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In today’s episode, we’re diving into the state of tokenization, unpacking what “real usage” actually looks like beyond headlines. Plus, the TradFi onchain vibe shift happening at conferences.
We discuss:
- The suits takeover and the Agora side-event
- TradFi players moving onchain (Bloomberg, S&P, and more)
- “Crypto is fintech now” and the industry narrative split
- State of Tokenization dashboard
- Transferability vs composability: what actually makes assets useful
- Permissioned wrappers, regulatory constraints, and 24/7 markets
- How DeFi can learn from curated collateral standards (Morpho)
- Why real estate is uniquely hard to tokenize
- Better tokenization metrics: wallets, velocity, volume, DeFi deployment
- Perp rails and Hyperliquid catching TradFi attention
- What’s next: how much TradFi volume moves onchain
And more—enjoy
We discuss:
- The suits takeover and the Agora side-event
- TradFi players moving onchain (Bloomberg, S&P, and more)
- “Crypto is fintech now” and the industry narrative split
- State of Tokenization dashboard
- Transferability vs composability: what actually makes assets useful
- Permissioned wrappers, regulatory constraints, and 24/7 markets
- How DeFi can learn from curated collateral standards (Morpho)
- Why real estate is uniquely hard to tokenize
- Better tokenization metrics: wallets, velocity, volume, DeFi deployment
- Perp rails and Hyperliquid catching TradFi attention
- What’s next: how much TradFi volume moves onchain
And more—enjoy
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(03:21) TradFi moves onchain
(04:35) Crypto becomes fintech
(15:57) State of tokenization dashboard
(20:55) Redemption frictions and heatmap
(27:21) Morpho collateral rating lessons
(30:35) Wrappers vs composability limits
(36:55) Real estate tokenization problems
(41:35) Metrics beyond tokenized value
(44:22) Perps and Hyperliquid draw
(52:27) Outro
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Content links:
Tokenization Report: https://panteracapital.com/state-of-tokenization-q1-2026-pdf/
State of Tokenization Data Portal: http://tokenization.panteracapital.com/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(03:21) TradFi moves onchain
(04:35) Crypto becomes fintech
(15:57) State of tokenization dashboard
(20:55) Redemption frictions and heatmap
(27:21) Morpho collateral rating lessons
(30:35) Wrappers vs composability limits
(36:55) Real estate tokenization problems
(41:35) Metrics beyond tokenized value
(44:22) Perps and Hyperliquid draw
(52:27) Outro
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Content links:
Tokenization Report: https://panteracapital.com/state-of-tokenization-q1-2026-pdf/
State of Tokenization Data Portal: http://tokenization.panteracapital.com/
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