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      "body": "Coming to you from an undisclosed location somewhere deep in the heart of the Santa Monica Mountains. I am your Intrepid host, Elia Marzulli. Welcome. An old friend, I've known Tom for twenty, twenty five years, and he was hooked up with Russ Dizdar, sort of like Russ's right hand man. They did a lot of stuff together."
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      "body": "And I'll never forget the first time we met at a dinner and I walked in the room and there was Tom, we looked at each other, it was like, 'Sympatico!' you know, Anyway, folks, we'll bring him in in just a second. First, a word from our very trusted sponsor. We've all seen the headlines about Ozempic and similar miracle weight loss shots. But what most people don't realize is this, a major analysis just found out that people who stop taking these weight loss injections gain nearly all their weight back within a year. That's the catch."
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      "body": "We're thinking about doing some other conferences. Let us know if that works for you or what subjects you'd like us to tackle. Anyway, without any further ado, Tom Dunn, welcome. Thanks coming here."
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      "body": "Oh, hey man, it is so good to see you brother. I likewise. Just hit your message the other day and it's been a long time, you know, it's this kind of one of those things where, you know, you know, your brother's out there, he's doing work, you're doing work. Yeah. But when you get an act together, it's, you know, it's, we pick up right when we left off."
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      "body": "Yeah. And then he, you know, you said something before we started rolling cameras. It's five years this October, since Russ passed away. I, I find that really hard to believe."
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      "body": "I still can't get used to it. I still feel like I should be able to give him a call. Yeah. And, and just, you know, cut up with him and talk and hear his latest case and, and what he's been doing and, and just shared, but man, it's, I'm just still not used to him being gone, man. Yeah."
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      "body": "Nobody like him."
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      "body": "Yeah. He was really cut from a very unique piece of cloth. He loved the Lord so much with his whole heart, whole mind, body, soul, I mean, was completely sold out. And I can play some of the there's pictures I have in my, if I can go to my picture thing and it's like, when he would just walk in the room, our eyes would connect and we would both just start laughing. It's just like,"
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      "body": "you know, you know, wow. I've met so many people that found out about Russ after he passed away, you know? And then I'll meet, I'm working on a project down in Georgia. And, one of the people down there, they've been listening to Russ's teaching. And they asked me, what was it like to know Russ?"
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      "body": "And what, you know, and I'll tell them some things. I said, the thing about Russ is he was funny. He took serious stuff, but behind the scenes, he was funny and he liked to have fun. And I love this LA. I love being able to tell people that if Russ would've got to meet you, he would've loved you."
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      "body": "Yeah. Cause that's the way he was. He just treated everybody like a, like a best friend. And they're like, what was it like to know Russ? I'm like, man, Russ would've loved you."
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      "body": "You know, I'll never forget Russ and I are driving in Ohio. We're like going to these, these sites that he picked out and you know, I'm, I'm in the passenger seat, he's driving and he's got his cell phone up and, and he puts on, he puts on, guess it's Eddie Murphy, I forget the name of the Krumps, I think it is. And it's a scene where they're all going, 'Hercules, Hercules!' and we're laughing. I thought I was going to crash the car. You can see he's like, he's crying, he's laughing so hard."
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      "body": "I mean, and that was it. That was like the whole, you know, oh my gosh. I remember that. Yeah. Unbelievable."
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      "body": "Let's take more of a serious note, you know, Russ and I've watched him in action and helped out a few times, but that really wasn't my calling. I mean, if it was there, I would deal with it, but you know, Russ would spend hours just praying with people, talking with people after he spoke. And again, I mean, that opens itself up to me, I remember at the Steve Quell conference we had people come up, the line was out the door and it went on for hours. And I don't remember, you know, when I prayed, I just remember stuff was the Lord was there and stuff was being broken up. Talk about that because you know, you were drawn to Him instantly and you guys were, you know, very instrumental in healing people and delivering people from the bondage that they were in."
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      "body": "Talk about that, please."
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      "body": "Well, you know, I never planned on doing that. That was, I've met Russ and I had, I told him I wanna make a film about what you do. And he said, okay, okay, okay. You know, and then he just kind of took me under his wing. Yeah."
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      "body": "And, began to train me. I wasn't, I wasn't even trying to be trained, but he began teaching me and training me. And the first person I helped was myself. Wow. And I helped myself just kind of get free of some stuff that I had been struggling with."
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      "body": "And then, I, man, I'll never forget my first freedom encounter on my own. I was scared to death, man. And I was just like going over the notes and how do you do this? And I know how to do it on paper, but you know, how do I, how do I do this? But man, I saw, I watched Russ and he taught me, how to help people."
