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The Tya Podcast.

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Discover the daily practice that makes spirituality actually work.

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Going beyond law of attraction to turn struggle into prosperity and success into real happiness.

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Tya is an advanced operating system for life, and you're about to learn it right now.

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David Rood, Tya Coach, Tya Geek, self-proclaimed Tya Geek.

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Well, yeah, thank you.

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I think I said it first, but you gave me the name, I have to say.

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It was not for me, but it sticks.

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But we're clarifying that you're not offended by it.

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And if you are, you'll get over it.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, I call myself tag geek, too, but you really geek out on the practice, and I love that.

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I do.

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I love that.

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I was a band geek in high school,

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so this is not really a far stretch from that,

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to be honest with you.

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Did you love being a band geek in high school?

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No, that was kind of a derogatory thing.

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Although it's funny, in my high school, the band kids didn't get that kind of flack a whole lot.

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We were kind of, nobody cared about us.

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In other schools, they got bullied because they were in band.

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And I didn't understand why, but I was fortunate.

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I never actually had to deal with being bullied because I was a musician.

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which is funny now as an adult you're like why would you bully somebody for that

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you know but when you're a high school kid it's a bit different you know so yeah

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what era were you in high school what i grew up it was like 90s yeah okay so not

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too far i was i graduated high school in late 80s so in the 80s in the south in my

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very conservative southern high school i don't remember the band people i think

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they kind of just stuck to themselves

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I couldn't tell you who they were.

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Quieter, I guess, just did their own thing.

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They certainly weren't the quote unquote cool kids that I'm aware of or the popular

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kids or any of that.

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But I don't remember bullying necessarily.

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But in the 90s, geek took on a different vibe because of all the tech geeks, right?

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And now they're running the world.

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They're our billionaires now.

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So, yeah, I think geek changed a little bit.

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But that's not what this episode is about.

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We're not here to talk about geek or no geek.

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I'm actually here to break it to David because he is a fan of

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my trance channeling of the stream and i don't really do that anymore and so i'm

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here to to break the news david that i i'm not doing that anymore oh i'm sorry uh

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well

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We kind of discussed this a little bit before we came on,

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but I am still allowing that knowledge to flow,

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but it feels so integrated these days.

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And I've said this before,

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and I went an entire year without doing it,

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and then I kind of got back into it a little bit because everybody was asking for

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it.

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I even did a live event last year in Palm Springs where everybody came to the event

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just for that.

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So I understand the appreciation behind it, but...

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I don't feel that it's serving the audience like it used to.

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The concept of trance channeling is you are taking yourself into an altered state of being.

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I like to say you're setting your ego aside and you're letting knowledge flow from

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somewhere else.

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And I have said from the very beginning that I feel like that knowledge exists

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within all of us.

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That I wasn't trying to say,

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I'm special,

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I have this,

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and you need to come and listen because you don't have access to this.

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But I do see that there's value in the fact that I have spent a lifetime listening

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to this inner voice

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And I think the difference between me and a lot of other people is that very early on in life,

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I did not really care for what I was hearing externally.

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And I wasn't hearing a lot from my parents.

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They were very disconnected from me in early life.

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I was really kind of left to my own devices.

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And I really leaned into that inner voice and kept listening and kept listening and

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kept listening.

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And then I learned to trust it because when I listened to the inner voice and

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trusted it and did,

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I won't say that was guiding me to anything,

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but just I acted on the information that it was offering.

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It always worked.

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I defied odds.

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I defied some significant odds in life listening to the inner voice more than

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listening to what was being said to me by authority figures,

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for example.

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I just kept doing that and doing that and doing that and getting bigger and bigger

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and bigger life results as a result of doing that.

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I didn't even know what channeling was for many, many years.

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And then somebody said, you're a channel.

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I went to see a psychic.

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And if you've been listening to this for a long time,

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you've heard this story a million times,

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so I won't go too deep into it.

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But the psychic said, you're a channel.

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This is what channeling is.

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And this is someone you may want to listen to.

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And the someone that she suggested was Abraham Hicks.

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And I initially was very turned off by that.

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I thought it was weird and it looked like religion to me and I'd already stepped

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away from religion until it sort of kept coming back around to me in a way that I

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felt like I could no longer avoid it.

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And Esther's sharing of Abraham made channeling for me palatable.

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And then I learned how to do it.

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I taught myself how to do it.

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I accepted that, okay, I do have this.

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I understand this information that's being shared.

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And I understand it a little differently.

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And I'm going to go out and I'm going to start sharing my own version of it.

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And where is this coming from?

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And where it was coming from was what I call source.

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And I think we're all source.

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I think we're all expressions of source.

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So we surely have access to this information, but not all at the same level, obviously.

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So that's where the stream of David came from.

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That's why there's not a name that is this entity that is a former human or some

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sort of deity or an alien.

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It's never been that.

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It has always been a stream of consciousness that's coming from me, the stream of David.

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And what came from the stream

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was the operating system that we now call TIA.

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And I think the value of everything that's been offered from them is not in what

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they're offering as much as the system that we've all created together to practice

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what they're telling us.

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which is the more you appreciate things,

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the more you understand things,

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the more you focus on the things that you want to experience and an authentic

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belief that they're already yours,

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then your life is going to get better and better and better as a result of that.

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So that's what Taya is.

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So why do we need me to go into trance to tell you that same thing over and over again now?

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And I'm asking you that question because I know you still want to hear from them.

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Welcome to being a guest on this podcast.

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Well, thank you.

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Yeah, so I know that's a good point.

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And I think that as you're saying all this,

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I think that there are...

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So to answer the question as best I can,

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I think a lot of the channeling and the stream over my few years of doing this and

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my interactions with the stream...

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has a lot to do with the,

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I think,

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the intention and this sort of work and,

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I guess,

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effort of the receiver.

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So for me,

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when I was going through the boot camp,

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for example,

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I would,

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you know,

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many times people go through these sort of programs,

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they have a bit of an ego battle or they can come face to face with their own

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shadow of their psyche or things like that.

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And we have,

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I went through quite a bit of what I could consider kind of an existential crisis

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when I was in boot camp.

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And I came up to a lot of situations – well,

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not a lot,

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but I think two times I came up to a situation where it was like a showstopper.

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I hit a roadblock.

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I didn't know which way to go.

