Ned Schaut: why does this matter for us to be here together?
Dude, like my kids could marry your kids like I care so much how you freaking show
up as a dad, dude, and you should care how I show up as a dad because if my daughter
marries your son, like, dude, we want them to not have the same struggles we have.
We want them to be on that deeper level, right?
Like I told you, my life was awesome, but now I'm struggling with new things
I want my kids to struggle with, with deeper, more connected, more aware things
so that they can provide incredible value to this world that we've been given.
Kyle Carnohan: Welcome to the Superhuman Father's Transformation Podcast.
If you're listening to this, you're about to witness some of the most
incredible transformations that have ever happened on the planet, and just
by listening to this, you will be inspired to have your own transformation.
If you're listening to this for the first time, or you're one of the brothers
in the brotherhood, go leave a review on the podcast and let the brother or
member know how amazing they did and how incredible their transformation was.
I'm Kyle Carnahan, founder of Superhuman Fathers, and not only
am I gonna change your life, I'm gonna get you ripped as fuck.
Ryan Carnohan: let's get into this.
Let's talk.
Well, Ned, how you doing man?
All the way in Hawaii.
You in Hawaii
Ned Schaut: right now?
Uh, as usual.
Yeah.
In
Ryan Carnohan: Hawaii, baby.
Amazing.
In Hawaii.
Um, so Ned has a podcast.
He's also got a book that I've read.
Rebel Creates great book.
Should buy it if you don't, um, if you haven't, um, and.
Um, skateboarder past gate.
He's just, you know, Christian background.
Really cool story.
But when I met Ned, um, we were so young in this, like, he gave us our,
his trust pretty early on in this.
And, uh, I didn't have a Zoom call like opening.
It was just a phone call.
He's like, and I was still, I, I don't know if I'd had my
transformation not yet or not.
Ned had I, had I been posted yet Ned when
you
Ned Schaut: came in?
Maybe just barely.
I'm not, yeah, maybe barely.
Ryan Carnohan: Yeah, just barely.
I was still chubby, you know, I'm telling him like, Hey, you can do
Ned Schaut: this, we can do this.
You know.
You were on fire though, bro.
I remember exactly where I was sitting when, and I have four pages
of notes from that phone call, bro.
Ryan Carnohan: Well, I was tapped in man, cause it was right
before and I'd figured it out.
I had figured it out, you know, and so Ned, Ned, I think probably had the first
onboarding thesis, whatever you want to call it, of, of the s HF philosophy
that had come together in my brain.
And I just lit a fire it like it is.
Just once it started I couldn't stop talking about it.
And then we were bouncing thoughts and he was asking questions and we
have a Christian background, so we were also talking about that and
how it works and what that meant.
And then I just felt the love from him and, uh, we, I just
knew that this was gonna happen.
He just was in after that, you know, and she's like, okay.
And it's been fun.
Him and I have communicated off and on as we've gone through this, and
he's just, he, he's a jam you guys.
He really is a good, good human.
He's got a great family.
We'll hear about them probably through this.
He's got a daughter, he does, he works out with, he'll send me these pictures
and she's like, they're battling each other cuz she's a savage dude.
So, but that's what's fun is what you create in your family.
And so, um, Ned has been part of other men's groups, which is also interesting.
And he speaks, he, he runs his podcast about dads and he speaks and, and
does presentations about fatherhood.
And so it, it'll be fun to hear his perspective cuz he brings
a lot of knowledge already.
Uh, and he is applied that in, in, in his marriage and his family.
But there, I think there's some concepts, universal concepts that we share
together here in Superhuman Fathers that maybe connected some things.
And so we'll see where we go in this interview.
I didn't even send him interview questions.
We're just, we're just gonna, you know, go with this.
But I think Ned.
I wanna find our, uh, maybe you can give us a quick background
of what you do or of Sure.
Yeah.
What I wanna get at for the first question is I wanna find out where you were at
when you saw S hf, or when you were coming into S HF and why you pulled the trigger.
I think that's kind of where I wanna start with it, if
Ned Schaut: that sounds good.
Yeah, bro.
And I'll just tell you, like I wrote down, I spent two hours today going
through my journals and putting a bunch of notes down, so I'm gonna
give you like a few pillars and you can just dig into whatever you want.
Oh, and you feel
Ryan Carnohan: free, feel free too.
This is your time, so as, as you feel inclined, you can take
it wherever you want as well.
I'm really good at, I can audible.
Ned Schaut: Yeah, you guys can ask me whatever you want, but I put it
under like, you know, why I did this, disclaimers, some actual metric statistics
because I track everything, uh, mistakes I made, and then there's about 10 rocks.
Yeah, 10 rocks.
Like what were significant moments?
Because this took me 11 months.
Uh, and then let's go, let's go.
And then some wins.
So I think this is the best part, bro, is, uh, first Kyle, you're making me
jealous with that mango pre-workout.
I, I ran out, dude.
So let's, let's hide that from the screen.
Hey, I have
Kyle Carnohan: a few more.
I'll, I'll, I'll send you one.
It's,
Ryan Carnohan: it's about done.
Ned Schaut: It's so good.
Okay.
Check it out.
Here's my opening.
Why did I join S hf?
I was cr I was already crushing it.
And I'm not saying that from like a, from like a, a cocky stance,
but like, I was doing great.
My marriage was great, having great sex.
My kids, my kids' relationships were great.
Um, I had written two books and was putting out my third book.
I did a TEDx talk.
I was at 200 episodes on my podcast.
My business, which is employee Benefits, uh, my business, which is
employee benefits, was going great.
Um, I was able to move to Hawaii and still run my business in California.
I think I had seven employees at the time.
Um, I was already only working about 20 hours on my business, uh, at, in 2021.
And then 2022 was 16 hours a week on my business on average.
So like, things were going great.
Um, and I was like, um, this is awesome.
But I wanted to look on the outside how I felt on the inside.
Right.
As a dude, you're scrolling through Instagram and you're like,
this guy looks like an alpha.
This guy looks like an alpha.
And I was fine.
Like I worked out, I could do workouts, but I didn't look, I.
I didn't look shredded, I didn't look Austin.
So I said, I wanna look on the outside, how I feel on the inside.
And then God rocked my freaking world, bro, I thought I'd
get this done in 90 days.
I'm disciplined.
This is not a problem.
And, and, and I'm gonna tell you from June of last year, through March
of this year, in my journals, as I went through, okay, 28 days do this.
Okay, 15 days do this.
Okay, I'm committing to 77 days.
Okay?
I'm committing.
And it's like, it was this rollercoaster of me, me trying to control it.
And so if I were to boil it down to one thing, What I learned through this is
I was able to build an incredible life.
And, and it's not just all me.
Like I totally, God hooked me up.
God was patient with me, um, from, from Ned's world.
Um, but God wanted to mature me.
