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You're listening to the Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Well, hello, howdy,

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welcome to the Bible Guys. My
name is Chris. This is my

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faithful companion. His name is Jeff. And yeah, so sometimes I say

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I'm the Bible Guy and this is
my faithful companion. That's right, that's

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right. Yeah, so today you're
just Chris. By the way. Funny

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little fact, fun little fact.
We took a Bible literacy test at our

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staff, oh, the whole staff. We have the whole staff yesterday.

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It was a hard test, wasn't
it. It was a hard test.

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It was fifty questions, and it
said place place these things in chronological order

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the whole The first like, what
ten questions? We're placing things in chronological

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order from the Old Testament. And
they were like these random names. I

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missed one of those, Yeah I
did. I was going too fast and

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I missed it. Yeah. And
so you did minus four out of fifty

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questions, Yeah, which is what
which is a ninety two percent? Yeah?

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And I did minus seven, which
is eighty six percent, which means

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technically, as a Bible Guy,
it's one A, one B. Yeah,

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so it's designed to be a thirty
percent, So fifteen is the average.

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So we use this. You know, I'm part of another organization to

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help start churches around the country,
and in our assessment center for the potential

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church planters. Yes, they need
to get at least a seventy in order

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to be able to go forward,
right, the planting things. So it's

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on purpose a hard test. Yes, So yeah, I thought you did

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really well. Well. It was
really funny because some of our staff,

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you know, they haven't really been
Christians that long. Sometimes, you know,

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they just didn't become a Christian,
you know, some of them,

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they didn't go to Bible College.
They work in, you know, certain

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areas that don't require teaching or anything
like that. And so anyway, one

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guy, he said, I said, what did you get? And he

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goes eleven And I said, you
only missed eleven. He goes no.

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So it also highlights opportunities for improvement, right, which is really what we

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were doing. So we were trying
to hit a base base mark of this

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is the average score for heritage staff, and then look for an opportunity for

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improvement processes. So let's just find
out where everybody is and take the test.

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It was fun. It's kind of
cool. Yeah, yeah, we

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should put that out on the on
our website or something. Put that little

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test out, see how people can
do. But you know they're gonna do.

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They're gonna use the phone, get
a hundreds because we had to ban

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people from using the phones. Yes, okay, well, hey, we're

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gonna go into a segment today called
guess the word. You just promote me

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to the Bible guy? Yeah,
I gave you some credit there. Wow,

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I just realized what just happened.
Hey, But but again, that's

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just one test, and to be
honest with you, some of those were

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trick questions and I was angry at
them. Well, so I took that

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test before, okay, and only
missed two the first time. So I'm

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slipping. Actually, you say you're
getting worse. Your memory's going. Yeah,

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so I did when I took it, and then I went back and

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did think I knew the answers to
two of so two I did not know

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the answer. Yeah, but two
of them I knew the answers and I

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was going too fast. Yeah,
well, me too, right, because

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I gave everybody twenty minutes I want
you to move quickly. I wanted to

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be at the top of your head. I took notes when we were correcting,

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and and I wrote next to the
question, I said, duh,

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I knew this right right, because
I knew it. So I had I

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had two of those that I knew
the answer, and I got them out

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of order, like, for instance, one of them would put in order.

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I interposed or transposed Shem and Enoch. Oh my gosh, that is

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exactly what I did, and I
know I know Enoch came to question is

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exactly the one I missed. Yeah, I missed that one, which is

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weird because we're talking about those things
right right right. And then there was

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another one I did the same,
exact same thing, right, I transposed

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a thing. But oh well,
anyways, so I'm slipping, is what

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I'm saying. Yeah, well,
that has almost become our segment. We're

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three minutes into it, so let's
hurry up here we go. Are you

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ready? Yes? So we have
a guess the word segment, and which

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means I have words that I'm a
word I'm trying to get you to say,

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and I have five words I'm not
allowed to say in order to get

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you to do that. If you're
viewing us on YouTube, we'll put them