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      "body": "And once you learn how to do that, you can't just help, but be compelled to do that. I love it when I can spend forty five minutes with somebody on a zoom call or, on a, on a phone call and I help them, they get set free. Yeah. They're carrying a burden. They have oppression."
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      "body": "I just talked to a guy the other day and he was being oppressed and bad dreams and all this stuff. And I said, man, I'm so glad to talk to you. I know how to help you, man. And, so we talked, we prayed, I led him in a prayer and then 99% of the time we send them for homework to take Russ's courses. They're all available on my website."
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      "body": "Well, not all of them, but a lot of them are available on my website. And we tell people, take the course confronting the powers. You're going to come out of that course with so much confidence, and you're going to be well just to train and to see exactly what's going on. So anyway, yeah, it's, I'll tell you what, even though Russ has been gone five years this October, his legacy lives on and his training lives on because I work with people that use his training on a regular basis. I have a guy that does ministry with me and, starting in January, we started doing four every week, every Wednesday, we would do four freedom encounters and he just got hands on training right there, you know, the same way Russ did."
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      "body": "And yeah, so people are still using his training and it, you know, it's just, it's just the simplest thing, repentance, which is what we're all called to do, you know, repent. Did you sin? You opened a door. Okay. We we've all done that."
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      "body": "So close that door, you know? And then in other cases, some people have opened a door for you. If there's, you know, if something is happening to a child when they're young, they didn't ask for it, but we teach them how to close that door."
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      "body": "You know, and then folks, just so you know, I've, I've had open doors in my life. I mean, I was with a guru for three years. My third eye was open. I mean, I did every drug he could possibly think of. I was at Woodstock and unlike our president, I inhaled."
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      "body": "It's not just possible. And you have to do the work and forgiveness is always a key, repentance and forgiveness. And all of a sudden, there's nothing I can do, but the Holy Spirit comes in and all of a sudden the oppression's gone. I don't know how that works except the grace of God. Talk about that, please."
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      "body": "I mean, you can walk through this world, you go to the grocery store, you see people that are hurting. You can get, you can see it. Right. And, you know, it's, it's the only thing that works. Okay."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
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      "body": "Buddha doesn't work. Mohammed doesn't work. Okay. Tom cruise doesn't work. Okay."
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      "body": "They can't help you. No, they can't. Okay. We're talking about reconciling to God. Okay."
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      "body": "And, when we sin that opens up a door to the enemy. Okay. And the Bible teaches us this, do not let the sun go down in your anger and give the devil a foothold. In your anger, don't sin. You're allowed to be angry."
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      "body": "It's not a sin to be angry, but when our emotions are high, we do things that we would normally do. And, sin is disobedience to God. And when you do that, one of the ways I explain it is like, puts a, it takes a tool and puts it in the devil's pocket and he can use that tool against you later. But when you repent of that sin, you close that door and it takes the tool out of the devil's pocket. So, yeah, I mean, it's just that simple."
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      "body": "It's, you know, it can be generational stump. Yeah. So we teach people like, did your maybe your grandfather opened up a door, right? We say, you know what? We'll lead them in a prayer."
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      "body": "Lord Jesus, this family line belongs to you now. I plead the blood over my family line. I repent of the sins of my grandfather. I renounce it out of the family line and I cast out all demonic presents, I belong to you now. This family belongs to you."
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      "body": "Amen. You know, had to do that with my grandfather, who was a thirty second degree Mason. He was the master of his lodge. And of a sudden, all this stuff came up. He bequeathed me his ring."
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      "body": "I told this story before. I'll make it real quick. So when he died, it was in the will. I got his ring and I started where I took my wedding ring off mistake number one and slipped his ring on. And then his name was Olindo Marzulli."
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      "body": "Okay, Olindo Marzulli. I started signing my name Olindo Marzulli and I'm already a Christian at this point, right? And this goes back about twenty years ago. And all of a sudden, you know, I started to realize, wait a minute, wait a minute. And I started looking at the Masonic tie and how to break those ties."
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      "body": "And my Lord gave me like a dream, like a vision type deal. He said, go out, get up early in the morning, take the ring off your finger, go out in the desert, dig a hole and bury it. In other words, don't cash it in for money. No, no, no, no, no. Go out in the desert, dig a hole, bury the ring, pray over it."
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      "body": "And then I came back and there was this whole litany to break the Masonic line generationally. And I was living it, I was experiencing it. And I'll never forget this, One of the actual prayers that you said that repeated from this, I guess online or whatever you want to call it, whole little booklet, you know, about maybe two, three or four pages was it talked about removing the wedding ring and putting a Masonic ring on exactly that. And I just went, Oh my gosh, that's what I just came back from. So all this stuff is real."
