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Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for
every reader.

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I'm Molly Gowler.

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I'm Stephanie Blackburn.

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And I'm Caitlin Madison.

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Welcome to chapter 35.

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We've done 35 big ones.

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Shout out to forever 35 great podcast
name.

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we are talking about the seven year slip
today and we're catching up.

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We're in the throes of summer.

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We've survived a heat wave already.

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We're on a tornado watch today.

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Right now as we record this, that's how
dedicated we are.

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We're.

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We're...

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I left my home, risked my life to record
this podcast.

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I am currently just like completely
distracted because...

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Kelce just came out on stage with Taylor
Swift at the Heirs Tour.

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Paul McCartney's in the audience.

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I was watching various different things
online about it.

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I'm like, I'm over the moon.

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It's just so delightful to watch from
afar.

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But who would like to...

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kick off the ketchup?

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Stephanie needs to update the listeners on
what is going on with the product.

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I think people must be on the page in
there, so I'm just wondering if there's a

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resolution.

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or not.

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Let's see, where did we leave off?

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This time.

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off with you messaging his wife.

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yeah, okay.

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So.

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Monday, I can't remember.

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It doesn't really matter what the day was
and when things happened, but I believe it

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was Tuesday after I was leaving the barn
on our first almost 100 degree day.

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I think I was probably a little bit
irritable because I had been outside and

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it was already 90 something degrees and I
was sweaty.

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And I drove after the barn to the house to
check just to see.

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if I was coming here.

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be able to get down from the ceiling
without any problems.

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So I tested my...

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Actually, did I not text him?

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In my mind, I asked for permission, but
I'm pretty sure I actually didn't ask for

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permission before I sent the text.

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I think I just sent it to you guys to see
if you guys thought it was okay.

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Is that what happened?

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Did I do that?

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feel like I've now become like the editor
of of tone of texts and emails.

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So I think I had just gotten to the point
where I was like, I need to start

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threatening.

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Like there's, there's no point being nice
because I've been nice for months.

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Got me nowhere.

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and so I texted him, this is what I texted
him on.

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yeah.

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Tuesday at 1203.

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Name redacted.

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It's Tuesday now.

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You said you'd finish on Saturday, like
you said the week before and the week

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before that.

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Back over a month now.

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And that's actually as a side note under
undervaluing.

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It was, I think, at two months at this
point.

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I'm done playing this game.

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You're affecting my livelihood.

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If it's not completed by this Friday, June
21st, I will be filing a complaint with

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the attorney general.

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So then didn't hear from him for 24 hours.

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Son screenshot it and sent it away.

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And I said, can you see a picture of it?

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Sorry to talk to you, but it's because
this will look like your picture, but I

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have to ask you, do I feel like you're for
that he has seen us so he's not surprised

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when this happens?

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She didn't reply, but she definitely must
call the police to come to the house of a

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woman who was a crazy person because
then...

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was like, I'm so sorry, I'm not ready.

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Well, today's not ready.

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He didn't want to be ready.

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Yes, he was.

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No, it was ready.

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Last time he had it, he asked the leader
of the conference, he said, excuses, that

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he had left for business.

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Although, he could have been free.

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He said he would.

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And he asked if he could get into the
house just right.

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to it.

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yup.

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And then I believe I said that he can't
hear my phone request.

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So he can't hear me, and he said, could he
go today?

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And I said, yup.

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And that's the real life thing.

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But I don't think he's here to hear my
voice.

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I think that's it.

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like just to like bring the listeners up
to pace like if they're having a hard time

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visualizing this as we've talked about how
we look at months and weeks and time for

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me I can't I can't

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I can't properly explain why this is
working for me this way, but I can't do

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like a lot of things.

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And everything is supposed to be done by
the first week of April when we were going

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to put the house on the market.

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And it's now June 23rd.

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So if you think of it like a clock, he was
supposed to be ready at 12 and we're

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already at, like he is a quarter of a week
here.

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which is also how I think of a clock.

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Three months is a lot of fun.

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Two, I mean, like, I don't think we have
an absolute way to say that yet.

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Like, I think these are, this is really
insane.

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That didn't even occur to me.

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Yeah.

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no, I think at some point you're going to
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this.

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We paid for this to be done by the first
week of April.

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Like.

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I also need the listeners to know that if
you were gonna drive there every day to

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like potentially meet him you would be
driving two hours round -trip every single

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time.

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it's 35 minutes actually from here to
there because I'm going opposite of the

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traffic.

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Okay, but even so, the fact that like, if
you if every time he said he was going to

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come, you got in the car and went.

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actually that just made me remember.

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Nemo and I were going to go yesterday and
I talked to my dad and he was like, maybe

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you should check and see if he did
actually go instead of wasting time by

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driving out there.

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And sure enough, I would have wasted time
if I had just gotten in the car to check.

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Right, and I think the fact that when he
asks like, is it okay if I go today, when

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you are like, we are literally waiting
only for you.

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Like there is no one else we would rather
have inside the house except you finishing

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this job.

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other thing that's important to note is
that the house has been for sale this

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whole time that he hasn't done it.

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And the photos have radiators that like
look unfin...

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like the house, this beautiful house that
Steph worked her tail off on, some of the

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pictures...

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not look half as good as they could
because he is a...

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He's a...

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an unprofessional, he's a dark person,
which is a very true word, may make more

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sense.

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And he just has no respect for you guys.

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He...

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the fact that I just...

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the fact...

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that he has spent the time making excuses
for three months...

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and ignoring your texts and what not to
have, I used to say to my students all the

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time, like, who could have had that kind
of...

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by now.

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You could have been done.

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have been done in March, but he kept
pushing off things and things didn't

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arrive to the warehouse supposedly, or
they went to the wrong warehouse.

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I mean, it's just one excuse after
another.

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But I'm at the point where I'm like
threatening to file a complaint with the

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attorney general is not working.

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I know what I wanted to tell you, gals.

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My mother does not like any sort of
negative news or murdery type stuff, any

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of that stuff.

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So when I handed her the last time she was
here, my copy of Jessica Knoll's prom...

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Thank you.

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Why can I never get the title of that
correct?

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know.

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I think that's where I think we should
start it.

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and not continue.

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And she has been texting me.

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She's a little bit slower than the three
of us consume books.

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She has been loving it to the point where
she sent me screenshots of her own

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sorority house, which what a hoot that is
to see their hairdos back in the 70s.

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But she was at, not at that college, but
she was in college at the time that that

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happened.

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So it's like, anyways.

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if you don't love murdering stuff, you
could still love writing on it because

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it's so easy.

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My update the last week or so...

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I can play it off.

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golf.

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even in the heat wave, I was in a member
guest at Andover country club.

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We had planned this months ago.

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it was one of those things where my friend
Mike, who was hosting us for this member

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guest had emailed the club and was like,
are you guys still having it?

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It's going to be 97 degrees.

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The humidity is crazy.

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It was like the last day of a four day
heat wave.

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And I was like, yeah, we're still doing
this, we're on the clock.

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So I've like, felt in the worst heat I've
ever been in the world.

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Like typically on a day like this, I'd be
like, we can't have this, and take it out,

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it's like crazy insane.

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As a side note, since we're talking about
the number 35, for my 35th birthday we

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went to Palm Springs and I think our first
day there it was 113 degrees.

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That's a lot.

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But you won't probably just went in a
pool.

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You didn't like do a sport.

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was also going to say that it was so hot
that even when we went from these very

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plush daybeds that we were sitting on, the
maybe two feet between the end of the

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daybed and the pool, it was like the
bottom of your feet got

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singed if you weren't wearing flip -flops
from the like couple of steps it took

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before you submerged.

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Okay, well, there was not one dry thing
about me on Thursday.

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It was absolutely repulsive.

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I brought a change of clothes.

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There's like a dinner and awards and
stuff.

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There was a luncheon to start and then
there's dinner and awards afterwards.

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And I brought a change of clothes and like
rinsed off in the shower after the round.

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They had like, like, like, like, like,
like, like,

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love a cold towel.

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That to me is one of like the most
luxurious things that can happen to a

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person.

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the quality of these materials.

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It was like, well, it must be like ready
to eat because everybody was suffering.

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It was bad.

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I didn't sit out the entire rolls, but
there were like two rolls where...

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cause we were playing like a best ball
format.

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There were two holes where like I was
already out of it.

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Like everybody else already had a better
score than I did.

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And I was like, I'm going to sit in the
car and like try and be a person because I

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do not feel good.

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And.

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it was a shot that was part of the whole
team, and we were playing from one to

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five.

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the Celtics parade.

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They moved it off the heat wave.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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So, a million people were able to, and I
love the way our country's running, 64

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people that went running would have been.

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Anywho, so that's like one thing that
happened.

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I made it through.

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We came in fourth place.

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We won some money.

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My brother had the longest putt, 23 feet,
one inch.

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That was pretty sweet.

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It was so, so unbelievable.

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Like, couldn't breathe the air, the sun
was atrocious, the heat was atrocious.

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I'm a huge sunscreen fan, couldn't
breathe, hair is skinned, and I got...

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a bad sunburn, but like it stuck around
for a day or two right below my knee caps

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in the back.

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And I was like, hmm, knee pit sweat's a
real thing.

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And my knee pit sweat just must've wiped
out my sunscreen in that one little area.

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And that's.

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on my entire body.

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I had like probably a fist size below each
back of my kneecap.

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got sunburned out of my whole body.

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you feel that because you sit at a desk so
every time you bend your legs you're

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feeling that that skin is tight.

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00:13:36,078 --> 00:13:37,018
Totally.

242
00:13:37,018 --> 00:13:41,178
So, so, you did it.

243
00:13:41,178 --> 00:13:44,118
Drove home in a crazy way.

244
00:13:44,118 --> 00:13:47,938
It ended up down for you within like 10
minutes when you get home.

245
00:13:47,938 --> 00:13:49,518
It was pretty wild.

246
00:13:49,641 --> 00:13:55,261
The night before another like heat wave, I
feel like stamp is that you go see a

247
00:13:55,261 --> 00:13:56,211
blockbuster movie.

248
00:13:56,211 --> 00:13:58,941
I think we've all done it probably to
escape the heat.

249
00:13:58,941 --> 00:14:01,409
So Wednesday night I saw Inside Out 2.

250
00:14:01,666 --> 00:14:03,606
I feel like this is great.

251
00:14:03,606 --> 00:14:10,026
I think I'm really liking it because it's
all about why you take care of your own

252
00:14:10,026 --> 00:14:11,158
computer, and -

253
00:14:11,158 --> 00:14:17,058
obviously I have a lot of school English
classes and so those are like.

254
00:14:17,421 --> 00:14:19,461
that's my bread and butter basically.

255
00:14:19,461 --> 00:14:21,881
And so I really enjoyed it.

256
00:14:21,881 --> 00:14:27,081
And like the new characters are like
anxiety and envy and embarrassment.