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And many times when I was kind of needing or looking for or seeking guidance on that,

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I was pretty discerning about,

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is this a question I should ask the stream or is this a question I should ask David

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or one of the coaches or one of my Thai friends?

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And a lot of my decision,

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how I decided that,

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it's sort of like the stream wouldn't really have a human perspective of it.

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They would tell you this sort of kind of lofty, in the clouds, metaphysical kind of perspective.

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And if that helped get clarity, then that was very useful.

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I could get clarity many times from the stream that I couldn't get through any

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other human that was kind of still looking at it through their own sort of like

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opinions.

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However,

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if it was like I'm down in the dumps that one day and I couldn't figure out how to

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do it or if it was a human thing I was going through.

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then talking to like a friend like hey how do you deal with this how do you where's

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you know like uh how do you detune stuff or you know like more uh hands-on human

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approach what it would would help with that so i use both and that's why um when

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you hear me say like i still like the stream to be around it's because there's that

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aspect from the stream that you're not going to get from someone who's

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still got their human mind very present.

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Now,

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here's the catch though,

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and I can see this,

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that there are people out there who don't do the work on themselves and don't do

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the practice and don't really look inside

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and then go to the stream for the answer because they're too either lazy or don't

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have enough guts to actually work on themselves.

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So for me,

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when I was going through the practice,

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it was like when I was like in one of those roadblocks,

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first step was like internal searching and asking my own inner guidance.

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if that was not getting anywhere then i would go to like the stream or a coach but

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i was always go internal first go for myself in my own thinking so i think if a

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person is very genuine in that the stream has a great place however if they're

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looking for like a shaman to like read my tarot or something like that then that's

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not going to work because you're just it's kind of like it's like an empire strikes

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back with like

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luke skywalker goes into that swamp and dagobah and he goes to take his lightsaber

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and yoda says you don't need your weapons he says what's in there only what you

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take with you it's a bit like that if you go to the stream you're still taking

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yourself to the stream but so that's that's my opinion about it that's why i'm i'm

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not i mean i could see that the

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the channeling the trans channeling can be like a crutch for some for many actually

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well that's that's exactly because the stream is still very present i i do an hour

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a day of quiet contemplation where i absolutely am accessing that anytime i'm

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teaching if you do the sunday you come to the sunday lives about 10 or 15 minutes

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into that live you're getting that you're still getting it it's coming from my

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perspective generally every once in a while the we comes out

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automatically doing that, which is interesting.

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And it's so funny because this newer concept,

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newer mainstream concept of being non-binary is changing pronouns and all of that.

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And all of a sudden,

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I go from he,

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I to they,

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them,

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we,

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and it has nothing to do with my gender or identity or anything like that.

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It's simply that just starts to flow sometimes.

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So I'm not saying it doesn't still happen.

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I don't want to create dependency on that.

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We have created an academy.

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We have layers and levels of learning Taya from just starting out

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and beginning to figure out what conscious creation is to what I believe is the

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forefront,

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the leading edge of this type of thought,

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especially at our mastermind level.

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And we like to share that here on this podcast as well.

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So we give you all of it.

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And some of it may be so far out there that it just sounds weird or crazy or I'm

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nowhere near that yet.

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But if it's intriguing to you and if it's something that you want to give power to,

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then it's something that's going to have value for you.

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But not everybody is here on the same journey.

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I do not believe in a one size fits all.

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There's no evidence of that, right?

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There's no evidence that there's a one size fits all way of being, way of operating your life.

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There are atheists that are living perfectly happy,

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joyful,

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abundant lives that don't believe in anything.

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outside of what they see as concrete.

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There are religious people that are doing the same,

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and there are spiritual people that are going to like an Abraham Hicks weekend,

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and they're very happy in that space,

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and maybe they stay in that space forever,

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as long as they're physically manifested,

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or maybe they do that for a while and then move on to something else.

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I tend to,

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I've noticed that an aspect of my persona is that I get bored with things and I

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need something new,

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something more.

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And I moved through all these different levels.

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It started out being very just introspective for me because I didn't have access to

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metaphysical books or ideas or thoughts in the 1970s and 1980s growing up in small

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town Louisiana.

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And

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I grew up in an environment where anything along those lines would be considered

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demonic or witchcraft and was not available to me anywhere that I'm aware of.

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So I started out there.

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And then I started sampling other thoughts and ideas and reading books and studying

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other teachers and gathering from them.

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And I sort of took a lot of that as far as I could take it.

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And then I, as I explained earlier, was turned on to channeling, avoided that for a while.

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Then I really dove deep into the Abraham Hicks world.

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That was very helpful for a while.

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And then I sort of reached a plateau with that where,

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okay,

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coming to these Saturdays and listening to the tapes over and over again,

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have taken me to this space, but I know there's more than this.

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And that's why I started sharing the stream,

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not to be the next Abraham and not to criticize Abraham.

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I've always said that, that I referenced them a lot

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Because it was such a transformative part of my journey.

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And a lot of people in our world have been through that journey as well.

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But I needed to know, okay, what's beyond this?

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Because there's got to be something more than just this message.

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This message is right for someone who is in this space.

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But I needed a system.

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I needed a system to actually make those ideas a way of life.

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And so...

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I went deeper into the value of low vibration because that's really what emerged

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from my channeling was,

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hey,

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don't think that you just have to be high vibe all the time like so many people are

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saying that are starting to explore conscious creation.

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Low vibe has a lot of value.

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And it's never going to completely go away.

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You're never going to be completely finished with your low vibe experiences because

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there's a lot of expansive value in low vibration.

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So why don't we focus on all of that?

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And then from that emerged from my creative mind and the other people that were

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creating what we now call Taya With Me were the four pillars that we operate our

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lives on.

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And that has proven over these years to be everything that we really need to be on

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this ever expanding journey.

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Well,

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now I've expanded to the point where the stream is so integrated that I can teach

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and it can flow when I really let loose and allow it to.

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But.

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the trance aspect of it,

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meaning when I sit and breathe and do the we are here and kind of start speaking

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from that perspective,

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I just don't feel like I need to do that anymore.

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It just needs to happen naturally.

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And we need to appreciate that it's natural.

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And I think that the reason that I don't want to do it anymore the way that I've

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done it,

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well,

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there's two things.

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One,

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thanks to technology, we have years of recordings of that already.

