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The clock ticks down on a 20 year war
as the doors at the airport, quickly

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close stranding, tens of thousands
of Afghans who were fighting for

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the Americans and NATO forces and
now fighting to leave the country.

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And there's a highly likely
scenario that there'll be us.

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British forces left behind.

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Hey, it's Lucas robot.

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And you're listening to the Lucas scrub
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truth and own the future episode 252.

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It is the late evening
of August 25th, 2021.

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And as I said, the door
is quickly, quickly.

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On, uh, evacuation flights.

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It is not, it is not a good look for,
for those who've been desperately,

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desperately trying to get out of
the country over the last week.

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And that's not just, that's not
just for, uh, SIV applicants,

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special, special persons applicants.

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Who've worked with the us
military or British military.

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As interpreters.

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That's not just for, uh, for Afghans who
qualified under whether it's religious

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minorities or, or other qualifications
to get out of the country in time.

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There are thousands.

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Pounding metaphorically speaking,
pounding on the gates of the airport.

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Now trapped between two perimeters,
the perimeter of the U S military

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and a perimeter of the Taliban
outside, you know, a far, a little

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distance outside of the airport of
people trying to get in the airport.

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They are not letting people in
the airport, except if you are us

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citizens, us green card holders,
and a certain select number of SIV.

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But even some of those SIV individuals,
uh, they are not looking like

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they are getting in at the moment.

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There are many conflicting reports
on the ground, but that, that window

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of time is definitely closing.

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The U S and Biden continue, continue to
hold onto their deadline of midnight, or

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I guess it would be 11:59 PM on August 30.

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First of giving getting everyone
out, all the troops out of Afghani.

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Which means they have to start drawing
down those troops in stopping or, or

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greatly reducing evacuation flights
before that time to get people out.

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So that window is closing.

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Some people yesterday said that
this was a 72 hour window reports.

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I have heard that is an 18
hour window by the mint.

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And that's coming from.

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Uh, uh, time a timestamp of 9:30
PM, uh, here in the middle east.

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So by the time that you're getting
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wherever you are at that window
know is likely to be greatly

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reduced to a number of hours hours.

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Now that they have promised the
U S government has promised that

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every American that wants to get
out is going to be able to get out.

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They're not stranded,
they're not abandoned.

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And yet.

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There are many people who are feeling
stranded and abandoned us citizens.

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In addition to that, there
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their names on flight manifests.

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They have their names on flight
manifests, but reports are coming in

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that even though they have their names,
even though they'd been approved.

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Even though they have a seat on an
airplane promised to them they're

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not getting through because there
there's just so many people that

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need to be evacuated that they're
prioritizing only you as citizens.

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Well, uh, great news.

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If you're into that sort of thing, uh,
from the Taliban Taliban spokesperson

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was recently interviewed and their second
press conference and had some really

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warm and encouraging words to say, uh,
for the, for the Afghani people here

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is the spokesperson for the Taliban.

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There's a lot of discussion
in the west about the 31st.

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Have you received any requests from
the Americans to extend the evacuation?

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Uh, the evacuation
scheme beyond that data.

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And are there any circumstances
under which you would agree

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to extending that day?

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were extended line 31st

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is the American plan.

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This was already according
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They have opportunity.

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They have all the resources, they can
take all the people that belong to them.

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We are not going to allow, I can't sleep
and we will not extend the deadline.

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We will be deciding about this there.

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And then we are not going
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We're not gonna allow Afghans to leave.

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Essentially.

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Uh, I've gone.

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Hassan has turned into a, a prison
we're Afghanis are, are kept in

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the country and not allowed to
right now in this us evacuation.

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So what they, they have done his
Afghan Taliban forces have set up

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a perimeter around the airport.

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Reports are seen that.

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Foreigners are allowed through those
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now that the Taliban has also reported
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their people after everyone's gone, then
they will permit Afghans to leave the

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country, which it sounds, I don't know, it
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We'll see what happens in
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importantly, At that point.

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If, if there are, if there are no one,
there is no one there to protect those

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who partnered with us and NATO forces.

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If there's no one there to protect
religious minorities who are under

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threat, there's no one there to protect
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well, or, or Afghanis who worked
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It seems awful convenient where the
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people who did everything right.

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You can leave.

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But, uh, all of you, other people
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with that amnesty and goodness
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You have to stay in the country.

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You can't go.

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You're now held prisoner.

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Speaking of being held prisoner, the,
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Within the last day that women should
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laws really should apply to women.

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Because it's, you know, it's, it's
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women to be outside the house.

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Just keep them inside.

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Not mainstream news sources, but from
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following on, on Instagram and on
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that I, I received, I'll just even read it
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Where one account said this just got news.

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They will only open
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That's not right.

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We need schools to open until grade
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Another lady posted this is via Twitter.

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My friend.

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In the villages say that the boys
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madrasa instead with madrasa means
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instead of going to the local school.

