being a musician and singer, I have great admiration
for people like a mechanic.
Is that a carpenter? No.
If I were a carpenter and you were a lady,
I'd marry you anyway.
Right.
I'll tell you sometimes some of the best conversations are when we're off.
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And you?
I'm Joyce Logan, and I'm going to tell you what I'm grateful for.
Yeah. What are you grateful for today, Joyce?
You're going to be grateful for it.
I'm grateful that I got a tax return.
And I love my CPA Dave to Dave.
Dave.
That sounds like a really hip hop name Dave the bass Dave the bass.
Like Sir mix a lot. Right. Right right.
Yeah.
Database is, you know, Patti and I, Richard Deuce, thanks to you to him.
And he's also helping us out as well.
You kind of like our, our official account, isn't he?
When you say he's mine.
Well, he's big o, you know, and he's be is becoming ours as well. Yes.
I want to do a show that's not even a Dave Dave bass.
We do, we do. That's what's good today.
And of course, we have our moonshots. Coffee.
You know, I had my moonshots coffee a little bit earlier,
and we'd like to thank him and all of our sponsors.
We're so grateful for, but very grateful for this gentleman who's in the studio,
talking about overcoming adversity and challenges
and battling, you know, demons, addictions, and let's face everything.
And the thing is, every one of us has an addiction to something, right?
And, you know, my addiction is peanut butter, but this is.
But, you know, whatever it may be, but it all comes from the same place.
But to be more serious about this.
I really admire this man in so many ways.
Such a talented singer, great musician with a band called The Mediums
and they're awesome.
Does the best version of I Put a Spell on You I've ever heard, ever heard.
But Joyce, you won't have the honor of introducing this amazing man.
Well, you know, I'm going to
touch upon this because the whole show is not going to be about this.
Yeah, but,
Wait, did you say Frank Annunciato.
So how did you meet Frank?
I know his brother Sal. To who?
Who's just a phenomenal human being as well.
But we kind of met through, you know, Facebook, Instagram, reputation.
Actually, I don't remember this, but I was a common ground.
We met, we were over it.
I was by the creamer area.
I swear to you.
Wow. You were like, good morning and open up.
But, you know, we were like, oh, we have a blessed day.
And I'm like, this dude, he got something going on.
And I did a little research and I think I might have text you or said
something about your show or something like that, and we just clicked.
Yeah, we did, we did, and we met and we had coffee at moonshots after that.
And this story, you actually felt this energy?
Absolutely.
I did as I did back in 83.
Joy Joyce. Wow.
Uncle John is a power of positivity. You could feel it. Yeah.
He has sunshine and above,
like, message in a bottle of the police.
Right. Okay. Yeah.
All right.
But, when I, when John told me you work, you were coming on,
and I thought, oh, I know that name.
So my father had a gas station at Fairhaven
and Ferry Street.
Yeah.
And I remember stories.
I just remember Mitch Reynolds.
Mitch Reynolds. Yeah.
And that he was, a snazzy dresser and
and and I could hear, like, my parents saying he looked like Edward G.
Robinson.
Is it 100% right?
So he was well known.
And then my sister said to me recently,
she said, I'm going to send you some articles.
It was like this.
These articles that were like five, you know, like sections of it.
And yeah.
And it was and she wrote, I never knew
we were like at the hub of the mom, though.
Wow. Did not know that.
Yeah.
But they said, well, you know, so or not, your grandfather, that was my grandma.
And you grew up with that? Yeah.
You didn't even know that wasn't.
No. Say normal.
Well, yeah.
You know, because you grew up in it.
You sound like it was.
No, that's one thing we knew, you know, but,
looking back on it, you know, obviously.
Was it normal?
You know, but it was classic, you know, pretty much classic.
Like, you see, a movie was The Sopranos was a Goodfellas and was exactly that.
You know, you growing up, you see all, you know, follow mobsters around.
Or on Sundays, there's 50 people at your grandmother's
house, see meatballs and, and, you know.
Yeah, a lot of that, a lot of that.
But, you know, I got I want to put this out there because this is important.