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There's an entire book written from that perspective that will always be.

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The Thai practice book is channeled material.

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So you get that perspective in the book and you hear it in the audio book.

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I am in channeling mode in that book.

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And,

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do we need me to keep doing that or can we move on and focus on okay now let's take

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taya and let's continue practicing taya to the point where it's not just a practice

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it's now an operating system that's new language as of this past year that we're

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calling it an operating system it's more than just a mindset practice it's a

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full-blown

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foundational operating system that you can run your life with.

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Let's run with that.

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Nobody else is doing that.

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Let's do that.

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Let's focus on that.

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And let's create these different levels inside our academy that allow people to

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apply this from the book,

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from this podcast,

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from YouTube,

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Be intrigued by it.

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See that it works.

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Decide to give it power because everything has the power that you choose to give to it.

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And then if you really want to keep giving it power,

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go deeper and deeper and deeper into training with it,

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which is where the academy level comes in.

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And that's where being able to go really deep with it,

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own your own as you did,

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have your own trials and errors with it.

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And the errors and the trials are really where the magic is.

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You learn that in boot camp.

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And then come back around and talk to your community.

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Talk to the friends that you're making that are also practicing this in your community.

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Talk to the coaches that are talking about this stuff all the time.

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Talk to me.

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I live it all the time, every day.

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It's my whole life and it's my life's work.

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And then decide, okay, I've done the intensive program.

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I've installed this as an operating system.

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Now, where do I want to go in terms of

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What do I want to do next?

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Do I want to just take this and go live my life with it?

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And we've had plenty of people that have done that and they report back years later

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that they're still utilizing it and they will for the rest of their lives and

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they're very happy at the level they're at.

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Or do I want to go on for another year in some sort of a training program?

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Or do I want to get in a mastermind and help create this at the kind of the highest

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level of thought and really help create it for the rest of humanity that is aligned

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with it?

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Whenever I talk about creating community and expanding community and creating this

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sort of mesh or this Taya matrix,

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it's not about indoctrinating all of humanity into Taya.

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It never will be that.

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But it is about expanding our reach to appeal to more and more people that are

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asking for something like this,

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that are aligned with it.

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Always understanding that anyone that comes into our world,

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you're always choosing your next step.

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It's always up to you what you choose,

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how deep you want to go,

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whether you want to invest money in your practice or not,

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how deep you want to go in installing this.

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And we're very, very, very clear about that.

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So if we're doing that at that high level and I've got six plus years of podcasts

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where I've off and on channeled,

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I've got an entire book where the whole message is contained there.

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if I continue to do this trance channeling and do workshops and seminars where

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people are coming to hear from the stream,

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do we really need that?

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I'm not saying I'm never going to do it again.

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I'm just throwing an idea out there that this is kind of where I am right now,

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that I am moving on from the stream of David.

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It's the foundational,

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it's never going to go away,

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but you know,

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the stream of David is no longer the title of this podcast.

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intentionally because the stream of David has delivered clarity for us.

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We know what that source-driven message is, and it's not very complicated.

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It's pretty damn simple.

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Source is appreciation of all things, period.

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And if you want creation to happen in your life,

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creation is always going to happen in the space of appreciation,

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not fear,

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not judgment,

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not worry,

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not doubt,

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not resistance,

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period.

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So then the hard part is,

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okay,

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we've been brought up in this matrix that operates in opposition to that,

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really opposite of that.

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How do we continually detune the matrix,

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detune our ego,

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shrinking those things to their proper perspective and allow ourselves to live more

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source-driven lives for the rest of our lives?

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I mean, I think you made a point earlier about not wanting to create dependency.

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on the stream and i i feel like that's kind of the responsibility of the consumer

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actually because you know i could become dependent on you know uh i could go back

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and listen to all the podcasts and okay let me put this way if i'm going if i'm

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listening to the stream or listening to the podcast with the mindset of

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I don't know what I'm doing and I can't figure it out.

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So I'm going to go somewhere else for help because I don't trust my own sort of guidance.

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Well, that would be kind of misguided and I could see that backfire.

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But if I'm looking for more clarity,

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because there are things I don't understand,

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there are still things that,

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um,

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you know uh there's there's more layers to find and i think that that's a very

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valid useful tool i think there's some merit also to keeping the practice and the

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whole approach very pure uh because and as as simple as possible because um

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Sometimes when our egos get involved, we like to overcomplicate things.

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We start to add stuff.

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Well,

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some people like something that sounds very mystical and complicated and use a lot

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of scientific language.

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And the stream has always said the universe is actually very simple.

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Yeah.

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All creation is a product of consciousness first and consciousness is impacted by polarity.

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Yeah.

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as a growth as an expansion tool really but we don't understand polarity here

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because we're so busy judging the challenge oh life is so hard earth is so terrible

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humans are so evil you know we have all these labels that the matrix throws out

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there and it's so prevalent yeah the ones high up i think really in the mastermind

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group like the coaches like me and you and like derek and matt like all of us carry

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we're all really in this i don't think we're doing that we're like

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Why do I still think that way?

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Oh, well, yeah.

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That's the goal here is to not blame external sources for anything.

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Because when you're doing that, you're giving your power away.

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And anybody that's interested in this practice or this operating system,

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I should say,

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because it's morphing from a practice to an operating system.

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Anybody that's interested in this...

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needs to understand that that should be where you want to go.

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If you're into this, if you're not into it, it's so easy to step away from it.

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I get critics all the time on social media.

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Oh, this is a cult.

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This sounds like X, Y, Z. You're ripping off somebody else.

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I hear all of that stuff.

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And they haven't even bothered to really learn what it's all about.

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They're just being internet trolls and trolls do what they do.

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But understanding that

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We're not trying to recruit people into this saying that this is the only way and

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that everybody should do this this way.

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I'm very clear that this is creative for people like all of us who have explored

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and been on a journey and now want a foundational system to operate their lives by

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that allow you to function on that journey and continue to expand in your journey

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for the rest of your life.

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That's why we say fall in love with the work because you're never finished with it.

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There's always going to be some other level,

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but it's not always the external things as much as it's inward,

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inward,

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inward,

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inward.

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This practice starts taking you really deep inward and you start to activate your

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own version of source and get your own clarity.

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But it's okay to come back around and say, okay, I'm getting from...