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on the screen. On the screen, that's right, and we'll tell you

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afterwards the words I'm not all right
ready, yes, okay, So if

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I'm talking, I'm using words,
okay. And different countries have different kind

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of words because they have different languages. There you go, and the singular

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of languages is language. There you
go, thank you, the tower of

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There you go. This is the
hard one for words. Yes, so

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so language. I wasn't allowed to
say English, French words, foreigner speech,

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babbel. I wasn't allowed to say
talk, mumble, chatter, baby

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mouth, got it? Okay,
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l A babbel. Yes, but
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didn't ask you to spell it fanatically
the twist there, that's right. Okay,

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okay, boy, this is a
really really hard one. Uh.

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A thing doesn't exist, and then
an architect designs that thing, and then

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the create, then the then the
guys with hammers build it. There you

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go. I need to say the
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blocks, create nice. There you
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babbel. Babel was a babel was
a Babel was a tower tower. There

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you go. I wasn't allowed to
say Bell, Eiffel, Ivory, Pisa,

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or London. Oh that's hilarious.
So she's creating this because we're we're

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talking about tower babble. Yeah,
yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

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And then I've already mentioned at the
very first when we talked about English and

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French and foreign language. Yeah,
okay, when you use language, you

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use it in your speech. That's
right. I was gonna say a president

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makes a speech, talk impediment,
language, words, therapy. I wasn't

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allowed to say any of those.
Good job, man, good job Chris.

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You're the king of that. By
the way, No, I'm not.

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Do you play you play a lot
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at home? I do? Yeah? And you play do you play like

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like word games like that taboo?
No, we have taboo? Yeah,

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yeah, we'll bust it out of
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it first came out, and then
now you kind of know how it works,

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and so it came out like thirty
years ago, yeah, exactly.

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Here we go Genesis. So so
in between where we read with the Noah's

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the Rainbow and all those things,
Noah gets into sin, he gets drunk.

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Here we missed that part. We're
not going to read that. We

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uh got to talk you about.
It talked about his descendants, that's right.

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And it talks about you know,
the lineage and and how based they're

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starting to repopulate the earth. That's
right. And there's lots of interesting things

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about these guys, right, and
it gives their lifespan. Noah lived nine

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hundred and fifty years total, right, So when he was six hundred years

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old and built the thing, he
was just a young whipper snapper. He

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was at his peak. He was
like just entering middle age at that point,

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at six hundred years old, he
say thirty six. Yeah, yeah

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for us. So anyway, so
it goes to those things, and then

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finally it talks about how they all
the Noah's sons developed into these giant families

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that turn into huge clans. They
go north and south and east, right,

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is what happens. And so sometimes
people ask about populations and why do

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different people in different contents look differently. This could be a big part of

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that, right, So here we
go. Genesis chapter eleven says, at

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one time, all the people in
the world spoke the same language and used

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the same words. As the people
migrated to the east, they found a

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plane in the land of Babylonian settled
there, they began saying to each other,

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let's make and harden them with fire. In this region, bricks were

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used as set a stone, and
tar was used for mortar. Then they

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said, come, let's build a
great city for ourselves with a tower that

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reaches into the sky. This will
make us famous and keep us from being

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scattered all over the world. But
the Lord came down to look at the

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city and the tower that people were
building. Look, he said, the

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people are united. They'll speak the
same language. After this, nothing they

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set out to do will be impossible
for them. Come, let's go down

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and confuse the people with different languages. Then they won't be able to understand

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each other. In that way,
the Lord scattered them all over the world

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and they stopped building the city.
That is why the city was called Babbel,

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because that is where God the Lord
confused the people with different languages.

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In this way, he scattered them
all over the world. Isn't that where

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we read too? Yep, that's
it. Okay, that's it. So

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this is a crazy, crazy story. So people who don't believe in God

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would say that this story is absolute
nonsense. This is a fictional fable that

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is invented to explain away why there
are people who are different parts of the

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of the Earth. And people would
have tried to explain away different languages by

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evolution, right, like people over
different parts of the of the planet would

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have developed their own intelligent conversation that
would have developed in their own communities.