Like I was the, I was the five year old kid coming to God,
Hey, I'm going to McDonald's.
Could I have five bucks?
And he's always super generous to me, like, yeah, here, go get an ice cream.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But this was Ned.
It's time to surrender.
It's time to surrender to who you are and to mature.
Now you guys, I'm gonna be 40 in a month.
And so really, you know, like I, I wanted to look my best when I turned 40.
And this became this spiritual transformation for me of a
deeper understanding of who I am.
Um, And so, I mean, I'll, I'm gonna give a couple disclaimers right,
right now, and then maybe you want to ask me something about what I said.
But this shit took me a year.
Um,
Ryan Carnohan: just keep going bro.
This is too good.
Ned Schaut: Keep going.
It took me a year.
Um, it took me a year.
Um, I've gotten in, so here's my disclaimers.
Took me a year.
I got, I have gotten in more fights with my wife in the last
year than in the last five years.
We've been married, uh, almost 19 years.
But I was, I was crushing it, but then I went freaking like, okay, there's another
level of, of who Ned is, who Ned can be.
And so the tension, like huge connects and huge disconnects.
Not, I shouldn't even say disconnects.
It's like we just enter it in.
So here, here's a great example.
Here's a true metric.
Okay?
We got in way more fights.
But if I look at, so I track our sex and her period.
So like I could go into why do that, but.
I had to change the point system because it got to a new level of incredible
that I didn't even know existed.
So if I looked at my points from, from, uh, I got it right here, you guys are
gonna think this is whack book, whatever.
Okay.
Sex in 2021, average 20 points a month.
In 22, it averaged 30 points a month.
And now in 2023, it's averaging 143 points a month.
Because I had to go to a whole nother, like one to five didn't work anymore,
and then one to 10 didn't work anymore.
And I'm like, oh shit, I didn't even know that.
Like the best is a 30 now.
And, and sometimes I'm like, how can I put 30 today when last week?
You know what I mean?
Like, oh my gosh.
So it has increased tremendously, but the tension of our fights
has also increased because.
We're both digging into like, who are we?
Who were we made to be?
It's so intense.
So back to my disclaimers, fights got worse.
Um, dude, three months ago, I can see her yelling at me.
She's in the closet.
I can still see this.
And she's so pissed.
Like, I got her so wound up and she's like, really?
You're a superhuman father?
And it's like, it's like these incredible moments of us in The Bahamas connecting
like I've never connected before, bro, on a trip that was given to me.
So then being in my closet a month later and she's like, thinks I'm the biggest
asshole in the world because we're digging into this deeper level of who we are.
That's what this freaking Superhuman Fathers has done for me.
And this is just the beginning.
Like to think I was going here and then to have Superhuman Fathers take me here and
go, whoa, this is a journey for so much.
Um, Oh my gosh.
Okay.
Uh, okay, so
Ryan Carnohan: let's go ahead, let's dig in here.
Okay, so you're fighting more.
Yeah.
Why do you think that is?
And did the way that you were responding to the disagreements change from
before you started Superhuman Fathers?
Or did the way you respond to them were, was, were they, was it the
Ned Schaut: same?
So, here's what I'm gonna say.
I think that the incredible life that I had before, which was great.
So I'm not saying like all, uh, it was great, but Ned
was the center of the story.
Yes.
And, and I, I loved my family a lot based on their performance in my story.
And so it's this new tension of my wife, I truly believe is my other half.
She's a half of me to like we are to be one, and she's another half of
me that I don't have control over.
And I'm, I'm operating now to give her the space to be herself and
not just be Ned's support system.
And so it's this interesting dynamic where she's having a voice, she's standing up,
she's being encouraged to be herself.
And I'm struggling with what does that mean in this marriage
we've had for 19 years?
Um, how
Ryan Carnohan: are you giving her that ability?
What's changed in you that has given her the opportunity to be more of her?
Because this is a very massive, massive concept in marriage that us men miss.
And I'm learning myself.
And when you do do it, you know, you can feel the.
Ned Schaut: It's awareness, bro.
I think that's the scariest thing to all of this is like, as you become aware, you
almost become aware of what an asshole you are and, and an asshole you have been.
Like, if I'm just hungry and I'm like a baby, I don't realize
I'm an asshole when I'm crying.
But now that I'm maturing and I'm crying, I realize like I'm
just shitting on everybody around me when I show up like this.
But now I see it.
So then I have this freaking internal battle with myself every day when
I'm showing up with crappy energy.
Normally it was just like I was a baby crying cause I was hungry.
But now, now I see it, but I still am freaking crying.
So how do I shift out of that?
So it's, it's shifting out of that.
Um, and then the other piece to it, man, is can
Kyle Carnohan: I just stop, can I stop this one second and
just say, that's fucking gold.
And is the whole reason why this was start in the first place.
Like let's go right there.
Like, that's it.
And what's crazy is, yeah, we do talk about it of course, but.
Talking about it only does that talk about it, but until you get yourself in
a place where you ain't got no place to go to scratch that dopamine and you got
loud kids and your wife is ying at you and you're completely clear and all the
pain is right in your face and you can't run from it, that's when, okay, now we
have to learn how to deal with this.
Cuz I can't go drink, I can't go stuff my fat face, I've got nothing.
I have to face it and I gotta get good at this or else this
family's gonna fall apart.
I love it, dude.
Ned Schaut: Savage.
I think the other realization in that awareness is that I need my
wife, like this is some ahas I've had over the last little while.
Like she has something I don't have, so I need her not to like freaking buy
bananas and put 'em on the counter, but I need her in a way that I like.
She's my queen, bro.
She has wisdom that I, that I don't have.
And, and I need to see her that way.
Not as the banana buyer, but as the fricking You have wisdom.
I don't have, I mean, dude, even this aha.
I was speaking at this event and I was talking about food, and I was talking
about how I turned to food when I'm bored.
And she's like, no, you don't.
You turn to food when you're stressed.
And I'm like, oh my God.
Yeah.
You know, she, she knows me and I think that I, over the last year,
have opened up to choose to know her.
And so dude, two ahas, like one, uh, we were sitting in the kitchen one night
and she shared some stuff with me.
And I, we've been married, dude, we're gonna celebrate 19 years in July.
I said, would you have shared this with me a year ago?
And she's all, no.
And I said, why?
And she's like, I just couldn't, couldn't trust you with that part of my heart,
Ryan Carnohan: bro.
Let's go, dude,
Kyle Carnohan: bro.
So this is it, dude.
This is why we become that man.
This is so huge.
Ned, here's the craziest shit.
Like I knew, I, I saw this in you when we fir when we first met, dude, I was
like, Ned's still kind of a pussy.
Like, I loved you, but I was like, I could see it, you know, like,
I was like, dude, I saw power in you that wasn't released yet.
