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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. I'm Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to it. Chris. This is a big day.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's Jeff, I guess, and he's in a hurry.

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<v Speaker 1>So as the Jeff of the show, Yes, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to push it forward because it's Friday and as such,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know we are all dying to discover, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what made Chris mad this week? Well? I have one? Really, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't see that coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even have to think for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you wonder why this is a segment, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>because when we ask what made Chris mad this week ago? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I've got one. Two days ago, I was

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<v Speaker 1>so angry. Here's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Okay, this was actually tragic and this has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with why I was mad at all. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm about to tell you is not what

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<v Speaker 2>made me mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We were traveling from you know, Michigan, Detroit, Michigan, down

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<v Speaker 2>to Canton, Ohio to do this video shoot at the

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Football Hall of Fame and we get delayed two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half We sat in traffic two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half hours because there was a tragedy. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>car tracking trailer, a big car accident. People actually lost

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<v Speaker 2>their lives, and so we were in this uh literally

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<v Speaker 2>I put in park and we sat in the truck

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<v Speaker 2>for two and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Well just in park. People were left.

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<v Speaker 2>Their cars that were walking along the freeway and it

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<v Speaker 2>was not that was a turnpike.

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<v Speaker 1>So and so then nowhere else you're stuck right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because you know, if you're on the freeway, people

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<v Speaker 2>can like make their way to the next exit. But

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<v Speaker 2>there was no exit, so there was like it was

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<v Speaker 2>like fourteen miles between two exits or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Something crazy. So anyway, that's not what made me mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what made me mad is that the GPS, the

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<v Speaker 2>GPS could have done a better job and because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>I could have avoided all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you made it the GPS. Correct, Okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>bring it, because I'm on your team. Now, Okay, here's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're traveling and if you've ever traveled the turnpike

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<v Speaker 2>across Ohio, it pretty much like slices Ohio. Like right

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<v Speaker 2>at the top, right, it pretty much runs as a

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<v Speaker 2>straight line from Toledo all the way through Youngstown. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it comes comes zippity zooe, you know, do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's one straight line. There's no there's no

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<v Speaker 2>quicker way across Ohio. Right. So, uh so we're here,

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<v Speaker 2>we are traveling on this, you know, on this, on

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<v Speaker 2>this turnpike, and all of a sudden the thing reroutes

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<v Speaker 2>and it shows, it says, it says, no, take this route.

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<v Speaker 1>And it has me, I'm not even kidding listening to this.

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<v Speaker 1>It has me.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving the turnpike and going all the way up to

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<v Speaker 2>Sandusky in the tippity top of the tippity parts of

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<v Speaker 2>like those little islands. It has me going that way right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like and then like going through all these

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<v Speaker 2>back roads and then zooming down of some freeway or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and then finally emerging, you know, somewhere you know, closer

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<v Speaker 2>to like Akron or something. Right, and I'm thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>what is happening? And it says you're gonna lose twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one minutes. It says twenty minutes, twenty one minutes lower

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<v Speaker 2>But here's what it didn't do. What it didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>is it didn't tell me why you would think of

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<v Speaker 2>modern technology. It could have said, just show red, show something, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's blue. What were you using?

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<v Speaker 2>I was using Apple Maps?

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Maps really yes, wow?

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<v Speaker 2>But however Wesley turned on Google Maps and it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>show it. It didn't show ready either, didn't show red. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're tracking your phones everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how they know what.

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<v Speaker 2>They have track phones on Apple Maps.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, yeah, I know, and they it didn't show that

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<v Speaker 1>it was read. It didn't show red. Wow. You should

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<v Speaker 1>have been using Ways.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe Ways, maybe that would have worked. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it shows blue and then it shows this other

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<v Speaker 2>blue and it says, oh, take this one twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>minutes lower.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, who's going to take that one? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I'm like, why is it doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>And we kept on asking. And so here's what I

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<v Speaker 2>should have done. I should have literally pulled over, because

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that I was on the turnpike, hindsight being twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>I should have pulled over and said, let's examine, let's

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<v Speaker 2>analyze truly before we make this mistake of committing to

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<v Speaker 2>this fourteen hours, fourteen miles stretch between exits, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is so goofy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're traveling. I'm like, look at this thing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just passed everything until finally we So, Apple Maps tried.

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<v Speaker 1>To warn you and you refused it. It didn't and

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<v Speaker 1>now you're mad.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to give me an absurd suggestion without telling me.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was it wrong? The suggestion? Yes? No, no, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was not communicating. Tried to it just didn't write right.