257
00:14:27,081 --> 00:14:28,595
And I was like, yeah.

258
00:14:28,802 --> 00:14:33,422
I was like, do they call us middle school
teachers to like consult on this movie

259
00:14:33,422 --> 00:14:36,662
because it's like so, it probably will
not.

260
00:14:36,662 --> 00:14:38,342
I will say.

261
00:14:38,809 --> 00:14:42,649
I know that puberty is like a serious
thing and that it's not like pleasant for

262
00:14:42,649 --> 00:14:44,929
most people, parents included.

263
00:14:45,129 --> 00:14:47,859
I didn't think it was as funny as the
first one.

264
00:14:47,859 --> 00:14:49,929
Like it didn't have a lot of laughs.

265
00:14:49,929 --> 00:14:52,865
And the laughs that I did have were like.

266
00:14:53,266 --> 00:14:55,976
adult jokes, like, and these other adults.

267
00:14:55,976 --> 00:15:00,326
It was like a mixed bag of these, like,
these are the same kind of these jokes,

268
00:15:00,326 --> 00:15:01,766
these are adults.

269
00:15:02,406 --> 00:15:06,246
And there's just great, like, blackout
moments.

270
00:15:07,066 --> 00:15:08,221
People have worked hard.

271
00:15:08,221 --> 00:15:10,121
that it was sadder than the first one.

272
00:15:10,121 --> 00:15:11,481
Disagree.

273
00:15:11,481 --> 00:15:14,221
You can't beat the sadness of Bing Bong.

274
00:15:14,221 --> 00:15:15,262
Like, I'm sorry.

275
00:15:15,262 --> 00:15:17,102
Do you know what's the difference?

276
00:15:17,102 --> 00:15:18,582
They know it's true.

277
00:15:18,582 --> 00:15:19,622
Nice.

278
00:15:20,022 --> 00:15:24,222
So I want that to be a little bit.

279
00:15:24,365 --> 00:15:29,805
I mean, Inside Out 1 is like probably it
for the Pixar movies, it's probably

280
00:15:29,805 --> 00:15:31,645
Finding Nemo and then Inside Out for me.

281
00:15:31,645 --> 00:15:33,825
Like it's my, one of my faves.

282
00:15:33,825 --> 00:15:36,043
I'd say it's an eight and a half probably.

283
00:15:36,043 --> 00:15:39,313
Where does I just need to know for our
friendship?

284
00:15:39,313 --> 00:15:41,426
where does up land in there?

285
00:15:43,230 --> 00:15:44,826
no, is this the end of our friendship?

286
00:15:44,826 --> 00:15:48,561
For the listener, Caitlin just made her
face like it's not on the list.

287
00:15:48,561 --> 00:15:49,421
know if we listed them.

288
00:15:49,421 --> 00:15:50,301
I'll tell you right now.

289
00:15:50,301 --> 00:15:53,787
I don't like the Incredibles and I don't
really like Toy Story.

290
00:15:53,790 --> 00:15:58,350
That's fine, but up is like integral to
our friendship.

291
00:15:58,809 --> 00:15:59,819
up is very good.

292
00:15:59,819 --> 00:16:03,389
I mean, I quote Doug all the time, the
dog.

293
00:16:03,469 --> 00:16:05,199
I wanted a whole movie about Doug.

294
00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:06,649
I wanted a spinoff.

295
00:16:06,929 --> 00:16:10,889
And I taught a kid that looked exactly
like the kid in up.

296
00:16:10,889 --> 00:16:12,169
Exactly.

297
00:16:12,169 --> 00:16:14,251
It was uncanny.

298
00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:18,173
was just in Stephanie's eyes before
Caitlin answered that question.

299
00:16:18,173 --> 00:16:22,063
gave me a list of all the Pixar movies,
I'm pretty sure Up would make the top 10,

300
00:16:22,063 --> 00:16:25,733
but I can't think of 10 Pixar movies off
the top of my head right now.

301
00:16:25,733 --> 00:16:27,133
So we'll discuss that.

302
00:16:27,133 --> 00:16:28,553
I'll come up with a list.

303
00:16:28,553 --> 00:16:29,633
I'll send it to you.

304
00:16:29,633 --> 00:16:31,753
We can discuss it on the next episode.

305
00:16:31,753 --> 00:16:32,693
Fair.

306
00:16:35,093 --> 00:16:37,293
Played golf again, went to the Cape.

307
00:16:37,293 --> 00:16:38,713
Holy hell.

308
00:16:38,713 --> 00:16:40,467
Summer traffic is real.

309
00:16:41,102 --> 00:16:45,362
I'm a fan of the Pride and the Fun, and I
have been a fan of the Tiva and the

310
00:16:45,362 --> 00:16:45,902
Filmmakers.

311
00:16:45,902 --> 00:16:49,282
The Pride and the Fun, they're just so
happy that I have this ball of fun.

312
00:16:49,282 --> 00:16:52,146
The Filmmakers, they just want to be able
to entertain themselves.

313
00:16:52,353 --> 00:16:53,353
Never again.

314
00:16:53,353 --> 00:16:54,393
Won't do it again.

315
00:16:54,393 --> 00:17:00,693
The rest of the summer, three hours on
Friday, two hours and 45 minutes today.

316
00:17:00,893 --> 00:17:02,393
The weather wasn't good.

317
00:17:02,393 --> 00:17:07,153
It was like misty and overcast the entire
time I played golf again.

318
00:17:07,194 --> 00:17:10,701
goodness Stephanie recommended you a
podcast to get you through.

319
00:17:10,701 --> 00:17:11,831
my gosh, Lost Hills.

320
00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:13,121
That it's really good.

321
00:17:13,121 --> 00:17:15,781
But she didn't tell me that there were
four seasons.

322
00:17:15,781 --> 00:17:19,381
And so I'm listening to season one and
talking to her about it.

323
00:17:19,381 --> 00:17:22,681
And she's kind of looking at me like, and
I was like, are you listening to like a

324
00:17:22,681 --> 00:17:24,001
different podcast?

325
00:17:24,001 --> 00:17:25,371
She's on another season.

326
00:17:25,371 --> 00:17:28,081
She just, she didn't even know what she
told me to do.

327
00:17:28,081 --> 00:17:29,491
But anyway, season one's great.

328
00:17:29,491 --> 00:17:30,151
I'm loving it.

329
00:17:30,151 --> 00:17:32,021
I listened to two episodes each way.

330
00:17:32,021 --> 00:17:36,641
If you're a murdery and not if you're
murdery, if you're into murdery things,

331
00:17:36,641 --> 00:17:40,223
God, I hope we don't have any murdery
people listening to this.

332
00:17:40,370 --> 00:17:41,430
I'm proud of her.

333
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:42,540
And I'm proud of I'm proud of her.

334
00:17:42,540 --> 00:17:42,610
And I'm proud of her.

335
00:17:42,610 --> 00:17:43,063
And I'm her.

336
00:17:43,063 --> 00:17:43,729
And I'm And I'm proud

337
00:17:48,370 --> 00:17:50,529
has a fantastic podcast voice.

338
00:17:50,529 --> 00:17:56,009
has a great voice and also like her
journalistic integrity is like way higher

339
00:17:56,009 --> 00:18:00,269
than, I mean, I was just listening to a
Karen Reed podcast, which like low caliber

340
00:18:00,269 --> 00:18:01,809
mass hole person running that.

341
00:18:01,809 --> 00:18:03,309
So not good.

342
00:18:04,109 --> 00:18:10,039
so like just quality, like writing and
investigating and it's just really good.

343
00:18:11,186 --> 00:18:15,986
And I think that some of the things going
on at the moment, I think it just kind of

344
00:18:15,986 --> 00:18:18,546
like was the theme for me.

345
00:18:18,546 --> 00:18:24,146
I got the call from my deaf friend, Kate
Donnell, did all my things.

346
00:18:24,326 --> 00:18:26,526
I'm hoping that this week is.

347
00:18:26,733 --> 00:18:29,563
it's not that last week was, wasn't
smooth.

348
00:18:29,563 --> 00:18:34,093
It was just like, it felt, there was like
a little aspect of like survival mode

349
00:18:34,093 --> 00:18:35,043
mixed in with it.

350
00:18:35,043 --> 00:18:37,319
And like, I'm glad we got over that hump.

351
00:18:38,856 --> 00:18:39,496
agreed.

352
00:18:39,496 --> 00:18:44,816
I was doing things like asking myself, is
the pavement too hot to take Scout outside

353
00:18:44,816 --> 00:18:45,326
for a walk?

354
00:18:45,326 --> 00:18:49,286
Like that's the level that we were at
and...

355
00:18:49,286 --> 00:18:53,016
obviously I wanted to have fun, but I also
was like, hell no.

356
00:18:53,016 --> 00:18:54,476
Yeah, we can't.

357
00:18:54,476 --> 00:18:56,446
I think we better get this done, we gotta
get the job done.

358
00:18:56,446 --> 00:18:59,656
a grass for a little bit as needed, but
for all the other pet parents out there,

359
00:18:59,656 --> 00:19:00,816
just like I see you.

360
00:19:00,816 --> 00:19:03,046
And that was really frigging hard.

361
00:19:04,046 --> 00:19:08,266
as far as my last week, I feel like I'm
now like our South shore correspondent now

362
00:19:08,266 --> 00:19:12,926
that I'm spending a lot of time, down in
hall and at the beach and similar to

363
00:19:12,926 --> 00:19:16,026
Caitlin, I was at the beach for the whole
weekend and I was so excited and the

364
00:19:16,026 --> 00:19:17,522
weather was just terrible.

365
00:19:17,594 --> 00:19:22,304
Like it was spitting or raining or
downright pouring the entire time.

366
00:19:22,304 --> 00:19:28,594
So I went into what I call shop small mode
where if I can't be at the beach, I just

367
00:19:28,594 --> 00:19:32,260
want to like visit all my favorite, like
independently run places.

368
00:19:32,265 --> 00:19:37,405
I did the same thing and I bought almost
all of Stephanie's birthday gifts.

369
00:19:37,858 --> 00:19:40,178
yeah, Steph's birthday's coming up right
quick.

370
00:19:40,178 --> 00:19:45,138
I went to this place that I love called
the Sugar Shack, which is quite literally

371
00:19:45,138 --> 00:19:50,828
a shack in the woods that is full of candy
and pie and cinnamon rolls.

372
00:19:50,828 --> 00:19:56,128
And they now have these cocktail mixers
and like all kinds of flavored ice teas.

373
00:19:56,128 --> 00:20:00,898
And they added for the first time ever
pickles and like dilly beans and all these

374
00:20:00,898 --> 00:20:01,218
other things.

375
00:20:01,218 --> 00:20:04,278
And I was like, yeah, me too.

376
00:20:04,278 --> 00:20:05,550
And I was like, I don't.

