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You're listening to the Bible guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. I love that rolling Yeah,

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it says that they're listening, right, Well, that's pretty great.

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I didn't know if anybody actually listens, right, they play it. It

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says you're listening to the Bible.
That's right, so they I know they

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play it because we get lots of
people who can't, But I didn't know

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if they would listen. If a
tree falls in a forest, does it

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still make a noise? Yeah?
Yeah, well that's the question, right

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right, I mean, would anybody
really be listening had Connor out said it,

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I don't know. That's what I'm
saying. He made it happen.

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Hey, listen up, let's give
me the new roll in. You have

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to listen to something if it's being
played, Jeff, you don't have to.

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Do you ever have your radio on
and not actually hear anything that's being

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said? My mind is twisted right
now. I've just I just think it's

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wonderful. Jersey Brian Reagan, he
goes, he goes where his mind explodes.

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That's funny. Hey, So,
first of all, welcome to the

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Bible guys, and hopefully if you're
listening right now, then you are the

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ones Connor is talking about. That's
correct. Welcome, not your neighbor,

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wake them up, that's right.
We are going to start off with a

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segment that Desiree has called social media
minutes. These are so nice, and

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this is not. This is not
the segment where we try to guess where

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people are listening from. This is
the segment where we are actually taking feedback

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from people. And by the way, she only chooses the good feedback.

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Well, we don't get a lot
of bad feedback. No, no,

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no. Remember that one that talked
about you being ugly. Yeah, well

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there's that one. And then you
know, somebody did say the come on

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the guy that says next to Chris, Yeah, he's constantly saying uh huh

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h I hate that too. Did
they really say that? Yeah they did,

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Yes, they know they did.
Well, nobody said you were ugly.

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I just made something up. Well
I believed it though, because and

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you said something you just hurt You
said something hurtful, you just hurt me.

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I thought it was true, which, by the way, I say,

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I say, uh huh, because
I agree with you. No,

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no, it's me. They were
complaining about me sitting next to Chris and

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going uh huh uh. They just
said it drives some nuts. Oh,

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okay, all right, so you
weren't You weren't making fun of me?

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Yes, all right, because I
because again nobody said you were ugly.

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I was gonna make another joke today, but I decided not to you.

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You just mean no, I was
trying to think of something funny. It

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just okay, let's move on.
Okay, So social media minutes and this

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is actually, uh, there's what. There's three comments here. Uh,

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here's the first one. I find
it amazing that you two are able to

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read a verse and state how it
applies to our lives. Absolutely remarkable,

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says Cliff. That's really nice that
it's by the way. H Again,

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I think I said this just a
few days ago. But that's the reason,

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one of the reasons why I was
attracted and drawn to becoming a communicator,

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because I was absolutely blown away the
first time I heard anybody take scripture

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and make it relevant and applicable and
understandable. Yeah, and I thought that

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was It's amazing. It's one of
the most beneficial things you can do for

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a person. Right. Right.
I was just talking with a professor who

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teaches and works with training seminary students
to be preachers, and we were we

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were laughing about the fact that how
many seminary graduates then come out and sound

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like professors and not preachers, right, And so we were talking about what

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is the point of preaching, And
the point of preaching is to make the

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Bible as clear as possible, to
take God's words and from Heaven down to

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earth and then translate them so hopefully
you're educated enough to be able to understand

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it on a level that others who
haven't studied as long wouldn't know. Right,

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they'd be a master of the content, but then be able to translate

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it so that the average person,
every day person who maybe hasn't become a

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master yet, could understand it easily. Because I believe you can read the

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pages, the words on the page
and basely understand the Bible, right if

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if you understand the right questions to
ask. But oftentimes we get educated pastors

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get educated and then talk like professors
rather than translating it and making it more

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approachable, right. And so I
think that that's been maybe one of the

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hardest things to do is to make
it approachable. The other side of it

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is and we did this for a
while, right was it on when we

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were doing the old podcast HC Daily
when we did the Discovery Bible Study.

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Oh yeah, remember, And we
were just asking a few questions. So

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if you want to be able to
do what we do, so we don't

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prepare these things. We're just reading
on the reading on the page. And

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then we've read a lot of the
Bible lots of times, and so we're

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able to kind of cross the reference. But we basically every time I'm reading

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a pasty, I'm asking what was
to say about God? What does it

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say about people or you know,
humanity? Is there a command to obey?