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And it's getting worse for girls who
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So that's the, that's the news that's
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local sources who are there on the ground.

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Maybe not what we're seeing in the.

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That's what we can.

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I think that's what we can expect.

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That's what we should expect in anyone
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we, I, I live here in the middle east
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Palestine, what'd, we've covered be
here, be here before on the show, the

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number of people who are so bold and.

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It's just astounding that you can't,
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media feed without it front and center.

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But the silence around this issue,
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prevalent as it's it's around issues
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about frequently in this region.

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One it's the denouncing
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Or terrorist groups like
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they're not really part of us.

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It's fighting for women's rights across,
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But right now it's tremendously silent and
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else can, can prove and tell me wrong.

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But even some of my local
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Who are a little bit more vocal about
what's happening right now in Afghanistan.

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They agree with me.

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The reason that many people aren't
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right now with the Taliban takeover
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they're cut from the same cloth.

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They're cut from the same cloth.

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And if you are pro Palestine in their
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and I'm also against a call for Genesis.

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But if you're most people here, if you're
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and Hamas curious all of the same, nearly
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but nearly all of the same values in the
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outer plane of Sri a law in a society.

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Now, not all, not all
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And very, very few, it's only a few
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or ISIS in the region that sees such
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but we've even played clips in here of
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Emirates, denounced Hamas as a terrorist
organization, which I that's great.

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I love, I love seeing that.

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I love hearing that.

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I'm glad that there are people who
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only seems to be rationally true.

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But the reason that there is not a
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vocally around this issue is because
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condemning your, your, the, the people
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in Hamas, and they can't fully cheerful.

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Even though there is a narrative of,
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from the imperialist oppressor and
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what was taking place in Afghanistan.

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And what is currently
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Israel is just a, an, an, a period
mystic Zionistic, oppressor oppressor.

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And that was the occupier.

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And that is the same thing
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Afghanistan.

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So seeing the Taliban take over
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run for some it's, and this is
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in between the lines for some it's.

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Well, this is kind of what we want
to see happen in Israel anyway.

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So yeah, this is what we want to see
in Palestine from the river to the sea.

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Palestine will be free.

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Well, I digress.

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Back to the topic at hand, uh, Jen
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She commented on just this.

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Th th the collapsing of, uh, foreigners
only being able to get through the

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telephone checkpoints and the closing
window that people have to evacuate.

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Afghanistan.

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When do you need to start pulling
troops out of the cop airport?

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To me to meet the occupiers 30 way time.

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It's a great question, Steve.

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I just don't want to get into
operational details that are under

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the purview of the deferment.

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Go ahead, but you are correct.

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I will note that it would not be, it
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in advance of the 31st or in time,
time in advance of whatever the date

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is in order to do that, but they can
give you the operational details.

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Go ahead.

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Does that mean that the evacuations
will stop before the actual 31st?

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So then there is time to get
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and weaponry out of there.

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Uh, that would be correct.

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That there would need to be
time to wind down the presence.

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I will note though, that the purpose of
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context of what the president conveyed
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you, there was pushback against Biden
being hard, set on, getting everyone

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out by the 31st and, and here they're
making the open confession of yes.

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We in order to get all the
troops out by the 31st, we have

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to stop evacuation flights.

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Before that reports right now on the
ground is that there's 10,000 people well

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inside of the airport walls right now
that need to be evacuated, not to mention

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the thousands on the outside of the wall
that are trying to get in to be evacuated.

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The likelihood that they're going
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people through those gates dwindled.

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By the moment now to, to their
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increasing threats of terrorism
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K there, and those are real threats.

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And so in some ways I have,
I have a sliver of empathy.

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In in the rationality that, well,
if we, if we stay around and we stay

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longer, we can increase a level of
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attacks against civilian forces.

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And even maybe we'll end up
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from the Taliban themselves.

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If they're saying, no, you can't be here.

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You're now invading our land.

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Attack the airport and fight that
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could be through the roof.

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And yeah, it would definitely turn
this into a bad to worst situation.

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If all of a sudden we saw a full-out a
war between the airport and the Taliban

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forces with thousands of civilians caught
in between and the cost of crossfire.

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I mean, that would be disastrous.

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Their hopes from my understanding,
their hopes is that okay?

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Well, once we get the us forces out
commercial flights, we'll be able to

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start back up and we will be able to
get whether it's the rest of our us

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citizens out or, or SIV applicants or even
other Afghans, they will be permitted.

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And we're gonna, we're gonna have
to work with it because that's what

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the situation is on the ground.

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The other side of that is there
are many Afghans who are saying

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you've been here for 20 years.

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I'm sure you can stay for one more week.

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I'm sure you can hold this for one more
week and actually let people through.

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Oh, Jen Psaki goes on.

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Includes a number of very key
components as he assesses day by day.

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And that includes the threat of ISIS.