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      "body": "The generational stuff is real. My other grandfather used to be really angry. I'm kind of airing my dirty laundry here, Fuss, but you know what, you've got dirty laundry and I'm being open because all of us are broken, all of us are fragmented, and the whole point of having the Spirit of Living God is to make us whole. That's what He wants to do. So just recently, Lord gives me usually a word sometime in December to work on the rest of the year, And I never know what the word means."
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      "body": "Year, the word was apoplectic. Do you know what the word apoplectic means, Tom?"
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      "body": "No, you asked me too quick."
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      "body": "Don't know what it means either. So I look it up and it means anger, rage, uncontrollable anger. That's my grandfather. And I heard this from my aunts and uncles. He used to get so angry his face would turn beet red."
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      "body": "And I renounced that. I broke it off my family law and I said, don't want this. I don't want this. And it all came from this one incident. I won't go into the details, but anger rolled up in me."
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      "body": "And after it was all over, I said, Where's this from? And then the Lord gave me the answer. So, to walk us through the idea of when the Holy Spirit shows something in us, like my own anger at 75 years old, thank you very much, how do we break that? How do we repent and break it?"
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      "body": "Yeah, you know, and I like what you said there, we're airing our dirty laundry. You know what? We boast in our weakness, right? We give him all the glory. All right."
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      "body": "Glory. Be some. Yeah. He's the rock cutter. Yeah."
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      "body": "John the Baptist said I must decrease so that he can increase. Right. You know, you can, you could talk about anger, you can talk about Masonic oaths and things like this, something that's come into our life and DNA is a powerful thing, right? So we can even recognize, physical traits or physical things that come that we inherit. And, the blood of Christ and the power of God and repentance can help us fight against all those things."
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      "body": "And we don't have to be like, you know, whatever our, you know, parents or grandparents, we don't have to do that. You know, we can take the good and get rid of the bad. We can overcome that no matter what it is. But if a door is opened by somebody else or by you, we gotta close that door. Okay."
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      "body": "And it's sin, you know, and sin opens the door, repentance closes the door. Okay. It could be anything, you know, one of the things that men struggle with is lust. Okay. And we can open a door through that by looking at something that we shouldn't look at or have a thought that we shouldn't happen."
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      "body": "And we entertain that. Right. So then we got to go and repent of it. Lord, you know, I repent of this sin. I repent of this thought."
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      "body": "Okay. And I renounce it out of my life. Renunciation means I don't want anything else to do with it. Okay. I am departing."
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      "body": "We're getting a divorce and I'm going this bad. It's going that way. Okay. So, and you're making that you're repenting, asking for forgiveness, and then you're saying, I don't want anything else to do with that in my life. Right?"
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      "body": "So, well, said than done, but it's an important part of the process where we are separating from that. And we proclaim the truth. Some people struggle with negative thoughts, anxiety. I remember I'll tell you this story real quick. I was at work one day and I started getting anxiety where I thought I was going have a panic attack."
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      "body": "And I was concerned about my kids because they were going on a trip and I prayed about it and nothing happened. And I prayed about it and nothing happened. And I prayed about it and nothing happened. And I prayed about it and I got a breakthrough. And, you know, because it was a fight that had a grip on me."
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      "body": "Yeah."
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      "body": "And, I'm glad I didn't give up on the prayer, but I got set free from that. And I tell you what, God, you know, second Corinthians, ten, four, the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations. Our weapons through God can help us cast down imaginations. I was making things up to worry about. Yeah."
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      "body": "Okay. And, just, you know, demolishing strongholds, taking every thought, making it captive, to Christ, right? Making it obedient to Christ. So I said, Lord, I want to make my thoughts obedient to you. This is not me."
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      "body": "This is coming from the outside. Maybe it does come from the flesh sometimes, because sometimes the devil doesn't need any help, right? We could do it without him. So whatever it is, if it's from the world, the flesh, the devil, God gave us power over all those things."
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      "body": "Amen. You know, one of the arrows in my quiver is when a thought comes up and you know, the chatter. And I remember my first mentor, Wayne Kendall. I've been talking about Wayne a lot lately. He's been dead for twenty years, something like that."
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      "body": "I dedicated the Cosmic Chess match to Wayne. He was my first mentor. And Wayne, I remember, and I'll my horrible imitation of Wayne, but you got Marzilli, the Fox are from three places, either you, the devil, or the Lord. And I'm a brand new Christian, I mean, I'm like three days old in this, and I'm going like, what? You know, somebody can enter my mind?"