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Is there a a promise to claim? Is there a sin to avoid?

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Is there an example to follow?
That's really you asked those five or

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six questions, and you can pretty
much read a page of the Bible and

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find a thing, right, Yeah, you can find something like what we're

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doing because we're doing this on a
This isn't deep Bible study. This is

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a devotional kind of a thing,
right, and so making it approachable is

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a big deal. That's awesome.
The reason why talk long is the third

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one I already read before, so
we really have to to do Okay,

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well, go ahead. Yeah.
So the second one is I love your

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podcast. This is from Anna.
So thank you Cliff for your great comment.

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This is from Anna. Anna says, I love your podcast. It's

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fascinating to hear all these things,
like because of Philip's name, he was

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able to reach the Greeks. I
didn't know that, right, Yeah,

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so it's the little things that that's
awesome. He like, So thank you

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Anna. Well, the third one
that you already read, Yeah, yeah,

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I wonder if people are just gonna
wonder what it is so tru to

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just read it real quick. Sure, so this person I read what last

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week? Or I think so because
Desiree didn't realize that you had taken it

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from this one. You actually put
out your phone and read it. That's

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right, right, from an actual
Okay, I'm just an okie who has

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been a faithful listener for a couple
of years now. Scripture can one hundred

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percent change your life. Christian Jeff
do an outstanding job of communicating God's word

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in a fun and informative way.
I cannot begin to describe the impact these

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men have had on me, which
has trickled down to my family friends,

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coworkers. Christian Jeff, if you're
reading this, thank you from the bottom

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of my reborn hart. Thank you, says Alan R. That's amazing,

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which is amazing, which is why
I can see now why you went out

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of your way to find it and
read it. That's right, that's amazing,

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Thank you Alan. Yeah. And
hey, even people from Oklahoma can

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listen. That's right. I get
something from it. Well, he doesn't

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say he lives in Oklahoma. He
just says he's an Oki, which means

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he was from Oklahoma from Yeah,
yeah, he doesn't. Don't have to

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live there to be from there.
Okay, you're from where Youngstown? Okay.

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So, which, by the way, is the according to this famous

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sports podcast, the Grit Capital of
the World, the great capital of the

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world is Youngster. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's just Detroit's got a

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corner on the grit market. Well
yeah, I mean it's your slogan,

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right, Okay, maybe you brought
it here. I did say, Hey,

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it's grit because I'm here. You're
welcome. Well good, it's really

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really nice. Thank you guys for
sharing the nice compliments. It feels weird

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to read them though, doesn't it. Yeah, because it's super humbling,

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well to read them aloud, but
to read them back to the people who

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wrote them feels weird. Well,
you know, I'm just you know,

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the same as you. Right,
it's super humbling. But at the same

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time, it really is. It's
a lot of work. So we recorded

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yesterday. Yeah right, it's like
four hours yesterday, four hours today.

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Sure, that's a big part of
the week, right, And so those

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are the kind of comments that say, hey man, we are making it

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there. It's worth it. It's
worth it to me. So I'm glad

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that you guys are part of that. So we were talking about this passover

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festival of unloving bread. Yeah right, kind of getting tangled up a little

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bit. We know these things and
still have a hard time tracking with it.

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So by this point now two days
from the passover passover would have been

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the passover meal would have been Thursday
night, is that correct? Yeah?

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Yeah, which there, which they're
not there yet, right right, right,

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So they're probably right around Wednesday ish
or Wednesday or Tuesday, because you

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said two days before, right right, yeah, yeah, so it's he's

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probably Tuesday evening. It is probably
when he yesday would have been Tuesday.

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Yeah, yeah, I think today
could have been Wednesday. I mean,

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doesn't specifically say tough, right,
right, we're trying to piece it together,

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yeah, because because tradition holds that
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beginning of the feast, and uh
no, no, the fact, no,

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no, no, he was he
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And then there's events that happened that
we've unpacked, and then the actual Passover,

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which happens from Friday to Saturday.
All these events are leading up to

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that, right. And by the
way, they said we dare not yesterday

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said they said, we dare not
have him killed during Passover because the people

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will riot, right, But it
turns out that they do kill him on

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Passover, Yes, right on the
actual Sabbath, right Passover. So this

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is what we're trying to say,
is we're within a couple of days that

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Jesus getting arrested. That's right,
That's where we are in this last week.

