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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are right here in this studio, right here, not there,

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<v Speaker 2>Not in the cars, Nope, not in your homes.

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<v Speaker 1>That be creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>We're technically not even in their ears. What do you mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they're just they're hearing us, but we're not there. We're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean yes, but if they have ear buds

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<v Speaker 2>in we're in their ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, right, not actually in their ear, like physically in

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<v Speaker 1>the ear, like physically.

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<v Speaker 3>Where words matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, words do matter, exact Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in the middle of a podcast. What if Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>had well, the middle of.

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<v Speaker 3>A series series.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of podcasts, And what if Jesus had a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd probably cover a lot of his famous sayings

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<v Speaker 2>and today's saying is don't be afraid to take courage.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd probably talk about his famous saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I mean, how do you know what he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, what's he going to talk about? Like bigfoot aliens?

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, but but so he of course he was

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<v Speaker 2>like his Why would you assume that you know what

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus would talk about?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I well, because he wrote it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the answer, deaf, here's the answer of what Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>would talk about anything he wants to.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, whatever Jesus wants his podcast to be about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, did everything? Did ever tell you that I was?

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<v Speaker 1>I was?

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<v Speaker 3>I was?

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<v Speaker 1>One of my roles was.

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<v Speaker 2>To coach people preaching, and one of one, one guy

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<v Speaker 2>at my previous church said the woman touched him and

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<v Speaker 2>her and she was cleansed when she touched his garment,

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<v Speaker 2>and she goes.

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<v Speaker 1>And you want to know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus turned around and he an he and he actually

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<v Speaker 2>actually like attached some sort of like custom from this

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<v Speaker 2>first century and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got done, and I looked over and I go, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>did you literally just put intent on the Son of

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<v Speaker 2>God in that moment? Like you were literally saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not mentioned, but I know what he was thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I know why he was going to do. I was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever do that again. There you go, there it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hey, today is one of our favorite segments.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh it has a jingle.

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<v Speaker 3>It has a jingle Ready are you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Mail bags?

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<v Speaker 3>There you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Which it comes out of blue clothes, by the way, blues.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how sophisticated we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, And so today comes from Alex j

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Alex. And here's what Alex writes in He says,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing a lot of well I'm assuming it's

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<v Speaker 2>a guy. It could be a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing a lot of I've been doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of walking lately.

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<v Speaker 2>It's given me time to think, pray, and occasionally wonder

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<v Speaker 2>about more the literal side of biblical journeys, which got

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<v Speaker 2>me curious. Have you ever actually walked to the historic

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<v Speaker 2>road to Damascus? If it is still even exists in

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<v Speaker 2>a traceable way? I mean, that's the spot where Saul

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<v Speaker 2>encountered Christ exclamation mark. Talk about a life changing walk.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be it'd be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Act chapter nine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorite stories where Jesus appears in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the road and says Saul, Saul, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you persecuting me? And he falls down and says,

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<v Speaker 2>who are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Lord?

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<v Speaker 1>And so let's let's talk about Let's talk about his

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<v Speaker 1>question or her question, Yes, have you ever been to Damascus?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I've never been in Damascus. I had a trip

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<v Speaker 3>lined up to go to Syria when war broke out.

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<v Speaker 3>Since then, things just haven't haven't lined up. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure I'll get there, but i haven't been there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I would love to go there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that the road, this this historic

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<v Speaker 2>road mentioned in the Bible, I'm not sure that people

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<v Speaker 2>claim that that exists.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, portions of it, I think do so. Paul is

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the Roman Empire at the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's a Roman citizen, which was somewhat rare for a

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<v Speaker 3>Jew to also be a citizen, but he was a

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<v Speaker 3>Roman citizen, which gave you know, full access to all

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<v Speaker 3>of the Roman roads. And they built these incredible road

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<v Speaker 3>networks primarily for their military, and many of these road

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<v Speaker 3>segments still exist, you know, two thousand years, three thousand

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<v Speaker 3>years late, two thousand years later, and so there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of different paths from ancient paths that are

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<v Speaker 3>still used. So it's mostly for military, but commerce was

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<v Speaker 3>a big part of that. It's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 3>why it became such a rich and powerful Empire. So