377
00:20:05,550 --> 00:20:10,650
there is sugar in pickling.

378
00:20:11,809 --> 00:20:15,909
my God, I just remembered all those all
the pickling you did and you gave me back

379
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:16,969
in the day.

380
00:20:16,969 --> 00:20:18,809
Now how long ago was that?

381
00:20:18,809 --> 00:20:19,979
You're right, Molly.

382
00:20:19,979 --> 00:20:21,749
What does she not do?

383
00:20:22,566 --> 00:20:25,426
today we were talking about how Stephanie
has all these hidden talents and like

384
00:20:25,426 --> 00:20:29,346
anytime she takes on a new task she just
like slays it and it makes me have like so

385
00:20:29,346 --> 00:20:32,466
much imposter syndrome I can't even tell
you.

386
00:20:32,986 --> 00:20:37,066
so anyway I went to the sugar shack then I
went to this awesome bookstore in Cohasset

387
00:20:37,066 --> 00:20:40,146
called Buttonwood Books and I just love it
there.

388
00:20:40,146 --> 00:20:43,366
They have great stationery, they have
amazing books, they have so many great

389
00:20:43,366 --> 00:20:46,406
staff picks and you know when you read the
staff pick descriptions of books you've

390
00:20:46,406 --> 00:20:48,209
already read to see if like

391
00:20:48,209 --> 00:20:51,369
you look at that right from every single
article.

392
00:20:51,369 --> 00:20:52,929
I'm just saying, please try to look.

393
00:20:52,929 --> 00:20:53,554
And.

394
00:20:53,554 --> 00:20:58,894
they have an amazing toy and gift section
and they also do stunning gift wrap, like

395
00:20:58,894 --> 00:21:00,154
just included.

396
00:21:00,154 --> 00:21:03,934
So if you are around the South shore and
you're in need of like any kind of gift,

397
00:21:03,934 --> 00:21:05,634
that's a fabulous place.

398
00:21:05,634 --> 00:21:08,274
I went to this place called the Bread
Basket, which is one of my favorite

399
00:21:08,274 --> 00:21:09,074
breakfast spots.

400
00:21:09,074 --> 00:21:13,774
And I don't know if the woman who writes
the names on the to -go bags was like an

401
00:21:13,774 --> 00:21:18,134
artist or like a tattoo artist in a past
life, but she always writes my name like.

402
00:21:18,134 --> 00:21:19,034
So nice.

403
00:21:19,034 --> 00:21:20,634
I'm gonna want to throw it back.

404
00:21:20,634 --> 00:21:22,174
It was so nice.

405
00:21:22,174 --> 00:21:24,033
I'm gonna want to throw it back.

406
00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:26,666
And today I have a...

407
00:21:26,666 --> 00:21:33,666
up doing a ton of yard work because it was
just not sunny and now I'm back and I'm

408
00:21:33,666 --> 00:21:39,066
just reading in the AC which I feel like
has actually been kind of a nice byproduct

409
00:21:39,066 --> 00:21:42,266
of the heat wave is I'm like if I've got
to be inside like I'm just going to keep

410
00:21:42,266 --> 00:21:45,166
reading and I've been blowing through
books and I'm so excited to talk about the

411
00:21:45,166 --> 00:21:46,550
book we're talking about today but

412
00:21:46,550 --> 00:21:50,630
but also when we get to our current
meeting, I just feel like somewhere we can

413
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:55,464
have a good foreword and I don't know if
I'm saying this in a similar way.

414
00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:03,821
have another funny update.

415
00:22:04,481 --> 00:22:06,562
So my stepdad...

416
00:22:06,562 --> 00:22:14,522
exclusively when I grew my hopes until two
years ago, and then I saw something on the

417
00:22:14,522 --> 00:22:19,982
internet that said, read perfectly, helps
your memory, and all of a sudden, it was

418
00:22:19,982 --> 00:22:21,433
my pay for it.

419
00:22:21,433 --> 00:22:25,633
what kind of novels could you like one me
that I might like and it's been this whole

420
00:22:25,633 --> 00:22:29,313
like, I've been trying to get him to read
novels for like 25 years.

421
00:22:29,313 --> 00:22:31,863
Like this was I was like, the news told
you to do it.

422
00:22:31,863 --> 00:22:33,433
So now you're doing it.

423
00:22:33,953 --> 00:22:35,585
I digress.

424
00:22:35,636 --> 00:22:40,792
I gave her a true life problem, and I also
gave him...

425
00:22:41,134 --> 00:22:46,014
disappointments, didn't say anything about
it, I had to take a bit of this moment to

426
00:22:46,014 --> 00:22:46,834
state.

427
00:22:47,154 --> 00:22:53,734
And she was not really, just like, I mean,
you know, just, you know, just the music,

428
00:22:53,734 --> 00:22:57,434
and it's like, there's no, like, I am
totally not going to take any of this with

429
00:22:57,434 --> 00:23:00,534
anything, or I'm just going to take it,
you know, I love it.

430
00:23:00,729 --> 00:23:04,486
And he goes, but This Golden State, I was
gripped from.

431
00:23:04,486 --> 00:23:05,926
the first page.

432
00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:10,846
And then he has gotten to California.

433
00:23:10,946 --> 00:23:15,486
And he's like, the mom definitely has some
kind of connection to that house.

434
00:23:15,486 --> 00:23:20,366
And I think that that is like a form of
commerce, a form of military, a form of

435
00:23:20,366 --> 00:23:21,336
like this, that, that.

436
00:23:21,336 --> 00:23:27,106
He's like, he has all these like
conspiracy theories about what Papi's

437
00:23:27,106 --> 00:23:28,376
family was like.

438
00:23:28,376 --> 00:23:31,280
And I completely die.

439
00:23:31,285 --> 00:23:33,035
He like can't put it down.

440
00:23:33,035 --> 00:23:33,641
Never.

441
00:23:33,641 --> 00:23:34,381
Never really.

442
00:23:34,381 --> 00:23:37,521
So we're at dinner and he's like going off
about all of his theories.

443
00:23:37,521 --> 00:23:44,041
And I was like, I wasn't going to tell you
this, but that's a young adult book for

444
00:23:44,041 --> 00:23:45,921
like high school kids.

445
00:23:45,921 --> 00:23:48,501
And he goes, well, I really like it.

446
00:23:48,501 --> 00:23:50,071
So you can give me some more of these.

447
00:23:50,071 --> 00:23:54,101
I was like, we don't really have any,
like, this is kind of a funky one, but

448
00:23:54,101 --> 00:23:55,481
I'll see what I can whip up.

449
00:23:55,481 --> 00:23:58,181
So now he's going to read young, like YA.

450
00:23:58,181 --> 00:24:00,928
What, what, something is in the water this
summer.

451
00:24:00,928 --> 00:24:04,874
I know there's weird, weird things
happening.

452
00:24:04,874 --> 00:24:09,494
you give him, my God, the one we read
right before it.

453
00:24:09,494 --> 00:24:10,814
Why am I blanking?

454
00:24:10,814 --> 00:24:12,194
Also YA.

455
00:24:12,814 --> 00:24:14,674
Thank you.

456
00:24:14,674 --> 00:24:19,869
Cause I feel like maybe worth a try.

457
00:24:19,869 --> 00:24:21,009
try for sure.

458
00:24:21,009 --> 00:24:22,251
For sure.

459
00:24:22,426 --> 00:24:28,126
You also both just reminded me, I met some
people who have been taking books from my

460
00:24:28,126 --> 00:24:29,186
little free library.

461
00:24:29,186 --> 00:24:36,506
I was coming back from the beach and I was
like turning towards my house and yes.

462
00:24:36,506 --> 00:24:40,986
And these two women were like, my God,
we've been waiting to see you to tell you

463
00:24:40,986 --> 00:24:43,686
how much we love your little free library.

464
00:24:43,686 --> 00:24:46,866
We feel like we don't have to go anywhere
else to get books for the summer because

465
00:24:46,866 --> 00:24:49,026
you keep adding so many great things.

466
00:24:49,026 --> 00:24:51,834
And this, this woman, one of them who was
younger.

467
00:24:51,834 --> 00:24:56,514
goes, I couldn't believe you had the
throne of glass, which was Steph's book.

468
00:24:56,514 --> 00:24:58,454
And she goes, I'm so excited.

469
00:24:58,454 --> 00:24:59,774
She goes, I cannot wait to finish.

470
00:24:59,774 --> 00:25:01,834
She's like, is there any chance you have
the other ones?

471
00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:05,134
And I said, I don't have them in my
possession right now, but if I come into

472
00:25:05,134 --> 00:25:06,334
them, I'll let you know.

473
00:25:06,334 --> 00:25:09,634
And I said, I'll put them aside so that
you don't have to worry that somebody else

474
00:25:09,634 --> 00:25:10,414
takes them.

475
00:25:10,414 --> 00:25:13,274
And the other woman with her was her
mother -in -law.

476
00:25:13,274 --> 00:25:14,893
And she was like, I can't.

477
00:25:14,893 --> 00:25:20,173
you just commit to having a wait list for
your free little library?

478
00:25:21,413 --> 00:25:24,477
No, you're not because you didn't even
like it.

479
00:25:24,634 --> 00:25:29,634
But I feel like one of our big dreams is
that maybe someday we would have our own

480
00:25:29,634 --> 00:25:30,134
bookshop.

481
00:25:30,134 --> 00:25:34,574
And I feel like people are responding to
the books that we are reading and putting

482
00:25:34,574 --> 00:25:35,634
into this little free library.

483
00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:37,994
And they are going to have our bookmarks
and they're going to know about this

484
00:25:37,994 --> 00:25:38,834
podcast.

485
00:25:38,834 --> 00:25:40,326
It's growing.

486
00:25:40,490 --> 00:25:44,810
if you, okay, this is like maybe giving
you too much work, but my favorite part of

487
00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:48,170
going to the library was getting to like
look at the inside jacket to see like who

488
00:25:48,170 --> 00:25:50,010
had signed it out and stuff.

489
00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:54,490
What if you put some sort of thing on the
inside, kind of where they could write

490
00:25:54,490 --> 00:25:57,470
like a little note where they were like,
hi, I'm from here.

491
00:25:57,470 --> 00:25:58,860
I thought this about the book.

492
00:25:58,860 --> 00:26:00,610
Am I giving you too much homework?

493
00:26:02,554 --> 00:26:05,186
Okay, we have to think about how to
actualize this.

494
00:26:05,186 --> 00:26:07,996
could put their email in there, just like
something.

495
00:26:07,996 --> 00:26:10,665
So like people could start, you are
getting weepy.

496
00:26:10,665 --> 00:26:12,445
I love this!

497
00:26:12,445 --> 00:26:17,059
Now, it's because I don't have a house and
I want a little library.