You know,
that whole lifestyle Sopranos godfather,
you know, like, people were enthralled with that stuff.
But if I'm being honest, it kind of ruined our lives.
You know, I mean,
it's it's it's hard to like, you know.
Yeah.
People like old school like my grandfather pretty much where,
you know, you, you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
Yeah.
You know, it's honor, it's loyalty.
And that's what they chose.
So they don't have a problem with it.
You know, if if you come up missing, they're pretty much at peace with it.
But the family suffers. Yeah.
My father died at 40.
Oh. From alcoholism. Drug addiction. Yeah.
You know, is it just a very tough way of growing up?
You know, but that, you know, people are kind of, like,
enthralled with that whole thing where, like, you know, the bankroll.
I mean, sure.
Well, look at John Gotti.
I mean, he was revered in his community.
People. People loved the guy in his community.
And you're and you watch a lot of these movies, too.
And there's an honor. There's a code.
It's like honor among thieves.
And it's true.
And, you know, listen,
I was talking to someone two days ago about it, and it's crazy.
Is that lifestyle is, I have to say, the truth that, you know,
there's there's not many people around like that anymore.
At least not around New Haven. Very few.
But you know, those guys, that's what they lived for.
It was about honor, loyalty.
And no matter what,
you know, you they're okay doing the crime, and they're okay
with doing the time and whatever that consists of, even if it means death.
That's what they take an honor for the oath.
Well, you know, like,
not many people around
today are going to say like, okay, I'm going to go do 20 years in jail.
Yeah. You know, I'm not.
But they were doing, doing a lot of salacious things as they know,
but they still had a certain honor you know in their community.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah absolutely. Yeah.
You know that's the other thing too,
I mean because guys like that my grandfather,
if you go to the old schoolers in like Fair Haven and stuff, you know,
he would give people jobs, you know, hand out money
if someone was hurt and, you know, so that part of it is nice.
But the other part of it is yes.
You know, and our family suffered from mom.
And then your grandfather went missing.
We met in 1979.
Disappeared just like you. Yes.
You felt that he might have known.
He was like oh, there's no that there's no doubt because he was drinking.
I read that, yeah, he was that.
He was talking too much, I think.
Yeah, he was. Yeah.
He was just, you know, he was a he was an alcoholic.
Yeah.
You know, and and, pardon me.
Feels real bad for him, honestly. Yeah.
Just a, you know, just really, really sad life even growing up and everything else.
So even my dad, my dad was 40 when he died, so, same thing.
But, you know, it's just it's a it's a really tough lifestyle.
And, I think that.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think it it got to a point where, you know,
he was just getting sloppy.
Yeah.
And after that when it was you know, it was and I think your grandmother too,
because I think back in the day you accepted what your husband was doing.
Honestly my grandmother was, was a saint and she was a classic.
My boys, no matter what he did, she stood by him.
She was.
Yeah. And my mom too.
Yeah, my mom too. And you know,
it's I think that's part of it.
You know, I don't want to make this all about mom today, but.
Yeah, but no, but my I think the positive message is, is that,
you know, that happened,
but most people from that family and, you know, when,
when you grow up in a family like that, the old classic mobsters,
they see the three grandsons and they think, oh my God, they had lotto.
They'll carry on the name,
you know, me and my brothers got completely away from that.
And that's a success.
That's a that's a victory.
Now tell us about that, Frankie.
That's great because you've had this adversity.
You've had this family situation.
You said that really destroyed the family in many ways.
But there is a silver lining.
You've been able to overcome a lot and you've had your personal demons big time.
Yeah. I'm recovering heroin addict.
And I started very young, partying, drinking and drug and cocaine in the 80s.
I was a maniac.
And then it got to a point where I got addicted to pain pills.
And then here, when, you know, I don't know how much.
I don't know a lot about too many things, but music and drug addiction,
I know a lot about.
And, you know,
if you were to ask any heroin addict or someone who was addicted to opiates,
I would
bet that 80% of them started out with pain pills and operation.
Yeah. You know, something like that.
I believe that, you know, I have a giant
generational addiction that runs in our family.