And I'm like, oh my God, I hope someday I get the opportunity to just, just, just
give, like, show you the key, not, not give you the key, not open it for you.
Just be like, Hey, hey, hey, look, look, look, look to your left.
And you're like, oh, I'm already that guy.
I just gotta do that.
Okay, cool.
Like, boom.
Ned Schaut: Done.
And, and you know what, bro, I'm gonna tell you this, okay?
So, so the other thing, and, and we can jump around here, but you know,
number one is, is awareness, right?
This is all about awareness.
And then, you know, figuring out what to do once you're aware.
But the second thing is do you're connected so you become
connected in a whole new way.
So, uh, you know, I'm in Hawaii, so it's three hours difference from
California, but in my world, okay, God woke me up on Monday morning.
Okay?
This is yesterday Mor yesterday, bro, yesterday morning.
And it's, uh, you guys are already 30 minutes into the call.
And I'm like, ah, I'm not gonna join.
And he's like, skip what you were gonna do for your morning routine.
Go get on that call.
So I go get on that call and freaking I do one comment to somebody on there
and Kyle says, Kyle says, oh yeah, Ned, call Ned about the Kickstarter.
And by the way, uh, I smelled weakness on Ned when I met him.
And I'm like, God, it was good.
It was what I needed to hear.
Just like just now.
He said he thought I was a pussy.
What I met or saw, whatever, it doesn't hurt my feelings now.
Now you have my
Kyle Carnohan: heart,
Ryan Carnohan: dude.
All my respect in the world.
Ned Schaut: Here's, here's the point of this, like, whatever I got posted
or whatever, it doesn't matter.
I'm on this call right now, like whatever, that that weak pussy is still inside here.
He's smaller and weaker than he was a year ago.
Yeah.
And I'm gonna continue to kill that fool.
But the point is like, dude, I'm con, I feel connected.
I mean, I've got a couple other moments where I just had these
like incredible moments, bro.
But like yesterday was, uh, Ned, you need to go get on that call.
You need to hear something.
I get on that call.
I hear it.
And, and, and I, three years ago, if I heard Kyle say that, I
probably would've left the group and been like, right, me too.
Person's bigger.
Ryan Carnohan: Me too.
Kyle Carnohan: Like, like, like shame.
Like five years ago, somebody said that shit to me.
I'd be like, fuck you.
Who do you think you are?
You know,
Ryan Carnohan: instead of like, say that and I, for
Kyle Carnohan: crazy.
Ned Schaut: I love it.
Man as I as today, I looked over the last year, you know, uh,
there were just so many wins, man.
So many wins.
My wife and I went to a, like a marriage retreat just like not too long ago.
That would never have happened a year ago.
My wife went and worked out recently.
That never would've happened.
Um, the connections and awareness are incredible.
Um, I don't know.
I have a whole bunch of other shit I could say or talk about, but I don't know
if you wanna ask me a question, Ryan.
I just one more about this.
This is
Ryan Carnohan: pretty cool.
Something you mentioned about how, um, just being able to, like, she wouldn't
share this part of her heart with you and then, but also you're sharing that you're
fighting more and so she feels safer with you because she can actually express
these feelings that she was bottling up.
And so you're able, because you can sit in discomfort.
This is really interesting.
Check this out, you guys.
I just thought this is really good.
So authenticity is the ability to sit in discomfort, right?
Because you have to actually be honest with everyone of who you are and your
values are, and it makes, and they might disagree, so it's uncomfortable,
but she's gonna, your wife will push you and to find that in you, right?
She's gonna always push the limit because she wants you to find more of your
authenticity and she wants to be more of herself and more of herself might bring up
stuff that you disagree with or whatever.
And so that, it's just crazy how this bleeds the ability to sit and discomfort
bleeds everywhere because if you can just sit there with your wife and be there
with her, then you, you're actually gonna become the couple you're supposed to be
together because you can finally hear her without what you say you to sedate or run
to food when you're stressed or whatever it was that you were talking about.
I just really appreciate that concept and how cool for you
to be able to tell us this too.
How cool to be able to tell us about your sex life.
What a cool place This is so fun, man.
Kyle Carnohan: This is love.
I love, I love how we can like talk about how we suck at shit and how we
did suck and how we're better at it, and then how we suck at stuff now
and how we're gonna get better at it.
And it's like, no ego, like I can share all my bullshit with you guys
and you, and you're just like, rooting me on like, you guys give a shit.
And, and then I do too.
We like, no one cares in the world.
Like, like we're men just want somebody to give a shit.
Like, like, hey, like, can you just be with me on this adventure?
Please.
Like, I just need a homie.
Like, I just don't wanna be alone, man.
Like, let's fucking do this together.
And that's what we have here.
And like, like to me, like, fuck, I'm so proud of Ned man.
I'm just proud because it's, it's hard to face that shit.
It's hard to get through that eagle wall.
Um, I mean, I've gone through it so many times and it tries to pull
me back and I'll watch a, watch a guy just rise like he did and
fight it with so much resistance.
It's fucking inspiring, dude.
Like, on another level, bro.
Ned Schaut: Um, yeah, man.
As you're talking, I'll, I'll say this, I'm in four groups right now.
The other three are not fitness groups, but I'm in four
groups and Superhuman Fathers.
There's something I, I know what it is.
It's, it's the transparency.
It's the vulnerableness and it's the, it's that Kyle is willing to do this with us.
Uh, it, he, you know, nothing against like a.
Nothing against the guru model, like whatever the guru model is, what it is.
But, but Kyle is here to tell us when he messes up and yells at his kid.
I remember, man, recently, maybe three months ago, dude, I lost, that's the
other thing is like, I lost my shit on my daughter one day, and I called
Kyle and I was like, bro, I just told my daughter we're at jujitsu and she
didn't want to get out of the car.
And I just was like, get in the fucking car.
And I'm like, dude, I would never have done that.
Dude.
I don't even, I didn't even say the F word in my twenties.
Like, I just, I didn't, I was a youth pastor.
I didn't freaking drink then.
And Kyle was just like, oh yeah, that's all right, dude.
I, I yelled at my kid two days ago and it was, uh, it was not appropriate.
And it was just like, oh man, this is not about perfection.
This is not about perfection.
And I'll tell you the reason why this took me a year is because I was trying
to control, I was trying to be perfect.
Yeah.
And, and, and I was doing it based on focusing on food.
Like whatever your thing might be, yours might be hard to go to the
gym, so you're just focused on that.
Or you might be focused on getting up early, whatever, whatever your thing is.
Like you're focusing on the wrong thing.
Yeah.
It's your, I'm I'm doing this because it's who I am.
Yeah.
Like I am Ned.
Like, dude, you gotta say that about yourself.
Like you are whoever you are and, and God or universe, whatever dude entrusted
you with a wife, with kids, with a life.
Like dude, we have massive responsibility.