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<v Speaker 1>The robot didn't communicate in your love language, and you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't hear. How about pertinent information? How about essential reasons? Why? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Does? Does? Do you have the serie talk out loud

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<v Speaker 1>to you on your maps? I can? And what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of voice do you use? The normal one? Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>typical one is the normal the lady? Yeah, the lady. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So my wife got a hold of Ways and she

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<v Speaker 1>recorded her voice over Ways. Yes, so now it's always

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<v Speaker 1>my wife here. You go, have a pleasant drive. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? Took it off? I say that thing that

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<v Speaker 1>sound like BONDI to me? Is it it did? That'd

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<v Speaker 1>be weird. Here we go, let's see if it doesn't now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyways, but but I've heard her.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard her give you instructions on that, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was such a surprise. She even yells at you too, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be like like if if I miss my turn,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll go, oh, brother, turn around, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so I just think with modern technology the

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<v Speaker 2>way that it is, the Apple Maps could have done something.

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<v Speaker 1>What turn right, Yeah, that's so good. Make a U turn,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so good. Yeah. So now my wife gets to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what to do everywhere I go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't escape her. That's right, you can't escape. So

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<v Speaker 1>then the yeah, so then if if if that had

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me and it told me to go another

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<v Speaker 1>way and I did and do it, I couldn't come

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<v Speaker 1>home and complain because she tried to warn me, right right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think with a modern technology, they should have

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<v Speaker 2>done something other than saying, hey, I have an idea,

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<v Speaker 2>lose twenty one minutes for no reason all. And both

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<v Speaker 2>of them are blue, they're both they both look like

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to work, but take the longer route.

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<v Speaker 1>You would do that. That's true with with it being

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<v Speaker 1>red or blue instead of red. It just hadn't updated

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<v Speaker 1>yet on that thing, correct, but it was updating that. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably are going to want.

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<v Speaker 2>This, yes, yeah, and so in hindsight I would have

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<v Speaker 2>taken twenty one minute loss versus.

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<v Speaker 1>A two and a half hour loss. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty rough man. Okay, so that's what made

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<v Speaker 1>you mad this week? Yes, I'm mad. Do you need

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<v Speaker 1>to call somebody you want to? I want to straighten

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<v Speaker 1>this out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm really hoping is that somebody will forward this

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<v Speaker 2>episode to the leader of Apple Maps.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so if you know him, could you or her

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<v Speaker 1>send it? Just send it, send it and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's got to be a way where you can inform

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<v Speaker 1>us why we're being diverted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, please, yes, okay, maybe, man.

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<v Speaker 1>We thank you Chris on behalf of all the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us that you're irate for. We cannot thank you

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<v Speaker 1>enough for the sacrifices you make for the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 2>On behalf of everybody in that line, that's right, that

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<v Speaker 2>was with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome, buddy. Okay, well we are we are In

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<v Speaker 1>First Samuel chapter twenty three lots has happened, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>all the same kind of stuff. David goes out, has victories.

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<v Speaker 1>Saul starts getting freaked out. He decides he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>kill David. David has to go hide, then David. Then

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<v Speaker 1>Saul apologizes, come back David. All these things. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, David is starting to kind of rally

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<v Speaker 1>the troops. Some of these really tough guys start coming

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<v Speaker 1>towards him to him at this time. And so there's

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<v Speaker 1>David is a great leader of Saul's army, but he

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of has a special forces group, David's mighty men,

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred of them. And so here's what it says,

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<v Speaker 1>or in our first Samuel, chapter twenty three, verse thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>it says, so David and his men, about six hundred them,

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<v Speaker 1>now left Kila and began roaming the countryside. Words soon

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<v Speaker 1>reached saw that David had escaped, so he didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>after Quila or go to Quila after all. David now

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in the strongholds of the wilderness and in the

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<v Speaker 1>hill country of Ziff. Saul hunted him day after day,

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<v Speaker 1>but God didn't tell let Saul find him. Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having troubles today. One day near Horash, David received the

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<v Speaker 1>news that Saul was on the way to Zif to

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<v Speaker 1>search for him and kill him. Jonathan went to find

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<v Speaker 1>David and encouraged him to stay strong in his faith

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<v Speaker 1>in God. Don't be afraid, Jonathan reassured him, My father

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<v Speaker 1>will never find you. You're going to be king of Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will be next to you, as my father

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<v Speaker 1>saw is well aware. So the two of them renewed

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<v Speaker 1>their solemn pact before the Lord. Then Jonathan returned home,

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<v Speaker 1>while David stayed in Horash. But now the men of

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<v Speaker 1>Zif went to Saul in Ghibea and betrayed David to him.