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      "body": "What? And I realized that this is exactly what's going on. One of the tools I learned, like there was a little track I found at the market that's another discussion and in that little track it talked about saying this: I am dead to you and you are dead to me. So what I've learned over the forty five years, when I have a thought that comes in that's tantalizing, it's looking, and I know this isn't coming for me and it's certainly not the Holy Spirit, I will say either out loud or mentally, I am dead to you and you are dead to me. The blood of Jesus."
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      "body": "You know, when I put on the armor of God, and this is really a cool show because we're, know, mano a mano, we're kind of giving people an inside look as to who we are and the way we fight. When I put on the armor of God and I do that daily, but sometimes two or three times a day, I put on the helmet of salvation. And then I say, I take that and put on the helmet of salvation. The blood of Jesus, who was lamb of God who tasted whoever sins of the world is on the doorposts and the threshold and mellentils of my mind. Nothing comes through here unchecked."
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      "body": "It's under the blood. And I say that every day and then put on the rest of the armor, you know, press plate of righteousness, Jehovah's tikkunu. I mean, it's my own, like, little and I've incorporated different things, you know, in the armor. I just meant But I just love that because, you know, look, every day it's like we get reset with the Word of God or we reset the computer. We renew our mind through the Bible, through the Word."
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      "body": "But it's a fight, it's ongoing and it's so easy to get I'll just give you one more deal. So I'm on this website. What is it called? It's not Breitbart, but it's one of those. And I'm on this website and to the right of me is a very scantily clad woman and like a silk nighty."
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      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1314.86",
      "endTime": "1326.86",
      "body": "She's very beautiful. She's probably, you know, late twenties. And I, and I, I looked at it and went, oh boy. So every time I go on that site, I, I do one of two things. Oh, you're such a prude."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1326.86",
      "endTime": "1338.0751",
      "body": "You bet. Cause I have a covenant with my wife and it's so easy to slip from that covenant. So easy. I mean, that's soft porn in the fifties is really what it is. It's soft porn."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1338.0751",
      "endTime": "1346.05",
      "body": "That was pornography in the fifties. Right. So, you know, you have to be careful with the eye gate. I don't want this. So I don't look, I don't look to the right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1346.05",
      "endTime": "1350.0499",
      "body": "I just scroll down or enlarge the window and move the whole thing off the screen."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1350.85",
      "endTime": "1378.1399",
      "body": "Well, the Bible gives us all kinds of great tools on how to combat this, you know, read in, excuse me, Proverbs, sorry, forgot what, Proverbs chapter four and five, it warns us do not go near the door of her house. Yeah. And just something we were doing there. Above all else, guard your heart for is the Wellspring of life. You know, we have to be careful what we put in front of our eyes."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1378.5399",
      "endTime": "1398.095",
      "body": "So, and, I'll tell you the thing that for me, like twenty years ago, I was reading the Bible and I'm like, well, you know, thinking to myself, like how much could I get away with? You know, what was, I think in Ephesians, not even a hint, not even a hint of sexual immorality. Yeah. So, I'm like, okay, well it lays it out there. Right."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1398.4",
      "endTime": "1410.72",
      "body": "So, and, beer, it's not that God wants to destroy our fun or our pleasure. You say He designed it and He has, the best design, you know, for us."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1411.52",
      "endTime": "1427.385",
      "body": "No, amen to that. You know, flee youthful lusts, right? Paul talking, and that's what we need to do. I mean, is wonderful and you know, the whole sexual union between a man and woman in marriage, what a mystery. I mean, we have two children"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1427.62",
      "endTime": "1430.0999",
      "body": "and I mean, I'm like, God, it was a good."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1430.34",
      "endTime": "1453.365",
      "body": "It's just amazing. Let's, let's circle back, to, to your ministry. Russ passes away. And I remember Shelley called me it was this, we had her on speaker and I started laughing when I see it's Shelley, I said, Now what? Because Peggy and Shelley were filming Louise."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1453.6799",
      "endTime": "1477.095",
      "body": "When those two got together, it's like, and Russ and I used to laugh about it with some, so I'm figuring I go, no, now what? And she just, she just goes and she says, Russ is dead. And I just, I just broke down and started crying and I couldn't even believe it. So, you know, you picked up his mantle. I even told you that last time I saw you and you were speaking at a conference."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1477.0951",
      "endTime": "1499.03",
      "body": "I think it was the Go Therefore Conference. And I just said, you know, his mantle's all over you. So, you know, here you are, you're on your own, but you've matured and I think you've picked up his mantle and you know, you're walking in places that most men, you know, shy most of the church shies away from. Speak to that."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1499.645",