498
00:26:17,942 --> 00:26:20,622
First of all, you're gonna get a house and
we're gonna make sure you get a little

499
00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:26,761
library, but I never thought I would like
chat with people and that has been so It's

500
00:26:26,761 --> 00:26:31,702
so nice and like I was joking with you
guys when I first installed it I was like

501
00:26:31,702 --> 00:26:35,062
this town is not ready for like our great
taste in books people usually just use

502
00:26:35,062 --> 00:26:38,762
those little free libraries to offload
like stuff from their basement, but we are

503
00:26:38,762 --> 00:26:39,706
putting like

504
00:26:39,706 --> 00:26:45,346
right now, popular fiction and memoirs and
YA and everything into there.

505
00:26:45,346 --> 00:26:49,826
And also, I don't have that many kids
books, but I kind of want to because I'm

506
00:26:49,826 --> 00:26:53,526
noticing that around town, the other
people who have them have a lot of kids

507
00:26:53,526 --> 00:26:53,696
books.

508
00:26:53,696 --> 00:26:54,985
So I'm going to work on them.

509
00:26:54,985 --> 00:26:57,525
Say no more.

510
00:26:57,685 --> 00:26:59,425
I definitely have books to get rid of.

511
00:26:59,425 --> 00:27:00,405
Yeah, I probably do.

512
00:27:00,405 --> 00:27:01,030
Yeah.

513
00:27:01,030 --> 00:27:05,904
Okay, well, Brooklyn and I have Little
Free Library is becoming quite popular.

514
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:10,530
my other thought, because I'm just like
spitballing here, but what if you had like

515
00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:15,910
a little notebook instead, instead of
having to put like an actual thing inside

516
00:27:15,910 --> 00:27:20,190
of each book, just put like an actual
guest book inside there, somehow attach it

517
00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:24,170
so it can't be taken out, and they could
just write like a little thing.

518
00:27:24,170 --> 00:27:26,642
They might want to, they might, you know.

519
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:34,050
I have to think about where to put it and
also I don't like overstuff it because I

520
00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:37,946
don't want stuff to get wet in the rain,
but I will think about where I...

521
00:27:37,946 --> 00:27:40,886
could do that so people would like notice
that it's there.

522
00:27:40,986 --> 00:27:44,406
I love this, both of these ideas.

523
00:27:44,926 --> 00:27:46,514
It's really been so fun.

524
00:27:48,457 --> 00:27:53,777
Steph, I think you are launching us for
the seven year slip.

525
00:27:53,818 --> 00:27:58,538
It's actually sort of, like, I can't think
of the word right now, but the fact that

526
00:27:58,538 --> 00:28:01,490
it's almost my birthday, and you gave
me...

527
00:28:03,130 --> 00:28:07,090
We're not doing the Dead Romantics, but
that was the first Ashley Poston book that

528
00:28:07,090 --> 00:28:09,410
you gave me, however many years ago.

529
00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:14,270
We are actually doing her second book
today, The Seven Year Slip.

530
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:17,350
Did I buy this or did someone gift this to
me?

531
00:28:17,390 --> 00:28:18,640
Maybe I bought it.

532
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,290
I loved the Dead Romantics.

533
00:28:21,490 --> 00:28:25,370
Similar feel actually, kind of ish.

534
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:26,380
You didn't read that.

535
00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:27,990
Did you also read it?

536
00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:29,710
okay.

537
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:30,510
Okay.

538
00:28:30,510 --> 00:28:30,809
So.

539
00:28:30,809 --> 00:28:34,669
I'm going to talk about how I'm a legend,
but I'm also a true other ghost.

540
00:28:34,669 --> 00:28:38,109
This one doesn't have to be like a ghost,
but somehow maybe just a sort of

541
00:28:38,109 --> 00:28:38,929
nightmare.

542
00:28:39,806 --> 00:28:41,586
aspect of it, I guess you could say.

543
00:28:41,586 --> 00:28:49,686
The seven -year slip, I would call this
almost like an adult Narnia in that, don't

544
00:28:49,686 --> 00:28:50,526
you think?

545
00:28:50,526 --> 00:28:52,882
In that there is...

546
00:28:54,874 --> 00:28:58,434
So I don't even know how to begin about
this.

547
00:28:58,434 --> 00:29:04,174
Clementine, also the reason I love this is
because she has a fantastic relationship

548
00:29:04,174 --> 00:29:06,554
with a non -parent, an aunt.

549
00:29:07,534 --> 00:29:13,994
The aunt gifts her her apartment or condo,
I don't know what you want to call it, in

550
00:29:13,994 --> 00:29:15,254
New York City.

551
00:29:15,254 --> 00:29:22,002
And when she walks in, it's like going
through the closet to Narnia and that...

552
00:29:22,106 --> 00:29:28,886
she steps into like a magical place
because in this case it's sort of like a

553
00:29:28,886 --> 00:29:32,166
time rift, I guess you'd maybe qualify it.

554
00:29:32,166 --> 00:29:37,456
When she walks in there, not every time,
but sometimes maybe when she needs it,

555
00:29:37,456 --> 00:29:42,726
there is someone that's in there in a
different time period or someone's

556
00:29:42,726 --> 00:29:44,846
actually, did that just give stuff away?

557
00:29:44,846 --> 00:29:48,926
Anyways, I don't know how to go about
talking about this book without like

558
00:29:48,926 --> 00:29:49,874
spoiling things.

559
00:29:49,874 --> 00:29:54,334
so I would yeah, so I would describe yeah,
I totally get why you're making the Narnia

560
00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:55,154
comparison.

561
00:29:55,154 --> 00:30:01,614
I feel like if you like a time hop story,
you will like this.

562
00:30:01,614 --> 00:30:06,614
And Steph's right that there's this
unknown element where like sometimes she

563
00:30:06,614 --> 00:30:09,254
comes home and she's seven years earlier.

564
00:30:09,254 --> 00:30:11,250
And sometimes it's just present day.

565
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:14,750
And as the reader, I do not have a place
to go in the book.

566
00:30:14,790 --> 00:30:17,550
It is what is happening at certain times.

567
00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:22,390
And I felt like I was wishing for her to
be the seven years earlier because I

568
00:30:22,390 --> 00:30:27,050
wanted more of this relationship she was
forming in the before time.

569
00:30:27,170 --> 00:30:33,350
And even though it was really important in
the present day, I just wanted more in the

570
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:35,312
earlier magic.

571
00:30:36,077 --> 00:30:42,077
also works for a book publisher, and she's
like climbing the corporate ladder and

572
00:30:42,077 --> 00:30:44,959
really focused on her career when her aunt

573
00:30:44,969 --> 00:30:47,409
passes and leaves her this apartment.

574
00:30:47,449 --> 00:30:53,909
And her aunt also has like weaved these
tales about how the apartment is magical

575
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:59,209
and like how things will happen when
you're in it if you give it a chance kind

576
00:30:59,209 --> 00:31:00,269
of thing.

577
00:31:00,269 --> 00:31:02,829
And she meets this guy, Ewan.

578
00:31:02,909 --> 00:31:05,389
We think it's Ewan, I -W -A -N.

579
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:07,529
We're going with like Ewan McGregor.

580
00:31:07,529 --> 00:31:09,349
That's what we think it is.

581
00:31:09,439 --> 00:31:14,933
Who is like a chef.

582
00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:17,700
This is Southern Calvin.

583
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,317
And.

584
00:31:19,317 --> 00:31:24,617
he says that he is friends with her aunt
and that he's been told he can like sublet

585
00:31:24,617 --> 00:31:26,357
the apartment for the summer.

586
00:31:26,357 --> 00:31:31,877
And they basically try to like coexist in
the apartment because it seems like she is

587
00:31:31,877 --> 00:31:36,667
so career focused that she, if not that
she doesn't have friends, she just like,

588
00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:42,097
hasn't really let herself let her guard
down and like actually put the effort into

589
00:31:42,097 --> 00:31:44,423
dating and like doing all these things.

590
00:31:46,322 --> 00:31:48,502
I didn't finish my book.

591
00:31:49,626 --> 00:31:53,386
But wait, because you ran out of time or
because you didn't like it?

592
00:31:53,386 --> 00:31:54,497
Be specific.

593
00:31:54,497 --> 00:31:54,907
it.

594
00:31:54,907 --> 00:31:57,207
So my rule is 50 pages.

595
00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:59,277
I gave it 93.

596
00:31:59,877 --> 00:32:04,737
And I thought it was so corny.

597
00:32:06,217 --> 00:32:12,677
And like, Ewan is like, it was just like,
I felt like I was reading a Hallmark TV

598
00:32:12,677 --> 00:32:13,817
show script.

599
00:32:13,817 --> 00:32:18,597
Like, and then this guy magically appears
in this apartment that her aunt bequeathed

600
00:32:18,597 --> 00:32:18,847
to her.

601
00:32:18,847 --> 00:32:20,512
Like, it just felt like.

602
00:32:20,512 --> 00:32:25,802
and I really wasn't supposed to have it,
but fairytales, I knew it, it was like, it

603
00:32:25,802 --> 00:32:27,222
was fairytales.

604
00:32:27,342 --> 00:32:30,502
Yeah, I didn't expect that, it was not me.

605
00:32:31,342 --> 00:32:33,893
Does anyone said I'm not?

606
00:32:33,893 --> 00:32:37,853
was like, I hated those effing books and I
taught one of them one year.

607
00:32:37,853 --> 00:32:40,143
I did not like those books at all.

608
00:32:40,143 --> 00:32:42,273
I thought they were ridiculous.

609
00:32:43,173 --> 00:32:46,673
No, because the first time I read them, I
didn't realize there was a religious

610
00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:47,793
aspect.

611
00:32:49,933 --> 00:32:51,777
I just...

612
00:32:53,534 --> 00:32:54,374
sorry.

613
00:32:56,054 --> 00:32:58,185
Okay, finish your thought and then I'll
resume.

614
00:32:58,185 --> 00:33:01,385
So I really wanted to like it.

615
00:33:01,385 --> 00:33:06,725
And it was just like, this boy, like her
career is going so well and everything's

616
00:33:06,725 --> 00:33:09,475
going so well except her aunt died.

617
00:33:09,475 --> 00:33:12,525
But her aunt died and left her this like
badass apartment.

618
00:33:12,525 --> 00:33:15,955
And then magically her like dream boy is
also in the apartment.

619
00:33:15,955 --> 00:33:17,425
And I was like, really Clementine?

620
00:33:17,425 --> 00:33:18,525
Like you're getting all this shit.

621
00:33:18,525 --> 00:33:19,753
Come on.

622
00:33:19,818 --> 00:33:24,817
they're in different time periods so like
they can't live a life.

623
00:33:24,817 --> 00:33:26,147
to aggravate me.

624
00:33:26,147 --> 00:33:27,927
I was like, I'm going to root for them.

625
00:33:27,927 --> 00:33:31,337
And then it's going to be like they can't
actually be together because of the time

626
00:33:31,337 --> 00:33:32,637
warp, whatever it is.