So, you know, I believe it's a disease I believe is just passed on to you.
But when I had an operation, I, I got Percocet
and pain pills, and it was from there, we just forget it.
It was a nightmare.
But that's how I started.
And eventually I went to here
and, you know, I don't know if you know how much you know
about drug addiction, but the relapse rate for here in Texas, 90%. 90%.
Yeah.
Usually, like, you know, right after they get out, it's 90%.
I think staying clean I think is like 70.
How many of those friends of yours are no longer with us?
I literally dozens and dozens of obituaries.
You know, the guys who so sad, you know, do it.
And, you know, it's such a it's just it is a tender thing
because, I my big thing is service.
I, I stay clean, not.
I believe in a higher power, which I choose to call God.
But besides that, I believe the only way of, of of keeping
is giving up, giving it away.
So my big thing is service.
And, you know, it's heartbreaking, what I see on a daily,
I just be refreshed in a month and a half ago.
And I went to a meeting with them day before,
so it's it's a really tough thing.
I what I try to tell people because it gets really, really touchy.
I don't know if you know anything about Alcoholics Anonymous.
I sure do, but when you go into Alcoholics Anonymous, you know,
you choose to, you know, your goal is to find some type of higher power.
You know, it doesn't have to be mine.
It when you're starting off, it doesn't.
That's the big message, honestly, that I want to tell for some reason today.
Because as much as I believe in what I believe in and boy,
do I believe in what I do. Amen.
But when you first come out of a detox or a rehab or whatever,
the concept kind of is puzzling to people.
So, you know,
if you know anything about the 12 step in 2012 steps and 12 traditions,
it says you choose a higher power, whatever that is.
It could be
God group of drunks.
It could be, wow, I never heard that acronym before.
God group of drunks.
It could be, you know, and then most of the time they'll find.
Right? Yeah.
I think the big thing is, as much as I believe in what I believe in,
and there is no questioning what I believe in, let me just put that out there.
It's important.
That's a very important thing, because a lot of newcomers get afraid
when they hear the God thing.
If feel like God is going to be so judgmental and and keeping the record and
and that's the other thing, you know, like a lot I hear a lot of people say,
you know, when they come in, you know,
I was raised with that punishing God, you know, you know, the Old Testament God.
Right? Of of what?
You know, to me, to me, God is love, right?
What happens if someone comes in and they're an atheist?
They just don't believe in anything, but.
So they can still find something great?
Absolutely, absolutely.
Whatever works.
Yeah. Whatever works. You know what I mean?
There's a classic story I heard, whether it's true or not,
I don't know, but, there was a girl named.
I wonder what it is.
I'm not hundreds, but dozens of rehabs in detox as well.
It took me a long time to get clean time,
like 12 years in and out, in a long time to get clean time.
A month, two months.
Yeah, a year, you know, and a lot of that and a lot of setbacks.
Lot of setbacks.
You know, the big thing about alcohol and drugs is,
you know, you get a couple weeks clean or whatever.
And then all of a sudden, you know,
I used to think, oh my God, what am I going to do? Drugs.
What could go wrong? Well life happens.
Yes, yes, yes, marriage, your children, your finances.
You know, it gets rough and
a lot of people get really, really nervous and they're like, I can't take it.
And they go, they retreat.
They retreat back.
Yeah.
But, you know, yes,
you could find whatever it is, you know, whatever it is, you know, group of drunks.
That.
Anyway, I going to say, yeah, there's a classic story of a woman who, was in,
a rehab, and there was a life coach there, and,
they were talking about a higher power, and this woman was like, I,
I don't want to hear anything about a higher power.
And she says, I'm going to make my.
Say, you know.
Yeah, I don't want no part of this. Yeah. Right.
Right. And then,
she decided to use and she went down the ghetto,
and she went down to cover,
the drug dealer and, you know, showing that.
Showing me that God does have a sense of humor.
You know, that's just what I'm saying is, you're absolutely right.
It does not have to be my God.
And and as much as my faith is solid as ever,
I think that's really important for people to come into the rooms.
I really do.
They'll find what they need to for sure.
What I believe in or you believe in. Yeah.