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my quiet contemplation time that this is the path to detune or get to this next

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level what do you all think there's a lot of value in that group thought absolutely

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there is yeah

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Well,

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when I first started listening to your podcast back in 2019,

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the thing that actually convinced me that the stream was legit is because they said

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very explicitly,

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if this doesn't make sense to you,

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you're right to walk away.

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And that to me is kind of like the gold standard with any sort of teaching is this

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idea that if this isn't a fit for you,

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There's no mandates.

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You don't have to do this.

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Well, there's a lot of power in creating a mandate.

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We see that in religion.

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Believe this or you're going to burn in hell, that sort of thing.

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But I just have not found that to be true.

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So how in the world could I possibly utilize that in a spiritually-based,

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which has now become a psychology-based slash scientific-based because we see

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elements of all of those things

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we see the value in all of those things coming into the practice or the system and

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my meeting michael was certainly no accident and michael and i sort of coming at it

(00:26:41):
from different perspectives you know he's a psychologist but he is a

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mindfulness-based psychologist for sure but he sees the value for someone who is

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choosing to believe this and give this power

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in going beyond radical acceptance to radical appreciation.

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That's where psychology and therapy and all of those things have to stop because

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they don't know what your belief system is.

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They're not impeding on religious beliefs and things like that.

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And so they're not going to tell somebody who has suffered PTSD to appreciate the

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thing that's causing the PTSD.

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And I understand why they stopped there.

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And that's the psychology has its place.

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Therapy has its place.

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because we're not that we have the the the luxury is probably not the best word but

(00:27:32):
we have the advantage of going beyond that to hey why not full-blown appreciation

(00:27:38):
of that thing oh but it was so terrible it was so traumatic you don't understand

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how horrible well you know i do understand even if i haven't personally experienced

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exactly what someone else experienced

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I absolutely have experienced things that people would say were traumatic experiences.

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Yeah.

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In my lifetime, I've had a knife pulled on me.

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I've had a gun pulled on me.

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I've had a mother tell me that she wishes I was never born and wishes I was dead

(00:28:08):
and didn't speak to me for the last part of her life.

(00:28:10):
I've had unsavory things happen in my life.

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So I have been there.

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I have been flat broke not knowing where my next meal was coming from.

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I have experienced these things.

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So...

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I could very easily look at those things and choose the victim path and say those

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were terrible,

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awful,

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horrible things.

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I have had,

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for lack of better terminology,

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I've had sexual encounters with adults when I was a young child.

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I've had those things happen.

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I could choose to look at those things as something that I was a victim of,

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but I've just really never chosen that.

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And what it does is it's allowed me to reframe all of those things as just

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experiences that I moved through.

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And some of them were terrifying in the moment, painful, hard to move through.

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But gosh,

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every single thing that I endure and move through,

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I understand now expands my consciousness,

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makes me a wiser version of me because now I know what it's like.

(00:29:11):
And I've had the experience and I'm just choosing not to judge it as something that

(00:29:15):
shouldn't have happened or should not be or shouldn't exist.

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Spirituality promised a new earth that never materialized.

(00:29:41):
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(00:29:51):
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There's part of me,

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when you want to teach this to other people,

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and when I left my corporate job to do this full time,

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there was part of my ego that wanted to share this with the world from a very

(00:30:46):
ego-driven perspective of,

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wow,

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I really have the answers to everything.

(00:30:50):
I still feel like I do, but I understand now it's not my place to share that with the world.

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I could very easily be a guru who is on social media with a million followers doing

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what those folks do,

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but they're also creating dependency on that message to get that level of

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following,

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and they're keeping it in a certain lane.

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And that lane works.

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And I'm not saying they're bad.

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I'm saying that lane exists to serve people who are in that stage,

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whether those people choose to be in that stage indefinitely or if it's just a

(00:31:24):
phase that serves them.

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I think that they all exist for a reason.

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They're all great.

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Keep doing what you're doing.

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What you're doing is wonderful.

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Not everyone is going to continue to move through...

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I'm sounding very arrogant again here,

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but...

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I can acknowledge that everyone that's in our world has sampled these things and

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experienced them and moved through them.

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And then they sort of get to this point where, okay, I want to know what's next, what's more.

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And,

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That's our people, right?

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And everybody's not there and not everybody's going to get there.

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But those are our folks.

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And that's who we're here for.

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And I can't be here for them and still be trying to save people from themselves or

(00:32:10):
teach Law of Attraction 101 or I heard a term the other day,

(00:32:15):
love bomb people.

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Sometimes I'm on these podcasts and I'll hear it.

(00:32:18):
Hi, everyone.

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We love you so much.

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Hi, lovely, beautiful souls and all that stuff.

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And I'm kind of like, okay, you know, if that's your thing, that's cool.

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But that's, you know, I...

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I understand the need for people to feel that loving warmth and that nurturing sometimes.

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I have needed that at times,

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not in a long time,

(00:32:39):
but I have been there where I needed that from something.

(00:32:41):
If you're not getting it from your family and you're not giving it to yourself,

(00:32:45):
it feels good to hear it from somebody else.

(00:32:47):
Our message is always,

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let's teach you how to do that for yourself so that you don't need that from

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anybody else.

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And maybe that's just not where you are.

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And I, again, 2019, I said it, I'm still saying it in 2026.

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If that's not where you are and this isn't for you,

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then you're right to turn it off and walk away from it.

(00:33:05):
You're just not at the space in your.

(00:33:07):
and wherever you are and maybe you're believing that you're beyond this and that's

(00:33:11):
okay too but this is this is our lane this is what we do and i would rather stay in

(00:33:16):
this lane and do this better than anybody that i'm aware of to the best of my

(00:33:20):
ability because i believe that's how we're serving the people that choose this as

(00:33:25):
their system yeah no that's all fair i think it makes sense i think the main i see

(00:33:33):
you know i'm thinking like what are the sort of two most

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common struggles I see with the people and like in the,

(00:33:43):
in the clients I work with in the,

(00:33:44):
in the price exchange program,

(00:33:46):
and then conversations I had with other Thai folk is that I think the two areas

(00:33:50):
that seem to come up the most are,

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um,

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sustaining the practice as in doing the work.

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Maybe Matt has said many times,

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like when you feel like things are going well and you're really like,

(00:34:05):
you know, like you're on a roll, that's when you keep doing the practice.