627
00:33:32,637 --> 00:33:36,477
Like I was like, this is corny and
ridiculous.

628
00:33:36,897 --> 00:33:39,817
And I just, I couldn't get into it.

629
00:33:39,817 --> 00:33:41,357
I like wanted to like it.

630
00:33:41,357 --> 00:33:44,577
And like, I thought some of the writing
was really funny.

631
00:33:44,577 --> 00:33:48,357
Like I thought Clementine was pretty funny
and like self -deprecating and she had

632
00:33:48,357 --> 00:33:49,467
some like good moments.

633
00:33:49,467 --> 00:33:51,145
But then I was just like,

634
00:33:51,145 --> 00:33:52,625
A magical apartment?

635
00:33:52,625 --> 00:33:54,775
Like, I don't want to read this.

636
00:33:54,874 --> 00:33:58,994
Okay, listeners, if you don't want
spoilers, just seek ahead for like the

637
00:33:58,994 --> 00:34:01,554
next 90 seconds while I say two things.

638
00:34:01,714 --> 00:34:06,114
You gave up on this book before they meet
again in the present day at the same time.

639
00:34:06,114 --> 00:34:09,674
So you did not get a chance to see what
happens when it stops being magical and

640
00:34:09,674 --> 00:34:13,214
just starts being, they're actually
meeting each other for real.

641
00:34:13,214 --> 00:34:19,014
You also didn't make it far enough to find
out why he knows the aunt and how he got

642
00:34:19,014 --> 00:34:23,034
involved in the apartment, which is like a
pretty huge reveal about the aunt and her

643
00:34:23,034 --> 00:34:23,934
life.

644
00:34:23,994 --> 00:34:29,434
and things that Clementine didn't really
know or understand about her aunt's life

645
00:34:29,434 --> 00:34:33,374
that I thought made the story much like
richer and rounder and fuller.

646
00:34:33,374 --> 00:34:38,234
I agree that there's corniness in the
first third where it just feels kind of

647
00:34:38,234 --> 00:34:39,884
like, is this all too good to be true?

648
00:34:39,884 --> 00:34:41,534
And like nothing bad is ever going to
happen.

649
00:34:41,534 --> 00:34:46,614
But I felt like once it caught up to the
present day, it got a lot more

650
00:34:46,614 --> 00:34:46,934
interesting.

651
00:34:46,934 --> 00:34:50,294
Cause it was like, if this isn't like a
magical fantasy, can it actually be

652
00:34:50,294 --> 00:34:50,944
something real?

653
00:34:50,944 --> 00:34:53,240
And that's the part I liked the most.

654
00:34:54,925 --> 00:35:00,365
sorry, there's also that part where And I
don't think this gives anything away, but

655
00:35:00,365 --> 00:35:05,885
basically the aunt alludes to like having
a relationship with somebody that was like

656
00:35:05,885 --> 00:35:11,041
a ghost of the whatever whatever we're
calling the people from the past

657
00:35:24,742 --> 00:35:29,842
tell you the stuff you missed off air so
that you can understand better without

658
00:35:29,842 --> 00:35:31,548
ruining it for the listeners.

659
00:35:32,265 --> 00:35:34,471
I mean, you don't have to, but okay.

660
00:35:34,874 --> 00:35:39,750
Also, I just need to say, this is part of
a broader conversation, the three of us.

661
00:35:39,825 --> 00:35:41,535
and I finally like didn't finish it.

662
00:35:41,535 --> 00:35:43,185
I mean like that's pretty good.

663
00:35:43,185 --> 00:35:44,745
It's a pretty good.

664
00:35:45,165 --> 00:35:48,345
No, no chapter 35 of our podcast.

665
00:35:48,345 --> 00:35:50,265
And I finally didn't finish one.

666
00:35:50,265 --> 00:35:53,626
And let me tell you, I hate finished the
Kerry Washington book.

667
00:35:53,626 --> 00:35:55,266
Yeah, but there was another one you didn't
finish.

668
00:35:55,266 --> 00:35:56,766
Which one was that?

669
00:35:56,766 --> 00:35:57,886
Not important.

670
00:35:57,886 --> 00:35:58,826
There was one.

671
00:35:58,826 --> 00:36:00,188
At the beginning.

672
00:36:00,209 --> 00:36:03,449
all of them, because the Kerry Washington
was the one that I wanted to spike on the

673
00:36:03,449 --> 00:36:04,651
ground the most.

674
00:36:05,338 --> 00:36:07,358
I think you gave up on glossy.

675
00:36:07,849 --> 00:36:09,769
No, I finished that.

676
00:36:09,769 --> 00:36:11,454
I didn't want to.

677
00:36:11,454 --> 00:36:12,514
a memo.

678
00:36:12,514 --> 00:36:13,966
Anyway, it's not important.

679
00:36:13,966 --> 00:36:17,286
But what I was going to say is that we've
been having a conversation amongst

680
00:36:17,286 --> 00:36:22,426
ourselves just in our text thread all the
time about our good reads reading goal for

681
00:36:22,426 --> 00:36:23,446
the year.

682
00:36:23,606 --> 00:36:28,116
So Steph is a fucking beast part of my
French and already hit her goal.

683
00:36:28,116 --> 00:36:29,986
She said her goal as 40 books for the
year.

684
00:36:29,986 --> 00:36:32,846
And last week she already hit it, which is
psycho.

685
00:36:32,846 --> 00:36:36,906
And then Caitlin, okay, she's at 41 out of
40, which is insane.

686
00:36:37,166 --> 00:36:38,618
And then Caitlin.

687
00:36:38,618 --> 00:36:42,218
told us that she was at like 18 or 19 and
we were like that's impossible because

688
00:36:42,218 --> 00:36:45,838
we've seen how many books you've read but
we've learned that you don't count the

689
00:36:45,838 --> 00:36:47,270
ones you don't finish.

690
00:36:48,865 --> 00:36:59,345
My brother and I actually just had a
conversation about this like a week ago

691
00:36:59,345 --> 00:37:04,265
because he asked me he and Zibo both asked
me like, what do you do with those books

692
00:37:04,265 --> 00:37:05,945
and Zibo is not even on Goodreads.

693
00:37:05,945 --> 00:37:10,725
He has his own Google Doc that I have very
generously been shared on that I can see

694
00:37:10,725 --> 00:37:14,285
all of his books he's read in the last
like eight years, and what he's rated them

695
00:37:14,285 --> 00:37:15,565
one to 10.

696
00:37:15,565 --> 00:37:17,687
And

697
00:37:18,441 --> 00:37:21,661
I, Brad was like, you know, what do you
do?

698
00:37:21,661 --> 00:37:22,410
What happens?

699
00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:24,541
Like, what do you do with the books that
you don't finish?

700
00:37:24,541 --> 00:37:31,361
And I'm like, I either delete them from my
Goodreads or I move them back to, to be

701
00:37:31,361 --> 00:37:34,434
read depending on how I feel about it.

702
00:37:34,434 --> 00:37:34,684
them?

703
00:37:34,684 --> 00:37:38,334
Because I have like five books that I
haven't finished, but will eventually.

704
00:37:38,334 --> 00:37:41,473
They're just like in limbo in my currently
reading.

705
00:37:41,473 --> 00:37:44,793
love the limbo situation that much.

706
00:37:44,793 --> 00:37:50,033
And so I either move them back to to be
read or I if I know that I really don't

707
00:37:50,033 --> 00:37:52,597
like it, then I remove it from all my
shelves.

708
00:37:52,634 --> 00:37:53,634
Got it.

709
00:37:53,634 --> 00:37:55,234
I want to say one thing.

710
00:37:55,234 --> 00:38:03,514
I feel like the seven year slip is sort of
like a more fantastical conversation about

711
00:38:03,514 --> 00:38:10,054
relationships that are created in sort of
a bubble and trying to see whether that

712
00:38:10,054 --> 00:38:13,454
chemistry can exist outside of.

713
00:38:14,474 --> 00:38:15,069
Like.

714
00:38:15,069 --> 00:38:17,301
right, I didn't finish glossy, I just
looked.

715
00:38:19,770 --> 00:38:26,370
I feel like in real life and in books, I
enjoy that sort of, you know, a

716
00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:31,350
relationship could be, let's talk about
golden hour, like a relationship could be

717
00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:34,710
so magical and wonderful in a vacation
setting.

718
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:36,790
Can you take it outside of the vacation
setting?

719
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:42,710
I mean, this is sort of like the most
grandiose type where it's like literally

720
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:48,660
in a magic apartment, can you take it out
and it also exists and works type thing,

721
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:49,290
you know?

722
00:38:49,290 --> 00:38:55,710
So I was, I always thought we could do it
in the middle of a relationship.

723
00:38:56,190 --> 00:38:58,530
But if I could guess.

724
00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,543
Maybe I revisit this book at some point.

725
00:39:00,543 --> 00:39:01,513
I don't know.

726
00:39:01,513 --> 00:39:04,873
But I also I would definitely watch it as
a movie.

727
00:39:04,873 --> 00:39:05,893
I will say that.

728
00:39:05,893 --> 00:39:07,146
Like I would be interested.

729
00:39:07,146 --> 00:39:07,721
movie.

730
00:39:07,721 --> 00:39:10,641
I would be interested in seeing that.

731
00:39:10,761 --> 00:39:15,021
Because like I've read The Time Traveler's
Wife and I really liked that book.

732
00:39:15,301 --> 00:39:18,774
And I've read, I'm trying to think of
another time jump one.

733
00:39:18,774 --> 00:39:24,394
no, it's a movie, but Meg Ryan and Hugh
Jackman and he comes through like an

734
00:39:24,394 --> 00:39:25,324
elevator.

735
00:39:25,626 --> 00:39:27,446
Is that Kate and Leopold?

736
00:39:28,025 --> 00:39:29,925
no, I don't know that one.

737
00:39:31,185 --> 00:39:31,998
sweet.

738
00:39:31,998 --> 00:39:35,618
was gonna say my favorite time hop is Una
Out of Order, which I don't know if you

739
00:39:35,618 --> 00:39:36,474
guys read.

740
00:39:36,474 --> 00:39:37,914
what's the one?

741
00:39:38,334 --> 00:39:39,234
my God.

742
00:39:39,234 --> 00:39:40,962
He's a Weasley.

743
00:39:42,305 --> 00:39:44,965
I love that movie about time.

744
00:39:45,685 --> 00:39:48,505
I sob every single time I see that movie.

745
00:39:48,505 --> 00:39:51,665
It is a hard cry for me.

746
00:39:51,665 --> 00:39:53,745
It's such a beautiful movie.

747
00:39:54,005 --> 00:40:00,135
So I like time jumps and I like time,
whatever we want to call them.

748
00:40:00,135 --> 00:40:01,905
I like those.

749
00:40:02,445 --> 00:40:05,057
I don't like when it's like.