      "endTime": "1515.82",
      "body": "Well, you know what? I don't think everybody's called to this. No, agree. Somebody's got to do it. I sure did sign up for it, But it's just a ministry of love."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1515.9801",
      "endTime": "1532.275",
      "body": "Just like you would give somebody a sandwich because they were hungry. You want to see somebody set free. And it's just a ministry of compassion, really. I feel like the church is a little bit too spooked out by it. We shouldn't be, okay?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1532.275",
      "endTime": "1550.6599",
      "body": "Because it's all over the Bible and it's what Jesus did and it's what Paul did. That's what we were taught to do. And the enemy is winning when he causes us to fear, right? Hollywood makes millions of dollars making movies on this subject, okay? On demonic possession and craziness and stuff like this."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1550.74",
      "endTime": "1561.755",
      "body": "And you don't even gotta watch the movies, you just see the trailers and you think you know the truth. No, when a Christian shows up. Okay. And somebody is demonized. It's a short movie."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1561.915",
      "endTime": "1583.25",
      "body": "Okay. It's, you know, we use the authority of Christ. It's that uninvited demonic presence and cast it out. And then we leave that person if they want, they gotta want it, you know, and, you know, through a prayer of renunciation of repentance. And the church is afraid because the seminaries don't teach about it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1583.25",
      "endTime": "1594.895",
      "body": "Right. And the pastors don't know how to deal with it. So we're, you know what? We're powerless, we're clueless and we're way behind and it shouldn't be that way. Grew up."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1594.895",
      "endTime": "1608.7499",
      "body": "Let's call it the subpar church. And I don't want to be a part of the subpar church. Okay. I want to be cutting edge. I want to, I want all the giftings that God has, pay down what the sermon that I whatever He has."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1609.15",
      "endTime": "1612.27",
      "body": "And, and I want to be the cutting edge church."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1613.1951",
      "endTime": "1626.89",
      "body": "Well, Tom, I'm going to wrap it up here. Thank you so much for coming on. You're working on a film and when that film comes out, we will get Tom back on. What do you think you'll have that done? Any idea?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1626.89",
      "endTime": "1641.825",
      "body": "It should be ready for distribution in April as Vocabolping, but I'm working on multiple films. Wow. And we're talking about putting three out this year and then we're lining up next year already. Congrats. Yeah."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1642.625",
      "endTime": "1650.7849",
      "body": "And I can't wait to share this stuff with you, LA. It's we're backed up and we're working hard and this is gonna blow people's minds. Wow."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1651.825",
      "endTime": "1653.745",
      "body": "Do, how do, how do folks get ahold of you, Tom?"
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1654.5599",
      "endTime": "1672.9451",
      "body": "Throughtheblack.com is the best place. That's my website. That's where you can find all of Russ's teachings. That's where you can find all of our archives. And if you go, if you find us on YouTube, which there'll be a link there, on that website, throughtheblack.com, you can see our latest, our most current videos."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1672.9451",
      "endTime": "1679.345",
      "body": "We do have a YouTube channel and we talk about whatever. So spiritual warfare and stuff is what we say."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1679.345",
      "endTime": "1690.88",
      "body": "Because spiritual warfare is real. We are surrounded by, you know, the fallen ones. He's, he knows his time is short. He wants to take as many people. He's collecting the souls of men."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1690.88",
      "endTime": "1700.785",
      "body": "Don't let him get your soul. How did it change that? Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and that God raised him from the dead and you shall be saved. That's it. That's it."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1700.785",
      "endTime": "1713.1",
      "body": "That's all you need to do. So if you're sitting here and you're watching this and you're oppressed, go to throughtheblack.com, shoot me an email, go before the Lord. You've got the power in yourself. Lord, take this from me. Take this from me."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1713.1",
      "endTime": "1723.9",
      "body": "Give me a new life. And you just say with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Tom Dobb, thank you so much for coming on the road."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 2",
      "startTime": "1723.9",
      "endTime": "1725.1",
      "body": "Hey, man. It's so good to see you."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1725.1",
      "endTime": "1734.5231",
      "body": "Yeah, great to see you, my friend. God bless you. That's it for today, folks. We'll be back again tomorrow. Don't wait for you to be telling you we're here every single day with a show."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1734.5231",
      "endTime": "1743.243",
      "body": "God bless you. Invite Him into your life. I did it forty six years ago. My life has never been the same and never will be. God bless you all."
    },
    {
      "speaker": "Speaker 1",
      "startTime": "1743.243",
      "endTime": "1743.963",
      "body": "We'll see you tomorrow."
    }
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}