(00:34:10):
Well, the problem is when life gets really good, then we think, oh, this is great.

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I'm going to really relax around my practice.

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And then it starts to fall apart and you suddenly need to get back in.

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And the spin out, that's called a spin out and spin out's part of it.

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Yeah.

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You know,

(00:34:23):
there's always some area of my life where I am spun out and I will always tell all

(00:34:26):
of you where I'm spun out.

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Right now, it is not in happiness.

(00:34:30):
It is not in relationships.

(00:34:31):
It is not financial at all.

(00:34:33):
Right now where I'm spun out is health.

(00:34:36):
I put a lot of weight back on during COVID and I was really getting back into shape

(00:34:40):
at the beginning of last year.

(00:34:41):
And then I got so hyper focused on creating this new technology that we're using

(00:34:48):
now that is wonderful.

(00:34:52):
I got so hyper focused on that, I started letting the health go again.

(00:34:56):
And now in 2026,

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my intention for this year is,

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okay,

(00:35:00):
we've created,

(00:35:01):
not I,

(00:35:01):
we,

(00:35:02):
we have created this incredible technology where anybody can go to tieacademy.com,

(00:35:07):
take that little three question survey,

(00:35:09):
and it starts you on a journey.

(00:35:12):
into our world and you can and if you get derailed,

(00:35:16):
if you spin out of our world,

(00:35:18):
you can go right back to tie academy dot com and start over again.

(00:35:21):
And then it's going to logically take you.

(00:35:24):
There's all this conditional logic that's built into it now that's logically going

(00:35:29):
to take you where you want to go next,

(00:35:31):
depending on how deep you want to go,

(00:35:34):
how committed you are to going there and how ready you are to invest money or not

(00:35:39):
in it.

(00:35:40):
And there is a path for everyone.

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And so I love that we've built that because we're serving everybody in terms of

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readiness,

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financial ability,

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and just willingness to really put time into this.

(00:35:56):
So our system is built now for that,

(00:35:58):
but it took a long time and a whole lot of work to get it all built.

(00:36:02):
And I got so excited and so hyper-focused on that, that I stopped going to the gym

(00:36:08):
And my eating, which was so clean, kind of unraveled a little bit.

(00:36:12):
And my body is giving me feedback of that now that,

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hey,

(00:36:15):
you know,

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you need to focus on your health a little more.

(00:36:18):
So that's my thing now where I'm spun out that I will start paying attention to.

(00:36:22):
And as soon as I get that plate spinning, something else will spin out.

(00:36:25):
But I love this because I know that that's how creation occurs.

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That stress testing happens.

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your system on a continual basis is why low vibration exists and why we always have

(00:36:42):
challenges no matter what.

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I promise you,

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the people that are placed on a pedestal as being the most successful humans we

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know of,

(00:36:51):
the Elon Musks,

(00:36:53):
the Jeff Bezos,

(00:36:54):
the Beyonce's of the world,

(00:36:56):
all of those people have plenty of things stressing them out in their lives or at

(00:37:02):
least creating challenges in their lives right now.

(00:37:07):
Everybody does.

(00:37:08):
We're all here for that.

(00:37:10):
As soon as you check off all the boxes that the matrix tells you you're supposed to

(00:37:14):
check off,

(00:37:15):
you've got money,

(00:37:16):
you've got security,

(00:37:17):
you're educated,

(00:37:18):
you're intelligent,

(00:37:19):
you're meditating,

(00:37:20):
you're grounded,

(00:37:21):
your relationships.

(00:37:22):
As soon as you think everything is working,

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something is going to happen that's going to challenge you yet again.

(00:37:28):
And it's very easy to slip back into the,

(00:37:30):
oh gosh,

(00:37:30):
I've done all this work and I've got all these things and I'm really signaling

(00:37:35):
everything the matrix says I'm supposed to be.

(00:37:37):
Why this?

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Why now?

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Why me?

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Why a challenge?

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And it's because the universe is designed to continually keep us in a state of

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challenge,

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not in a state of stress,

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because the stress is chosen via the judgment of the challenge.

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It is, yeah, yeah.

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It doesn't have to be stress, but it is, yeah, challenges.

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That's a good way to put it.

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The other thing that I see a lot in my own personal practice and with my clients is

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people who sometimes –

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They know that there's something standing in the way in their thinking,

(00:38:16):
but they can't see their own operating system enough to really identify where it

(00:38:21):
is.

(00:38:21):
And I do have this with clients sometimes where that's why when I'm doing coaching,

(00:38:26):
I'm 100% focused on listening to like trying to

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listen to the thinking behind whatever they're saying and try to see where the,

(00:38:34):
the thought process of how things are connecting.

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And it's, what I'm talking about is our blind spots.

(00:38:40):
We all have blind spots.

(00:38:42):
Well,

(00:38:43):
it's helpful to have interaction with other people around your blind spots because

(00:38:46):
sometimes it's,

(00:38:47):
you're so in your own head in your own space that other people can detect things

(00:38:52):
and point things out because they're getting a more limited experience.

(00:38:55):
version of you, they can detect it and pinpoint it better than you can.

(00:38:59):
That's why coaching is so popular now because coaching is very valuable.

(00:39:03):
If you're working with a coach who is sincere and sincerely attempting to assist

(00:39:11):
you in some way rather than just,

(00:39:13):
you know,

(00:39:14):
and that's,

(00:39:16):
that was actually coming back to what we started this whole conversation about.

(00:39:19):
That was the benefit of the stream.

(00:39:21):
because the stream had no agenda for trying to like get me to do one thing to sign

(00:39:27):
up for another coaching or something.

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Stream was like, I could just say, and that was like my kickoff call with bootcamp.

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uh i remember like we were the idea was to identify your three root transgressors

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you're going to work on a boot camp and the stream just said like so what were your

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early childhood memories and i kind of just went in this like i saw the recording i

(00:39:44):
wouldn't like this 10 minute like sort of like talking of stuff and i i was just

(00:39:48):
sort of going and then they said well you you're right transgressors are blank

(00:39:52):
blank blank and they just like this your three roots and i was like oh

(00:39:56):
where'd she come up with that and they said something like well we just asked you a

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simple question you talked for 10 minutes and we you know something like that you

(00:40:03):
know but i think that that's the that is the that's the one thing that i i still

(00:40:08):
feel that the channeling can deliver that a human can't because a human is always

(00:40:15):
going to have some subconscious opinion or agenda

(00:40:21):
As much as we have good intentions,

(00:40:23):
like I'm always like when I'm teaching or coaching or anything,

(00:40:25):
it's always to help the student first.