You know, and honestly, I hope he doesn't mind me saying this.
My brother Sal, he has, I think 38 years come and good for him.
He takes something from Jesus, something from Buddha,
something, you know, he combines everything, right?
That works for him.
It works for him. And I respect that.
He works for him as a wonderful priest that we love.
Father, in the dark night, when I had in one of my books,
I had quotes from Buddha and.
Yeah. And I asked him, I said, you have a problem with that?
And he says, why would I?
Yeah, Buddha.
That's right, that's that's right.
You know, like it.
You know, drug addiction, alcoholism is, you know, the end result is death.
They say three things jails, institution and death.
You know, I've been in both.
The only thing left for me was death.
So, you know, like, this is serious.
This is life and death.
If you believe in that window blinding to make your higher power
to get you started. Right.
My big thing is I'm not really one of those people who got it to kind of
like pushes things and people don't want to be pushed
because they'll just, you know, they'll go into a cocoon. Yes, yes.
So I believe in you know, I just tell a lot of people, man, you need
you can't stay clean and sober, you know, shut the blinds and, you know,
shake it all day.
Yeah. Get out.
Move a muscle right before you got addicted.
Yeah. You know, stuff like that. You can't wallow in self-pity.
No, not only that, but you're going to find your own journey.
Their journeys and my journey.
That's right.
My brother Sal and me.
My journey is completely different.
But my brother Sal went away.
He went away for two weeks, and I would, if I was a millionaire, I would bet
$1 million he wouldn't stay clean for one day.
Never went back out.
Wow, eight years I did. Yes.
Yeah, me. It took me.
Yeah. Thousands and thousands of detoxes.
I mean, everybody who I knew said this kid's going to die.
Yeah.
You know, I was a I have no problem saying I was a stone cold junkie here
when I was shooting dope on my feet. I was a maniac.
And now look at you. You're here. You're serving others.
There's a joy to you.
You're out there entertaining with your with the mediums and, you know,
just adding so much value to everybody you meet.
Always sing.
Did you know I did?
My brother Sal was my mentor, my hero.
He, He he he plays guitar.
When we were young, we used to harmonize Simon and Garfunkel.
Oh, yeah, a giant Beatles fan.
So, we would, do Beatles and,
and I started, got my first little garage band at 15.
I was playing bars at 16.
Wow. So it's been a long journey, but it's my passion, you know, now
and where I'm at.
And I'm really a piece of where I'm at when I go play a gig.
It's, like, therapeutic for me. Wow.
You know, I just wanted to say, because I know some people who will say,
you can just give up drinking.
You could just.
You could just do that.
And I always said it's a disease.
Some people say, no, it's not. It's a choice.
But I heard a doctor say this, that think of it as taking
a whole box of ex-lax and then being told, you can't go to the bathroom.
And that's what it feels like to a lot of people who are gifted
where they need that.
Yeah they have to.
Your body is crying out for it. Yeah.
So with your singing and focusing on
that does that shift it.
Yeah.
You know something really special happened with this with this medium's thing.
You know, when I first got,
when I first got clean, the partner that I have now has been for 25 years,
3 or 4000 shows.
I just want to get back into music.
What a really special thing happened, you know, just by
honestly, just by willing it and keeping on playing and playing and playing,
we started getting this popularity, and now we have a family of people
that follow us and they become family.
So when I and also we're good, we are really good.
And when I see people come to see us and I see the joy they,
you know, some people playing their calendars around us,
you know, some people say, oh my God, since we met you, we never went out.
And there these are people in their 50s, 60s.
They say we played our whole, you know, like, wow, what a compliment,
what a compliment.
And, you know, they get through, you know, it's a tough world out there.
They get three hours of escapism and you need it, you know.
So that's a really special thing happened.
But for me it's therapeutic now.
I mean this is but I got to be honest, it took a very long time.
Like the guy you see here
is not the guy you're what it's all like even 15, 20 years ago,
you know, and and if there's any message I want to, I want to bring to anybody
who is struggling with addiction or anything is that
if you don't, if you don't quit.