And so every day when we do this, it's just, Hey, I
Ryan Carnohan: wanna hear responsibility.
I wanna hear this Ned, I want hear the statement.
I am Ned.
But what is different in that statement now versus before Superhuman Fathers?
If you were to say, I am Ned, what would that mean?
I know this is one crazy ass question.
We're getting
Ned Schaut: symbolic here.
Yeah.
No.
Okay, so, so
Ryan Carnohan: this is, I can feel this, this one, this is a good question.
What does I am Ned mean compared to I am Ned before
Ned Schaut: Superhuman?
If you were to ask me a year ago, who is Ned?
I would say, oh yeah, I'm Ned.
I've got a smoking hot wife.
I've got five beautiful kids.
I live in Hawaii.
I wrote book, like I got some, I would've said all these labels, like, oh, I
like to skateboard, or I like to surf.
All these things to define me, to make me feel cool or important, or whatever.
And now ultimately it's, I'm Ned, I'm, I'm a son of God.
Like I'm a child of God.
And all that means is like, I'm gonna be out and I'm gonna,
I'm gonna do my best, right?
Like I'm a shitty person and still selfish, but I'm gonna do
my best to provide value, to love people and to do right by whoever
comes across my path today.
But that's the wrestle, bro.
Like a lot of days I'm still acting selfish and so I
gotta go, stop being selfish.
Stop thinking of yourself, but.
To answer your question, it would've been a bunch of labels to make
me feel good about me, and I feel good about me most of the time.
At least I'm aware of when I'm being a douche.
Chanel
Ryan Carnohan: so good.
I love it, man.
Why?
Kyle Carnohan: The only thing that comes to mind, the only thing that comes to
mind here is just like, like I am me.
And whatever my great struggle is, is my great privilege and
adventure to be a part of.
Let's go.
You know?
And then, and then you, you gather here and you get to be with a bunch of guys
struggling with their own shit, and we get to have this adventure together and we get
to be totally real about where we're at.
Just like Philip from Ireland, when he is like, Kyle, I can't believe it.
I thought I overcame this.
I drank last night.
Well, of course you fucking drank last night, dude, you, you, you
quit cold Turkey and you went three months and got stressed.
You had some drinks.
Like, fucking, I don't care.
Like, hey, congratulations on the epic three months, so let's
just get back on the train.
And, and nobody talks like that.
They're like, oh, well have you tried, uh, this technique?
And like, oh man, I'm so sorry I'm, you really blew it.
You're fucked.
It's like, I'm so sorry.
Your 90 days got disappeared.
This is the wrong outlook, man.
Like all I care about is a dude is trying.
That dude's trying.
I have the utmost respect.
Like, Ned, I knew you were trying like even a couple months in, I
was like, oh, full respect for Ned.
I'm like, N Ned's fucking at war.
And then he would, you'd slip and struggle and you'd share
your struggles with the men.
I'm like, that's it.
It's ain't about the results.
It's about the struggle.
You know, it's about the honest struggle and then sharing that with everyone to
give them power so they don't feel alone.
Ned Schaut: And then guess what happened.
So I think, I think that like it, you know, like right now, like
right now, we get to celebrate that.
Um, but the thing is, is like, this shit is hard.
Like anybody who's gonna do this, it doesn't get easier.
Like I got posted, my life should continue to get harder, right?
I mean, I mean, I wanna experience more peace, hope, joy, connection
with my wife, awareness.
Um, but it's all gonna get harder.
And, and that's the point, right?
That we're in a war.
So we gotta continue to fight battles and we're gonna continue to lose some battles.
But man, this is something that really hit me in this kind of discovery process
is yes, we're at war and yes, I can lose.
And if I lose, there's names associated with losing the war.
And that's Sarah Brooklyn, violet Presley, Brody, and Stella.
Those are the people that have been placed in my care.
Ooh.
And if I lose the war, bro, that's, we're talking about families for generations
that are gonna be impacted because of the way that I did or didn't show up.
You imagine?
I think, yeah.
On the front
Kyle Carnohan: lines bro.
Can you imagine protecting your family on the front lines
with everything's against him?
And dad sits on his ass cuz he's tired.
I can't fight anymore.
I'm tired.
It, it's really hard.
And then the, then the army comes and just massacres your family cuz you were fucking
Ned Schaut: tired.
And you know what bro?
You know who we need to protect our families from.
This guy said this, this isn't me, but I just heard this recently.
We gotta protect our families from us.
Yes.
He's like, we, we buy the nice house and we buy the ar.
Cool.
I know how to do jiu-jitsu.
Whatever, dude.
The fact that someone's gonna walk in your house and Jack with your family is slim.
The fact that you're gonna be an asshole to your family every day and destroy the
the man that your daughter's gonna marry, or the way your wife feels about her.
You gotta, this is about you battling the pussy inside you so that you
can build a legacy for the next thousand years of, of values in
this family that you've been given.
Dude,
Kyle Carnohan: Ned, whenever you talk, you get me going.
Usually I shut up in these, but me fired up.
Like I, every morning I wake up, the devil is speaking to me or whatever
you want to call that motherfucker and he says all kinds of shit to me.
You're gonna lose.
You're gonna be humiliated.
Everything's gonna fall apart.
You better stop this cuz it's only gonna get worse.
You're gonna increase.
He just says all this shit like you're not worthy.
You're a hypocrite.
And then I go to my Facebook and all the haters sound exactly like that voice.
Yes.
And I'm like, oh my God.
They're, they've been overtaken by the darkness and they're speaking
the same voice as the resistance.
And I'm like, oh my God, I see it so clearly.
So imagine those men in their homes that have been overtaken by
the resistance, where their words have become the fucking devil.
And that's what they're speaking to their families.
They're, they're completely hypnotized, sedated, disconnected,
and they're just crushing and destroying everything around them.
Ryan Carnohan: Damn.
Well, I, I was just gonna say, put my kids on, on your list, Ned,
and I'll put my kids on your list.
Vice versa for the war.
That's what you did for me, man.
I know.
I can depend on you because if I can go to you now, right?
Like you can come to me for advice and, and example.
Kyle, what you just said though was so damn powerful.
Kyle Carnohan: That's cause Ned's the best, uh, interviewer ever.
So when he speaks, he brings out the best in you.
Just listen to his podcast.
Ned Schaut: I do love interviewing dads.
Um, one thing I don't want to miss to share with you guys is
the moment that, uh, this shifted for me, it was, um, March 3rd.
I had probably failed my, like fifth or sixth time in like creating my chart to be
disciplined and I'm gonna get this done.
Uh, and I went on this walk on March 3rd.
In the evening, I can see right where I was, and I'm like,
God, I can't do this on my own.
Like, I literally can't do this.
I've, I, I've been trying, I've been trying, I've been trying.
I I just need your help.