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And that's my genuine intention.

(00:40:31):
But there's still every human is going to have some subliminal subconscious.

(00:40:38):
I mean, my goal in my channeling was always to get my ego out of there completely was the goal.

(00:40:44):
And I think by and large, my channel, there wasn't.

(00:40:47):
much david left at all there but i do see with other channels that and i and i

(00:40:55):
would be remiss to say that i have any ego there because i see that in other

(00:40:58):
channels where there's definitely a line they won't cross and that's the ego back

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there not wanting to go into certain topics

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Right.

(00:41:12):
Limiting the channel message.

(00:41:13):
And I believe in the purity of I can't speak about every channel.

(00:41:18):
I haven't listened to every channel.

(00:41:19):
You know,

(00:41:19):
the channels that I listen to,

(00:41:21):
I know that like Abraham Hicks,

(00:41:24):
for example,

(00:41:25):
still has some Christian.

(00:41:28):
There's some of Esther's maybe Christian,

(00:41:32):
I don't even know if it's upbringing,

(00:41:34):
but it's sort of a Christian,

(00:41:35):
at least adjacent belief system.

(00:41:37):
When I used to listen to it,

(00:41:38):
I haven't listened to it in a while,

(00:41:39):
that was still a little woven into that.

(00:41:41):
And I think it's because they were speaking to an audience

(00:41:44):
That was probably a post-Christian audience by and large.

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And they were being,

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and I'm not saying that this is,

(00:41:50):
you know,

(00:41:52):
malintent at all,

(00:41:53):
but they're understanding who their audience is and still projecting to that

(00:41:57):
audience in a way that they can receive it,

(00:41:59):
which is not bad.

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Again,

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that's probably why it worked for me at that time is that in the beginning,

(00:42:05):
I thought it was very Christian.

(00:42:06):
And I realized, okay, this isn't really that.

(00:42:07):
They just sort of market it that way.

(00:42:09):
Because that ask in his given book cover seemed very Christian.

(00:42:14):
He has the dove flying and all that stuff.

(00:42:16):
And so once I detuned my judgment of that, I got into it.

(00:42:21):
But I still heard that woven into Abraham's message.

(00:42:25):
And then I, again, seek to detune judgment when I discover judgment.

(00:42:30):
Okay, they're speaking to a certain type of audience here.

(00:42:34):
They're not trying to be a one-size-fits-all, nor should you be.

(00:42:38):
to everyone because they're just we're not in a one size fits all world.

(00:42:41):
So that makes sense.

(00:42:42):
So I understand what you're saying,

(00:42:43):
because the David mind is always going to say,

(00:42:47):
you know,

(00:42:47):
there's value in Thai Academy.

(00:42:50):
There's value in taking that because I do believe there is.

(00:42:53):
But I think for someone who's new to this,

(00:42:58):
you can't help in this day and age but think,

(00:43:01):
OK,

(00:43:02):
this guy's just trying to get me to take his expensive program.

(00:43:06):
Yeah, that's what I thought.

(00:43:12):
We have a very expensive program.

(00:43:14):
And that supports this work.

(00:43:17):
And I like to be very transparent about that.

(00:43:20):
That's okay.

(00:43:21):
I like to be transparent about it because it's okay for you to be skeptical because

(00:43:25):
there's certainly...

(00:43:25):
I have...

(00:43:28):
rubbed elbows with lots of people in the coaching industry.

(00:43:31):
And of course, that industry was already well on its growth pattern when I got into it.

(00:43:38):
I was skeptical of it.

(00:43:40):
When I got on the person that taught me how to do a coaching online coaching,

(00:43:45):
I was very like,

(00:43:46):
oh,

(00:43:46):
no,

(00:43:47):
no,

(00:43:47):
no,

(00:43:47):
I'm not going to be that.

(00:43:48):
I'm not going to be one of those cheesy coaches that's teaching people to get rich quick.

(00:43:52):
We can, you know, no, no, no, no.

(00:43:54):
I remember the videos I used to see of these folks and I'm not going to be in front

(00:43:56):
of the Lamborghini.

(00:43:58):
I'm going to teach you how to be a millionaire, you know, and she handled me so well.

(00:44:03):
I was so and I knew she was handling me, but I was so impressed in the moment.

(00:44:06):
She kind of said, actually, you need to go meditate about this.

(00:44:10):
And she really put me in my place.

(00:44:12):
And I got off the meeting and I went and meditated about it.

(00:44:15):
And I'm not kidding to this day.

(00:44:17):
I've told the story a million times.

(00:44:19):
The stream came through and the message was, hey, dumbass.

(00:44:23):
You want to teach people how to make this what we now call a system because you're

(00:44:28):
a systems guy.

(00:44:29):
You want to take all these lofty teachings and make it a daily system.

(00:44:33):
This is how you do that.

(00:44:35):
Stop being judgmental of this.

(00:44:37):
Stop being fearful around money.

(00:44:40):
I gave her $15,000.

(00:44:42):
I took her program and I never look back.

(00:44:45):
I don't regret it.

(00:44:47):
I would pay $100,000 for that now easily.

(00:44:50):
I do feel there's an honesty in the stream.

(00:44:52):
I don't talk about other channels.

(00:44:52):
I don't want the stream.

(00:44:54):
I feel there's an honesty in the stream that you're never going to get from a human.

(00:44:58):
And that was the other thing,

(00:45:00):
too,

(00:45:00):
is I never asked the stream anything that I wasn't prepared for a brutally honest

(00:45:07):
answer.

(00:45:08):
And I was prepared that they could tell me something I really don't like.

(00:45:12):
Yeah.

(00:45:13):
Yeah,

(00:45:14):
the deal I made with them,

(00:45:15):
because the first time I channeled ever was the very first episode of this podcast.

(00:45:22):
It used to be called the Stream of David,

(00:45:23):
but now you find it as the Taya podcast,

(00:45:26):
not the Taya practice podcast.

(00:45:28):
That's something we did for a minute and stopped.

(00:45:30):
There's only a handful of episodes of that.