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Uh, which is of great concern,
understandably to the president, given

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the threat, it poses to our military
who were on the ground, serving, uh,

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proudly and bravely on the ground.

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It also includes the essential, uh, aspect
of having the Taliban's coordination

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continue over the coming days.

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So we can facilitate as many
people as we've been going.

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America has just full on capitulate.

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To the Taliban just fight and just seems
to have full on capitulated to their

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needs and understand technically now
they're unwelcomed in someone else's

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country and they're yeah, they're not
welcome there at the same, the same.

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You have to wonder what, what, what are
the stipulations that would cause them to

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stay longer and will, will there end up
being greater loss of life by pulling out?

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Or if they, they push on and stay
until they get all of our allies, all

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of the people who fought alongside
us forces out well, uh, Fox news

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has something to say about just the.

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And I just got an email from someone
who's talking directly with the team

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leader on the ground, uh, uh, trying to
get people out and I'll just read, we'll

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put up some pictures from the airport,
FYI, from my evacuation team leader.

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One hour ago, we have people on the ground
at the airport waiting for a new update.

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Any minute we have a team
on the ground running.

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Evac evacuation operations.

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So this Intel is as real as it gets.

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This might help you
understand what's happening.

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Basically the U S is refusing
to take any more Afghan locals.

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And as a us citizen, only
policy in play, this is correct.

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That's all my sources have confirmed.

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This is correct.

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There's many rumors saying, oh, we're
still taking, we're still taking people.

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We're taking 5,000 people a day, but the
real numbers that I've heard from on the

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ground, They're only taking 1,500 people
a day and they have stopped taking all.

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All non us citizen green card holders
or embassy staff stated that once August

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31st hits, they will help nobody else.

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U S or Afghan.

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These are the Taliban checkpoints
or hearing that a deal has been

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done with the Taliban and that the
U S is expediting the withdrawal

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and wants to be out in 72 hours.

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Anybody left is on their own.

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President Biden, disregarding
all sound, military advice.

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It's expected that he will continue
to push ahead and ignore the

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military either today or tomorrow.

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According to the source on
the ground, they believe the

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airport gates will be sealed.

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They've already destroyed
the only road out the age.

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65 destroyed the tunnel effectively,
effectively cutting off that route

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out the UK pulled out already
due to a Kia killed in action.

295
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In short, the Polish
troops also have pulled up.

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For the county and any us citizen,
the country, and any us citizen

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in the country have been sold out.

298
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Uh, Taliban have total control
of the city now are telling women

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and children's stay in the house.

300
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And anybody else is fair game,
including all military personnel.

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Um, the person on the ground is
a foreman, former Navy pilot,

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uh, running the point operation.

303
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Now I am so grateful.

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I'm so grateful.

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Every man and woman in uniform
that is quite they're pulling

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insane hours, putting their lives
at risk, working hard to get our

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allies that fought alongside us.

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And we fought alongside
for years in Afghanistan.

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Where we made commitments
to, and I am, I am glad I am.

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I, I am so grateful for each person
that is putting their life on the line.

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Now, these, these commands are
coming down from the U S state.

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Of who is being able to let through
and who is not, there are reports.

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Uh, some that I'm sure are verified.

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Some that are unverified of planes
that are leaving, that are mostly empty

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because they're not letting people
through because there are these flight

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manifests that were filled with Afghans
who did not meet special qualifications.

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And so they weren't
permitted through the gate.

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And so these flights are taking
off some photos show, whether

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they're verified or not.

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I do not know a hundred percent,
but her taking off, not full,

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but with a lot of capacity left.

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And that is coming down from, from
a us state department decision.

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But it's causing.

324
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In my opinion, uh, a deep betrayal
of, of people that we had have a

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duty to, which would be us citizens
or UK citizens and people that we

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have a responsibility to, that we
made a commitment to to honor those.

327
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Would you be all those that fought
along side us on the native form?

328
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Throughout 20 years.

329
00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:13,790
Well, here is a, a clip from ITV news.

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They had this brilliant report.

331
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Uh, from outside the airport
wall, Syrah is a British citizen.

332
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Who's been denied entry into the airport.

333
00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:29,660
I'm a British citizen and
I've got my kids operation.

334
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They stock here, they closed the door
on us and they're shooting back at

335
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us while the message for the prime
minister is just to get us out from here.

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Otherwise, our kids are smuggling
all in a big mass here under the

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British army is right behind this.

338
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They closed the gate and
not, they're not let it slip.

339
00:22:48,570 --> 00:22:53,030
They don't let me know when it, if
this is, if this is a British citizen,

340
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he's holding a British passport and not
being allowed in what, what good would

341
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be with those SIV, the translators, the
people that worked with armed forces be,

342
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are they going to get in highly doubt?

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00:23:13,290 --> 00:23:19,410
Jen Saki in that same presser was I
believe the day before it was saying, oh,

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people were w no one's being stranded.

