Get Me to the Gray

No guest this week — and that's the episode.
Get Me to the Gray is built on the belief that most hard conversations are worth having. That polarization is often performance, and that real dialogue — across genuine difference — is possible if both people are willing to stay in it.
This week tested that belief. And what it gave me wasn't a failure. It was clarity.
There are extremes with which certain conversations can't be had. That's not a reason to stop trying — it's a reason to be honest about where the line is, and why it exists. This episode is about where I found mine.
Get Me to the Gray is produced by COJA Services. Visit cojaservices.com to learn more.

Creators and Guests

PL
Host
Paula Lehman-Ewing
Host, Founder of COJA Services
CP
Composer
Chris Principe
JE
Producer
James Ewing
JK
Producer
Jamie Konegni
Marketing Director
JM
Writer
Jason Masino
Programs and Partnerships

What is Get Me to the Gray?

Get Me to the Gray, presented by COJA Services Inc., is a podcast about the conversations we’re told we shouldn’t have. Hosted by journalist and author Paula Lehman-Ewing, the show brings people with fundamentally different ways of seeing the world into honest dialogue—where we name what divides us and keep talking anyway.

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