscle.

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And there's these, these different,
you know, methods that we can

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train towards different goals.

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So now I'm starting this three times
a week program because I've had a lot

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of my app clients reach out saying
some of us, our season of life is that

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we want to train three times a week.

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Maybe they have other goals.

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Maybe they want the strength and muscle
that comes with lifting weights, but they

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also want to run a marathon, wanna do
a triathlon, maybe want to, uh, do yoga

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more, or Pilates or whatever it may be.

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Fill in the blank.

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Or maybe they just.

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Are going through a time in their life
where stress is really high and sleep

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is really low, and, and, and training
five times a week, even four times

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for them is really impacting them
and they're not able to fully recover

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from four or five times a week, but
three might be a sweet spot for them.

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So this is why I started this program, but
I've been getting a lot of questions from

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app users who are interested in switching.

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Now, like I said, some of
them are worried, well, am

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I gonna lose all my gains?

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If I can't go four or five times
a week, then maybe I just should

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take a break and not do anything.

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Maybe summer's coming and I'm
just, I'm just not gonna go at all.

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Well, you don't have to buy into that
all or nothing, but it is kind of

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important to understand that although
we can make muscle and strength gains,

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strength is kind of a different story.

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Strength is actually, we can
oftentimes maximize that with.

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Three training sessions, quality
training sessions a week.

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But typically people want come
to me asking for body recomp.

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They want to see muscle growth,
muscle growth, and strength.

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I've said this a few times, but
I just need to reiterate this.

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Although there is crossover,
they are different.

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Think of powerlifter as strength
training versus hypertrophy

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versus bodybuilder who focuses on.

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Purely hypertrophy.

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So a bodybuilder isn't, they're, they're
excited about prs, but they're not hitting

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the high prs that strength athletes are.

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Because the training is
actually different now.

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Like I said, there's some crossover and
I have that muscle and strength program

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that allows us to do a little bit of
both to get the best of both worlds.

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Um, but they are slightly different,
and that's important to understand.

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So this conversation of sets is going to
be purely speaking about muscle growth.

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So with that being said.

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With these worries that people are like,
well, am I gonna lose all my progress?

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Should I even keep going?

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Well, some people are also like,
yeah, I wanna, I wanna work three

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times a week and, and I want all
of the gains that come from five.

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I'm like, what?

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Well, yeah, you know what I want?

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I wanted to like lose weight
without having, you know, to uh,

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be, have any mindfulness about
my foods without tracking, with

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eating, whatever, whenever I want.

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Yeah, we all want these things, but
sometimes our wants are conflicting.

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Right?

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And then what happens?

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We don't end up hitting our goals,
so it's better to kind of line up.

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Our efforts and what we are willing and
wanting to do with appropriate outcomes,

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and that's what we're gonna cover today.

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So let's dive into what do
the studies actually say?

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Because the studies show that
it's not like what people are

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saying, that it's all or nothing.

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You either optimize every tiny
little thing and you get all

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the gains, or you don't do that
and you don't make any gains.

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That's not what the studies are showing.

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So I'm gonna break this, this
down, what the studies are

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showing into two different groups.

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One, I'm gonna show what studies
are saying about untrained

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and beginners because this is
really important, untrained.

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Lifters or beginning lifters who are in
that first year, year and a half, maybe

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even two, depending on how on and off
or how dedicated they are, uh, how much

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they're actually like training versus
just kind of going through the motions.

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So what amount of sets do they need
versus trained and more experienced

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lifters, because actually their
needs are a little different.

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So with untrained or beginners,
you know what's fascinating?

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If you're looking at that percentage
of muscle growth, you know, zero to a

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hundred percent, a hundred percent is
just maximizing getting every single

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gain, uh, genetically you possibly can.

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Um, manipulating, you know,
training, making sure sleep,

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nutrition, all that's on point.

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Well, you can actually get up to
60% of your muscle growth capacity.

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This is gonna blow your
mind, guys for this.

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Remember, this is untrained beginners
with up to five sets a week.

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A week as little as five sets
a week can get you up to 60%

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of your capacity for
muscle, like muscle gains.

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That's incredible.

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That's incredible.

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And then with untrained beginners,
80% hypertrophy gains with as

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few as five to 10 sets a week.

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That's That's absolutely amazing.

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That's amazing.

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Now with trained lifters.

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It is different.

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Okay.

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It, it is different.

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So we are seeing that 60% of your
hypertrophy gains are going to be, can

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be gained five to 10 sets, and 10 to
20 it appears, is getting about 80% of.

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Your hypertrophy and you can, even with
new studies that have come out with higher

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volumes, they're looking at anywhere
between 15 and 30, really maximizing and

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optimizing and leaning higher than 80%.

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But what is it that you have to sacrifice?

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Well, you have to make that trade off.

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Is the time, the additional time
in the gym worth squeezing out

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a little bit more hypertrophy, and
that's where a lot of people are

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like, do you know what it may not be?

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Why?

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Because what are your
reasons for going to the gym?

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And what's the timeframe?

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Most of us are going to the gym
because we want to be strong.

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Yes, we want results.

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We want muscle, we wanna be
healthy, we want to be agile.

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We want to age well.

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And guess what We're, we're not in
it for a three months transformation,

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although that would be wonderful.

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But the reality is that majority
of us don't experience that.

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Majority of us are
actually in this for life.

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For life.

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So think about that.

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If I'm in it for life, I'm going to
be lifting for the rest of my life.

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do I really need to spend
more time in the gym?

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To edge out another 10% of hypertrophy or
would my time better serve me elsewhere?

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And that's the thing, nobody else can
answer this question except for you.