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Now, it's lots of chapters still
left in the Bible, lots of

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verses are left in the Gospels over
this because the Gospels spend a lot of

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time in this last week. So
all of this time that we've all,

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this last teaching we've done over the
last couple of weeks, has been teaching

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in the last week of jesus life
before he is crucified. And then the

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Yeah, anyways, so let's pick
up Matthew chapter twenty No No, No,

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Matthew. Chapter twenty six, verse
fourteen is where I'm at. It

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says, then Judas is Scariot,
one of the twelve disciples, went to

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the leading priests and asked, how
much will you pay me to betray Jesus

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to you? And they gave him
thirty pieces of silver, and from that

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time on, Judas began looking for
an opportunity to betray Jesus. In Mark

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chapter fourteen ten, it says,
then Judas is Scariot, one of the

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twelve disciples, went to the leading
priests to arrange to betray Jesus to them.

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They were delighted when they heard why
he had come, and they promised

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to give him money. So he
began looking for an opportunity to betray Jesus.

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And then in Luke chapter twenty two
says, then Satan entered into Judas

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Is Scariot who was one of the
twelve Disciples, and he went to the

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leading priests and captains of the Temple
guard to discuss the best way to betray

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Jesus to them, and they were
delighted and they promised to give him money.

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So he agreed and began looking for
an opportunity to betray Jesus so they

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could arrest him when the crowds weren't
around. You know, it doesn't really

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give us a lot of insight behind
Judas's mentality. I mean, we do

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know earlier that it said he didn't
care remember when the woman broke the albaster

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box and he said, why wasn't
this money sold for the poor? And

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then he gave us insight there because
it said not that he cared for the

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poor, because he often dipped into
the treasury and stole money from time to

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time for himself. So it's telling
us he's a pretty cold hearted person who

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loves money and was stealing from the
ministry. And even as he was saying,

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you know something to this woman,
he literally could care less. So

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we know that about him, right, but we don't really know, like

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you know, so you know,
was he was he a person who originally

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started following Jesus with the intent to
betray or was it the intent to like

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just get rich, like I'm gonna
get rich here, right? Or or

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was it more like Matthew where he
had this conflicting thing happening with his whole

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life, you know, you know, Matthew obviously loved wealth so much that

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he betrayed his own people. But
then when Jesus, you know, redeemed

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Matthew, Matthew abandoned that life and
and was so thankful for the opportunity to

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be loved and redeemed and forgiven.
So did Jesus have did Judas have a

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struggle with that? And he originally
joined with good intent but then caught up

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with being the treasure of the whole
ordeal with money coming in, you know,

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like what was it? It doesn't
really say but you know, but

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but it does say that Judas was
one who initiated it, right, Yeah,

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Judas started it, not the not
the priests, right, which,

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which, by the way, that's
that could be a piece of new information.

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It's in my mind, it's it's
I can envision Judas being an enthusiastic,

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uh follower of Jesus in wonderment early
on and then becoming disillusioned and frustrated

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because we all joined Jesus with our
own agendas too, and if we don't

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eventually learn to render our agenda to
Jesus, we're going to beet frustrated with

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Jesus too. And so I can
see how there is kind of a moment

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where he finally goes forget it,
it's never going to turn out the way

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I want it, and give up
on the idea of what he thought Jesus

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was. And then at that point, because he is greedy, because he

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is kind of the money obsessed guy, he goes and says, I wonder

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how much I could get out of
this if it's all going to fall apart,

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And clearly he could see he knew
he probably heard the priests whispering and

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talking there's a chance maybe Jesus,
Yeah, And he heard Jesus squaring off

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with him, and he heard Jesus
say they're going to kill me, and

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almost everything Jesus said, everything Jesus
said had happened. Everything he said he

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was going to do he did right. So somehow Jesus pulls off the stuff

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he's talking about, and now it
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So if you've decided you don't think
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thought your disillusion, then Jesus just
sounds suicidal. So you're watching the priests

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whisper over there, you see Jesus
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and they're going to kill me.
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a crowd. You know that pilot
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killing people or whatever, and so
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see the writing on the wall,
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Right, he's jumping ship in this
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how can I ingratiate myself to them
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cash on the side. Right,
I can totally envision that whole thing was.