And everybody say to me, when I was in and out,
you always quit before the miracle happens. Yes.
It was so true.
So yeah, how many people are there on the fringe of something
and they just quit and other almost.
They're at the finish line.
And I'm going to tell you another thing, Joyce, what you said
I was for years very uncomfortable with being clean.
Like I would get a month or two.
And I remember during that month or two I would get a new job or something,
and I could remember being in my car crying, going,
I feel like a fish out of water.
I don't feel right.
And eventually I would go use because I couldn't take it.
Yeah, yeah, if you could just hang in there
and do what you gotta do, whatever it is, whether it's meetings,
whether it's church, whether it's finding God and finding your higher
power group of drunks, you know, whatever.
And you could just get through that terrible, terrible
feeling of like, you know, and your mind telling you you're not worthy.
Yeah, of course I'll never do it.
I'll die all that. You know, you always talk about positivity.
And it's so important. So.
Oh, 75% of what people think, especially first thing in the morning, is negative.
So we have to fight that all the time.
I get it, I get here.
So might I share something with you? And this is true.
You know, there's some people
who get clean and it you know, there's maybe they're easier.
Up until literally two weeks ago.
And I've been coming around for decades.
Every morning when I wake up.
What you just said, it's very dark for me.
But here's a beautiful thing.
The beautiful thing is, is I know what I need to do.
And for me, not for anybody else.
For me I get on my knees, I get my Bible, get my devotionals I get my prayers.
Yeah I ask God for you know, his will not mine.
All that.
But I'm glad you brought that up because it's been a long time
that I've been coming around and that's still happening.
Funny thing happened about two weeks ago.
I woke up and I had didn't have that darkness.
Wow. What a healing. Maybe.
Maybe that was God saying, I need you put through that
so you can get to the other side of, you know, whatever it was. I'm not.
Yeah, but I prayed stays.
And if it doesn't, I know that I have the tools and I know what to do.
Yeah.
So I think the message there is is that you listen, if you're
if you're trying this and you're trying to stay clean or whatever,
if it's going to be tough, but if you hang in there, the miracle will happen.
There's no doubt about you know, everything in life is a test.
Y'all know the test of faith.
No doubt.
I really I have gone through one of the roughest years I've ever had
this past year. Absolutely, absolutely.
Some personal stuff that went on, some health stuff that went on.
But the thing I won't do is given never, never.
And I know that just like there's a darkness,
whatever's in darkness comes to light, you know?
So it's okay. Right?
The other thing is, is it's probably the biggest year for my growth
as far as humans.
Because every day.
Yeah. So you know, it's it's okay.
Well well you growth comes from adversity no doubt.
Right. Overcoming obstacles.
Obstacles are opportunities no doubt I mean and I'm sure you heard,
you know, trees grow in the valley. Yes.
You know, so, for me, it's as much as there's pain and misery crying.
Whatever it is, I've never felt more growth in my life. Wow.
It's a really, really great thing.
I just really have such a burden in my heart for what's going on.
This will be an endemic.
Yes. And and, you know, friends are dying and it's so, so sad.
Yeah. So sad.
I'm really looking into maybe become a life coach and, Oh that's right.
Oh, gosh.
Yeah.
Joyce does a lot to help a lot of people as well.
I know that you've been able to help so many people over the years
in your practice, because I was, a little confused about the,
the name, the group name, and maybe others wouldn't.
When you say, or group of trunks, is that an actual organization? No.
In other words, what I'm saying is it's like,
you know, people do a lot of meetings.
So that group of, oh, drug addicts group of, oh, I see anything, you know.
Right. God. Just God.
Right.
So, you know, a lot of people use, the find that
they use meetings as their higher power, just a positive right to be with drugs.
Yeah, whatever it is. And, you know, my brother
owns a, yoga studio. Yes.
And he does recovery yoga.
I think it's Tuesdays, but it's.
And where's Ribbon's wing? Where's his business?
And Branford, Connecticut. Movie theater.
Yes, I do, right by the dance studio up in the second floor.
Yeah, but anyway, his saying.
And that is, everybody's recovering from something.
Just like. Are we all. Yeah.