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No one's being abandoned.

346
00:23:24,330 --> 00:23:29,370
We're not going to strand anyone ever
we're in contact with all of our people.

347
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They're going to be in just fine.

348
00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:32,940
We're going to get them through.

349
00:23:34,910 --> 00:23:35,840
Well, uh, apparently.

350
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This man, whether he's gotten
through or not, I don't know.

351
00:23:40,220 --> 00:23:42,500
But at this time the door
was being shut on him.

352
00:23:42,530 --> 00:23:47,120
It seems that people are
going to get stranded there.

353
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,680
And we do not know the fate from that
point on here is another clip from that

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same, uh, interview from I T V news.

355
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Oh, the British interpreter.

356
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And I worked for one year in
Natalie in Helaman with the Marines.

357
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:02,440
Yeah.

358
00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:03,630
Yeah.

359
00:24:03,870 --> 00:24:05,700
Yesterday night, I was here.

360
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:08,700
You've been here all night,
all night in my children.

361
00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:10,650
This is my children.

362
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:11,580
She is my wife.

363
00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:14,220
And I need help from you.

364
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:14,660
Okay.

365
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:17,510
If you notice you say yesterday
night, I've been here.

366
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:24,440
There are thousands of people who have
gone to the airport realizing that

367
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because of their status, because of how
they've partnered with the U S forces

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in the past, they doubt that their law.

369
00:24:33,885 --> 00:24:37,215
Well, one be respected
underneath the new rule.

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After the NATO forces leave.

371
00:24:38,955 --> 00:24:45,375
And two, they doubt that they doubt
that they want to live the sort of life

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that would be led underneath Taliban
rule, not just under the underneath

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tree law, but underneath there's strict
and stringent enforcement of those

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laws that deny rights to, to girls.

375
00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:03,060
And religious minorities.

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00:25:08,190 --> 00:25:10,950
So these thousands of people.

377
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Have left their homes with a backpack
and are camping out around the airport.

378
00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:21,449
And now with the perimeter that the
Taliban has set up in the announcement

379
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that we're not letting any Afghanis
through, they are stuck there within that

380
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:33,600
perimeter in, in the hopes and the vein
hopes that the airport doors will open.

381
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And so people are sleeping out there for
two, three days, 4,000 people sharing one

382
00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:44,700
Porter, potty that's overflowing sewage
and septic flowing all over the place.

383
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:46,020
This is the situation.

384
00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:51,900
This is the catastrophe that
has, is taking place right now.

385
00:25:52,830 --> 00:25:58,290
That is inexcusable and
was completely avoided.

386
00:25:59,085 --> 00:26:05,024
Completely avoidable here is
another clip of the scenes.

387
00:26:05,294 --> 00:26:08,865
Now I'm sure these scenes
are there's hundreds of them.

388
00:26:10,185 --> 00:26:14,715
I'm sure these are not just isolated,
isolated moments or instances

389
00:26:15,794 --> 00:26:20,534
of, of chaos or of kids getting
separated from their parents.

390
00:26:20,925 --> 00:26:26,810
Uh, I just on, on thinkable things that
people are going through right now and

391
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:30,580
their parents aren't insight into till
dinner outside of the children right here.

392
00:26:30,620 --> 00:26:31,430
He standing right here.

393
00:26:32,535 --> 00:26:33,555
Amid the chaos.

394
00:26:33,555 --> 00:26:38,295
We were shown two children apparently
left behind when their parents were

395
00:26:38,295 --> 00:26:41,405
among the few to be admitted here, Mr.

396
00:26:41,405 --> 00:26:46,475
Biden, you did this, you planned this,
you made the deal with the dollar bonds.

397
00:26:46,775 --> 00:26:48,365
This is the consequences of it.

398
00:26:48,725 --> 00:26:50,225
This is the ramifications of it.

399
00:26:50,465 --> 00:26:50,765
Mr.

400
00:26:50,765 --> 00:26:54,695
Biden, as your L calculation,
you will, or against shrimp.

401
00:26:54,935 --> 00:26:56,225
Now we are against Shu.

402
00:26:57,524 --> 00:27:01,905
Here that this, this
gentleman is so upset.

403
00:27:02,475 --> 00:27:04,155
You made a deal with the Taliban.

404
00:27:05,245 --> 00:27:07,245
You're the, you're the
one that planned this.

405
00:27:07,245 --> 00:27:10,485
You're the one that planned
this, this withdrawal.

406
00:27:11,445 --> 00:27:15,825
You're the one that thought, ah, you
know what, before, before we might have

407
00:27:15,825 --> 00:27:23,085
to evacuate the entire city before we do
that, let's just shut down our biggest.

408
00:27:23,834 --> 00:27:28,365
Airport or biggest military base that
could maybe even probably would have

409
00:27:28,365 --> 00:27:30,794
facilitated many of these evacuations.