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But the great thing about it is
that if you need to lower your

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amount of time you spend in the gym,

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I want you to shift your mindset
that it is not all or nothing.

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You can lower your five times a
week training to three times a week

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and still experience good gains.

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So let's just say, let's, let's
give a little context to this.

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Let's just say you're a newbie lifter.

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Maybe you've been lifting
for a year, I would say

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you're still relatively new and
you've been able to really put a

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lot of time into, you know, weight
loss and setting up and establishing

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this routine of going to the gym.

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But life has kind of shifted, and
now you need to lower maybe your four

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or five times a week to three times.

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Well, three times a week.

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We can still easily get around
10 sets per muscle group a week.

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So that means you are still getting about
80% of your muscle gains capacity, 80%.

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You're still achieving that.

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That's a big deal.

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That's awesome.

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And maybe you lost like, you
know, 10, that doesn't matter.

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Are you looking at the gap or
are you looking at the gain?

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What I've gained is time, and
I'm still gaining about 80%

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of max hypertrophy that I can.

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That in my book, along with
many others, is a big win.

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That's a big win.

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So a lot of these conversations that
are had on Instagram, keep in mind when

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people are like, well, you, you have
to be getting, you know, 15, 20 sets.

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You have to be, uh, spending five
days in the gym lifting to get

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those 20 sets in to maximize hyper.

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These people are speaking
in terms of optimization.

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They're also speaking in terms of almost,
that, you know, you have the time, you

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have the energy, you have the want,
and maybe you don't and that's okay.

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That's okay.

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So that's actually why I started
this fitness minimalist group is

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for people who are like, you know.

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I have maybe other goals, whether
that's other fitness goals or

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other family goals, relationship
goals, career goals, whatever.

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There have been times, uh, with my
business that I've had to go from lifting

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five times a week to lifting three times.

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I don't beat myself up.

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I don't say, oh, I'm just, I'm
just losing all of my gains.

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No, you, you just need to practice
that flexibility and pivot.

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You pivot because life is
throwing a curve ball at you.

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Or maybe it's not even
throwing a curve ball.

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You pivot because you're like, right now
I choose something else that will actually

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be a better return on my time for what
I really want out of life right now.

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Okay.

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Let me walk you through
one other scenario.

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Let's say that somebody who
I had a woman write to me and

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she's like, I'm really nervous.

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I'm doing your train with me.

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My train with me group, that's my
personal program is five times a week.

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And she says, now I, I've gotta
switch to the three times.

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I'm really nervous and scared that
I'm gonna lose all my progress.

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Well, what did we just barely
learn from these studies?

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And if you're interested in
reading 'em, I'm gonna include

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'em in the, in the show notes.

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But what did we just
barely learn from this?

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Even those, and, and I'm going to,
make the assumption because this

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woman has been doing this for two
and a half years, I believe she said.

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This is a trained lifter, and she's going
from putting anywhere between 15 to 25.

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I've, I've had some.

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Specialization programs where we
even pushed glutes for a short

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period to, you know, 30 sets, a week.

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She's going from that high volume
to now probably 10, 12 sets.

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Well, what have we learned between
10 and 20 for even advanced?

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You're getting somewhere around 80%.

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So what she's doing is
she is making a trade off.

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She's trading off a little potential,
losing out a, a little bit on some

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muscle growth, but she's still
getting a good, you know, around 80%

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I'd, I'd, I'd say around 70, 80%.

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So she's still coming out on top.

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As far as muscle growth, but now she
has a little bit more time to spend

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elsewhere on what makes more sense
right now for her season in life.

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Sometimes when I hear trainers
talk and they're, they throw out

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the, you have to, you know, be
training five times a week to.

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Maximize hypertrophy.

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Well, that, that may be true.

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It's just one piece of the equation
of hypertrophy, by the way, but

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at what cost to the individual
and is that even what they want?

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We're just kind of making the
assumption that they want that right.

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Maybe they can't.

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I mean, that's actually why I changed
a bunch of things recently in my app

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because I had a program a four times a
week program that people were saying, is

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there any way we can have a four times
a week full body build program where

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instead of, you know, training 75 minutes,
'cause sometimes towards the tail end of.

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Uh, the, the training when we had
increased sets or rest time or

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whatever, training was moving and
getting closer to like 75 minutes.

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They're like, well, I, I don't have that.

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Is there any way we can change it so
that we can be training no more than,

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you know, 45 minutes, four times a week?

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And I'm like, yeah, yeah, we can do that.

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You are gonna miss out on a little volume.

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But do you know what?

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That's actually okay because
the trade off is worth it.

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You're still gonna be getting
majority, 80% is huge.

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You're still gonna be getting majority
of the hypertrophy you can, and like I

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said, the trade off will be worth it.

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So hopefully this, uh, fun
fact Friday of different sets,

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per, you know, untrained or
trained individuals, how much

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hypertrophy can we glean?

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I hope one, it has helped combat
that all or nothing mindset and

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allowed you to kind of maybe release
these ideas that you have to train

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a certain amount of times per week.

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Because really.

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Learning to be flexible with our
training allows us to be more

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consistent over time, right?

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There's this balance of somebody
who's constantly saying, well,

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I'm being flexible by saying
no to the gym every day, right?

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There's that versus
somebody who is so rigid.

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To their five times a week, six times
a week training that they break right.

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Neither one will achieve
life long results.

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The people who get results
and maintain results.

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We want to maintain results are those
that are flexible and learn to pivot.

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So hopefully this learning a little
bit about sets per week, per individual

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per goal, how much muscle gain we can
get from it has really relieved you of

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a lot of those negative guilt, shame
thoughts and help and will help you

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make better choices going forward.

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