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<v Speaker 1>We know where David is hiding, they said. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>the strongholds of Horace, in the hill of Aquilah. Yeah, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in the southern part. Jesshamon, Oh, okay, come

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<v Speaker 1>down whenever you're ready, o King, and we will catch

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<v Speaker 1>him and hand him over to you. The Lord bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>Saul said, at last, someonet is concerned about me. Go

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<v Speaker 1>and check again to be sure of where he's staying

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<v Speaker 1>and who has seen him there, For I know that

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<v Speaker 1>he's been very crafty. Discover his hiding places and come

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<v Speaker 1>back when you're sure, and then I'll go with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he's in the area at all, I'll track

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<v Speaker 1>him down, even if I have to search every hiding

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<v Speaker 1>place in Judah. So the men of Ziph returned home

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of Saul. Meanwhile, Dave and his men had moved

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<v Speaker 1>into the wilderness of Maeon in the Araba Valley south

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<v Speaker 1>of Jeshamon. When David heard that Saal and his men

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<v Speaker 1>Saul and David were now on opposite sides of a mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so it's really an entire half a chapter about

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<v Speaker 2>David running yeah, and he has good support from great men.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, He's got six hundred of them who are loyal

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<v Speaker 2>He still has the favor of the people, he still

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<v Speaker 2>has the favor of the nation, quite honestly, but Saul

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<v Speaker 2>Unashamedly you know, hunting him now, right, So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>I've repented, which, by the way, he did, he repented

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, and it actually says that poor David.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually we skipped over it, but poor David had actually

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we skipped over that. But like David, actually, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so afraid of Sault that he had to

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<v Speaker 2>his enemies. And now we know it's a town of

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<v Speaker 2>his enemies, because we literally just read that a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days ago in the Bible, guys, where it said that,

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<v Speaker 2>remember they said when Goliath was killed, they ran as

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<v Speaker 2>to Gath. Well, this is where David ran. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it actually says that while he was there trying to hide,

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<v Speaker 2>noticed that that was David and actually said, isn't this

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<v Speaker 2>became afraid, and then he started acting like a madman.

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<v Speaker 2>And it says he started scratching the door, and he

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<v Speaker 1>Himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then to where the king just said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>mad man. Get rid of him, get him out of here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's not going to execute a mad man.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't fun. No, it stopped being fun when like

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<v Speaker 2>But but you know, I mean, think about all David

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<v Speaker 2>had gone through. How humiliating are all of those things?

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<v Speaker 2>And then it said he went to the cave of Adullum.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and now he's in the wilderness. So there

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<v Speaker 2>was a place where he actually had had hidden in

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<v Speaker 2>the cave. God did this great work in the cave.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually wrote another psalm while he was in the cave.

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<v Speaker 2>We skipped over that, and then and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>God does this miraculous thing saying that's gonna be on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Bible, guys, God does this miraculous thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't want to miss Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to miss Monday. So it's right around

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<v Speaker 2>the corner. But isn't that true that so many of

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<v Speaker 2>us we can't see what's around the corner, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know if it's going to be next year,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're still in the wilderness. When you find yourself

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<v Speaker 2>in the wilderness. You know, it's tempting to think that

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<v Speaker 2>God's not there, that God doesn't see, that God gave up.

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<v Speaker 2>But God still sees you. God still loves you, God

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<v Speaker 2>still knows you. And believe me, God is still working

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes. And that's exactly what he's doing in

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<v Speaker 2>the life of David. And guess what, that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing in your life as well. He's not forgotten

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<v Speaker 2>you and he's with you always.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two big things that David did, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was really wise in doing them. One, he pulled

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of support around him. He has these six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred Special Forces guys. These are the elite of the elite.

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<v Speaker 1>David's mighty men wind up coming out of this group.

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<v Speaker 1>But he has some great fighters and so he pulled

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<v Speaker 1>some resources around him to help him. That's one. The

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<v Speaker 1>other one is he has a great friend in Jonathan, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so Jonathan is Saul's son. But Jonathan to see the

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<v Speaker 1>writing on the wall and was like, hey, God has

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<v Speaker 1>his hand on David. David's going to be king and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to support him. My dad is walking away

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<v Speaker 1>from God, which means I'm going to lose. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be king. But David is walking with God and

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<v Speaker 1>support him. And they made a promise. They made a

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<v Speaker 1>the other would take care of the other one's family, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they kind of they made this promise. Eventually David

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<v Speaker 1>fulfills that, which is really incredible. But Jonathan, they encourage

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<v Speaker 1>each other in each other's faith, not just in hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be okay, and I'm on your side,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're building each other's faith. They pray for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>They encourage one another to be strong in your faith.