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And there are so many different languages
and and and that's just a part of

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a natural evolution, you know,
community settling kind of a thing over over

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millions of years. But even for
the evolutionists, they would take you back

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to there was an original human,
yes, right, which means there was

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a language and eventually there were multiple
languages. Well that's true, right,

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yes, So so man, I'm
not an anthropologist. I'm not going to

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argue that too much. But there
are some very strong similarities to the Bible

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story in the way people in modern
science would say they just don't want the

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just want to dismiss the Bible.
Yeah, but it's a bias. That's

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a great Scientists choose to claim to
be unbiased and they're not. That's what

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I'm saying, so so, uh, everybody has a bias. Yes,

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so anyway, but this but this
story is crazy, isn't it one of

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the crazy stories in the Bible?
Yeah? I think it's. It's a

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funny story. One God looks at
these people and go, what are they

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doing? Because you know, God's
the creator of the entire universe, of

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which you know, the next galaxy
over. They haven't even begun to hardly

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see our light, you know,
or universe. The universe is so huge,

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and so it's just a giant place. And I say, they haven't

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even That was a joke. By
the way, I'm not saying there's life

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and other places. People get excited
about that. But anyways, I know,

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I know, and that's why I
had to I had to roll it

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back. I was making a joke
and it didn't land the way I'm in

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it too. But so, God's
the creator of the entire unbelievably expansive universe,

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and you've got these people in Iraq, modern day Iraq, that's where

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this is at, playing around in
the sand. Literally, they're making bricks,

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they're going to build a building,
and I goes, what are they

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doing? Right? Oh? Great? Remember he wiped out the entire world

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because all they ever thought all day
every day was evil, right, And

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now here they are, they're starting
to build a society, and he sees,

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oh no, in this, they're
going to run amock again. So

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I need I need to slow them
because of their population. They all speak

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the same language, and they've grown
to be this great force. Right,

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and so if they want to build
a tower to the sky, you know

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that what else can they do?
That's right, nothing will be impossible for

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them, is what is what God
says. And so he on purpose slowed

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down human development a little bit here
for the purpose of trying to slow down

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I believe, trying to slow down
the sinful, man centered kind of ideas.

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So we would absolutely, as Christians, we would believe the Bible at

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face value, and we would say, the reason why there are so many

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languages in the world is because it
happened at the Tower of Babel. That's

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correct, and Babel meaning kind of
like the Babbel and the word game ba

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b bla. That's they said,
That's why they call it the Tower of

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Babel. Yeah, So Babylon and
Babel they seem to be the same place

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or connected and babel sounds like a
Hebrew word term that means confusion. Right,

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So that's why that's why he gave
that is it sounds like a Hebrew

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word that means confusion. There are
a lot of words in the Bible that

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sound like another Hebrew word that means
a thing. So a lot of times

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names they won't go right on the
nose that word. A lot of times

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names will sound like another Hebrew word
that means a thing. It's kind of

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a clever, artsy way of naming
things for the Hebrew mindset. So the

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way that Hebrews would name things wasn't
always a direct naming with a specific word.

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They would use words that sounded like
other words, and so it was

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just clever. It's a clever angle. And so this word babble sounds like

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a Hebrew word that means confusion,
which is exactly what God did. He

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confused the language. So if you
think of in Noah's day, let's go

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back pre flood. These people were
living eight hundred, nine hundred years.

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They're populating the earth rapidly. They
can you imagine just the amount of wisdom

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you would have. Do you feel
like you have more wisdom and knowledge today

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than you did when you were fifteen? Oh my word, yes, can

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you imagine if you lived another eight
hundred years how much you would know?