410
00:27:30,794 --> 00:27:34,965
We're just going to give up one
of our greatest assets first

411
00:27:35,324 --> 00:27:37,094
before pulling people out.

412
00:27:37,635 --> 00:27:38,955
So he's he's right.

413
00:27:39,495 --> 00:27:40,304
He's right.

414
00:27:41,264 --> 00:27:45,314
And, uh, again, for, and I said
this in the previous episode, for

415
00:27:45,314 --> 00:27:47,475
all those people who are saying.

416
00:27:48,420 --> 00:27:51,060
We don't want to take these
people into our country.

417
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:53,160
First shame on you.

418
00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:56,970
These are people who fought
alongside you as an American.

419
00:27:56,970 --> 00:28:01,380
If you're an American
saying that shame second.

420
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:08,250
If you are, if you are right
leaning, conservative you, for sure

421
00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:13,680
want these people in your country,
you want them as your neighbor.

422
00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:15,120
I guarantee it.

423
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:20,490
I guarantee you want these people as your
neighbor and the alternative to them being

424
00:28:20,610 --> 00:28:23,940
your neighbor makes makes you something.

425
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,120
Uh, let's just put it this way.

426
00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:29,970
The betrayal.

427
00:28:31,170 --> 00:28:36,150
Of our, our, our friends
and our allies in this hour.

428
00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:40,170
That is not something that I
would, I would care to have.

429
00:28:40,530 --> 00:28:45,960
Uh, my hands here's the final
clip, the final clip, uh,

430
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,370
from ITV there's desperation.

431
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:51,410
I'm betrayal on show yet.

432
00:28:51,410 --> 00:28:53,990
Again, many of these men, sir.

433
00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:58,920
Today we're slamming the gates
on them and their families.

434
00:28:59,130 --> 00:29:02,970
It doesn't feel great to be British
on this side of the fence today.

435
00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:04,910
And that's absolutely how I feel.

436
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:08,450
There's, there's so many of
these people who have served us.

437
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:16,970
And now it seems as if the Biden
administration is saying, Nope, we

438
00:29:16,970 --> 00:29:18,350
are going to be out on the 31st.

439
00:29:19,065 --> 00:29:20,865
Maybe we'll have some contingencies.

440
00:29:21,285 --> 00:29:24,675
If there are certain qualifications
that are not met, that might be

441
00:29:24,675 --> 00:29:26,025
contingencies to extend that.

442
00:29:26,025 --> 00:29:31,635
But right now the U S military is
beginning to wind, wind up and wind

443
00:29:31,635 --> 00:29:37,575
down evacuations and begin to withdraw
all of their troops in machinery,

444
00:29:37,815 --> 00:29:40,815
which will take a number of days.

445
00:29:43,445 --> 00:29:43,625
Yeah.

446
00:29:44,669 --> 00:29:49,379
Th th the scenes from on the ground,
the stories from on the ground, children

447
00:29:49,379 --> 00:29:57,899
being shot, even just today, uh, reports
coming in from across the country, people

448
00:29:57,899 --> 00:30:05,379
being beaten and Australian citizen beaten
at a checkpoint because he was mistaken

449
00:30:05,379 --> 00:30:09,120
for being Afghani for being an Afghan.

450
00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:16,595
And, uh, This is all completely avoidable.

451
00:30:18,005 --> 00:30:18,965
All completely avoided.

452
00:30:20,260 --> 00:30:24,040
And the situation is collapsing quickly.

453
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:26,460
Yeah.

454
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:27,630
That makes sense.

455
00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:34,680
In a post truth society where we have
exchanged the truth for a lie and breathe.

456
00:30:35,275 --> 00:30:39,685
For postmodern irrationality,
the absurd finally make sense.

457
00:30:39,745 --> 00:30:47,625
And the absurd today is this meme
that I found, um, the interweb, uh,

458
00:30:47,655 --> 00:30:49,635
scrolling through my Instagram feed.

459
00:30:50,565 --> 00:30:55,935
If you're listening on a podcast
and certified 2.0 app, which can

460
00:30:55,935 --> 00:31:01,155
show chapters and pictures in the
art as you listen, then you will

461
00:31:01,155 --> 00:31:02,385
see if you look down at your.

462
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,970
You will see this image and it's
the classic meme with, with three

463
00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:10,710
different slides on that first slide.

464
00:31:11,159 --> 00:31:17,580
There's someone standing in front
of a podium asking a question.

465
00:31:18,030 --> 00:31:19,649
He says, who likes the Taliban?

466
00:31:19,649 --> 00:31:22,170
And everyone's raising
their hand really high.

467
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,730
Next question.

468
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,649
Who wants to live under the Taliban?

469
00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:28,050
No, one's raising their hand.

470
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:29,040
Everyone's quiet.

471
00:31:29,610 --> 00:31:30,360
Third question.