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<v Speaker 1>And this may have been the last time that Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a sweetness to the friendship. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's why it's so important for you to invest in

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<v Speaker 1>having a godly group of people around you. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>for the easy times. Quite honestly, a bunch of friends

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<v Speaker 1>when things are good sometimes can just get in the way. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>You're busy, you got to be out another night. You're investing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're cultivating this friendship. It's when things get bad, that

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<v Speaker 1>you need this army around you when things get bad

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<v Speaker 1>is when you need a friend like Jonathan who sticks

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<v Speaker 1>closer than a brother. Right, that you need these things.

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<v Speaker 1>You invest in relationships for the times when you need

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<v Speaker 1>And so you choose to be that person for others

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<v Speaker 1>when they're in their trouble, and then when you need one,

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<v Speaker 1>God's going to bring those people back to you. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he did. I think there's so much wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>in investing in those kind of godly relationships. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what carried him through. He's not alone in his struggles.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know we read I think it was yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>and yesterday or the day first podcast where we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about uh it said Jonathan loved David as much as

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<v Speaker 2>he loved himself. What a description and and and uh

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that I have to say this because

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<v Speaker 2>I know there are hundreds of listeners, uh listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this and they've probably heard uh. You know, people try

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<v Speaker 2>to take this example and make the relationship something perverted,

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<v Speaker 2>like like something that it wasn't right. And yet and

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<v Speaker 2>yet these are the same words that Jesus used for

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<v Speaker 2>all of us to say, the greatest commandment is to

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<v Speaker 2>love the Lord your God with all your hearts, on mind, strength.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the second greatest commandment is to love your

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's loving Jonathan, or Jonathan loves David like like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Who lives in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get off the phone, we say, a man,

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<v Speaker 2>love you, right, and so we're expressing this friendship that's

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<v Speaker 2>closer than a brother and uh and then and and

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's the friend that David has in Jonathan. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when he says I'm going to be beside you,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean in the relationship capacity. It means in

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<v Speaker 2>the traditional capacity when when he says, hey, you're the king,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be beside you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be your prime minister of your chamberlain.

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<v Speaker 2>Because every time in the scripture when we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>thrones and kingship and positions, it talks about the person

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<v Speaker 2>who sits on the right hand side of the king

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<v Speaker 2>is the second most powerful person in the world. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why Jesus sits on the right hand side

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<v Speaker 2>of God the Father, which is, which is the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why James and John came to Jesus and said, let

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<v Speaker 2>me sit one on your right and one on your left.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the best positions in the Bible. Where you

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<v Speaker 2>sat was you know, it mattered, and so think about

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<v Speaker 2>about how awesome that phrase was. You know, for Saul

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<v Speaker 2>to be hunting David, very jealous, saying my regime doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>who by the way, was first in line, he was

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<v Speaker 2>the king, he says, no, no, my regime will support

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with my father. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you closer more than I do a brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will support you, and I will be at

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be afraid. Saul's never going to find you. My

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<v Speaker 2>Dad's never going to find you. God's with you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you there couldn't be a better support system

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<v Speaker 2>for David than Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Bible, says Solomon says in proverbs, a

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<v Speaker 1>man that has friends must first be friendly, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that David, in his whirlwind fame, he went

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<v Speaker 1>He becomes the commander of one of the main armies.

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<v Speaker 1>He's out fighting battles for Philistine's I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>he had the margin in his life to pursue a

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<v Speaker 1>really strong friendship. It's very clear in this entire thing

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<v Speaker 1>that Jonathan is the one that is saying Jonathan initiates

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship. Jonathan's one that keeps coming to David. David

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<v Speaker 1>David's out hiding somewhere. Jonathan keeps coming and finding him,

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<v Speaker 1>showing up when David needed the most, Right, Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's recorded. Yeah, so there's something about that that,

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<v Speaker 1>if they just had some friends, But what I see

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<v Speaker 1>is Jonathan is pursuing David's friendship. Jonathan's saying, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there when you need me. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>show up when you need me. I'm the one that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to make the promise to your family. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>one that's going to abdicate my my privileged positions so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can be elevated. I'm gonna put you first,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm willing to be second, right, Jonathan is. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the embodiment of Solomon's writing who Solomon is David's son, right,

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<v Speaker 1>saying a man that has friends must first be friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>He's choosing to make David his friend. That's what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't force friendships. Obviously, God bound their hearts together,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible says, right, So that's there. But David was not.