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Right? Right, then, let's
get let's get people like Edison or Tesla

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or Ben Franklin who could not help
themselves, Da Vinci who could not help

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themselves, just tinkering with why do
these things work? And how do you

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do this? Right? For eight
hundred and nine hundred Because these guys died

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at seventy eighty years old, fifty
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live nine hundred years collectively, the
information they'd be able to share with each

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other, the incredible advancements that they'd
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so I probly I believe probably in
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flood than by the time you get
here. Right, It's like they hit

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God hit reset on the planet.
Okay, you're going to start over.

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You're not going to carry a lot
of the collective knowledge of the unit of

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the whole country at the whole world
at the time. You're going to bring

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what you know Hamsham and Jafith.
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some are builders, Some are hunters, some are right and they just

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go back to the foundational things that
humanity needs. Some are farmers, some

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are shepherds. You got Nimrod as
a warrior, those guys. And then

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finally they go, hey, let's
build a city's and they start to collect,

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and God sees the pattern is the
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shorter, but the pattern is the
same. They're coming together with all this

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collective knowledge and that collective stuff he
believed was going to take them into all

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kinds of wickedness. Again, He's
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you have language, it's hard,
it's hard to communicate. Yeah, have

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you ever met somebody who speaks uh? Yeah, an impressive amount of languages?

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Yep, what's the most you've ever
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I knew a guy who spoke eleven
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Yeah, eleven languages. Yeah,
yeahly so he spoke English, he spoke

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you know them. Yeah, so
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he spoke Arabic was his main language. He spoke Russian, he spoke German,

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he spoke Dutch, because those six
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in a tourist area and he could
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And then he had four tribal languages
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and two sub Saharan African languages Swahili, and I forgot what the other one

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was. Yeah, but there was. He had eleven languages he speaks,

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he's fluent in them, and he
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the next next. Well, yeah, that's great. Oh, Spanish,

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he spoke Spanish. That was That
was the other one. I was trying

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to think through that. What the
other one is? Yea, he could.

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His Spanish was kind of a Spanish
Portuguese mix. Yeah, but yeah.

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So when we were in Africa,
we were in the bush. We

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our driver ran over a cow.
He literally hit it right, And turns

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out that this tribe it was taking
the cout of the market to sell it

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so they can get and the guy
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to get money for his mother.
She was dying to get medicine. Right.

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So anyway, so we run over
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pocot, and the guys who owned
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sell you this already? And then
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arguing, and then this Poka driver
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English and and he says he could
obviously he speaks in and he says,

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the driver says to us, roll
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These guys have spears. They will
kill you. And so and so he

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said, they are very upset and
we're trying to, you know, sort

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some things out. So he goes
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point to where like it got so
heated that we're in the car. There's

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like six of us and we're just
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anything other than English. And so
we begin to pray. We're like,

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God, like do something miraculous here, because we're picturing those seven guys stabbing

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our driver, who has the keys
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so we're not safe. That was
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We're gonna back up here. We're
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and we're gonna go up on that
hill and pray for you. So it

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turns out, it turns out that. Uh uh. So we pray.

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We're like, God, just do
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it's a serious situation. Cow's on
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dead, it's just laying there,
you know, we don't know what's happening.

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another vehicle in like four days,
but here comes this motorcycle in cloudy dust,

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you know, coming right toward us. And the guy stops because he

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sees a commotion and he knocks on
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he speaks English and he says,
can I help you? What turns out

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he is a guy who speaks both
English and Pocot and Swahili, and by

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trade he's a veterinarian. I'm not
kidding. We prayed for this, We

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prayed that something would happen that it
itself. It's almost as if it is

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a ridiculous you know, God sent
that guy on the way way before you

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prayed that prayer, way before we
prayed that print, right, so God

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had this InMotion. What turns out
because he was able to, you know,

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bridge the gap of languages. What
ended up happening was. We discovered

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that this guy was trying to,
you know, sell the cow to bring

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medicine for his mom, and he
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our driver was so cheap that he
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isn't worth more than like forty dollars, right, And somehow they were able

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to talk a little bit back and
forth with each other, fighting over twenty

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bucks. They were fighting over twenty
bucks. He was risking your life over

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twenty bucks. Right. Do you
ever wonder how much you're worth? Right?