(00:45:32):
the taya podcast is is the podcast that used to be the stream of david and so there

(00:45:36):
are people uh robin who just graduated uh high stakes change she went back and

(00:45:41):
listened from day one and is listening to the entire people do that yeah if you

(00:45:46):
want to hear the whole journey of the stream from the very first time i channeled

(00:45:51):
through all of the iterations of hey i'm doing a boot camp and hey it's called

(00:45:56):
In the beginning,

(00:45:56):
it was called abundance breakthroughs and then it was Taya and then it was this and

(00:45:59):
it was that.

(00:45:59):
And then my house burned down.

(00:46:00):
And,

(00:46:01):
you know,

(00:46:01):
all of these things that I went through in my journey to arriving here,

(00:46:06):
that's all archived.

(00:46:07):
If you're interested in all of that, it's there.

(00:46:09):
Yeah.

(00:46:10):
So it's you brought up a very interesting point.

(00:46:14):
I'm glad that you did it.

(00:46:15):
Maybe that's something that we need to think about.

(00:46:18):
If you feel like you are best served from hearing from trance channeling that is

(00:46:23):
brutally honest,

(00:46:24):
because my trance channeling could absolutely get me into a lot of trouble.

(00:46:29):
Yeah.

(00:46:30):
And I don't care, but you know, it's, it's, they'll be very honest about things.

(00:46:37):
That's always why I ask.

(00:46:38):
Cause I would rather the honest smack in the face.

(00:46:42):
Yeah.

(00:46:42):
than to not know.

(00:46:44):
Yeah.

(00:46:45):
And I believe I'm capable of doing that without trance,

(00:46:48):
just like I'm capable of sitting here talking about pricing and coaching programs

(00:46:52):
and what's real and what isn't and what you should do,

(00:46:54):
you know,

(00:46:55):
all of that,

(00:46:56):
that most people in my position don't ever talk about.

(00:46:58):
Right.

(00:46:59):
I still,

(00:47:00):
I do feel there's space for the channeling in going forward in the practice for

(00:47:08):
that reason,

(00:47:09):
like a sailor cat keeps the North star.

(00:47:13):
insight you know and there is value to that because that and i think i what i think

(00:47:19):
it sounds to me like what we want to steer away from is the gimmicky showmanship

(00:47:25):
aspect of it i have talked about internally recently about creating this sort of

(00:47:31):
taya network or mesh or matrix whatever you want to call it and it's about

(00:47:39):
exposing this to more and more people who will be aligned with it.

(00:47:44):
And we're doing more marketing and ads and things right now just to reach more people.

(00:47:49):
And the reason that we're doing that is not to convert people to Thaiism and say

(00:47:54):
that this is the only way you have to do it.

(00:47:56):
But I do see value and I've detuned my judgment of spending money on things like

(00:48:00):
that because I haven't in a long,

(00:48:01):
long time.

(00:48:02):
But now I see that we've built this fantastic technology and I want more people coming into it.

(00:48:08):
that are aligned with it, because I think there's value in this, not just for us individually.

(00:48:14):
And I know this is my ego.

(00:48:16):
I believe there is value in this for more and more and more of humanity to practice this.

(00:48:24):
The stream would not say that more and more of humans need to practice this.

(00:48:29):
The stream will say,

(00:48:30):
as you become wiser versions of yourselves,

(00:48:33):
more and more people are going to do something along these lines.

(00:48:36):
Understand that appreciation of all things is really where it's at.

(00:48:40):
But everyone is on their own journey and not everybody's on that path and not

(00:48:45):
everybody is,

(00:48:48):
people need to find their own way to it.

(00:48:50):
Yeah.

(00:48:51):
So the stream would say, just do your thing.

(00:48:55):
And I've done that for years.

(00:48:56):
Just do your thing and the right people will find their way to it.

(00:48:59):
And I did that.

(00:49:01):
And now I'm changing my tune a little bit by saying, but my ego still wants to do more of this.

(00:49:08):
I don't want to just be organic because when I go do a TikTok,

(00:49:12):
I know how to get a lot of views on TikTok and it's to sort of play the victim

(00:49:17):
thing.

(00:49:17):
You know, oh, they're out to get you.

(00:49:19):
Everyone's out to get you.

(00:49:20):
That does very well on TikTok.

(00:49:22):
You know,

(00:49:22):
I've done a couple of videos that kind of frame that a little bit and that's what

(00:49:26):
gets the most views.

(00:49:27):
I don't want to do that.

(00:49:28):
You know,

(00:49:28):
I would rather put a video out that gets a handful of views of people who really

(00:49:32):
get it than it gets a million views.

(00:49:35):
So how is this going to really mesh and grow and expand unless we get more creative

(00:49:43):
with how we share it?

(00:49:46):
Not in a you have to do this way,

(00:49:47):
but I like bringing my human ego and my creative mind back into this and not just

(00:49:53):
saying,

(00:49:53):
hey,

(00:49:53):
man,

(00:49:53):
I'm just going to sit on a mountaintop and I'm going to channel source and people

(00:49:57):
that want to come to the mountaintop can listen and gather around.

(00:50:00):
There's plenty of people doing that.

(00:50:01):
I think that's fine.

(00:50:02):
I don't want to do that.

(00:50:03):
I want to.

(00:50:04):
I have creative abilities.

(00:50:06):
I have knowledge now of technology.

(00:50:09):
I have the funding to be able to to invest in this and put it out there and then

(00:50:15):
exchange that investment with people that want to come and pay for training that's

(00:50:21):
going to benefit them.

(00:50:22):
And that's what the exchange is.

(00:50:24):
And I'm very transparent about that.

(00:50:27):
And the system that we built is designed to be very clear that you invest when you

(00:50:32):
want to invest.

(00:50:33):
You go deeper when you want to go deeper.

(00:50:35):
No one's going to tell you you have to go away from our world because you're not

(00:50:39):
yet ready for any of those things.

(00:50:41):
But we're also creating a path where the academy level work for anybody that really

(00:50:45):
wants to do this will be inevitable.

(00:50:47):
But it will also be something that pays for itself many times over.

(00:50:50):
And we'll demonstrate that over and over and over again.

(00:50:53):
So that's my transparency about coaching and about why things cost money.

(00:50:59):
A lot of people think anything spiritual should never cost money.