750
00:40:07,145 --> 00:40:10,565
Like I thought that this was going to be
one of those books, like the same day gets

751
00:40:10,565 --> 00:40:12,425
repeated over and over again.

752
00:40:12,425 --> 00:40:17,425
Or maybe it's a book where like she, it's
second chance romance and she dates

753
00:40:17,425 --> 00:40:20,695
somebody from seven years earlier that she
bumps into them or what.

754
00:40:20,695 --> 00:40:23,585
Like I didn't think it was going to be
like a magical apartment.

755
00:40:23,585 --> 00:40:28,105
So going into it, I had like the wrong
frame.

756
00:40:28,105 --> 00:40:32,625
And so then I started reading it and I was
like, what?

757
00:40:32,625 --> 00:40:36,097
Like I just was, I, it just.

758
00:40:43,090 --> 00:40:48,450
this is why oftentimes I do I have so many
books that I could pick one up and not

759
00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:52,530
remember why I purchased it I do not allow
myself to read the inside cover or back

760
00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:56,850
cover before I crack into page one I just
start off

761
00:40:58,222 --> 00:40:59,452
that's what I did with this.

762
00:40:59,452 --> 00:41:02,422
That's why I thought it was a second
chance romance where she's dating somebody

763
00:41:02,422 --> 00:41:03,412
from seven years ago.

764
00:41:03,412 --> 00:41:06,542
If I had read the back of the book, I
would have like maybe been a little ready,

765
00:41:06,542 --> 00:41:08,662
but that didn't happen.

766
00:41:08,882 --> 00:41:15,222
The blurb also doesn't really totally give
away that that's kind of like the premise

767
00:41:15,222 --> 00:41:16,493
of how it's going to go down.

768
00:41:16,493 --> 00:41:23,214
feel that The Seven Years Club would make
a perfect 90 minute Netflix rom -com.

769
00:41:23,234 --> 00:41:24,474
Like 100%.

770
00:41:24,474 --> 00:41:29,354
It would be, it has all the right sort of
like beat points.

771
00:41:29,354 --> 00:41:37,514
It has like the magicalness that's
intriguing and also watching it, it's less

772
00:41:37,514 --> 00:41:40,994
of a time commitment than reading this
entire book.

773
00:41:42,554 --> 00:41:45,864
I, but I like this category of stories, I
guess I would say.

774
00:41:45,864 --> 00:41:48,554
Like the, I like the time hop setup.

775
00:41:48,554 --> 00:41:52,454
And I think we've read a bunch, all of us
that we've really, really loved and you

776
00:41:52,454 --> 00:41:54,134
know, movies too.

777
00:41:54,914 --> 00:41:59,134
so if you are a person that usually enjoys
that, I would say give this a shot.

778
00:41:59,744 --> 00:42:01,784
and I didn't read the Dead Romantics yet.

779
00:42:01,784 --> 00:42:05,074
Actually, Steph gave it to me and I took
it from my TBR pile and brought it here

780
00:42:05,074 --> 00:42:05,674
for today.

781
00:42:05,674 --> 00:42:07,184
I do really want to read that.

782
00:42:07,184 --> 00:42:12,300
And I know that Ashley Poston has a book,
that.

783
00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:16,550
by the time you guys are listening to
this, will have come out on June 25th.

784
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:20,530
So there will be yet another opportunity
to read some of her writing.

785
00:42:20,530 --> 00:42:24,338
If either of these premises don't appeal
to you, she has something brand new.

786
00:42:26,021 --> 00:42:33,301
either of you noticed this trend that's
happening where romance novelists are

787
00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:34,791
including an aunt?

788
00:42:34,791 --> 00:42:40,839
I know Steph was always saying like a non
-parent like good relationship.

789
00:42:40,873 --> 00:42:47,073
It's been on a lot recently for some
reason and florists.

790
00:42:48,013 --> 00:42:50,763
Did you notice that the florist thing
that's been pot?

791
00:42:50,763 --> 00:42:52,122
So there's a.

792
00:42:52,122 --> 00:42:55,262
made me think of Colleen Hoover.

793
00:43:03,182 --> 00:43:04,662
Something bloom.

794
00:43:04,742 --> 00:43:07,653
Isn't her name Lily Bloom or something?

795
00:43:07,653 --> 00:43:08,753
Yeah.

796
00:43:08,833 --> 00:43:12,033
So she opens Bloom's Buds.

797
00:43:12,033 --> 00:43:13,493
We don't know what it's called.

798
00:43:14,393 --> 00:43:15,893
So that's in that book.

799
00:43:15,893 --> 00:43:23,393
And then I read the, yes, then we read the
new Carly Fortune book.

800
00:43:23,433 --> 00:43:26,753
and that she's a florist in that and she
has an aunt that dies.

801
00:43:26,753 --> 00:43:30,145
And then we read seven year slip and...

802
00:43:31,721 --> 00:43:38,121
He's a chef, which like the PEI book also
has like the oyster shucker works at a

803
00:43:38,121 --> 00:43:40,381
restaurant, runs an Airbnb kind of thing.

804
00:43:40,381 --> 00:43:43,921
And then we also in the seven year slip
have the aunt that dies.

805
00:43:43,921 --> 00:43:50,621
So it's like aunts dying, florists,
restaurant adjacent people, book

806
00:43:50,621 --> 00:43:51,031
publishers.

807
00:43:51,031 --> 00:43:51,681
I don't know.

808
00:43:51,681 --> 00:43:54,641
I feel like these authors are just like
reading each other's books and they're

809
00:43:54,641 --> 00:44:00,094
like, Ooh, that'd be fun if I like used
that, you know, like job or.

810
00:44:00,094 --> 00:44:01,534
religion or whatever.

811
00:44:01,534 --> 00:44:04,154
And it's really a classical book to my
credit.

812
00:44:04,154 --> 00:44:05,834
And I'm like, I know, I'm just so smart.

813
00:44:05,834 --> 00:44:07,114
And it's like, I can't read that.

814
00:44:07,114 --> 00:44:08,434
It's just awesome.

815
00:44:10,330 --> 00:44:11,270
Yeah, I see that.

816
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:15,790
I was when you were saying florists, I was
thinking of Tia Williams love song for

817
00:44:15,790 --> 00:44:16,290
Ricky Wilde.

818
00:44:16,290 --> 00:44:18,050
She's a florist in that.

819
00:44:18,369 --> 00:44:20,309
I didn't even read that one, so there you
go.

820
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:22,229
Huh, fascinating.

821
00:44:22,469 --> 00:44:24,919
Well, sorry that I didn't finish it.

822
00:44:24,919 --> 00:44:26,750
What is everybody reading right

823
00:44:27,821 --> 00:44:34,138
I just read Hannah Bonham Young's Out on a

824
00:44:35,015 --> 00:44:41,155
I saw a different cover on, I don't know,
could have been Instagram or something.

825
00:44:41,155 --> 00:44:42,874
And I was like, I love that cover.

826
00:44:42,874 --> 00:44:45,294
you buy that at Belmont Books' birthday?

827
00:44:45,834 --> 00:44:46,774
Yes, I did.

828
00:44:46,774 --> 00:44:48,324
Wow, you just got that book.

829
00:44:48,324 --> 00:44:49,004
You're already done?

830
00:44:49,004 --> 00:44:50,864
Yes, I'm trying to get my interest in
this.

831
00:44:50,864 --> 00:44:51,374
Dang.

832
00:44:51,374 --> 00:44:52,894
I need to get back to the site.

833
00:44:52,894 --> 00:44:55,754
Please tell me if you have the book that
you're reading.

834
00:44:56,082 --> 00:45:03,472
I have a new outdoor sectional, which
allows me to recline.

835
00:45:03,602 --> 00:45:05,442
God, it's like a full dream.

836
00:45:05,442 --> 00:45:11,742
Also, it's in shade until probably 2 p So
even if it's hot, I can sit out there.

837
00:45:11,742 --> 00:45:13,692
Nemo had half of the couch.

838
00:45:13,692 --> 00:45:14,572
I had the other half.

839
00:45:14,572 --> 00:45:16,032
We didn't have to be like on top of each
other.

840
00:45:16,032 --> 00:45:19,402
He could adjust and it didn't like ruffle
my feathers.

841
00:45:20,202 --> 00:45:22,292
And then with the plants.

842
00:45:24,414 --> 00:45:26,186
very dreamy out there.

843
00:45:26,186 --> 00:45:31,666
I grew up with a greenhouse as part of our
house and inside.

844
00:45:31,666 --> 00:45:34,726
So this is like an in attached indoor
greenhouse.

845
00:45:34,726 --> 00:45:42,046
And my dad had bought these swing woven
chairs that are like the epitome of

846
00:45:42,046 --> 00:45:46,066
perfect reading spots because it's bright
light.

847
00:45:46,066 --> 00:45:51,514
But you're indoors if it's like a colder
day and you're swinging which is like

848
00:45:51,574 --> 00:45:52,473
the dream.

849
00:45:52,594 --> 00:45:54,394
And it's not in this book.

850
00:45:54,394 --> 00:46:00,294
This is, I don't know, I don't know if you
probably saw it, but it's not in the book.

851
00:46:00,294 --> 00:46:04,696
Wait, well, it's there first, and then
it's out, it's two of those.

852
00:46:04,937 --> 00:46:10,182
the way that Amy and Sarah were like a
box, and I...

853
00:46:10,182 --> 00:46:14,402
noticed he had a prosthetic leg and I was
like, I haven't really read anything with

854
00:46:14,402 --> 00:46:18,854
like, I mean, I feel like spectrum.

855
00:46:19,209 --> 00:46:20,489
we've been seeing a lot of those.

856
00:46:20,489 --> 00:46:25,289
I've seen characters on them, but I
haven't seen any sort of differently

857
00:46:25,289 --> 00:46:26,709
-approved characters.

858
00:46:26,709 --> 00:46:28,889
And this one, they both have something.

859
00:46:28,889 --> 00:46:34,009
So he has a prosthetic leg, and he, like
the author, has a prosthetic elbow in his

860
00:46:34,009 --> 00:46:34,949
hand.

861
00:46:35,049 --> 00:46:39,834
So it's interesting that I keep going
forward and going forward.

862
00:46:39,834 --> 00:46:44,494
books that sort of encompass all types of
people.

863
00:46:44,593 --> 00:46:48,853
just tell you, you've been waving that
book in front of my face for like two or

864
00:46:48,853 --> 00:46:52,153
three minutes and I'm just noticing the
prosthetic leg now.

865
00:46:52,153 --> 00:46:54,853
It didn't didn't even pop out at me at
all.

866
00:46:54,853 --> 00:46:59,041
I didn't even like think about that being
part of the story.

867
00:47:05,930 --> 00:47:11,270
I was just going to say, if you're in the
Boston area, there are two sisters that

868
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:12,738
own a business called

869
00:47:12,738 --> 00:47:18,818
Read My Lips Boston, and they have some
disabilities themselves and are very

870
00:47:18,818 --> 00:47:24,358
passionate about stories that show all
kinds of abilities and differences.