472
00:31:30,659 --> 00:31:32,010
Who wants to live in the west?

473
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:33,330
Everyone's raising your hand.

474
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,310
This is what's happening.

475
00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:44,520
There is an enormous, enormous amounts
of Taliban propaganda, or pro Taliban

476
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,470
people coming out of the woodworks.

477
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:51,629
People who don't live in Afghanistan,
people who don't live under shrill.

478
00:31:53,235 --> 00:31:57,855
Not just trail law, but the way that
the Taliban wants to execute that it's

479
00:31:57,855 --> 00:32:02,175
not Sharia law in and of itself because
there's multiple expressions of that.

480
00:32:02,175 --> 00:32:05,445
As we've covered before on the show,
there are multiple expressions.

481
00:32:07,965 --> 00:32:12,405
I believe in, in the UAE,
their cabinet is 50% women.

482
00:32:13,125 --> 00:32:18,975
They've made sure that half of their,
their positions are being filled by women.

483
00:32:19,995 --> 00:32:20,295
That.

484
00:32:20,625 --> 00:32:22,605
And that is a nation
that's under Sharia law.

485
00:32:22,635 --> 00:32:26,415
So you can't just flat out say across
the board because it's it's law,

486
00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:28,275
it's their interpretation of it.

487
00:32:28,725 --> 00:32:33,405
But there are people who are coming out in
the droves saying, oh, give them a chance.

488
00:32:33,735 --> 00:32:35,025
Oh, they're not so bad.

489
00:32:35,055 --> 00:32:37,845
Oh, they finally have law
and order in the city.

490
00:32:40,495 --> 00:32:43,285
And yet those, the majority
maybe there, there are.

491
00:32:44,770 --> 00:32:50,110
But all of the Afghans that I have
been following and listening to on

492
00:32:50,110 --> 00:32:53,590
social media, they are, are so upset.

493
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,360
They're are so upset by all of
these people posting insane.

494
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,230
Oh, it's not really that bad
people are just overreacting.

495
00:33:02,260 --> 00:33:07,870
People are just being fearful and
they're all in the comments sections

496
00:33:07,870 --> 00:33:11,020
that I've been reading, all of their
reactions are well, then you come later.

497
00:33:12,545 --> 00:33:16,655
If, if, if you love it so much, then
move, you're welcome to live here.

498
00:33:17,405 --> 00:33:18,965
If this is the life that you want to live.

499
00:33:21,945 --> 00:33:24,495
And, uh, that's the thing.

500
00:33:26,685 --> 00:33:27,254
Excuse me.

501
00:33:27,254 --> 00:33:28,605
It's okay.

502
00:33:31,215 --> 00:33:35,115
There are tens of thousands
of people who are saying, this

503
00:33:35,115 --> 00:33:37,185
is not the life that we want.

504
00:33:37,635 --> 00:33:39,375
There've been photos posted, right?

505
00:33:40,815 --> 00:33:47,505
The inter world of, uh, Afghanistan in
the 1970s, where women are wearing shorter

506
00:33:47,505 --> 00:33:49,845
skirts and, uh, uncovering their hair.

507
00:33:50,045 --> 00:33:52,955
And many people are railing against
that saying, well, don't, you sh people

508
00:33:52,955 --> 00:33:54,905
should stop showing these photos.

509
00:33:54,905 --> 00:33:58,115
It's, it's demoralizing to women.

510
00:33:58,115 --> 00:34:02,785
It's suggesting that it's, it's
better than women covering their head.

511
00:34:03,065 --> 00:34:03,605
These are.

512
00:34:04,844 --> 00:34:09,614
Muslims who are mostly posting us in
that this is just objectifying women.

513
00:34:10,034 --> 00:34:13,185
This shouldn't be the, we shouldn't
be wanting the Western standard.

514
00:34:13,545 --> 00:34:15,824
And I, I definitely
understand that argument.

515
00:34:16,304 --> 00:34:20,444
I've, I've heard it multiple times and I
understand why they're making the argument

516
00:34:20,955 --> 00:34:27,259
that because they're making the argument
because in places like France, There are

517
00:34:27,259 --> 00:34:29,719
laws against women covering their faces.

518
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:34,969
So the re there's a reaction to say, well,
Hey, in France, we're not Muslim women.

519
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,250
Aren't allowed to cover
their freight faces.

520
00:34:37,850 --> 00:34:42,709
But here in Afghanistan, we at least
are allowed to cover our faces.

521
00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:47,600
Why should w there's a, there's
a mismatch of comparison there.

522
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:52,669
The issue that I have is
one society, not France.

523
00:34:54,395 --> 00:35:00,305
But at least how it was underneath
that the old Afghan government was,

524
00:35:00,575 --> 00:35:04,355
if you want to cover your face,
you have the freedom to do so.

525
00:35:04,895 --> 00:35:08,015
If you don't, you have
the freedom to do so.