And so I'm gonna commit to you right now.
Like, I, I don't need to find some guy to commit to.
I don't need to commit to my kids.
I just need to commit to you, like I need to be the man that you designed me to be.
And so I committed and I, I was like, I'm gonna fast tomorrow.
And then I kind of said what I was gonna do until Easter, which I did
the very next morning, I wake up to a homie calling me, saying, dude,
I had a dream about you last night.
This is weird.
I need to tell you what the dream is.
So he's, he shares his dream with me.
And the dream long story short, is he hired me to like, put
the flooring in, in his bed, in his house, uh, in his basement.
And then he, he left and he, he came back and I had torn up all the flooring
in the first story, not in the basement.
And.
What I heard that day was I was, I was starting in the wrong place.
Like I, I wasn't starting with where God wanted me to start.
I need, if I want to be a father who influences other fathers, I
gotta get my own house in order.
And that meant my fitness.
Let's go my, my health, my finances, and my marriage.
And so from that point on, man, I, I paid a like $80,000 a debt.
I, my, I I, I freed up $10,000 in cash.
I like did all these things in, in a 40 day period.
And that's when I also got posted is, is I surrendered to who I'm called to be.
Like I surrendered to that man and I still messed up with other
things probably or whatever.
But my point is it switched from me controlling an outcome to me,
surrendering to this is just who I am.
Ryan Carnohan: Let's go dude.
Ned Schaut: And so my point of saying this is like this whole thing is about
connection and awareness and it's freaking hard, but this is who we are.
Like if you're on this call, like this is who you are, you're called to this.
You can put whatever name on it you want to, but you're
called to your true identity.
And that's why you are here is to embrace that.
And why does this matter for us to be here together?
Dude, like my kids could marry your kids like I care so much how you freaking show
up as a dad, dude, and you should care how I show up as a dad because if my daughter
marries your son, like, dude, we want them to not have the same struggles we have.
We want them to be on that deeper level, right?
Like I told you, my life was awesome, but now I'm struggling with new things
I want my kids to struggle with, with deeper, more connected, more aware things
so that they can provide incredible value to this world that we've been given.
Ryan Carnohan: I love some of the things that you're saying.
Identity, um, you mentioned being what you're called to be, you know, all all.
And then you mentioned outcome.
Really powerful because the outcome doesn't matter so long
as you are who you need to be because it doesn't matter anymore.
Whatever arrives, you're gonna be you in the face of it.
And that is the most powerful position to put yourself in because that's when
impact happens when you're immovable.
I just, how did you, okay.
How did you get to
Ned Schaut: that?
Right there?
Freaking struggle, bro.
Yeah.
I'm not there yet, but this ain't about me, you know?
And it's easy for me to say right now cuz it's like, okay, there's, but.
Ryan Carnohan: The awareness there.
You know, how, how do you find it?
Because what is the trigger?
Because we all have these crazy things that happen.
Okay?
Yeah.
How do you, how do you, how are you prepared?
Because the
Ned Schaut: chaos is coming so, so legit.
I read, uh, I don't do it every morning, right?
So anybody who says they do something, every single is, is a liar.
But, uh, I read affirmations in the morning, right?
And I have an avatar.
His name is the captain.
And so whenever Kyle or Ryan or anybody says this like amazing
thing, I go put that in there.
That's what the captain would do.
And I read that in the morning.
This is who I'm striving to be, and this guy should continue to grow.
I'm never gonna reach that guy because I'm gonna keep growing
what that guy looks like.
Damn.
And then at the end of the day, maybe four, four nights a week
or whatever, you know, like when I, I, I'm actually committed to
do it the next a hundred days.
Cause I got some shit I'm working on, in, in my life, um, for this next level.
But I ask myself some questions, right?
So me and my kids, we sit down, we go over a journal and we go over like,
uh, but one of the questions right now for awareness is when did I, when
did, when did an opportunity come.
In an argument with my wife, and then did I respond the
way I want to or not and why?
So like, I journaled that at the end of the night.
So like, last night was great, man.
We, we went on a date.
She said something that annoyed me.
And in the moment I'm like, it's all good, dude, that just move right along.
So I journaled, Hey, you did great.
The day before she said something that irritated me and I'm
like, let's jump in the ring.
Let's fight for a minute.
That sounds fun.
And so I didn't respond well because I was being a little bitch about
it and just felt like fighting.
But what's happening now, which is frustrating me more, is in that argument.
I could see her standing across the room and I can feel myself
saying, dude, just go hug her, bro.
Just go hug her.
So Sunday I did.
So Sunday I'm like, Ned, stop being a big, just walk over.
So I walk over, I hug her dude, and she just starts crying and she
just, you know, melts in my arms.
And so that was a win.
And so what I'm doing is journaling at the end of the day of what opportunities was
I given to operate as the guy I wanna be.
Mm-hmm.
And then if I don't, why didn't I?
Um, and I'm failing a bunch, bro, but, uh, very, very
Ryan Carnohan: stoic of you.
I'm, that's amazing.
Yeah.
Kyle Carnohan: That shit's so hard to go hug your wife when you're pissed, dude.
Like, I, I wanna squeeze her so hard.
Her head pops off sometimes.
I'm like, I'll just give you a hug.
It's hard.
That's like the hardest shit in the world, dude,
Ned Schaut: bro.
Me and my son, I wrote this down, my son and I, I planned this father son
event, uh, for another organization last October, and my son went with me
and he helped lead some of the things.
And during it, dude, we did this devotion reading about Jesus asleep on
the boat, you know, and, uh, Peter, or no, when, when, uh, Peter, uh, was like
falling in the water, and I'm like, oh, well what do you think about this?
And uh, he's like, well, the reason that, uh, Peter started sinking was because he
was focusing on the storm and the waves.
And like my 13 year old son just created this amazing moment for me where he's
like teaching me, dude, the moments that I look at the storm and I don't look at
the captain, I don't look at who I am in this moment, bro, that's, let's go.
That is power.
Ryan Carnohan: That is so good.
Tell, give your boy a hug for me.
That was money I love.
Ned Schaut: Oh, bro.
He like led a journaling experience too.
It was so fire bro.
It was so good.
He's like standing in the middle of like maybe 75 men and kids and he's
just I mean, you, you give your kid an opportunity, call him into this.
Uh, and, and he led a group of men and kids.
I'm doing some gratitude journaling and it was, it was pretty epic, bro.
Ryan Carnohan: And so you said, and your boy said two things that are
very similar to what you're talking about being this person that you're
called to be amidst the storm.
And, and you fo instead of focusing on like, and you said it with your wife,
you said, I'm in an argument and it's an opportunity you asked yourself at night.
This is where was my opportunities to demonstrate my virtues, my
values, what I know I should be, and that's what inconvenience is.
It's just an opportunity to demonstrate virtue that captain that you're
talking about, amidst the storm and the winds and everything, the
preparation was, had already been done.