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<v Speaker 3>coming from Jerusalem up there were two paths. One would

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<v Speaker 3>cut through Samaria, go around the northern portion of Galilee,

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<v Speaker 3>and that would go through the towns that Jesus lived

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<v Speaker 3>in right up there, Capernaum and Besseta and all those,

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<v Speaker 3>and then would go through the Decapolis and up then

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<v Speaker 3>towards Damascus. The other one would come up along the

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<v Speaker 3>River Jordan and then cut through bet Sham, which you've

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<v Speaker 3>been in bete Sham, Yeah, yeah, for sure. So the

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<v Speaker 3>main road goes right down that main street. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>road that would have come from Jerusalem and cut through

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<v Speaker 3>the south. And what that did is it allowed the

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<v Speaker 3>traveler to skip walking through Samaria, which for a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the Jewish people they didn't want to walk through

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<v Speaker 3>some Maria, there were a lot of cultural issues. They

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<v Speaker 3>avoided it. So either way, very likely portions of the

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<v Speaker 3>road are there. But there's no definitive trail that I

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<v Speaker 3>know of, like there would be like a tourist trail

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<v Speaker 3>or a pilgrimage trail. But how cool would that be

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<v Speaker 3>if you could piece something like that together?

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<v Speaker 1>No, my word, I'm sure people have tried.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Alex, I read a lot and I love adventure books,

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<v Speaker 3>true adventure books. And now there's an adventurer. His name

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<v Speaker 3>is Levison Wood and he's written a couple of books,

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of books now. But Walking the Nile, he

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<v Speaker 3>walked the entire length of the Nile from the source

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<v Speaker 3>in Rwanda all the way to Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>People died on that trail, by the way, which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>He also walked to the Himalayas, so almost the full

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<v Speaker 3>length of the Himalayas. He walked through the America because

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<v Speaker 3>on the Incan trail he did. He's done, and he

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<v Speaker 3>wrote these really amazing books like that. And I've always thought,

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<v Speaker 3>how cool would that be to piece together some of

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<v Speaker 3>the ancient trails like that? And that's a brilliant idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure, you see, could you put together the

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<v Speaker 3>trail for that Paul walked on? Now in Damascus, there

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<v Speaker 3>are some historical pieces that are traditionally like the building

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<v Speaker 3>that where they let Paul out the window on in

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<v Speaker 3>a basket down the wall. Yeah, so there's a it's

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<v Speaker 3>now a church, but it was an old building that

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<v Speaker 3>they claim that that's the spot. There's a few places

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<v Speaker 3>that are traditionally what Christians have acknowledged as as memorable

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<v Speaker 3>places that Paul was in. Those are always vague, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you never know. Sure, I do know this, like in Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 3>the upper room. Did you visit the upper room? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>So that's not the upper room, right, So they admit

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<v Speaker 3>it that the building they used to say in the

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<v Speaker 3>upper room got moved, so they just now have another upper.

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<v Speaker 2>Room, right, right, So sometimes it was something got torn down, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually thought that. I actually sid out loud. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>then why are we here? Yeah, I'm like, you're showing

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<v Speaker 2>us an example of what an upper room could be.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what we have those two.

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<v Speaker 3>So upper rooms aren't well lower rooms, right ye? So anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows how many of those things are real. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think you could trace a couple of these road

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<v Speaker 3>systems and find some kind of proximity, similar to like

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<v Speaker 3>Route sixty six in America. Route sixty six was retired

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<v Speaker 3>years and years and years ago, but from Chicago to

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<v Speaker 3>Santa Monica there are segments that are still used and

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<v Speaker 3>there are parallel roads that run alongside it. You might

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<v Speaker 3>be neat to do the work, Alex and figure that

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<v Speaker 3>out and put together a trip and get a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of people walk into Damascus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, it's only about a five hour drive five or

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<v Speaker 3>six hour drive from Juice Lom today if the borders

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<v Speaker 3>were open. The borders aren't open, but so you would

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<v Speaker 3>go up and cut either on the south side or

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<v Speaker 3>the north side of Galilee through the Golan Heights and