Are we all?
So that meeting that he has is not about
alcoholics, drunks, it's about overeaters.
It's about, you know, people who don't, you know, Michael Hall.
Yeah.
You know, so it's just not about, you know, it could be we're all recovering.
Well, we sure are.
So he that.
And by the way, my brother sounded some credible.
Incredible.
He goes to inner city schools.
I love the way you talk about your brother.
I love that he really is.
He's my mentor. He.
You know, honestly, I don't if if it wasn't for him on
if I'd be around man.
And honestly at in 1997 I met him at Lenny's and I had cellulitis on my legs.
I shoot on my legs
and even he said, man, you're going to, you know, you're going to die, you know?
But he was a great power of example and is still is.
Yeah. He lives in now. Tell me about the mediums.
How did you get the name of the mediums?
It's funny, was.
No, you know, this this homelessness.
It haunts us because everyone thinks the medium is old.
And you're a and you're a duo. You're a duo.
Duo, right.
I thought it has
something to do with that has nothing to do with that. Wow.
Some people, I mean they go like, oh, you got to get a read our mind.
To do with that, we started out
in, 2001 as the happy medium well.
And you're like, oh, I hate that. Right.
And then I know myself or my partner Tom says, how about the mediums?
That was it. Yeah.
And then we got popular so we couldn't change it.
Wow. Yeah, yeah. What other names did you think about?
Oh, we had, we had one was called The Resentments.
The resentments.
Not not the happy resentments.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, it's not going to be the end.
Now we're we're, we're in a great, great place, so it's nice.
It's nice. Yeah. Yeah.
What? Music really helps you.
Music is everything to me.
Yeah. Music. Everything.
You write your music, I we do.
Tom and I, wrote a couple songs.
Unfortunately, in this music business,
people don't want to hear a lot of regionals.
And it's sad. Yeah.
Especially when you play clubs or restaurants. They want.
They want covers.
Or are these the owners of the restaurant prefer covers?
Stars.
They they don't want to hear their new music.
Yeah. It's really it's really tough. It's really tough.
So, you know we're going to incorporate I would love to do one more CD
of originals with Tom, my partner, and I'm sure that'll happen, but,
it's really tough, Joyce, to play originals all night long.
You know, I could stick maybe one in here and there, you know,
because people want familiar.
Well, we're wired for familiarity.
Even in the radio biz where I am, if we do play something new and unfamiliar,
we have to surround it with familiar songs on both sides.
It has to be sandwiched in between because you have to usher people into it
or you've lost them.
Hear it like a few times, right?
Yeah.
And the other thing is, is what we do with the duo.
And the duo is 80% of of our shows.
You know,
we're we
realize that we're background music, like, you know, just like you
DJ I mean, yeah, you do parties at weddings, which that's the theme.
But us, we're playing in restaurants and stuff and we're background music.
Yeah. We're not too loud.
You know, we try to put, we know hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
of, songs, which I think separates us from a lot of you always.
Sure.
You know, I think maybe 580 songs. Wow.
But we realize what our job is, and that's background music.
You know, we don't have egos.
If someone tells us. Yep.
And I think that's why we're really successful.
You know, I think that's so key.
You keep your ego at the door.
I think that's so cool.
I've learned that the DJ business, too. It's not about me.
It's about the people in front of me. Somebody comes up.
Can you please turn the music down? Absolutely.
Whatever. And you're right.
That's so, so cool to do that.
And I and I know people who not to mention names, but,
you know, they do have a bit of an ego when they get insulted.
Oh yeah.
And I think that's why, you know, you can't you
you can't be insulted or offended unless you choose to be right.
Yeah. That's absolutely right. Not true.
You really can't be. All I want to know.
Do you do a nod to your dad by playing Beatles music?
Mike. Yeah, I think my dad. Every time you play a Beatles song.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, my dad loved music, so, Yeah, Beatles to me is my dad.
Yeah, yeah, I play when we play on my like.
I'm a very emotional.
Yeah.
My life's one of my all time favorite songs by them.
Yeah.
There were times I'll even tear up when I'm playing.