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<v Speaker 1>David didn't have the ability to come back into town

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<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, dude, you want to go out to dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go catch a movie, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>play some ball? Right, Instead, Jonathan comes out and finds

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<v Speaker 1>David in the cave. Jonathan comes out and finds David

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<v Speaker 1>Hyde in a valley that right, he comes looking for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's showing up when David needed him, and so instead

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<v Speaker 1>of wishing we had a friend, let's go be the friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's amazing you have a lot of friends when

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<v Speaker 1>you choose to be the friend, when you choose to

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<v Speaker 1>do what friends do rather than just waiting for a

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<v Speaker 1>friend to come to you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's a couple of sermons in here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the important thing is is that I

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<v Speaker 2>think the overall to me the messages, David has absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what's going to happen next, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>sort of already sort of covered the fact that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's around the corner for us. It's Monday

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bible, guys, we don't know how many days, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But and then and then we've also said we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about his support system with Jonathan. I think another thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's really important is is.

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<v Speaker 1>That God still gave.

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<v Speaker 2>David the promise that one day he would be king,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's not king yet, right, and so that that's

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<v Speaker 2>not in this chapter, but it's it's something that is

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<v Speaker 2>over David's life. David, as I think, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>there's evidence that shows his great faith and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that his great faith is anchored into the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he believes God has great things in store

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<v Speaker 2>for him when he is king. So that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have promises like that for us. Chances our

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<v Speaker 2>God didn't show up and send a prophet, so wh.

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<v Speaker 1>Annoyed you King with oil? But maybe not for you,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not well next to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But God has given us promises. Right God, we can

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<v Speaker 2>trust all of God's promises for our lives. And when

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<v Speaker 2>we when we go through a wilderness moment and we

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<v Speaker 2>have it, you know, we have a tendency to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>forget that God is going to be faithful. Just remember

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<v Speaker 2>God is.

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<v Speaker 1>Always going to be with you and He's going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Fulfill every promise. Hey, if God says be faithful and

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look like that's going to turn out, well,

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<v Speaker 2>just be faithful anyway because you don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen on Monday. Right, God is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>with you. Trust God's promises and in this case we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see that it works out great for David,

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, it serves as an example for us today.

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<v Speaker 2>David would have never known that his experience in the

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<v Speaker 2>wilderness would be talked about and we are so inspired,

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<v Speaker 2>and we look to it. Thousands of years later, his

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<v Speaker 2>misery served as an example for us to continue with

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<v Speaker 2>our pa.

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<v Speaker 1>God's allowing him to wait. God's building his character here.

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<v Speaker 1>God's allowing him to wait. And I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times waiting for people who know that they have

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity ahead of them, for gifted people, for people

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<v Speaker 1>who are just they see this thing and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to get started, and they want to get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be very, very difficult to wait. But it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>David's in his twenties now, maybe bumping up on thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be king for what forty five years

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<v Speaker 1>or some crazy thing, right, He's going to be king

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. I just was talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>young guy and I said, do you understand this opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>you're waiting for? Just wait? Just wait. If God gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a twenty five year ministry, that's already longer than

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<v Speaker 1>your whole life, your whole life, you can wait another

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<v Speaker 1>month or another year. If God is gonna say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some other character I want to build into you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's other experiences I want to Hey there. I just

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<v Speaker 1>was in a meeting of the day and somebody. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a very very very very delicate meeting could have

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<v Speaker 1>blown up six different ways. When we got done, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>hugging each other, shaking hands. The email afterwards was so positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything worked out great. So one of the young leaders

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<v Speaker 1>come to me and goes, Dude, that was like a masterclass.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have ruined that, And I said, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it before, right, Sometimes just experience will help guide you

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<v Speaker 1>through a dangerous mindfield. You can't get experience except with time.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to wait to get the experience right. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to lean into those things. And so sometimes God saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit more experience I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>have before I release you into this thing. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more information you need before I release you

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<v Speaker 1>into this thing. There's a little bit just wait, just

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<v Speaker 1>do what's next to go and take that next step,

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<v Speaker 1>Go down that next valley, hide in that next cave,

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<v Speaker 1>go lead your people, recruit your team, develop these relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to lead well, all those things, and then

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<v Speaker 1>God's gonna And then David had a much longer rain

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<v Speaker 1>than this little window of time. He's running from Saul, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's okay, right to wait and not force God's hand,

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<v Speaker 1>or try to force God's hand. I think if David

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<v Speaker 1>had forced it prior to this, I think things would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a mess. Instead, he steps into a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good segue for the cliffhanger for on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly where I was going. So yeah, that's great. O.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we'll pick up then and you'll have to tune

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<v Speaker 2>in to find out what happens next because that is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the topic of Monday's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thankstunities, thanks for tuning in on the Bible. Guys,