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That's it, you worth twenty dollars. So we find this out,

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and then the guy who was with
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we all get out of the car. We walk over to the tribal leader

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and don takes out one hundred dollars
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the cow and says, we are
so sorry. And by the way,

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the veternarian said that the cow would
pass away, he would die, so

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he said, so he get into
him and said, we're sorry. And

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so then the travel leader got emotional
and he said, we'll load the cow

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up onder your roofs. You can
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And we said no, no,
no, we don't want it. What

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turns out, he got even more
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now he has the money for medicine. Right, and everything's worked out and

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we have a great story. Was
glorified. It costs a hundred bucks,

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It cost a hundred bucks. Died, We almost died? How did God?

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Did Chris die? And I forgot? We ran over a cow,

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that's right. But the point is
it was the language barrier, right,

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and yet and yet God had sent
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was a veterinarian, and we just
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up. My wife and I talk
about language stories. I got a million

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of these. But my wife and
I were in Casablanca, in Morocco,

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and we went to dinner, and
then we need to get back to the

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UH, to the train station,
because there was one last train leaving Casablanca

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going back to Robot, which is
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cab and the cab driver doesn't speak
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and so we're trying to figure out
and I'm trying so hard. I'm trying

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to use an app on my phone. The language apps were newhere back then.

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It just wasn't working right. I'm
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need to go to the train station. Uh, and we need to hurry.

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Couldn't do it, couldn't do it, could do it. Finally,

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my wife taps him on the shoulder. It turns out she goes, and

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I goes, Oh, we took
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he took off it. We made
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But it's funny. Sometimes you don't
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little bit of Uh. So God
confounds the language, but something beautiful comes

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out of it. And God takes
even the difficult things, and there are

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the bad things that makes good from
them. Rome's eight twenty eight talks about

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that God can create all things,
or caused all things to work out for

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good. What happened is all these
beautiful cultures, this incredible tapestry of language

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and culture comes out of the fact
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all these cultures on one side.
That causes a lot of trouble, a

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lot of wars and racism, all
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purest form. Have you ever been
in a place When I was in Dubai

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a couple of years ago and we
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We brought in key leaders from like
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did some worship songs that everybody knows, and we went into so on stage

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there were seven different languages leading worship
wow, And then on the screens they

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had the different languages there so you
could follow the lyrics up on the screens.

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You just had to follow your language
right while the band was playing,

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and they went into Chris Thomlins,
how Great is Our God? And we

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had three hundred and fifty people in
a ballroom in a hotel in Dubai,

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all singing their own language of how
Great is Our God? Wow? Right,

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And I was just thinking, man, that's like heaven. That's what

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heaven can be like. Right,
It's a little bit of heaven on earth.

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Now in Heaven we'll all understand each
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anymore. But it was a really
beautiful thing to see the cultures and they're

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wearing all their tribal uniforms and outfits
and all that kind of stuff. And

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it was all the different colors and
the joy of the Lord, and it

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reminded me in Galatians. Galatians says, there's no more Jew or Greek.

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So he's talking about, you know, political lines or nationalities. There's no

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more slaver free, there's no more
male and female. We're all one in

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Christ Jesus, and so in Jesus
we can get back to that oneness,

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even though the language barriers. The
way, Yeah, and God tells us

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to go to the highways, the
hedges. He tells us to go through

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Jerusalem Judea to other most parts and
everyone tell everyone, and that includes bridging

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the gap of languages. So God
didn't create it for a permanent division,

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you know. But but it's so
it's a beautiful thing that we should come

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together with different languages, different cultures, everything else. So that's great.

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So okay, well that looks like
our time. So hopefully we'll see you

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tomorrow on the Bible. Guys,