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<v Speaker 3>then up to Damascus only about five hours, six hours.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, in thirty seconds, I'll tell you, did

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<v Speaker 2>you ever see the play, the Broadway play Hamilton?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So anyway, there's a there's aware of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Though.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a song that Aaron Burr sings, and he in

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<v Speaker 2>the entire song, he keeps on saying, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the room where it happens, right because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because Alexander Hamilton made a deal with Jefferson and he

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<v Speaker 2>was saying that he wasn't in the room and he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to desperately be in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a very famous song.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you know the Broadway play, anyway, when we

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<v Speaker 2>went to New York, I was literally in the room

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<v Speaker 2>where it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So they actually say this is what this is where

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<v Speaker 1>it took place.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was an upper room, right, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>made me think of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we went upstairs and we were there and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is the room where it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I'm not the only one who made that connection,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was kind of neat.

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<v Speaker 3>So in that Roman city bet Sheanne, on the south

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<v Speaker 3>side of Galilee, there is a main street that runs

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<v Speaker 3>straight through that connects to the road that heads up

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<v Speaker 3>towards Damascus. That could be it. You may have actually

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<v Speaker 3>walked on it, so to be specific to answer the question,

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<v Speaker 3>we may have walked on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who knows. We walked a lot of places.

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<v Speaker 3>For like half a mile, right, right, But it's pretty neat.

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<v Speaker 3>Those ruins are pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well that's uh, it's it's definitely one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most historic spots in the New Testament, Right, Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>decided to come down and choose one more apostle to

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<v Speaker 2>get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>So talking about walking, Oh yeah, so who else walked, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of people.

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<v Speaker 3>One person who was fond of walking was Jesus, and

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why we'd default toward the worst because there's

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<v Speaker 3>here you go. We are in Matthew chapter fourteen today

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<v Speaker 2>It's like girls having best friends. She's my best friend,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, it says immediately after this, Jesus insisted that

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<v Speaker 3>he was there. Alone. Meanwhile, the disciples were in trouble

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<v Speaker 3>When the disciples saw him walking on the water, they

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<v Speaker 3>to them at once. Afraid, he said, take courage, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Peter called to him, Lord, if it's really you,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me to come to you walking on the water. Yes, come,

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus said, And so Peter went over the side of

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<v Speaker 3>have so little faith, Jesus said, why did you doubt me?

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<v Speaker 3>And when they climbed back into the boat, the wind stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the disciples worshiped him. You really are the son

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<v Speaker 3>of God, they exclaimed, Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're not going to read the last couple verses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, I like those ones too.

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<v Speaker 3>After they had crossed the lake, they landed in Ganessat

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<v Speaker 3>when the people recognized Jesus. The news of his arrival

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<v Speaker 3>spread quickly throughout the whole area, and soon people were

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<v Speaker 3>bringing all their sick to be healed. They begged him

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<v Speaker 3>his robe, and all who touched him were healed.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh little bonus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So what a great story.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, I mean, if you've ever preached a sermon,

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many applications to this story.

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<v Speaker 3>One is Peter looked at the waves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Yeah, don't take your eyes off Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you take your focus off Jesus and you

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<v Speaker 2>begin to look at the world around you in the circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>you become afraid. But if you keep your eyes fixed

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<v Speaker 2>on Jesus, whatever life throws at you, uh, then you

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<v Speaker 2>you can get through, you know, through it, with God's help,

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<v Speaker 2>in God's power. And yeah, that's the classic one. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the other the other application is, uh, Jesus told

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<v Speaker 2>them that they were going to the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the lake. And then they had I guess they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe him at the beginning when he said, hey, let's go,

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<v Speaker 2>we insisted that they go to the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the lake. So that's doubting an intention of God, right there,

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<v Speaker 2>promise of God. And then another one would be Peter

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<v Speaker 2>getting out of the boat, get.