526
00:35:09,185 --> 00:35:10,805
And this is where we're, it comes back.

527
00:35:10,835 --> 00:35:14,675
It comes back to personal
liberties and us being able to make

528
00:35:15,035 --> 00:35:19,805
decisions of how we want to walk
out our, our life and our faith.

529
00:35:21,135 --> 00:35:28,995
There's a quote in the Gulag archipelago
talking about the USSR and in it, it

530
00:35:28,995 --> 00:35:32,025
says you can pray to any God you want.

531
00:35:32,025 --> 00:35:37,035
You can have, you can keep your faith, you
can have your religion, but just praise.

532
00:35:37,035 --> 00:35:40,695
The only God can hear is that
really, is that really freedom?

533
00:35:42,225 --> 00:35:43,245
Is that really freedom?

534
00:35:47,275 --> 00:35:49,365
And so when we look towards.

535
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:57,990
Building a society that defends
and protects people's Liberty and

536
00:35:57,990 --> 00:36:01,560
the right to do freedom to choose.

537
00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:05,009
We need to strike a balance.

538
00:36:05,009 --> 00:36:08,430
So we can't go all the way to say,
well, you actually aren't allowed to

539
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:15,890
practice your faith in the way that you
believe honors God at the same time.

540
00:36:18,055 --> 00:36:22,315
There shouldn't be oppressive rules and
laws placed on people which force the

541
00:36:22,315 --> 00:36:28,315
way that they have to live their lives
in a way such as covering someone's

542
00:36:28,315 --> 00:36:33,865
face, which is what is happening,
which is what will happen and what is

543
00:36:33,865 --> 00:36:37,105
happening, uh, in Afghanistan right now.

544
00:36:37,134 --> 00:36:40,015
And that is deeply troubling.

545
00:36:40,524 --> 00:36:42,654
And many, many lives are on the line.

546
00:36:43,225 --> 00:36:44,424
Now, whether or not.

547
00:36:45,975 --> 00:36:53,565
More lives will be, would, would be
lost if the U S forces stayed and there

548
00:36:53,685 --> 00:36:59,805
a full-on, uh, exchange of fire and,
and fighting back and forth between

549
00:36:59,805 --> 00:37:05,625
the U S and telephone forces in the
coming weeks, whether that would

550
00:37:05,625 --> 00:37:08,595
result in a greater loss of life or.

551
00:37:10,035 --> 00:37:14,265
Whether then the U S NATO forces totally
just pulling out and saying you're

552
00:37:14,265 --> 00:37:21,214
on your own in the, the catastrophe
in the fallout that might follow from

553
00:37:21,214 --> 00:37:26,615
that we will never know because we'll
only see one of those two sides.

554
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:31,529
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00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:11,550
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567
00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:15,120
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568
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:26,100
Welcome back to Weaver pneuma, part
of the show where we take ancient

569
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,830
wisdom and we weave it in with our
everyday lives so that we can own

570
00:38:28,830 --> 00:38:31,710
our future and weave our destiny.

571
00:38:32,070 --> 00:38:36,780
Today's quote is actually just
hold heritage that, uh, I wish.

572
00:38:38,475 --> 00:38:44,385
That we would all live by and
it is practice what you preach,

573
00:38:44,895 --> 00:38:46,005
practice, what you preach.

574
00:38:46,155 --> 00:38:51,045
And this is a kickback to the previous
meme, where there are a whole bunch

575
00:38:51,045 --> 00:38:57,825
of people out there right now, seeing
the praises of how, how great life

576
00:38:57,825 --> 00:38:59,345
could be underneath Taliban rule.

577
00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:01,595
There is a massive push in the media.

578
00:39:06,810 --> 00:39:13,500
And yet most of those people do not
live underneath the Taliban's rule.

579
00:39:15,060 --> 00:39:19,140
And likewise, there are a lot of people,
as we mentioned on the previous episode

580
00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:20,970
saying, well, I hope they're okay.

581
00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:22,500
It's a shame what's happening.

582
00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:23,940
I can't believe this is happening.

583
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:25,110
We can't let this happen.

584
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:28,170
And yet, have you.

585
00:39:29,145 --> 00:39:33,795
Given of their life resources
to help people who have fled,

586
00:39:33,795 --> 00:39:35,535
who currently have nothing.

587
00:39:35,715 --> 00:39:39,405
So my charge to you today, no matter
which side you're on, if you're

588
00:39:39,405 --> 00:39:40,875
on the side of like go tolerable.

589
00:39:41,895 --> 00:39:46,635
Which I, I mean, maybe you are, I got
some people listening to this show that

590
00:39:46,935 --> 00:39:52,785
definitely are, um, not just in the
middle east, uh, in, in the west, the

591
00:39:52,785 --> 00:39:57,615
number of extreme right-wingers that
sometimes tune into the show and the

592
00:39:57,615 --> 00:39:59,955
comments that I get are unbelievable.

