Everyone Hates Marketers | No-BS Marketing & Brand Strategy Podcast

I've just launched a new YouTube channel!! The concept? I take real businesses struggling to stand the f*ck out, provide my positioning/branding/lead gen help, and record it all for YouTube. The first mini-series features three freelance marketers (copywriter Rob, ecommerce designer Laura, and non-fiction book coach Vicky).

I hope you'll set aside half an hour to watch it through. Maybe with your morning coffee? Or lunch break? Or evening onion soup? And then, the usual "Subscribe, Like, Share" would go a long, long way too.


In 2023 a weary customer goes missing in the thickly wooded forest of deceased, indistinguishable marketing agencies. All that can be found are decrepit and horrifying websites with ghastly logos, zombified PPC, and the rotting smell of putrid SEO.

In today's horror story, there are no safe spaces in the light; instead, we must summon the Dark Horse and ride into the darkness. Cover your eyes as we speak with John Keating and Jennifer Sloan on how polarizing your brand and slashing away the status quo can lead to spine-chilling marketing that buries your competition alive.

Topics Covered:
  • (00:00) - S3005-Jennifer and John
  • (01:38) - Why are most agencies so fucking boring?
  • (05:31) - What the previous website looked like
  • (08:37) - How market research was done
  • (13:58) - Internal pushback
  • (17:06) - Batman inspiration
  • (20:36) - Anti-hero approach
  • (23:16) - How did John get Jennifer on board?
  • (27:55) - How was the new narrative created?
  • (34:57) - Getting negative feedback on LinkedIn from a client
  • (39:38) - Direct mail campaign pushback
  • (43:50) - What was the mood like during the rebrand?
  • (46:12) - What happened when the new brand went live?
  • (49:53) - Did the agency go bankrupt?
  • (51:52) - Top 3 recommended resources
  • (55:28) - How to connect with Jennifer and John

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Creators and Guests

Host
Louis Grenier
The French guy behind Everyone Hates Marketers
Guest
Jennifer Szczepaniak Sloan
Head of no-nonesense marketing at Dark Horse
Guest
John Keating
Founder and MD at Dark Horse. A bullsh*t free digital marketing agency that cuts through the noise.

What is Everyone Hates Marketers | No-BS Marketing & Brand Strategy Podcast?

The only marketing podcast for people sick of marketing bullsh*t—with zero fluff and 1M+ downloads—voted "#1 marketing podcast worth your time" by Ahrefs. Running strong for seven years and 250+ episodes covering evergreen topics:

* Customer research
* Marketing strategy
* Product marketing
* Content marketing
* Brand positioning
* B2B marketing
* Digital media
* Advertising
* Messaging
* Branding

No-nonsense marketer Louis Grenier serves real, actionable insights every week from industry big names like Seth Godin or Joanna Wiebe to underground talent you've probably never heard of.

Tune in to learn how to stand the f*ck out and market... without selling your soul.