It was the moment to be that man.
And so that's why you, we do what we do because moments like that are gonna
come and we have trained ourselves to be able to find our values to
be that man, that man, that man amidst the, the chaos of the storm.
Freaking, this is so beautiful.
Absolutely amazing.
Yeah.
Ned Schaut: I think the other thing that, that can get a little, uh, interesting
with what we're doing here when you're talking about food and fitness and sleep
and stuff, is to, to acknowledge that as a man, I have needs, like I ha I have needs,
I was born into this world with needs.
I'm hungry, I'm tired.
I need sex, and I need to do something with my hands.
I mean, those are kind of like four needs that I would think that
I kind of operate in day to day.
And three of those, I actually have a lot more control and
influence over than I realized.
Right.
Have I fed myself well, have I got enough rest?
And did I do something physical, which is kind of all the superhuman fathers think.
Now my belief is if you do those well then the fourth one, the sex is gonna
come, uh, is gonna, it's gonna happen.
As long as you're not, I mean, dude, you gotta get pornography.
You gotta get masturbation.
You gotta get all that shit outta your life.
That stuff will des that will destroy you.
Um,
Kyle Carnohan: and stop on that right now and let's let the guys let that soak
in because there's a, you know, for a long time I didn't quite understand that.
I was like, well, why does it matter?
Like, what, why does it matter?
And it's just like someone who drinks a ton, it's like, why does it matter?
I mean, I'm on, I'm not hurting anyone.
Why does it matter?
Ned Schaut: Dude, because there's something spiritual that happens, bro.
It's like if, if you know, like those moments, you have the most incredible
sex with your wife, where like you were pissed at each other or you
were not together for a while and you came together and it was just like,
like, you can't explain it, but, but like, you just gave me each other.
Like you gave yourself to each other.
It's like, oh my god.
So it's like if I'm in a hotel room and I just freaking Eric off and give
that to nothing, like there's something I'm giving of myself and it's just
going into the trash can, whatever.
If I can wait, figure out, go do a workout, go eat something, go do something
else, then, but when I get home, then make that connection with my wife.
Then there's, there's just a connection there, man.
There's just a connection.
Yeah.
Kyle Carnohan: Like I did the same thing where I was like, this is yours now.
It's not anything and I, it's not anything other than yours.
And I, and I, I save it for
Ryan Carnohan: you.
Yes.
Kyle Carnohan: Period.
And, and I know for some guys right now they're thinking like, that's impossible.
Like there's no way.
There isn't a way.
Like I, I would eat, dude, I was jerking off every day, bro.
Like, it was like the way to put myself to sleep.
So like, I was like, I can't sleep without it, you know?
But then it then, and then I just like, just like anything, just like
food, like any, any, uh, just like nicotine, uh, just like fucking cupcakes.
It's like you're not gonna die.
In fact, you're gonna get more hungry for life.
When I started getting rid of that stuff, everything, my sex got better.
My money started flowing to me.
People were magnetized towards me when I spoke.
I spoke with power.
I couldn't speak with power when I had that shit.
Like, I couldn't speak with power.
When I was jerking off every day, I
Ryan Carnohan: could ask, did it, did it make you bad?
Did it make you a bad guy, Kyle?
Kyle Carnohan: No, bro.
No, it's not.
I'm not bad.
I'm just.
Man, I'm just making a bad trade and having less of a fulfilled life.
Ned Schaut: That's all.
I think that's a huge, huge to go is none of this is about good or bad necessarily.
This is all about like, am I operating at, at who I am?
Kyle Carnohan: Epic life.
So why not do the things that set you up in power?
And we know now that power is so fickle, it's so fickle.
It'll leave you in a split second with a thought.
And so that's where the discipline comes in, and that's where we have to keep
hold the line even with our drifting thoughts, because all of a sudden,
whoop, distracted out of power, boom.
He gets you stuck.
You're drifting now for the rest of the day, and now it's at night.
You're frustrated.
You're yelling at your kids and your wife.
You're like, why?
Why does it even matter?
What's the point of this bullshit?
Ned Schaut: And someone spills some shit and you're like,
Kyle Carnohan: God damn it, what's wrong with you kids?
I gotta do all this in this house and make this money.
I'm so stressed.
And it just, it's a snowball.
And it started with one thought.
Ryan Carnohan: And if you are hearing this and you're like, I
don't know if I could do that.
Okay, maybe you were, Kyle was all right, where it's every night.
Kyle Carnohan: Start with the macros.
I'm not gonna jerk off tonight.
And then I was like, I'm gonna jerk off.
Ryan Carnohan: Okay?
Hit your macros.
Hit your macros first.
Yeah, if you can, if you all, if you can get macros, guess what?
It'll bleed over.
I'm telling you.
Okay.
So it,
Kyle Carnohan: sometimes it feels like your brain's itching.
That's where you wanna be.
You wanna sit in the spot where you have a itchy brain, like that's your power spot.
I swear to God, listen to me carefully.
When your brain is itching for pleasure and you deny it, you're,
you're taking the resistance and you're knocking its fucking teeth out.
It has no power over you.
Lemme tell you something, I'm gonna tell you this really quick.
Sorry Ned, I'm stealing your time.
But no, he
Ryan Carnohan: doesn't steal.
You can't, you can't help it.
I smoke.
I smoke a
Kyle Carnohan: cigar like twice a week.
I like to sit down with the boys.
It's been this.
I don't get to have a phone and I have to talk to the boys with my cigar.
And it's amazing.
I love it.
I love that moment.
I, we've had the most amazing experiences together with my kids at Cigar Time.
Fire pit.
Now, please understand, I don't believe cigars are wrong at all.
Enjoy your cigars please.
But yesterday morning I had just bought a bunch more.
They're so nice.
I was gonna have one tonight.
And, uh, in the morning, the voice that, that resistance
started to go, Hey, hypocrite.
Hey, you fucking hypocrite.
How about those cigars?
Huh?
You don't want anyone to know about those, huh?
And I was like, I'll walk right over to.
My pile of high-end, expensive cigars.
I threw it in the trash.
I said, fuck you.
And he is like, wait, wait, wait.
No, no, no.
You can't, you can't do that.
You won't do that.
I'm like, just, did you have zero leverage on me?
Zero.
Whether he, and, and what he spoke was a lie.
He spoke a lie.
But I don't even give him a lie.
I'm not even a lie.
I'm like, okay, we're gonna go there.
Call your bluff, bro.
Never again.
How's that motherfucker?
Let's go.
Ned Schaut: So I'm open to any questions.
I got two more thoughts if you want 'em, and then dude, hit
Ryan Carnohan: the thoughts.
Okay.
I'm gonna bring this back in because I, I'm selfish.
I wanted to ask you a couple more.
Okay.