871
00:47:24,358 --> 00:47:28,678
And if you're looking for more of books,
like what Steph's talking about right now,

872
00:47:28,678 --> 00:47:29,468
you should follow them.

873
00:47:29,468 --> 00:47:33,618
It's Read My Lips Boston on Instagram and
like daily they're sharing new books and

874
00:47:33,618 --> 00:47:34,490
ideas.

875
00:47:35,342 --> 00:47:39,762
So this is the characters are Wyn and Bo.

876
00:47:39,962 --> 00:47:42,442
Wyn, her name is Wynna Fred, but she
doesn't like that.

877
00:47:42,442 --> 00:47:43,802
So she goes by Wyn.

878
00:47:43,802 --> 00:47:45,662
It starts at a Halloween party.

879
00:47:45,662 --> 00:47:47,382
She is dressed as a pirate.

880
00:47:47,382 --> 00:47:50,762
She always dresses as a pirate and hits
her best friend's house.

881
00:47:50,762 --> 00:47:52,682
Her best friend is sort of like a kept
woman.

882
00:47:52,682 --> 00:47:53,472
She doesn't work.

883
00:47:53,472 --> 00:47:55,382
Her husband is making like boatloads of
money.

884
00:47:55,382 --> 00:47:57,122
And so she loves to throw a party.

885
00:47:57,122 --> 00:47:59,010
So she goes like over the top.

886
00:47:59,010 --> 00:48:02,290
So anyways, they meet across, I can't
remember if it's like the Punchbowl or

887
00:48:02,290 --> 00:48:02,660
something.

888
00:48:02,660 --> 00:48:04,490
They're both dressed as pirates.

889
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:08,550
The banter is hysterical and they're
trying to like one up each other.

890
00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:14,170
And then she pulls off her hook to show
why she has it.

891
00:48:14,170 --> 00:48:20,230
And she looks down and he has wrapped faux
wood sticky stuff around his prosthetic

892
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:21,960
leg to make it look like a peg leg.

893
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,450
So they're like one -upping each other as
pirates.

894
00:48:24,450 --> 00:48:27,970
It's fantastic as like a meet -cute.

895
00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:31,150
The band's work is great throughout the
entire form.

896
00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:34,310
There's like, they're in the very best
shape to a time to use the wrap.

897
00:48:34,310 --> 00:48:39,470
They're like, my best friend, awesome, so
like, the best condition to have, you

898
00:48:39,470 --> 00:48:40,117
know, I don't know.

899
00:48:40,117 --> 00:48:45,217
in watch to all these previous chapters
where you don't feel like you're not

900
00:48:45,217 --> 00:48:47,717
throwing something to the table.

901
00:48:49,797 --> 00:48:53,698
When you live in a basically a typical
house.

902
00:48:53,698 --> 00:48:57,854
apartment that I had for 12 years in
Summerville, like a 375 square foot one.

903
00:48:57,854 --> 00:48:58,954
your friends and for all your partners.

904
00:48:58,954 --> 00:49:01,314
It was kind of like a trigger, I'm sure.

905
00:49:03,534 --> 00:49:07,034
And she feels personally blessed to have
been part of this.

906
00:49:07,734 --> 00:49:17,214
It was delightful and fun and I will say
it made me want to ask you guys what you

907
00:49:17,214 --> 00:49:18,658
think about...

908
00:49:19,097 --> 00:49:20,757
content learning.

909
00:49:20,757 --> 00:49:27,117
She has a content learning team and I
looked through what she had listed and was

910
00:49:27,117 --> 00:49:27,817
like...

911
00:49:27,998 --> 00:49:29,558
I don't think you need this much.

912
00:49:29,558 --> 00:49:30,758
It's kind of different stuff.

913
00:49:30,758 --> 00:49:32,918
I mean, maybe it's because I'm pretty
confidant.

914
00:49:32,918 --> 00:49:35,698
I'm a little bit of a blackbird in life.

915
00:49:35,698 --> 00:49:37,818
Yeah, that really brings you to my school.

916
00:49:37,818 --> 00:49:39,378
So thank you for like, my school.

917
00:49:39,378 --> 00:49:40,868
And I didn't have to do that before.

918
00:49:40,868 --> 00:49:44,718
I mean, it's kind of a sad thing to do.

919
00:49:44,718 --> 00:49:46,004
It's also a fun thing.

920
00:49:46,004 --> 00:49:46,518
Yes.

921
00:49:46,518 --> 00:49:49,070
But I feel like sometimes I'm like,

922
00:49:49,073 --> 00:49:55,373
I still like offer something else to
apologize for like, everyday things that

923
00:49:55,373 --> 00:49:58,093
like, I didn't contribute to.

924
00:49:59,001 --> 00:50:06,101
If we, if slash when we get some authors
on the pod, that is something that I would

925
00:50:06,101 --> 00:50:10,541
definitely like to ask about because I
don't know how author driven that is

926
00:50:10,541 --> 00:50:12,181
versus publisher driven.

927
00:50:12,181 --> 00:50:20,281
And I would like to know whether who's
pushing for that basically, because I said

928
00:50:20,281 --> 00:50:24,761
in an earlier pod, probably when we were
talking about all my rage, that there were

929
00:50:24,761 --> 00:50:28,282
quite a few things referenced in the
trigger warning section that.

930
00:50:28,282 --> 00:50:33,662
also were spoilers as well, because I
didn't know that that's what the focus was

931
00:50:33,662 --> 00:50:34,402
going to go.

932
00:50:34,402 --> 00:50:34,882
Right.

933
00:50:34,882 --> 00:50:37,145
So I feel.

934
00:50:37,145 --> 00:50:40,775
like it's really tough.

935
00:50:40,775 --> 00:50:41,665
It's really tough.

936
00:50:41,665 --> 00:50:46,845
And it's like almost like a censorship
kind of like what are, you know, and, you

937
00:50:46,845 --> 00:50:51,605
know, I think for a book like All My Rage,
especially it's like, okay, is this an

938
00:50:51,605 --> 00:50:52,005
adult book?

939
00:50:52,005 --> 00:50:53,055
Is this a young adult book?

940
00:50:53,055 --> 00:50:54,569
Like, how are we?

941
00:50:54,714 --> 00:50:55,574
to market this?

942
00:50:55,574 --> 00:50:59,914
Who are we targeting in that kind of like,
expanded growth problems?

943
00:50:59,914 --> 00:51:03,370
And so I think that's...

944
00:51:05,369 --> 00:51:08,087
guessing it's publisher driven, honestly.

945
00:51:08,246 --> 00:51:13,166
I'm like, there's a time when I used to
turn to the one that's real.

946
00:51:13,226 --> 00:51:17,286
like you don't sit up and be out with you
about like I didn't actually like what it

947
00:51:17,286 --> 00:51:21,186
was, but it's like, I don't know.

948
00:51:21,186 --> 00:51:23,766
Maybe because I read the entire.

949
00:51:23,766 --> 00:51:27,086
spectrum of stuff, like some stuff that's
like horrifying.

950
00:51:27,766 --> 00:51:30,806
For example, I won't name the book because
I can't think of the title of it, but

951
00:51:30,806 --> 00:51:35,406
Caitlin lent me a book probably about six
years ago that I took on a tropical

952
00:51:35,406 --> 00:51:36,606
vacation.

953
00:51:36,946 --> 00:51:44,426
It dealt with a, it was a young girl who I
think is like 12 in the book, maybe 13,

954
00:51:44,426 --> 00:51:48,146
who is being continually abused and raped
by her father.

955
00:51:48,146 --> 00:51:49,890
It was not tropical.

956
00:51:49,890 --> 00:51:55,070
vacation rating by any means and that one
didn't have any warnings that I can

957
00:51:55,070 --> 00:51:56,310
remember.

958
00:51:57,353 --> 00:51:59,913
the hell book was that?

959
00:52:03,073 --> 00:52:06,593
yes, that book was really well written.

960
00:52:08,673 --> 00:52:13,553
Something about my beautiful darling, my
absolute darling, my absolute darling, I

961
00:52:13,553 --> 00:52:14,314
think.

962
00:52:14,314 --> 00:52:15,070
that's me.

963
00:52:15,070 --> 00:52:21,690
warnings and I wouldn't have read it if I
had I Don't remember there being warnings

964
00:52:21,690 --> 00:52:26,490
anyways, I just feel like we've gotten to
a point where everyone is trying to be

965
00:52:26,490 --> 00:52:31,930
very like political about like I'm just
gonna warn you that like this this and

966
00:52:31,930 --> 00:52:35,370
this but it's like Like anxiety warnings.

967
00:52:35,370 --> 00:52:36,990
Okay, I don't need the warning.

968
00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:38,590
I deal with that on a regular basis.

969
00:52:38,590 --> 00:52:40,646
It's not going to trigger me by reading
it.

970
00:52:40,646 --> 00:52:41,146
I

971
00:52:41,502 --> 00:52:42,112
I don't know.

972
00:52:42,112 --> 00:52:42,978
I just...

973
00:52:44,810 --> 00:52:50,190
I think it's a tree, but I feel like
there's more to it than what it is, and I

974
00:52:50,190 --> 00:52:51,690
think that's okay.

975
00:52:52,550 --> 00:52:56,530
I just want to read the pirate meet -cute
now.

976
00:52:57,070 --> 00:53:00,546
It's so exciting how it's so hot, and how
it's so dark.

977
00:53:02,285 --> 00:53:06,805
book that I am about to start tonight,
like after we finish podcasting, this is

978
00:53:06,805 --> 00:53:11,625
my plan for the evening is called the
Friday afternoon club.

979
00:53:11,625 --> 00:53:12,657
And

980
00:53:12,657 --> 00:53:14,898
I have a bunch of bookstores to look at.

981
00:53:14,898 --> 00:53:17,678
It's pretty tight for a club.

982
00:53:17,678 --> 00:53:18,069
And.

983
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:21,029
if you don't know Griffin Dunn, you
probably do.

984
00:53:21,029 --> 00:53:27,209
He was in, he was like a background actor
in like a million eighties movies.

985
00:53:27,209 --> 00:53:31,109
And then you might know him as Uncle Nicky
on This Is Us.

986
00:53:31,389 --> 00:53:34,549
He also has like pretty famous parents.

987
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:36,549
His aunt was Joan Didion.

988
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:40,249
He directed a documentary about Joan
Didion.

989
00:53:40,249 --> 00:53:41,229
that was beautiful.

990
00:53:41,229 --> 00:53:43,289
I'm a huge Joan Didion fan.

991
00:53:43,429 --> 00:53:46,509
The documentary he did about her was
beautiful.

992
00:53:46,949 --> 00:53:53,729
He grew up in New York City, kind of like
socialite lifestyle parents, I would say.