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I had a person that was important
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with for a long time that for
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our time together was incredible, incredible, And then I just started sensing his

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heart was leaving me, and I
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he determined I was a false teacher
and that my ministry strategy was wrong and

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all these things. Finally I'll come
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where I was like, what happened? And it was like he just flipped

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a switch and going I'm done and
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burn the relationship down right, all
that kind of stuff. And I remember

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going, what in the world,
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people would say he never was with
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We were together, We were The
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he thought the final outcome was going
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the final outcome was going to be
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by it. I was surprised by
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intentions I think were good, and
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get what he wanted and then decided
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not what happened with Judas. I
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happened that way. And then now
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and make a little money on the
side. Yeah, So there's a there's

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a little thing in the New app
or the Life Application Study Bible about Judas

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is scurit and says it's easy to
overlook the fact that Jesus chose Judas to

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be his disciple. With the other
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jesus mission. They all accepted Jesus
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he was talking about dying, they
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and disappointment. The exact motivation behind
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He accepted payment that said, it
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Judas. I guess, But again, I guess that wasn't very insightful other

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than the fact that it's just unknown. Yeah, yeah, but you can

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imagine how it could get to that
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It's been a long time, nothing
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it to. So yeah, and
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this point. Most likely that for
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of silver, that actually he is
fulfilling prophecy. Right, there's an actual

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prophecy that talks about this, and
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by the way, Luke is the
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the Mark passage, and the Luke
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with Then Satan entered into Judas Iscariot, right, So that's the definition of

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the devil made me do it?
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I would say that Satan's part in
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Judas was clearly the one Satan didn't
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Bartholomew or Thomas. So Satan uses
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because of our own desires. So
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desire at that point, yeah,
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Satan understood what was going to happen. I think Satan genuinely believed if he

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could kill Jesus that ended the situation. Well, I mean, yeah,

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I mean, think of the forty
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was wanting Jesus to blow his mission
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Hey, my goal is to you
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you know, thwart the mission of
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sure if Satan understood why. Yeah, I don't think that Satan had a

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concept that the death and resurrection at
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right, So I think Satan thinks
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because if Satan knew that all Jesus
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at Passover, and that would make
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he would not have entered into Judas. Right, So it lets you

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know the limitations of our enemy.
So he is very smart, he is

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very violent and aggressive towards us,
but the reality is he's very He's also

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very limited. Right. God had
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plan. It was like it was
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chess y. Yeah right, Well
you remember the old you know, we're

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fifties, so we remember Carmen the
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So it talks about the battle of
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match, and uh and and this
this isn't old. And by the way,

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uh, it's it's actually a pretty
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then it says, uh, Satan
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for the count, he says,
and then God the Father, you know,

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and he this real dramatic scene.
He says, he begins to count,

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and you know what he does.
He counts, He's counts starting at

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ten. He says ten, and
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They're talking, you're counting the wrong
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you doing? God? Eight?
Right? That's it. That's really funny.

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So, you know, there's not
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else to unpack. I don't think
in this scripture other than just talking about

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the motives of of Judas, uh, you know, the fulfillment of scripture.

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That's one, and then other than
you know, let's not let's be

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weary about, you know, Satan
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like just remember we're teaching on it
next series, right, that that

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our weapons aren't our enemies, not
flesh and blood. That's right, it's

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it's it's the spiritual forces in the
world. We believe that there are active

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spiritual forces that work against us,
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unseen world for our very souls.
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and Jesus talked about it and and
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so that that's a that's something we
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you'll have somebody say, Man,
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miracle, I would believe. I
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then it still requires a certain amount
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himself, he said, even if
even if Abraham and the prophets, what

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do you say? He said?
He said, they still wouldn't believe,

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right, right, right, they
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you've seen everything I can do,
and you stoodn't believe. Right. So,

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you know, as close as sometimes
we get in close around Jesus,

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but we don't actually have a saving
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our sins and turned to Christ.
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close, but we never did actually
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think that's what you have with with
Judas here is. He was close,

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but he never yeah, never embraced
Christ, missing heaven by eighteen inches yep,

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distance between your brain and your heart. That's right. So well,

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hey, that is our time,
so we will see you tomorrow on the Bible goysh