Chad's got a question though.
Chad's a genius, so, okay, hang on.
One more.
You.
Some pillars or stones or something that you wanted to share with us?
Um, was that just, uh, like a, a saying I thought literally, have
you written down like 10 things?
Cause I'm in, I wanna know 'em all and we can save some of 'em when I come on your
podcast, but I wanna, I wanna hear it.
No,
Ned Schaut: I, I, I pretty much hit one of 'em.
Most of 'em, the only one I didn't hit was the, a huge realization
I had that I would've called myself an intentional father.
And in a lot of ways I was intentional, but I came up with a new word.
I realized that I wasn't really being as much of an intentional
father as I thought I was really being more of a expectational father.
So I was completing all these incredible moments with my family.
But when you're, when you're living an expectation, whether like it's a camp
trip or a family meeting, or family dinner or whatever, if I'm expecting it to go
a certain both look the same, right?
Like, let's just pick a camp trip.
You still have to plan, you still have to prepare.
But if you go into it as an expectational father, you're never actually there.
You're always on the sidelines watching it unfold.
Let's go criticizing what's happening, hoping that it turns out the way you want.
So you're not like, when shit falls apart, you're not there enjoying it.
You're just like, oh, well when I was a kid, this is how we did it.
Or, oh, well, I thought it was gonna work out like this or, so then
you're never there and, and you, you're there, but you're not there.
Nobody's having a good time where an intentional father, he
creates space and like most of your, my job is just create space.
I still gotta plan, I still gotta prepare.
But then when we show up for family time, family meeting,
family dinner, sports, whatever the thing is, then you just be there.
You know, it's not gonna go to plan, but that's okay.
You just created space for life and story to unfold.
And that's where like the beauty of like being present is.
And so that was a huge aha for me is, is to lean into being a truly
intentional father, creating space for my family versus creating expectation.
Holy smokes.
Ryan Carnohan: A intentional father builds space.
And there was some other word you said, damnit.
It was so, yeah.
Essential father builds space for the story.
Ned Schaut: Well, I didn't say he unfold or something.
He creates, he creates space like you and I we're creators we're supposed to
create, and a lot of times we give all that shit to a job or a career or a hobby.
Like I put all my creative energy into something else, not my home.
I don't create space for my family.
Like, dude, I'm goosebumps.
I'm the one who creates space.
This isn't about making my kids good or bad.
This is about creating a safe environment for my family to experience life.
Ryan Carnohan: And, and you said something about working with your hands as a man.
You, it's so cool.
It's all connected.
Like, creation
Ned Schaut: is selfless.
You're dying, bro.
If you're not creating, you're
Ryan Carnohan: dying.
Yeah.
Creation is selfless.
I I, man, this is amazing.
But if
Ned Schaut: you're creating, you can't just be creating for yourself.
Like that is empty.
No, no.
That's empty.
You gotta create value for other people.
Ryan Carnohan: Selfless.
The artist is selfless.
Man.
That's beautiful.
Ned Schaut: You gotta just give it away.
Give it away.
And there's where the expectation comes away.
Cause if, if I create a gift weekend for my family and they don't respond
the way I want, and I'm just like, oh, you guys don't appreciate me.
Like, they don't wanna be with me, they don't wanna be around me.
They don't wanna follow me.
Chris said it on the, the one of the things like, are you somebody
like, would you follow you?
Like, that shit was good.
Ryan Carnohan: Okay.
We're gonna let Chad go in one moment.
There was a, a question on creating space, which Chad's always tapped
in, so I guarantee this is already probably what we were talking about.
Okay.
He just tells the future.
Um, but Nick purchase here, Nick Purchase is wondering some of the tools
that you use Ned to create that space.
He says, what does that look like?
I think what it say says, when you say planning to create that space,
what does that look like for you?
How are you doing that, Ned?
And then we'll let Chad go.
Ned Schaut: How am I, I track everything.
So I could tell you like last year, this was a huge aha for me when I reviewed
my statistics or my data from last year compared to the neighbor and a bunch
of other people, I'm a great husband.
I, I spent two and a half percent of my time with my wife and about 10% of my
time on my fitness, that's some horseshit.
So now I'm, I'm, it's June and I'm averaging eight and a half percent
of intentional time with my wife.
But that means that I have to have metrics to look at.
So like at the end of the week, I look at how much time that I spend.
Now, I'll tell you that I think that this will transition for me because there is
a difference between time and energy.
So it's like, I, I might have to go to my job for 40 hours and I might
have a commute that's 10 hours.
Like that just might be my life.
So I gotta think about what's the energy I'm putting into that versus the
energy I'm giving to my wife and kids.
So, so it may not be a time for time thing.
It might be more of an energy awareness, but um, you have to freaking reflect.
Like if you're the captain of your ship, you better have a map
that you freaking decided on.
Okay?
And then you better pull that thing out once a week, once a month and
go, did last week, am I on track?
Let's go.
Yeah.
Am I on course or we not On course.
Otherwise, it's just like the storms, the waves, whatever, like
you're just floating like that.
That ain't responsibility, bro.
And if you have a wife and kids and a life and a heartbeat, you have responsibility.
So you better pay attention to that.
Otherwise you letting your boss, you letting your wife dictate that.
Now your wife has a huge input.
She knows shit you don't know.
She's way wiser than you in a lot of areas.
So acknowledge that and respect that and listen to that.
But you've gotta lead, you've gotta make decisions, you've
gotta take responsibility anyways.
Ryan Carnohan: And that comes, that goes back to the fights you were having,
cuz that's the uncomfortable position you put yourself as a man because.
Especially those guys that were like me, who didn't, were not in the
leadership position for a long time.
She will fight you.
Sit in it, find your values, and be immovable and smile and love in
response and watch what happens.
All right, Chad, what you got dog?
Chad: What up Ned?
Dude, let me just say like, um, I'm
like sitting here super
emotional cause I'm like, I don't, I don't think you understand
the, the impact that this interview's had on me today.
Mm.
I
got goosebumps.
Like you, you, when you described this, uh,
Gosh, I hope I don't wreck this car with my baby in it.
Um, but when you
describe, um,
I had the insides,
but I didn't have the outsides.
My conscience told
me the exact opposite.
Let's go.
And like I know that now you guys might, you guys might look at me and be like, oh,
I, you know, Chad, he hasn't figured out what's he talking about?
Da da da da.
Trust me.
I
feel
bankrupt
sometimes inside.
And then sometimes, like I look at
the outside, I'm like, damn, I almost
fooled myself that I had it figured
out.
Mm-hmm.
And then I hear people like Ned and I listen to Kyle and I listen to you guys.
I listen to Ryan, I listen to all of you, man.
And I'm like, oh
man.
Shoot.
There is like, so many levels in
the levels, you know what I mean?