993
00:53:53,869 --> 00:54:01,449
And I forget if he's a teenager or in his
20s, his sister gets murdered by her

994
00:54:01,449 --> 00:54:05,929
boyfriend who had been abusive, like long
-term.

995
00:54:05,929 --> 00:54:07,663
And so his parents...

996
00:54:07,705 --> 00:54:13,945
end up starting like a foundation that
raises money to one, I don't know all the

997
00:54:13,945 --> 00:54:17,665
details, but one, I think help battered
women.

998
00:54:17,665 --> 00:54:24,465
And two, I think there's a real issue of
justice in his sister's case that I don't

999
00:54:24,465 --> 00:54:29,785
really know how it gets resolved, which is
I kind of like not knowing all of the end

1000
00:54:29,785 --> 00:54:33,765
results when I'm going into a memoir like
this, but those are like the snippets of

1001
00:54:33,765 --> 00:54:34,765
what I know.

1002
00:54:34,765 --> 00:54:37,849
Like she was killed, he was an abusive
partner.

1003
00:54:37,849 --> 00:54:43,409
his parents started this foundation, it
became like a big like landmark moment of

1004
00:54:43,409 --> 00:54:44,829
his coming of age, I would say.

1005
00:54:44,829 --> 00:54:48,209
And also one of his best friends was
Carrie Fisher.

1006
00:54:48,209 --> 00:54:52,509
And there's photos of him at the premiere
for Star Wars.

1007
00:54:52,509 --> 00:54:57,089
And there are quotes of him being like,
yeah, I was at some like sci -fi movie

1008
00:54:57,089 --> 00:55:00,169
premiere that Carrie was in and like
nobody thought it was going to be

1009
00:55:00,169 --> 00:55:03,449
anything, which I think is hilarious.

1010
00:55:03,449 --> 00:55:07,153
So he's just had a lot of different
things.

1011
00:55:07,334 --> 00:55:08,454
in his life.

1012
00:55:08,454 --> 00:55:16,714
He's been on literary projects, movie
stars, his parents played really cool on

1013
00:55:16,714 --> 00:55:20,594
the play, when I would call it the true
writing scene and what really built that

1014
00:55:20,594 --> 00:55:22,214
up.

1015
00:55:22,214 --> 00:55:25,714
He was in LA, he was in New York, he went
pretty good all the time.

1016
00:55:25,714 --> 00:55:29,934
And at the same place, I just think he's
given us really interesting perspectives.

1017
00:55:29,934 --> 00:55:31,808
And it's been a direct,

1018
00:55:31,985 --> 00:55:33,803
on the Joan Didion,

1019
00:55:34,270 --> 00:55:38,770
documentary, the thing, and he's gonna
reflect his writing is going to be, it

1020
00:55:38,770 --> 00:55:41,190
should be very enjoyable.

1021
00:55:41,348 --> 00:55:43,078
very excited to read that when you're
done.

1022
00:55:43,078 --> 00:55:47,728
I just I like his whole persona like what
I've seen of him in press interviews and

1023
00:55:47,728 --> 00:55:49,808
obviously I loved him in This Is Us.

1024
00:55:50,008 --> 00:55:50,838
It's always fun.

1025
00:55:50,838 --> 00:55:55,568
I feel like when people who you encounter
in one artistic vein actually have like

1026
00:55:55,568 --> 00:55:58,988
talents in another so you know maybe
people know him from This Is Us and he

1027
00:55:58,988 --> 00:56:00,788
turns out to be a brilliant writer.

1028
00:56:00,842 --> 00:56:06,202
Also, that was reminding me, I read a Tom
Hanks collection of short stories called

1029
00:56:06,202 --> 00:56:08,212
Uncommon Type that was actually great.

1030
00:56:08,212 --> 00:56:10,702
And I was like, Tom Hanks, like you have
so many talents.

1031
00:56:10,702 --> 00:56:12,202
I don't understand.

1032
00:56:12,322 --> 00:56:16,901
In terms of what I'm reading right now,
I'm reading Not in Love by Allie

1033
00:56:16,901 --> 00:56:17,980
Hazelwood.

1034
00:56:18,142 --> 00:56:21,362
I need a doctor.

1035
00:56:21,362 --> 00:56:24,262
He directed a practical emergency room.

1036
00:56:24,262 --> 00:56:25,342
What?

1037
00:56:25,342 --> 00:56:28,882
I did not know that, but I don't have a
name.

1038
00:56:29,082 --> 00:56:29,842
I'm sorry.

1039
00:56:29,842 --> 00:56:32,402
I don't know your name, but I know your
name.

1040
00:56:33,722 --> 00:56:39,198
So I need a doctor to come in and find out
what he's doing.

1041
00:56:39,198 --> 00:56:40,358
out.

1042
00:56:40,377 --> 00:56:45,938
And I was saying right before we started
recording, I think this is in like the top

1043
00:56:45,938 --> 00:56:49,198
five spiciest books that I've ever read.

1044
00:56:49,398 --> 00:56:55,118
Like 50 Shades series is up there, of
course, but this is like descriptive,

1045
00:56:55,118 --> 00:56:56,498
let's just say.

1046
00:56:56,498 --> 00:57:02,418
And I was expecting it to some degree,
because a lot of her books are like that.

1047
00:57:02,418 --> 00:57:03,970
And I knew it would be...

1048
00:57:04,330 --> 00:57:07,810
All of Ali Hizowd's books, if you're not
familiar, have some sort of like STEM

1049
00:57:07,810 --> 00:57:11,990
sciency connection in most ways, or at
least the ones she's most famous for.

1050
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:17,950
So I was expecting that element, but this,
I don't know, it's just like hornier for

1051
00:57:17,950 --> 00:57:20,490
lack of a better word than a lot of her
other books.

1052
00:57:20,490 --> 00:57:24,760
So I'm on page like 280 out of, I think
380.

1053
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,890
So I'm in the home stretch.

1054
00:57:26,890 --> 00:57:29,290
And I'm looking forward to seeing what
happens.

1055
00:57:29,290 --> 00:57:33,010
These characters are a bit different than
typically what she writes about.

1056
00:57:33,010 --> 00:57:34,236
They both have.

1057
00:57:34,377 --> 00:57:38,257
a lot of intense value, they treat their
child sort of like they bond with them, so

1058
00:57:38,257 --> 00:57:41,957
there is some seriousness alongside.

1059
00:57:42,594 --> 00:57:44,758
I hope I'm not too close.

1060
00:57:44,758 --> 00:57:49,698
But I also brought another book with me to
this recording session because as I

1061
00:57:49,698 --> 00:57:53,258
mentioned, I was at the Buttonwood
Bookstore in Cohasset and because of

1062
00:57:53,258 --> 00:57:57,306
Caitlin, I now meander to the young adult
section in every bookstore that I'm in.

1063
00:57:58,399 --> 00:57:59,242
hooray.

1064
00:57:59,242 --> 00:58:03,482
And I was like, actually, I was like, read
this, read this, read this.

1065
00:58:03,482 --> 00:58:07,742
But then I saw this book that had this
very eye catching cover, which has pink

1066
00:58:07,742 --> 00:58:09,202
heart shaped sunglasses on it.

1067
00:58:09,202 --> 00:58:10,802
And it's called Sunkist.

1068
00:58:10,802 --> 00:58:14,182
I'm just going to read you what's on the
back of this jacket, because after I

1069
00:58:14,182 --> 00:58:16,602
finish, you'll be like, yeah, of course
you had to get this book.

1070
00:58:16,602 --> 00:58:21,002
It says Avery has always used music as an
escape, but after her best friend betrays

1071
00:58:21,002 --> 00:58:24,772
her, even her perfectly curated playlist
can't help her forget what happened.

1072
00:58:24,772 --> 00:58:28,682
To make matters worse, her parents have
dragged her to a remote family camp.

1073
00:58:28,682 --> 00:58:30,882
for two months of quote unquote fun.

1074
00:58:30,882 --> 00:58:34,102
Just when Avery's ready to give up on the
summer altogether, she meets Brooks,

1075
00:58:34,102 --> 00:58:38,722
mysterious, frustratingly charming Brooks
who just happens to be on the staff, which

1076
00:58:38,722 --> 00:58:39,982
means he's off limits.

1077
00:58:39,982 --> 00:58:43,782
As the outside world falls away, Avery
embarks on a journey of self discovery and

1078
00:58:43,782 --> 00:58:46,862
when Brooks offers her the chance of a
lifetime, she must decide how far she's

1079
00:58:46,862 --> 00:58:50,342
willing to go to find out what she wants
and who she wants to be.

1080
00:58:50,342 --> 00:58:51,502
Hello?

1081
00:58:52,922 --> 00:58:55,245
Correct, which is why I had to have it.

1082
00:58:55,245 --> 00:58:56,165
to you.

1083
00:58:57,337 --> 00:59:03,417
see okay if that one's corny I'm down
because it sounds kind of corny and it's

1084
00:59:03,417 --> 00:59:08,437
basically dirty dancing and like we
already know that story and that will be

1085
00:59:08,437 --> 00:59:12,554
like a cozy blanket on a breezy summer
night.

1086
00:59:12,554 --> 00:59:14,574
And for me, I'm the opposite.

1087
00:59:14,574 --> 00:59:17,394
I'm like, we've already done this exact
story.

1088
00:59:17,394 --> 00:59:19,459
Why are we doing it again?

1089
00:59:20,909 --> 00:59:22,829
It's all right.

1090
00:59:22,829 --> 00:59:23,952
It's all right.

1091
00:59:23,952 --> 00:59:27,032
that are like just trope after trope.

1092
00:59:27,412 --> 00:59:28,312
You know what I mean?

1093
00:59:28,312 --> 00:59:29,409
I don't know.

1094
00:59:29,409 --> 00:59:34,089
I'm like a comfort rewatcher, so in a
surprise to no one, of course I would like

1095
00:59:34,089 --> 00:59:37,609
a book that has a plot that is exactly
like something that I already love.

1096
00:59:37,609 --> 00:59:38,429
I'll let you know how it is.

1097
00:59:38,429 --> 00:59:41,881
Also, it was only $8 and I was like, I'm
having this.

1098
00:59:41,965 --> 00:59:46,085
I hope that there's like wonderful
differences.

1099
00:59:46,245 --> 00:59:46,985
You know what I mean?

1100
00:59:46,985 --> 00:59:52,001
Like it's original even though it has some
semblance of dirty dancing.

1101
00:59:52,001 --> 00:59:53,561
report back.

1102
00:59:53,941 --> 00:59:57,641
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1103
00:59:57,641 --> 01:00:00,761
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1104
01:00:00,761 --> 01:00:01,841
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1105
01:00:01,841 --> 01:00:03,101
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1106
01:00:03,101 --> 01:00:06,161
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1107
01:00:06,161 --> 01:00:07,021
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1108
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