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<v Speaker 1>It out of your comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 3>We can make fun of him for thinking, but the

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<v Speaker 3>reality is before he sank, he was walking on water.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's it. It's the only human yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And and so you know, John Arperg writes a book

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<v Speaker 2>walk on water, you have to get out of the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's it's such a great title because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>most of us live our lives clinging in fear to

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<v Speaker 2>airplane a couple of times, three times, and the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of being somewhere solid, you know, your feet are on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground and then you step out into nothingness. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting because nobody well, I mean, unless you

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<v Speaker 2>have done this, you probably really don't think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But like the people who jump out before you they

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<v Speaker 2>go to your left very quickly, and then they go

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<v Speaker 2>there's just gone right, and it's like it's who you

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<v Speaker 2>just always want to throw up. You're like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that, Like that's that's what's in store for me.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode of the Bible Guys actually has sound effect.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, So you're welcome for that. Yeah yeah, yeah

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<v Speaker 3>for people eating their egg McMuffin. Yeah, big a muffin.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you chose.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, the uh, you know, but the idea like

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<v Speaker 2>what a solid into nothing and uh and I'm but

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<v Speaker 2>once I did it, once I jumped, then then I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sort of fine. I was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, okay, I'm good. Uh, I'm pretty confident

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<v Speaker 2>that this thing's going to open. And if it doesn't open,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a backup shoot and and if we both

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<v Speaker 2>at a certain altitude. So it's like, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who was strapped in my back had jumped

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<v Speaker 2>over ten thousand times, so I had I had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of confidence once I jumped, but it was the

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<v Speaker 2>actual jumping. And I just can't of age Peter coming

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<v Speaker 2>up with the idea. There's another application.

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<v Speaker 1>He came up with the idea himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Lord, let me come if that If that's really you,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to walk on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, And nobody else came up with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is so classic Peter. His personality. She's always

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<v Speaker 3>the first one to speak. He's the one who pulls

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<v Speaker 3>out the sword and cuts off the guy's ear. He's

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<v Speaker 3>he's just so just all in just I think he

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<v Speaker 3>would have been a fun guy when he wasn't mad.

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<v Speaker 3>She would have been a fun guy to hang out with,

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<v Speaker 3>right because he just does He's so impetuous and just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of spurred the moment kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's definitely that guy. And I think that, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think Peter, it was a lot like you

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<v Speaker 3>in this When somebody say, well, thank you, Jeff, Wait

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<v Speaker 3>a minute, does that make you more like Jesus? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>When when when somebody when suggests something just a little crazy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm usually the one that goes, oh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe we should do that And you're the one

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<v Speaker 3>that goes, yeah, we should do that. Yes, yes, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do all those goofy things that that's usually you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Peter is kind of that way too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's give some context to this though, So it

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<v Speaker 3>says immediately after this, that's where we started. So immediately

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<v Speaker 3>after this, what was that? That was Jesus spent five

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, five thousand men besides women and children, right, which

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<v Speaker 1>You think like twelve thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, twelve fifteen thousand probably, Yeah, that's that's incredible. They

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why they only measured men as they're

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<v Speaker 3>Ol family, right, that's what it was. In our culture today,

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<v Speaker 3>we would have said and there were five thousand families right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But they just said men because that's that's how they

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<v Speaker 3>right that Jesus had fed five thousand people right before that,

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<v Speaker 3>John the Baptist is executed. John the Baptist is Jesus's cousin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's executed right before. The people in Nazareth, where Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>And so so he needed a break in the hills,

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<v Speaker 2>is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he had he had preached so much in

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<v Speaker 3>You can imagine the highs and the lows of what's

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<v Speaker 3>He goes home and his whole village rejects him after

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<v Speaker 3>on and he feeds five thousand people. How great is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because people want to stay late in the day to

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<v Speaker 3>hear him teach. But then after they're done eating, he

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<v Speaker 3>asked him, there, he's going to leave you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey, by the way, your cousin just died.