593
00:39:59,955 --> 00:40:02,635
So, you know, maybe, maybe that's you.

594
00:40:03,350 --> 00:40:07,570
Well, we'll think about it and ask
yourself, is that where if, if you are

595
00:40:07,570 --> 00:40:12,940
so stoked on that, is that where you
would want to live and raise your family?

596
00:40:12,940 --> 00:40:16,990
And if so, I'm sure you can
arrange for that to happen.

597
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:19,090
Second.

598
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:23,070
For those of us who are saying
this is just so horrible.

599
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:25,200
This is just such a travesty shame.

600
00:40:25,410 --> 00:40:30,590
It's so shameful be, uh, to be an
American or a Brit right now we're

601
00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:32,540
slamming the doors on our allies.

602
00:40:32,540 --> 00:40:33,620
How shameful.

603
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:39,320
This is what the admissions . This
was just a total mess up by America.

604
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,910
This was totally voidable.

605
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,190
If that is you, if that's you
raise your hand, that's me.

606
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:48,000
I'm raising my hand, right?

607
00:40:49,770 --> 00:40:51,180
Let's do something about it.

608
00:40:51,779 --> 00:40:57,330
Let's go beyond just what we speak and
what we preach and saying, oh, it's a

609
00:40:57,330 --> 00:41:00,390
travesty and let's actually do something.

610
00:41:01,770 --> 00:41:06,540
Finding out how to help those refugees who
are coming to your nation, whether it's

611
00:41:06,569 --> 00:41:12,930
giving to two different organizations who
are helping people in danger, get out or

612
00:41:12,930 --> 00:41:18,390
helping people, resettle who have gotten
out, there are many, many causes that

613
00:41:18,569 --> 00:41:23,109
you can be giving to right now, whether
that's in 80, whether it's in Lebanon or

614
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:26,279
whether that's for this crisis, that's
happening right now in Afghanistan.

615
00:41:27,315 --> 00:41:30,255
I know we've been, we there's
a lot of other things going

616
00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:31,215
on in the world right now.

617
00:41:31,485 --> 00:41:36,585
There are things happening, crazy
things that are happening in Australia

618
00:41:36,765 --> 00:41:39,255
and New Zealand with total lockdowns.

619
00:41:39,255 --> 00:41:45,225
After one case, uh, of, of the Rona
virus popping back up again, there

620
00:41:45,255 --> 00:41:47,265
there's so much that's happening.

621
00:41:47,565 --> 00:41:48,405
Uh, this one.

622
00:41:49,665 --> 00:41:52,035
This crisis has been
particularly close to home.

623
00:41:52,565 --> 00:41:58,865
And, uh, I've been working tirelessly
on doing something beyond just

624
00:41:58,865 --> 00:42:02,615
pontificating about it on this show.

625
00:42:02,615 --> 00:42:09,755
So forgive me if this, this episode
wasn't as meaty and detailed as maybe you

626
00:42:09,755 --> 00:42:16,865
would have liked, but, um, I'm sick and
tired and working diligently to actually.

627
00:42:17,970 --> 00:42:25,350
Do this to practice what I preach in and
to do something beyond just breathe, hot

628
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,470
air all over, all over is my microphone
and all over you about this crisis.

629
00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:34,970
So please join by
helping, uh, helping them.

630
00:42:36,015 --> 00:42:41,505
People who are in dire need, who are
leaving behind their homes and everything

631
00:42:41,505 --> 00:42:43,695
that they've known with just a backpack.

632
00:42:44,205 --> 00:42:46,845
And they're grateful to
have their lives intact.

633
00:42:46,845 --> 00:42:52,065
Let's help these people
in any way that we can.

634
00:42:52,065 --> 00:42:53,505
That's all for today's episode.

635
00:42:53,865 --> 00:42:58,035
Again, forgive me for maybe
having a little lighter, uh

636
00:42:58,125 --> 00:43:00,285
content-wise than normal.

637
00:43:00,765 --> 00:43:03,075
Uh, hopefully we will
be getting out of that.

638
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,725
Sooner than later, uh, Bye.

639
00:43:07,745 --> 00:43:12,075
I thank you for your grace and
your patients, uh, in that.

640
00:43:12,075 --> 00:43:19,055
Well, you are someone very special
because God don't make no junk is

641
00:43:19,055 --> 00:43:24,155
someone who goes out and seeks truth,
perceives the truth, because that is what

642
00:43:24,215 --> 00:43:27,155
opens up our ability to see the world.

643
00:43:27,395 --> 00:43:31,235
And if we can see the world, then we
can know how to walk rightly in it.

644
00:43:31,445 --> 00:43:32,495
That is our purpose.

645
00:43:32,885 --> 00:43:33,815
And that enables you.

646
00:43:33,815 --> 00:43:34,085
And I.

647
00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:35,940
The future.