(00:51:03):
If I do anything that's sponsored right now on Meta,

(00:51:05):
oh,

(00:51:06):
this is just a sales pitch for your thing.

(00:51:09):
Well, yeah, I'm sharing my thing with you.

(00:51:11):
If you want to get in and get involved, then that's why I'm paying for an ad.

(00:51:15):
Of course, what pays for the ads?

(00:51:16):
People that choose to take the bigger programs.

(00:51:19):
What do they get from the bigger programs?

(00:51:20):
We always ensure that we're delivering

(00:51:23):
many times the investment in terms of what you get back.

(00:51:27):
And I have a trust pilot that keeps us honest with that.

(00:51:31):
You know,

(00:51:32):
the sentiment I would kind of,

(00:51:34):
I guess,

(00:51:35):
wrap up along that about the money thing is when people do say that,

(00:51:38):
you know,

(00:51:38):
as you said,

(00:51:39):
like they judge the fact that you

(00:51:41):
Yeah, it should all be free.

(00:51:42):
I should manifest my money.

(00:51:44):
And I've done that for years.

(00:51:45):
I have lived years where I shared this and never took a dime from it.

(00:51:48):
So I've lived that.

(00:51:49):
I know I can do that.

(00:51:51):
But do I want to keep doing that or do I want to turbocharge it?

(00:51:53):
What were you going to say?

(00:51:54):
I apologize.

(00:51:54):
Well,

(00:51:55):
the quote comes from Wallace Wattles,

(00:51:59):
one of his books,

(00:52:01):
I think it was Science of Being Great or something like that.

(00:52:07):
If you take the analogy of a book,

(00:52:09):
i have a book and i sell it at the store for 20 how much money did it cost for the

(00:52:15):
paper and the ink it's like pennies and i've made a huge profit is that fair but if

(00:52:21):
the ideas give the reader the ability to make millions of dollars and they only

(00:52:26):
spend 20 dollars in the book is that fair what's the

(00:52:30):
actually it doesn't matter if the if you get a profit from something but it

(00:52:34):
benefits the reviewer the the the consumer if they take it and they better

(00:52:39):
themselves for it it's fine um if i coerce someone to buy my book that's not of any

(00:52:45):
value then maybe i have wronged them but if i make you know then but but this is

(00:52:49):
not i i've been nothing i don't i don't believe anything survives for years that is

(00:52:55):
just a i just want to take people's money

(00:52:59):
I know a lot of coaches and a lot of people that are functioning,

(00:53:02):
making millions of dollars coaching.

(00:53:04):
It's a very lucrative thing to do.

(00:53:07):
And there's a lot of people in it.

(00:53:08):
Most people don't get there.

(00:53:10):
And a lot of people that get there thinking,

(00:53:12):
I'm just doing this because I know I can make a lot of money doing it.

(00:53:16):
Those folks don't stick around very long because if you don't have what we call

(00:53:20):
social proof that your thing works,

(00:53:23):
people are going to be very concerned about investing money in it.

(00:53:27):
And they should be.

(00:53:29):
And the last thing I would ever want to do is take somebody's money knowing that

(00:53:33):
I'm not going to give them 10 times that value or more back.

(00:53:39):
When I was in retail,

(00:53:40):
there were absolutely people sitting around that boardroom with me in retail that

(00:53:43):
only cared about the bottom line.

(00:53:46):
And I told everyone that worked for me that everything is an exchange.

(00:53:51):
And once we take somebody's money, it's our job to make them happy.

(00:53:57):
Some people you're never going to make happy.

(00:53:58):
That's just the way it is.

(00:53:59):
That's a small percentage.

(00:54:01):
Most people,

(00:54:01):
if we've taken their money,

(00:54:03):
it is our job now to make them happy,

(00:54:05):
to deliver on the promise.

(00:54:07):
And if you don't deliver on the promise in today's world, you're out of business pretty quickly.

(00:54:12):
That's just the way it is.

(00:54:14):
And that includes the coaching industry.

(00:54:16):
The coaching industry is maturing now.

(00:54:18):
It blew up.

(00:54:18):
It started before COVID.

(00:54:20):
It absolutely blew up during COVID.

(00:54:22):
And now we've seen the fallout from it.

(00:54:25):
The people that survived,

(00:54:27):
that blew up during COVID,

(00:54:29):
that survived post-COVID,

(00:54:31):
those people are offering something of real value,

(00:54:33):
in my opinion.

(00:54:35):
in my opinion,

(00:54:36):
because we've proven that we can ride out the peak and then we can ride out the

(00:54:42):
pit,

(00:54:43):
which post-COVID,

(00:54:44):
nobody was doing coaching anymore because everybody did it during COVID.

(00:54:48):
If they had the money and a lot of people had extra money in their pocket and

(00:54:51):
they're bored and they're at home and what do I want to do?

(00:54:53):
I want to work on me.

(00:54:54):
Well, now I've got a few thousand dollars to invest in a program

(00:54:59):
If those programs were worthy,

(00:55:01):
then you were still in business after COVID,

(00:55:04):
after 2022,

(00:55:06):
2023 and beyond.

(00:55:07):
That's my opinion as far as the industry goes.

(00:55:09):
We're way off topic from channeling now, but we brought the humanity back into it.

(00:55:13):
But don't think anybody that is putting anything out there,

(00:55:16):
whether they are doing paid advertising,

(00:55:19):
If they're spending their time doing it, there's an exchange going on of some sort.

(00:55:24):
Don't kid yourself that there's not.

(00:55:25):
They're getting something from it somehow or they simply wouldn't be doing it.

(00:55:29):
We do not live in a just goodness of your heart world because everyone has bills to pay.

(00:55:34):
And I don't know any billionaires that are out there teaching you how to be a billionaire.

(00:55:37):
They're out being bigger billionaires.

(00:55:40):
Yeah.

(00:55:42):
All right.

(00:55:43):
Well, this is a really good conversation as always.

(00:55:45):
We jumped all over the place, but hopefully we've provided some value for all of you listening.

(00:55:49):
Cool.

(00:55:49):
Thanks for having me, David.

(00:55:50):
Certainly.

(00:55:51):
Always good to have you on.

(00:55:52):
I look forward to having you on regularly this year.

(00:55:54):
Cool.

(00:55:55):
Thanks.

(00:55:55):
Looking forward to it.

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