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<v Speaker 3>Your cousin's dead. Yeah, right before that. If you, if

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of track the line, the disciples had come

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<v Speaker 3>back to tell Jesus, man, we were casting out demons

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<v Speaker 3>in your name, all these amazing things. It's high low,

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<v Speaker 3>of this, he goes, Okay, guys, let's just go to

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<v Speaker 3>lake for a while, and you guys go on to

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<v Speaker 3>the other side of the lake. And then the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>says Jesus goes up into the hills to pray, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's other times the Bible says it was his custom

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so I think he's emotionally exhausted. Clearly he's

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<v Speaker 3>physically exhausted. And his only answer was I need to

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<v Speaker 3>go spend time with my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And there's another application.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the application is, you know, we're too busy not

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<v Speaker 2>to pray. Yeah, yeah, that that famous little poem that's anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The poem says, I was so busy I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>time to pray. And then at the end of the poem,

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<v Speaker 2>the poet says, I realized that I'm too busy not

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<v Speaker 2>to pray, So it's it's just the idea that like,

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<v Speaker 2>when your life is packed full, well, the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>you should do is probably, well not probably squeeze in

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<v Speaker 2>and make time to spend time with your heavenly father,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know that matters, right, It matters when we

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<v Speaker 2>spend time with our father, our relationship with our father.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes have you ever done this? Have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever been so worried about something? And then after you pray,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, I'm not sure why, or maybe I am sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel so much better right now after you pray. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like a supernatural releasing of anxiety. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like I'm reminded that God's got this, He's in control,

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<v Speaker 2>and it recenters us, refocuses us. But more than that,

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<v Speaker 2>it just it connects us with our heavenly Father.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know how long Jesus prays, right, he

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<v Speaker 3>leaves the people. It's late in the afternoon. It's why

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<v Speaker 3>the disciples wanted Jesus to do something send them home,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's getting late and there's no food available. So

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<v Speaker 3>he does a miracle, feeds them and then sends them home.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's in the late afternoon. All the restaurants are

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<v Speaker 3>closed at this point, so the directors are closed. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no more in and out Burger, So they go home.

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<v Speaker 3>And at this point he sends them across. And then

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<v Speaker 3>it says he goes up in the mountains to pray.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't say he prays all night. It doesn't say

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<v Speaker 3>he prais non stop. But he does spend some time

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<v Speaker 3>talking to the Lord or talking to his father. And

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<v Speaker 3>then it says night fell while he was there alone.

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<v Speaker 3>So the other side of this is this solitude, this recovery.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay to recover. Uh maybe you feel you know

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<v Speaker 3>when when when it's when the it can be overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 3>just with good stuff. How many of you ever had

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you've married off your daughters, your daughters where

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<v Speaker 3>other daughter is getting married? Yeah yeah, yeah, second daughter,

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<v Speaker 3>but your first daughter you' married of, you know how

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<v Speaker 3>just exhausting. The wedding weekend is oh yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's supposed to be mostly good, right, right, He's mostly good,

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just exhausting. Sometimes even when it's great, you

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<v Speaker 3>need to take a break. I found after our big,

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<v Speaker 3>last big baptism, it was what two hundred something people

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<v Speaker 3>we baptized well, yeah, forty eight, we had this big

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<v Speaker 3>baptism event, public event. I was just wiped out. I

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<v Speaker 3>had done a lot of ministry travel, I've been doing

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things and I just was wiped out

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<v Speaker 3>and I needed a break. But I couldn't get one

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<v Speaker 3>for like several days. And then I finally I got

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of days break and it was interesting. I

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<v Speaker 3>spent a little bit of time in the word, I

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<v Speaker 3>spent some time praying, but mostly I just didn't do anything,

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<v Speaker 3>just rested right. And there's something to that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that you see this rhythm in Jesus' life, highs and lows,

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<v Speaker 3>highs and lows, and then he'll pause, and he'll go

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<v Speaker 3>up in the mountains to pray, he'll go out into

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<v Speaker 3>the desert, he'll take a break. And this is why

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible gave us a sabbath. Was you know, sabbath

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<v Speaker 3>is for man, not man. For the sabbath, Jesus said,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a gift from God to make sure that you

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<v Speaker 3>have a rhythm of getting healthy again, whether it's getting

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<v Speaker 3>healthy from all the good things happening, or getting healthy

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<v Speaker 3>from all of the bad things happening, the stressful things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's what he does. So it's in that context,

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<v Speaker 3>after he's done spending time alone, after he's done spending

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<v Speaker 3>time with his with his father, maybe other than raising

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<v Speaker 3>people from the dead, this is the most impressive miracle

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus does. I can't I can think I'm a more

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<v Speaker 3>impressive miracle. Are than raising people from the dead, feeding