Like, there's all these levels in the levels and like what
your interview is teaching
me is, I, I,
I thought of the
word creator, like what Ned
is, is he's a creator.
And then literally 15, 30
seconds later, you said the
word creator.
And I'm like, damn.
Yes dude, yes.
That is
so, so money.
And then I thought about like,
it's just incredible, man.
Like, I was just thinking to myself like, Chad,
you're not creating right now.
You're just
doing,
you're just doing stuff.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's no intention.
There's not a rudder to your ship.
Get your shit together, Chad.
Like storms
are coming.
And dude, I, I love that story of Peter and I love that story of Jesus.
And I wanna believe dude and with all my heart,
when ge when Peter was falling in that
water
and Jesus pulled him
out, I wanna believe he walked
back to the ship with Jesus.
You know,
I wanna believe that.
I don't know if it's true.
I don't think it even says, it's just kinda like, and Jesus, you
know, pulled him up outta the water.
And then it's like,
what happened is, is the, the stories, both the stories, whatever
it is that that is speaking to you, what, you know what I'm saying?
So like, when there's just a bunch of white space, right?
Yeah.
It,
Ned Schaut: it's, it's what do you need outta that story?
And so that story's gonna speak to people in different ways based
on what they need and what God's trying to communicate to them.
Yeah.
I love
that.
I love that.
Thank you.
So, yeah.
That, that dude, dude, I, I cannot wait.
I'm watching
you dude.
Like a freaking hawk because
I saw something that night.
Wow.
I wanna be n dude,
shit.
Uh, well here's the beauty of you saying that.
Like when you say that to me, I get a chill and then I go, they'll be a point
where the words that come outta my mouth are that I'm gonna let you down, but
it's not totally I'm gonna let you down.
It's that I'm gonna need you.
Right.
So the thing is, is like if we are co-creators and we are men
given responsibility, we can't put so much weight on one man.
We put him up here and then our world crumbles.
When he crumbles, when he, when he starts to crumble, it's like, no, bro,
we are here and I need you to help me.
And that's why the freaking authenticity of putting all
the darkness into the light.
Doesn't make anybody on this call a guru doesn't make us
perfect, doesn't make us good.
It means that we need each other and there's gonna be days that I
deliver a message that's good for you.
Then there's gonna be days that I need a message so bad, and if you
don't share it, then I'm missing out.
And I think that's one of the keys is if you're on this call, you
have something to offer the tribe.
And if you're not saying it, you're not offering it, then I'm losing out.
That's true.
You know what?
You
know what?
Your
most powerful thing to give to your brothers is your darkest truth.
Ugh.
We need that, bro.
Help us.
Help us be be true to ourselves by showing us strength.
We love you.
You can't disappoint us.
We're here to catch you.
And we know you're the same for us.
We
need you.
Wow.
Indeed.
Kyle Carnohan: It's great to be able to be a leader and still be imperfect
and be in alignment and, and it's worth saying over and over again, live the
message that you teach, or at least speak the truth you're living, period.
If you do that, you can lead men as an imperfect man.
Ryan Carnohan: How do you do that?
As the leader, Kyle, you constantly push yourself.
Yes, yes.
You, you nev you constantly push yourself so you understand every
other man that's pushing himself to claw out of the darkness.
Yes.
You invite the darkness back because you live in such a hard way.
So you can empathize.
Man, this is a good call.
Damn.
Alright.
Kyle Carnohan: Uh, I'm, I'm gonna, is there, is there anybody else?
God, we got a lot of hands.
Holy shit.
Let's let it roll.
I gotta get out and, and, uh, I'm gonna walk down.
We're gonna play some pickleball with the family, but I'm,
Ryan Carnohan: I'm in, I'm here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll go quick.
So, Levi, hit it.
What's up
Ned Schaut: man?
I don't know if you remember me, but I met you at gym at the Yeah, bro.
Remember it was crazy, bro.
That's when I was first starting, you know, and, um, Listening to you, bro.
Such a great inspiration.
Just wanna say thank you, bro.
And uh, I'm one of those porn addicts, those, um, fucking whacking at all time.
Like, that's exactly why I'm in this group, man.
Cause of that accountability.
I couldn't, I thought I could hold myself accountable.
There's no such thing, man.
I needed all of you guys.
Juan community.
Yeah man.
And so I just wanna say, man, thank you, thank you, thank you
to all the men and thank you.
Thank you man.
Cause I know this is your transformation.
So my wife was like, oh, we were gonna go get some food.
And I usually, I'm, I'm the one that gets out.
Go get some food.
She was like, you need to stay and listen to this.
Mm-hmm.
Kyle Carnohan: I was like, yeah.
Ned Schaut: And now we're, we're at Costco, we're about go to Costco
and we're just waiting here, bro, for the, the Zoom to be over.
Cause it's just, it's amazing man.
So many That's up Chris Nuggets.
I mean, Ryan, sorry
bro.
Thank you.
Ryan Carnohan: Chris does too.
All of us too.
Okay, so, um, I actually forgot.
I have a call cause So Kyle, bro, zoom might kick us off.
I don't know what's gonna happen.
I don't know.
I'll make you host Kyle.
Okay?
I don't know.
I, I got so much to do with moving and everything.
Kyle, you're muted, bro.
Kyle Carnohan: Okay.
All I'm gonna say is this, just in case it kicks you off, you can make Ned the
co-host if everybody dies, so be it.
But let's just, okay, perfect.
Let's, let's just do this.
Make sure everyone supports Ned in everything that he does.
Go to his podcast, review it, watch, buy his book,
Ryan Carnohan: be part of what he's doing.
Whatever.
Kyle Carnohan: Buy his book.
Buy his journal like he has earned this.
And he'll tell you he doesn't give a shit.
But I'm telling you, let's support our people that lead
us and show what's possible.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Ryan Carnohan: Ned, I love you man.
You have.
Kyle Carnohan: All my respect and I put you, I dude, I, I put your effort and your
grit and your honesty on a pedal stool.
Not
Ryan Carnohan: you.
There you go.
That thank you, bro.
Right?
Kyle Carnohan: That's, that's what I need.
I don't give a shit if you're perfect.
I know you're not.
We know we're not.
But man, he's not gonna get us.
The adversary will not get us when we're this honest and real, it's impossible.
Love you guys.
I'm
out.
I hope you enjoyed this transformation from Superhuman Fathers, and
one thing I want you to know is that anyone can do this.
Yes, even you.
Go to superhuman fathers.com and apply for the Brotherhood right now.
Overdub: Next Time on Super Human Fathers Transformation Podcast
Greg Lowe: Accountability.
That's everything.
Attending the Zoom calls, getting the, you know, sharing the mindset, you know,
imbibing, selflessness, um, not being, you know, just challenging the thinking
that it's all about you and what you want.
I know that's, uh, you know, a way to, to destroy yourself and everybody around you.