Is I'm just like that.
And I think a lot of people who hear me go, especially who follow us, going,
you know, you could kind of hear the Katy, your voice.
You sing Run by Gertie. Now. Now what?
What's, I'm a huge Simon and Garfunkel van, huge fan.
I mean, I virtually like all their songs.
Which ones do you do?
You do the. We do the boxer. Yeah.
Sound of silence.
Robinson.
Yeah, we flirted with Sound of Silence. Yeah.
Tom is one of those gifted musicians where
if someone comes up and asks for a song and he doesn't know what,
he could literally think about it for about a minute and a half.
Wow, what a gift.
What a gift.
I'm not saying every song on earth, right? Right.
But if he maybe heard it or whatever, you know, he could try to figure it out.
That's what's so special about what he does. Wow.
And I'm the wedding singer.
I pretty much know
that's a great movie.
Adam Sandler, the wedding singer.
I love that movie.
Wow. Yeah. But, it's it's a nice it's nice.
And, you know, as you know,
it's, you know,
deejaying and weddings and stuff like that for us as a duo.
We started out in restaurants
and bars and for a musician, I'm being honest with you.
And it's such a thorn in my side
because it hasn't changed in 50 years.
I musicians who have been playing out since the 80s who made the same pay
is today. Yeah.
And that's so sad.
And that is that doesn't happen as an electrician.
It doesn't happen as a plumber for some reason.
Musicians for like a second class. Yeah.
And it's so sad.
Tom and I started about eight years ago.
We met and we said, listen, we know we're really good at.
So let's triple our prices.
Let's start going into country clubs trying to get in some corporate stuff.
Big thing is private party, you know, stuff like that
where the pay is literally quadruple, right?
More than you would get in a bar. Sure.
And that's why it became lucrative for us,
because a lot of musicians play out and they're making love.
And so sad.
I mean, I know a lot of a lot of my favorite music.
Music is smooth jazz, right?
And a lot of these guys are awesome musicians and they're making no money.
They're making zero.
There's no sales for smooth jazz music.
And I love it.
And I played it all my wedding receptions for dinner and cocktail hour.
And people love it.
But you're right about by but by pay I mean wedding receptions
is mainly 90% of what I do, and that's where the paychecks are.
But if you're doing some of those smaller things, restaurants can't afford us
and nor would they pay. Right.
And, and and that's not a knock on them because the restaurant business.
Absolutely.
They have very, very little room for profit.
These four restaurants like grocery stores, same thing.
Yep. I think that because we're a little bit established
and they get to kind of take a look at us and know what we do,
and we have a wide variety of stuff that we kind of sell ourselves.
Now. Yep.
That took a very long time to get.
Yeah, I mean, I can remember 25 years ago coming home from a gig in Enfield,
literally crying, going, like, what are we doing?
Yeah, yeah. You know, you're not doing anything wrong.
Nothing. We're weren't doing nothing wrong.
But that takes a long time to get to.
You know, I were very,
very lucky that, you know, people are identifying it, but it's now.
Well, Frank, let me ask you this.
How can people get in contact with you?
Our website is the medium. Yeah, yeah.
We are on TikTok.
I think it's the medium stocked Facebook all over the place.
The medium? Yeah. That. Yeah, yeah.
And I think a lot of people who are watching right now
may want to get in contact with you,
maybe for a little bit of counseling or chat,
because I know you love to serve and help other people
rob people battling addictions right now that you can help.
And I just love that you want to be a server.
You're all about serving. That's how I keep this gift.
Yeah, and I think service for me is is everything, you know? Yep.
And you know and God bless and God bless you.
God bless your family.
Thanks for all you do.
And I'm just so glad you've been able to overcome these obstacles.
And, we're we're just praying for you and we're cheering you on,
and we're cheering you on as well.
And thank you so much for having us on another edition of What's Good with China.
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Thanks for listening or watching or both.
And Joyce, always great teaming up with you, always with you, my joy and Frank.
I'm so glad we met at the coffee shop that day you came in.
You're an amazing guy.
And again, give my best to sell to your brother so much.
Till next time. Bye.
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