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<v Speaker 3>five thousands pretty impressive? But this one is I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if a blind guy sees that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, sure, you know, walks.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe we should do a segment what's our favorite miracles?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Top five?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean it's certainly the most epic because

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<v Speaker 2>it's unexpected.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well to be the most unexpected thing. So

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<v Speaker 3>a healer heals, that's what he does. But dude, I

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<v Speaker 3>never even contemplated that you would walk on water until

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<v Speaker 3>he did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not only that, but I think you're right in

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<v Speaker 2>that he's now demonstrating he's not just lord over people,

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<v Speaker 2>He's lord over the elements of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Earth, which nobody can control.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, That's exactly where I was going is his disciples

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<v Speaker 3>had seen Jesus heal blind people and laying people and

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<v Speaker 3>deaf people. He'd see they'd seen him, do they see

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<v Speaker 3>saw him feed people with a sack lunch. But it

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<v Speaker 3>says at the end here when he gets in the boat,

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<v Speaker 3>the wind stops, and the disciples worshiped him. You really

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<v Speaker 3>are the son of God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And another version says, what manner of man is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Where even the wind and the waves obey him?

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<v Speaker 3>That's from the other Oh, that's from peace be still,

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<v Speaker 3>the peace be still. Yeah, it is just before this.

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<v Speaker 3>That peace be still moment was from the So in

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<v Speaker 3>the Book of Mark, we were just talking about this.

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<v Speaker 3>The Book of Markets, Mark four is when he says,

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<v Speaker 3>peace be still and the storm stops. Mark six is

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<v Speaker 3>when he walks on the water. So, yeah, it happened

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<v Speaker 3>just before.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know what I always wonder. It says that

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<v Speaker 2>there's high winds, and we've talked about this before, but

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<v Speaker 2>in the Sea of Galilee, it's a natural it's a

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<v Speaker 2>natural bowl where winds are like eighteen to twenty feet high.

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<v Speaker 2>And and what did I say, wins, Yeah, the waves.

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<v Speaker 1>Are that high.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can imagine if they're in a small boat.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's waves that you can't even see over,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just up and down and you're thinking you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to die, and then all of a sudden, Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>walking in the water. Well, if the water was was that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, eighteen to twenty foot waves, then here's my question.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is did Jesus walk on a level, straight

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<v Speaker 2>line and he made the wind the waves go around him?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was Jesus literally walking up and down on the waves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question, right, was he was he going

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<v Speaker 2>up twenty feet and coming down twenty feet?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, whatever it was, they could see him, yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>they thought he was a ghost, right, Yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Or he could he could make it to where the

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<v Speaker 2>waves didn't come near him, maybe right, And he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>just walking and all of a sudden, it's like he

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<v Speaker 2>just sent He's just calm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he could choose any topic for his podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, whatever he wants, whatever he wants he wants.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was convincing enough that they decided this really

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<v Speaker 3>is the son of God. The sure very emphatic moment

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<v Speaker 3>where they're like, okay, this goes beyond a normal heel

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<v Speaker 3>or he's not just doing tricks and healing people. He's

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<v Speaker 3>real and so then I love this idea, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think we can wrap up here. I love this idea

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<v Speaker 3>that Peter decided it was safer with Jesus outside the

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<v Speaker 3>boat in the middle of the storm than it was

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<v Speaker 3>to stay in through the boats from Jesus, right. And

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<v Speaker 3>so if you're in the middle of a storm right now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're in the middle of some kind of crisis,

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<v Speaker 3>it's safer closer to Jesus than it is away from Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if in that moment when you're close to Jesus,

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<v Speaker 3>if your faith falters a little bit, cry out to Jesus,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Bible says he immediately reached down and grabbed

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<v Speaker 3>Peter immediately, right. So he's the closer you are, the

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<v Speaker 3>more confident you are in Christ. But if anything falters,

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<v Speaker 3>your faith faulters a little bit, alls you do is

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<v Speaker 3>cry out, and immediately Jesus reached down grab Peter. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the same for you. So safer with him than without him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a great place to wrap up, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we will see you tomorrow on the Bible gush

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<v Speaker 1>Us